Energia Corporation Signs Billionth Contract For US Supply Of Rocket Engines

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The Russian Rocket and Space Corporation Energia named after S.P. Korolev signed a contract with the American company Orbital Sciences Corporation for the delivery to the USA of rocket engines manufactured by NPO Energomash (a subsidiary of RSC Energia). Information about this was published on the official website of the corporation. Against the background of rather complicated relations between the two countries, which are now burdened by economic sanctions, the signed international contract is an unconditional victory for common sense in the interests of both the United States and Russia. Russia will supply the USA with the X-Rum-181 engines, which are a modification of the RD-191 engine, which is used on the Angara launch vehicle family.

It is about supplying a large batch of rocket engines to the USA. The amount of the signed contract is about one billion dollars, while the subsidiary of RSC Energia will supply Orbital Sciences Corporation (OSC) with a large batch of 60 rocket engines. Americans will get the first RD-181 engines already in June 2015. Thus, the sanctions that were imposed by Washington against Moscow because of the situation in the Crimea and in the east of Ukraine have so far not affected the business of RSC Energia, which supplies rocket engines for various American projects. At the same time, calls for termination of this cooperation are periodically heard. This position in particular is held by the well-known American politician - Senator John McCain.

It is reported that in the creation of a new engine, the employees of Energia invested 3 of their labor. As a basis, Russian engineers took rocket engines designed for the most modern Russian launch vehicles of the Angara family. Their main task was to adapt this engine under the American Antares rocket. In this case, the design of the engine, it was decided to simplify not to the detriment of its quality. The new RD-181 engine can be compared to the Kalashnikov automatic: it is cheap, but it is also reliable and reliable. At the same time, the development and testing of the new rocket engine was carried out "at random" - with its own money, as a result, Energia did not fail, according to Vesti journalists. Even customers from the United States could not get past the Russian space news.

Energia Corporation Signs Billionth Contract For US Supply Of Rocket Engines


Vladimir Solntsev, President of RSC Energia, said: “When American engineers first saw our new engine alive, they fell in love with it. Do not fall in love with RD-181 impossible. This is a true work of art. The engine can be compared to a work of art, it must be beautiful. Ugly designs cannot work efficiently, reliably. " Also, Vladimir Solntsev stressed that there is no place to buy a similar engine in the world today.

The outcome of the negotiations between the Khimki NPO Energomash (a subsidiary of RSC Energia) and the American OSC OSC became a contract for the delivery of rocket engines to the US 60. In addition to the engines, the contract involves additional items - flight training, equipment installation and testing already in the entire complex. This means that without Russian engineers at Cape Canaveral in the near future just will not do. Vladimir Solntsev noted that in the work style of RSC Energia, quite friendly and good relations developed with the partners from the United States. Without these relationships, it is difficult to produce such complex products that are so technically advanced. Currently, at the company level, there is complete mutual understanding. This applies to designers, engineers, financiers, all of them for the preparation of this contract worked as a team.

The first two rocket engines RD-181 American customer can get in the summer 2015 year. A total of three options were signed, each for 20 engines. At 20 engines now there is a firm contract, for its implementation in RSC Energia has already begun. The signed contract for 60 engines allows Russian companies to work with work for the decade ahead. At the same time, the proceeds from the contract are planned to be spent on the development of domestic production. Of course, they will go to the modernization and development of new rocket engines.



After the explosion, which occurred on the Antares launch vehicle at the end of October 2014, in the United States, there were calls at the legislative level to ban the supply of components from the Russian Federation. Allegedly, then the cause of the accident were just Russian-made engines. But in fact, AJ-26 is an upgraded version of the still Soviet rocket engine NK-33, which was made by a Ukrainian enterprise. Now, the first stage of the Antares launch vehicles manufactured by Orbital Sciences will be based on RD-181 engines. Prior to that, they were equipped with AJ-26 rocket engines, built on the basis of the Soviet NK-33. At the same time, Russian engine models managed to establish themselves as one of the most reliable on the planet. It is not by chance that Washington brings its most expensive satellites into Earth orbit using Atlas-5 launch vehicles, on which Russian RD-180s are based.

Such excellent statistics today, few can boast: 60 trouble-free launches carried out in a row. Therefore, no matter how much the United States Senate raised questions about trying to break cooperation with the Russian Federation, at least in the space industry, US companies are not ready to abandon important Russian partners, at least for now. When the contract for the supply of RD-181 rocket engines was being prepared, the Russians and their American colleagues had time to discuss joint projects on the operation of the ISS and deep space exploration. Today, both in Russia and in the USA, they are well aware that the evolution of the knowledge of outer space cannot be stopped. Political games of this evolution are not a hindrance.

It is worth noting that individual US senators can demand anything. However, to create its own rocket engine, which would be similar to the Russian RD-181, the United States would need about 10 years and about 3 billion dollars. According to Solntsev, the creation of such an analog would take from 7 to 10 years. He noted that he had no doubt that the Americans would be able to create such an analogue, only the question arises, why is this necessary? He also noted that the output at the output may not be as straightforward as we would like. Stressing that no one has yet canceled or killed international cooperation.



The RD-181 rocket engine was created specifically for use on the Antares launch vehicle (ANTARES), the use of this engine will allow to deliver to the ISS, as well as low near-earth orbits, significantly more payload. This is a single-chamber liquid-propellant rocket engine with oxidizing gas afterburning. In the production of engines RD-181 apply only the most modern materials, design and technical solutions. Due to this, it was possible to increase the power engineering of the RD-181 (thrust - 186 tons). The engine is a modernization of the RD-191 (the first development engine was assembled in May 2001 of the year), which ensured a successful flight to the Angara launch vehicle in the summer of 2014, and was also installed on the Angara-A5 PH, which made a successful flight with Plesetsk Cosmodrome last December.

It is reported that the billion-dollar contract for the supply of engines signed with the American side implies their design support - conducting fire tests, their installation, as well as flight training and other actions. All this enables NPO Energomash to further develop, modernize production equipment, and also to motivate the enterprise’s workforce to create and implement all promising new projects in the field of rocket engine building.


According to RSC Energia president Vladimir Solntsev, today the corporation produces a whole line of rocket engines based on a single technological principle, that is, they can use almost any launcher: from ultra-light rockets to super-heavy ones. Statistics is a stubborn thing, in this regard, our engines today demonstrate 100% reliability in operation. In 2014, almost half of all space launches in the world were carried out using rocket engines, which are produced by the Russian NPO Energomash. 3 worked in the corporation on the last billionth contract with the USA and we are pleased that our American colleagues share our principles: in today's reality, along with competitive price and product quality, the reliability of the supplier itself also comes to the fore.



Solntsev also noted the successful cooperation with the Americans on RD-180 engines. Russian engineers specially adapted this engine for the American Atlas rocket. According to him, over the past two years, the Russian company has fully fulfilled the contract with the United Launch Alliance, which provided for the adaptation of the RD-180 engine for manned United States programs. According to Solntsev, with the Russian engine Atlas-5 can now find a new history, get a new face.

At the same time, the United States passed a law on military appropriations for the 2015 fiscal year, which includes an amendment from Republican Senator John McCain. This amendment establishes a ban on the further acquisition of RD-180 engines for Atlas-5 missiles, but this is only a matter of military loads. The fact is that the Atlas launch vehicle puts into orbit not only civil satellites, but also military satellites. Against this background, many lawmakers today argue that the interests of US national security are dependent on Russian technology. At the same time, the adopted law provides for the allocation of 220 million dollars for the creation of an American replacement for the Russian RD-180. The United States Air Force, which is responsible for conducting space launches, proposes to solve this problem in 5 years. At the same time, at the Pentagon they openly say that they have no idea how to use the allocated funds - it is advisable to develop a new engine only for a certain launch vehicle.

At the same time, the procurement of RD-180 for the implementation of non-military programs will continue. Before 2018, Russia must supply the USA with another 24 engine, this contract, also close to one billion dollars, continues to be executed. At the same time, representatives of RSC Energia are currently discussing an increase in the volume of this contract with the United Launch Alliance. The American side is additionally offered another 30 RD-180 engines. And the conclusion of RSC Energia of a new contract for the supply of 60 RD-181 engines shows that the United States is confident in Russia as a reliable partner and rely on domestic technologies.



Participants of the transaction

RSC Energia is the leading Russian enterprise in the rocket and space industry, the parent organization responsible for manned space systems. Energia works on the development of automatic space and rocket systems (launch vehicles and interorbital transportation), as well as a variety of high-tech systems for use in non-space fields. Corporation since August 2014, headed by V. L. Solntsev.

NPO Energomash, named after Academician V.P. Glushko, is a Russian enterprise, which is currently the leading designer and manufacturer of liquid-propellant rocket engines - liquid rocket engines. The company was founded in 1929. The main products of Energomash are engines designed for lower rocket stages.

Orbital Sciences Corporation (OSC) is an American manufacturer of space products that specializes in the production of launch vehicles and spacecraft. The company is actively involved in the provision of international launch services for missiles. In total, more 560 launch vehicles were manufactured on OSC, and 174 of various satellites were created. OSC currently occupies 60% of the small launch vehicle market, 55% of the small communications satellite market and 40% of the interceptor missile market. A new stage for this American company was the work on the creation of the unmanned spacecraft Signus, which is one of two private supply spacecraft being created as part of the NASA Commercial Orbital Transportation program. The goal of the program is to deliver goods to the ISS after the end of the Space Shuttle program. Signus launches will be carried out with the help of the Antares launch vehicle.

Information sources:
http://tass.ru/kosmos/1702392
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2279376#
http://ria.ru/space/20150116/1042791944.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/rolling_news/2015/01/150116_rn_russia_usa_rocket_engines
http://www.energia.ru/ru/news/news-2015/news_01-16.html (РКК «Энергия»)
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  1. +19
    19 January 2015 06: 29
    Payment is only in rubles !!
    1. +6
      19 January 2015 06: 42
      Quote: BIMMER
      Payment is only in rubles !!

      Of course, in American :-)
      1. +2
        19 January 2015 17: 01
        Did the government at least keep something right? What are the sanctions of Russia against Sshay?
        1. +1
          20 January 2015 02: 25
          this contract once again underscores the hypocrisy of the United States. business is business. and all their politics is business. it's in their blood. nothing but money. sanctions, and those with the wrong hands - Europe suffers, and the parties to cooperation that have been beneficial to them are preserved. There are many examples, including this contract for the purchase of engines.
          the little article, by the way, turned out to be some kind of major one. why rejoice? what they are using us? they get technology "for free", and yet they do not consider us human. So this contract is good, in part, there is a lever of pressure ... the political situation has changed, and a moratorium on the execution of the contract can be imposed. but I would not have concluded it at all. let their budget be spent on engine development. we benefit more from this than from the sale of our technologies and developments.
          and no hypocrisy!
          1. +1
            20 January 2015 03: 36
            How can a contract for 1 billion non-railroad cars of Russia? Everything is clearly spelled out in the article - "they allocated 220 million, but they do not know how to spend - because everything suits Russian engines." Plus, our scientists are poking around in their technique - pre-flight preparation - we know what they fly ... The contract is more of a plus for us. And what do you suggest - "prohibit, cancel, etc." Believe me, not only fools live in the USA - well, not in 5 years, so in 10 they will definitely fly on their engines and maybe even better than ours - so, for me, let them fly on ours. And there you look and the chip can be installed with GLONASS navigation and track the trajectories of the satellite output - also a useful thing ...
          2. 0
            20 January 2015 19: 37
            Well, no one will supply the technology for creating new rocket engines to anyone, we won’t slurp cabbage too, and we’ll get a ready engine to assemble and assemble our own, otherwise we would have collected equivalent Mercedeses.
          3. +1
            23 January 2015 22: 02
            Quote: HitMaster
            this contract once again underscores the hypocrisy of the United States. business is business. and all their politics is business. it's in their blood. nothing but money. sanctions, and those with the wrong hands - Europe suffers, and the parties to cooperation that have been beneficial to them are preserved. There are many examples, including this contract for the purchase of engines.

            ------------------------
            The sanctioned Russian enterprises receive new contracts, and the unauthorized Ukrainian Yuzhmash plunges into the abyss of bankruptcy ... Such is the dialectic ...
    2. +1
      19 January 2015 22: 12
      Quote: BIMMER
      Payment is only in rubles !!

      Rubles in rubles, and it would be better to agree on the payment of our engines so necessary for the Americans, in the light of difficult international relations - GOLD!
      1. -2
        20 January 2015 02: 41
        Will Russia also give gold currency debts of 700 with a hook of lards?
        1. 0
          20 January 2015 11: 12
          Quote: ibnvladimir
          Will Russia also give gold currency debts of 700 with a hook of lards?

          What do you think they won’t take in gold? And where suddenly 700, like 130 was. You are an agent and collaborator, shoot a comrade. laughing
  2. +11
    19 January 2015 06: 32
    Business is business! Dulu would show America with butter, but no time yet!
    And with payment in rubles, the idea is not bad!
    1. +1
      19 January 2015 09: 38
      Set a time when is it time?
    2. +3
      19 January 2015 12: 41
      Business is business

      Or maybe we’ll sell the country right away? And that business is business, everything must be earned. How i hate you businessmen making money on everything: on drugs, on spice, on child prostitution ...
      1. +2
        19 January 2015 16: 09
        Quote: Gardamir
        How do I hate you businessmen making money on everything: on drugs, on spice, on child prostitution ...


        On the one hand, you can understand of course - I want mattresses to put a large space pile. But firstly, a comparison of engines with prostitution is not very correct (minimum). And secondly (I’m not a businessman) I think they should take into account that these engines are only bought by the USA, i.e. loss of contract is the loss of an enterprise and people on the street. A lot of minuses. A lot of.
      2. +1
        19 January 2015 18: 37
        Quote: Gardamir
        Or maybe we’ll sell the country right away?

        Well, the new privatization plan leads to this.
      3. 0
        20 January 2015 11: 22
        Quote: Gardamir
        Or maybe we’ll sell the country right away? And that business is business, everything must be earned. How do I hate you businessmen making money on everything: on drugs, on spice, on child prostitution ...

        Right now I see a group of designers who are told, and that's it, don’t get your 2% of the profit, you can go and suffer further. And you won’t buy new equipment, break off with a brand new signature analyzer for $ 100k, and you won’t see a new oscilloscope for 250k, but the Americans will not fly into space, and in five years they will build the same engine. And you will manually count and it is not clear what to measure.
  3. +15
    19 January 2015 06: 57
    The contract itself is politically destructive. It shows how hypocritical the Western sanctions are. When everyone is not allowed, but something is very necessary, then - you can. The cost of the contract, taking into account the devaluation of the ruble and the increase in serial production, and as a result of the decrease in the production price, is simply "cosmic". If the funds go to the further development of our space, we can only applaud our specialists and merchants.
    1. +2
      19 January 2015 07: 26
      Quote: D-Master
      The contract itself has destructive political power. It shows how hypocritical Western sanctions are. When everyone is not allowed, but something is very necessary then it is possible.

      To whom does it show? Yes, all in the West do not care about any shows.
      1. +1
        19 January 2015 13: 40
        DO NOT spit in the west. They can mine that they are one and each calculates its own profit. And if the United States can buy engines, then you can try to give back to the Frogs and Mistral. There is no monolith and any such news shakes it even more.
    2. 0
      19 January 2015 18: 11
      Approximately 17 (hardly the exact price of the contract is given) million green per engine - "space price"? Yes it is, damn it, a penny ...
  4. +10
    19 January 2015 07: 10
    And I wouldn’t give a damn about the money! Hell to them with butter! Let them spend time and money on developing their engine! To be honest, it takes anger !!!
    1. +18
      19 January 2015 07: 38
      But we must act like the French, take the money and declare it, we are ready to give it to you, but only after changing our position on the sanctions, and we must do it now that they twitched before the first summer delivery
    2. +3
      19 January 2015 10: 54
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And I wouldn’t give a damn about the money! Hell to them with butter! Let them spend time and money on developing their engine! To be honest, it takes anger !!!


      It feels like our kapitalnyugi and mother will sell their mother for money !!!
    3. 0
      19 January 2015 12: 03
      They will spend money and print new ones. And our space and rocket sector will not grow without money. And in November, the Americans already understood how to get our hands on our missiles. So, the sanctions for watermelon of Baku rubles have already been overcome. But to stop there is not worth it. It is necessary for the Americans to supply not the engines, but the entire rocket. Somewhere dumping, somewhere a bribe to whom it is necessary to give, somewhere barter to offer.
      R.S. About my pens in our missiles, it's me about Yuzhmash - well done.
      1. 0
        20 January 2015 11: 11
        Yes, the question is not about money, but in the Amer’s space program, mine is the most load-bearing rocket, and missile launches are planned for months and years ahead, and the possibility of disrupting such launches will bring losses to Amer tens of times higher than the amount of the contract. Plus, Americans lose their ability to display military satellites
  5. +8
    19 January 2015 07: 15
    Quote: Magic Archer
    And I wouldn’t give a damn about the money! Hell to them with butter! Let them spend time and money on developing their engine! To be honest, it takes anger !!!


    The proceeds will go to the development and construction of new rockets with us. And just take the same 60 billion rubles from the budget ... (the situation is not the same, let them go to the military budget) + jobs and construction experience. More pros than cons.
    1. +3
      19 January 2015 07: 22
      Quote: BIMMER
      The proceeds will go to the development and construction of new rockets with us. And just take the same 60 billion rubles from the budget ... (the situation is not the same, let them go to the military budget) + jobs and construction experience. More pros than cons.

      Yes, yes, yes. There is nowhere to take more money from. Less Ukrainians would be fed, but debts to all countries were written off.

      And here's another topic:
      Central Bank: Capital outflow from Russia in 2014 increased 2,5 times
      http://www.vedomosti.ru/finance/news/38344981/cb-ottok-kapitala-iz-rossii-v-2014
      -g-vyros-v-25-raza
    2. 0
      19 January 2015 09: 40
      The proceeds will go to the development and construction of new rockets with us.
      That's it I say it was necessary in 1941-45 to cooperate with Hitler.
  6. +3
    19 January 2015 07: 19
    A bolt would be for Americans with large threads, not engines. The government did not work out this issue well ... They better sell it to the Chinese and Indians, and the Americans suck on the high pressure hose.
    1. +1
      19 January 2015 07: 25
      Quote: noncombant
      The government did not work out this issue well.

      On the contrary, good. Everything is done in the spirit of the past 25 years. The course is unchanged.
  7. +3
    19 January 2015 07: 23
    The main thing is not to stand still and to develop even more successful engines of a new generation for the proceeds. For yourself.
  8. +3
    19 January 2015 07: 44
    Want to launch their satellites?
    we ourselves can run them. let them pay.
    1. 0
      19 January 2015 07: 51
      Quote: gozmosZh
      Want to launch their satellites?
      we ourselves can run them. let them pay.

      They have something to run, do not worry ...
    2. +2
      19 January 2015 14: 22
      Quote: gozmosZh
      Want to launch their satellites?
      we ourselves can run them. let them pay.

      1. Launch
      In total for 6 years (2004-201O):
      Russia - 166 successful, 8 unsuccessful
      USA - 102 successful, 5 unsuccessful




      2: US Department of Khrunichev Center - ILS (International Launch Services) - Plans halve the number of starts launch vehicles "Proton".
      ILS customers: Motorola, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Mitsubishi Electric Corp., Space Systems / Loral, Alkatel Space
      Reason:
      decrease in demand for Russian-made missiles in the USA: heavy and dear "Protons" force out compact and cheap carriers of other competitors, the main ones being the French Ariane 5 and the private American Falcon 9.

      3. Not EVERYTHING can be launched from us:
      -tilt of the orbit
      - military satellites will not allow anyone to import into the Russian Federation
      - Launching from us, any spacecraft, Americans FULLY give us data on the parameters of the orbit and trajectory, the exact location, telemetry is duplicated.

      4. Launches of the launch vehicle is a hi-tech (it’s not stupid to sell oil / gas / metal), it’s the whole connection of the industry. NOBODY WILL GIVE THEM, everyone tries themselves. Energy launch from the US is more profitable than from us
      1. 0
        19 January 2015 18: 49
        military satellites will not allow anyone to import into the Russian Federation
        Come on.
        launching from us, any spacecraft, the Americans FULLY give us data on the parameters of the orbit and trajectory, the exact location
        A radar like "Voronezh" why?
  9. +5
    19 January 2015 07: 48
    It did not go to repeat itself, but again 25 ...
    There is no NASA dependency on our rocket engines. There is a dependence of some companies that are not able to independently develop a rocket engine, for example, SpaceX. Orbital Sciences Corporation (OSC) is generally known for trying to do something with minimal effort. Let's take the ANTARES rocket, this is a compilation of Russian engines and parts from decommissioned ICBMs Peacekeeper ... Roughly speaking, OSC wants to eat fish too ... and not to choke on a bone .. until it works ...
    What would happen if Russia refused to sell the OSC of its RD-181? It's okay, one competitor for SpaceX and the United Launch Alliance would be less. The United Launch Alliance, of course, also depends on the RD-181, for Atlas-5 is a very successful rocket, but in addition to Atlas-5 it has Delta-4 in three configurations, light / medium / heavy ...
    Therefore, gentlemen, patriots, they have something to fly on:


    1. 0
      19 January 2015 10: 51
      Quote: Nayhas
      Therefore, gentlemen, patriots, they have something to fly

      only for some reason, the states still want Russian engines, which are not subject to sanctions request
      1. +2
        19 January 2015 14: 26
        Quote: 0255
        only for some reason, the states still want Russian engines, which are not subject to sanctions

        Adam Smith's World of Money
        "in every civilized society" omnipotent and inevitable economic laws operate, "
        More profitable? YES.
        Would produce RD-181 (the same reliable and cheap) in Iran or the DPRK, the United States, without a twinge of conscience, would buy them
      2. 0
        19 January 2015 16: 57
        Quote: 0255
        only for some reason, the states still want Russian engines, which are not subject to sanctions

        What kind of Americans? For example, the Americans from SpaceX and Aerojet Rocketdyne really do not want to. The United Launch Alliance (ULA) in the years of friendship between the Russian Federation and the USA created an excellent rocket for our RD-180 which was much cheaper with excellent characteristics, however, despite this, the ULA did not rely on one Atlas-5 and created Delta-4 in variants light / medium / heavy which flies on the Aerojet Rocketdyne RS-68 engine.
        Well, the global project of the super-heavy launch vehicle Space Launch System, which is the result of a joint collaboration between NASA, Boeing, and Lockheed-Martin, also has their own RS-25 engines there ...
    2. +3
      19 January 2015 14: 37
      Quote: Nayhas
      Therefore, gentlemen, patriots, they have something to fly on:

      Of course.
      But the most stubborn "patriot" does not understand this

      What to do education JOURNALIST makes itself felt, hopes:

      Naive promised (GPS disconnected?)

      1.In the US aerospace industry, the number of employees 3 timesthan in Western Europe.
      Only (!) Southern California has the aerospace and space industry (ARKP) in which it is engaged directly about 135 thousand people, it produces about 1 / 4 of all aircraft and almost half of the country's rocket technology.
      There are no Boeing factories in SK; they are in Seattle.
      2. Bell Bell Aircraft Corp. Boeing The Boeing Company Boeing Convair Convair Douglas Douglas Aircraft Co. DC Fairchild Fairchild Hiller Corp. GD General Dynamics Corp. Grumman Grumman Aerospace Corp. Hughes Hughes Aircraft Co. Lockheed Lockheed Aircraft Co.L LTV LTV Aerospace Corp. (Ling-Temco-Vought) MD McDonnell Douglas Corp. MD NAA North American Aviation Inc. NA Nortrop Nortrop Corp. Republic Republic Aviation Corp. Rockwell Rockwell International Corp.
      3. Here are the data that speak for themselves:


      4. Financing, there is nothing to discuss here ..
      1. 0
        20 January 2015 09: 57
        What amusing circles on the map laughing laughing I hope something is aimed there.
  10. +7
    19 January 2015 07: 59
    I have no words, only interjections, and if you recall uranium, titanium, then only out of respect for the requirements can not be expressed. In short there is a one-goal game. And so it will be until they sell the latter. As far as I remember, the USA does not sell high-tech products to us a long time ago. I'd like to ask the appropriate comrades that you had a difficult childhood, lack of vitamins?
  11. +3
    19 January 2015 08: 02
    Well, yes, they have us, but we are getting stronger! Hucksters are shameful!
  12. +2
    19 January 2015 08: 22
    They have us, but we are still selling them
  13. +2
    19 January 2015 08: 27
    it will be fun when it turns out that the Ukraine project is implemented by Russia and the USA, and Europe will be in the ass. With its sanctions, without Ukraine, without gas, with default, it will work for superpowers. Nonsense of course. The Americans, in principle, cannot have friends. They have megalomania.
  14. +1
    19 January 2015 09: 43
    This is our likely opponent. And partnering with an adversary is a crime. We now need not money, but technology. It would be possible to exchange engines for technology. But alas, we are not a nation-state, but a market-liberal one.
  15. +1
    19 January 2015 09: 59
    In addition to the written:
    With the help of RD-180 engines, the Americans launch a super secret Boeing X-37 into space, causing a lot of controversy around the world, and especially among Russian patriots who see it as a kind of space fighter-bomber ready at any time to destroy the Russian Strategic Missile Forces with a hypersonic missile or "eat "all satellites ...


    1. 0
      20 January 2015 04: 49
      As far as I know, the contract provides for the launch of ONLY civilian satellites.
  16. +3
    19 January 2015 10: 39
    And the sale prices of these engines need to be increased significantly. If the Americans cannot do without them, then you can bargain.
    1. +1
      19 January 2015 12: 37
      Stop taking a bad example. In Russian, it is correct several times.
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  18. +5
    19 January 2015 10: 43
    Something I'm disappointed.
    They give us sanctions, they give us "Russia is the number one threat in the world", they "Russians shot down a Boeing", and we "guys, do we need engines? Hold on!"
    Comrades, how is that? It's a hard time, everyone should tighten their belts, but don't throw yourself on the bone that was thrown to the "dog"
    Sad somehow
  19. +1
    19 January 2015 10: 57
    Real iron for candy wrappers. Maybe gold or rubles, really.
    Can these engines be suitable not only for space rockets, but also for military ones?
    Or hardly? Who can say and enlighten?
    Doesn’t it turn out that Russia is arming the enemy with its technology and iron?
    They don’t sell anything like that to us!
    1. 0
      19 January 2015 11: 12
      For our engine builders, 65 billion rubles is a lot of money, and the United States has shown its insolvency in rocket engine building.
  20. 0
    19 January 2015 11: 08
    Americans, of course, are beautiful women, they have forbidden everyone to be friends with us, and they are buying our goods without hesitation.
  21. +1
    19 January 2015 11: 15
    The contract -NOAD WAS GOLD registered! not in the TOILET PAPER!
  22. 0
    19 January 2015 11: 46
    I hope the prepayment is registered in the contract. Or not?
    If there is no prepayment, then the Americans will receive the goods and will not pay a penny. Ragozin will tell you bravely about how Russia will go to court right now and sue billions of billions.
    And then everything will be blown away, as with the Mistrals.
  23. 0
    19 January 2015 11: 52
    this is certainly good! The main thing is that Energy engineers (and not so engineers))))) see with their own eyes that our engine will deliver into orbit. There is nothing wrong with doing business with the Americans — on the contrary, it’s a benefit. But the main thing is that the Americans do not try to deceive us by introducing dual-use and military devices on energy engines!
    And it turns out like in a joke: we sell them weapons from which they will shoot at us
  24. +2
    19 January 2015 13: 37
    Quote: Magic Archer
    And I wouldn’t give a damn about the money! Hell to them with butter! Let them spend time and money on developing their engine! To be honest, it takes anger !!!

    The money received under this contract allows our specialists to earn in this field so much that they do not have a desire to make the same engines in the USA. Therefore, it is better that "fuck it with butter" does not turn into "x ... we do well ..." (don't think bad :-)))))
  25. 0
    19 January 2015 13: 49
    As long as the USA has money, let them buy, maybe this is their last purchase in their "great" country.
  26. old_perisher
    +1
    19 January 2015 14: 05
    And why are you whining? The country lives on oil money, it is necessary to develop production for sale! Then do not sell high-tech products "there"! That's right: we don't sell technologies, but we sell a finished product.
  27. +1
    19 January 2015 14: 55
    Quote: Gardamir
    Or maybe we’ll sell the country right away? And that business is business, everything must be earned. How do I hate you businessmen making money on everything: on drugs, on spice, on child prostitution ...

    you don’t drop everything into one basket, dear. This contract for OUR space program is first and foremost necessary. This billion was taken from amerovskie corporations involved in the development of promising rocket engines, and given to us. Plus, additional jobs, salaries and pensions for employees. And also financing of our developments. Now the money from the treasury goes to the defense industry, to the fight against sanctions, to import substitution, and so on, and you think that at the same time there is enough money left for the space program? And what about spice and prostitution? What kind of heresy? about your need to withdraw from the contract for the supply of gas to China, for example, for the same reason ...
  28. 0
    19 January 2015 16: 07
    Americans are not trustworthy partners, if you take from them, then tear in three ways and money in advance, and then they still need to get them so that the stars come together
  29. +2
    19 January 2015 16: 13
    Uv. Comrades you horseradish understand ?! You are indignant that we are not selling anything but raw materials, then you are outraged by the sale of high-tech products in bulk! I understand that if it were the Chinese with an offer to buy three or five engines, just to copy them. But s, even though political ue ... ki, let them choke !!!
  30. 0
    19 January 2015 17: 17
    This is actually such a pain in the ass mattresses. And budget relief. It's the same money for the development of production. Our production. And not theirs. And not oil and gas, but the most that neither is high-tech, which no one in the world could!
    One can be proud of this, and play politics in politics.
  31. GDV
    +1
    19 January 2015 17: 32
    1 engine to sell for gold.
    2 do not forget that every engine sold is a nail in the lid of our coffin
    3 prototype of the orbital fighter-bomber by the "empire of good" has been tested and is ready for mass production - the countdown of the presentation of the ultimatum to the "empires of evil" has begun.
    4 urgently to revive the "Buran" program and all developments on orbital weapons, lack of funds? Start by disconnecting the US segment from the Mir station (this is not a joke), creating a platform for launching Yao, it will be cheaper than building an orbital fighter and will save time faster. Launch the platform and missiles separately, dock the bells and whistles with the "world", the station staff give up on servicemen who know how to handle a vigorous club. In other words, make an orbital cruiser out of an orbital station - there is a platform, upgrade it (attach necessary, disconnect unnecessary)
    5 and finally bring down the satellite, this will delay the inevitable by two to three years.
    6, the situation is as follows: whoever first launches Yao into space, that is, he will create an orbital weapon and will dictate his will to the rest. Columbus’s mistake is two decades ahead of us. It remains to pray to the Lord (this is serious)
  32. 0
    19 January 2015 18: 45
    Quote: GDV
    Launch the platform and missiles separately, dock the bells and whistles with the "world", the station staff give up on servicemen who know how to handle a vigorous club. In other words, make an orbital cruiser out of an orbital station

    Why do you think that was not done during the USSR, although there were opportunities?
  33. 0
    19 January 2015 19: 42
    Twenty-five again! The Americans got it. that without engines they are a pipe. And again, well, we are very "good" guys, here you have high technologies, fly, bomb us. Purely Russian madhouse. Beat us as much as you want, but we love you anyway. It is disgusting and ashamed of all Rogozins, Solntsevs After all, the bucks rule the world! Here's another confirmation.
  34. Second
    +1
    19 January 2015 21: 59
    Damn, I'm not surprised! For the Chinese people - lands, resources, weapons! They are like "friends" of ours now. But the Americans are our enemies! Vova fights against them. All troubles from these damned bastards. But to sell them rocketry is a must! We will reach it so soon that we will give and sell each of our enemies with a nuclear warhead.
    PS I always wrote that all the markets, that "America is our enemy" - is done so that the oligarchy sawed through all the state. Russia's reserves. Whom should they be afraid of? ..
  35. 0
    19 January 2015 23: 25
    Wouldn't it be more intelligent not to sell engines, disclosing technologies, but to launch American satellites into orbit on their rockets, under their own visual (and not only visual) control? It will be immediately clear whether it is a military satellite or not, otherwise it turns out that they impose sanctions on us, set conditions, which engines are needed and for what, and our vans agree to everything and are smiling. You need to know your own worth, especially in the current situation, where Russians are poisoned like wolves, "both adults and puppies", and, smoking a cigarette, cross-legged, thoughtfully condescending, looking down at the Amerovskoy amoeba, quietly say: "Well Well, we can try to help you with your satellites, so be it, we will put it into orbit, you will call us in a week, maybe that will work out. " So that the amoebas, ingratiating themselves, smile, and agree to everything.
  36. 0
    20 January 2015 17: 07
    And why shouldn't we sell the T 1941 and IL 34 to the Germans in 2? What a beautiful gesture of goodwill and the victory of common sense would be! Moreover, they also fell in love with these products very quickly. More precisely, with these products we began to love them very much and in different positions.