About Libya and Russia

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About Libya and Russia

Events in Libya have become an excellent lesson for sensible people in Russia. We saw a massacre in Tripoli, when blacks were killed only for the color of their skin, and the valiant “rebels” were killed. We saw destroyed buildings, closed shops, people dying due to the lack of medicines ... We see that people prepare food on firewood, because there is no more centralized gas supply, there is no water supply. But there are “cart” on the streets with anti-aircraft installations and large-caliber machine guns, there are a lot of armed people on the streets of cities ...

Remember how it all started? Libya was considered one of the most stable and prosperous countries in Africa. There, people did not die of hunger and lack of water by the thousands, Islamic militants did not kidnap people, tribes and clans did not arrange bloody clashes. In Libya, there was no social base for "protests", for "revolution", the so-called "Revolutionary situation". The population was provided; many in Russia would envy the level of wealth of the Libyans and the benefits Gaddafi provides them. People who are currently killing each other will receive (or rather, have already received) a sharp decline in their standard of living, although quite recently they sat in a cafe where they drank coffee and discussed newsand no one knew that they would soon open the Libyan front. Only some of them knew about it in the silence of the offices of the Western powers.

And now the citizens of Libya are busy demolishing the remnants of their former peaceful, prosperous life. And they are not waiting for “freedom”, not “universal happiness,” but a very long list of “life changes”, among which there are no positive ones. When the war is completely over, Gaddafi will be killed or caught, and all the cities that remained loyal to their leader will be destroyed, it will become clear that all the benefits that provided people with a “bloody criminal regime” have ended.

We must all clearly understand that we are facing the same choice. Our country has long been included in the same “black list”. Russia is also planning to "democratize", "modernize", deprive the Arctic, "belonging to the whole world of Siberia" and other "unfairly captured territories". This fact does not even hide. The next “popular front” will be created, and then people will very convincingly explain why they should go there. The liberal opposition and the Western media will present evidence of the “bloodyness” of the regime, the need for its overthrow, etc. The reason may be another “Russian march”, or a major inter-ethnic clash with a mass of victims. After that, they will impose sanctions. An economy based on the supply of resources abroad will collapse and a wave of discontent will cover the whole of Russia. Our state will lead to the next "Golgotha."
What to do? Stalin said more about this - not to succumb to provocations by the West and its internal guides. Along the way, at least minimally organize yourself - remember the course stories: the years of the Civil War and how it turned out for ordinary people.

It is clear that the integration scenario of the former post-Soviet space is more acceptable for us. Alexander Lukashenko is right when he speaks of the need to deepen cooperation in the field of external and internal defense of at least some republics. But will his voice be heard?

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  1. Che
    Che
    +1
    2 September 2011 07: 58
    New crusade.

    The Western world (Pindostan and NATO countries) with all its technical power fell upon the countries of the Arab world. Everything is clear - oil, etc. It creates a conflict of civilizations. Pindos hope to sit overseas, controlling the chaos they created. Complete neglect of the peoples, their culture, will cause a response. The West will not have to be surprised to hear explosions in the streets of its cities. Any honest man will consider it his duty to take revenge on the invaders. No need to blame them for terrorism, the people will defend themselves as best they can. Maybe my opinion is wrong, but logic suggests such a scenario.
  2. +2
    2 September 2011 08: 21
    No. Third World.

    And the Popular Front is already open with us. And the faces there are still the same, the Vedrosovskys, well, plus more of the Ereri peremeshi. And discontent is the place to be. And there is a shelf. And oil and gas are still huge. Analogies, ...

    Che, my friend, I completely agree with you. Muslims are not the religion (and the wrong people) to quietly bend down and let the states do their job. This is not enlightened Europe. BUT: I myself am not against yet another 9.11 style shake. I really need it. Shake these fat turkeys so that again through the clicks of the pig’s eyes, swam with fat, you can see the fear. Even so: FEAR. So that it comes to every Pindos: it can be as follows. And then they, in a howling crowd, will run to their senators, demanding to take action / defend / stop ... And the senators are pushing the fight. Because as the people's representatives. This is not Russia for you ...

    But all the sweetness of this picture is overshadowed by only one thing: there and then there is a switchman. Syria, Venezuela, Cuba ... Will be presented to the world "irrefutable" evidence of ownership and assistance, and everything further according to plan. Only they will bomb harder and yell louder at rallies.

    In kind, would they have stuck with us or something ... They would have washed their faces with blood and had cooled down on 50 for years ... And there you look, everything would have been better ...
    1. lokdok
      +3
      2 September 2011 09: 34
      Are you laughing Muslims have been bent for about 300 years, only the USSR after the Second World War gave them a little freedom. And now they are bent again.

      What kind of people's representatives talk ???? Senators wanted to spit on their citizens.
      At each meeting, we need to show our rockets so that no one else pops 100 for years. And then usually both warring parties wash their face with a krovochka.
      1. +1
        2 September 2011 10: 13
        If laughter, then only through tears. I do not think that Muslims are bent everywhere, the world of the Koran is still vast.
        I will not say anything for the senators, if this is so - it’s good, because our deputies are mostly not better.

        Quote: lokdok
        At each meeting, we need to show our rockets so that no one else pops 100 for years. And then usually both warring parties wash their face with a krovochka.


        Alas. Here you are right. But if it comes to this, it’s better to wash the enemy and wash yourself, than just surrender to someone’s mercy. there are more than enough examples in history.
    2. Dovmont
      +1
      2 September 2011 19: 53
      Quote: Banshee
      BUT: I myself am not against another shake in the style of 9.11.

      Are you really sure that September 11th is the work of Muslims from al-Qaida? These attacks were planned and carried out by the US intelligence agencies with the instructions of the US government to create controlled chaos in the country, which made it possible to smuggle laws restricting the rights of ordinary amers and strengthening intelligence services in Congress. And most importantly, these provocations gave Pindstan a carte blanche for the use of force in any corner of the globe, at its discretion, under the pretext of the fight against terrorism. Well, how the state is fighting a terrorist with terrorism, you see for yourself
  3. Splin
    +1
    2 September 2011 08: 33
    It's a shame another. Russia is turning into a merchant Moscow. Only profit, profit, and profit. The war has not died out yet, and deliveries have begun. In Libya, an oil tanker was poisoned from Russia, it is like snow on the North Pole. 50 thousand tons of wheat are already there. The last truth is undeniable, food is needed and it would be cynical to criticize it. But the trend is that, we are poorer ... who is in power, the main thing is that they pay money.
  4. Crazyzy
    +3
    2 September 2011 09: 46
    It seems to me that the economic meaning of the upcoming new world order is as follows: “The earth will give birth to oil not for the Libyan or Siberian Bedouin, but for those who are putting the globe in their sweat.”
    1. 0
      2 September 2011 10: 14
      Well yes. But it would be nice to change this order ... In any way. it seems to me. that to achieve such a goal all means are good.
    2. Mesniy
      0
      2 September 2011 22: 17
      Good quote! We must put it into practice!
  5. +4
    2 September 2011 10: 10
    This little war is different from the rest. It contains the seeds of interfaith enmity. No, not from the West, they only need money and influence, the leverage they use - Al Qaeda is also Islamist, but for money. (they hide behind the mask of Islam, otherwise it would be more difficult for them to work in these regions.) But Putin, with my dislike of him, said correctly - this is a crusade. As before, under the guise of the struggle for Jerusalem from all Europe, led by the kings, every tragedy was going to search for easy money, and now, led by the invisible rulers, a trash waving the bloodied flag of false democracy in the struggle for oil is on the corpses.
    If interfaith conflict breaks out, little will not seem to anyone. But, those who started this will remain on the sidelines and after they will divide the steaming earth, finishing the rest.
    1. zczczc
      0
      2 September 2011 10: 18
      Can you give an image of the flag of democracy? Without the "false"?
      1. 0
        2 September 2011 16: 53
        I agree, democracy is basking in lies, but washing itself with the blood of innocents. A skull with bones is their flag.
        1. Dovmont
          +1
          2 September 2011 19: 33
          I think the term "democracy" in the modern understanding of the West does not correspond to its name. I consider the most appropriate term "liquid democracy".
    2. Dovmont
      -1
      2 September 2011 19: 29
      The statement is not feminine harsh, but fair!
  6. Ivanych
    +2
    2 September 2011 11: 17
    It is clear that the integration scenario of the former post-Soviet space is more acceptable to us. Alexander Lukashenko is right in speaking of the need to deepen cooperation in the field of external and internal defense of at least some republics. But will he be heard?

    It is necessary to support the Old Man. Though to start somewhere ... otherwise it will be too late ...
    1. Dovmont
      -2
      2 September 2011 19: 37
      But what did Lukoshenko do for the integration of Russia and Belarus? It rushes about like a mongrel between the West and Russia, and bargains all kinds of preferences for itself.
      1. Splin
        0
        2 September 2011 21: 14
        Why does Russia demand, as in physics, to choose between plus and minus. In this situation, the countries of the former USSR need to maneuver otherwise they will be "devoured".
  7. 0
    2 September 2011 15: 56
    It is necessary in the NATO countries to make the same revolution, military operations and coups. Put your people up!
  8. 0
    2 September 2011 20: 34
    It reminds me a little, of course, partly of our revolution of 1917. When dirty, smelly and uncouth boobies and drunks, strangled, and shot all the intelligentsia. I look bitterly at this. The king is dead, long live the king!
    For how long is this drunk enough strength and mind? And how all this rebel rabble will live is incomprehensible! Most likely robbery, violence and looting !!!
    It is bad that more than half fought for their rotten future.
    This is my personal opinion and it may not coincide with someone!
  9. 0
    2 September 2011 21: 06
    Everything happens because of the natural riches of one country or another, which Russia can boast of. The script has already been beaten up like a well-rolled performance. The regime is declared dictatorial, money is sent to the opposition - that's all. Everyone sees and knows that. But how to interfere? Only by force. The public opinion of the United States and other NATO countries is sensitive to the loss of their people. If they bring corpses of their soldiers in the holds of ships and in Boeing, these countries trigger the spirit of freedom of ordinary people and protests begin. And the war ends. But there is no other well-functioning military machine against them. Well, except that China multiplicity, patriotism, a nuclear arsenal and already good armaments of all military branches. Russia is definitely in the plans, with its natural potential, territory and water area. Other industry and people working in it do not interest them, we never learned to do anything. successes in military aviation and space. China is also not worth keeping in allies, it is a contender for our D. Vostok and Siberia. Already millions of them live there and each of them remembers that he is Chinese. Our nuclear triad is a powerful deterrent, but also with not everything is safe today for her. Don’t miss out on the need to apply it, and not every president is capable of that. Only a real alliance with Ukraine and Belarus, and powerful modern, in sufficient quantities army, aviation and navy can give us peace. And this is just it’s over and it’s not known when it will reappear. Old Man, it’s the person who is a true Slav and clearly sees where the threat comes from. His would be for us as president.
  10. Mesniy
    -3
    2 September 2011 22: 20
    At Lukas’s chair, his chair was smoking, he fussed about what to cover his ass, his Belarusians were about to drive, commies - get ready - you can call to the kingdom
  11. dobry-ork
    0
    2 September 2011 23: 27
    After the Arab countries, our turn. If Pindostan by that time does not fall apart, and to this everything goes
    1. Mesniy
      -3
      5 September 2011 21: 55
      Don’t be afraid, it won’t fall apart, komunyaki half a hundred years ago were wagging that the West was decaying, only everything was there in a bundle, and the Soviets were rotten a long time ago ...
  12. +2
    3 September 2011 06: 46
    I don’t know who you call Pindostan all the time. But if you write with a capital letter, then it’s probably the USA. Why are they falling apart? If you mean their "scandal" about their external debt, then I draw your attention to the fact that they argued in parliament not about how to return it, but about how else to take it. And give it to someone, something, sometime They are not going to. Well, maybe if only China, although there is no talk about this yet. And if we talk about their economy, then it is more powerful than the entire European Union, and they have enough natural resources. The same oil, they have no less than in the Russian Federation. But they do not extract it, but pay a penalty to the owners so that they do not pump oil. Well, if something happens to them with their dollar and other economic affairs, it will not seem enough to anyone in the world, including Russia, because only our reserve fund is kept by them.
    1. Mesniy
      -3
      5 September 2011 21: 52
      That's right, if the states dry, the rush will die a hundred times ...
  13. -2
    3 September 2011 08: 10
    With all of the above, the question arises: Why was the UN created? They stopped threatening with a finger. The former secretary general even threatened with a finger. The truth was that the Americans were not afraid when they tried to blather something, they threatened that they would not pay, and this office closed her mouth!
    In general, the events in Yugoslavia, Libya and other places showed the helplessness of this organization. Is the UN needed?
    1. +1
      4 September 2011 07: 34
      The UN was created with the active participation of the United States and its funding. And, the USSR was far from the last player. This organization, in the presence of the USSR and the Warsaw Treaty, made some sense. And the weight of the Security Council and UN resolutions was real. You can give examples. And today the UN is an international talking room and no more. You can also give examples. The appointees of the United States practically began to be general secretaries. Of course, this organization has worked out its resource today, there is no sense in it. An extra waste of money on its maintenance.
  14. Pinocchio
    0
    4 September 2011 16: 15
    When the United States and NATO from the UN Security Council insolently knock out the "historic" resolution No. 1973 on the bombing of Libya (and not only), this organization has no legal right in principle. Almost EVERYTHING voted "for" ..... some countries allowed themselves ABSTAIN ...... Russia is among them. The UN is NO more, but the US and NATO have the right to divide the entire planet .... Soon the UN will face the fate of the Treaty of Versailles ...... and then the Third World War is not far off. Russia is now in a very difficult geopolitical, military, diplomatic and economic situation. Hard times await us ....... Samples of military intervention by NATO and US forces will continue ..... As the appetite grows, other countries will actively join the alliance as allies and partners. Russia will face insidious betrayal and isolation ...
    1. ballian
      +1
      4 September 2011 19: 47
      "............. Our country has long been included in the same" black list. "Russia is also planned to" democratize "," modernize ", deprive the Arctic," belonging to the whole world of Siberia "and others" unjustly occupied territories. ”This fact is not even particularly hidden ....."
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      Another paranoid unit
      But Putin is delighted - there are a bunch of suckers ready to cling to his feet.
      1. LESHA pancake
        0
        4 September 2011 20: 31
        And whoever clings to Obama’s legs and peeps from pleasure.
      2. Mesniy
        -5
        5 September 2011 21: 48
        To do this, they pump up anti-American hysteria, so that the stupid redneck cattle can be milked and ride on it. Just like with komunyaks ...
  15. Mesniy
    -4
    5 September 2011 21: 57
    You’re cool you call the United States, all this from fierce envy ... You’re sticking out your wretchedness, minor subhumanities.
    Such under the Soviets called scoops.
  16. Osama
    +1
    5 October 2011 19: 04
    Well, yes .. paranoics, like those who already at the end of the 30s of the last century saw the war with Germany.