Failures and good luck of the western projects on the armored personnel carrier and BMP. 2014 Results of the Year

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After the Eurosatory exhibition, Renault organized a demonstration day at the gendarmerie training ground. This was the first opportunity to look at how Higard, VAB MkIII and BMX-01 (from left to right) are being tested.

“Terminated” is a sentence handed down by 24 on February 2014 of the year by US Secretary of Defense Hagel to the GCV (Ground Combat Vehicle — ground combat vehicle) program. For the second time in five years, the program aimed at replacing the Bradley BMP in parts of the US Army was canceled, leaving a thirty-year tracked vehicle as the basis of the motorized infantry units. Is the program closed?

But when some documents state that the army will set aside 50 million dollars in order to preserve the base of technical developments related to the GCV project, and 100 millions more will be spent in the relevant research centers of the American army, then questions arise. This most likely means that the army wants to use the experience accumulated to date in order to launch another program and return to the drawing board to develop a new infantry fighting vehicle. An alternative solution could be the organization of another round of testing machines of foreign development, some of them earned quite good marks during previous evaluation tests. Whatever happens, in 2021, the Bradley BMP will definitely celebrate its fortieth anniversary.

However, we should not forget that in the middle of 2013, the budget administration of the upper house issued four recommendations, two of them were recommended to look at foreign solutions to replace Bradley. These two recommended solutions were the Israeli Namer machine, which had a significant survival advantage over the GCV project while saving 9 billions of dollars, and the German Puma, which is considered a little more durable than the GCV, but definitely has a higher mortality rate. Its advantage lies in the ability to carry six paratroopers. This means that five Puma BMPs are needed to replace four Bradley, in which case the potential savings for taxpayers are estimated at 14,8 billion dollars. A more affordable option would be a further round of modernization of the Bradley BMP, which will make the honored veteran more resilient and lethal compared to the Ground Combat Vehicle project, but at the same time saving 19,8 billions of dollars. The reduced volume, the increase in mass and the lack of electrical power are the main problems that need to be addressed, although the increase in lethality also remains on the list of priorities.

Solving these problems would allow the Bradley BMP to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary at the beginning of the 2030-ies, and the cancellation of the GCV program is the last recommendation of the budget management. In addition, General Dynamics Land Systems’s decision not to participate in the program of the American Army’s Armored MultiPurpose Vehicle multipurpose armored vehicle, the purpose of which is to replace M113 in armored brigade groups, leaves BAE Systems as the sole participant, at least according to our information. GDLS of course lobbies for finalizing the requirements, but this, in the opinion of the army, could delay a key program.


The American Army's BMP Bradley lined up in a parking lot in the desert. Contrasting with a number of new cars carrying their service here, these cars will remain in service for a long time, since the terms of their replacement were postponed.



At the Eurosatory 2014 exhibition in Paris. The Piranha 3 + was designed, apparently, in accordance with the requirements of the Marine Corps, originally known as the Marines Personnel Carrier

How much the policy will affect this problem can only guess. What is indisputable is that if BAE Systems remains the only participant, then Bradley-based machines will be added to the army’s roster, since the company's offer is based on the existing tracked vehicle, which will be modified and developed in five versions: general purpose (522 machines), medical evacuation (790), sanitary (216), mortar installation (386) and control points (993). Who knows how much and what will be taken from the Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle program and possible further Bradley modernization, but it would definitely make sense to make parallel improvements in some areas in order to further reduce the one-time R & D expenditure, although purchasing a new machine, largely based on A foreign project remains an entirely plausible option.

Another big program on the west coast of the Atlantic was closed on December 20 2013 of the year. According to the highest ranks of the Canadian army, the potential offered by the upgraded LAV III machine is immeasurably higher than it appears (including investing in intelligence and information gathering tools, improving protection against land mines, etc.) makes the CCV project redundant. This is a significant blow to three bidders, namely GDLS-Canada, BAE Systems and Nexter, who offered Piranha 5, CV9035 MK III and VBCI respectively with the hope of mastering the contract for 108 machines plus 30 option worth 2 billion dollars.

Such an introduction could sound like a requiem for infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, but this is not entirely true, since several other programs are currently operating in the Old World. While the Danish program for replacing the BTR M113 is only slightly postponed, Poland is considering a new whole family of cars, Spain can revive its program on the 8x8 car (although perhaps in limited quantities), whereas Lithuania added itself to the list of potential buyers for the BMP by issuing a request offers at the end of July 2014. Asia and the Middle East are also very active, while the US Marine Corps again became interested in the Marines Personnel Carrier armored personnel carrier. The program is currently known as ACV Phase 1 Increment 1 (ACV 1.1), and the initial entry of vehicles into service is predicted around the year 2020.

The new Piranha 3 +, shown by General Dynamics European Land Systems at Eurosatory 2014, seems to fit perfectly into the ACV's Corps requirements. The size of the machine has been increased not only to get more volume for 13 people on board (internal volume increased from 13,5 m3 to 14 m3), but also to provide the necessary buoyancy. The length is increased from the 7,30 meter of the Piranha 3 to the 7,72 meter, while the width and height increased slightly, from 2,72 to the 2,78 meter and from 2,22 to the 2,25 meter. The tare weight has been increased from 13,4 to 16 tons, while the payload capacity is from 9,2 to 11 tons, while the total weight has increased from 22 to 25 tons (with the potential increase to 27 tons). In order to preserve the specific power required the installation of a new engine. New Caterpillar C13 engine with 520 horsepower compared to the old C9 engine, the 400 horsepower. allowed to increase the power density from 18,2 hp / t to 20,8 hp / t with a standard total mass. The new engine also develops torque 2300 Nm instead of 1600 Nm. For large masses, the Piranha 3 + can be equipped with a traditional suspension or a hydropneumatic suspension with adjustable ground clearance. Wider tires are also available, the 395 / 85R20 is the replacement option for standard 365 / 85R20. With regard to protection, information on the levels of protection is not presented, but it is clear that 3 + borrows the modular solution of Piranha 5 and its survivability to explosions should be close to the survivability of the latter. For the purpose of maintenance, access to sub-space was simplified, the kinematic scheme was unified with the kinematic scheme of the Striker and Canadian LAV-Upgrade machines. Although the machine that was exhibited at the Eurosatory exhibition did not have propellers installed, the amphibious version would have two screws and two steering rudders, safety valves, a cooling system for sea water, a water deflector, an air intake pipe (snorkel), and bilge pumps. The prototype, which was shown a week before the Paris exhibition, could accommodate a crew of three people and nine infantrymen (exactly as in the requirements of the marines) and was armed with a KongsbergM151 Protector combat module.

Failures and good luck of the western projects on the armored personnel carrier and BMP. 2014 Results of the Year

At Eurosatory 2014, GDLS Canada unveiled its newest version of Light Assault Vehicle with an installed remote-controlled medium caliber Konsberg tower.



Operating experience and testing, as well as comments and requirements of potential buyers led Nexter to develop a prototype, which includes all the modifications proposed so far.

12 June 2014, the company GDELS showed a delegation from the British Ministry of Defense Scout SV PMRS (Protected Mobility Reconnaissance Support - Protected Mobility Intelligence Support), a promising British army vehicle based on the Ascod 42 platform, which was then shown on the 2014 DVD. 3 September 2014 of the year General Dynamics UK finally issued a contract on Scout SV worth over 4 billion pounds, including 589 machines and initial support and training. Shipments will go from 2017 to 2020 year. Scout SV is manufactured in several versions: the Lockheed Martin turret with the CTAI 40-mm cannon includes a strike and reconnaissance version (198), an integrated fire support (23) option, ground observation (24), a radar sensor added to the latter; The reckless option, known as PMRS (Protected Mobility Reconnaissance Support), includes armed armored personnel carrier (59), control point (112), reconnaissance and surveillance (34), engineering intelligence (51), evacuation (38), and repair (50). All PMRS must also be equipped with the Kongsberg Protector module.

At the Eurosatory 2014, a new version of the Ascod chassis with a total tonnage of 31 was shown, with a potential for increasing mass to 35 tonnes. Its dimensions are almost the same as the original (the difference is only a few centimeters), the roof in the rear part is slightly raised to increase the size of the troop compartment. What has changed significantly is the net weight, which has dropped from 27,8 tons to almost 22 tons; this significantly increased the load capacity from 2,2 tons to 9 tons with standard weight gain and from 3,2 tons to 13 tons with the maximum allowable weight, although the power remains at the 721 hp. Rubber tracks provide significant mass savings compared to steel equivalents, although steel tracks can be worn if desired. The redesign also allowed the internal volume to be increased by 20%, now it is 12m3. In terms of protection, GDELS integrated a new mine action solution that was tested and certified in February 2014 by one of the NATO countries in a series of 4 explosive tests. The new mine protection is based on the high-strength bottom of the case and includes innovative devices that reduce the impact force on people and equipment (no further details were given). The reduction in its own weight was a result of not only the use of a rubber track, but also a new bulletproof protection, which is based on ceramics and additional panels covering 98% of the surface of the machine (levels of protection are also not disclosed). With its new chassis, the company hopes to be more aggressive in the tracked vehicle market.

Even at Eurosatory, General Dynamics showed the LAV Demonstrator. This is a modernized LAV III with an installed Kongsberg Protector turret armed with an ATK MK30 44 double-feed cannon. The machine is a further evolution of the Canadian Army's mass-produced BMP LAV 6.00 8x8. Chassis protection is enhanced by the adoption of a double V-shaped hull and bolted passive armor units. The appearance of the car has changed a bit, the engine compartment was raised in order to install the Caterpillar C9 engine with an 450 hp power. coupled with an automatic transmission ZF 7HP902, in the rear of the body also became slightly higher to get more volume for the landing. Powertrain has been upgraded to cope with greater power output. The Demonstrator has a ton of its own mass of 28,6 and can accommodate a crew of three people and seven paratroopers. By car installed improved suspension.

The deliveries of the VBCI car to the French army are in full swing, however, Nexter took into account the experience gained in Afghanistan and Mali by its national army customer, as well as the experience of working with potential customers from the Middle East, Canada and Denmark and many other countries. The result was the 8x8 VBCI Export BTR, shown at Eurosatory. Improved powertrain allows you to cope with the total mass of 32 tons, which in turn allows you to install the tower with an 105-mm gun. As for the power plant, the adoption of the new concept of the power unit allows full complete replacement in about one hour, which is almost half the time required for the standard VBCI. Refinement of the power plant also allowed to increase power by 10% to 600 hp. and power generation 570A. Standard VBCI Export cars received separate steering on the fourth bridge to reduce the turning diameter from 21 to the 18 meter. Further reduction of the turning diameter to 15-16 meters due to all four axles with steered wheels is offered as an option. The payload has increased significantly due to the reduction in net weight achieved through the adoption of a new set of protection based on new technologies. This made it possible to drop about a ton while maintaining full protection of the 4A / B Level from mines and directional land mines. The ergonomics were also improved due to the greater internal space and comfort. New energy absorbing seats, developed by Nexter Mechanics, are installed, most of the equipment is now attached to the machine itself in order to avoid the appearance of secondary projectiles when it is undermined. Hydraulic ramp lifts were removed from the car outside, changed the air conditioning scheme. Comfortable conditions for the driver were increased due to the greater space at the waist level, and the episcopes were moved from the hull to the hatch for a better view when driving with the hatch open. Also installed a system to improve the driver's vision day and night with a special display. The onboard windscreen has also been improved and now features a completely open architecture: an existing Ethernet network was added to the existing CanBus to distribute images from external cameras among crew members (all displays are now of the same type so that members of the crew can fully exchange images and information ). Nexter believes that the machine and the step-by-step improvements implemented in it presented at Eurosatory are a typical example of the product currently offered to the customer. The first test of the new standard VBCI Export will be the tests of this French 8x8 BMP by the British Army, which were scheduled for the autumn of 2014. This is due to the fact that the British army selects for itself a new car after the cancellation of the project on a universal car within the framework of the Future Rapid Effect System program. Over time, the new powertrain will be installed on French cars.



Although the new generation Patria’s car was not introduced at Eurosatory, its new name AMV XP was announced there (XP - Extra Performance, special features)



Advertising a new AMV XP car from Patria with Russian subtitles

“Following the obligations of the President in favor of the defense budget, I intend to start the Scorpion program. The first shipments will be held in 2018 for VBMR and in 2020 for EBRC. ” These are the words of French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Ledrian at the opening of the Eurosatory 2014 exhibition. Thus, the VBMR project will start soon. The BMX-01 risk reduction demo, developed by Renault Trucks Défense (RTD) in accordance with the 2010 contract for the year (another contract issued by Nexter gave birth to BMX-02), was first shown at an exhibition in Paris and then next week demonstrated his driving performance. A statement from the French arms procurement department says that the VBMR project will be developed by a group that includes the companies Nexter, Renault Trucks Defense (RTD) and Thales, respectively, responsible for booking, machine architecture and vetroniku. With a tonnage 22 mass with a growth potential, another 2 tonnes BMX-01 has a tonnage capacity of 4,7 and is based on an all-welded main body with independent suspension. Up to 11 soldiers are housed in a car in a single unit with a volume of 14,7 m 3; the seat of the commander of the assault force (which in the future will be able to turn 90 ° to the right) is installed directly behind the driver, the commander of the vehicle itself sits in front to the right, and eight paratroopers sit in two rows of energy absorbing seats in the rear. Embarkation and disembarkation is carried out through the stern ramp, in which the emergency door is cut with a viewing device; wider bulletproof glass is available along the sides of the aft compartment, and the bulletproof windshield is divided into two window blocks. Protection up to 4 Level is provided by modular booking kits. The BMX-01 demo has traveled over 7000 km on different types of terrain in several areas of France and has already passed a long ballistic test. The car is equipped with a ready-made commercial Renault turbo diesel engine rated at 400 hp, connected to a standard gearbox, as well as a centralized wheel inflation system.

According to the company RTD, machine BMX-01 represents approximately 80% of what should be VBMR a technical point of view. The hull will be modified, and the roof is lowered by about 80 mm, the length will be increased by about 200 mm towards the stern (but the wheelbase will remain the same between the front and second axle 2950 mm, between the second and third 1500 mm). The width of the 2500 mm will not change for the purpose of compatibility with civilian traffic regulations. RTD is considering replacing the power unit with a new 400-500 hp engine. from the new engine family of the same company. This will allow, thus, to maintain full combat readiness, at least until 2030 year. In the face of the French army VBMR get more mobile and better secure the car compared to the VAB, even if it does not comply with the BMP VBCI higher level. VBMR prototype is expected in 2016 year.

Having remained in the world of wheeled vehicles, as promised at DSEI last year during the demonstration of its new car, Patria finally announced its name at Eurosatory - AMV XP (Extra Payload, Extra Performance and Extra Protection - overload, over-performance and over-protection). At the Paris show, the car was not shown, while the AMV was still represented in the control station version. AMV machines feel good in the international market. The Badger South African infantry fighting vehicle based on AMV was developed by Denel Land Systems, it is undergoing technical, tactical and evaluation tests. It is expected that its production will begin in 2016 year, the first order provides for the production of 238 machines in five different versions. AMV in its various international versions earned points last June, when Poland ordered the Rosomak 34x8 X-machines of the company Rosomak in the version of engineering intelligence. This new version has yet to be developed; it will have a single-color crane and tools that will allow engineering support for the baseline in the field. The four-ton crane version is designed to provide higher-level technical support in the field; one of the countries ordered 8 of the 2013 of such machines in October.




The German army will soon receive its new Puma BMP, which in June 2014 for the first time took part in an international exhibition in Paris

The first international appearance was also made by the German Puma, designed and manufactured by PSM, a joint venture between KMW and Rheinmetall. The tracked infantry fighting vehicle, which may arouse American interest, was tested in hot weather in the United Arab Emirates in the fall of 2013 at temperatures exceeding 50 ° C (one of these two vehicles was exhibited at Eurosatory). All tests in extreme weather conditions were contracted. Final approval from the German purchasing agency was expected at the end of July 2014, but the need to optimize radios and equipment storage locations led to another test cycle, which, however, will not delay deliveries to the German army at the end of 2014. The first unit to receive a new BMP was the 33rd motorized infantry battalion. Serial production is expected to peak in 2015, with 55 cars per year until the last of 350 cars emerge from the factory in 2020 (eight driving learning machines are part of the package). All German Puma vehicles will be delivered to the German Army Armored School in Münster, where a special organization was formed. Crews from mechanized battalions will arrive there, they will be introduced to the new Puma vehicles for three months and sent back to their units in full - a crew with a vehicle. Each battalion will include 44 Puma infantry fighting vehicles. It is worth noting that all nine motorized infantry battalions, which are part of the so-called 2011 German Army Structure, will not receive full sets of tracked vehicles in accordance with the new German army rearmament policy, as this would require 396 combat vehicles plus additional vehicles for the school. Also, "at the last moment" some more changes may occur: the army demanded to install a 5,56 mm MG4 machine gun instead of the outdated 7,62 mm MG3, although a return to a larger caliber is possible. Based on the experience gained in Afghanistan, the H&K MG5 and the new 7,62mm machine gun from Rheinmetall are being considered. In addition, the current grenade launchers installed on both sides of the rear of the turret are to be replaced with new 360 ° circular coverage systems. The new launcher currently under development by Rheinmetall will consist of a rotating turret with a circular container with six 76mm launchers in the inner circle and 18 launchers of lethal and non-lethal 40mm grenades in the outer circle, which can be fired at ranges up to 400 meters. ...

Let's go back to Boxer. The first three cars in the sanitary version were transferred to the Dutch army in early July 2014 of the year. At present, the Netherlands has received only eight driving instruction machines. Sanitary options are actually the first Boxer machines to be commissioned, put into the 13-th mechanized brigade, which moves from tracked vehicles to wheeled vehicles. In order to show the flexibility and capabilities of the company KMW Boxer car unveiled at Eurosatory exhibition version of the machine with mounted artillery unit Artillery Gun Module 155-mm / 52 caliber.

With the assistance of Rheinmetall, Algeria becomes the manufacturer of the latest armored vehicle. At the end of August 2014, the company received the green light from the German government to build a Fuchs machine manufacturing plant. On this topic, no further details were provided in accordance with the confidentiality agreement, but it is clear that this is the beginning of a new trend. At the start of 2014, Rheinmetall established a joint venture with Ferrostaal called Rheinmetall International Engineering, which will work in the area of ​​development, procurement and contracting.

Currently, the CV90 has the latest version of the Mk3, but the plans are already new developments. Many countries are upgrading their cars or are going to do it. Norway has started a modernization program, according to which the towers will be removed from the old chassis and they will turn into support options. This engineering vehicle Sting, multi-purpose machine MULTIC, which itself will be divided into 4 options, including conveyor logistics, VIP and 81-mm mortar complex (each option has been ordered by 16 machines), and 15 Stridle control points. These chassis are being finalized so: they left the original chassis components and power unit, but the defense is strengthened and vetronika become fully digital. Mobility has been enhanced by removing the tower. On the new chassis will be installed CV90 Mk3 upgraded fully digital tower, according to one of the engineers of the company BAE Systems «only the seat and the gun remained from the original tower." The new electronic architecture Mk3 based on Ethernet (LAN Standard Organization) standard, but in the case of failure of Ethernet as a reserve left tire Canbus. The new Norwegian CV9030 machines will have more than 100 IP addresses. In yet another embodiment, the OPV left the tower, but added a sensor unit on the mast, which includes a radar and an optocoupler kit; paratroopers replaced by a smaller intelligence group engaged in the collection of information. Norwegian army received the first upgraded BMP CV9030 in February 2014 years, engineering vehicle based on the modified chassis Mk1 came out of the shop in August 22 2014 years. Sweden is also in the process of upgrading its CV90 machines; Configuration not yet been finally approved, but actions to extend the service life will definitely be held, revised ergonomics and installed an advanced battle management systems. While there are discussions on the final composition of the modernization kit; contract signing is expected at the end of 2014. Estonia buys 44 machines CV9035 from the Netherlands. As for Denmark, there M113 request for proposals for the replacement was to be released in August and September 2014 years with a view to issuing the contract in the first half of the year 2015.


Shipments of the latest standard CV90 to Norway began in February 2014; later 20 years, the tracked vehicle from BAE Systems was significantly improved. (Its designation CV90 means - combat vehicle 90-s - Combat Vehicle for the 1990)

With regard to the further development of CV90, BAE Systems is working on testing the concept of its visual Adaptiv system currently having the technological readiness level TRL4 (technology development), while the infrared camouflage version already has the readiness level TRL-7 (system and subsystem development) and upon the appearance of the customer must be delivered within two years. The company is developing a tile that can adapt to infrared and visible spectra in order to match the background landscape. The dimensions of these tiles will depend on the minimum detection distance required by the customer. two options will be offered: an inexpensive system with pre-made templates and expensive system with a camera that can capture an image background, and a computer, the ability to customize the tiles in order to merge with the machine captured image background.



A consortium of Slovak enterprises, led by Excalibur Army, has developed a new Sakal BMP based on BMP-2

Another two areas of activity are active defense and all-round visibility at 360 °. BAE Systems is already working with the customer on the choice of the optimal solution. As for the circular view, the goal here is to obtain within a reasonable time a “transparent machine” in which the commander will be able to see “through” the armor in any direction. A cheaper system will be adopted for the landing in the aft compartment. Cooperation with Soucy continues, new rubber tracks on the Armadillo demo, withstood a mileage of 6000 km without a single breakdown. These tracks plus active cushioning, which will become standard on all new platforms, will mark a big step in increasing “comfort” not only for soldiers, but also for portable electronic equipment. All technological developments offered and presented at the exhibition MSPO 2013 demonstrator PLO-1 platform, which is aimed at meeting the needs of the Polish Army in the family of light and medium tracked vehicles.



Streit is developing its success in the international market and its Varan 6x6 armored personnel carrier is almost ready for production.

First shown at IDEX 2013, armored personnel Varan 6x6 development Streit Group should be finalized at the end of 2014 years and enter into production in the year 2015. Development of this vehicle and other military products in line with the diversification of Streit Group products aimed at revenue sharing group for the year 2014: 70% of military products and 30% of the civil sector. The supporting frame for the sides and roofs of ballistic steel used SSAB Armox 500T, whereas the bottom is made of energy absorbing steel Armox 440T. Basic protection can be increased to 4 Level with the addition of ceramic armor and anti-mine bottom. The development of the undercarriage and power unit components has been completed and the machine has been tested in the UK Ballistic tests at the IABG German test center are expected before the end of the year. The Baran Varan accommodates two crew members and six paratroopers. In 6x6 machine configuration is set Cummins diesel engine power 400 hp coupled to a five-speed automatic transmission Allison; power unit is located in front of the right. Having machines ready for delivery is the company's philosophy, therefore 250 power units and bridge sets have already been ordered. Start of mass production is expected in 2015 year, since several contracts are already ready for signing; The final cost of the basic model will be up to one million dollars. At Eurosatory exhibition on Varan prototype was installed remotely controlled weapon station developed by Kyiv Design Bureau "Luch" and armed 12,7-mm machine gun and four anti-tank rockets.

For the first time, the modernized BMP Sakal was presented at the Eurosatory exhibition and on the international scene at the stand of the Slovak company Excalibur Army. It is based on the BMP-2 chassis, it is equipped with a Caterpillar engine with an HP 402 power. (on the 100 hp more power than the previous engine), coupled with an upgraded automatic transmission. The engine is located to the right, the driver is sitting to the left, the commander’s and arrow’s seats are located behind the front compartment. At Sakal mounted weapon station Evpu Turra 30, 30-armed 2A42 mm cannon and coaxial 7,62-mm machine gun with two missiles 9M113 contest, set on the right side of the tower. However, these weapons can be replaced by weapons systems of Western origin in the same category. Ballistic protection corresponds to Level 3, and anti-mine protection corresponds to Level 1b / 2a.




The first appearance of Japan

Eurosatory 2014 was marked by the first appearance of the Japanese defense industry. Real vehicles were not presented, only an armored vehicle 8x8 from Mitsubishi Heavy Industries was shown as a model (see photo above). The machine will be about 8 meters long, 2,2 meters high and 2,98 meters wide, with a net weight of 18 tons it will have a useful load capacity of 10 tons. In the BTR version, it can transport a total of 11 people, also an option is available with a raised roof in the stern for an ambulance and a control point. The car is equipped with an independent hydropneumatic suspension, the front suspension has a double wishbone, the wheels are 395 / 85R20. The machine is equipped 4-cylinder diesel engine power MHI4VA 535 hp located ahead on the left; the car develops 100 km / h on the highway. Information on the levels of protection was not provided, the perimeter APCs lattice pattern set screens landing bead separation is likely to reserved blocks dynamic protection. For self-installed 12,7-mm machine gun, sufficient load capacity of the machine allows the tower to srednekalibernym or even large-caliber weapons, although the Japanese policy is to offer the market a non-aggressive weapons.

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  1. +12
    3 January 2015 07: 43
    On the face is the transition of quantitative changes to qualitative ones. As a result, the strongest survive on the market, the Germans among them.
    1. +1
      3 January 2015 08: 18
      Quote: professor
      On the face is the transition of quantitative changes to qualitative ones. As a result, the strongest survive on the market, the Germans among them.

      Well, the French, apparently decided to take the quantity too. "Nexter", "Thales" Renault Defense has a whole range of models.
      1. 0
        3 January 2015 08: 36
        Quote: Hairy Siberian
        Well, the French, apparently decided to take the quantity too. "Nexter", "Thales" Renault Defense has a whole range of models.

        Wheeled armored vehicles today are made by all and sundry. The Europeans were especially keen on this, but even such "leading armored specialists" as the Turks breathe in the back of their heads. IMHO will saturate the market and every little thing will die out.
        1. 0
          3 January 2015 08: 53
          In general, the Westerners are hooked on "wheels".
          1. +2
            3 January 2015 18: 35
            In general, the Westerners are hooked on "wheels".
            on their roads it’s better to pin ...
            In our some regions you cannot do with wheels alone
    2. +5
      3 January 2015 10: 51
      Quote: professor
      On the face is the transition of quantitative changes to qualitative ones.

      Just the concept has changed. If earlier it was believed that the war would be nuclear and that it would be necessary to quickly make up for losses, then the simpler the better.
      Well, now, since the oncoming tank battles under the blue of atomic mushrooms have been canceled, each specific vehicle can serve for a long time, therefore, they began to "stuff" lol
      1. ladan-ran-1974
        +6
        3 January 2015 20: 10
        and where is the confidence that there will be no nuclear war? For example, in the event of the outbreak of war, the missile defense system in Poland will be neutralized by one powerful nuclear strike and quickly and efficiently, the rest of the missiles are guaranteed to go to Berlin, London and to our favorite "partners" - the USA!
      2. +3
        4 January 2015 00: 22
        Quote: Landwarrior
        Just the concept has changed. If earlier it was believed that the war would be nuclear and that it would be necessary to quickly make up for losses, then the simpler the better.
        Well, now, since the oncoming tank battles under the blue of atomic mushrooms have been canceled, each specific vehicle can serve for a long time, therefore, they began to "stuff"

        Therefore, almost all modern BMPs and T-BTRs have anti-WMD systems?
        TNW has not been canceled or written off. The principle of its application and, as a result, the views on the use of armored vehicles in the great war have changed. Now it is planned to use WMD against the KP and nuclear weapons carriers in the first strike, and then the classical troops will go on the offensive. The task of the latter is to suppress the resistance of regular troops, to ensure the filtering of the pit, and to liquidate (when it appears) the partisan movement.
        Accordingly, as you noticed, the priorities in production are changing from quantitative to qualitative. Example: note that now all modern armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles are compared in terms of combat qualities, turning into representatives of a single class - infantry fighting vehicles (light, medium, heavy). And the niche of the armored personnel carrier is replaced by wheeled armored cars, as units that are cheaper in mass production.
    3. 0
      4 January 2015 00: 13
      Quote: professor
      As a result, the strongest survive on the market, the Germans among them.

      But didn’t the Germans eventually close the Puma program?
    4. 0
      4 January 2015 12: 52
      the price is also an indicator - a penny consumer goods will not go anywhere
  2. 0
    3 January 2015 07: 47
    Rearview mirrors are kind of weak. Would make them retractable.
    When moving, they only interfere. Or they think they will overtake!
    Yes, and some models are plain!
  3. +21
    3 January 2015 08: 15
    The article is very large, especially after the holidays. I haven’t read it to the end, so I can’t comment. I’ll say about what happened to test a couple of years ago. Unimog (fresh) so everything is fine, there are electrically heated windows in it, and a robot box, air conditioning and other electronic bells and whistles. I will say this, he could not stand the Siberian frosts. In the morning, we brought something in (- 40) (at the last breath of the batteries) while damaging the power steering (tore off the gear on the drive) The pneumatic system also had problems, it was heated with soldering iron. In general, we got home somehow, while my hands almost fell off. In our case, the simpler the better. For from heating the glass, air conditioning, air-suspended seats, and a robot box in the taiga, there’s NO use in winter. Here KAMAZ rule with the Urals, and as a repair suitability. Something like this.
    1. MGD
      +2
      3 January 2015 09: 40
      About zl. glass heating You are wrong - even at the GTT he had and coped well ... Yes, and air conditioning is needed if you do not want to feed the gnats ...
      1. +1
        3 January 2015 09: 55
        Quote: MGD
        About zl. glass heating You are wrong - even at the GTT he had and coped well ... Yes, and air conditioning is needed if you do not want to feed the gnats ...

        1. Glass, I'm not against it, but when the frost is 40, the batteries are frozen, it's cold in the booth, you can't start the car, and it's 60 km to the highway, you don't think about glass. how not to freeze 2. Conder was used only in summer, and then only up to the "base" there they already fed both midges and ticks laughing
        To summarize, all that I wrote about.
        All of the above happened, due to the fact that they drank a lot of "holy" water lol If the car was warmed up periodically, then all this would have been avoided.
        Personally, I made conclusions, and put an extra battery on my car, and stuck it in a webasto. (Plus the charger I drive with the generator) And, if possible, I warm up anyway.
    2. +1
      4 January 2015 14: 49
      Quote: Sirocco
      In the morning, we brought something in (- 40) while damaging the power steering ...
      Something like this.

      As always, the car is to blame, or solarium. -40 !!! That's it, that something like.
      Quote: Sirocco
      All of the above happened, due to the fact that they drank a lot of "holy" water. If we warmed up the car periodically, we would have avoided all this.

      It was necessary to begin with this, without libel.
      By the way, Unimogi (U400) is also collected in Naberezhnye Chelny (KamAZ).
    3. +1
      6 January 2015 01: 25
      Dear Sirocco, we didn’t try to buy in the northern version, in our company in the north of Canada and Alaska they work at a temperature of -40, -45, they get into the floor of the stick. You start a remote factory without leaving your home and sit in the already warm one. Sorry, but there is good in everything and in the heating of glasses and electronic frills. You probably don’t remember how in the winter URAL started a bucket of kerosene burning under the crankcase, drained the water or didn’t jam it for the night.
  4. 0
    3 January 2015 08: 29
    Armored personnel carriers by weight became like medium tanks.
    1. MGD
      0
      3 January 2015 09: 41
      That's why they armor ... winked
  5. 0
    3 January 2015 09: 46
    thanks for the info smile yes noticeably go on wheels and become more massive.
  6. -3
    3 January 2015 09: 51
    Our equipment is more reliable, cheaper!
    1. +3
      4 January 2015 00: 24
      Quote: Utlan
      Our equipment is more reliable, cheaper!

      In general, yes. But it’s useful to know the technique of neighbors, especially since a number of western-made BMs are more than not bad - the CV90 is generally the main opponent of our BMP-3 and BMD-4M. It is a pity the old BMP-2 did not begin to modernize (at least to the level of BMP-2D).
      1. +3
        4 January 2015 15: 04
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        Quote: Utlan
        Our equipment is more reliable, cheaper!

        It is a pity the old BMP-2 did not begin to modernize (at least to the level of BMP-2D).

        It is completely unclear to me why they refuse to upgrade the BMP-2, because it is obvious that the platform can be "overclocked" and not only to the level of the BMP-2D.
  7. +2
    3 January 2015 11: 24
    With a new round of military threat, the potential areas of military operations are changing. After partisan wars (with weakly armed countries), with a large number of svs, everyone went to rampages. and cheaper operation. On our Russian open spaces caterpillar chassis are more suitable, there are a lot of difficult places.
  8. 0
    3 January 2015 11: 54
    Price-quality in war is a conditional thing. In the same WWII, our tanks were inferior in many respects, but the Russian people won the war.
    In today's Iraq, ISIS beats the more equipped Iraqi army.
    It's hard to say which is better.
  9. 0
    3 January 2015 11: 55
    BMP based on Almaty will appear soon. It will be interesting.
  10. +1
    3 January 2015 13: 21
    The Slovak "Sakal" has a Raphael module "Samson" with a 30mm cannon and two ATGMs.
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 00: 26
      It is not the first time they are showing it. It is strange that no buyers were found. Strengthening protection while maintaining reliability and mobility is worth a lot.
  11. +3
    3 January 2015 14: 19
    All this is nonsense. Luck is to get our country scrap in the guise of a modern armored personnel carrier.
    1. +7
      3 January 2015 15: 35
      not ours, but yours!
    2. +1
      4 January 2015 11: 56
      Quote: Vitas
      Luck is to get our country scrap in the guise of a modern armored personnel carrier.

      Everyone knew that it was a police armored car, not an army one. But the “cheaper” principle won out. And there is no war in your country.
  12. 52
    +1
    3 January 2015 15: 47
    Yes, confusion and vacillation in the BMP camp continues! Something seems that the Germans with their "cougar" will take the lead, after all, it is easier to make a fully protected vehicle on tracks. Although the wheeled versions are not excluded, it is still closer to the armored personnel carrier. BMP is the tank's partner in battle, after all, although it looks like these classes will soon get married among themselves.
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 00: 28
      Our BTR-82 is considered a light infantry fighting vehicle, but in general modern infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers do not differ much, but rather complement each other. In fact, they are all BMPs, but of a different subclass.
  13. +3
    3 January 2015 15: 48
    They didn’t get stuck;) as usual, how it came to purchasing - taking into account the rollback to everyone, the whole price went completely undemocratic for such rubbish and how to explain why rubbish is bought in British stores and not restored to its own for a penny - the question ...
  14. 0
    3 January 2015 16: 38
    Yes, these are not "shells" to rivet
  15. 0
    4 January 2015 01: 41
    Useful article. Suddenly I learned that water-gen already exists, and not just in plans.
  16. -1
    4 January 2015 08: 15
    Now compare our BMP-3, Btr-90.btr-80, different armored vehicles from the Gorky Automobile Plant and it will immediately become clear that the battle will last more than 2 minutes. where combined simplicity and reliability of field operation, all these rear view cameras for their parking in Brussels in their supermarket. Well, something like this, still need to RPG-7 on board to peel meters with 300 and see what happens?
  17. +6
    4 January 2015 11: 16
    Quote: pamero
    RPG-7 on board to peel about 300 meters and see what happens?

    And what will happen to
    Quote: pamero
    BMP-3, Btr-90. Btr-80,
    if they with 300m peel? exactly the same, so do not write nonsense.
  18. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 41
    Actually, RPG is RPG, it will run almost everything, but I’m looking at bourgeois Beters, especially the wheel suspension, so I’ll have a good walk from the PC and it’s not going to work with mech-water for an hour, but it’s probably going to turn it around with the DShK!
  19. 0
    4 January 2015 19: 18
    just curious,...

    what is this? sniper dream?
    1. Tjumenec72
      0
      11 January 2015 07: 02
      this is called prototype sea trials
  20. -3
    5 January 2015 00: 57
    Our generals are lazy and stupid, we need to create assault brigades where we can take something like an arming weapon and not try to cross a hedgehog with a snake (armament of the BTR-3, protection of the type and speed with convenience.) The BTR-3 is a great car for motorized rifles, and stormtroopers should capture cities.
    1. Tjumenec72
      0
      11 January 2015 07: 09
      What kind of btr-3 speech? (Ukrainian chol) meant BMP-3 and go? For your divination and minus
      1. 0
        12 January 2015 23: 54
        Of course BMP-3.
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  21. 0
    7 January 2015 00: 08
    Well, again, some kind of sofa grinder marshal minuscule without explanation)))
  22. Beiderlei
    0
    7 January 2015 14: 49
    Good article, I liked it! By the way, boxer and VBCI producers are merging!
  23. 0
    7 January 2015 20: 02
    My opinion. The armored personnel carrier and BMP of our (Soviet or Russian) production are still better because they are run in both minus 50 and plus 50. Both in dust and in dirt. Plus Afghan Chechnya. Western technology is no worse, but one hell is created according to your requirements and your own concept of lack of knowledge. From personal experience. There were some kind of American instructors in the training. A lot of things were told, but a ride on the UAZ was delighted with simplicity and patency. Admitted that Hamer will be worse. It was 2005 summer in the Cherkasy region Orshanets.
  24. arcturus
    0
    8 January 2015 06: 57
    if I understand the modern concepts of war correctly, soldiers will not pick up shovels.
    Well, where are the self-loaders?
  25. 0
    10 January 2015 16: 20
    The material is interesting, but perceived tightly. Now, if the same thing, but in Russian ... The structure of these phrases is not possible to attribute to the Russian language. sad
  26. 0
    24 January 2015 19: 31
    The most successful technique for us and the Germans, because we do not complicate anything. We have a steering wheel, a wheel, a carrier, and "some kind of Kuzma's mother" has been nightmare Europe for 200 years. And the Germans always have "kvadratish, prakish, gut".
  27. 0
    31 January 2015 15: 41
    Photo shine! You can even re-read!

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