North Korea is desperately looking for advanced weapons




North Korea is struggling to find sources of supplies of modern weapons, as evidenced by the inclusion in the DPRK delegation of the Air Force commander of the country Pon Chel (Ri Pyong-chol). North Korean leader Kim Jong Il (Kim Jong-il) visited Russia last week and returned home through China on Saturday.

Last May, Kim Jong Il visited China, and his delegation included Deputy Director of the Ministry of Defense Industry Yu Kyu Cheng (Ju Kyu-chang). Probably, the leader of North Korea also asked China to promote the modernization of the armed forces. If China after the sinking of the South Korean corvette last year and the shelling of Yonpen Island by the DPRK armed forces, Beijing will begin deliveries weapons to this country, this can lead to a serious military confrontation between the two Koreas. But China can not completely ignore the requests of a neighbor, and put the DPRK jeeps and military trucks. The request to supply the J-10 and J-11 fighters was again rejected.

The Recluse Kim Jong Il made a trip to Russia after three months from his last visit to China. According to analysts, this suggests that China refused to supply modern weapons. North Korea is mainly trying to get new fighters. Kim Jong Il visited aviation factory in Ulan-Ude. But Russia is also unlikely to dare supply North Korea with modern fighters. In 2002 and 2003, Russia refused to supply Su fighters to North Korea.

The air forces of North Korea, equipped with outdated combat aircraft, sharply lose to the air forces of South Korea. The experts conducted a simulation of the fighting and found that South Korean and American fighters could destroy the DPRK air force and ensure full air superiority for three days.

70% of the combat strength of the North Korean Air Force are MiG-15, MiG-17, MiG-19 and MiG-21 fighters manufactured by 50-60 of the last century. The shortage of fuel does not allow pilots to be trained properly, the lack of spare parts leads to the fact that the aircraft are in very poor technical condition. The Air Force also has about 40 MiG-23 and about 10 MiG-29, which can be considered relatively modern aircraft. But the MiG-23 is significantly inferior to the KF-16 fighters, the MiG-29 is equal to or slightly inferior to fighters of this type in its characteristics. Although most of the Air Force in South Korea is represented by aging F-4 and F-5 fighters, military aviation has around 170 KF-16 and 50 F-15K. In the North Korean Air Force there are no aircraft corresponding in their combat capabilities to the F-15K. The gap between the capabilities of the military aircraft of the two countries will become even greater when next year South Korea will adopt four E-737 Peace Eye DRLO airplanes.
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  1. AleksUkr 1 September 2011 10: 12 New
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    The DPRK is looking for suppliers of modern weapons - it does the right thing. So the country's leadership understands modern reality and correctly assesses the environment in which sharks the country is located. If you completely reject the request of a neighbor, it will not be good. Moreover, given the balance of forces and assets of North Korea and South. The rulers of South Korea may have an unobtrusive idea to seize a significantly weak enemy. And this is already fraught. If Russia still has its own political will and it will not look around, no matter what happens, then we can really participate in some re-equipment of North Korea. It is necessary to equalize the possibilities of both countries. Then you can sit at the negotiating table on mutually beneficial cooperation on the Korean Peninsula. I believe that this will be a worthy contribution to the preservation of peace. At the same time, we are acquiring an ally who is clearly dependent on us in at least one area.
    1. LESHA pancake
      LESHA pancake 1 September 2011 10: 24 New
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      under the current leadership in the KREMLIN this will not happen
    2. jamert
      jamert 1 September 2011 10: 43 New
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      Do the Koreans have anything to pay for these advanced weapons? Or are they again looking for who will arm them on the ball?
    3. Marat
      Marat 2 September 2011 00: 29 New
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      I agree - sowing Korea introduces some element of diversity among the concentration of enemies in the enemy - South Korea Japan fleet
      This is an additional buffer for us - like China. It is in our interests to arm both of them - to create an enemy headache without involving our own forces. This is the same logic of the necessity and usefulness of arming Syria and Iran - which is done (though they receive a reprimand from the United States later)

      But I think that everyone understands that the Russian leadership is limited in its capabilities because of its political dependence on the United States — in fact, a partial loss of sovereignty during the “perestroika” and the collapse of the union. How many times have compared how Ivan Kalita from the Golden Horde during the notorious "yoke"
  2. cVM
    cVM 1 September 2011 10: 27 New
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    with his economy it’s impossible to buy something modern. You’ll have to buy oil and make diesel and various fuels to train pilots, etc. And the DPRK is unable to do this because of this, it’s developing yao so that you don’t spend on the army anymore, according to Juche 40 or 60% of the money you need to spend on the legendary army
  3. Banshee 1 September 2011 10: 35 New
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    The situation is more than strange. Can shake anywhere. But ... China did not sell, we will not sell - there is still Ukraine, which will sell anything if it has it. But, given that Ukraine has the problems of the Korean Peninsula to Sevastopol, there is a direct meaning of selling airplanes and air defense. But not under the hope, as in the USSR, but for real money. But with this, Kim hrenovato.
    1. Superduck
      Superduck 1 September 2011 23: 39 New
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      Yeah, and Buryak will call Vegetable and say: Victor, what are you doing, why haven’t you been re-elected for a long time ?!
  4. sancho 1 September 2011 11: 11 New
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    It seems to me that there is no sense in contacting North Korean dictators. Based on the current situation, the people there are already half-starved with such a government and political orientation. Selling weapons for free, there’s no sense either. The political leadership of the UK, so it seems it is not friends with the head, judging by the confrontation with the South Caucasus. Nuclear weapons can be pulled just like that from the breakdown of nerves ... and so that ... the neighbor was shitty. Sometimes you look at their fanatical faces, and the possibility of such an action is far from possible. They can make seppuku themselves in dying agony. Everything goes to this. Ah, to maintain their regime? Simple people feel sorry.
    1. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 1 September 2011 12: 56 New
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      From a geopolitical point of view, in American terms, Libya-Syria-Iran-North Korea are countries of the axis of evil. We dealt with Libya, followed by Syria, etc. And this is instability near our borders, eroding our influence in these countries and weakening the position of the country as a whole. The Americans have an expression: - This is a son of a bitch, but he is our son of a bitch! So do not completely turn away from the Koreans, who are the counterweight to the United States and Japan in the Far East. There is no money for weapons - we support morally, like America, Japan on the issue of the Kuril Islands.
  5. AleksUkr 1 September 2011 11: 13 New
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    I agree that with the current attitude of our leadership to the problems of potential comrades-in-arms, there is no business, but we need to consider the prospect of the emergence of new people in the country's leadership. There is nothing to take the pose of the SJ. It is time to straighten up and openly express our opinion. Strength respects strength. And money for armaments - calculate how much our state has been engaged in charity recently. It has so much debt, just like that, without any conditions and benefits for the country, that we could wait for some time with payments. Moreover, we propose to carry out a railway and pipelines to South Korea to the DPRK. The DPRK should seize the moment and set certain conditions for us. I think it will be so. And the balance of arms in that area must be established.
  6. Che
    Che 1 September 2011 11: 25 New
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    Gringos force us to help North Korea. Otherwise, it may be -removed.
  7. zczczc
    zczczc 1 September 2011 11: 48 New
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    By the way, do you know that the North Korean government is selling drugs? Moreover, they don’t take the money personally, I give the country for development. This is not a joke - such an unofficial article of state revenue.

    Both morality and ethics are “normal”.
    1. cVM
      cVM 1 September 2011 12: 40 New
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      I thought that the DPRK is also engaged in such matters, Myanmar is officially selling but forbids the use and sale of ordinary citizens
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 1 September 2011 15: 56 New
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        It is well known:
        http://makkawity.livejournal.com/818585.html

        True, our point blank "do not see."
    2. figwam 1 September 2011 17: 06 New
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      The United States trades and greases, and North Korea has been blocked, and it survives as best it can.
    3. APASUS 1 September 2011 18: 52 New
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      Quote: zczczc
      zczczc Today, 11:48


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      By the way, do you know that the North Korean government is selling drugs?

      Here is an excerpt from an article that was published in topwar November 4, 2010
      According to the United Nations International Narcotics Control Program (UNDCP), with the start of the military operation against the Taliban, poppy fields and heroin production increased significantly. And analysts at the United Nations Office on Drug Control and Crime Prevention (UNODCCP) found that huge shipments of heroin appear in Kosovo and Bosnia, in the Ferford area in the UK, Ramstein in Germany and Moron in Spain. Given that all these "heroin fountains" are located next to the US military air bases that take planes flying to Afghanistan, there is no doubt about the involvement of the US military in the transportation of drugs to Europe. This information has long been an open secret, which, however, is not customary to talk about.
      1. zczczc
        zczczc 1 September 2011 23: 51 New
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        I know that, so what? Did I write that the United States does not do this on a much larger scale?

        This is even more known than about SK.
  8. BOSS
    BOSS 1 September 2011 12: 13 New
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    North Korea needs to unite with South, it is understood even in the DPRK, but neither the Pindos nor Japan will benefit. Therefore, there will be sunk corvettes and shelling of the islands. When Korea is united, the Pindos army will be expelled and an independent Korea will make such an economic breakthrough that China will not dreamed about.
    1. Sobibor
      Sobibor 1 September 2011 12: 26 New
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      Yes, the union is unprofitable to all neighbors - including Russia and China.

      But the new Korea will not see a major economic breakthrough in about ten years. There is too much difference between the standard of living in the North and the South and this difference will need to be repaid - at the expense of the South. A united Korea will long be an island of instability and will freeze in its economic development. What truth does not exclude its further growth in general
    2. Marat
      Marat 2 September 2011 00: 41 New
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      We do not need this union. We need to unite ourselves - and the appearance of any strong neighbors and competitors is undesirable

      It is advisable for a strong new Union to be surrounded by countries subject to its influence - enough of us from China and Turkey - but we have grown close by

      Exception Iran - opposing our main enemy - usa
      Strengthening Iran is only one good
  9. Banshee 1 September 2011 13: 02 New
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    The more fragmented the world, the better the states and their allies. The principle of "divide and conquer!" coined not yesterday. Accordingly, any association, no matter how it is called (OKBB, BRIC, United Korea), is not in the hands of our enemies.
    1. Marat
      Marat 2 September 2011 00: 49 New
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      I agree half - that is, the principle is correct - all that is good is saved by everyone (unification, elements of socialism, the strengthening of the state — the prevention of separatism) and vice versa — everything negative (separation, separatism, social inequality and the robbery of the country, collapse of the state and army ) offer opponents
      usa benefit from conflicts like korean
      Therefore, our associations are also beneficial to us (the CST, building a new Union, an alliance with China and India), but the unification of the Koreans is unlikely to benefit us now - we will get another strongest monster in the Far East - where we are weaker than ever after and because of the collapse of the USSR
  10. kagorta 1 September 2011 13: 20 New
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    North Korea is more likely to be China's ally than us. And if we have problems with China, I don’t think that it will help us. And in most cases, just a parasite. And we need to maintain only mutually beneficial cooperation (with emphasis on the first word). And it will be more profitable for Russia to cooperate with South Korea and slowly lead the two of them to unification only (fair and bloodless). And why the union is not profitable for us, on the contrary, the Pindos bases are nearby, the “allies” are on one’s mind, but it’s not yet known in one’s mind, and even with a nuclear bomb, and it’s not far from our missile range to our borders.
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 1 September 2011 16: 00 New
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      How can an SC generally help?

      SC is only valuable as a carrier of Juche ideas, which are really worthy of all respect. Those. North Korea is valuable to us as an ideological supporter. More precisely, we left self-esteem, and they were left without a supporter in our person.

      Now, if you do not know: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D1%83%D1%87%D1%85%D0%B5. Especially, this one: "Juche lectures are given at 200 universities in five continents. There is an international institute on Juche ideas in Japan."
  11. merkawa
    merkawa 1 September 2011 23: 26 New
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    It is a pity for Koreans in general and in particular, at one time they became a bargaining chip of two empires.
  12. rise
    rise 2 September 2011 04: 32 New
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    Not seriously all these speeches that you do not need a union, if you sit only at the computer monitor and do nothing but wait for windows to release a new OS with new icons, the main thing is that there is coffee and cookies. If you are doing business and wanting to poop in China, the USA, Japan, then unification of one people, even according to elementary logic, should happen and this is an implacable fact and we must act on this basis.