Hungary: Varadi vs. Orban

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Canadian edition "The Globe and Mail" published an article by Mark McKinnon on the Hungarian "dictatorship". Zsolt Varady, a man with a fairly well-known name, speaks against Viktor Orban’s policy in the country. In his opinion, the populist government of Orban "nightmare" the country, and in foreign policy is too close to the Russian.

Hungary: Varadi vs. Orban
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Varadi remembers the days of the Iron Curtain. His father told him in those years that maybe in twenty years good times would come for Hungary. A quarter of a century later, Varadi succeeded: he created a very popular social network “Who Is Who” (two years before the appearance of “Facebook”). For some time this man became famous, and at the same time rich. However, Hungary, he believes, did not become the country his father dreamed of in 1989.

Varadi accuses the government of the country in carrying out a "nightmarish" policy, the ancestor of which is Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who deals with populism. Varadi became a political activist and now claims that the government of his native country was too close to Moscow.

In his opinion, over the past year, Mr. Orban has turned Hungary into an enfant terrible (unbearable child) of the European Union. It all started with sympathy for Russia in the conflict over Ukraine, and then it came to the point that Orban gave the West a “shock”, not only admiring Vladimir Putin’s system, but also saying that he was going to build an “illiberal democracy” in Hungary.

“This is very much like a nightmare,” says Varadi. “We are getting closer to dictatorship ...”

As journalist Mark McKinnon notes, political activity has returned to Hungary. Tens of thousands of people took to the streets in the fall of 2014 of the year to hear Varadi and other speakers opposing Orban’s authoritarian rule. Planned and protests in December. In essence, the journalist concludes, the ten millionth country located in the very heart of Europe serves as a “prize” in the cold war between Russia and the West.

But, to the horror of Washington and Brussels, Moscow has “great power” in Hungary through a series of economic treaties that have strengthened Mr. Orban’s government. Thanks to the Russians, Orban managed to significantly reduce the prices of utilities in the run-up to the elections, and his party (Fides) won the second consecutive election. In response, Orban "respected" Russian foreign policy. He even stopped supplying Ukraine with natural gas purchased from Russia.

And in November, the government of Mr. Orban removed the flag of the European Union from the front of the parliament. He was replaced by the banner of ethnic Hungarians living in neighboring Romania.

"It's amazing! - exclaims the publicist. “After all, it all comes from a country that is a member of the EU and NATO!”

The US Senator John McCain recently spoke about Hungary splitting off from the West. He criticized the appointed US ambassador to Budapest. According to him, Colleen Bell, the former producer of the series “The Bold and the Beautiful”, is an inappropriate candidate for working with a “neo-fascist dictator approaching Russia”.

In the meantime, opponents of the Orban line in Hungary are holding mass protests. The demonstrations in the fall of this year forced the government to back down and cancel the planned tax on Internet traffic. But of course, the author of the article is writing, their calls to send Orban to resign is far from what happened in the country in 1956 and 1989 during the uprisings against the communist regime. The current protests are somewhat lacking in “legitimacy,” the journalist notes.

Prime Minister spokesman Zoltan Kovacs says that the Hungarians of Orban are still popular for the very same reason why the West does not like the West: it makes decisions based solely on the country's national interests. “Mr. Orban is a charismatic figure,” the spokesman says. And in Europe "they really do not like leaders."

As for relations with Russia, they are “pragmatic,” Kovacs said.

However, over the past two months, the popularity of Orban in Hungary has still fallen. “Orban’s popularity has collapsed in the past two months. A third of the voters left it, ”says Andras Dik, a senior fellow at the Academy of Sciences of Hungary.

The problem is that the city liberals take to the streets protesting against Orban. They are not sure that the party of Orban is the one that can be trusted and which represents their interests.

A Canadian journalist believes that Orban’s “illiberal democracy” is a cast from Putin’s “managed democracy” in Russia. This is a system where the result of any election is predictable, and no one doubts that.

Cornelia Magyar, director of the Progressive Institute's Budapest think tank, believes that Mr. McCain still exaggerated by calling Mr. Orban a dictator.

Other analysts agree with her. After all, Orban understands: Hungary is a member of the EU, and its economy depends on transfers from the rich countries of Europe. Moreover, the latter are already hinting Orban at the “possible consequences” of a turn to the east.

However, the West has some concerns. Analysts think that 51-year-old Orban is a political figure from those who cling to power until his death. Not without reason, Orban admired not only the Communist Party of China, but also R. T. Erdogan, who had been ruling Turkey for a long time.

of the latter, News we know that we add on our own that in Budapest last Tuesday there were mass protests of citizens opposed to the government of Orban.

At least three people were injured during an anti-government rally. Police used pepper gas, pushing demonstrators away from the parliament building, the channel reported "Euronews".

Thousands of people who took to the streets accused V. Orban of corruption and authoritarian methods of government.

Euronews notes that the rating of the ruling party Fides has dropped over the last month by 10 percentage points. People are disappointed by it. Two quotes:

“This is not what we expected. We thought that the Fides party would be able to reorganize the political situation after the socialists, but we were mistaken. They decide everything themselves, they have enough seats in parliament for this. They just sit in the parliament and push the buttons. ”

“Most of all I would like the government to resign and leave the parliament together with the opposition. But I am not so optimistic that I can hope for it. So I just want them to repeal the bills that shock everyone. ”


Euronews reminds that the protests in Hungary go almost two months. At this time, people brought to the streets the draft budget, providing for a reduction in spending on education and social programs. Among the claims against the government was the notorious tax on the Internet, as well as other tax innovations.

New demonstrations are scheduled for January.

Data from another survey leads Radio Liberty.

In November, the Fides rating dropped by 12 pp - from 38% to 26%. This is an unprecedented fall. At the same time, the rating of the nationalists from the Jobbik party rose to 15%. The third place was taken by the socialists with 12%. Voters dominate the Hungarian political scene with the slogan “against all” - those who have not made a choice. They are 36%.

And only 31% of respondents positively evaluated the work of the government.

The reasons for what is happening "Freedom" said the Hungarian political analyst Chaba Toth:

“The current crisis of confidence has several reasons. First, these are the latest unpopular decisions of the Fides Party, such as the introduction of a tax on the Internet or a tax on tobacco products. Secondly, these are loud corruption scandals associated with high-ranking officials. And thirdly, the looming conflict within the right wing. Voters, who in April voted for the Fides Party, see that competent, in their opinion, experts actively criticize the policy of the prime minister and the ruling party. The political picture to which they are accustomed is crumbling before our eyes. Moreover, all these conflicts, coupled with the strengthening of the power politics of Viktor Orban, have matured quite recently. At the beginning of the year, before the elections, everything was still calm. ”


As for the “Eastern turn” of Orban, he, according to the expert, will continue. Almost every day, the political scientist noted, the ruling party criticizes American colleagues, and relations with Russia and other Eastern partners “are carefully built at all levels”.

The “turn” of Orban to Russia cannot just break off, we add in conclusion. Now the Hungarian economy is tied to it. Most recently, this month, Russia and Hungary signed documents for the completion of the fifth and sixth units of the Paks NPP. Total investment in the project - 12,5 billion euros. Recall, the agreement on the construction of two new units and the provision of a loan in Hungary in the amount of 10 billion euros using the Russian technology was signed by the parties in January 2014.

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    1. +9
      20 December 2014 06: 02
      Entering bondage is very simple, but getting out is always with blood. As soon as Hungary becomes independent it will be difficult, but it will gradually get better. But the tenacious hands of the EU
      no one will be released just like that.
      1. +7
        20 December 2014 06: 15
        It can not, in any case, while in the EU is. Although you had a correct analogy.
        1. +4
          20 December 2014 08: 58
          Hungary is not composed, the country is a whole with es, but this does not mean that the country and the president should dance to the tune of Europe, to the detriment of its economy.
          1. Damir
            +1
            20 December 2014 21: 26
            The EU is a confederation and this means that a country belonging to the EU and its president are obliged to dance to the tune of Europe, even to the detriment of its economy.
      2. +13
        20 December 2014 06: 15
        The problem is that urban liberals take to the streets to protest against Orban.

        I would not be surprised that the Yankees threaten Orban and hint at their Hungarian Maidan. After all, friendship with "barbaric" Russia is not European. The United States must be destroyed.
        1. +4
          20 December 2014 13: 26
          Quote: subbtin.725
          The problem is that urban liberals take to the streets to protest against Orban.

          I would not be surprised that the Yankees threaten Orban and hint at their Hungarian Maidan. After all, friendship with "barbaric" Russia is not European. The United States must be destroyed.

          In Hungary, there was a line of politicians ready to substitute their point for the Americans in the place of Orban. Yes Yes Yes
      3. +6
        20 December 2014 06: 46
        pi ndo sy prepare a replacement!
        1. Fedya
          +3
          20 December 2014 07: 43
          Let it go! They will live for some time with another uncle, he will screw up, and in the new "elections" the pendulum will swing back. The main thing is that Russophobia should not be included in the political religion.
        2. +3
          20 December 2014 08: 06
          Yes, social spending is reduced as a result of EU activities, but is Orban to blame? Famously twisted plot. Again, Russia sponsored 10 lard thanks to Orban, and they will also make him a scapegoat. I look, walkers on all kinds of marches (such as liberals) are loafers, they go when grandmothers give us that we have the Nemtsovs, Kasyanovs, Makarevichs, that they have, and always a blogger at the head. Online store, your mother. We need to deal with their Qiwi wallets, and it will be clear who, whom, for what, and how much.
      4. +11
        20 December 2014 07: 20
        Hold on, Orban!

        I DO NOT BELIEVE in the popularity ratings of Orban and his party from Euronews!

        By the way, you can help Orban with the counter-propaganda of Geyrope.

        Have you noticed? The protest actions are attended by the "urban population" - most likely, this is "office plankton" - a population that produces almost nothing, except for correspondence on "soap", communication in "social networks", etc.

        We need a good tool to combat the office placton - a breeding ground for fifth and sixth columns, human rights defenders and other liberal evil spirits!

        There is a means - you need to support the working class, peasants, doctors and teachers! Then it will be calmer ...
        1. +7
          20 December 2014 08: 11
          A quarter of a century later, Varadi achieved success: he created a very popular social network

          Okay, an industrialist would say something serious, but no, a virtual ghoul.
          1. 0
            20 December 2014 08: 36
            Israeli Energy Minister Silwan Shalom on the first day of the World Jewish Congress (WJC) 05/07.09.2013/XNUMX He stated that Hungarian Jewry would feel more secure if anti-Semites were severely punished in Hungary and local school curricula included condemnation of anti-Semitism in school curricula.
            It is obvious that the World Jewish Congress, with its massive criticism of Orban's regime, was used as an additional means of pressure against anti-liberal tendencies in Hungary, with their inherent denial of "modern European values." In addition, as you know, the Hungarian government with its own taxes on bank profits and transnational corporations cannot be forgiven, even a modest attack on the interests of international capital.
            ps for pressure on Hungary, the EU has its own approach.
      5. 0
        20 December 2014 08: 46
        in a barrel of honey there is always a fly in the ointment.
        1. +4
          20 December 2014 10: 02
          I hold my fists for Viktor Orban, a strong-willed man, sees that there is no happiness in Europe and takes the forefront closer to Russia, and the Sodomites don’t like it.
          1. jjj
            +3
            20 December 2014 13: 40
            And in the Czech neighborhood, Jewish organizations are opposed to inviting the Russian president to the 70 anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz Nazi camp. Say, Putin pursues an aggressive foreign policy and does not deserve it. Well, the fact that it was the Soviet Army that liberated the camp where the Germans exterminated the Jews, Czech Jewish organizations somehow lost sight of
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    2. +1
      20 December 2014 06: 07
      Hot water has gone! They will not be allowed to steer sensible politicians in Europe, Orbana has already been noted along the way
    3. Cat
      +10
      20 December 2014 06: 39
      The left edition (Canada and Hungary are at a distance of 7500 km from each other), the left politician (have you heard of him?), The left fifth columns (Franco did not wait for his own in 1937), weeping tearfully about the orphan who needs educate (rods canceled in the EU) and bring them in line with their standards. That's all this and got out of the dusty closet, to frighten the elite of Hungary - a velvet revolution.
      P.s. a week ago I talked with Hungarian students - progmatists to the bone, most of them criticize the EU and their government, they don't like the USSR, they treat Russia as a platform where you can achieve a lot and make good money. We came to the Urals to see where their ancestors "Ugrians" migrated 1000 years ago. One thing that surprised me was that they know Putin is the president of Russia, and they DO NOT KNOW who is in charge of Poland, Austria, and the Czech Republic.
      Conclusion - a mixture of romatics with progmatics + the dominant of their interests. Russia will be rich and strong, in Hungary they will learn the Russian language and respect us. Let's get over ...?
    4. +3
      20 December 2014 06: 55
      And in November, the government of Mr. Orban removed the flag of the European Union from the front of the parliament. He was replaced by the banner of ethnic Hungarians living in neighboring Romania.


      A very brave act! Indeed, he "put" on the EU and NATO.
    5. +6
      20 December 2014 06: 59
      For some reason, the nationally oriented politicians of Europe are looking more closely towards Moscow, and the pro-American mongrel like Hollande and all kinds of European Commissioners are dull and not interesting to anyone.
    6. +4
      20 December 2014 07: 08
      Now Orbano must have the will to crush the Orange Revolution, for the West will do everything to pull it off. But then they will definitely declare him a dictator.
    7. +3
      20 December 2014 07: 12
      Quote: FC SKIF
      For some reason, the nationally oriented politicians of Europe are looking more closely towards Moscow

      The answer is simple. The most influential politician in the world is sitting in Moscow, they want to be like, they are taking over experience! laughing
    8. +2
      20 December 2014 07: 12
      The environment of Eastern Europe, only Hungary pursues a balanced domestic and foreign policy, thanks to Victor Orban. This infuriates Washington and the European Union.
      1. 0
        20 December 2014 09: 18
        if there is full support for all the people of the government and the president, then it is difficult for the European Parliament to bend such a country
    9. +3
      20 December 2014 07: 48
      Nevertheless, there are enough representatives of the "5 Column" raised by the United States (wherever you stick around the United States) in all countries. Therefore, it is necessary to crush them in the bud, without looking to the west, which you cannot please anyway. It is necessary to deal with ours before it is too late. There are plenty of legal methods for this.
    10. +1
      20 December 2014 07: 55
      It looks like Hungary wants to launch the "Maidan" system. Collect the fifth column and set it against the current government. Keep Orban! May Ukraine help you, which has shown what the power of the Maidan is leading to. The main thing is to use counter-propaganda, and at the right time to use force.
      1. +1
        20 December 2014 08: 25
        They will definitely launch. A very efficient system. That's strange, we copy a lot of things in the West and paste them into our lives, but so far we don't feel the use of Maidan technologies. And it would be high time to "play" the EU members ...
      2. 0
        20 December 2014 08: 28
        absolutely true words, every last detail.
    11. +2
      20 December 2014 08: 24
      Hold on to Russia, Orban, and you will not suffer the fate of Bulgaria, which sold its own Honor!
    12. +2
      20 December 2014 08: 28
      Quote: Kotischa
      It surprised me one thing that they know Putin’s president of Russia, and who don’t know who runs Poland, Austria, the Czech Republic.

      So why should they know the names of deputies :) Who needs these insignificant details. The main thing is to remember the name of the person who is most important there - Obama :)
    13. +2
      20 December 2014 08: 47
      This is now called - to strangle in a friendly embrace. The EU is sticky like molasses, and creep into all the cracks, poor Hungarians. Color revolutions in the EU - this, in my opinion, has not yet happened. They will be trained on them.
    14. +1
      20 December 2014 09: 03
      Varadi has become a political activist and now claims that the government of his native country is too close to Moscow. Orban turned Hungary into the enfant terrible (unbearable child) of the European Union. He has everything in order, his statements are purely in the Ukrainian spirit, as if some kind of crime is being seen here. The era of McCarthyism returned from the fifties in America to Europe. The McCarthyism period in the USA. U.S. witch hunt victims.link.
      http://oko-planet.su/history/historysng/122969-zhertvy-ohoty-na-ved
      mv-ssha-zhertvy-ohoty-na-vedm-v-ssha.html.
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    16. Ivan 63
      +1
      20 December 2014 09: 15
      It’s necessary, what a barbaric country, refuses to resell Russian gas in a sweet, democratic dill (and to its own detriment) and this at a time when the evil, cruel Russia freezes the poor fascists, such a "logic" of the liberal West, however, is no longer surprising, how can Surprise a mentally ill child doctor with experience. True, if the patient is not treated then it usually ends sadly - for himself (but one can agree with this), but also for those around him, who are quite healthy and capable. It is quite possible that a "fixation" of the patient will be required if the disease develops into a riot.
    17. Petrovi42202
      +2
      20 December 2014 09: 19
      You saw in the article-in Hungary neo-Nazism. And this is not good, say the geyropeytsy and penguins. But in Ukraine, everything is fine. There is NO Nazism. All to cut them. These politicians are bloody. am
    18. GREAT RUSSIA
      +1
      20 December 2014 09: 28
      Hungarians began to understand how the EU ends its life, the European dream collapsed, and sensible people trying to get out of this trap from the EU left all the juices to survive, and then everyone will go home. Apparently Hungary is among those sane people.
    19. Quantum
      +1
      20 December 2014 09: 31
      Magyar Hungarians have a difficult story! Nationalism with a commitment to
      European values, especially among young people, are bordered by the understanding that Hungary should be friends with Russia. However, Washington is not asleep,
      trying to rock an objectionable situation for him. All these protests go along
      pre-rolled scenario. Breaking Hungarian-Russian ties will lead
      to the state of the economic level of Romania and Bulgaria.
    20. 0
      20 December 2014 09: 39
      ..In general, as in any country, and in Russia, too, the share of POLITICS is such that he is only one step away from love to hate ... And often, when a new opposition leader appears, and with populist slogans that people like, moreover, supported from outside - the case of the current leader can easily be lost. Examples are enough .. Plus, whatever one may say, Hungary is a member of the EU and NATO, and in order to conduct its own = game = Hungary needs to be at least Germany or Great Britain .... Everything in Hungary will be a word, as Uncle SAM and his junior partners from the EU say, and they are not happy with Hungary, so the first half of 2015 will show: who is who in Hungary ........
    21. +1
      20 December 2014 10: 44
      Hungary is trying to pursue an independent foreign policy. At the same time, the neo-fascists and the ties with Russia all remembered.
    22. +3
      20 December 2014 10: 58
      Orban Well done! Keep it up.
    23. +1
      20 December 2014 11: 06
      Democrats will show what freedom is. immediately press Victor or remove.
    24. Tribuns
      +1
      20 December 2014 12: 38
      Zolt Varadi himself "nightmares" the country, - a traitor to Hungarian interests, - "eating from the hands of the West" ... Zolt is like a bolt: the more the West "winds up" him, the more he "nightmares" Hungary and its President Viktor Orban for protecting the country's national interests, and not to please interests of EU leaders.
      There is a hope that the West will "twist" Zolt-"bolt" ... and Varadi will fly to the political dump!
    25. +1
      20 December 2014 14: 22
      Quote: TribunS
      Zolt Varadi himself "nightmares" the country

      And where was entot hero when Ikarus, the bus of my childhood and youth was put under a knife ?! STSUKI!
    26. SOB
      0
      20 December 2014 17: 19
      Well, if in Russia Putin's "controlled democracy", in Hungary Orban's "illiberal democracy", then what kind of democracy is there in the United States? At first glance, it is correct, real, because Democrats and Republicans are ready to bite each other's throats. However, doubts appear immediately, as soon as you understand that no matter who comes to power, the policy will be the same: wars, dictatorship of bankers, defamation of the unwanted. And the word is free only when it does not contradict the line of the "regional committee" (remember Stroskan). So what is "mattress democracy"? In my opinion, this is a show, clowning, dust in the eyes, a way of existence of protein bodies, feeding on fast food.
    27. +2
      20 December 2014 17: 25
      Quote: zinger
      Hungary is not composed, the country is a whole with es, but this does not mean that the country and the president should dance to the tune of Europe, to the detriment of its economy.

      As an example - Montenegro. When its rulers, with tears in their eyes, I understand how it threatens them economically, were forced to join the sanctions against Russia ... And the example of Bulgaria where everyone understands the absurdity of what happened? It’s like in a joke - he cried and continued to saw the branch on which he was sitting.
    28. +1
      20 December 2014 18: 54
      Not one country in Europe is not independent, maybe Hungary is trying to somehow defend its national interests, and the rest, especially the Baltic countries, are generally dwarf dogs on a leash near Washington. They all understand very well that they are harming their economy in favor of the EU and Washington ...., but meekly comply with all the instructions of the Washington Regional Committee. If Germany, France, Italy cannot have their own point of view in politics, then what about the Baltic states ??? Russia should try to maintain good relations with Hungary, with sensible politicians in France, Germany, Italy, and through them try to convey their point of view to their people ....
    29. 0
      20 December 2014 19: 35
      hold on Victor Orban, now urine from the euro media will pour
    30. 0
      20 December 2014 20: 29
      The position of Canada is due to the presence of a very large diaspora of Zhidobander. There is a war in the east of Ukraine, and banderlogs from western women are brought to refugees. Like the election, so many Canadians scored on the ento business, but not Bandera. Anyway, what kind of own opinion can Canada have, the older brother of the United States will say that it will.
    31. IlyaVatnik
      0
      20 December 2014 21: 54
      Quote: Recon
      It can not, in any case, while in the EU is. Although you had a correct analogy.

      It would be good for Hungary to join the Eurasian Economic Union, to unite with Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan !!!!
      Just one place was freed - the Kyrgyz refused to participate in the EAEU !!!

      As for me, Hungary could have taken this place !!!! wink
      1. +2
        21 December 2014 04: 09
        Quote: IlyaVatnik
        Just one place was freed - the Kyrgyz refused to participate in the EAEU !!!
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