Battle of Cuba. Dmitry Rogozin arrived in Havana

A serious geopolitical struggle of Russia and the USA for the Island of Freedom began - the state of Cuba. After the US Department of State announced that Washington was ready to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba and even lift the trade and economic embargo, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin went to visit the Castro brothers. At a meeting with the Chairman of the State Council and the Council of Ministers of Cuba, Raul Castro, Dmitry Rogozin discussed the expansion of economic cooperation in various sectors.

Dmitry Rogozin:

Acquaintance and beginning of negotiations with Cuban President Raul Castro. They spoke well. Long. More than one and a half hours.

The Cuban press, which, frankly, without much enthusiasm met the recent statements by representatives of Washington, writes about the visit of the representative of the Russian authorities (quotes from RIA News):

During the fraternal meeting, they talked about the excellent state of bilateral relations, the need to strengthen them, in particular, in the economic and commercial sphere.

How great these relations are is a big question, but one thing is for sure - there are no obstacles for a full-fledged re-establishment of contacts that were reduced to zero in the first post-Soviet years between Russia and Cuba. And if it was Dmitry Rogozin who arrived in Havana, then there is a reason to say that the matter will not be limited to negotiations on an exclusive economy.

Comments

[Andryukha G]

Yes, they abandoned their ally, and after 23 years they came to their senses (when the Americans began to launch their hands there).

[subbtin.725]

And here is what Rogozin said in an interview with the media:


“According to Rogozin, 50 years ago, the United States tried to blockade Cuba and this ended in the United States' recognition of“ its wrongness and weakness. ”He expressed confidence that sanctions against Russia would end in the same shame for them. “If the United States is somewhere imposed something, it doesn’t mean at all that we should react to it ”, - he said."

Cool.And, as a hit, Dmitry Olegovich.

[Момент]

It is clear that America needs Cuba so that Russia is not there. But how Cuba will behave, given that it has been forgiven for debts, will be seen in the near future. America has spread rot.

[zero12005]

Cuba will behave as the majority of our citizens expect, very responsibly. Don’t hesitate, Cuba, having taken full sweep of America’s slavery, will remain our friend, despite past mistakes of the Russian leadership. If there is a question about the existence of Russia, you can rest assured that Iskander and something else will appear in Cuba. Cubans can now play a beautiful game, but unlike Lukashenko, verbal diarrhea will be avoided.

[pahom54]

Quote: zero12005

Don’t hesitate, Cuba, having taken full sweep of America’s slavery, will remain our friend,

The problem in relations with Cuba, as well as with China, was their complete rejection of the collapse of the USSR and the departure of the new Russia from the socialist course of development ... However, over time, China changed its position, which we now see ...
Well, Cuba ... At least, this is not Egypt, which has betrayed us more than once, despite the assistance rendered to it ... Raul, of course, is not such a tough and fiery fighter as Fidel, but, I think, it is better for him to renew friendship with Russia in a new capacity than with the Americans ... At least, it seems to me ...

[Talgat]

Quote: pahom54

The problem in relations with Cuba, as with China, was their complete rejection of the collapse of the USSR and the departure of the new Russia from the socialist course of development.

totally agree, China and Cuba looked at Yeltsin's democratic Russia at best with bewilderment

But now China and Venezuela with Cuba and the Bolivarian countries. and Iran and Syria and others look at the Russian Federation as a potential ally in the confrontation with the states and the West. RF is clearly starting to "choose a side"

[SveTok]

Cuba has always been a friend to the Russians, despite Yeltsin’s policies.

[vit8180]

The question is how Fidel raised his relatives and in what direction this relatives looks ...

[Genur]

Quote: zero12005

past mistakes of the leadership of the Russian Federation

To say the least!

[atalef]

Quote: zero12005

Cuba will behave as the majority of our citizens expect, very responsibly. Don’t hesitate, Cuba, having taken full sweep of America’s slavery, will remain our friend, despite past mistakes of the Russian leadership

Of course it will remain. 32 billion forgiven. probably still give, I think they are Old Man - will be both ours and yours

[gorge1945]

I beg you, do not compare Raul Castro with Lukashenko, Castro is a responsible politician who has gone through a good school and Lukashenko as the director of the state farm remained so. He has friends with whom, if problems arise, something can be grabbed.

[Des10]

Cuba is far away, Cuba is near! (from)
Still, the neighbor’s gingerbread cookies are so fragrant and desirable, and, most importantly, accessible, that it is not known where the island will go next to the United States.

[Klepa]

I understand that the main dispute over a cube between the Russian Federation and the United States will unfold around a Russian military base?

[atalef]

Quote: Klepa

I understand that the main dispute over a cube between the Russian Federation and the United States will unfold around a Russian military base?

Yes, no one will argue

[glasha3032]

And here about the news base - the Russian Federation will not build a base in Cuba!

[atalef]

Quote: Moment

It is clear that America needs Cuba so that Russia is not there. But how Cuba will behave, given that it has been forgiven for debts, will be seen in the near future. America has spread rot.

Yes, in general, it’s clear how it will lead.
Diplomatic relations are not established unilaterally.
There is no such situation that the Americans sent an ambassador. but the Cubans - no

[Giant thought]

Let’s hope that the Cubans will not take the American sweetie, and our cooperation will only grow stronger.

[PATTIY]

Quote: subbtin.725

“If the United States imposed something somewhere,

People! We saw IT!!

[zao74]

And if it was Dmitry Rogozin who arrived in Havana

Tickle the underbelly of amers ...

[Angro Magno]

Cool.
And many are already shouting: "Kastrovsyoslil"!

[Enot-poloskun]

No wonder that imposed. Savages, sir!

[Finches]

Return our military there - otherwise we will shatter all the polymers !!!
First the army, and then the economy!

[atalef]

Quote: Finches

Return our military there - otherwise we will shatter all the polymers !!!
First the army, and then the economy!

They have already had it for 50 years - they would have surrendered to someone a long time ago - yes, the Army does not. they live like that - on chicken per month per person, receiving and shedding from the most free country on rafts.

[Venier]

“If the United States has imposed something somewhere, it does not mean that we have to react to it,” he said.

That's right, their pants, in which they imposed, will be removed themselves.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Almost a topic but ...

Today, their professional holiday - FSB Day - is celebrated by people who daily solve problems related to ensuring state security. However, the range of duties of employees of state security bodies is not limited to this only, because the interests of the state are closely related to the satisfaction of the possibility of the progressive development of the individual and society, and therefore, this also concerns national security. National security is the protection of the vital interests of citizens, society and the state, as well as national values ​​and lifestyle from a wide range of external and internal threats. In the era of the USSR, this holiday was well known as Chekist Day. The history of its establishment dates back to (7) December 20, 1917 - it was then that the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission, the All-Russian Extraordinary Commission, was formed. Later, the Cheka changed many names - NKVD, OGPU, MGB, KGB.

Happy holiday men ...! You cover Russia.!

[shasherin_pavel]

Quote: MIKHAN

Later, the Cheka changed many names - NKVD, OGPU, MGB, KGB.

People's Commissariat Internal Affairs to the Department of State PoliticalAbout the Office are related bodies. NKGB since 41. "Smersh" from 43 years under the control of Obakumov, who a few days before the execution (in the Khrushchev thaw) asked for paper and a pen, and in three days wrote a report on the structure of the State Intelligence Directorate, which exists to this day. But that is another story...

[Nagaibak]

shasherin_pave "Smersh" since 43 under the management of Obakumov. "
Maybe all the same Abakumova.))))
shasherin_pavel "asked for a paper and pen, and in three days wrote a report on the structure of the State Intelligence Agency, which exists to this day. But that's another story."
Look how well done!)))) Already in three days the GRU pile !!!)))))
Or maybe it was all easier? And the GRU was created along with the Cheka and the Criminal Investigation Department in 1918? From the wiki ...
"In November 1918, the Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic (RVSR) approved the staff of the RVSR Field Headquarters, which included the Registration Department with the functions of coordinating the efforts of the intelligence agencies of the Red Army units and preparing intelligence information for the Red Army Field Headquarters. The Registration Department became the first central body of military intelligence intelligence. Since the secret order of the Revolutionary Military Council of the RSFSR No. 197/27 on the staff of the Field Headquarters (including the staff of the Register) was dated November 5, 1918, this day is considered the birthday of the Soviet (and now Russian) military intelligence. military intelligence was Aralov Semyon Ivanovich.

In February 1921, with the aim of creating a unified body of command and control of the armed forces, the Field Headquarters of the RVSR was merged with the All-Russia Headquarters in the Headquarters of the Red Army. The register group became part of the newly formed body.

In April 1921, the Registration Directorate was transformed into the Intelligence Directorate of the Headquarters of the Red Army (Intelligence) with the inclusion of the military intelligence department. The relevant Regulation determined that this structure is the central organ of military intelligence, both in wartime and in peacetime.

In 1921-1925, the Intelligence Agency carried out the so-called "active intelligence" - led the actions of pro-Soviet partisan detachments in the territories of states neighboring with Soviet Russia and the USSR.

In November 1922, the Intelligence Directorate of the Headquarters of the Red Army was reorganized into the Intelligence Division of the Office of the 1st Assistant Chief of Staff of the Red Army with a significant reduction in functions and a reduction in staffing.

In 1924, the Intelligence Directorate of the Headquarters of the Red Army was recreated.

In September 1926, the Intelligence Directorate of the Headquarters of the Red Army was renamed the IV Directorate of the Headquarters of the Red Army.

In August 1934, the Fourth Directorate of the Headquarters of the Red Army was renamed the Information and Statistics Directorate of the Red Army, which in turn was renamed the Intelligence Directorate of the Red Army in November 1934 (directly subordinate to the People’s Commissar of Defense).

In May 1939, the Intelligence Directorate of the Red Army was transformed into the 5th Directorate of the People's Commissariat of Defense of the USSR.

In July 1940, the 5th Directorate was again transferred to the subordination of the General Staff and was named the Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army. "

[Nagaibak]

Continued ..
"On February 16, 1942, by order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR, the Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army was reorganized into the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff with a corresponding change in the structure and staffing [1].
Order on the reorganization of the Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff to the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army No. 0033 February 16, 1942
1. To reorganize the Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army into the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army.
2. Appoint: Deputy Head of the General Staff of the Red Army, he is also the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Major General of Tank Forces A. N. Panfilov
Military Commissioner of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army Brigadier Commissar I. Ilyichev
3. The Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army shall have:
1st Office (undercover) with departments:
1st Division (German)
2nd Division (European)
3rd department (Far Eastern)
4th Division (Middle Eastern)
5th Division (Sabotage)
6th department (front [ov], army and district intelligence)
7th department (operational equipment)
8th department (undercover communications and radio intelligence)
2nd Office (informational) with departments:
1st Division (German)
2nd Division (European)
3rd department (Far Eastern)
4th Division (Middle Eastern)
5th Division (Editorial and Publishing)
6th department (military information)
7th department (decryption)
Departments of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army:
Political
Foreign relations
Special communication
Special assignments
Frames
Military censorship
Financial control
Logistics support.
4. The reorganization to be completed by February 20, 1942.

People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR I. Stalin
- f. 4, op. 11, d.67, l. 73-74. Script.
[2]
On October 23, 1942, by order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR, the Main Intelligence Directorate was transferred from subordination to the General Staff to direct subordination to the Commissar of Defense. The GRU was entrusted with the conduct of all undercover intelligence and sabotage activities, both abroad and in the occupied territory of the USSR. At the same time, the Directorate of Military Intelligence of the General Staff was formed as part of the General Staff, which led the work of front-line intelligence agencies and military intelligence. Conducting undercover intelligence of the newly formed management was prohibited [3]. This separation of functions between the two intelligence services quickly showed their inefficiency. By order of the People’s Commissar of Defense of April 19, 1943, the Directorate of Military Intelligence of the General Staff was renamed the Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff, and the leadership of intelligence and sabotage activities in the occupied territory of the USSR was transferred to him. The GRU of the People’s Commissariat of Defense of the USSR retained only intelligence intelligence abroad [4].

In June 1945, the GRU of the People's Commissariat of Defense of the USSR and the RU of the General Staff were reunified into the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Red Army. In September 1947, in connection with the reorganization of the intelligence services of the USSR, the GRU of the General Staff was abolished. Most of its functions and employees were transferred to the recently formed Information Committee, which combined military and political (intelligence of the USSR Ministry of State Security) intelligence in one structure. A relatively small Reconnaissance and Subversive Service was created to guide the military intelligence agencies left as part of the Armed Forces.
In January 1949, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR was restored to the Ministry of the Armed Forces of the USSR in connection with the return of functions for the leadership of military intelligence. "

[Alex]

VChK 1917-1922, GPU under the NKVD of the RSFSR 1922, OGPU under the NKVD of the USSR 1923-1941, the NKGB (People’s Commissariat of State Security) from February 1941 to July 1941, merged with the NKVD from July 1941 to April 1943, the NKGB 1943-1946, MGB 1946-1954, KGB 1954-1991, after 1991, section on the SVR, FSK (now FSB), FSO
Smersh - military counterintelligence as part of the People’s Commissariat of Defense from April 1943 to May 1946, was created from the management of special departments of the NKVD.
Abakumov was arrested in 1951, executed in 1954.

[siberalt]

It was the Americans who "began to launch their little hands into Cuba," when we forgave her debts and began to create our own reserve fund on the basis of the BRICS. Don't juggle cause and effect. As for the "cooling of relations", it lies in the economic plane. The Cubans have refused to lease our tracking bases to us on account of the debt. And the rental price was inflated.

[mirag2]

did not work for amers Cuban Maidan through the semblance of "twitter" zamutit. The State Department officially recognized it.
And Obama’s current reboot with Cuba is an attempt to prevent Russia from returning to its side with potential military bases in Cuba.

[atalef]

Quote: mirag2

e came out from the Cuban Maidan amers through a semblance of "twitter" zamutit. The State Department officially recognized it.

Did Cuba win?

[dmit-xnumx]

- And what else to expect if we ourselves buried the ideas of communism, exchanging them for capitalism? Since there is no unifying state of Idea, then pay, capitalist, in full.

[atalef]

Quote: dmit-52

And what else to expect if we ourselves buried the ideas of communism, exchanging them for capitalism?

Just the difference. that capitalism lives and conquers. but communism remained an idea - and on the way to it, hungry socialism must be passed

[Talgat]

capitalism, or whatever you want to call it - the current world order of the usa is obviously unfair

Printing "candy wrappers" of the US FRS (a group of specifically selected families) keeps the whole world in slavery - and feeds its "golden billion" where we do not enter

That is, we extract oil, for example, and give it to them for "candy wrappers" - but what is most interesting - we do not get these candy wrappers - as part of the "slave" deal, we give these candy wrappers back to the United States to the welfare fund, as it were (both the Russian Federation and KZ and ) - and then the most interesting

We need money - and instead of taking our own candy wrappers - we take a loan from them at a large percentage

This is no longer an economy but a craziness - and if we add here the destruction of natural resources - the consumption by a few percent of people of all the resources of the earth (while billions are doomed to hunger and poverty) - a waste of resources for iPhones and all kinds of nonsense - a cult of consumerism planted in the west
then in general it turns out the coming of the Antichrist is somehow - the deputy devil drives the mammon in the west

Our president Nursultan Abishevich Nazarbayev repeatedly spoke about the dollar and loans at several SCO summits - in principle, everyone understands this and the protest movement began in the form of a briks bank, etc.

You can treat the Soviet Union in different ways - but it was a real alternative project to the devilish project of "freemasons" or what to call them there I don't know

In this regard, the position of small countries - which did not surrender to mammon and live poorly but with dignity - is not respected - they did not sell for 30 pieces of silver

[Robinzone]

Ahem, excuse me generously, but it doesn't seem to you that it was the Americans who were fussing after ours, in the person of the President with the "businesses" and "the military", had a tour of Latin America in the summer.
And then they "fussed" after six months.

PS If you are not banned from Google, then type in the search "Russia Cuba visit", there is enough material, I think.

[atalef]

Quote: RobinZone

in the person of the President with "businesses" and "military", in the summer they made a tour of Latin America.
And then they "fussed" after six months.

They waited for debts to be forgiven.
Why the hell are they debtors in friends?

[Baikal]

"Tovagishch", you are not bastards here.

[Moksha]

who abandoned whom? or do you live on mars? you would think that after 91 Russia lived like cheese in butter ... you would chop off your tongue with a dumb hoe. Russia in the most difficult times, when it could not help, even if it did not require debt.

[navara399]

Dumb hoe ... cool.

[shasherin_pavel]

Quote: navara399

Dumb hoe ... cool.

Imagine: a hoe and a tongue in size, then on the very shoulders.

[andj61]

Quote: Moksha

.Russia in the most difficult times, when it could not help, even if it did not require debt.

Cuba then did not need much: give oil and spare parts, they would have paid with sugar, fruit, rum. But our leadership fell completely under the Americans and actually threw Cuba. But Cuba still has a lot to offer.

Cuba ranks second in the world in terms of nickel reserves, mining of which began in 1943 and increased significantly in the period after the 1959 revolution, when mine equipment was modernized with the assistance of the USSR and a mining and processing plant was built. Cuba currently holds the first place in the world in nickel production. Cuba has large reserves of cobalt and the third largest in the world in terms of its production and production. Cuba also has large deposits of copper ore (in the provinces of Oriente and Pinar del Rio). , manganese ores (in the province of Oriente), chromites (in the province of Camaguey), kaolins (on the island of Pinos), iron ore, asbestos, rock salt, phosphorites.

No, ours, for the sake of the United States, had to break off relations in the 90s so that the Americans strangled Cuba! It did not work out for them, it will not work out with Russia either!
Now Cuba is actively cooperating with China, so Russia will no longer be in the first place for it.

[dmit-xnumx]

- Venerable! You cannot be so categorical in your statements, it is necessary to remember: the collapse of the USSR threatened to drag Russia along with it. "Not to fat" was, alas ...

[g-71]

I’m afraid that Cuba will simply be stupidly bought. They will put me on addiction to all kinds of temptations. In the end, we should not have bases or military cooperation.

[shasherin_pavel]

Quote: g-71

I'm afraid that Cuba

more precisely Cuba will now be able to "suck two queens".

[Samsebenaum]

Andrei

After the collapse of the USSR, they immediately forgot about associates and support of relations with them.
For 23 years, almost everyone has turned their backs on us.
We can see it in the blood - to make enemies of friends and wave fists after a fight.
Rogozin was already late. The train left...
Learn, slow-witted, from Americans to use all opportunities in their interests.

[atalef]

Quote: Samsebenum

After the collapse of the USSR, they immediately forgot about their comrades-in-arms and support of relations with them

Probably good. that you forgot. 50 billion would be forgiven Cuba

Quote: Samsebenum

For 23 years, almost everyone has turned their backs on us.

And what could Russia offer besides grandmas? (More precisely, weapons)
Economic model? Development strategy? What in general
You show me at least one social. the state. so that people wouldn’t get cards
And what Russia can offer Cuba now. what can America not give?
Money - gave little:
The economic model - well, the States will be more successful
Justice - Well, Russia is now far from a fair and social society
\ How is Russian capitalism better than American capitalism?
Or is capitalism with a human face in Russia?
America is near, Russia is far away
Cuba has already been with the USSR and Russia for 70 years - it didn’t give it anything good
Poverty devastation. camber
It was hardly shown on Russian channels. how Obama’s speeches in Cuba rejoiced (I don’t think that's all) but
Know one thing. such statements are not made without preparation or unspoken agreements.
And Obama would never have allowed himself to make such a speech if he had not been sure. that everything is ready for that
Yes . as you all saw Raul somehow did not show the FAK gringo.
I can say one thing. with Cuba - expect surprises.

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

It was hardly shown on Russian channels. how Obama’s speeches in Cuba rejoiced (I don’t think that's all) but
Know one thing. such statements are not made without preparation or unspoken agreements.
And Obama would never have allowed himself to make such a speech if he had not been sure. that everything is ready for that

It was shown on Russian channels.
But Obama most likely did such things without preparation. Because, apart from mutually released people (most likely this is the reason for Obama’s statement), there will be no consequences for Obama’s statements. The blockade of Cuba is framed in the form of laws, only Congress can cancel them, with which Obama will not be able to agree on this issue - the Republicans have already sharply criticized him. Therefore, diplomatic warming may come (but I don’t think that Obama will go to him - it will drop the influence of the Democrats too much), but it is unlikely that it will be economic. But the first step has been taken, and this is already good.

[atalef]

Quote: andj61

But Obama most likely did such things without preparation

Are you laughing Obama, with his semi-zero rating, only that was necessary. so that Raul spat in his outstretched hand - everything was prepared and Castro’s reaction was appropriate

Quote: andj61

. The blockade of Cuba is framed in the form of laws, only Congress can cancel them, with which Obama will not be able to agree on this issue -

Abolished - Americans are pragmatists - they understand. that with the fall in oil prices, neither Russia nor Venezuela will be able to feed Cuba - it will fall warm to them (more precisely, it has already fallen)

Quote: andj61

. Therefore, diplomatic warming may come (but I don’t think that Obama will go to him - it will drop the influence of the Democrats too much), but it’s unlikely that economic

Economic warming - yes America will buy Cuba in the bud and not even choke.
With their connections. diaspora and a distance of 200 km.

Quote: andj61

. But the first step has been taken, and this is already good.

States yes.

[twviewer]

We wish D. Rogozin to shoot at ten! :)

[kompotnenado]

Yes, the girls are there.

[zennon]

Quote: kompotnenado

Yes, the girls are there.

Bestiality ...

[atalef]

Quote: kompotnenado

Yes, the girls are there.

But for some reason they prefer bucks.

[Throw]

Who is Zennon minus ?? She's really SCARY !! Go to real life, jerkers tyrnetnye, our girls are the best !!))

[max702]

Quote: Andryukha G

Yes, they abandoned an ally, but after 23 years they recovered

Brasilia say .. And who recently wrote off the debt of $ 29 billion? Has anyone given such gifts to our country? No, they collected everything themselves and paid every last cent! If you count on this loot, you can buy the whole cube several times! Not everything is simple there, and these comrades will twist their tails right now, because the staff members have moved, no illusions are needed, all these "Freedom or Death" are in the past, now, however cynical, it sounds more expensive to sell! It was before, but now it is much clearer! So let's see whose delicious gingerbread Cuba wants .. (I have no doubt that mattresses will be thrown! The only question is when ..)

[Aleksander]

Quote: max702

Say brosily .. And who recently wrote off the debt 29 billion dollars?

It was not necessary to write off ANYTHING without firm lease agreements, military cooperation, etc. And if the USA would take Cuba, then with debts

[kush62]

Aleksander Today, 13:25 ↑ New
Quote: max702
Say brosily .. And who recently wrote off the debt 29 billion dollars?

It was not necessary to write off ANYTHING without firm lease agreements, military cooperation, etc. And if the USA would take Cuba, then with debts

Well, how do you know how to write off? Maybe in these written-off and rent stipulated hell knows for how many years.

[zennon]

Quote: kush62

Maybe in these written-off and rent stipulated hell knows for how many years.

Rent what?

[atalef]

Quote: kush62

Well, how do you know how to write off? Maybe in these written-off and rent stipulated hell knows for how many years.

Lease what?

[Aleksander]

Quote: max702

Say brosily .. And who recently wrote off the debt 29 billion dollars?

It was not necessary to write off ANYTHING without firm lease agreements, military cooperation, etc. And if the USA would take Cuba, then with debts

[Mahmut]

What do you mean "abandoned" Stopped funding, but in fact contain - yes. So they wrote off all their debts.

[avt]

Quote: Andryukha G

Yes, they abandoned an ally, but after 23 years they recovered

Yes . The Castro brothers have really been not just sharpening our lasses with us since 1961, but fought in Africa and Latin America, so that we paid for the Soviet Union’s economic assistance with almost all our blood, but for all that we received from Lourdes, we could write off the debts of Cuba.

[DOMINO100]

the same thing can be said about amers! and so, Russia did not ice with many!

[vodolaz]

Quote: Andryukha G

Yes, they abandoned their ally, and after 23 years they came to their senses (when the Americans began to launch their hands there).

Well, ours come to their senses before. The Americans came to their senses when ours started talking about returning the bases there. In general, it’s great in Cuba, I was there several years ago. But Cubans still do not trust Americans, for 50 years the embargo has been driven into their heads. And indeed, all of Latin America does not believe them and does not like them.

[zennon]

Quote: Andryukha G

Yes, they abandoned an ally, but after 23 years they recovered

They fed him for 30 years, and then came to their senses and forgave him $ 32. (Really tired of writing zeros). Well, it's time to give him a "debt", to forgive the next government. Hurray!

[Aspirin]

After all the spitting on the faces of the Cubans, they have the right to otvetku.

[raf]

In the morning I spread such a stink, phew!

[B.T.V.]

Quote: MainBeam

And this clown Rogozin was sent to "improve" relations. Didn't Cuba deserve more?

Let me remind you that on July 11 of the 2014 of the year, Vladimir Putin paid a visit to Cuba, so Rogozin’s visit is most likely a continuation of the restoration of relations.

[siberalt]

I watched the last show of Schuster. We discussed the press conference of Putin. In the course touched Rogozin. They came to the conclusion that if he comes to power, then Russia's policy will become even tougher. Like this.

[Mainbeam]

we are going to come to the moon forever. In addition, flights to Mars, to asteroids, in our view, not only do not contradict the exploration of the Moon, but in many respects imply this process, ”writes Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin in an article in Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Quote: subbtin.725

“According to Rogozin, 50 years ago, the United States tried to blockade Cuba and this ended in the United States' recognition of“ its wrong and weakness. ”He expressed confidence that sanctions against Russia would end in the same shame for them.“ If the United States somewhere imposed something, this does not mean that we have to react to it, ”he said.

Only before public policy was allowed, here allowed clowning and breeding.
He came to Russian politics to replace Zhirik, and the same maize as Khrushchev.
Court jester - brings to the establishment that the kings do not rank.

[shasherin_pavel]

Quote: siberalt

what if

The Macedonian Sparta said: If I go to Spatra, I will not leave a stone unturned ... "and so on, for a long time he promised anything. Sparta replied:" If. ​​"The Macedonian did not fight the Spartans.

[andj61]

Quote: shasherin_pavel

Sparta replied: "If." The Macedonian did not fight the Spartans.

Only this was the father of Alexander the Great Philip II. But before Alexander, Sparta bowed, although she did not enter the Pan-Greek Union led by Macedonia. Later, when Alexander had already captured Phenicia, Sparta rebelled against Macedonia. But it was cruelly defeated by the associate of Alexander Antipater in the battle of Megalopolis (this city remained faithful to Macedonia) in the Pelopones. The Spartans were forced to send an embassy to Alexander with a request for forgiveness, which Alexander provided them with the exception of the instigators of the uprising. Those who supported the uprising had to pay Megalopolis 120 talents for damages. With this victory, Antipater protected the rear of Alexander - Greece remained calm until the death of the Macedonian king.
So Sparta did not benefit from her brevity.

[GREAT RUSSIA]

Cuba is too important to forget about it, I hope Cubans have not forgotten the Americans with their "quirks". We all know how America's allies end up.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: GREAT RUSSIA

I hope Cubans have not forgotten the Americans with their "quirks"

In particular, about the mess in the Bay of Pigs ..., washed up, "democratizers.

[GREAT RUSSIA]

Quote: subbtin.725

In particular, about the mess in the Bay of Pigs ..., washed up, "democratizers.

It is true that they should not forget that it was our country that later defended their revolution. Together with the fleet and nuclear warheads.

[mirag2]

I think that Cuba and the United States will then become friends of the inseparable water — when Castro’s beard goes off ..
And even on mummies, hair retains its color for millennia ...

[Gennady1973]

I agree. Cuba is the same "unsinkable aircraft carrier" as our Crimea is now. You have to fight for it. Only 180 km to the states.

[zennon]

Quote: GREAT RUSSIA

We all know how America's allies end.

This is yes. You can not just see and compare. An example is our GDR and mattress Germany. Who did you do? Or our DPRK and mattress South Korea. The same question? Where do people live better and who makes their legs?

[padded jacket]

Quote: zennon

This is yes. You can not just see and compare. An example is our GDR and mattress Germany. Who did you do? Or our DPRK and mattress South Korea. The same question? Where do people live better and who makes their legs?

Well, the "servants" of the United States have always lived better, here you cannot "take away"

[zennon]

Quote: quilted jacket

Well, the "servants" of the United States have always lived better, here you cannot "take away"

As required.

[Appius]

Cuba is a very important strategic object, it cannot be lost.

[zennon]

Quote: Appius

Cuba is a very important strategic object, it cannot be lost.

What is its strategic importance, why is it needed?

[atalef]

Quote: Appius

Cuba is a very important strategic object, it cannot be lost.

Every whim for your money.

[Felix-A]

Something later caught on, on the tails of the mattresses beat.

[k174oun7]

Thanks to the State Department for reminding our Kremlin bosses about Cuba. Thanks to the American fuss, it is possible that our celestials will take practical actions to counter their sworn partner. So comrade Rogozin met with comrade Raul Castro. As the hero of the film "Two Comrades Served" said: "Let's be friends back." Viva Cuba! Viva Fidel !.
Hello to Comrade Carrie.

[Cat man null]

Quote: k174un7

Thanks to the State Department for reminding our Kremlin Bashi about Cuba.

Oh really??

Quote: RobinZone

Ahem, excuse me generously, but it doesn't seem to you that it was the Americans who were fussing after ours, in the person of the President with the "businesses" and "the military", had a tour of Latin America in the summer.
And then they "fussed" after six months.

PS If you are not banned from Google, then type in the search "Russia Cuba visit", there is enough material, I think.

Quote: B.T.W.

Let me remind you that on July 11 of the 2014 of the year, Vladimir Putin paid a visit to Cuba, so Rogozin’s visit is most likely a continuation of the restoration of relations.

[k174oun7]

I do not think, dear. Six months have passed since VVP's visit to Cuba, and what have you heard about practical matters? Maybe they built that Cuba, maybe they helped to seriously strengthen the Cuban army, to the delight of the "American imperialist"? Maybe they rebuilt the electronic intelligence center near the partners' side, but for their own benefit and on a modern base? If you know, please share. Maybe Rogozin's visit means the transfer of negotiations into a practical plane according to the principle - the Russians harness for a long time, but then ... Or you have a quote that Rogozin's visit is most likely a continuation of the restoration of relations. We restore one teaspoon per hour. And the enemy, as you know, does not sleep. Dirty with might and main. Here and Ukraine and now financial problems have arrived. Here actions should be ahead of the curve, and not beat in the tails. GDP at a recent press conference mildly chided that our government and central bank are half a step behind. They have also been harnessed for how many years. Again I recall the words of Leonid Brezhnev: "Practice is the touchstone on which a person is tested."

[A1L9E4K9S]

Quote: Andryukha G

Yes, abandoned an ally

They threw it when direct henchmen of Washington were in power in Russia, they not only abandoned Cuba, but also lost their country, it’s good even in recent years that we’ve come to the wrong steppe, and even then not to the end, there are still many internal enemies quiet and open, but I believe that the time will come and Russia will get rid of this shit.

[Nayhas]

Quote: A1L9E4K9S

They threw it when the direct proteges of Washington in power in Russia

If you are talking about Putin, then he closed the electronic center in Lourdes ...

[KOH]

He closed it, he opened it, this year, 10% of the debt for 10 years of rent ..., though the rest of the debt was forgiven ...

[zennon]

Quote: CON

0% debt for 10 years of rent ...

Lease what?

[KOH]

For Lourdas, for ten years of rent paid, written off debt, is it clear ...?

[zennon]

Quote: CON

For Lourdas, for ten years of rent paid, written off debt, is it clear ...?

BRAZILIA, July 17. / ITAR-TASS /. Russian President Vladimir Putin has denied information that during his visit to Cuba, the issue of deploying a Russian radar in Cuban Lourdes was discussed.
Putin noted that the Russian Federation has no plans to reopen the Lourdes base. "Russia is capable of solving problems in the sphere of defense capabilities without this component [Lourdes]," the president specified.

And so it is understandable? And by the way, not Lourdas but Lourdes, a wise guy.

[KOH]

You carefully read the articles, but in general I will not argue, life will show ...

[zennon]

Quote: CON

You carefully read the articles

What exactly did I not read carefully?

[KOH]

Sorry to make a mistake ...

[atalef]

Quote: CON

For Lourdas, for ten years of rent paid, written off debt, is it clear ...?

3.2 billion per year
Nijeras. for this money Manhattan could be rented.

[Deadmen]

Do Americans really think that after so many years all of a sudden, all Cubans will forgive and embrace their tormentors all at once?)))
Americans are so openly humiliated, I like it, this geopolitical "move" of the striped looks like the last cry for help.

[Professor]

Quote: Deadmen

Do Americans really think that after so many years all of a sudden, all Cubans will forgive and embrace their tormentors all at once?)))

It will be so. Cubans are no longer such "revolutionaries" as they were before, and Miami nearby is an excellent example of how you can live. The Cuban community there is huge and thanks to the fall of the Iron Curtain there, Cubans can personally convince how wonderful their socialism was.

Regarding the Russian opportunities to attract Cuba, in the light of the last rublepad they seem ghostly. Here it is necessary to feed another island-Crimea.

I would not be surprised if oil prices last about a year, then Venezuela will speak English.

[Suhov]

Quote: professor

It will be so. Cubans are no longer such "revolutionaries" as they were before, and Miami nearby is an excellent example of how you can live. The Cuban community there is huge and thanks to the fall of the Iron Curtain there, Cubans can personally convince how beautiful was their socialism.

It will be so. Cubans may not be the same "revolutionaries" as they were before, and Ukraine is not at hand, but still - a great example of how not to live. The Cuban community in Ukraine is completely absent, but, nevertheless, the Cubans (and not only) if they wish can make sure:
how beautiful socialism was.

Quote: professor

Regarding the Russian opportunities to attract Cuba, in the light of the last rublepad they seem ghostly.

Regarding Russian opportunities. They are limitless!
It is only necessary to return economic relations to the correct position - on their feet. Now they are standing on their heads, one might even say on their ears. Agree this is somewhat inconvenient. Money should run after production, and not the Fabricant to beg for money from the Banker and climb into bondage.
Banknotes are just a medium of exchange that has only exchange value. For their production you need: a roll of paper and a bucket of paint. Fantasticists, as you know, and even more so zeros in the computer - you will not be full.
Natural resources are a different thing. They are the basis for creating customer value. Natural resource potential of Russia (oil, gas, fresh water, fertile land, etc. etc.) according to some estimates, it is estimated to be 3,8 times higher than in the USA and 4,5 times higher than in China.

Quote: professor

Here it is necessary to feed another island-Crimea.

If Crimea don’t take it, he he will feed himself very much.

Quote: professor

I would not be surprised if oil prices last about a year, then Venezuela will speak English.

I won’t be surprised if over time Venezuela (and not only) speak Russian.

[atalef]

Quote: Sukhov

Regarding Russian opportunities. They are limitless!

Only human stupidity is limitless

Quote: Sukhov

It is only necessary to return economic relations to the right position - to their feet

Well (as they said to your great-grandmothers and great-grandfathers) - the next generation will live under communism

Quote: Sukhov

. Money should run after production, and not the Fabricant to beg for money from the Banker and climb into bondage.

Quote: Sukhov

Banknotes are just a medium of exchange that has only exchange value. For their production you need: a roll of paper and a bucket of paint.

Well then, rubles have definitely risen in price. Now for the production of the equivalent number of rubles, you need 2 times more paper and ink

Quote: Sukhov

. Fantasticists, as you know, and even more so zeros in the computer - you will not be full.

Well, if you enjoy drinking oil. gnaw coal and carbonate water with natural gas - then yes

Quote: Sukhov

The natural resource potential of Russia (oil, gas, fresh water, fertile land, etc., etc.) is estimated at 3,8 times higher than in the United States and 4,5 times higher than in the United States China.

Well, they’ll have enough for a long time.

Quote: Sukhov

If you don’t take Crimea, he will feed himself very much

Quote: Sukhov

I won’t be surprised if after a while Venezuela (and not only) speak Russian

Yes, they already issue the same mats. when they see how prices in exchangers change.

[Suhov]

Quote: atalef

Only human stupidity is limitless

Not only. Your statement is correct if you leave out the word "only".
I used the word "limitless" to describe the capabilities of Russia qualitatively and not quantitatively:
Russian resources comparable with the resources of all "partners combined", and many times exceed (coefficient not less than 3) each separately!

Quote: atalef

Well (as they said to your great-grandmothers and great-grandfathers) - the next generation will live under communism

The "scientific" definition of communism:
Communism is Soviet Power plus the electrification of the whole country!
Soviet power - was.
The country is electrified.
So in the USSR in the late 80s communism was already.

Quote: atalef

Well then, rubles have definitely risen in price. Now for the production of the equivalent dollar amount of rubles need 2 times more paper and ink

And here You, dear Professor, are mistaken. Let's get rid of the extra zero on the right and save on paint and paper.

Quote: atalef

Well, if you enjoy drinking oil. gnaw coal and carbonate water with natural gas - then yes

I did not say this, and did not object to commodity exchange.
You're cheating, sir!

Quote: atalef

Well, they’ll have enough for a long time.

H.Z.

Quote: atalef

Yes, they already issue the same mats.

in-depth study (improvement) of the Russian language ...

Quote: atalef

when they see how prices in exchangers change.

... by the Brazilian method!

[Professor]

Quote: Sukhov

Regarding Russian opportunities. They are limitless!

The possibilities are certainly endless, but the means are limited and more and more every day.

Quote: Sukhov

Money should run after production, and not the Fabricant to beg for money from the Banker and climb into bondage.

We are ours, we will build a new world ...

Quote: Sukhov

The natural resource potential of Russia (oil, gas, fresh water, fertile land, etc., etc.) is estimated at 3,8 times higher than in the United States and 4,5 times higher than in the United States China.

Catch up and overtake America. Hooray......

Quote: Sukhov

If you don’t take Crimea, he will feed himself very much.

Never fed, and now suddenly feed.

Quote: Sukhov

I won’t be surprised if after some time Venezuela (and not only) speak Russian.

Means will not allow.

[Suhov]

Quote: professor

We are ours, we will build a new world ...

Yes Easy!
Do you doubt it?
We have already configured so many of them that one more or one less - the difference is small ...

Quote: professor

Catch up and overtake America. Cheers......

You haven’t messed up anything? I mean, maybe it was necessary to write Urya... instead of Hurray ....

Quote: professor

Never fed, and now suddenly feed.

And feed if get rid of "sensitive leadership" ...

[olegyurjewitch]

Quote: professor

Here you need to feed another island-Crimea

Crimea sits and waits when it will be fed according to yours? But nothing that this is Russia, with the ensuing consequences?

[Professor]

Quote: olegyurjewitch

Crimea sits and waits when it will be fed according to yours? But nothing that this is Russia, with the ensuing consequences?

The world, however, does not agree with this, with the ensuing consequences.

[gozmos]

and how much dough was invested in Cuba .. and all prosrali and even a military base ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: gozmos

and how much dough was invested in Cuba .. and all prosrali and even a military base ...

Nothing about .. if, just canned ..
Cuba is not Bulgaria! Cubans have a good memory and they know how to analyze the world’s situation and they remember Russians and wait! Rogozin didn’t go to Cuba to smoke cigars and drink rum .. Touring in Latin America (after Putin) this will begin practical work .. It's time to comrades!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Who minus? Surname IP address ..

[pensioner]

Quote: MIKHAN

Who minus? Surname IP address ..

Well, I. Has it become easier? (I mean it's him ...)

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: retired

Well, I. Has it become easier? (I mean it's him ...)

Yes, I just asked to thank ..))) .. and so everything is fine no problems ...

[Stinger]

Guys do not quarrel. I read your skirmish and remembered a joke.
A hare breaks into a wagon
- Well, who wants to face?
The animals were quiet. The bear stands up. and menacingly
- Well, I!
Hare
- Go out into the vestibule. They just gave me there!

[zadorin1974]

The Cuban leadership can simply use the example of Ukraine to demonstrate how "good" relations with the United States can turn out.

[Straight]

Take Cuba to the Customs Union and CSTO.

[Junior, I]

Good idea.
and expand the boundaries.

[Quantum]

Quote: gozmos

and how much dough was invested in Cuba .. and all prosrali and even a military base ...

But there were proposals from Cuba to restore the tracking station, zone
US coverage is 80-90%?

[Iskander 090]

Yes, for Cuba you need to fight to the bitter end. By the way, in such latitudes, this may be almost our only resort.

[31rus]

Everything is on fire, and you’re talking about some tricky plan, there isn’t and cannot be, there’s only one plan, more money, everything else is just words, here’s a direct confirmation, the Cubans will forgive you, but why are we better than the West?

[Junior, I]

And Putin Cuba forgave a debt of $ 30 billion.
So who is better than the west? Unlike us, the West does not forgive.

[Andryukha G]

This is how the USSR collaborated with Cuba almost 50 years ago and did not hesitate to offend "friends" (father's signature (he is the tank commander on the far right) on the back of the photo - Cuba Freedom Island, February 1963)

[Ustinych]

Is the son following in the footsteps of his father? In .. eleven years your son will write too? Behind the photo RESPECT. Cuba, like Crimea, is necessary.

[shasherin_pavel]

A "fifty-four" with a barrel injector and a night vision device, the coolest tank at that time!

[Russian Uzbek]

some convulsive movements among the Americans ... Obama says one thing, right there in the Congress they say that Obama, they say, is driving ... and then there is the "hawk" Rogozin arrived with buns

[feniks]

Russia has never left Cuba. Even wrote off debts to her. A recent visit to Putin also speaks of the development of electronic relations with Cuba.
And why Rogozin ?, then they will solve strategic issues.

[Andryukha G]

Yes, it’s been harnessed for a long time, you need to look at both of these cowboys, if you didn’t get around the bend ...

[Ivan 63]

The actions of the states in relation to Cuba is a clear sign that in their impotent spite and hatred of Russia they will do anything; in this case, they are trying to stake out their presence (so far political) in Havana in the hope of not allowing military cooperation with Moscow. This is a very alarming signal and I would be very reassured if these Washington initiatives would end in complete fiasco. Although of course the best option is not the return of Washington to Cuba, but the loss of Spanish-speaking territories, for example, the return of Texas to Mexico. I hope that this is the end of this region.

[viruvalge412ee]

We threw no one and didn’t bleed anything. They just stopped giving money to the cadets, but they themselves were gone. We decomposed, americoses united in flocks and packs. Taperech, we are trying to reunite while in a flock. Better, somehow, not alone. And the places of basing there probably turn black with oil stains. Remained for us! As for the joy of the Cubans, of course they will be delighted for the most part! The Americans will be allowed new cars and cell phones, they will give loans, they will accept NATO ...

[Vasily Ivashov]

Cuba itself at one time forgave itself a large part of its debts to the USSR, many of which were tasty sold not to Russia, but to Canadians. So, there’s no reason to talk about the former cloudlessness of our relations.
But then, in recent years there has been a mutual rapprochement again - this is a very good factor for our interests in Latin America and for the interests of Latin America itself.

[KOH]

Relations with Cuba, we almost broke with the filing of the same amers, remember who were Yeltsin's advisers ..., these are all the consequences of the destruction of the country in the 90s ...

[Vityok]

Yes, there’s nothing to say, we left Cuba during the time of the traitor Gorbachev and the drunk Yeltsin, and now we need to urgently restore all relations.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Vitek

Yes, there’s nothing to say, we left Cuba during the time of the traitor Gorbachev and the drunk Yeltsin, and now we need to urgently restore all relations.

Yes, they didn’t throw anything ..! Cuba all understood how they were pushing us and all this was temporary! .. They just waited for us and the USA did not sell out ... Nicaragua is the same! Indians they remember good! We are Russian than something like the Indians .. probably the soul ..!

[regulation 10108]

Everything goes to deploy our missiles in Cuba! It’s high time for the pin. Dosos to push something efficiently exploding under the rib, let them be a little bit dumb!

[fomkin]

Only 15 years have passed and Putin figured out why we need Cuba. If it goes on like this, he will finally figure out why we need Cam Ranh. Some of the VO visitors called him a grandmaster. Only New-Vasyuki is immediately remembered. Remember, the great grandmaster knew only the move E2 - E4.

[KOH]

For these 15 years, we were not up to Cuba, we can remember what devastation he suffered in 1999 ...

[pensioner]

If only Cuba did not begin to multi-vector. Although it seems over 50 years it was not seen in this. But here is where the new generation of Cuban politicians will lead Cuba - the question. If anyone is aware of the political situation in Cuba, then I have a very big request to share my opinion with everyone present. Thanks in advance.

[Normal]

You can throw slogans and appeals, amuse yourself with illusions and fantasies, but the case with Cuba is the seams.
America will "devour" it in a few years and no Rogozin or even Putin himself will do anything.
These figures shamed ukraine, which is on our side and which is part of us, and Cuba, which is close to America's side?
Give up ...
All Putin’s diplomacy can do is write off debts. Debt to us. No one has ever forgiven our debts to us.

[moskowit]

If we had not abandoned Cuba 24 years ago, the current situation would not have happened. It is clear that at first, for the sake of the fattened up, on the national property, the crooks had to build "liberal capitalism", but it is impossible to leave allies who ask little for nothing. Moreover, in such an advantageous geographical position. The Americans also did not enter immediately, they were late. And now we may well lose. Cuba now has a choice. Of course, I don't believe that Freedom Island will fall into the arms of Uncle, but now our country needs to make great efforts ...

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Vitek

Yes, there’s nothing to say, we left Cuba during the time of the traitor Gorbachev and the drunk Yeltsin, and now we need to urgently restore all relations.

In the main - they are right.
This is how Russian leaders should think - the leaders of a world power, the heirs of the guarantors of Cuban independence.

But the Cubans should not blame us for the difficult years after 1991. They can grieve, condemn those who allowed the collapse of the Soviet Union ...
If the Cubans remained Marxists, then they should study what happened, draw scientific conclusions about the conditions, criteria and methods of anti-communists. Develop your opposition - and GO FOR THE VICTORY OF COMMUNISM!
And if capitalist Russia helps in this Cuba, the peoples of Russia, Latin America, China, Korea, Vietnam, and also many more countries of the world will rejoice, and some will take the Cubans as an example.

Cuba was very lucky with Fidel. The conditions are complicated, life on the verge of suicide, no big mistakes in domestic politics for more than 50 years - this is impressive.
And now, even in our position, Cuba is an example for Russia.
It was impossible to imagine such a thing before.

[Pomah]

Americans will eat Cuba ...

[navara399]

For 50 years they haven’t eaten, now they certainly won’t eat it. Not those times ...

[parafoiler]

Cuba is my love! The Island of Dawn is Crimson.

[siberalt]

Together with Cuba, you can begin the most ambitious construction of the century

[zinger]

Cuba is my love! only by plane can you fly. you are heavy hat monomakh.

[kotev19]

The official body "Granma" has never admitted on its pages ANY BAD WORDS ABOUT the USSR and the Russian Federation for decades! Another thing is perestroika and "independent" Russian print media - no, no, and they will "show" their "skill" in relation to Cuba's policy! And now what will they say?

[saag]

The Internet was supplied to Cuba through Venezuela, who helped them get oil to Varadero, Cuba is easier to navigate to China, at least the ideology is similar, the full range of goods are cheap

[shasherin_pavel]

January 1 is the day of the victory of the revolution in Cuba.
January 20, 1959 proclamation of the independent Republic of Cuba. Celebrating my birthday, I celebrate it together with Cuba - we are the same age. "Let the ringing fly over the planet: Cuba, my love!"

[reut.sib]

Whoever betrayed once will betray again! I think the Cubans know this. Therefore, there will be no friendship here, only business!

[Dejavu]

Rogozin hammer. We bummed for half a year from trampolines, now a brand new pearl - "US imposed sanctions".

[abdrah]

Raguli on the "censor" are plodding on shit - they smell their fast and terrible death, but I can’t do anything, only morons post pictures -

Peremoga, Fule!

[kill the fascist]

I doubt Rogozin’s ability to bring some kind of project to victory. loves to be in sight, there are a lot of beautiful words on the Internet, which, in my opinion, is not excusable for a politician of his level. this is similar to Kadyrov, who likes to speak out hotly, cannot deal with the problem with a cold head, and because of this is substituted. if it burns out with Cuba, it would be nice.

[Alexey Boukin]

Quote: pahom54

this is not Egypt, which has betrayed us more than once, despite the assistance provided to it ..

And who just did not betray us? It is very bitter when they betray loved ones by blood, in spirit, in faith!

[kompotnenado]

At preschool age they sang on the "Chaika-66" tape recorder:
Cuba, my love.
Island of Dawn Crimson
A song flies around the planet.
Cuba, my love.

And in 91, Cuba did very badly. There really was a famine. And banditry.

[saag]

Quote: Kill the fascist

if it burns out with Cuba, it would be nice.

But it’s interesting what Rogozin can offer - oil and gas, weapons, but they still won’t deliver a new one, so it’s cheaper for Cuba to buy from China, industrial goods, cars there, it can be, but again, China is more profitable, so what?

[midshipman]

With Cubans, life brought me together in the 80s. It was necessary to protect Angola. I provided equipment for 2-airdromes; my specialists, subordinate to me to research institutes, in training centers under the command of specialists of the Air Force helped to master aviation equipment. Then hostilities began, the Cubans defeated the aircraft and armored units of the enemy. Although they themselves lost 52 pilots killed. The UN demanded a peace agreement. I had a photograph with R. Castro as a souvenir when we got acquainted with the enemy’s destroyed equipment.
At present, VNIIRA, where I am currently working, supplies equipment for airports to Cuba. Under my editorship, the textbook "AS ATC" was published in the publishing house "Polytechnic". Comrade Franzmsko Ferdinand Padis, the Head of "Communications, Surveillance and Navigation" of the Republic of Cuba, requested this textbook from the publishing house to train air traffic controllers and specialists of aerodrome services. We must not lose friendly relations with Cuba. I have the honor.

[chunga-changa]

Yes, Rogozin is solving questions there, in a month Cuba will be in NATO. It would be better if they sent Volfych, at least some benefit would be.

[Barakuda]

I was there in the 6th grade. Father shoved into the destroyer on the acquaintance of the captain .. A cheerful country, all how much, only very hot. In times of time .. And to the far east of Uzin-Mangokht on the Tu-95 is easy .. With a shooter to cut a fool. Romance..

[Non-war]

The serious geopolitical struggle of Russia and the USA for the Island of Freedom - the state of Cuba - began. - Wai-wai, but do you flatter yourself? Modern Russia is clearly not the USSR (2% of world GDP against 26% of Soviet) and Cuba has nothing to offer, Ukraine has gone from under your nose, and you think about distant Cuba., , A serious geopolitical struggle, is nothing more than a beautiful phrase for caressing your own pride. Sorry for the truth.

[Barakuda]

How to know. We need to think about the future. Not now, so in 10 years.

[pts-m]

time will tell. what to crawl on a chair near the computer in advance. the next check of the island for lice. we choose, and Russia should think what the loyalty policy leads to.

[padded jacket]

It is a pity that the USSR \ Russia .first "under the leadership" of the outspoken traitor Gorbachev, and then the drunkard Yeltsin and his Gaidaro - Gubaisovo - Gusinsko - Berezovskaya "gang" betrayed Cuba, but at that time not only Cuba was betrayed, all our people were betrayed country.
And for the fact that we actually "believed" these outspoken enemies of our country, we paid 10 million lives, and the almost complete collapse of our state and industry.
Honor and praise to Cuba that she did not follow this path.
Cuba military parade (the newest that I found in 2011, can anyone post a newer one?):

There are very interesting specimens of the Cuban military-industrial complex, I especially liked this wheeled tank based on the BTR-60:

[dimasialyt]

The namesake was a bit late. About 20 years ... I’ll have to get out of the plane ahead ...

[Andron_by]

In the congress of the states themselves, not everything is so clear about Cuba. The Republicans do not like this, because with the advent of Castro and nationalization in the country, the Cubans squeezed out the business with a lot of money invested by the Americans. Building relationships is annoying that rich lobby, which have claims to return their capital. Therefore, the Senate will not give money so easily for this perestroika. Obama has already faced criticism of the Cubans fleeing the regime. So Senator Marco Rubio, responsible for this region, called Obama naive, his decision is absurd and offensive to Americans:
"You are a naive president ... Cuba is a rogue dictatorial regime that contains dissidents in its prisons. Restoring relations with Cuba is absurd. It is a shame in front of hundreds of Cubans who fled from Cuba to Miami, many of whose relatives were either shot or are still in prison. Cuban prisons ... I have not seen anyone in my life who negotiates worse than the current president "(c) ...
Marco Rubio will chair the Western Hemisphere Subcommittee of the Foreign Affairs Committee from January. It is through this body that decisions on the allocation of funds for the embassy in Cuba and on the appointment of an ambassador will have to pass. He has already openly admitted that he will take advantage of his position: "I feel we have a very interesting two years (Obama's remaining presidential term) of discussions about how you are going to appoint an ambassador and finance the embassy," he said.
On the other hand, the Cubans are in a hurry to reconcile with the United States until Fidel's death, so that the world and the people of Cuba do not have the opinion that this happened only after Fidel's death, and before that it was impossible. Perhaps on this occasion, the Russian authorities approve of the establishment of relations: "Russia positively evaluates Washington's decision to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba" (c). This was announced on Wednesday, December 17, by the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Sergei Ryabkov.
The situation is such that the United States is in a hurry because it is losing not only Cuba, but all of South America.

[eztaeznii]

Well done Cubans, they gave the mattresses their teeth in due time. And how many were kept under sanctions. It's time to restore old ties.

[v245721]

it's time for Russia to collect stones. scattered a lot, a lot of work remains to be done so that everything would be put back together.

[Prager]

Cuba for us in the Western Hemisphere is a strategic ally. It is necessary to develop EVERYTHING that happened during the Soviet era and what the liberalists at the beginning of the 90s had to develop.

[dimasialyt]

YES CAN NOT BE SUCH !!!

[Altona]

Cuba retains excellent potential, which can be launched by providing a technical material base, there are excellent scientists and workers there... We will build a cosmodrome there, pharmaceutical plants, laboratories, an IT industry...

[Olga Sinigrosova]

The fact that Rogozin went there is good. Smart, brave and quite evil. Just remember his comments. I hope the Americans in Cuba get screwed big time.

[Yurich_75]

It is too early to celebrate or panic over the issue of the union between Cuba and Russia. One meeting between Rogozin and Castro does not provide information for analysis; we will wait for more information.

[pvv113]

We didn’t give Cuba up to the states in the 20th century, and we won’t give it up in the 21st. Cuba and Russia should be friends and allies. We have a common enemy

[ssman]

Quote: zero12005

Cuba will behave as the majority of our citizens expect, very responsibly. Don’t hesitate, Cuba, having taken full sweep of America’s slavery, will remain our friend, despite past mistakes of the Russian leadership. If there is a question about the existence of Russia, you can rest assured that Iskander and something else will appear in Cuba. Cubans can now play a beautiful game, but unlike Lukashenko, verbal diarrhea will be avoided.

However, there is an American prison and a base on its territory, and we are only visiting Viktor Leonov...

[SAA]

If Russia needs an ambassador to Cuba, then I am ready.

[ssman]

Quote: pvv113

We didn’t give Cuba up to the states in the 20th century, and we won’t give it up in the 21st. Cuba and Russia should be friends and allies. We have a common enemy

Quote: pvv113

We didn’t give Cuba up to the states in the 20th century, and we won’t give it up in the 21st. Cuba and Russia should be friends and allies. We have a common enemy

YaYa, dast ist fantastish. What Cuban things do we see in stores, what is cooperation based on? You need to be friends with friends, not have them.

[Koronik]

“- wow, aren’t you flattering yourself? Modern Russia is clearly not the USSR (2% of world GDP versus 26% of the Soviet Union) and there is simply nothing to offer Cuba, Ukraine has disappeared from under your nose,”
From Ukraine we took what we needed, gave the rest to you, you yourself will leave the remains of your hooves and ears. But Cuba is not Ukraine; they know there and remember the old friendship.

[shelva]

It is clear that the main goal of strengthening relations with Cuba is geopolitical, but this does not mean the absence of economic interests of our countries. The Cubans get nothing from the Americans except the yoke of parasites.

[colonel manuch]

I was in Cuba at a time when we were respected and feared, several times - in Havana, Santiago, Antilla - wonderful memories! And about the Cubans too! I think everything will work out for us and for Rogozin in particular. It’s time to bring order within the country - “shift workers” and “bolotniks” - to account.

[vovan089]

The current people should organize something like the Cuban Missile Crisis, taking into account modern conditions.

[Santor]

Quote: Non-war

A serious geopolitical struggle between Russia and the United States has begun for the Island of Liberty - the state of Cuba. - wow, aren’t you flattering yourself? Modern Russia is clearly not the USSR (2% of world GDP versus 26% of the Soviet Union) and there is simply nothing to offer Cuba, Ukraine has disappeared from under your nose, and you are thinking about distant Cuba., “Serious geopolitical struggle,” is nothing more than a beautiful phrase to stroke one’s own vanity. Sorry for the truth.

And our ruble is collapsing, and soon crowds of distraught Russians will rush to escape hunger and banditry in Ukraine (it turns out that a wall is being built for this purpose, Yatsenyuk honestly said)....

I’ll tell you a secret - there is no rush in the stores, price increases are seasonal, if you want. I can go down to the first floor with the supermarket... and take a photo... District town for 40 inhabitants... I went to the boys from Tsyenzor and took photos, over time, and the saleswomen wrote a poster with the date and time and, laughing, held it in their hands over each display window, because they DID NOT BELIEVE!!!!!! This can’t happen, everything has collapsed for you, cucumbers cost 000 rubles, our media don’t lie... I even made a video... They still said propaganda, quilted jacket, and persuaded and rewrote all the price tags in the store...

An RTR post has already been deployed in Cuba, communications were not particularly interrupted, but they were not advertised either....

[Des10]

Quote: Santor

our media doesn't lie...

So we too - we believe in our media that everything is bad in Square and they won’t last long, and the fascists and homosexuals are in power there.

[16112014nk]

Quote: fomkin

Only 15 years have passed and Putin figured out why we need Cuba. If it goes on like this, he will finally figure out why we need Cam Ranh. Some of the VO visitors called him a grandmaster. Only New-Vasyuki is immediately remembered. Remember, the great grandmaster knew only the move E2 - E4.

I doubt the grandmaster abilities of GDP. It was during his presidency that Lourdes and Cam Ranh were surrendered. But to return it back... In chess there are no backward moves.

[Andryukha G]

Quote: 16112014nk

Quote: fomkin

Only 15 years have passed and Putin figured out why we need Cuba. If it goes on like this, he will finally figure out why we need Cam Ranh. Some of the VO visitors called him a grandmaster. Only New-Vasyuki is immediately remembered. Remember, the great grandmaster knew only the move E2 - E4.

I doubt the grandmaster abilities of GDP. It was during his presidency that Lourdes and Cam Ranh were surrendered. But to return it back... In chess there are no backward moves.

In life there is

[Normal ok]

In general, while we are speculating here, it turns out that everything has already been decided:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2014/12/141217_cuba_usa_normalisation


Raul Castro ALREADY spoke on TV in favor of rapprochement with the states (SYNCHRONOUSLY with Obama's statement!!!!).

[Andryukha G]

We need to raise the level of relations (until we are gone...)

[Andryukha G]

Quote: Ustinich

Is the son following in the footsteps of his father? In .. eleven years your son will write too? Behind the photo RESPECT. Cuba, like Crimea, is necessary.

The daughter is following in her father’s footsteps, but I think the great-grandson will write “The grandfathers reached Berlin and Havana, we reached Washington.”

[dchegrinec]

Cuba is a wonderful geopolitical place for Russia. It would be bad to lose her.

[yulka2980]

But wasn’t it possible to forgive debts in exchange for hosting a Russian base? I think this is quite equivalent. I don’t know what mattresses can offer to Cuba.

[Vladimir-R]

After many years of poverty.. the Cubans got tired.. China was able to find a middle ground between socialism and capitalism.., as a result, the country is Developing!.. The old system does not work.. and what can we offer in this new confrontation?. .., an example of /wild/ capitalism?.. We are feverishly looking for allies.. and at the same time we are pushing away the little that we have.., like Belarus.. Let us live by the Truth!.., then they will be drawn to us too.. In the Union.., the leadership was stronger and did not wiggle back and forth, depending on the situation... and could show decisiveness in defense, as in the Caribbean crisis/.. Who will they believe now, after Donbass... we'll see..

[faterdom]

This is a sign of lack of time and weakness of the United States in the near future. Otherwise, it’s difficult to explain - both with Cuba (50 years) and with Iran (40 years) - they are suddenly trying to get involved in negotiations and “partnership”, albeit crafty, as usual.
We look carefully at the North. Korea also needs to be deleted from the “Axis of Evil”!
ISIS and Ebola can not even be considered, due to their artificial “made in USA” origin.
I think that all the ancient manuscripts of “How to negotiate with the Devil” by America have already been exhausted many times before, and, unlike multiple futures, derivatives and insurance on insurance, you cannot sell such a product to this comrade. Give him souls that were not previously mortgaged, but with this there is a huge strain in the establishment.

[wanderer]

Cuba is an unsinkable aircraft carrier... Cuba cannot be allowed to sail under the Americans.... oh, how impossible!!!

[wanderer]

The United States needs Cuba just like Ukraine. There is only one goal - to spoil RUSSIA.
Everything is very simple.

[pandora]

Yes, it also seems to me that relations with Cuba should have started to be restored before the mattresses.

[RADIK]

Quote: zero12005

but unlike Lukashenko

A friend like Lukashenko is worse than Obama’s enemy. The first one seems to be friends, but then he craps and immediately betrays. Cuba went through a good school of survival. And they will accurately determine who is a friend and who is la-la-la.

[LukaSaraev]

Fedya Kostrov would have lived for another ten years and in the same state of mind.

[ochakow703]

We will harness for a long time, the Americans will ride.

[Yugra]

Good luck to our relationships. Especially in the military part.