Russian ships "joined" NATO

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Russian ships "joined" NATO


More recently, Russian shipyards and shipyards have raised the alarm that total underfunding by the state and "calm" on the sea of ​​orders are forcing many employees to look for more "bread" places to work. In this regard, many enterprises in this industry were either closed or sold privately to businessmen who converted them into factories for the production of cans, dishes and other things, far from the Russian fleet. Today, the situation with government orders has turned 180 degrees. So the management of enterprises received so many orders for the construction and repair of military and civilian vessels that they will be enough for the next ten years of the most intensive work. According to the new Russian tradition, in this case, factory managers suddenly grabbed their heads and announced that they were unlikely to be able to absorb such a large amount of resources due to a lack of qualified personnel and worn-out equipment. Here everything is like in a joke that our peasant is at least a drought bad, at least a big harvest. So officials of the Ministry of Defense pondered how to solve such a problem. And it seems that there is money, and even what money, and the desire to earn money from the people has not exhausted, but here is where to collect those people who can build and repair so many ships. And our admirals came up with the idea that it would be better if some ships were sent for repairs to Bulgaria. As they say, "abroad will help us."

It is worth a little stop at this very abroad. If someone perceives Bulgaria almost as a continuation of Russia, a fraternal state that is asleep and sees how to be closer friends with Moscow, then this is not quite so. Well, to be lexically accurate, it’s better to say: not at all. Bulgaria has long been a member of NATO. Its troops take part in various operations as part of the Allied shock groups of the Alliance. And if we talk about the deployment of missile defense in its territory, the Bulgarians are unlikely to refuse. It was in this country that military ships from Russia were sent for repair.

Here comes the following remark: is it possible later on to use these ships in battle if a potential enemy knows all their “cracks”, as sung in a famous song. The answer, I think, is understandable even to a schoolboy ... Everything is like how a hare that broke a leg resorts to treatment in a wolf's den. What can happen to him there is obvious to everyone. Of course, military officials say that these ships will not be involved in long hikes, and military officers will be trained for them. Like, well, let NATO know where we have the latrine, and where the galley ...

The Bulgarian ship repairmen, of course, repaired everything as it should be. Claims to present them meaningless. The main thing is that in this small country there were immediately found both qualified specialists and equipment, which in Russia was simply impossible to do.

The situation for an ordinary person looks just paradoxical. The huge state, which positions itself as a superpower, does not have ten thousand pairs of workers to realize the funds provided from the state budget. If so, then what kind of modernization, then we can even talk about. It is not clear what our factories are designed for then, if they are not able to “pay up” a couple of ships. Maybe they, too, go to the production of cans and lids - there is no need for seven spans on the forehead.

Many were still wondering why, they say, we buy several Mistrals from the French — we cannot build our own ships. As it turned out, not only can not, but do not want to. If there is money, then let NATO build everything for us ... You can even pay the Americans to stop considering us as a potential enemy. Why? - The idea, I think, is quite in the spirit of what is happening with our “defense industry” today. Either we lack money, either mind, or everything together. And in order to have enough of everything, you can buy everything from the Chinese: disposable corvettes, unsinkable plastic submarines - “maid in tea”.

Here you can really talk about the fact that the power is insulting ...
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  1. +15
    3 September 2011 10: 23
    The m ... daki themselves are to blame. I also worked at the factory at one time, though not at the military, but it is not so important. When they delay their salaries and pay little, who will work there. They all went to the markets, etc. .d. And I’ve seen specialists ... Monuments should be erected for such specialists. Miracles could work on such ancient equipment. When at the factory there are several bosses for 1 worker ...... They themselves are to blame ....
    1. 0
      8 February 2012 19: 09
      Well, I don’t think that warships will be sent there, but supply ships, service ships and others - they can. It is a pity of course money, but what to do.

      Production and capacity in the country must be revived.
  2. CARTRIDGE
    +1
    3 September 2011 12: 15
    Targeted sabotage of the country's defense. Soon we will purchase all the equipment abroad!
  3. +3
    3 September 2011 12: 37
    And how did you want ??? If it is still possible to recruit welders in the shipbuilding industry, who "cheated" on construction sites, although they will also need the skills of welding ship steel, but where can we get specialists of the level of a foreman, site manager, builder ??? there is nothing to do without special education !!! And where did the graduates (formerly of the Leningrad Shipbuilding Institute) and now SPbMTU go to work for the last 20 years ??? The only institution of higher education in the Russian Federation that trains QUALIFIED personnel for the ship industry ??? I graduated from this university myself, I know what I'm talking about ... And they went anywhere except shipyards and factories. The old cadres retired, the middle-aged (which could now form the core of the engineering and technical staff) fled from lack of money during the period mentioned above, and the new ones did not come at all. So it was Zh.pa when the work stopped. And it is possible to recruit graduates, but they still need to develop practical skills, but time is running out ...
  4. Old Cat Basilio
    +4
    3 September 2011 12: 46
    Well, what did the author dissolve the snot? The photo shows the 1st rank training ship "Perekop" pr. 887 built in 1976 (by the way, Polish construction). And if he went to Bulgaria for repairs - what is the damage to the country's defense capability? All large shipyards on the Black Sea remained in Ukraine - also, it seems, abroad. So the Bulgarians took it cheaper. By the way, in Ukraine, shipbuilding and ship repair are in such a paddock that ours dreamed of.
    1. 0
      3 September 2011 19: 52
      The training ship "Smolny" was sent for repairs to Bulgaria (Varna), it was a year ago (04.07.10. Left Kronstadt), the end of the repair was August 2012.
    2. 0
      26 September 2011 15: 44
      So, load them to the eyeballs and you will see fewer problems with the Black Sea Fleet. They built ships no worse than the French.
  5. fedora
    +3
    3 September 2011 13: 55
    Dear Cat Basilio.
    1. Judging by the first word "Old" you are over 60 ... and you are familiar with ship repair and the reasons for placing support vessels for the Navy for repairs in Bulgaria are known to you.
    2. Warships in Bulgaria were not repaired and will not be repaired. The author of the article palm off the DESU website.
    3. The ships of the Russian Navy are not deployed at shipbuilding and ship repair enterprises in Ukraine, primarily for political reasons, of course, the factories in Ukraine are weakened, but there is enough skilled working class there and there is enough equipment to repair the current composition of the Navy.
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      +2
      3 September 2011 16: 10
      Good afternoon, dear fedor, thanks for the comment.
      1. On the first point, I do not agree with everything, I am 51 years old. everything else is true.
      2 .. Completely in favor.
      3. I would like to know why they are currently surviving: the Kerch plant "Zaliv", the Sevastopol plant named after Ordzhonikidze, Feodosia plant "More"? By the way, many Ukrainian "guest workers" (for God's sake, don't be offended) from "Sea" work at our Vympel (Yaroslavl region, Rybinsk) in terms of metal blanks for assembling hulls. And yet, at all three factories + Nikolaev YuTZ visited.
      1. +1
        3 September 2011 18: 42
        Quote: Old Cat Basilio
        Feodosia plant "More"

        I was at the factory two years ago! The state is depressing!
        1. Old Cat Basilio
          0
          3 September 2011 19: 00
          That's the whole damn thing!
    2. Misantrop
      0
      10 February 2013 23: 46
      Quote: fedor
      Of course, the factories in Ukraine are weakened, but there is enough qualified working class there and there is enough equipment to repair the current composition of the Navy.

      To recall three (!) Attempts to repair the only submarine in Ukraine by domestic plants? As a result, they managed to repair it at the 13th shipyard in Sevastopol, which retained the Russian authority. But there is an absolutely standard project, no special bells and whistles

      And "Sea" is now finishing the order for China, and so it lives. The rest of the workers left there for the same China on a 5-year contract.
  6. Comrade
    0
    3 September 2011 19: 30
    Always, everything will fall apart at first, and then they will catch it, and it’s too late .... and it doesn’t matter what it is about - kindergartens or defense enterprises .... sad .. ((

    And as for the Chinese, the author should not be ironic - they have not had "disposable" ships and not "plastic" submarines for a long time ... And they were smart enough, unlike Russian bureaucrats, to purchase an aircraft carrier from Ukraine, ready for 70% at the price of scrap metal ....
  7. 0
    3 September 2011 19: 50
    And the fleet of Chinas is built systemically and logically, even with their secrecy. And soon our Pacific Fleet will have nothing more to catch.
  8. fedora
    +2
    3 September 2011 20: 51
    Friends, I agree, the Sea plant in Feodosia and other SSP and SRZ of Ukraine are in a deplorable state. I meant the potential of these enterprises, and it is not small. There would be orders. You yourself understand why shipyard # 13 in Sevastopol, owned by the Black Sea Fleet, is idle today, and repair orders have been given to Bulgaria.
    1. zczczc
      0
      4 September 2011 11: 23
      Fedor, but tell me, if you have information, how many ship repair enterprises were under the Union now? Acting.
  9. dimarm74
    0
    4 September 2011 12: 56
    There is nothing surprising ..... they themselves are already really incapable ... And how much is interesting this year the Navy will surrender ships? And how much should have been according to plan?
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      0
      4 September 2011 13: 10
      And you, dear dimarm74, contact the ordering Navy command, there they will give you detailed help (if you ask well)!
      1. dimarm74
        0
        4 September 2011 13: 18
        Yeah ... they will give me a feeling .... they will catch up and still add ... all kinds of certificates
  10. dimarm74
    0
    4 September 2011 13: 24
    Laughter laughter, but real things are deplorable ... And the state program of the GVZP-2020 will not be fulfilled by half ... at such a pace ... if you build one ship for 5-7 years ... The situation before pain reminds the end of the 19th early 20th century ..... The same thing ..... "Varyag" and "Retvizan" amers in how many years were built? And our shipyards based on the French "Tsesarevich" built similar vessels for 5 years ...
    And how did it end with such a mess? Tsushima .....
    1. 0
      8 September 2011 17: 58
      Yes, some 3,14dores passed without armored shields on the guns, but the same took
      And then the "rollback"?
  11. 0
    8 September 2011 17: 55
    Alas, such a magic-liberal word "kickback" appeared, that says it all
  12. Aias
    0
    26 February 2012 12: 24
    the escort ship is far from standing in the photo!
  13. 0
    10 February 2013 23: 10
    The problem is not where the ships go for repairs; it is because they are not being repaired in Russia. It's just criminal.