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Tbilisi and Moscow can completely sever relations

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Tbilisi and Moscow can completely sever relationsRelations between Moscow and Tbilisi can be broken completely. The reason for which may be the sale at auction in Moscow of the former guest house "Tbilisi", which the Georgian authorities consider to be their property, writes "Kommersant".


As stated by the Deputy Foreign Minister of Georgia Nino Kalandadze, история with the building in Skatertny Lane, which “was illegally confiscated in 2006 year”, is a “flagrant violation” of the Vienna Convention.

“In accordance with the Vienna Convention, the controversial issue related to the hotel building did not reach the court proceedings, although there is a real dispute through the exchange of notes. The Georgian side, with the help of the Swiss embassy, ​​sent 26 July a note demanding the building to return, but the reaction was strange: there was no answer, and at the end of August it became known that it was taken out for auction. This is illegal, ”she explained.

Kalandadze drew attention to the “strange coincidence”: “The building was put up for auction at the moment when the Georgia’s interests section on Ostozhenka Street cut off electricity.”

After the war in August 2008 and the break of diplomatic relations initiated by Georgia, Moscow and Tbilisi agreed that a “Georgian interests section” would open to resolve consular issues at the Swiss embassy in Russia, and a “Russian interests section” at the Swiss embassy in Georgia. Employees of the Russian consular service work in the building that the Russian Federation built at the beginning of the 2000-s in the center of Tbilisi. Their Georgian colleagues in Moscow do not have such property and are forced to rent a room.

A source at the Georgian Foreign Ministry said that if the "interests section of Georgia" is still to be evicted from the building on Ostozhenka, Tbilisi will "immediately take adequate measures." Perhaps, Tbilisi, accusing Moscow of violating the Vienna Convention, annuls the tripartite agreement of Russia, Switzerland and Georgia on “sections of interest” at the Swiss embassies, withdraws its consular officers from Moscow and expels Russian diplomats.
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  1. almost demobil
    almost demobil 8 September 2011 05: 47 New
    +1
    I believe that there will be nothing scary in this. There is no relationship with rodents, and yes, in fact, we don’t. Enemy country and we must treat it accordingly. Now someone will say that here is another belligerent and adamant warrior and that the whole trouble in the rodent leadership, and the rodents themselves are soft and fluffy. I will say this, no one stood over these killers, this rabble during the capture of Tskhinval and did not force them to shoot unarmed people! Nobody will ever forgive them for the massacre of civilians and our peacekeepers. So a filthy broom!
    1. Professor
      Professor 8 September 2011 12: 50 New
      -1
      Well, the damned Saakashvili will leave, how will you build relations with the brotherly (without sarcasm, really brotherly Christian people who fought side by side Russia against common enemies) people after such attacks? Have all Georgians become rodents? In the Caucasus, such things are not forgotten.
      1. oper66
        oper66 8 September 2011 13: 38 New
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        YES NO PROFESSOR, this people has never been brotherly, if we consider its grave existence during the USSR, then they have already proved their brotherly affection for South Ossetia to Russians, or there were sisters and showed love while the brothers were sitting at home
      2. cVM
        cVM 8 September 2011 23: 36 New
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        will sashakvili leave? this is interesting, sakashvili precariously coped with anti-Russian propaganda
  2. raf
    raf 8 September 2011 06: 45 New
    +4
    All disaster, Georgia will take adequate measures! Woe to us., Sorrow !! How frightened we are !! I climbed out of fear under the bed !!! Clowns!
    1. Professor
      Professor 9 September 2011 08: 04 New
      -2
      In vain irony. Georgia, like any subject of international law, can cause quite a bit of trouble. The story of Russia's entry into the WTO is an example of this.
      1. Old Cat Basilio
        Old Cat Basilio 9 September 2011 12: 02 New
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        By the way, professor, explain to me, a fool, what is the use for Russia of joining the WTO?
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 September 2011 12: 17 New
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          Although I am a "professor", I am not in economics. Therefore, I know about the dangers and benefits of joining the WTO only by hearsay. I only know that the Russian leadership really wants to go there.

          I am also reminded of another case when the private company NOGA (owner Nisim Gaon) delivered quite a few headaches to a huge country in Russia. And in the end, Russia satisfied all its requirements. So, Georgia can petty mischief within the framework of international laws, there will always be any human rights defenders.

          In 1991, the famous Russian history begins. In Moscow, Noga signs a contract for the supply of consumer goods in exchange for oil. Goods are delivered, but the Russian side suddenly stops paying. Later, Moscow will accuse Noga of overpricing the delivered goods. This charge is rejected by several arbitration courts that rule in favor of Nessim Gaon. Since impressive amounts are at stake, the company is unable to resist. Noga Hilton hotels are on sale, and the family has to leave the walls of the Geneva Palace.
          In March 2006, Noga's debts to French banks in the amount of $ 70 million were bought by an American businessman of Russian origin Alexander Kogan.
          1. Old Cat Basilio
            Old Cat Basilio 9 September 2011 12: 36 New
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            After all, I remember very well the times when these Noga clowns tried to arrest, for example, the Sedov barque, planes at the Le Bourget salon and the collection of paintings by the Pushkin Museum. Uncles, of course, have a taste!
      2. raf
        raf 9 September 2011 13: 43 New
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        By the way, at the expense of the WTO, Russia will still not be allowed to go there! Even if you come to an agreement with Georgia, there are still the Baltic states. With this, the WTO will be fooling for a long time! The WTO is a “sweet carrot” with which Russia, or rather the Russian leadership, is trying to force the Americans to do what they want!
  3. kagorta
    kagorta 8 September 2011 06: 52 New
    +1
    All the same, it is interesting, is it just a squeak of rodents, or they are shemmed, regardless of laws and treaties?
  4. gmajor
    gmajor 8 September 2011 07: 21 New
    +2
    This is the Americans are behind them and pushing yelp at Russia.
  5. sancho
    sancho 8 September 2011 09: 50 New
    +2
    The dog barks, the wind carries.
  6. figwam
    figwam 8 September 2011 11: 40 New
    +2
    And what does the Vienna Convention say about the Grad shooting of a city with children and women?
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 8 September 2011 19: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      And what does the Vienna Convention say about the Grad shooting of a city with children and women?

      The Vienna Convention generally prohibits the use of multiple launch rocket systems against settlements. But remembering the Vienna Convention is accepted in the West primarily when they are not satisfied with the local authorities (Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan), which in fact does not interfere with the use of cluster bombs, phosphorus bombs on cities themselves.
      1. Superduck
        Superduck 8 September 2011 22: 23 New
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        Or Pinocchio by Bamut ...
      2. Old Cat Basilio
        Old Cat Basilio 9 September 2011 12: 22 New
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        Sorry, APASUS, but in general the Vienna Convention of 1961 is one of the main legal acts in the field of diplomatic law. There is not a single word about multiple launch rocket systems.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 9 September 2011 21: 02 New
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          [quote = Old Cat Basilio] There are no layers about volley fire systems
          It depends on what the phrase Vienna Convention means.
          Vienna Convention is a series of documents
          (there are hundreds of them) and they are regulated by diverse activities. Starting from Diplomatic Law and ending with nuclear physics and the ozone hole.
          I specifically refer to the (Convention on the Prohibition or Restriction of the Use of Specific Conventional Weapons that May Be Considered to cause excessive damage or have non-selective effect (1981), and the protocols to this Convention
  7. raf
    raf 8 September 2011 11: 52 New
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    I know what adequate measures Georgia will take! Saakashvili Medvedev, on the TV screen, will smear his face with a nose from a nose !!!
  8. Banshee
    Banshee 8 September 2011 12: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: gmajor
    This is the Americans are behind them and pushing yelp at Russia.


    There is no doubt about it.

    Quote: kagorta
    All the same, it is interesting, is it just a squeak of rodents, or they are shemmed, regardless of laws and treaties?


    Here you are, that's right, and give everything ... Immediately all - this is in the "yellow press" ...

    In fact, claim the property in a country with which there is no and is not expected diplomatic relations -.

    "The reason for which may be the sale at auction in Moscow of the former guest house" Tbilisi ", which the Georgian authorities consider to be their property."

    Question: And whose property does Moscow consider it? And who has the rights to this building, confirmed by relevant documents? That way and I can say that the building number 23 on Rustaveli Avenue in Tbilisi is mine ...

    “Kalandadze drew attention to the“ strange coincidence ”:“ The building was put up for auction at the moment when the Georgia’s interests section on Ostozhenka Street cut off electricity. ”

    On the one hand, it was ugly, on the other, they did not listen to the other side again. maybe the accident happened, and this is a temporary outage. Maybe they forgot to pay their electricity bill? wink

    Such a one-sided approach cannot cause anything but bewilderment.
  9. voin-xnumx
    voin-xnumx 8 September 2011 13: 49 New
    +1
    When Tskhinvali bombed no conventions and rights were remembered. And now remembered about civilized methods. Let them come and try to pick up.
  10. Professor
    Professor 8 September 2011 20: 12 New
    -6
    I wonder what the Georgians were knocked out of Tskhinvali. Not slingshots ...
    1. slan
      slan 8 September 2011 21: 47 New
      +1
      By the way, not with vacuum bombs and uranium shells.
      Fortunately, this nation of man purse would have fled from firecrackers.
      1. Professor
        Professor 8 September 2011 22: 55 New
        -5
        For 3 of the year, I’ve been looking for lists of 2 of thousands of dead civilians in Tskhinvali whom the Russian leadership spoke about ...
        1. slan
          slan 8 September 2011 23: 02 New
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          Somewhat off topic, agree. And here are the preliminary estimates of the victims of Georgian aggression? How does this relate to the “humanity” of weapons used in counterattack?
          1. Professor
            Professor 8 September 2011 23: 22 New
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            And were these blows? (Uv forum users, do not hang me immediately in the square). How many times have obviously lied to us about this war, it’s hard to believe anyone.
            1. slan
              slan 8 September 2011 23: 54 New
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              A question answered by a Professor))
              Hailstones for residents? Yes, for sure it wasn’t, IMHO this should be considered a journalistic allegory. But there was a military operation to establish control over the city; no one denies it anymore. And for me, so 15 dead are more than enough. By the way, what did Israel make because of one prisoner?
            2. ytqnhfk
              ytqnhfk 9 September 2011 14: 10 New
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              Good question, it’s not for nothing that you have such an avatar. Turn everything upside down and then condemn! You would turn to the overseas intelligence agencies why they do not pay you at least half the rate!
        2. Superduck
          Superduck 8 September 2011 23: 04 New
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          It sometimes seems to me that not to mention the “Grads in the sleeping peaceful Tskhinvali” is prohibited by Russian law. I will not argue for the use of Gradov by Georgians, but this cliche has already tired me tightly.
          1. slan
            slan 8 September 2011 23: 19 New
            +2
            Normal propaganda. In the 21st century, there is no way without it, otherwise competitors will not leave chances.
            They practically don’t put meat in sausage, but do you want you to be told the truth on TV in prime time, and you probably would like to do it without advertising?))
            1. Superduck
              Superduck 8 September 2011 23: 40 New
              0
              No, I don’t have a TV set either, thank God.
              1. raf
                raf 9 September 2011 13: 46 New
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                I’m thinking, maybe I can throw my own out too ?!
  11. kagorta
    kagorta 8 September 2011 23: 25 New
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    Maybe look bad, I quickly found a list of 365 names on the Internet. Yes, it doesn’t matter, with the death of the first peacekeeper Sukashvili signed a sentence for himself. And only the Pindos with the Europeans saved him from our notice righteous anger. Or you do not agree with this statement of the question.
    1. Professor
      Professor 8 September 2011 23: 39 New
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      I partially agree, and about the number of victims I also found (unfortunately, this is a lot). However, not 2000.
  12. cVM
    cVM 8 September 2011 23: 38 New
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    another provocation, it was necessary to take Georgia in 2008
  13. Old Cat Basilio
    Old Cat Basilio 8 September 2011 23: 44 New
    -1
    Funny guys, these Georgians! We remembered the Vienna Convention !!!
  14. Goldpirat
    Goldpirat 9 September 2011 01: 23 New
    +1
    Here I sit and think, either to write sho or syudy, or to pass by, but when I saw a cruel battle, I decided to fit into a fight, but it's just a joke that since I am writing from Tbilisi, whatever I write on this stupid news, they will still ignore me.
    And about the war, you now look like three blind men who are trying to describe an elephant, when one touches the tail and says that it is a rope, the other touches the leg and says that it is a tree, and the third touches the trunk and says that it is a snake. You are not arguing about anything now, he said, I heard something there, but in the end there’s no sense, the breakfast for your patriots that your TV cooked for you, but if you don’t eat, turn off the gas, or you’re not a Russian patriot. Decide for yourself how it all looks from the outside.
    1. solodova
      solodova 9 September 2011 13: 11 New
      0
      Enlighten, if you know something, as you see, you have not been bombarded for this comment.
    2. ytqnhfk
      ytqnhfk 9 September 2011 14: 03 New
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      Write right away how the Russians CUTTED and killed Proud and defenseless Georgians what to keep quiet? Or didn’t it really be like that? The media immediately said (in Georgian, they also tried to sing American and American, but both ,,,,,,) GEORGIA ATTACK !!! ON GEORGIA and the actions were in Tskhinvali!
  15. nnz226
    nnz226 9 September 2011 01: 39 New
    -1
    Georgia will sever relations for good .... All Georgians (and Georgian citizens) who earn in Russia will be deported to their historical homeland, who will lose? Then the Slavic city of Teplisch (-Tiflis, -Tbilisi) will howl, having lost a significant share of its GDP, which consists of remittances of cargo workers ...
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 9 September 2011 09: 00 New
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      An interesting, and most importantly, very real option.
      A holy place is never empty, and the same Armenians will immediately take the place of Georgian traders. Will someone sell peaches unequivocally. Yes, and there are peaches.
      Several years ago, Georgian wines and brandies completely disappeared from sale. So what? No one died, replaced by other manufacturers. Who is better, who is worse. And I can’t remember more import articles from Georgia.
      I think this is one of those cases where the squad will not notice the loss of a fighter.
  16. Banshee
    Banshee 9 September 2011 08: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Goldpirat
    that's just a joke that since I am writing from Tbilisi, whatever I write on this stupid news will still spit me with minuses.


    Well, you try to start ...
    And on the cons themselves spit, they are not in the face you will arrive.

    No one takes your right to write your point of view on what happened then. A look from that side is no less valuable than from this one, because yes, in our world, in the conditions of information warfare, it would be nice to get acquainted with every opinion.

    Quote: Goldpirat
    for breakfast to the patriots who cooked your TV for you, but you won't eat, turn off the gas, or you are not a Russian patriot. Decide how it all looks from the outside.


    You might think that your TV was cooking soup consom ...
    If you don’t eat, we’ll turn off the gas ... I don’t know what categories you judge. Before that, thank God, they have not reached this point yet.
    And from the side it looks fine. We operate with the information that comes to us. And, naturally, there is more trust in the one that comes from our sources, because, no offense will be said, your media gave out something utterly utter at times.

    Despite the fact that you are clearly overdoing, I would be interested to see your point of view.