70 years ago the fascist blockade of Leningrad began

70 years ago the fascist blockade of Leningrad began
An unparalleled feat in stories humanity became the Leningrad blockade, which began on this day 70 years ago. 8 September 1941 around the city closed the ring of German troops.


The siren signals, 3740 once sounded during the siege, will be heard again today in St. Petersburg, forcing the passers-by to wince and the veterans to cry. This is how the Leningrad Day of Remembrance and Grief will begin.



Wreaths will be laid at the graves of residents and soldiers-defenders of the city. In the Peter and Paul Fortress, the 7, Leningradskaya, Dmitry Shostakovich symphony will be played and newsreels will be shown. In the city, an action will start on the compilation of the “People’s Book of Memory” - a collection of memoirs of the blockade.



The schoolgirl Tanya Savicheva, whose blockade diary is known to the whole world, became a symbol of the city that had not surrendered. At the school where she studied, a museum will be opened and a youth action of memory will be held, ITAR-TASS reports.



The siege of Leningrad lasted until January 27 1944. During this time, about 800 thousands of people died from hunger, cold and bombing. During the defense and liberation of the city, 2 million soldiers were killed.
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  1. zczczc
    zczczc 8 September 2011 14: 22 New
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    Yes, let's not forget it guys.
    Own weakness is punishable!
  2. Aktium
    Aktium 8 September 2011 16: 58 New
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    Memory of Bolshevik sloppiness and illiteracy. Although why an unprecedented feat in the history of mankind? They love to dramatize and exaggerate everything. The Roman troops besieged Carthage for three years. Nobody came to the aid of the Carthaginians only. forces. And Kozelsk, the "evil city"? A feat worthy of Russian Glory and Memory for centuries.
    So there were cooler heroes and exploits. By the way, Sevastopol still forgot to mention - in the Crimean campaign. Many examples in human history.
    1. Sanzyro
      Sanzyro 8 September 2011 19: 23 New
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      They were abruptly, that means ... It's cool to talk like that in isolation from reality, at the computer, with a booty on a chair ... You should be there! Wallpaper glue to eat! On my belly I would probably crawl to "my" boys, who are not slobs - no. Literate German guys firing at this city - are they prettier to you? The concept of a feat is when you have a bazooka and you are unarmed, yes ?? And this, well, really, what's so ... And you think with your head! They did not rush to give up the crowd, did not crawl for mercy! They knew for sure - there is an enemy! And though it was not military, but they had enough stamina and confidence! The enterprises worked! And not only enterprises, the city continued to live! I don’t even want to draw analogies with the current “wise connoisseurs” of history ... They would probably have met the chances with bread and salt. I’m not going to deliberately deliberate!
      1. Vadivak 8 September 2011 19: 40 New
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        My mother-in-law (esesso child) is a blockade girl, she reluctantly recalls the war, only got from her that they ate mustard and when I asked why she didn’t eat it, and in 1942 they evacuated her, but it turned out that they had been sent to the nat. I’m probably a Finnish, and her father, a Finn, of course (a communist) fought at the space station at that time, came home, and there nobody has recognized her blockade so far, which staff scum wrote that she was evacuated from a non-existent non-existent, although in Leningradskaya areas of
      2. Aktium
        Aktium 8 September 2011 20: 46 New
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        Regarding "reasoning in isolation from reality, at the computer, booty on a chair" - this is you apparently to yourself, "comrade". You give the facts of the cause of the blockade? Or do not any arguments apply to you, except for the machine gun in the head? Where did you see bazookas at German soldiers? More than half of the Wehrmacht were armed with carbines and rifles. Erase more Soviet films by zombies - they will not show you there (you might even see flying saucers armed with the Luftwaffe). "They didn’t rush to give up the crowd." You would have looked at the statistics. To start. Four million prisoners in the first three months of the war - this is not a "crowd"? Wallpaper glue can be eaten in principle (then). Since it was made on the basis of starch (almost the same mashed potato bp is modern).
        But you jump through the mountains - crawl 38 days without grub and every day under bullets. The patriot is fucking. I’ll see what songs will later sound in my head. Yes, I know the story. And I'm proud of it. Unlike the “Ivanov Nameless.” If for you the defense of Sevastopol in the Crimean campaign and everything else that I wrote above is empty, you really do not see beyond your nose. You and like you, the whole story begins in 1917. "Fiery revolutionaries, faithful Leninists." Did your great-grandfather accidentally serve in the Cheka, young man?
        Yes. And one more thing. I don’t rest against any disadvantages. I express my point of view and give facts. If this helps someone to figure it out, I’ll be glad. So you can minus 100 times a day.
        Thank you for attention.
        1. Sanzyro
          Sanzyro 8 September 2011 23: 13 New
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          All clear. Convinced "connoisseur of history." I’m dying about people for you, and you are statistics to me ... What the hell is the difference with what the Germans were armed there? You don’t understand the irony ?? Well, and if you do not understand such elementary things, then the glue for you wallpaper in the order of things! This is the start date of the blockade! And what does Sevastopol and the Crimean campaign have to do with it ?? Facts, you see ... The facts are such that there was a formation of such "historians" who know everything about the blockade, about millions of surrender and in the past of their country see only darkness and dirt. The 17th, the Cheka - is also, by the way, our past! Yes, but doesn’t it exist for you? I wonder how long your Russia begins? From the Yeltsin nineties or from the Gorbachev eighties? And you didn’t set forth the facts (people are competent here even without you) but spat on the unprecedentedly tragic and heroic events of our country!
          1. Aktium
            Aktium 9 September 2011 12: 28 New
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            For starters, you would have learned to talk, "comrade" Sanziro, otherwise you behave like a criminal proletarian of the 20s. However, there is enough such haml on the Internet. The gateway rushes from all the cracks.
            I personally see dirt and gloom only in people like you. It was such people who led the "literate" and led Russia to the "position of cancer" in which it is now. Among other things, I think in the 30s, you would threatened with "cleaning." It was such "fiery fighters" who were sent to camps and put to the wall of comrades Beria L.P. and Stalin I.V.
            And the history of MY Russia begins in the XNUMXth century, and in Russia from the end of the XNUMXth century.
            And here is what I wanted to ask. What is heroism? The fact that General Leeb took the German troops to reorganization and the Bolsheviks had two weeks to organize the defense of the city? Or is it that in October 1941, the Leningrad Bolsheviks wanted to surrender the city to the Finns, and only the arrival of a representative of the Headquarters prevented this from happening? Or is heroism when you are sitting in a trench, and comrades from the NKVD with a machine gun are standing behind, so that you wouldn’t run by accident? Or was it to "eat wallpaper glue", because there was nothing more to eat (well, except to do cannibalism - were there such)?
            "Unprecedentedly tragic" .... And when the Cheka, the commissars and food detachments killed the Russian peasants and destroyed the best people of Russia - is this a tragedy or a "class struggle" for you?
            1. makrus
              makrus 9 September 2011 16: 28 New
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              funny comrade wink
        2. irony
          irony 9 September 2011 00: 01 New
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          The history of history is different. Only a person who has studied it in the archive, according to documents, not books, can know history. Each moment of history has so many interpretations, how many people he touched. I wonder how the blockade affected you.
          1. Sanzyro
            Sanzyro 9 September 2011 00: 12 New
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            How about you ?? Or do you have your own interpretation that goes against the generally accepted one? And you get pounded by this?
            1. Aktium
              Aktium 9 September 2011 12: 30 New
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              "Generally accepted interpretation" - how is it? Jewish communist or what?
              1. Old Cat Basilio
                Old Cat Basilio 9 September 2011 13: 03 New
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                Dear Aktsium, for the most part I support your views on the history of Russia, but let's not stoop to the personal insults of our opponents!
                1. Aktium
                  Aktium 9 September 2011 16: 18 New
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                  I agree. I have indicated my position in relation to the "comrade" Sanziro. For half a year I have read such comments, where outright rudeness prevails. But, in general, you are right. Not worth it.
                  1. Sanzyro
                    Sanzyro 10 September 2011 09: 29 New
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                    Indeed, it’s not worth it ... About frank rudeness - re-read carefully your comments! How? Didn’t notice anything? And as for the Jewish-communist interpretations, as soon as I hear militant nationalism, where in principle there is no topic of nationality, it’s immediately clear what kind of “comrade” it writes! Recently, there have been many such "glorious Rusichs" in the Internet and not only ... Russians, in fact, are not peculiar to nationalism so historically. So, comrade Aktsium, do not unnecessarily stick out your historical knowledge and nationality. This is what gives you a head out. PS I’ll tell you a secret - Russia is somewhat older than you think.
                    1. Aktium
                      Aktium 10 September 2011 20: 38 New
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                      There is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the mug is crooked (Russian proverb). In the words of others, like a squirrel in knots (The same thing).
                      Kremlin dog to you comrade. "I’ll tell you a secret - Russia is somewhat older than you think". You can keep your secrets to yourself. Thoughts of such types as Asov, Dobroslav and Kazakov, as well as the Siberian" witch "Anastasia, you can take with you to the restroom. Nationalism is not militant, unlike communism. It either exists or it no.
                      You can tell about Russian nationalism’s non-nationalist character. You can tell me on some show. Like “For a barrier” or “Let them talk.” I don’t stick out my story in history, but I provide facts, unlike you, who is openly engaged in verbal balancing and replacing facts - speculation and emotions. “Squeezing out!” Is something new. And how do I stand out? In that I write what I know?
            2. irony
              irony 12 September 2011 01: 18 New
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              Sanzyro,
              Sanzyro, I replied to Aktium, not to you. I do not interpret history, because I do not write textbooks. My thoughts about certain events do not become postulates. I believe that the residents of the city of Leningrad who survived the blockade are martyrs. They would all be canonized. Those, in any case, who did not lose their human faces. And she touched me, by virtue of my age, only by the stories of relatives and friends who survived her. It was enough for me to hate fascism and xenophobia, as such, indiscriminately of their foundations.
              PS A familiar granny (blockade) pities the Germans who survived the capture of Berlin.
              PPS Before attacking, ask who the comment is for.
          2. Banshee 10 September 2011 21: 36 New
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            Utter nonsense. Documents, too, people wrote.
            The history of the siege of Leningrad was not studied in the archives, for example, but according to the stories of the only surviving relative, Alexandra Ryshardovna. She is one of 211 people, my relatives. The rest is all there. Who on Piskarevsky, and who has no grave.
            1. irony
              irony 12 September 2011 01: 31 New
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              Not that I wanted to say, okay now. Documents are written, not written. Document - there are dry statistics. History ... when you start to study it on a professional level, it becomes clear that this is plasticine. You can sculpt as you like. An example of this is modern textbooks - where everything was turned upside down, compared with the "Soviet" times. Yes, and then many moments corresponded for the sake of ideology, but this did not concern the War. I was raised on the fact that Gastello is a hero. And now his feat is laid out on the shelves. Matrosov was also demoted, a monument still stands in Velikiye Luki. Now they are taking up the blockade. Maybe the city leadership does not apply to heroes, but here are the residents ... I already wrote above what my opinion is about them. Excuse me. I expressed it incomprehensibly.
              PS I threw the historical. Disappointed in History.
    2. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 13 September 2011 10: 51 New
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      Reading your dispute with sanziro, I want to say that you don’t see obvious things behind your opinion. You have not obsessively humiliated the most important thing: AN ACKNOWLEDGE OF THE PEOPLE for which you are trying to screw memorable dates in other examples, but it’s about BLOCKADE and not how and at what time it’s hard again for OUR people. Well, if YOU Dear (it’s without irony) you want to remind all of us of the other deeds taking place in history, you had to do this in a different form and, with pride in your people, YOU, as I understand it, belong TO THIS people SO RESPECT ALL ITS VICTORIES LIKE LIKE DAMAGES, FOR THIS WE ARE RUSSIAN !!!
    3. stas 13 September 2011 13: 04 New
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      The war that the Soviet people waged against Hitler and the countries of Europe that helped him directly and indirectly in this, in terms of scale and casualties, has never happened before and never will be.
      In that war only the Russian people could defeat other peoples of the USSR, and he did it.
      Therefore, comparing small wars and their episodes with the Great Patriotic War is historically not equivalent.
  3. Old Cat Basilio
    Old Cat Basilio 8 September 2011 21: 49 New
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    Take the most powerful fortress in the world? Damn, funny !!!!
  4. Marat
    Marat 8 September 2011 22: 08 New
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    I agree!
    In order not to experience this again, we must become strong and unite. They tried to deceive us that the world has become "pink and fluffy" - but around us predators are no less terrible than Hitler
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      Old Cat Basilio 8 September 2011 22: 25 New
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      Hey, micromayor, caliber 406 mm, can you imagine? Is 305 mm weak? Well, 256 mm - I will not remember !!!!
  5. Marat
    Marat 8 September 2011 22: 41 New
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    You cat, if you want to communicate, then formulate a thought clearer
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      Old Cat Basilio 8 September 2011 22: 55 New
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      Sorry, Marat, I'm talking about the calibers of the battleships “Soviet Union!”, “Sevastopol” and the armored cruiser “Rurik”.
  6. chehywed 9 September 2011 00: 44 New
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    Speaking of calibers! On the anniversary of the breaking of the blockade (1943) on the NTV channel (WHAT AMAZING), a dock was shown. a film about blockade. One plot was about an older, Tatar, battalion commander of the fort "Krasnaya Gorka". At his disposal were 4-305mm and 4 -100mm guns. And not a single anti-aircraft gun. Sitting on the battery, he saw an armada of bombers going to Leningrad. After calculating the distance to the target, the battalion commander lifted the 4 barrel up to 305 mm and thrust it “in white light, like a penny.” After half an hour he was arrested. He spent the night in the cell, awaiting execution. And in the morning he was sent to the duty station, with the assignment of the order. In one gulp, he demolished from the sky near 80 bombers, repelling a raid on Leningrad. What charter does it spell?
    1. ballian
      ballian 9 September 2011 07: 49 New
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      Could such a heresy on NTV be shown? it is strange that only 80, not 800 :)
    2. Vadivak 9 September 2011 12: 54 New
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      Ovcharenko, Dmitry Romanovich on the wiki if you didn’t read it ... I don’t draw any conclusions, they fell without a parachute in the war and from 7 km,
    3. makrus
      makrus 9 September 2011 16: 32 New
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      cool yes ... wink
  7. chehywed 9 September 2011 01: 30 New
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    As for the pseudo-historians, you are right, but defending your opinion try to do without insults.
  8. Lunahod1969
    Lunahod1969 9 September 2011 21: 17 New
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    Strange you are all who are fun, someone is looking for the guilty, and who generally do not give a damn! It turns out that 27 million ruined souls are just statistics? WHAT DO WE DISCUSS ABOUT? WHERE ARE THE GUYS GOING ???
    1. Aktium
      Aktium 10 September 2011 00: 59 New
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      And this is how to count. Under Stalin they counted 7 million. Under Khrushchev 20. Under Brezhnev - more than 20. And under Gorbachev - 27 million. Statistics, in this case, if any, is carefully hidden. Leaving aside the speculations and fantasies of crooks from politics. Govorukhin in his film "Russia We Lost" calls the figure from 30 to 40 million. So you look by 2045 and all 100 millions are recruited.
      Jews, too, say that they killed 6 million, although at that time in Europe so many Jews would not have gathered even if they scratched all the nooks and crannies.
      1. irony
        irony 12 September 2011 01: 34 New
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        . Take only Eastern Europe, by 38, about 10 million Jews were living there.
        1. zczczc
          zczczc 12 September 2011 02: 10 New
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          Hitler, I heard, counted 5 million in all of Eurasia.
          1. irony
            irony 12 September 2011 02: 46 New
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            Hitler wanted in October 1942 with mechanized columns to reach the Urals in order to finish off the remnants of Soviet troops there. I read excerpts from the OKV diary, so apparently, they did not even know the possibilities of Soviet industry. The strategic intelligence of the Germans was very bad. And you say he considered the Jews.
            1. zczczc
              zczczc 12 September 2011 02: 50 New
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              Well then the question is, who should be considered a Jew. Hitler believed that in whom Jewish blood seems to be more than 1/8.

              Jews themselves believe that even now there are less than a million of them. At the same time, entire nations contain 85% of their blood:
              http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1
              % 86% D1% 8B
              1. irony
                irony 12 September 2011 03: 04 New
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                I agree. The question is, who is considered a Jew? Very sharp question, mind you! It is strange that some industrialists of the Reich had a direct relationship with the Jews, but they lived as if nothing had happened. So it turns out that the Jews were those who were objectionable. Well, nationality, of course, was added. The terminology is all that. You cannot destroy people.
                1. zczczc
                  zczczc 12 September 2011 03: 24 New
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                  The essence of the whole mess of the 30s in Germany, if rude, looked like this: the rich Jews, who controlled the de facto entire financial system of Germany and not only, were close to Finnish. collapse, as the United States is now. There are many reasons for this, every schoolchild knows them (Versailles world, poverty, etc.). And they were in search of an extraordinary solution. The decision arose in the plane of "on whom to blame and shed quietly." They found a fool with extremist ideas - he instantly entered the role and became a demigod. Everything was fine, only now he got out of control. Like Stalin, when they put him in, they did not think that he was a “real” leader. Entering the role, he quickly identified the problem, made several PR actions such as a night of long knives and a crystal night, and then did what he considered necessary - the nation is united, it has a goal, Austria lives the coming reunion, silver spoons are carried directly to the state . treasury. An extraordinary national upsurge. But really rich Jews, meanwhile, have withdrawn capital to Switzerland and the United States, leaving their relatives who did not reach the financial pie to tear to pieces by the new government. Hitler nationalized only a small fraction of Jewish capital.

                  Who was at the helm of the Third Reich with Jewish roots is not so important. For us it doesn’t matter at all. For us, the only important thing is that when someone in Europe really needs resources, he comes to us. Or we bring him, as it is now. Everything else is the "historical context" of the same event called "Russia - the feeding of Europe." By the way, Stalin also sold German resources before the war, delaying its beginning as far as possible. He was wise, and Hitler was an idiot, so he did something that a reasonable person would not go for sure - he attacked us in search of resources.

                  How it ended - it is known: the Jews told us thanks and settled back across Europe. And we remained isolated because we became self-sufficient. And they remained so until they killed Stalin. Then we were no longer self-sufficient, but still remained in isolation. Well, due to the lack of a normal leader, they have come to a collapse, in fact.

                  So the national composition of Germany at all times should be completely violet to us. By the way, now in the role of this fool Obama. Only he really is a fool.
  9. Sanzyro
    Sanzyro 10 September 2011 12: 31 New
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    History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood! What was - it was ... And philosophizing crafty, and what would happen if this or that - some just forget that people are behind all this! And arrogantly argue what they say -
    Quote: Akcium
    Although why an unprecedented feat in the history of mankind? They like to dramatize and exaggerate everything here.

    it’s just not good ... It disturbs from such an attitude ... Having grabbed onto historical facts (not always true) Some people, as they say, do not see forests behind the trees!
    1. Banshee 10 September 2011 21: 44 New
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      From their 210 relatives left there thanks.
  10. Aktium
    Aktium 10 September 2011 20: 43 New
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    Because there were, if I may say so, more heroic examples. Including in Russian history. And if you do not see beyond your nose, then ask knowledgeable people, and do not "stick out" your lack of literacy and "Soviet patriotism."
  11. Banshee 10 September 2011 21: 42 New
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    Actium, yes, you are finally smiled!
    What, there is no other topic to raise your own CSW?
    I also studied history, and I can tell you a lot about the defense of Sevastopol, my grandfather fought there. With his stories.
    This is not about this, and not about your knowledge.
    it is (if you have not yet reached) about human memory. About the people who lived in those days, worked, fought.
    We are talking about them, not about your "knowledge"
    And your posts just stink.
    I despise nonhumans.
    1. Aktium
      Aktium 11 September 2011 17: 26 New
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      Oops! Well, we got to the very essence. You, the "comrade" Banshee is a supporter of the theory of the existence of people and nonhumans. And you probably imagine yourself a "superman"? And someone, from your point of view, is a "non-management"?
      What about looking in the mirror? Are your earlobes not fused?
      Is the skull of the correct shape? Was they measured with a caliper? And your eyes are probably blue, "blond beast"? And the blood of the first group, with a positive Rh factor?
      And what is the ChSV? And how to raise it?
      And your grandfather is apparently a long-liver, if he remembers the Crimean campaign and participated in the defense of Sevastopol? Probably he saw Admiral Nakhimov?
      So, unlike you, I know more and have lived longer. And I do not judge things from the stories of one person, but consider the issue from all points of view. Yours with Sanziro are Bolshevik nonsense, I'm interested in so far as I'm interested in the nature of human stupidity. You think in patterns (two or three) based on which you distribute people on the right and not right. Usual Bolshevik demagogy. I, in general, immediately noticed that there is a "red" majority on this site. Assuming that on the "Military review "I will find articles related to military theory, strategy and tactics, I registered on this site. But, basically I saw the propaganda of" red "madness.
      By the way, do not confuse Russian nationalism with German National Socialism. Although you and Sanziro really can only be convinced by an automaton in the head.
      It would be curious to see how both of you would lead yourself under the bullets.
      1. Sanzyro
        Sanzyro 11 September 2011 17: 33 New
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        SIGN OUT ... wink
        1. Aktium
          Aktium 11 September 2011 17: 39 New
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          Only after you, "comrade." wink I’m curious to see your “October” pearls. Where else will I see such a panopticon?
          1. Sanzyro
            Sanzyro 11 September 2011 18: 34 New
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            Take a look in the mirror ... That's for sure - PANOPTICUM ...
            1. Banshee 11 September 2011 23: 56 New
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              Quote: Akcium
              .You, the "comrade" Banshee turns out to be a supporter of the theory of the existence of people and bad people. And probably you consider yourself a "superman"? And someone, in your opinion, is "Untermensch"?


              I disappoint, I guess. Yes it is. The one who spits in the past.

              Quote: Akcium
              And your eyes are probably blue, "blond beast"? And the blood of the first group, with a positive Rh factor?


              The fourth is negative. Not blond. And the eyes are not blue.

              Quote: Akcium
              And what is the ChSV? And how to raise it?


              How to raise a sense of self grandeur? Yes, that's it ...

              Quote: Akcium
              I, unlike you, know more and have lived longer


              Who measured? What is the measure? Not sure of the first or second.

              Quote: Akcium
              Yours with Sanziro, Bolshevik nonsense, I am interested in as much as I am interested in the nature of human stupidity. You think patterns (two or three) on the basis of which you distribute people to right and wrong.


              Well, you and one template, apparently, enough.

              Quote: Akcium
              By the way, do not confuse Russian nationalism with Germanic national socialism.


              I do not confuse, if that. I know. That's just what it is?

              Quote: Akcium
              It would be curious to see how both of you would lead yourself under the bullets.


              Yes, normally led, when I had to. No worse than others. And I will have to - I will lead the same way.

              And it is interesting for me to admire such people, who are wondering where they are, just to amuse themselves. But, I confess, with great pleasure I would have looked through the scope. And more practical and more familiar.
              1. Aktium
                Aktium 12 September 2011 02: 40 New
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                Well, I see. Another Asian in the service of the world revolution. Unite the proletarians of all countries. I don’t suffer from megalomania - if anything. They saw the sight obviously in some kind of computer toy. Otherwise, they wouldn’t argue like that. per year). At the expense of fortunetellers - that's right. There are plenty of such "beauties" everywhere. You are no exception. We turned the site into a Bolshevik settler.
                Unlike some, I have blue eyes and white hair. And the first positive blood type. I hate red ones since childhood. Although I admit that, under Brezhnev, life was, in principle, not bad (a little worse than in 1914), the blockade of Leningrad for me was only an episode of the great tragedy of the Great War, but not at all "an unprecedented feat in the history of mankind." If it weren’t for the Bolshevik scum, there wouldn’t be any war. And history needs to be taught, simply because we would know and draw conclusions. Here, every red scum calls for joining the Communist Party and discuss options for conducting red propaganda. In general, it’s not interesting Ordinary verbiage. I noticed an interesting thing. All conversations on the Internet do not lead to anything. The only result, as far as I know, in my opinion, in 1998, the Party of Right Forces, Khakamada, Nemtsov and Kiriyenko was created - via the Internet (I learned from the news on the "box").
                And finally, as long as I have time, you, the “comrade” Banshee and “t-shch” Sanziro, on this site, will have an opponent in my face.
                Yes, one more thing. Age is measured by years if you didn't know.
                1. zczczc
                  zczczc 12 September 2011 02: 57 New
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                  Aktium, ascribing to himself the right to look at historical events from the outside, and not from the inside, as we, unsubscribe ourselves from our own people.

                  Knowledge without the carrier of this knowledge is nothing, and the interpretation of historical facts does not stand up to you.
                  1. Banshee 12 September 2011 23: 04 New
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                    Troll Tiny. And with a bunch of complexes, exposing them. Yes, and with the national socialist inclinations.

                    Quote: Akcium
                    Yes, one more thing. Age is measured by years if you didn't know.


                    Count up, in the know.

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                    Another Asian in the service of the world revolution.


                    Not at all, baby. Much more European you will be. And not in the service of the world revolution, you rezhunchik mine, in the service of his country.

                    Quote: zczczc
                    I do not suffer from delusions of grandeur - if that


                    Yeah, that's so unnoticed. This is not mania, these are your hormones, baby.

                    Quote: Akcium
                    Unlike some, I have blue eyes and white hair.


                    Well, okay. Tommy "Mein Kampf" under the pillow, a portrait of St. Adolf on the nightstand. "Blond beast" that hates the Bolshevik scum. Come on come on ... oppose ... trololo.
                    1. Aktium
                      Aktium 13 September 2011 12: 34 New
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                      “Comrade” Banshee is hysterical. “Comrade” Banshee is drooling. Well, that's right when there are no reasons to switch to insults.
                      Polite treatment is taken for "infancy" and "complexes" - the typical behavior of the boorish proletariat.
                      There is a portrait of Adolf. Not only on the bedside table, but on the wall. Mine Kampf is not under the pillow, but on the bookshelf (by the way, next to Capital and Lenin’s PSS, as well as Charles Darwin’s Origin of Species by Natural Selection). Year of release).
                      Hormones are a good thing. Without them, you know, nowhere. You probably don’t have them at all. It’s such a “sexless” creature. Like a cherub.
                      Here are some "personalities" who talk about "budenok" from the closet and "we will show you all." Yes, you will not show anything. Your time, comrades, is over.
                      All that you are capable of is rudeness on the network. I am glad that there is Internet (the "Masons" and the CIA are on the alert - they confused the Bolsheviks on their networks).
                      The decrepit Gennady Andreyevich and the no less decrepit Communist Party numbering 450000 sixty-year-old old men and women who grew up with relative "corn" prosperity and "stagnation of developed socialism." Spirit is not enough.
                    2. zczczc
                      zczczc 13 September 2011 15: 35 New
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                      Banshee, about megalomania - this is the Aktsium said, but not me actually :)))
                      1. Banshee 13 September 2011 23: 13 New
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                        I'm wildly sorry ... I did not understand how it happened.
                  2. ytqnhfk
                    ytqnhfk 13 September 2011 13: 46 New
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                    Rusichi, but is it possible to throw it out of the site altogether? I mean the Aktsium? !!! As they say from words to deeds!
                    1. zczczc
                      zczczc 13 September 2011 15: 39 New
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                      ytqnhfkand why, let drool. Ignore him and that’s it.
                      He has a disease - Goebbels brain, the fourth stage, terminal.

                      If he ever does something for the country with his own hands (even though a fire helps to extinguish it, I’m not talking about protecting the country), then he will cut his throat like he is now. It’s just not ripe yet, the young tiger ...
                    2. Aktium
                      Aktium 13 September 2011 17: 34 New
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                      Neutral, please report to me the site’s administration. “Rusich” turned up. My stomach ached with laughter.
                      1. ytqnhfk
                        ytqnhfk 13 September 2011 18: 16 New
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                        The head does not give rest to the feet - they say and you have a stomach - a bear’s disease means. And I can’t complain. I specifically proposed to remove YOUR presence from this site due to the humiliation of the feelings of those present and anti-moral agitation with my opinion distorted to such an extent that YOUR presence is disgusting !!!
                2. ytqnhfk
                  ytqnhfk 13 September 2011 11: 10 New
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                  YOU everywhere (in my opinion) seem "red". Do you have mania?
                  1. Banshee 13 September 2011 15: 20 New
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                    No, he's just a little teenager. Hence, all this reasoning and boasting with the color of eyes and hair. And a blood group (although I don’t understand what it is, even if it’s killed). The neo-fascists invented something new. Rh division.

                    The paradox is that I am capable not only of rudeness in the network. In life, oddly enough, doing the real thing. Yes, one, but for me personally this is still enough. But I do it, and I do it so that there are no people like you.

                    Our time has not expired, woe to you. And 20 will not expire yet, or even more. And all these 20 years, you can be sure YOUR time will not come. And by that time either you really grow up and understand the wretchedness of your inclinations (hopefully), or you will be crippled. Precedents happen. In the end of April.

                    So, you can say anything, Aryan, but since you are blond (like Hitler), tall (like Goebbels), slender and educated (like Goering) and have the 1 + blood group (Like Eichmann), then remember how it all ended true aryans.

                    Mein Kampf next to Lenin ... well, well ... you next to another "History of the Great Patriotic War" set. And remember that there were no Bolsheviks there. Not the communists. Everyone was there: Russians, Ukrainians, Kazakhs (oh, these Asians are in the service, yes?), Belarusians, Tatars, Georgians ... Citizens of the USSR.
                    And their descendants will not give such as you "lean on." Stay calm.
                    1. figwam 13 September 2011 15: 31 New
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                      Amazing debate from scratch.
                      Banshee,
                      these youngsters don't give any arguments and proofs, just the more shit they pour, the more they pay attention to it and hold on, they pissed in their brains, here's my conclusion. Bonus to you is Banshee.
                    2. Aktium
                      Aktium 13 September 2011 17: 49 New
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                      Worth. "History of the Second World War." Since I am interested in military operations on both sides. Adolf Hitler had brown hair and blue eyes. And how are you not the Bolsheviks? Have you renounced the ideas of Comrade Lenin and Comrade Stalin? Or how did Gennady Andreyevich decide in 1991 to “give Lenin a lift”? The Volga-Tatar Legion Idel-Ural fought against the Bolsheviks. The ROA fought against the Bolsheviks. General Krasnov (a Russian military general who fought in World War I on the German front) fought against the Bolsheviks. The Cossacks fought against the Bolsheviks. The Chechens were on both sides, and Georgians, Latvians, Estonians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and many many others.
                      You probably hope to organize a new “socialist revolution” in 2017. But this is bad luck: the German General Staff and Jewish bankers will not give you money anymore. So you already threw them once. And the Chinese "comrades" do not need you - they need the resources of the Far East and Siberia. Yes, and scumbags, such as Yashka Sverdlov, Felix Dzerzhinsky and Leiba Trotsky, you also do not. And you can only dream of "comrades", in impotent anger, tapping the keyboard with "labor fingers".
  12. mitrich
    mitrich 10 September 2011 21: 42 New
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    Gaining courage, I ask: when was the blockade of Leningrad broken? And is it possible to consider Operation Iskra a breakthrough in the blockade? Maybe someone will explain from those who understand it, specifically answering the question: WHEN it was broken through. Thank you in advance.
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      The whole question is what is considered a fact of breaking the blockade.
      In general, in the TV series "Unknown War" or in our "Great Patriotic War" (available on rutracker.org) the film about Leningrad is very detailed. With the chronicle, numbers and other things. Recommend.
    2. irony
      irony 12 September 2011 01: 59 New
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      It is quite possible.
    3. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 13 September 2011 13: 42 New
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      January 27th! Why I remember well, my father was born on this day but not only !!!
  13. SVD
    SVD 13 September 2011 13: 23 New
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    Akium said:

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    If not for the Bolshevik scum, then there would have been no war.
    .


    The babble of the insane.
    Hitler went to war on the USSR to DESTROY the entire population of the USSR. In order to clear a place for the German nation, use the resources of the USSR. And it was the Jewish capitalist countries that secretly supported Hitler. And even if the Aktiyum is three times fair-haired - what is prescribed at birth - whether you are Belarusian, Ukrainian, Estonian or Russian - you are nothing to the Hitlers - a slave. This is the main ideology of the Natsiks.
    1. Banshee 13 September 2011 15: 22 New
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      God be with him ... A schoolboy trying to prove his worth to himself. Troll, no more. Nadergal quotes from the Internet and trying to operate them. Grow - smarter. Maybe.
      1. Aktium
        Aktium 13 September 2011 17: 54 New
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        Banshee, you are repeating this again. Have you decided to tackle self-hypnosis?
      2. Sanzyro
        Sanzyro 14 September 2011 10: 31 New
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        Alas! Will not grow wiser ... The case is already clinical and the changes have gone too far! It is sad that in the country the most affected in the Second World War is such an opinion and such judgments about those extremely unambiguous events! And there are more and more such orcs ... Moreover, they are all literate and weak-minded, it seems impossible to name them, but the logical component of their judgments carries such a flawed and perverted mechanism for understanding elementary concepts, I would even say - biologically elementary, that creeps in doubt ... But is it not aliens? With their statements, they shock the basis of the foundations - the instinct of self-preservation !!! How can it be good that threatened you with destruction ?? Physical !! Such things are easily understood even by reptiles that cannot be trained!
        1. irony
          irony 14 September 2011 13: 48 New
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          This is a brainwashing product that has been carried out with Western support for the past 20 years. I can’t imagine what my classmates would do to me, tell me a tenth of what this brownish “comrade” has said here. Partaigenoss, b ..!
          1. Aktium
            Aktium 14 September 2011 14: 59 New
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            To your ancestors, "comrade" Iron, the brain was washed for 70 years.
        2. Aktium
          Aktium 14 September 2011 14: 55 New
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          I’ve already begun to collect a collection of “comradely” pearls. Soon I will send Mikhail Zadornov: “a flawed and perverse mechanism for UNDERSTANDING elementary CONCEPTS”; “biologically elementary (concepts)”; “with their utterances they will SHOCK BASES for the BASIS”.
          It resembles Vyshinsky’s speech in the trial of “enemies of the people.” Only more illiterate.
          1. PSih2097 14 September 2011 14: 58 New
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            I’ll send Mikhail Zadornov soon

            Do not forget to send your statements there too ...
          2. Sanzyro
            Sanzyro 14 September 2011 22: 15 New
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            “Such things are easily understood even by reptilian that is not trainable!” - And is it clear enough and competently ??
    2. Aktium
      Aktium 13 September 2011 17: 53 New
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      Yes, yes. And also the German "fascists", ate Soviet children for breakfast and washed down with the blood of Soviet virgins. Another "red patriot" having read Bolshevik tales.
      1. ytqnhfk
        ytqnhfk 15 September 2011 09: 34 New
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        Well done, come on !!! Listen to the hunt YOUR conclusions or except ideologies in your ballot box is not ?? !!! OWN what cockroaches ??? WHAT is yours in your head ?? NOW YOU ARE RIGHT AND YOU CALL YOU NOW !!! YOU ARE GREEN AND DO NOT REASONABLE A CHILD and dad didn’t flog you? Or, on the contrary, did you put such love to the Bolsheviks on your head ?? Or is it even more interesting ???
        1. Aktium
          Aktium 15 September 2011 12: 37 New
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          The ballot box is in your head, you have a "comrade" Neutral. I’m watching, you are "comrades, doing" self-affirmation "here and there’s nothing more for you. Some emotions. Not a single fact. As for the blockade of Leningrad, which is used to this article. at meetings of Bolshevik sophistry.
    3. Aktium
      Aktium 14 September 2011 15: 01 New
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      If "went to war in the USSR to DESTROY" the entire population of the USSR, then why didn’t they destroy everyone in the occupied territories? Where is the logic, "comrade"?
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 14 September 2011 15: 08 New
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        Aktium,
        did not have time, but made every effort to do so.
        1. Aktium
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          Yeah, they made it so that they allowed the NKVD to clean up the territory instead. How many people went to the camps only because they lived peacefully and quietly in the "occupied territories"?
      2. PSih2097 14 September 2011 15: 10 New
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        The OST plan is also an invention of the Bolsheviks-communists?
        1. Aktium
          Aktium 15 September 2011 12: 40 New
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          The Belomor-Canal Plan. One and a half million died from exhaustion at the construction of this fucking Bolshevik project.
      3. ytqnhfk
        ytqnhfk 15 September 2011 09: 36 New
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        The Nazi sees good in his own way, well, and they didn’t have time to reach his hands !!
    4. ballian
      ballian 15 September 2011 09: 52 New
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      Quote: SVD
      And it was the Jewish capitalist countries that secretly supported Hitler.

      Still not tired of lying about "countries supported"?
      Then, in your opinion, it turns out that the "Jewish-capitalist" countries supported Stalin - it was they who built him in the 30 industry.
  14. SVD
    SVD 13 September 2011 20: 14 New
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    Akium said:

    Yes, yes. And also the German "fascists", ate Soviet children for breakfast and washed down with the blood of Soviet virgins. Another "red patriot" having read Bolshevik tales.


    These same "Bolshevik tales" are quite simple to prove by simply digging through the archives. Hitler's directives, shorthand speeches by Goebbels, etc. - This, of course, is the "Bolshevik tales." Better Bolshevik tales are better than the current anti-Russian propaganda, in which you sit at the very end of the neck!
    1. PSih2097 13 September 2011 23: 28 New
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      Yes, yes. And also the German "fascists", ate Soviet children for breakfast and washed down with the blood of Soviet virgins. Another "red patriot" having read Bolshevik tales.

      Yes, he goes along poh ... at all, sits and expresses himself, instead of jelly brains ... in short, the troll.
      1. Aktium
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        I really don’t give a damn about you, "comrade" Crazy.
    2. Aktium
      Aktium 14 September 2011 14: 57 New
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      Prove at least one case of cannibalism by German soldiers and I apologize to you.
      1. Joker
        Joker 14 September 2011 15: 15 New
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        Aktsium'u

        Maybe they didn’t eat, but atrocities were unequivocal. Village Breeder, Bryansk region. When the Germans captured the village, all the men were shot, my great-grandfather was a World War I veteran, escaped when the village was burnt (approx. Apparently without people) "left" under cover of smoke, most were less fortunate. In neighboring villages, people were driven into one building (stable, church, etc.) and set on fire. Some of the children escaped, they threw them out the windows, whom they did not shoot, those who survived and told.
        They massacred us, including civilians, do not deny, this is a fact.

        Listen guy, finish the heresy and go talk with your parents, grandfathers - grandmothers, if anyone is alive. They will tell you a real story based on memories from their lives.

        As for your worship of Hitler, you know to honor the one who wanted to thoroughly cleanse your country (no matter who pushed him to this war, this is a topic worthy of a separate discussion), about the same in my subjective opinion, what to do with shit.

        I don’t intend to continue the dialogue, just think.
        1. Aktium
          Aktium 15 September 2011 12: 49 New
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          In Mine Campf, AG quotes just one phrase about Russia, more precisely about the Russian people. "The great people fell into slavery of Bolshevism."
          In 1941, the NKVD authorities decided, on behalf of Comrade Stalin, to organize a guerrilla movement in the "occupied territories." But the trouble is. The "collective farmers" didn’t want to fight the Germans and run through the forests. Then a simple two special NKVD detachments were thrown into the "occupation zone" of genius. One was partisan type, and the second was German type (in full uniform). The "German" detachment burned the village with the inhabitants and "accidentally" left a couple of "witnesses" , usually children. Children ran to a neighboring village and told everyone that “evil uncle fascists” had killed everyone and burned the village. “Special forces then“ changed shoes ”into partisans. Outraged (deceived) people went into partisan detachments. Here is a fact for you.
          1. Joker
            Joker 15 September 2011 12: 58 New
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            Of course, of course, they brought us prosperity and civilization. Just like now, the Pindos are spreading democracy to the whole world, that some that others are directly altruists.

            PS the village was occupied by the Germans shortly after the withdrawal of our units, it was a front. Accordingly, there is no talk of any castings. Yes, and not before that was in the 41st. But the level of patriotism was incomparably higher. According to the recollections of many veterans, shortly after the outbreak of the war, queues formed in military commissariats.

            But your brains are thoroughly washed, I see I see that it makes no sense to prove. Well, believe that the creators of democracy throw you up.
            1. Aktium
              Aktium 15 September 2011 13: 33 New
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              You apparently washed them even more. German field units did not participate in “punitive operations.” Dig it on your nose. So either you are lying or your great-grandfather has mixed something up. And you will tell Sanziro about the lines to the military commissariats. Or Banshee. Of course there were queues. At the medical examination. Because the order came out. All non-specialists should be sent to the front. And machine tools and women with children can work.
              By the way, the German industry, until the end of the war, worked in PEACE TIME mode, with an 8-hour working day and with two days off. And you tell me about some kind of superiority and "atrocities" here. People from the "occupied territories" were eager to work to Germany. Among other things, those who did not get into the Soviet zone remained in Germany. And those who were not lucky got to the Gulag camps as "Nazi collaborators." However, like most Red Army soldiers, were in German captivity. The poor content of the prisoners was based on the fact that they did not have “prisoner of war status”, since Comrade Stalin refused to sign the international convention on “Prisoner of war status.” English, American, and French prisoners of war decently. And the so-called “Pindos,” whom you all hate, raised Soviet industry in the 30s, supplied arms, non-ferrous metals, and food under Lend-Lease even half a year after the end of the World War. And if not ameri Canadian and Canadian wheat, the cards would not have been canceled in 1947. These are the facts. And your Bolshevik drooling is interesting only to yourself. "What poor, unfortunate we are, take pity on us." Tra la la. Instead of moaning - raise your mother Russia, and do not dissolve snot, dreaming that “We will still show everyone” and threatening soft fists to America and the whole West, which, in general, you owe to the fact that you’re at least surfing the Internet and not with wooden bills.
      2. Sanzyro
        Sanzyro 14 September 2011 22: 27 New
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        What do you want ?? So that they also ate ?? No, well, it’s already at all, no way ... You should have an appointment with the good Dr. Mengele. He would have checked you properly ... On the subject of mental sanity.
        1. Aktium
          Aktium 15 September 2011 12: 52 New
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          Sanziro, your emotions make me think about what you ate as a Snickers kid. Watch less TV and read more good books.
          1. Sanzyro
            Sanzyro 16 September 2011 09: 43 New
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            From such statements, really only emotions ... I also want to say a lot of words, but only the prepositions “B” and “ON” are censored ... But in my childhood I didn’t have sneakers, unlike yours! What burned down, Troll-baby ?? tongue
            1. Aktium
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              Hmm. This is not treated.
  15. Aktium
    Aktium 15 September 2011 13: 06 New
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    Joker, my grandmother worked in the hospital, she told me such a thing about which the soldiers were raving raving, you won’t read in any books. My grandfather fought in 1941 near Moscow, thank God for a short time, they commited for wounds. So, the NKVD part was devoured from they had a belly and a gun outfit. Simple infantry units wore WINTER in boots with windings or in a tarpaulin and ate what God had sent .. With frostbite they lost up to 30% of the personnel. They went on the attack without fire support. The NKVD gunners fired only at theirs. This parade on Red Square shows what they are all in short fur coats and well-fed. In fact, most of the units sat half-starving and fought only because there was nowhere to go. Soviet punishers in the back. German positions in front. And so to die. Among other things, the blockade of Leningrad could have been lifted back in 1942. Only comrade Stalin, there was a zapadlo. For him, it turned out to be more important for the city with his name to "clear" from the 6th Paulus Army.
    1. Joker
      Joker 15 September 2011 14: 13 New
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      About the village.

      And where did you get that it was a planned punitive operation? Just the combat units went "to enslave the eastern barbarians."

      About the barriers of the troops. There were not so many of them that you can attach to each part. And there are different cases of war.

      As for the atrocities, apparently nobody was under occupation.

      Correct about stalingrad:

      On our continent, due to the rotation of the earth, the western shores are higher than the eastern ones. In the region of Stalingrad, the height differences reached 20-30 meters if I am not mistaken. It was an excellent springboard for the German forces, having received which it would be possible to continue the offensive in the oil-bearing regions of the Caucasus, in my opinion it is quite obvious.

      And after such opuses it’s not worth talking about your higher education in the military. At best, an ignoramus, at worst an impudent liar.

      Your position is clear to me, I don’t see any point in proving something.
  16. Aktium
    Aktium 15 September 2011 16: 13 New
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    What are the "western shores"? What is the "height difference"? At least a textbook or something bothered to read.
    A separate group of troops was operating in the Caucasus direction in the central part of the Main Caucasian Range.
    The Stalingrad front was on the other side altogether. East direction. What kind of "excellent bridgehead" can be created in the steppe (ONE German army stood, and THREE FRONTS were created against it).
    The combat units will not linger in the village in order to “enslave the eastern barbarians” by burning its inhabitants. Because the movement schedule is violated and the entire tactical plan will fly to hell.
    And you finally decide where the German army went: “enslave the eastern barbarians” or “destroy everyone without exception”?
    "Atrocities" .....
    In late June and early June, 1041, the SNK and the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks adopted decisions on the organization of the struggle in the rear of the "invaders." By the end of 1941, more than 2000 partisan detachments were in the rear of the German troops. Special groups of the NKVD and underground organizations of the Bolsheviks who didn’t manage to get out of the cities before being captured by German troops. They were confronted with the “tasks of preserving FAITH in the inviolability of the Soviet regime, strengthening the morale of the people and strengthening the struggle in the occupied territories.” Here are a couple more facts. ".One slogans and meaningless excuses.