Project Mobile Minuteman: BZHRK American

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One of the main achievements of the Soviet defense industry is deservedly considered the battle railway missile complex (BZHRK) "Good for you". A special train could ply the country's railway network and, upon receiving an order, launch several intercontinental ballistic missiles. For some reason, the full-fledged operation of the “Well done” lasted for a relatively short time, and in the 2000th years all complexes of this type were written off. However, the BZHRK "Molodets" remained in stories domestic military as one of the most interesting and daring projects.

It should be noted that the Molodets complex was the first in the world serial representative of its class. The very idea of ​​transporting and launching missiles from specially equipped trains appeared in the late fifties. Moreover, the BZHRK idea was not only formed, but also worked through as part of the experiments. The first in the world BZHRK could become the American system with a rocket Minuteman I.

Project Mobile Minuteman: BZHRK American


Mobile Minuteman

The first test launch of the intercontinental rocket LGM-30A Minuteman I took place on February 1 of the year 1961. Approximately two years before this event, specialists from the Strategic Command of the US Air Force, the Boeing company and several other related organizations began research on the survivability of strategic missiles. Already in the mid-fifties, it became clear that the mine launchers in the event of a nuclear war would become the target for the first strike, with the result that some of the missiles would be disabled. The loss of part of the "land" missiles could be compensated with the help of submarine armament. Nevertheless, it was necessary to ensure the guaranteed preservation of the largest possible part of land-based missiles.


Layout of the Mobile Minuteman complex in a configuration with 5 launchers


During a brainstorming session and the elaboration of several original ideas, American engineers came to the conclusion that there were great prospects for rocket complexes based on trains. At that time, there were several rail networks in the United States with a total length of tens of thousands of miles. This would allow the missile systems to constantly change their position, withdrawing from a possible strike, and also to a certain extent could increase their range by launching missiles from various parts of the country.

Choosing a rocket for a promising complex did not take long. At that time, the development of the LGM-30A rocket continued, which had acceptable dimensions and weight. The total length of this product was 16,4 m, the starting weight was 29,7 t. With such parameters, the rocket with the launch device could be transported in a special railway car. Despite the relatively small size, the rocket had to have a fairly high range characteristics. Three steps with solid-fuel engines promised a range of 9000-9200 km. The combat equipment of the missile was proposed to be performed in the form of a thermonuclear charge. For use with a mobile railway platform, the rocket required a new guidance system, which was supposed to be developed in the near future.


Photo layout BZHRK Mobile Minuteman in the press


12 February 1959 was the year when the official launch of the project, called Mobile Minuteman (Mobile Minuteman), took place. The military, taking into account the geopolitical situation, demanded that all work be carried out as soon as possible. The new "rocket train" was supposed to enter service no later than January 1963. Thus, in less than three years, it was necessary to conduct a full range of research, develop launchers and trains in general, and then test a new weapon system and establish its production.

According to reports, the BZHRK Mobile Minuteman should have included 10 wagons, half of which were used for residential premises and calculation jobs. For example, the command center of the complex was to be equipped with two jobs for officers responsible for launching missiles. For security reasons, the place of payment was proposed to split the armored glass. The remaining cars had to accommodate three launchers with missiles and special equipment.

The preliminary version of the Mobile Minuteman project provided for the use of a wagon with a launcher disguised as a standard refrigerator. According to calculations, the total weight of such a car with a rocket was supposed to reach 127 tons, which required the use of additional wheel sets to reduce the load on the road. Inside the car it was planned to place a set of special equipment that provides for the transportation and launch of a rocket. To dampen vibrations while driving, the car had to carry a system of hydraulic dampers. With the help of hydraulic jacks, it was proposed to lift the rocket into a vertical position before launching and install it on a small launch pad placed right in the car. Due to the lack of a transport and launch container, it was necessary to provide for the protection of the internal units of the car from the rocket engine flame.


Preparing for launch drawing. Newspaper Prescott Evening Courier


The plans of the US military was a full-scale serial construction of railway missile systems. The 4062 strategic rocket wing (regiment), formed by an order from 1 December 1960, should have operated such a technique. This unit was to be located at Hill Air Base (Ogden, Utah). The 4062-wing consisted of three squadrons, each of which was planned to pass on 10 BZHRK Mobile Minuteman. Thus, at the same time it was possible to deploy to the 90 ICBM "Minuteman-1" in the railway version. According to some reports, over time it was planned to bring their number to 150, leaving 450 missiles of the same type in the mine launchers.

Big Star operation

Creating a promising combat railroad missile system was associated with a number of specific problems and tasks that needed to be resolved as soon as possible. To test the proposed ideas in 1960, the Strategic Command of the Air Force and the Boeing company launched a series of tests called the “Operation Big Star” (according to other data, Bright Star). As part of this work, it was planned to build several prototype trains and conduct their sea trials on US railways.

In total, it was planned to conduct six stages of testing with the use of trains of different composition. In addition, the routes of prototype trains were laid on different railways of the United States. Thus, in a few months it was possible to carry out the full range of necessary research, check the available proposals and make adjustments to the preliminary draft. An interesting fact is that from the operation "Big Star" did not make special secrets. All tested trains traveled around the country without any disguise, and the provincial press constantly reported on the visit of the “rocket train” to a particular city.


Experienced train on trial, 20 Jun 1960 g.


The first test staff was formed at Hill AFB in mid-June 1960. A train of 14 cars for various purposes, including a car with a prototype launcher, set off on June 21. Until June 27, the train covered about 1100 miles on the railways of the Union Pacific, Western Pacific and Denver & Rio Grande networks.

The second train with a modified composition set off in early July of the same year. This trip lasted about 10 days for which 2300 miles were traveled. The exact route is unknown, but there is information on the composition of the crew of this “rocket train”. The second stage of the trial involved 31 military and 11 civilian specialists.

On July 26, a third test train (13 cars) left the Hill base and included an updated prototype car of the launcher. To check the vibration damping system, the LGM-30A weight and size simulator of the rocket, made of metal and filled with sand, was loaded into the car. In addition, the train picked up a platform with a container in which there was a solid propellant rocket engine. In this way it was planned to check the impact of vibration and other loads on rocket fuel. In two weeks, the third train traveled about 3000 miles along the roads of seven networks. The train crew consisted of 35 military and 13 civilian specialists.

In August, the last test trip to the country's railway network took place. In terms of the duration and composition of the train, the fourth tests were similar to the third. They, like a few days earlier, checked the vibration damping system and the impact of arising loads on the charge of solid fuel, as well as the work of various communication and control systems.


The route of one of the latest test flights. Prescott Evening Courier newspaper layout


27 August 1960, the prototype BZHRK Mobile Minuteman train returned to Hill base. During the four flights, we managed to complete the entire test program, with the result that, instead of carrying out two additional visits, the specialists were able to concentrate on other research and design work.

End of project

13 December 1960 of the year, Boeing completed the assembly of a full-size model of a promising "rocket train". The layout was supposed to show the military and get approval for the construction of a full-fledged prototype with all the necessary systems. Thus, in 1961, the Mobile Minuteman project could go on to the stage of full sea trials and test launches. The technical appearance of the prospective BZHRK underwent some changes by this time in comparison with the earlier versions, but it was based on previous ideas concerning the general architecture of the complex, weapons and application methods.


Calculation of the complex at work. Photo of the Spokane Daily Chronicle newspaper


However, already December 14 received an order to suspend all work. During the tests, it became clear that, in the proposed form, the new missile system has both advantages and disadvantages. In addition, the active development of rocket technology and nuclear forces in general affected the course of promising projects. Officially, the reason for stopping the project was its high cost. For almost two years, the Mobile Minuteman project “ate” several tens of millions of dollars, and further work should have led to additional expenses. As a result, the project was considered too expensive and stopped.

The second blow to the development of the American BZHRK was the order of US President John F. Kennedy on March 28 of 1961. In accordance with this document, the strategic nuclear forces were to be strengthened not by a new wing armed with “rocket trains”, but by a subunit with silo-based missiles.

The latest document in the fate of the project "Mobile Minuteman" was the order of the Minister of Defense Robert McNamara. December 7 1961, the head of the military department ordered to finally stop all work on the combat railway missile system with a special version of the LGM-30A rocket Minuteman I. In the future, this weapon used only with mine launchers.

The development of a preliminary draft, testing and subsequent work allowed to establish the positive and negative features of the original proposal. The advantages of the Mobile Minuteman complex include the highest mobility of launchers capable of moving along the many existing railways, and a high probability of survival in the event of a nuclear conflict. In addition, it was considered a plus no need to develop a completely new rocket. As part of the BZHRK was supposed to use a modification of the product LGM-30A with an updated guidance system that can take a missile at the specified target from anywhere in the US.

However, enough and cons. The main one is the high cost of developing and building complexes. It was this flaw that ultimately led to the closure of the project. Great difficulties were associated with preparing the rocket for launch. After reaching the starting position, it was required to begin a complex and lengthy preparation procedure. In particular, it was necessary to accurately determine the coordinates of the train and introduce an updated flight program into the rocket electronics, which seriously hampered the combat work in a real conflict.


A prototype train with a rocket simulator arrived in Spokane, Washington. Photo of the Spokane Daily Chronicles newspaper


The operation of serial “rocket trains” could be associated with some logistical and legal difficulties. The relatively large weight (127 t) of the car with the launcher imposed certain restrictions on the choice of route, which was required to be made taking into account the state of the railway tracks. In addition, due to the lack of a unified company containing and operating all the country's railways, certain difficulties could arise with the access of BZhRK to some networks or switching from one network to another.

As a result of comparison, the advantages of the promising missile system could not outweigh the existing disadvantages. The military found the BZHRK Mobile Minuteman too expensive and therefore had no advantages over existing mine systems. The project was closed, but the idea was not lost in the archives. In the late sixties, they began to make their BZHRK in the Soviet Union, and in the mid-eighties a second similar project of American design appeared.


Based on:
http://strategic-air-command.com/
http://rocketryforum.com/
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/
Archives of newspapers The Deseret News, Prescott Evening Courier, Gadsden Times and Spokane Daily Chronicle
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  1. +1
    16 January 2015 07: 12
    Still, the staff did not see all the prospects for such a mobile complex. That is why they were scared when he appeared in the USSR, and that is why they demanded that he be eliminated within the framework of the START Treaty. They would have invested more money, but would have used a Trident 2 missile (only with a longer range), and with a launch container - there would be no price for such a train. But what was not destined to happen did not grow together, but we got our own BZHRK and invaluable experience that allows them to revive.
    1. +1
      16 January 2015 09: 21
      and well, that did not see
    2. +1
      16 January 2015 10: 07
      There are no special prospects in the BZHRK. There are no special problems to detect them and track them now. I already wrote about this in detail in my comments on an article on this topic a few weeks ago, so I will not repeat myself. But the risk that the BZHRK poses to the transport infrastructure vital for Russia is a huge one. If the US railway is a secondary infrastructure, then in Russia it is in the first place and there is nothing to replace it so far. Therefore, Topol and Iasi seem to me personally a much better solution than the BZHRK. Of course, with the introduction of the BZHRK into the system, the minke whales will have additional problems, but they can solve them quite well and without spending huge amounts of money.
      1. 0
        16 January 2015 13: 59
        And what are the general advantages of BZHRK over soil complexes?
        1. +2
          16 January 2015 14: 59
          Mobility. The soil complex is 30-40 km / h. The average speed of the freight train is 60 km / h, but if they give a green street - 90 km / h (structural speed).
        2. +2
          16 January 2015 15: 45
          High mobility (up to 1500km per day. On average 1000km).
          Not the ability to visually calculate by means of reconnaissance (well, if we talk about the latter BRZD, which is easier to create). Thousands of "false" targets on a huge ter. Hide in tunnels
          1. +1
            16 January 2015 19: 33
            Quote: Kvazar
            High mobility (up to 1500km per day. On average 1000km).
            Not the ability to visually calculate by means of reconnaissance (well, if we talk about the latter BRZD, which is easier to create). Thousands of "false" targets on a huge ter. Hide in tunnels

            1. What for?
            Carrying nuclear weapons back and forth for thousands of kilometers does not sound like a good idea?
            Infrastructure, personnel (BZHDK can normally function only in a state like the USSR, with STATE railway and total control of the KGB).
            The zone of destruction of nuclear weapons ranges from 10 to 30km (depending on power)
            What is the difference between 300km or 1000km of the current?
            Theoretically, SPRNs give top management from 5 to 20h ...
            This is a theory.
            "the possibility of missile carriers getting out of the attack on a signal from the missile attack warning system (SPRN), giving the country's top leadership considerable time (from 5 to 20 hours)" to analyze the situation and make a decision ..

            On practice? from 20 minutes to 2 hours, if it comes to ...

            2. Starting (full-fledged) both there and there, as a rule, is possible only from specialized sites (horizontal, stealth, congestion).
            Sites are easy to "calculate"
            3. It is visually calculated quite easily and cheaply. THIS IS A LITERARY COMPOSITION.
            It is enough to analyze satellite images and it is calculated.
            + p. 5 and p. 2
            4. Excessive wear on general purpose tracks
            5. Crowding during combat duty (you can’t go out for a smoke, you can’t stop), and all the collisions associated with this
            6. Location-based SPECIFIC, easily localized, entry / exit easy to enlighten
            7. In tunnels and bunkers hides easily and Poplar Mu
            About the tunnels you are talking about (Baikal, Far East Siberia), you might not get it from there.
            Quote: Kvazar
            Thousands of "false" targets on a huge ter.

            not thousands. The PASSENGER STAFF (ventilation, heating systems, length of the train) for personnel and "as it were" cargo systems for ICBMs and support systems is imitated.
            The length of the MALA train, compared with the "usual"
            1. +4
              16 January 2015 19: 33
              Fighting railway complex.

              Stationary structure for a military railway complex.

              Location - Kostroma, Bershet, Krasnoyarsk (on 4 units).
              Sizes: length - 465 m., Width - 9,2 m, height - 10,4 m.
              Material - reinforced concrete. Capacity - 1 BZHRK.

              15Т357 system - a special set of equipment
              for the replacement of bogies(such equipment was not in the Ministry of Railways).


              Composition of units of the 15P961 complex
              DM62 - diesel locomotive
              DM62 - diesel locomotive
              DM62 - diesel locomotive
              15Т320 - tank car with diesel fuel reserves. Connected by pipelines to all
              units of the complex where there are diesels.

              15Т273А - car of technological equipment of the starting module: diesel units, SES and TVR systems, hydraulic equipment, ZOKS, fire extinguishing systems;
              15Т272А - actually PU itself: TPK with a rocket, boom, hydraulic lift,
              PP (dash platform - AGK);
              15В199А - command post of the control unit: ground control and control system, communication, navigation system, ZOKS,
              household compartment, proper compartment of the gearbox;
              These three units made up the launch module or the 15P761 launcher.
              If necessary, the launch module could go on patrol routes independently, it was enough to attach a locomotive and put on duty shift control. Module cars are non-decoupleable, impassable. The 15Т272 unit is connected to the 15Т273 and 15В199 units except for the automatic coupler and cable and pipeline network by unloading devices, in order to transfer part of the weight to neighboring cars, because even 8 axes were not enough to enter the permissible axle load on the railway network in 23 tons.
              15P761 No. 2 (PU 2)
              15P761 No. 3 (PU 3)

              regiment command module:
              15Т275 - wagon-command post of the regiment: compartments of control units, communications, post SAUK and SUTO.
              Compartments of ABU equipment and receiving communication equipment (mainly)
              15Т274 - car transmitting radio center
              15Т276 - a car-diesel power station (the main source of energy as on
              parking, and in motion)
              15Т280 - autonomous supply carriage: refrigerators with food supply,
              Tanks (whole system) with a supply of drinking water. Also provided
              storage locations for some transportable spare parts.
              15Т277 - dining car
              15Т278 - officer dormitory car
              15Т279 - a dormitory car of a military service dormitory, here is a compartment of DSOO-K

              All wagons of the command module are walk-through, and if desired, you can also disengage.

              Diesel locomotives must always be coupled in threeeither in the head of the composition (where 15Т320) or in the tail (where 15Т279). They are released only in the case of "runaway" along the starting modules.

            2. Old skeptic
              +4
              17 January 2015 02: 42
              Let's start with the fact that it is planned to renew the BZHDK on the basis of Yars. This means that the rocket fits 100% into the mass-dimensional characteristics of a standard refrigerated car, while the rocket is with a multiple warhead, and not a monoblock one like in the Molodets, i. issues of camouflage and load on the canvas have been successfully resolved.
              As for the length of the staff, this is a question to be solved (only better are the conditions of service of the personnel).
              You have bent about flat sections, we have hundreds of thousands of kilometers. I know what I'm talking about (my brother works in Russian Railways on track control).
              On a rotational basis, a couple of trains cruise around the country, and in a menacing period everyone leaves, and the enemy’s reconnaissance will have to search for them in the vastness of our Motherland, and it’s very difficult to identify and destroy it at all (while the satellite has spotted, the rocket has flown in, the target is already unknown where).
              The survival rate of these complexes is very high, and this is enough to cause unacceptable damage to the enemy.

              In essence, these are land strategic submarines.
              1. +1
                17 January 2015 12: 09
                Quote: Old Skeptic
                despite the fact that the missile with a multiple warhead, and not a monoblock one as in the "Molodets", ie. disguise issues

                1. Certainly not "Well done" - it is practically impossible to recreate it (myadan), and it is pointless9
                2. Both "Molodets" and "Yars" in terms of dimensions both fit into the ref.vagon. On the same 100%.
                Yes. "Yars" is lighter, almost 2a times, BUT (!) RT-23 UTTH warheads threw more than 2 times more warheads, and along a different trajectory. Thrust of 300 tons, against 100 tons, with a difference in weight 2a times - WHAT DOES THAT SAY? As well as about "11000km".
                Quote: Old Skeptic
                and not monoblock like in "Well done",

                ? 10 pieces by 0,43 MT (or by 0,55) - do you call MONOBLOCK?
                3.How "monobloc" or "separating" can play a role in the load on the web
                4.49-50 tons of the rocket itself + devices for lifting, servicing, prelaunch preparation, lid release, thermal container. This is certainly not 100 tons, and the output will not be 200 tons, but still there will be MORE maximum speed in 60 tons
                Quote: Old Skeptic
                As for the length of the staff, this is a question to be solved (only better are the conditions of service of the personnel).

                This issue was "resolved" even then (and easier than now), but no one just carried containers around the country.
                All the same, there will be a "specific" train: short, 3 locomotives, vinaigrette of passenger and freight cars.
                Quote: Old Skeptic
                I know what I'm talking about (my brother works in Russian Railways on track control).

                and I know what I'm talking about, although my brother is not in Russian Railways.
                it is required not just the Smooth section (it was not for launch, because it was hung on the supports), but it was transported for diesel locomotives and launch modules.
                Starts were made from sites (dead ends). They are all abandoned.
                Quote: Old Skeptic
                It’s very difficult (as long as the satellite has spotted, a rocket has flown in, the target is already unknown where).

                BZHDK, if it is not at the base, the RDG is not destroyed by a "rocket"
                1. THAT war has begun (they)
                2.NOT found a pair of BZHDK
                3. First Wave
                4.Our delayed time (30min) in response than you can
                5.Explosions at us, w / h 30 min explosions at them
                6. Remained intact 2-3,5 BZHDK with us, with the destroyed roads and country.
                They have a ruined country (sub-base than ours, maybe less and densely populated / built up), WITHOUT BZHDK
                What does it change?
                Quote: Old Skeptic
                In essence, these are land strategic submarines.

                why invent the unnecessary is BZHDK
    3. -1
      17 January 2015 21: 30
      all this garbage .. it is necessary to place in space
  2. +1
    16 January 2015 08: 08
    Actually, the caption to the photo says "Bright Star", not "Big ..."
  3. +1
    16 January 2015 08: 20
    and in the mid-eighties, a second similar project of American development appeared.

    Question, Kirill Ryabov will make an article about Peacekeeper Rail Garrison? Or about him like that, casually?

    Within the framework of a market economy, BZHRK is too expensive a pleasure. I have no doubt what kind of accounts Yakunin will set up for the increased wear of the tracks ... his appetite is dimensionless ...
    Yakunin threatened to leave Russian Railways due to demand to disclose salary
    1. +2
      16 January 2015 09: 57
      Quote: Nayhas
      Question, Kirill Ryabov will make an article about Peacekeeper Rail Garrison? Or about him like that, casually?

      and you don’t want to write an article? wink Write, we are pleased to read
      1. -3
        16 January 2015 13: 07
        Quote: 0255
        Do you want to write an article yourself? wink Write, we are pleased to read

        Chukchi reader ... wink
  4. +1
    16 January 2015 08: 37
    I think a wider railway track gives us some advantages. And for BZHRD, and for the transportation of goods, including armored vehicles.
    1. +2
      16 January 2015 08: 55
      Quote: igordok
      I think a wider railway track gives us some advantages.

      The track in Russia is wider than 1520 mm. in comparison with the USA and Europe - 1435 mm. In Nazi Germany, for communication on the territory of the future empire, projects of railways with a gauge of 3 to 4 meters were developed, but they all sunk into oblivion along with the failed "thousand-year" Reich.
    2. +1
      16 January 2015 15: 03
      It gives both advantages and disadvantages. The construction of a new site is many times more expensive than with a narrow track. But then the savings on rolling stock, pick-up and drop-off tracks - they can be made shorter.
      1. +1
        17 January 2015 02: 06
        Quote: Andrey77
        But then the savings on rolling stock, pick-up and drop-off tracks - they can be made shorter.

        explain, not in the know. HOW IS THIS RELATED?
        1. 0
          19 January 2015 14: 37
          Just. The wider the track, the greater the "carrying capacity" of the car. And then physics - the railway track is of course iron, but it has a limitation (here we look at the pressure on the ground - wiki to help). With a narrow gauge, more wagons are needed to transport the same cargo. And if there are more wagons, the receiving and departure tracks are lengthened.
  5. 0
    16 January 2015 10: 29
    The mattresses didn’t go beyond the project, but we did it.


  6. 0
    16 January 2015 11: 26
    An interesting detail is the bulletproof glass between the officers responsible for the launch. Why - it’s clear that they don’t put each other up. Interestingly, they have the same on the silos of ICBMs?
    1. 0
      16 January 2015 20: 42
      And why do they need to shoot at each other? To launch a rocket without an order? So later this will be found in any way and will be lowered from a living skin. Or in order not to desert if you receive an order to launch? I do not understand.
  7. +1
    16 January 2015 13: 39
    My opinion: In the United States, having simply figured out all the pros and cons of this system, they relied on SSBNs. Do not forget that about the same time, the Skybolt program with an airborne ballistic missile was "buried".
    1. +1
      16 January 2015 15: 06
      In the US, railways are now generally in decline. Train stations sold to trading companies. Another 10 years and the railway message in the US will die.
      1. +2
        17 January 2015 02: 28
        Quote: Andrey77
        . 10 and the railway message in the USA will die even more years.

        What to write Nonsense?
        1.WAY USA - the largest in the world (in extent). The length of railways is approximately TWO times greater than in Russia.

        (True, approximately 0,5% of the network length is electrified.)
        2. Approximately 80 percent of U.S. railways there is no passenger traffic. Suburban traffic not at about 99 percent.
        ALL CARGO TRANSPORTATION - the arteries of the economy are old.
        3. Railroad tracks belong to different private companies, the networks are not united. Therefore, there are such "jokes"

        and such (railway and city tram in one bottle)


        New York long-distance train at Miami-Tsentralnaya station You can travel 2 days, sitting in an armchair (no reserved seats)

        4: Washington Union Station

        but he was the legendary "Penn Station"

        (now he's somewhere under the football stadium)



        1. +2
          17 January 2015 02: 38
          What exactly is:
          1. The history of the railways of the North American United States is very dramatic and over the 180 years it has gone through the extreme points of the state - from the largest and most advanced transport system in the world to a marginal set of passenger lines, expelled from the centers of most major cities and survived the so-called The Great Rail Pogrom, which lasted for fifteen years (1956-1970)
          The remains of old America is the second largest abandoned Buffalo railway station in the world.

          2. Suburban traffic KILLED: Suburban 2-floor in Miami under a diesel locomotive.

          3. At stations - extremely small track development. Only the most necessary is left. Engineers often work in one person. At marshalling yards, shunting diesel locomotives often do not have a driver. They are controlled remotely. Arrows are sometimes manually translated

          There is a film about the "run away" train, it is quite new, everything is clear there
  8. Aspirin
    +1
    16 January 2015 14: 45
    Quote: gregor6549
    There are no special prospects in the BZHRK. There are no special problems to detect them and track them now. I already wrote about this in detail in my comments on an article on this topic a few weeks ago, so I will not repeat myself. But the risk that the BZHRK poses to the transport infrastructure vital for Russia is a huge one. If the US railway is a secondary infrastructure, then in Russia it is in the first place and there is nothing to replace it so far. Therefore, Topol and Iasi seem to me personally a much better solution than the BZHRK. Of course, with the introduction of the BZHRK into the system, the minke whales will have additional problems, but they can solve them quite well and without spending huge amounts of money.



    Like the good Americans will not bomb the railway if they do not ride a nuclear train. Yeah.
  9. +1
    16 January 2015 20: 45
    provide for the protection of the internal units of the car from the flame of a rocket engine


    This is already too much. Who will be interested in the car after launch? Even if these are just exercises, a rocket still costs hundreds of times more than a carriage.
  10. +1
    16 January 2015 21: 05
    Was it in the USA in 1961 that the almost ready BZHRK was, but in the USSR only R-7?
  11. Tribuns
    0
    17 January 2015 00: 38
    Thanks to the author for information about the history of the development of the American BZHRK Minuteman by the Americans 1 ...
    Interesting, plus!
    We are waiting for the revival of our "Well done", scheduled for 2020!
  12. +1
    17 January 2015 00: 40
    Unfortunately yes. Almost throughout the USSR, it acted as catching up. For a long time, using open sources, I compiled a table of weapons systems by years of adoption. So, the Soviet counterparts came into military operation with a delay of 5-7 years. A typical example of the F-15 - 1976, Su-27-1982. etc...
  13. 0
    17 January 2015 13: 26
    I will repeat my comment on this topic from 24 April
    "This topic has already been discussed and more than once on this site.
    For example, I believe that systems on automobile platforms such as "Topol" are more suitable for Russian strategic nuclear forces than BZHRK. And the stealth is higher than that of the BZHRK, and there is more room for maneuver, and there is no need to expose all major railway junctions, which is nothing more than densely populated cities.
    Of course, the potential enemy will have to invest certain headstock to ensure reconnaissance and destruction of the BZHRK and all places where they can, in principle, be located, but when he, the enemy, was stopped by the question with the headstock.
    It may be objected that the BZHRK is very difficult to detect among other trains.
    Nothing like this. This problem has been discussed for a long time and specialists came to the conclusion that from a technical point of view, it is not so difficult to find and accompany the BZHRK.
    In particular, both in the USSR and in the USA in the 70s and 80s, the development of radar systems using the so-called. turbine or propeller effect, discovered back in the late 30s, allowing, based on the analysis of the low-frequency (sound) component of the spectrum of the reflected radar signal, it is relatively easy to compile a catalog of individual "sound" portraits of potential targets containing turbines, internal combustion engines, i.e. cars. planes, trains, etc., and then highlight the targets of interest against the background of others.
    This we are talking about the sound portrait (signature) of the target, in this case, BZHRK.
    But similar "portraits" are available for these targets in other wavelengths, for example, infrared. And by combining these portraits, it is possible with a very high degree of probability to detect and identify the BZHRK (unless, of course, he is hiding in one of the tunnels). Yes, and there you can discreetly throw a couple of seismos and other sensors if you wish. So you can, of course, spend a lot of money again, hoping to get another "wunderwaffe". But history has proved more than once that any "wunderwaffe" can be covered with a "copper basin" if desired. There is no doubt that a potential enemy will have such a desire. "
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      18 January 2015 10: 45
      Well, that's all, any medium is meaningless. Auto "to see" them is easier for SHSHA to find than trailers. You can't let 100 auto transporters along Moscow streets. Rockets into the furnace. recourse
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        18 January 2015 14: 39
        Meaning is determined by the efficiency / cost metric. Taking into account the current state of the Russian economy, this indicator is still in favor of investing useful rubles in the modernization of what is already available. In this case, the modernization of nuclear submarines, silo ICBMs and ICBMs on wheeled chassis. And this will be more than enough to curb the appetites of foreign "friends" or to guarantee unacceptable harm to these "friends" if they cannot be contained. It's time to learn how to count money, and not someone else's money, which is typical for many commentators on this site, but your own. Well, let's not forget that all new ideas will have to be implemented by the Russian industry, which, whatever one may say, is still much weaker than the industry of the USSR. This means that all ideas will be implemented much slower than in the days of the USSR. Those who have been spinning in this very industry for more than one year should understand me. But those who are trying to manage the industry without leaving the couch are unlikely to understand.
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    18 January 2015 18: 53
    Here the Americans abandoned the BZHRK, and our design bureaus were brought to a series! Although our rocket is significantly heavier, and the St. Petersburg design bureau "Barrikada" has developed many interesting designs for launching cars. And of course "Yuzhmash" tried. bully
    It's a pity, these expenses of the country (and they took a lot of money, "guns instead of butter") were destroyed by the previous hoopes in power to please us ... hi