Dear British special forces returns home. Losses declared "unacceptable"

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Dear British special forces returns home. Losses declared "unacceptable"

The 173 servicemen of the elite 22 Regiment of the British Special Air Service (SAS) will return to their homeland from Libya in the coming days. The losses incurred by them during the military campaign were recognized by the British military as unacceptable. About this “Argumentam.ru” reported English military expert Peter Bainchley, citing sources in the SAS.
According to him, “the official loss figures are not disclosed. But, according to various sources, this is from 21 to 35 military personnel. ”
According to Bainchley, SAS suffered the greatest losses during the assault on Tripoli and when a helicopter was shot down on the border of Libya and Algeria.
The training and maintenance of one commando from this regiment, according to experts, costs up to 1 million pounds a year.
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  1. +4
    9 September 2011 12: 44
    1 million pounds a year .... "golden special forces"
    1. ballian
      +1
      10 September 2011 00: 08
      1. Who is "British military expert Peter Bainchley", referring to "sources in the SAS" - no one knows.

      I'll write now that "Vasya Tyutkin, a Russian military expert close to Kremlin sources, told the Pupkin.ru agency that there is a casemate in the star of the Spasskaya Tower, where a real patriot of the Country, Dimon Medvedkin, languishes, and his zombie double Khasan Magomedov controls the Power. "...

      The level of information in the article about SAS and about casemate is the same.

      2. Cho for the helicopter was shot down, whether it was shot down at all, and if so, then whoever sat in it is unknown to anyone, not even the nonexistent Banchley.

      3. "The training and maintenance of one special forces from this regiment, according to experts, costs up to 1 million pounds a year." - classics of the genre. Be sure to blurt out something credible at the end. Preferably with the number or color of the boots.

      Interesting arithmetic: 1 million pounds sterling x 400 SAS fighters (the average estimate of the number of adversaries in the "regiment") = 400 million. The military budget of Albion is about 35 billion. This includes the construction of ships (two aircraft carriers are being sculpted now), and American helicopters (14 pieces ordered nadys), and research and development, and testing, and new drones, and so on. Plus a huge military infrastructure. Plus maneuvers, trainings, games of "Zarnitsa". Plus dress-shoe-feed "non-elite" soldiers, officers, generals, admirals, military attachés, general staff, defense minister ... Plus maintain bases around the world, petrol-diesel fuel, repair-depreciation ... Plus spies, buy chewing gum for foreign traitors ... And here on SAS-clowns - almost half a billion out of 35 ... Petruha in his mind?

      * * *

      There was no serious SAS in Libya. There is no such information. Information about SAS instructors - slipped, yes. More from normal sources - no.
      1. ballian
        +2
        10 September 2011 00: 37
        Pay attention - 'this misinformation was launched, namely on the Russian-speaking young (2 years old) quickly promoted site Argumenty.ru, whose office is located in the very center of Moscow, from where it is distributed to English-language sources.
        1. +1
          10 September 2011 07: 01
          And what is minus? In fact, after all, the right person, painted on the noodle.
  2. raf
    +3
    9 September 2011 13: 55
    Yes, if measured in money, then the loss is really not acceptable! Is it worth the French 35% of Libyan oil such losses!
  3. +9
    9 September 2011 14: 28
    Well, the capitalists are stupid ... They would do it like ours, bring financing to a minimum for these specialists, and they themselves would buy equipment, and they would see new equipment on TV. And the loss would not care. Urgent need to send Serdyukov there to transfer experience
    1. makrus
      +1
      9 September 2011 14: 50
      Serdyukov did not bring the army to such a state, although the character is colorful. Today, whoever said anything, but the equipment went into the troops. Yes a little. But at least something, the process has begun. Remember about 5-6 years, or 10 years, what our army was like. Progress on the face.
      1. Mi
        Mi
        0
        9 September 2011 21: 38
        Do not be so naive. Before talking about progress, remember how much money was allocated and is allocated for the State Defense Order. Well, by no means comparable numbers with the number of supposedly new equipment entering the troops. Simply, if you do not supply anything to the troops, the scale of theft will be very noticeable.
      2. Mesniy
        +1
        10 September 2011 10: 32
        the equipment went off - and * to the point - in the army there are more hucksters than in the markets, they do all their business, for the rest - they don't give a shit - I know firsthand the situation in the 7 div Airborne
  4. +4
    9 September 2011 15: 05
    Who knew that they could shoot at special forces. This is when they shoot at someone, it’s good, but neither at them, nor sorry for the money they spent on them.
  5. +6
    9 September 2011 15: 12
    Well, now they shook off all shame and openly admit that the British soldiers fought in Libya. And what we got by scam is not bad.
    1. Mesniy
      0
      10 September 2011 10: 18
      Who recognizes what? News from the OBS news agency - "one grandma said"!
      And they got it if those who supported Mumera were there.
  6. Owl
    +2
    9 September 2011 15: 14
    Specialist units assignments suffer losses even in exercises, SAS soldiers and officers simply completed their task of organizing and sending "troops" of Gaddafi's opponents, but did not fulfill the task of destroying (capturing) the colonel.
  7. +4
    9 September 2011 15: 34
    Well, shave nipped, sorry a little.
  8. Archer
    +3
    9 September 2011 15: 55
    No matter what money is spent on training, military losses will always be there, especially when aviation destroys everything that moves and not the enemy
  9. svvaulsh
    +1
    9 September 2011 15: 57
    So they need to rejoice. Save from 21 to 35 lemons due to retirees.
    1. Mesniy
      -7
      10 September 2011 10: 19
      such garbage only in rashka rejoice
  10. hellbringer
    +1
    9 September 2011 16: 01
    What can I say - the victims of democracy, or rather the bones in its foundation.
    1. +1
      9 September 2011 16: 12
      And they died without showing their brave daring, some Algerian (maybe Russian-speaking) just shot down a helicopter
      1. Mesniy
        -4
        10 September 2011 10: 29
        this is how Internet tales originate
  11. Old Cat Basilio
    +1
    9 September 2011 16: 25
    Yes! After this article, Sir Winston must have rolled over in his grave! wink
    1. Mesniy
      -2
      10 September 2011 10: 20
      Well, by analogy, then the Soviet deputies should spin like a yule!
  12. Maximum
    +3
    9 September 2011 18: 48
    I’ll not take everything for granted)))) and these young ladies wanted to defeat the USSR war ????
    1. jamert
      +2
      9 September 2011 19: 11
      In Afghanistan, they trained Mujahideen pretty well. Underestimating enemies is the first step to defeat.
    2. Mesniy
      -5
      10 September 2011 10: 21
      But the USSR and without war died, an ear of clay feet ...
  13. jamert
    -2
    9 September 2011 19: 09
    This was reported to "Argumentam.ru" by an English military expert Peter Beinchley, with reference to sources in the SAS.

    So, to some incomprehensible "expert" sources in the secret service reported their losses in the territory where they should not be at all. At the same time, these very sources did not at all bother with the fact that such information compromises the service itself, the Ministry of Defense, and the entire cabinet and makes them vulnerable in the next elections. And all the site's inhabitants adamantly believe in the correctness of this "expert".

    The latest information: "Special Forces of the GRU lost 30 people in the territory of the Sultanate of Bahrain," said military expert Ivanov Peter, citing sources in the Ministry of Defense. Do we believe?
  14. +2
    9 September 2011 19: 20
    Condolences to the families of the victims, it’s interesting and how much they spend on our commandos, well, obviously not that much money No.
    1. +2
      9 September 2011 21: 09
      Quote: Cvetluy
      Condolences to the families of the victims, it’s interesting and how much they spend on our commandos, well, obviously not that much money

      Preparing a good specialist is very expensive, and so do ours! Yes, and they do not prepare them in two years! Therefore, as a rule, specialists are few and everyone’s loss is a blow to the country's defense.
  15. karnics
    +1
    9 September 2011 23: 52
    Taken from - http://stalin-ist.livejournal.com/
    There is a link to German military experts - http: //africanliberty.ivoire-blog.com/archive/2011/09/09/le-vrai-bilan-d ...

    A German military expert said in a closed meeting, citing reliable sources, that the loss of British intelligence in Libya is not 35 soldiers, as announced by the British Ministry of Defense.
    The numbers are higher and their accuracy is between 1 to 500 people. This is the main reason why the British government ordered its troops to leave Libya.
    Add to this, the death toll:
    - French forces between 200 and 500.
    - USA less than 200 people.
    - Qatar - more than 200 people.
    And these figures have not been announced in the media and are not even discussed (a well-known reception of the West from experience in Iraq and Afghanistan).
    But, obviously, Canada has the most losses. Dozens of missiles were launched by the Libyan army on the high seas on the ship Charlotte (Charlottetown). But the spokesman for the Canadian Department of Defense, Peter Mackay, said that there was rocket fire, but the ship received no damage. (probably a virtual ship).
    The German military expert said that the third week of September will be crucial for Muammar Gaddafi and his faithful forces, either victory or defeat, but so far Libya and Muammar Gaddafi have not been broken.
    He added that Germany would withdraw from the coalition against Libya in late September and, he added, NATO has been bombing Libyan territory for the last three weeks of September.
    All NATO member countries ridiculed France for its bombing of Libya, blindly killing civilians, as one of the biggest strategic mistakes. (Sarkozy will still have to answer, and they are preparing for the role of the scapegoat)
    PS There is also data from other sources - that the loss of Qatar - more than 700 people.
    1. ballian
      -4
      10 September 2011 00: 30
      Dear - where did you find the link to the "German experts" - your link leads to some African site of the Ivory Coast, and there are no more links there - only a complete hollow word you know how to filter garbage?
      Besides -
      1) The British Ministry of Defense has never even talked about ONE of his murdered (especially 35) - as you can see from this post - this is another mess.
      2) Judging by the link - the usual already delusional fantasies of Gaddafilov without any links to sources - the site is appropriate - .- you are in your mind - 2 thousand killed + respectively thousand 8 wounded - total 10 thousand British :)))))))

      3) Germany is not in any coalition against Libya - accordingly, it cannot leave, not to mention that if it was in the coalition, then it is idiocy to leave during the victory. I am amazed at how dreamers who wrote Lobuda about "thousands of those killed" - they don't know such elementary information - however, all the fuckers are already eating it.
      .
      4) Can you imagine - many NATO countries are participating in the bombing, and moreover, "they all make fun of France," and not their beloved ones :))) - Gentlemen of Africa are rudely composing.
      - ===============
      PS:
      The first comments on your karnics lobuda have already appeared:
      >>> Under the title of this post there is a link "Leaked classified information from German military experts." If you follow it, you will be taken to a French-language blog from the Ivory Coast. It contains a comment from a Latvian user Jekabpils, who notes that the information is very similar to that given at nstarikov.ru/blog. If you follow the link, Starikov will have a direct link to oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm - an article about the losses of the British special forces. But oko-planet does not consider this information its own, referring to news.argumenti.ru. Indeed, in "Argumenty.ru" there is such an article, and it refers to the British military expert Peter Bainchley, unknown to any search engine. Only Argumenty.ru knows such a person - that's all. There is, however, the author of scripts of war films, Peter Benchley, but he passed away in 2006.
      ... In general, as a result of the cycle of references, the unknown British military expert turned into "German military experts" in the plural.
      1. karnics
        +4
        10 September 2011 01: 03
        In light of the fact that the Western powers are waging a real information war and there is no reliable information about the war in Libya, everything is filtered, I threw information from the site "For Gaddafi" ...
        This information may very well be true, or do you believe that Tripoli took rabble in slippers?
        1. ballian
          -5
          10 September 2011 01: 27
          Well then, you noticed that my first comment is copy-paste from the same place - even in the audience that hangs out there, there are people who understand that information needs to be filtered.
          Your link to the Ivory Coast does not lead anywhere and does not refer to anyone, and there is simply a solid, clumsily written allegation.
          Again - it was noticed in the same place - on "For Gaddafi".
          .
          PS: About "rabble in slippers" - here is a photo of the Chadian rebels - take a close look at their shoes :))
          http://www.voenoboz.ru/index.php?view=article&id=104
          Oddly enough, this "rabble" defeated the Libyan Expeditionary Army in 1987 in Chad.
          "Rabble", as you say, by the middle of July, approached Tripoli at a distance of 100 km. - The "mighty" Libyan army for all the months never left the defense, but only retreated - the fall of Tripoli was a matter of time.
          PS When the Americans captured Baghdad without a fight, for some reason no one said that it was with the help of aliens - for some reason it is believed that the Libyan army was supposed to arrange a second "Stalingrad" in Tripoli.
          1. makrus
            +3
            10 September 2011 14: 50
            Quote: ballian
            "Rabble", as you say, by the middle of July, approached Tripoli at a distance of 100 km. - The "mighty" Libyan army for all the months never left the defense, but only retreated - the fall of Tripoli was a matter of time.
            wink
            With the support of NATO aviation, this is not surprising. You in your comments very one-sidedly approach the discussion of the topic, ignoring well-known facts.
            1. ballian
              -2
              10 September 2011 19: 40
              I just do not belong to those who neglect the role of NATO aviation. 30 - 40 sorties per day on ground targets - this is a lot.
        2. Mesniy
          -7
          10 September 2011 10: 25
          well, such a "rabble in slippers" successfully resisted the Soviet army in Afghanistan and drove the Russian army out of Chechnya into the first Chechen
    2. Mesniy
      -5
      10 September 2011 10: 22
      why not tens of thousands? shallow emelya ....
  16. mitrich
    +5
    10 September 2011 00: 34
    I carefully read the KARNICS commentary and recalled the following story:
    7-8 years ago in the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda-Ural" on the first page and the main spread there was a report about a young guy who left for the USA. His mother, while he was serving in the Russian army (I do not remember where), married an Amer, and his son, having demobilized, moved there. There he did not find a decent job for himself, so he enlisted in the American army, which was sent as a mechanic-driver of the Abrams tank to Iraq. In Iraq, a tank was hit, the guy was killed. Further, the most interesting thing in terms of this comment: the mother of this guy and his grandmother, who lives in E-burg, through lawyers, entered into correspondence with the US Department of Defense about the different preferences and insurance payments there, to which they were politely replied that your son and grandson was not a US citizen, is not included in the list of US servicemen killed in Iraq, so you can roll wherever you want ...
    Such is the story, so anything is possible according to the above comment.
    1. Mesniy
      -4
      10 September 2011 10: 28
      Well, the Komsomol truth and loves to write about UFOs, and about bearded women, and that Lenin is in the mausoleum tossing and turning, etc. and the rest - Komsomol enthusiasm, - you know ....
    2. makrus
      +2
      10 September 2011 15: 05
      Mitrich to the point. On the news they showed a rebel who in plain English explained what he was fighting for (democracy, etc.). When asked where he learned to speak English so much, he replied that he was a university student in the USA and had recently received a green card. wink I understand that this issue has been put on stream. Recruiting students is a common thing for special services. The revolution in Libya is as popular as the "Rose Revolution" in Georgia or the "Orange Revolution" in Ukraine.
  17. +3
    10 September 2011 07: 08
    Yes, the truth nowadays is a very scarce commodity. Steeper than jeans in 70's ... And, which is most annoying, the level of support for this war is such that it can be distinguished where it’s nonsense, and where it’s true.
    Throw a coin though ...
  18. SVD
    SVD
    0
    11 September 2011 20: 44
    Mesniy said:

    well, such a "rabble in slippers" successfully resisted the Soviet army in Afghanistan and drove the Russian army out of Chechnya into the first Chechen


    For these words I will tell you - YOU ARE A CREATOR!
    1. Mesniy
      0
      11 September 2011 23: 14
      Yes you went, schmuck!