Stalin. Annual price reduction

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Stalin. Annual price reduction Under Stalin, for the first time in stories, was created crisis-free economy of a huge country.

In 1948, the volume of industrial production in the USSR not only reached the pre-war level, but also surpassed it. The industry has been restored to exceptionally short lines. After the Civil War, it took the country six years to rebuild the economy. Huge losses in the Great Patriotic War are not comparable with anything. However now The restoration of industry was carried out in almost two and a half years.

As a result of the heroic labor of the workers and the tireless organizational activity of the party, the plan of the fourth five-year plan in industry was completed in four years and three months. Over the years, more than six thousand industrial enterprises have been restored, built and put into operation, that is, almost as many as in the first and second five-year plans taken together. The gross industrial output in 1950 exceeded the pre-war level by 73 percent, while the plan was for 48 to exceed by percent. The pre-war level of pig iron production was exceeded by 29 percent, steel by 49 percent, coal mining by 57 percent, and oil by 22 percent. Labor productivity in industry increased by 37 percent. Compared to 1940, in the 1950, the Gross Social Product of the USSR grew by 161%, and the national income generated by 164%. Production of means of production in 1950 increased by 204%, livestock products by 104%, commissioning of fixed assets by 192%, capital investment by 196%, the number of workers and employees by 119%, labor productivity in industry by 145 %, in agriculture - 100%, in railway transport - by 110%, in construction - by 125%. (USSR NK for 60 years. C. 14. M. 1977) The Stalinist economic growth rates continued after Stalin's death.

In the 1949 year, the collective farms, MTS and state farms received tractors and agricultural equipment two and a half times more than in the 1940 year. The electrification of collective and state farms and MTS began. The number of cattle in the western regions was supplemented by the eastern ones.

At the end of 1952, the last work by JV Stalin, The Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR, was published. In this work, I. V. Stalin, on the basis of the teachings of Marxism-Leninism, revealed the goal of capitalist production: “The goal of capitalist production is to make profits. As for consumption, capitalism needs it only insofar as it provides for the task of making profits. Beyond this, the question of consumption loses meaning for capitalism. A man with his consumption disappears from sight. ” Then he revealed the main questions of the political economy of socialism, which are of great importance for the practical activities of the Soviet state and the Communist Party. Based on the works of Marx, Engels, Lenin, summarizing the experience of world history, the experience of building socialism in the USSR, JV Stalin formulated the Basic Economic Law of Socialism: “Ensuring the maximum satisfaction of the constantly growing material and cultural needs of the whole of society is the AIM of socialist production; the continuous growth and improvement of socialist production on the basis of higher technology is the means of achieving the goal. (JV Stalin. The economic problems of socialism in the USSR. C. 76, 78, M. 1952)

This law became the basis for the activities of all communist parties building socialism and even the governments of some capitalist countries seeking to mitigate the effects of economic crises. This will be discussed further.

The Stalinist annual decline in prices and wage increases is nothing more than an increase in the investment of workers and employees, pensioners and students of the whole huge country in its economy. For example, if a citizen increases the purchasing power, he spends more money on food and, by investing it himself in agriculture, in the food industry, increases their sales and, of course, the profits of these industries. If he has increased incomes, he spends more money on clothes and footwear - it helps out light industry. If he has enough money, he builds himself new or improves existing housing, acquires building materials, makes the industry of building materials and construction organizations more profitable, and so on. If a citizen has the money left from the necessary purchases or there is a need to raise money for a large purchase, he invested money in a savings bank and this developed a savings bank. The depositor received interest, and the bank guaranteed him the safety of money. Such an economy ensured the continuous development of all sectors of the country's economy without crises.

Postwar annual decline in retail prices

Already two and a half years after the end of the Great Patriotic War, in December 1947, a monetary reform was carried out in the USSR, food and industrial goods cards were canceled, unified reduced state retail prices for consumer goods were introduced. At this, the first stage of price reduction, the cheapening of consumer goods in the state retail trade alone amounted to 57 billion rubles during the year. In addition, the prices on the collective and cooperative market were reduced by 29 billion rubles. Total budget losses in 1947 from the decline in retail prices amounted to 86 billion rubles. This amount was a net loss for the state budget, which was covered by the increase in labor productivity, an increase in the production of consumer goods and a decrease in the cost of production.

March 1 1949 completed the second stage of price reduction for consumer goods in state trade in the amount of 48 billion rubles, in addition, in the cooperative and collective farm trade - in the amount of 23 billion rubles.

The Resolution of the Council of Ministers of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) indicated that “as a result of the new fall in prices, the purchasing power of the ruble will once again increase and the ruble exchange rate will improve as compared with foreign currencies, the real wages of workers and intellectuals will rise again and expenses will drop significantly farmers for the purchase of industrial goods. "

“In this event, the Bolshevik Party and the Soviet government showed new concern for the working people, their prosperity, growth of wealth and culture” was reported in the editorial of the Pravda newspaper 1 in March 1949.

The aforementioned Resolution of the Council of Ministers of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU (b) reduced the prices in the following sizes:
bread, flour and bakery products, cereals and pasta, meat and sausage products, fish and fish products, butter and ghee, woolen and silk fabrics, furs, metal products and electrical goods, cameras and binoculars, and a number of other goods - on 10 %;
coats, suits, dresses and other woolen fabrics - by 12%;
dresses, shirts, blouses and other garments made of silk fabrics, shoes, hats - by 15%;
cheese and cheese, perfumery, hardware and saddlery, individual tailoring, crockery and household appliances made of plastics, motorcycles and bicycles, radio receivers, pianos, accordions, button accordions, gramophone records, jewelry, typewriters - by 20%;
TV sets, vodka - by 25%;
salt, cement, gramophones, watches, hay - by 30%.

The same Resolution reduced prices accordingly: in restaurants, canteens, tea houses and other catering establishments. (Pravda Newspaper, March 1 1949)

Across the country, enterprises held meetings, rallies, at which the Workers' Resolution “On New Price Cuts…” was communicated

The decline in retail prices in the USSR, especially after the Great Patriotic War, during the life of Stalin, was made annually. The first post-war five-year plan for the restoration and development of the national economy of the USSR was fulfilled ahead of time — four years and three months. The production of grain, meat, butter, cotton, flax, and wool has significantly increased. The national income in the last year of the five-year plan grew, by comparison with 1940, by 64%, for the last year - by 12%. The editorial of Pravda newspaper on 1 on April 1952 noted: “Comrade Stalin teaches that the essential features of the basic economic law of socialism are to ensure the maximum satisfaction of the constantly growing material and cultural needs of the whole society through continuous growth and improvement of socialist production based on the highest technology. ” This Stalinist policy provided the development of the USSR economy without crises for many decades.

From 1 on April 1952 of the year, on the basis of a powerful rise in industry and agriculture, the fifth post-war price reduction was made on the total amount of 53 billion rubles, which caused a general rejoicing of the population.

How high the growth rates of industry in the years of the Stalin five-year plans were the following data: “Produced national income in 1950 year, compared with 1913 year increased 8,8 times, all industrial products - 13 times, production of means of production (group A) - 27 times, social labor productivity - 8,4 times. ” (National economy of the USSR in 60 years. C. 12. M. 1977)

The salary of all categories of workers increased annually, the pension and the stipend increased. With a simultaneous increase in production volumes, the decline in prices gave a noticeable increase in the standard of living of the population.

After the death of Stalin, and even after the condemnation of the cult of his personality, the policy of regular salary increase was implemented, prices remained unchanged.

With the cessation of the decline in retail prices, the growth rates of national income also began to decline. In 1980 – 85, it averaged only 3% per year on average. The XXX11 CPSU Congress set the goal of increasing the national income growth rate in 1986 – 90 to 5% on average per year. (Proceedings of the XXU11 Congress of the CPSU. C. 228, M. 1987) Recall that in the Stalinist period, the rate of growth of national income was 9 – 12% per year.
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  1. spok
    +11
    31 August 2011 14: 54
    the great man was Stalin!
    he was a true PATRIOT of his country!
  2. alnikar
    +1
    31 August 2011 15: 03
    This is not the first time I've been reading this. If it was (who has the opportunity to ask), I would like to believe in it.
    At least it looks like the state for the sake of the people - the five-year plan did a good job and immediately the annual increase in salaries and lower consumer prices.
    Hard to think about it .... acting
    1. +1
      15 August 2012 23: 07
      It really was .... Grandfather spoke about this more than once ....
  3. zczczc
    +8
    31 August 2011 15: 04
    "The restoration of industry was carried out in almost two and a half years" - eh, since 1985 we have been ravaging the country for 26 years under the guise of restoration ...
  4. +6
    31 August 2011 15: 38
    Quote: alnikar
    If it was (who has the opportunity to ask), I would like to believe it.


    It was, you can believe. The abolition of the cards was celebrated as Victory Day. My grandmother told me that when it was announced, the people said: "Now we have definitely won!"
  5. Owl
    +6
    31 August 2011 15: 41
    Including under I.V. Stalin created the organism that the "traitorous rulers" are now trying to destroy to the end.
  6. Patriot
    +7
    31 August 2011 15: 53
    And here is another idol of modern youth that makes
    Prezik Dima:
    1, allegedly leaving for investment in the states, he is promoting a new iPhone there, raises the semi-poisonous legs of a bush on our market and signs an agreement on the purchase of 50 Boes for several billion dollars
    2 which he gave to a potential enemy - a NATO member
    170 sq. km of our water area rich in fish and mineral resources?
    For me personally, this information was news. Here are the links
    http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1361676
    http://blog.kob.tomsk.ru/982
    http://pravdorub-russ.livejournal.com/11760.html
    3-which does not lend to our economy and the real sector, but keeps all the money in the United States in dollars and US bonds
    The list goes on.
    By the way, his predecessor is also good. Damascus Island also passed to China.
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      -1
      31 August 2011 20: 28
      Film "The Meeting Place Cannot Be Changed".
      Kolyvanova: - Listen, the bond is being written - Bond or Ablation?
      Zheglov: - The bond. What?! (reads paper) You're crazy! ...
      Next watch the movie.
  7. +8
    31 August 2011 16: 01
    The moment of not returning to the socialist mode of production in Russia has not yet passed. It is necessary on December 4 of 2011 of the year to go to the elections to the State Duma, and correctly vote honestly. The less EP gets the vote, the greater the chances of abandoning capitalism. And the more Russians come to the polls, the less power the current government will have to cheat with vote counts. There is no other bloodless option in Russia.
    1. indrik
      0
      31 August 2011 17: 47
      unfortunately, you can vote as you wish, but the result is predetermined. ((Something else is necessary, but the elections are a sham. For example, the Kirishi refinery, how to vote is brought to the beginning of the workshops, and those to workers, well, activists observe. Who doesn’t vote like that spoil life. And this is not the only example. Let's draw conclusions!
      1. +2
        31 August 2011 20: 14
        Still, it is necessary to make the elections explicit, but at will, a person wants the results of his voting to be reflected - let there be a website on which there will be statistics, with his full name, and the candidate for whom he votes. He doesn’t want, for some reason - no need. To abolish the absentee voting form, there are not many who cannot vote, but the percentage of those who vote in captivity for EDRO will decrease.

        Maybe someone else will come up with some methods, we may not win the election, but we’ll add the strength of the Communist Party ...
        1. +1
          31 August 2011 20: 56
          Changing voting from secret to open is contrary to international practice.
          1. +1
            31 August 2011 21: 01
            We will be the first .. although ... it is unlikely to give such an opportunity ...
            How can one make elections honest ... when dishonest authorities control them. If only the CEC chairman were changed to honest ...
            I want the best .. but it turns out ...
            All the same, you have to go and vote.
            1. Marat
              +2
              31 August 2011 23: 24
              I agree that we need to invent something - and we must strengthen the position of the Communist Party

              But something else is needed - open voting will put many in a vulnerable position - the practice of closed voting gives anonymity and greater freedom of choice - protection from repression

              Well, of course, now there are no repressions in Russia (that's why thoughts of open voting come) - but for example, I am an official and edros (purely for example) - and I am convinced that I want to vote for the Communist Party with the whole family - but I dare not openly dare - they can work kick out

              Probably the best way so far is to convince as many people as possible to go and vote as needed
              1. +2
                2 September 2011 10: 30
                Yes, you are right, administrative leverage is in effect.
                It is gratifying that if there are regions where EP gained less than 50%, people in these polling stations worked more honestly. So, there is an opportunity to break through.
      2. +1
        31 August 2011 23: 42
        Indrik, fortunately, if you personally want to go to the polls and vote for the Communist Party, because the head of the department (whom you are very afraid of) will probably not follow you, then what conclusions can be drawn. The swamp!
  8. Patriot
    +1
    31 August 2011 16: 12
    stas
    The idea is uniquely beautiful, only a little naive and ineffective.
    For,
    1-VTsIK, at the request of the prezik and the premium, will easily give the desired numbers to the screen
    2-In this situation, only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation represents the real opposition to the liberals. Liberasty understands all this very well, and specifically adds a pseudo-opposition to the elections: the first project is a clown and a clown Zhirik,
    Prokhorov (the last project of the Kremlin), Mironov, etc. And, as you understand, in the Duma they will behave "correctly" at the behest of the liberals.
    1. zczczc
      +1
      31 August 2011 17: 45
      Well, you know, if 75% of those who are eligible come to the polls and 75% of them vote for the Communist Party, then they will cheat very dumbly - they may not believe it.
      1. zczczc
        0
        31 August 2011 18: 21
        And who does not agree? Get on the discussion :)

        Obviously, if the vast majority voted for some, but chose others, then this will raise a very big question.
  9. bells
    +3
    31 August 2011 16: 43
    Stalin is a good functionary, under him the planned economy worked like a clock. It was necessary to add the "Leninist" NEP - that's all perestroika.
    As for the elections: in the Communist Party it is necessary to change the leader - maybe that’s what they will do.
  10. SVD
    SVD
    -6
    31 August 2011 17: 44

    “The goal of capitalist production is to profit. As for consumption, capitalism needs it only insofar as it provides the task of generating profits. Beyond this, the question of consumption loses meaning for capitalism. A man with his consumption disappears from view. ”


    Unfortunately, this was a bummer. For some reason, capitalism has turned to face the consumer, and socialism is a booty. Let us recall the quality of the "capitalist" consumer goods and ours.
    1. zczczc
      +1
      31 August 2011 18: 22
      Oga, here under the auspices of this Fatherland and sold. More precisely, in the hope of this.
      Instead, they simply arranged for us to mass import and destroy our own industry.
    2. +1
      31 August 2011 20: 29
      Recently, at a depth of 1 meter, a children's boot was dug, lying in the damp ground of 50 years. Even the threads were not woven, all of the skin, even the form is not lost. Varnish just got off. Here is the quality, and what do we have now?
      In the USSR, everything was simple, but of high quality and harmless. About people thought, not money.
      The quality of capitalist consumer goods has by now many sided out. At a minimum, the number of allergy sufferers, excess fullness, poisoning, GMOs, which is still unknown with what will turn out to increase, is only food and not all.
      And this did not concern us alone. Thalidomide is a medicine that led to the birth of children with parts of the body, arms, legs, ears, etc. This happened in different countries. The sale was carried out and then when it became known about the side effects. Only under the pressure of the German government and the media was it recalled.
      They just need to get the money. Our lives and health are not interested in them.
      And most importantly - there are values ​​more important than material ones. Now they are lost. And this is more important than bugs and rags.
      1. Old Cat Basilio
        +1
        31 August 2011 20: 36
        Presumably, dear young lady, that the cosmetics you use are produced by the "New Zarya" factory ?!
        1. +1
          31 August 2011 20: 51
          I myself buy as much as possible the foundation of our production, I don’t see the rest of ours on sale. But I don’t go shopping with cosmetics, or rarely. If you know, say that there are OUR companies. Naidu - I will use. Without chatter.
          But what can I say about cosmetics - I know a bunch of girls who suffered from imported cosmetics. Someone ran into counterfeit, someone branded poisoned. Had a female site been here - folk cosmetics would have suggested. )))
          However, the point is not that. It is only cream, paint and powder. No matter what packaging. They will add values ​​only to the one who without them is an empty place. And then, probably, they will not save.
          This, sorry, in my opinion bullshit .... Exactly, not the values ​​that I spoke about.
          You would ask about straziks ...
          1. Old Cat Basilio
            -2
            31 August 2011 21: 34
            No, I prefer aluminum oxide with an admixture of chromium. By the way, your call to add the strength of the Communist Party (that is, to add points in Uncle Zyu's election race) is pretty funny!
            1. 0
              31 August 2011 21: 43
              Do you like the urge to sit at home and wait until empty ballots add points to Uncle Me and Pu? Isn't that so funny?
              1. Old Cat Basilio
                -2
                31 August 2011 22: 04
                For your information, I never sat at home, I always went to the polls, however, I voted all the time "against all" until Uncle Pu removed this line from the ballots. Although no, I'm lying, in 2000 I voted for the party of beer lovers (love, sinner, good beer).
          2. zczczc
            0
            31 August 2011 21: 56
            And this is what always surprised me about harmful creams - they are simple in home production, in principle. Why don't my aunts dump on a barrel and give someone from their own home the task to pile this stupid cream from obviously natural ingredients at home? The main thing is that if you pile 10 liters of it, then the whole mob will be enough to retire ...

            I understand it sounds unusual, but why is it bad? If you make a big batch, then there is no particular loss of time.
            1. +1
              31 August 2011 22: 09
              Maybe because it will be without preservatives and deteriorate quickly? It is better to do it in small portions, at times, but tights. Yes, and for each type of skin you need your own.
              But there are no preservatives - less harm. Someone does it.
            2. Old Cat Basilio
              -1
              31 August 2011 22: 10
              Bravo, zczczc, standings!
              1. +1
                31 August 2011 22: 34
                If you need to - write in a personal, we’ll come up with something. with creams winked
                I really didn’t think it was a topic for this site ...
                1. Old Cat Basilio
                  -1
                  31 August 2011 22: 42
                  So here too, my dear, is not a Communist Party rally!
                  1. +1
                    1 September 2011 09: 22
                    I will take note.
                    I'm afraid only soon they will be everywhere.
                    What do you think - the dispute between those who want the prosperity of their country and those who are comfortable or just scared - should be transferred to another site? Or do you just want to talk about new weapons and what are we wonderful? For Edinorosov, this is just the wrong thing. New weapons ... If only it came in the right amount not abroad, but into our army, you would be right.
              2. zczczc
                0
                1 September 2011 00: 49
                Well, what, he cooked the jug, put it in the refrigerator - sit and smear ... lol
      2. -6
        31 August 2011 20: 51
        About people thought, not money.

        About people...
        For example, the city of Asbest was built for people, the level of cancer in which was a state secret.
        Want quality products? Do not buy cheap Chinese, but buy products from Western Europe.

        In the USSR, everything was simple, but of high quality and harmless.

        Idealizing however. A friend of a taxi driver's Mercedes covered 1'200'000 km without a thorough overhaul. How many times would it be necessary to bore a calender in the USSR?
        1. 0
          31 August 2011 21: 07
          Most western products are made in China. Under the same brands. Cheap labor, you know you yourself. Buying Euro products - salaries in the province do not allow. What to go to Moscow? There are plenty of people there without me ... The point is not in rags, not in cosmetics. This is trash.
          Maybe idealize.
          And what can be idealized in our time?
          1. -2
            31 August 2011 21: 45
            Most western products are made in China.


            I work with the Chinese myself, though at HiTech. I'll be in Shanghai again in September. Consumer goods produced by brandy are already 3-5 years old than in China - expensive. Today Vietnam is in fashion - cheaper, better, employees do not run to the competitor for $ 1 supplements. Quality control at the factories of Western firms in Asia at a very high level. As a rule, the head of the Quality Control Department is European.
            In short, quality products today are full, but they cost accordingly. Want cheap and cheerful - then no complaints.

            And what can be idealized in our time?

            Kindness, love.
            1. +1
              31 August 2011 22: 05
              Well versed. But I want to remind you about the salaries in the province, this is a living wage. Most of the Russian population does not have money for normal food, and you are brands, European control ...
              About idealization:
              Are there a lot of kindness in people now? A lot to fall on the street fit? Love is replaced by carnal pleasures and calculation. So there is nothing to idealize.
              1. Russian 1970
                0
                31 August 2011 22: 25
                You need to start with yourself! Just go to the fallen, and at least ask what's the matter!
                A normal food, only in Russia remained - in the province smile
                1. +1
                  31 August 2011 22: 27
                  I’m coming up. Yes, there are few. Have you personally raised a lot of people on the street or at least called an ambulance?
                  And the food is normal only that which they themselves grew .. Many are brought from Moscow - from warehouses, there prices are lower than ours.
                  1. Russian 1970
                    +2
                    31 August 2011 22: 33
                    Is always! Even if a person is not dressed well and is drunk in appearance, although he would like to make life a little easier, even with a kind word sad
                    1. +1
                      31 August 2011 22: 43
                      I shake your hand. Now the drunken problem is to be attached, there are no detoxification centers. An ambulance to refuse, it’s scary to the police, for a man ...
                      1. Russian 1970
                        0
                        31 August 2011 22: 56
                        For myself, for my soul, you can probably say - I did everything I could.
                        All the same, we still have a soul in the province, everything is not so neglected.
              2. Aleksey42
                0
                4 September 2011 22: 34
                I agree completely! I can add that, say, high-quality Russian shoes (though you still need to look for them) are also not accessible to many! Like so much more.
        2. +1
          31 August 2011 22: 13
          They did not know about the harmfulness of asbestos.
          And now they sell their homeland for the crankshaft.
          1. -2
            31 August 2011 22: 54
            They did not know about the harmfulness of asbestos.
            And now they sell their homeland for the crankshaft.


            They knew, therefore, and kept secret. They didn’t put asbestos insulation on merchant ships because they didn’t allow them to enter Europe, they put passenger cars on caring for people.
            Do you use exclusively domestic as a true patriot?
            1. +2
              31 August 2011 23: 21
              I’m not a patriot, I’m a realist, I know one thing, in order to wear jeans you don’t have to ruin the country. Tell me the countries that voluntarily broke up, and then went to build up their economy and began to live like in a fairy tale.
              Apart from the union of countries into unions, nothing helps.
              1. -6
                31 August 2011 23: 36
                Czech Republic and Slovakia. The Czech Republic lives better than before. I don’t know about Slovakia. Do you see Armenia and Azerbaijan in one country?
                The USSR was an artificial formation that burst like a soap bubble in the first wind.
                1. +1
                  31 August 2011 23: 50
                  HA, HA! Both Czech Republic and Slovakia have long joined the EuroUNION, therefore, still live.
                  Armenia and Azerbaijan, I not only see, but also saw in the USSR, at that time they did not have war and death.
                  1. -4
                    1 September 2011 10: 06
                    Well, yes, Sumgait happened 3 years before the death of the USSR.
                    The Czech Republic would have lived without the European Union, which is more likely economic than political. Big brother is not there.
                    They separated from Slovakia at the first opportunity. They did not wait for a long time and no one regrets.
                    1. +2
                      1 September 2011 15: 35
                      As soon as Gorbachev came and Sumgayit happened, during his reign all the achievements went to dust and the whole country collapsed.
                      Any state can live without the European Union, but at what level? For some reason, all the Warsaw Pact countries have rushed into another union from one Soviet Union. But what about independence? Economic dependence entails political, one without the other is impossible.
                      1. Marat
                        0
                        2 September 2011 23: 41
                        Great argument, Figwam! The correct position!
                2. -1
                  1 September 2011 09: 06
                  First wind, speak ...
                  And what about 1941-45?
      3. Aleksey42
        0
        4 September 2011 22: 30
        In the USSR there were the best GOSTs, SNiPs, SanPiNs, etc. Much depended on the director of a particular factory. But remember how everyone stood in line for imported furniture, I remember (in the late 80s) how they stormed the store, where imported consumer goods were sold to our miners for coupons. Then it was called Japanese, but now I understand that much was from China.
  11. Patriot
    +2
    31 August 2011 17: 47
    SVD

    My friend. You think like a little baby I'm sorry.

    NOT ONE DEMAND ...
    1. 0
      31 August 2011 19: 05
      Of course not consumer goods. But we did want freedom, freedom in everything. The country was sold for rags and chewing gum. As Naina Yeltsin said, before him in the shops the shelves were empty and there were some exotic fruits (kiwi for example). At present, there is plenty of everything. But not everyone can even buy enough bread. The Chinese, if you remember, all wore the same clothes. Now we walk in all Chinese. And for some reason we are not indignant as before. And our successful managers are doing everything to make our, Russian, completely disappear from the shelves. There you have freedom. Go for it.
    2. 0
      31 August 2011 19: 12
      Unfortunately, they too! The collapse of the USSR, including led to empty store shelves, and coupons for meat, butter, sugar, etc. What Stalin left was returned again, and they lost (to the phrase (Absolutely true!) That with the cancellation of the cards, we definitely won! My father told me how happy they were to be canceled!).
      And with Stalin's "heirs" in stores (we don't take Moscow) from 4 varieties of butter (Vologda 3rub80 kopecks / kg, simple 3,60 rubles / kg, salted 3,50 rubles / kg, chocolate 3,40 rubles / kg) in 1964, by 1974, nothing remained - this is from personal observations (the place of Rybinsk, Yaroslavl region, is an industrial center with a population of up to 250 thousand people, NPO Saturn works there, which makes engines for aircraft, including "Superjet" and T-50) And what the population of the city with two dozen factories of union subordination had to eat, and how to defend the CPSU and the USSR ?!
  12. +1
    31 August 2011 18: 01
    If the growth of wages is less than the growth of labor productivity, then this is normal; if on the contrary, as with Gorbachev, then we all know how it ended (wild inflation). And after the war, the transition from war communism in the rear to the side of increasing the well-being of citizens was easy, since even so this well-being was below the plinth.
    Py.Sy Who does not go to the polls, then votes for EdRo, definitely.
  13. Old Cat Basilio
    -3
    31 August 2011 18: 10
    The author of that. got smoked ?! Did you forget the hunger of the 46th? My cousin, who before the revolution fought in sparring with Ivan Poddubny, died that year of starvation. Because the prices have been reduced, damn it!
    1. 0
      15 August 2012 23: 25
      And the fact that only a year after the war has passed - how is it, does not count? Most N / A was still in ruins - what do you want? Sit on the priest evenly and everything will appear?
  14. +1
    31 August 2011 18: 57
    The article is very instructive. But, unfortunately, our tandem and their entourage do not read such articles. The instructive figures and examples of a truly state approach to solving national economic problems are given. Although if you look closely at the indicators, they are the same as now, just the opposite. Then they reduced, and now they increase without a twinge of conscience. The economy worked, the quality of life improved. We shout about the power of the CPSU. But then the party put really state experts on state posts and regardless of party affiliation. Take Democrat Sobchak. He joined the party a year, if I’m not mistaken, before the collapse of the USSR, and then, in a flashy manner, tore off his party card. Now compare the economy, defense, and all of any significant sectors with effective managers, and only EdRo members. They do not care where and what to manage. Do you feel the difference? That's why we have collapse everywhere. No growth. Only claims to the USSR that it has already been exhausted and will have to produce something ourselves. If you do not remove EdRo from power, we will still be tormented. If the West does not accept us, given our weakness, the Middle East option is to restore order in our country.
  15. Patriot
    0
    31 August 2011 19: 14
    AleksUkr

    Respected.
    It's time for all of us to get used to the fact that this "tandem", whether it is not okay is interested only in the country dying. As they say in their deeds, recognize them.
    OPEN THE SAME EYES, REMOVE PINK GLASSES!

    For 11 years of his government tandem, I do not know a single right decision, IMPORTANT for our country. If only a beautiful decision 080808. And even then, for me this is a complete failure of the "mid, army and intelligence".
    But what do foreigners write about those events
    "Who should learn a lesson from the Georgian events of 2008 is Russia. By recognizing Abkhazia and South Ossetia Russia has not achieved anything; on the contrary, it has spoiled its already spoiled image in the world. Look who supported Russia in this issue - Venezuela, Nauru, Nicaragua. Even the microscopic state of Vanuatu decided not to get involved with it. This entire campaign in August 2008 showed that Russia has no allies, no normal army and no diplomacy. So let Medvedev think about these issues.

    http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1432680.html
    1. -2
      31 August 2011 19: 34
      I don’t have and did not have pink glasses. I am not so naive as to fully support our tandem. What they sent to Russia is visible without any points. They only remember us before the election. They do not think about improving life. They show the prices they need. They report successes in a timely manner - as Serdyukov recently reported on the successful launch of the Mace. But the fact that no one wants to carry out their instructions is probably all the same to them. The main thing is to crow in time. And there the grass does not grow.
  16. +4
    31 August 2011 20: 46
    Dear commentators and at the same time doubting the advisability of voting in elections to the State Duma. What do you want? Sit at the PC to write your smart comments, and wait for the Chinese to come and restore socialism to us. They will be able to, but only our faces will turn yellow after that.
    Surrender without a fight, and admit defeated in advance is not in the Russian character. Indeed, at present, a unique situation has arisen in Russia.
    1. The US and the West are opposed to Putin (if this is not a major political misinformation).
    2. There are many dissatisfied with the outcome of the tandem’s rule in Russia, and they know about it. Therefore, the Putin Front was urgently created to attract new supporters of United Russia.
    3. There is no serious right-wing opposition in the country, Prokhorov hasn’t counted yet, they won’t have time to untwist it, there’s not enough time.
    There is no method against scrap except for other scrap. In the last elections in the State Duma, in our regional center at one polling station, the representative of the Communist Party noted that something was wrong with the vote count. A commission was created that revealed the illegal stuffing of more than 300 ballots.
    The election was canceled in court. Instead of 300, the EP lost more than 4000 votes, which it received legally. The perpetrators were prosecuted.
    Join the Communist Party, or offer your local Communist Party district committee your assistance in the election as an observer from the Communist Party.
    But, to sit back and wait for a happy future for yourself and your descendants, complaining on the Internet about a bad tandem. it's worse than meanness.
    1. +2
      31 August 2011 21: 37
      That's right, you can wait for someone to do all the work for you, this is called taking the hot chestnuts out of the fire with the wrong hands. And who will do it? We will all sit and wait - without new injections, the Communist Party will not be able to do anything against this gang of thieves and bandits. Read their programs. If you agree with them - act! I know how elections are held - CPRF observers are simply wiped from the tables during the counting, then it’s a matter of technology ...
      Therefore - come to the polls, observers or voters, you can - go to the Communist Party.
      stas, I support your every word.
      1. +1
        31 August 2011 21: 41
        A nation unable to defend itself, at least not worthy of respect.
        1. +1
          31 August 2011 22: 33
          Solodova! thanks for the support. However, where are our men who are capable not only of reproduction, but also with whom you can go into intelligence.
          1. +2
            31 August 2011 22: 41
            You just said what I thought about myself ... Guys are there ... they just swing for a long time ...
    2. ballian
      -6
      31 August 2011 22: 04
      Another propaganda - especially amused by the "decline in prices for televisions" - in 1949 :))))))))
      In reality, the regiments of state. stores were empty and empty, and prices were many times higher than pre-war.
      It’s even too lazy to recall that in 47 a robbery monetary reform was carried out.
      1. Old Cat Basilio
        0
        31 August 2011 22: 32
        Lord, ballian, still remind them of the Novocherkassk shooting of 1962. There, presumably, the workers protested against lower prices !!!
        1. +2
          31 August 2011 23: 35
          Remember 1993, probably also for bazaar prices.
          1. Old Cat Basilio
            -1
            1 September 2011 00: 06
            The stump is clear, dear folks, just do not confuse the political dismantling of 1993, with the protest of the hard workers of 1962, which, specifically, did not have enough salary for grub!
            1. +2
              1 September 2011 15: 43
              You know, in 1993 there wasn’t much to eat either, and that was Uncle Bori’s policy, which was opposed by the deputies elected by the people.
      2. 0
        1 September 2011 09: 12
        Excuse me, did you live then?
        I doubt it.
        Did someone tell you about this?
        Hardly. Although, if one of your relatives was a dissident, then it is possible.
        And enlighten me that the predatory was in monetary reform?
        1. Old Cat Basilio
          -1
          1 September 2011 10: 49
          Do not hesitate! True, I was 3 years old then, but in order to know about the event, you don't have to be a participant. Have you, for example, heard about the Battle of Borodino? If yes, then one must think, did you participate in it?
  17. +3
    31 August 2011 22: 22
    It is too lazy to remind that predatory reform has been under way for 20 years now, the people have robbed both the state and the pyramid schemes, several times, the communists are just young men, compared to the Leberasts.
  18. posnevad
    -5
    1 September 2011 00: 45
    Gracious gentlemen.
    It creates an impression that the participants (with the exception of a few) of the discussion of this article, if one may say so, have never lived under socialism because of their youth, or have remained in an infantile state having been mutilated by Bolshevik propaganda since childhood.
    "After the Civil War, it took the country six years to rebuild the economy."
    And what kind of farm are we talking about? How is it, excuse the naivety, for six years it was possible to "restore" the elite of the Russian peasantry, physically destroyed by the communists?
    What the hell are you discussing this about? To talk about the positive aspects of socialism is just as immoral and how to discuss the positive aspects of the Gulag concentration camps. By the way, how to take into account the slave labor of millions in the rainbow of numbers of achievements?
    Not interested? Maybe the great leader of the peoples mentioned somewhere in his writings "The economic problems of socialism in the USSR"?

    Why won't anyone drop a tear for our innocently murdered ancestors? For what? For what? For this: "As a result of the heroic labor of the workers and the tireless organizational activity of the party, the plan for the fourth five-year plan in industry was fulfilled in four years and three months."
    That's exactly "tireless activity".
    So my great-grandfathers and so plowed without five years under the terrible royal regime. And they lived in abundance and did not lie drunk under the fence.
    And with a hangover did not rave about the bright kingdom of socialism. Yes, and I doubt that there was a need to hangover. it’s not for you to farm on the collective farm.
    They worked for themselves, and did not even hire drunk employees.

    They ruined a normal, not great Russia, namely a normal country. No worse and no better than others. Not a stillborn chimera, but a completely normal country. With its own traditions and features. Walking in the foot, perhaps not far ahead of the others, but among all other civilized countries. Understand. We were a normal state. Not a scarecrow. What are you proud of? Was the USSR afraid?
    But how was it not to be afraid? What else could the USSR offer to the rest of the world besides tank columns?
    Who remembers the Soviet-era joke about replacing the old state. coat of arms for a new one? Instead of sickles and hammers, it was proposed to portray Cupid.
    This was explained as follows: "With a bare ass, with hands full of weapons, we climb to everyone with our love."
    That's it guys.
    The answer is not me but myself. Is it worth praising the virtue of sheltered orphans if he made them orphans.
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      -5
      1 September 2011 01: 12
      Hold on, posnevad, now cling!
      1. Marat
        +1
        2 September 2011 23: 52
        Posnevad, Old Cat Basilio, FoMaS - you are all clear anti-Soviet and anti-communists (almost the same thing) Surely you are against the reunification of the republics and the exit from the dollar zone
        1. posnevad
          0
          4 September 2011 03: 11
          I thank everyone who paid attention to my humble person.
          Special thanks to Comrade Junior Lieutenant Marat.
          So I put "obvious anti-Soviet and anti-communists" on the list.
          Flattered. But for example, in the years 37-38 of the last century, I would not have been laughing. And to the gentlemen "Old cat Basilio" and "FoMaS" who inadvertently expressed their opinion. You look and would meet somewhere ... near the wall.
          But thank God the times are not the same. Are you longing, Marat, for the past? Admit it! And then all that remains of the means of influencing the mouse with a minus. I’ll throw a plus sign to you, you look and they will appropriate an asterisk.
          The monarchist of me is also not particularly. I consider Nicholas one of the main culprits of everything that has come. But that is a different topic.
          Not an excuse, I just wanted to be understood correctly.
    2. -6
      1 September 2011 01: 55
      Great comment. Perhaps he will at least slightly enlighten the admirers of the Marxist-communist nonsense, of whom a huge number have gathered here.
      1. alnikar
        +4
        1 September 2011 08: 35
        FoMaS here, the majority, if you do not understand, do not talk about how they adore and want to return to a bright communist future, but that there was an effective system of governance and state support if the previous 70 passed under the name of fascism / tsarism / imperialism ( emphasize necessary), the essence is not in the name of the essence of the affairs of the state.
        Posnevad and if you read related articles on this topic, then in the majority no one will argue that there were victims of the people - the question is that they at least were not in vain, the country grew and was built, and these bastards are now with annual population losses of 1 million people / year they can’t do anything.
      2. 0
        4 September 2011 18: 43
        Remind us of your ravings. Your followers don’t even have them. They’re not able to mumble something!
        1. 0
          4 September 2011 21: 41
          AleksUkr ... Fool, remember what postulates are used as the basis of Marxist tales about "a just society in a bright future" and you will understand that all this fantasy is impossible in a prince!
    3. +3
      1 September 2011 09: 16
      pasnevad, you obviously didn’t get on your tram by mistake, you need to go to Chubais, Svanidze and other democrats who plundered and seized our country and its national wealth.
      No one denies the mistakes made in the initial stage of the development of the USSR, but the capitalist world has brought us even more victims, more than 27 million people died in the years of the Great Patriotic War, and more than 60 million people died in World War II.
      Under current democrats, the population of Russia is declining annually by almost a million people without war. Moreover, Russia has never had such an amount of financial resources before. And the majority of people barely make ends meet and simply survive, and you think that this course of Russia's development should be continued further. In a short historical period, socialist China was able to reach leading positions in the world. Under capitalism, he would hardly have succeeded.
      1. posnevad
        -2
        4 September 2011 03: 13
        Stas:
        To attribute me to the Democrats is also not worth it. I will tell you a secret. I am non-partisan.
        Thank you for your recognition:
        "No one denies the mistakes made in the initial stage of development of the USSR"
        Based on what you said below, by "mistakes" you mean human lives. Right?
        Then how to understand what you said? How is it more justified for "mistakes"?

        "but the capitalist world brought us even more sacrifices, more than 27 million people died during the Great Patriotic War alone, and more than 60 million people died in World War II."

        Is it time to stop exchanging human destinies for the sake of a red word?

        China made the only right choice before the threat of complete collapse according to the scenario of the USSR multiplied by the degree of backwardness from the same USSR.
        By the way, he began this at a time when Mikhail Sergeyevich carried nonsense on central television.
        In exchange for political stability, China got the opportunity to join Western technology and step into the 1921st century. But one should not build illusions about the plans of the Chinese leadership for the future. Yes, the West does not build and did not build in relation to the USSR and the post-Soviet space. The life of an ordinary Chinese has changed for the better and I want to believe that they will not suffer the fate of those who believed in the NEP in XNUMX because they have no special choice.
  19. +2
    1 September 2011 09: 34
    Quote: posnevad
    It creates an impression that the participants (with the exception of a few) of the discussion of this article, if one may say so, have never lived under socialism because of their youth, or have remained in an infantile state having been mutilated by Bolshevik propaganda since childhood.


    I lived under socialism. I am not in infantile state. Since childhood, not mutilated by anything, I can lay out the scan help.

    By the way, they write "imprint", "Bolshevik" and "propaganda". But this is so, by the way.

    Quote: posnevad
    What the hell are you discussing this? Talking about the positive aspects of socialism is also immoral and how to discuss the positive aspects of the concentration camps of the Gulag.


    Well, let's talk about the positive aspects of capitalism ... But this is no less immoral, as well as discussing the positive aspects of the events in Yugoslavia, Panama, Grenada, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.

    Quote: posnevad
    Why no one will drop a tear on our ancestors killed by innocents?


    Hmm ... You know, apparently, according to your ancestors, Solzhenitsyn and his ilk had already wept. I'm not going to drop yours. I have enough of my own, for whom there is a mention to fix, but this is PERSONALLY my business. Not for hanging on public display.

    Quote: posnevad
    Not a stillborn chimera, but a completely normal country. With its traditions and features. Walking in step, perhaps far from ahead of others, but among all other civilized countries. Understand. We were a normal state. Do not scare.


    You were not a normal state. And an ordinary backward agrarian country. Edible appendage. Now - raw materials. But the parallel is traced. And you did not keep pace with anyone. Read on historical sites, enlighten yourself. And you were a horror story, Europe saw what foreign correspondents were filming, and from the tricks of Alexander III Europe wasn’t something that they threw at it, shook it. But no one dared to fart, so feared. Because the second or third fleet largest and largest army in the world.

    The verdict: clearly a monarchist from the number of modern, black and yellow. And, as the main black-and-yellow majority, except for nothing confirmed facts, can not operate. Well, tears on the theme of Russia, which we lost.
    1. +6
      1 September 2011 09: 43
      Bravo! Let me add lyrics quote posnevad :
      Who remembers the Soviet-era joke about replacing the old state. coat of arms for a new one? Instead of sickles and hammers, it was proposed to portray Cupid.
      This was explained as follows: "With a bare ass, with hands full of weapons, we climb to everyone with our love."


      Now, excuse me, we are naked ..., without weapons, and everyone is coming to us with their "love", and this is much worse ..
      1. 0
        1 September 2011 10: 27
        Oh, yes ... Only I’ll allow myself to add that they’re not climbing with the purpose of loving, but vulgarly fucking. Yes, and we also have to pay for it.

        In perversity in kind ...
        1. +2
          1 September 2011 11: 03
          Correctly noticed. Therefore, "love" is in quotation marks.
          1. posnevad
            -1
            4 September 2011 03: 14
            Solodova
            Ma'am, glad you liked the joke.
            And shoulder straps to your face. And love in quotation marks does not happen.
  20. 0
    1 September 2011 10: 24
    Yes, he does not need to Chubais ... Nothing to

    Do you know, pasnevad, why did I go to your monarchism?

    Because of the nobles himself. Not to say that there are no former, former nobles and former officers. Yes, not from the Russians, but there were estates in Russia.

    So, speaking about how great it was in Tsarist Russia, I rely on documents that miraculously survived in the family clan, were not burned 1942 in Leningrad in winter, were not found in 60's, and so on. These are diaries. Mostly, of course, women wrote. But one diary was preserved; his relative led for three years. Nobles, they know how to write. Therefore, the documents remained. It is a pity that stupid reporting on villages, taxes and all that has not been preserved.

    But what is, that is. And there is something to compare. And maybe from the point of view of the farmer everything was cool and fun, but if you look from the other side ...

    And, by the way, it just so happened that I am from the same "enlightened Europe" in principle. That is, from Poland. Well, not quite Europe, but very much even the Russian Empire at that time. Well, at least kill me, then Russia did not roll on what is written above. "St. Petersburg and Moscow - two islands in the sea of ​​darkness". A little high-flown, but it looks like.

    Yes, in the capitals was wow. And in the provinces ... According to the same notes, I laughed for a long time, when the ball was canceled, because the clerk of the merchant Sotnikov got drunk and on the way from Tambov a pro ... l bale with candles ... And then (well, disco) once a month Happened, not more often. Tragedy...

    Of course, not in the balls happiness. Definitely. But then life was very, very ambiguous, that for the top, that for the lower classes. To speak on this topic can be very long. My opinion is this: each time has its own orders. We should not cry with burning tears over the lost, but try to take the best from those times and try to keep it in the present.
  21. +1
    1 September 2011 10: 25
    Strangely, for some reason I absolutely do not want to sob, neither in Sigismund, nor in Nicholas II .... Neither the houses on Vasilyevsky Island in St. Petersburg, nor the villages in the Lipetsk and Tambov regions ...
    Probably worth the turn of history. Well, I did not see in the bulk of the ancestors (in Poland, there are several other) role models. Blind, driven into the clutches of the rules, in general, narrow-minded inhabitants. Giants did not observe the spirit. Russian, yes, somewhat better, more free were somehow. But in principle - all the same. The only difference - some were bright, that way, that thoughts. Understand that the province with all the consequences, but treated it somehow without any offense or something ... Damn, I will not formulate properly. Okay.

    My dear, a bunch of different people have gathered here, but the essence is one thing - there are almost no obvious opponents of the country's welfare Russia (not the state). It was bad to judge whether it was good under the tsar or the General Secretary, it makes no sense to judge. IT HAPPENED BEFORE.
    To think and do that through 30-40 years our grandchildren, or who else could discuss, whether we lived well or not. Because if they discuss, it means that we were worth something. And if they are not - and so everything is clear.
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      -1
      1 September 2011 11: 23
      Well, finally, a sound idea, and not speeches from the rostrum of party party!
  22. +5
    1 September 2011 10: 28
    I do not understand the moron of some. It is often said that the revolution (October 1917) was made by drunken men who did not want to work.
    A drunk man is not able to make a child.
    The advantages of the socialist system are evident. Only aliens, who do not have everything in order with their brains, groan at it.
    WE HAD:
    - the country of which they were proud
    - people brought up in the spirit of patriotism to their country
    - one of the best economies in the world
    - free and quality medicine
    - free and quality education
    - social security of all segments of the population
    - strong army and navy
    WE HAVE:
    - a country for which it is a shame
    - Pepsi generation
    - economic collapse
    - paid and low-quality medicine
    - paid and low-quality education
    - lack of social protection of the population
    - weak army and navy
    And why are the ideas of Marxism-Leninism bad. Read. These are rephrased 10 commandments from the Bible. So did Christ not please you?
    We were building a new state. No experience. Everything was learned through trial and error. But there was a core from which they did not retreat.
    Therefore, for six years, and raised the country from ruins. I'm talking about the economy, not a strong peasant. Everyone remembers only the 30 years. And you remember 70 when cars and motorcycles were in the house of every collective farmer.
  23. +1
    1 September 2011 11: 50
    Quote: vlbelugin
    It is often said that the revolution (October 1917) was made by drunken men who did not want to work.


    The revolution was made by very sober Jews and nobles. And the men who did not want to work helped as they could. But they were to say the least. not enough.

    Quote: vlbelugin
    A drunk man is not able to make a child.


    But why? The freak is quite.

    Quote: vlbelugin
    We were building a new state. No experience. Everything was learned through trial and error. But there was a core from which they did not retreat.
    Therefore, for six years, and raised the country from ruins. I'm talking about the economy, not a strong peasant. Everyone remembers only the 30 years. And you remember 70 when cars and motorcycles were in the house of every collective farmer.


    Absolutely so. A lot was done by trial and error. Thirties are better to remember, because it was exactly difficult. Well, how about 41-42 years. And then, when everything went uphill, what is there, you can be silent, it's more pleasant to shit. Why talk about successes, we'd rather talk about failures, about how they drove into collective farms and forced them to work, about how the valiant "Tigers" of cowardly Soviet soldiers drove to Moscow at 41 ... Sorinka in the eyes of others, logs in theirs ... Everything as usual. Dulles' plan.

    And about cars and motorcycles - yes. It was going to the village. And more. And not only cars. Here is a case from my life: in 1992, I was brought to the Nizhnedevitsky district of the Voronezh region. Well, so-so area, wilderness in general. Work. Have worked. the pumpkin had to be removed urgently. Removed. then it turned out that we were a little ... deceived. money will give 20%, the rest we can take with pumpkins. My friend and I are standing and thinking, why the heck is this KAMAZ pumpkin. then a peasant-tractor driver comes up (he dragged a cart across the field) and offers in kind exchange: we give him our invoice for 2,6 tons of pumpkins, and he gives us a sewing machine. We figured that cars are more convenient to lug than pumpkins. And they agreed. went to his house (in his own six), and he brought us two Japanese "Jaguars", a miracle of modern engineering, out of the barn. Then knowledgeable people told us that he warmed us up at least three times. But we didn't give a damn. Then half of our house went to look at this machine. By the way, it still works. And yet, he told us about the usefulness of pumpkin juice then, I asked how he squeezes it, what kind of juicer, he said that he had a combine. I pretended. I know what it is (I didn't really know, only from the army). That is, the one who worked lived well. Both under the tsar and under socialism.
    I understand that it was already sunset, but still ... impressed.
    1. +1
      1 September 2011 12: 07
      The French grenadiers and the Polish jollers were rattling. And the soldiers of MY GOOD ARMY retreated. There is such a form of battle (infantry combat charter).
      Near Smolensk they "skedaddle" so that the Germans were stopped for a month.
      If they were draping, then the Germans would be near Moscow in July.
      Those "strong" peasants from whom the Soviet government took a cow or a horse to a collective farm draped through the forests and then became policemen.
      By the way, "Tiger" first appeared on the Kursk Bulge in 1943.
      1. +1
        1 September 2011 13: 16
        By the way, about the tiger and upholstery - this was not written by me. It was mockingly quoted, it was just too lazy to look for an aftor. I am quite savvy in this regard.
      2. Old Cat Basilio
        +2
        1 September 2011 16: 06
        By the way: for the first time the Pz Kpfw VI Tiger tanks were used in a combat situation on 29.08.42/XNUMX/XNUMX near Leningrad (at the Mga station), however, with extremely sad consequences for themselves.
    2. 0
      15 August 2012 23: 39
      I agree with you completely - it is WHO WHO WORKED !!!! And all these microphone workers and makers of mirages, paper-shifters in offices, just wanted to eat from the belly, without making any effort to it ... So they howl more than anyone else, about how hard life was in the USSR ...
  24. Astral
    +1
    1 September 2011 19: 20
    I don’t know what you think, but in my opinion I need an iron curtain again. it is necessary to fence off the gap, and again come to the economic rules of I.V. Stalin.
  25. erik777
    +3
    1 September 2011 21: 53
    I believe that Stalin is the best statesman. Well, think for yourself, he came to a ruined, poor, agricultural country with an average life expectancy of 33-38 years and with 80% of the illiterate population. And when he left, we had a victory in the Second World War, universal literacy, one of the best education systems in the world (under Khrushchev it became the best in the world), nuclear weapons, life expectancy of more than 50 years, and inclinations to space. And so that the haters of Stalin did not say there, about the reprisals of the Red Terror, etc., BUT during the years of Stalin's rule, the country's population increased on average by 40-45 million people. Stalin built a country with 0 in fact, and the current government will not be able to cope with it at all - all the atrocities are attributed to him, denigrating this great era. It's a shame. After all, people like comrade Stalin is born oh how rare, and even less often become heads of state. Stalin has done more for the homeland than anyone else.
    PS Only for the Communist Party in the 2012 elections!
    PSS The best development at the moment would be the second coming of Stalin, shake the country, make again respect the homeland and foreign countries, and the inhabitants themselves.
    1. +2
      4 September 2011 08: 07
      The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has no personalities like Stalin. "Kharei" and charisma did not come out.
      1. erik777
        0
        15 September 2011 15: 55
        There are no similar ones - I know, but in my opinion, only a thin ray of hope still shines from the KPFR, and illuminates the current situation in Russia, only there I see hope. After all, the Communist Party is the Communist Party, the party of Lenin! And we all know not by hearsay about the deeds of this party. Turn around, because it was this party that built, fed, watered, clothed, protected, gave work, hope to all the inhabitants of the USSR. Therefore, when I put a tick in the bulletin "For the Communist Party!", I see not just some party trying to achieve power, no, I see the party of Lenin, the CPSU, and all the great deeds of this party!
  26. +2
    2 September 2011 00: 18
    The iron curtain is useless. It, in fact, caused the collapse of the Soviet Socialist Republic, mainly due to the fact that it was different there. But how differently, plainly no one knew. Therefore, they rushed at all this shit as a deficit (out of habit) and got this.

    Stalin did a gigantic job. Undoubtedly. Anyone who can understand and appreciate this can express it in the simplest way: not to give a damn about it to any Radzin, Solzhenitsyn, Novodvorskiy and others who could not do anything in real life, but earn only the blackening of others.

    In general, I think that throwing dirt at those who WORKED in the country as best they could and achieved results is to spit in the mirror. This is our story, this is us. Therefore, Stalin and Brezhnev must be remembered, and remembered with gratitude. And if in doubt ... Well, look at Yeltsin, humpback and others ... Feel better.

    And further. Here, any of us. Imagine that you invented a time machine and you are offered to take the place of Stalin year in 38-39. And until 45. Or 46. how much is enough. You are educated, you have a store of knowledge on history, you have the opportunity to fix everything. Or even do better. You have a higher education (and someone has more than one). Will you go Look back at 70 years, there. And answer this question.

    I answered. YES FOR NO !!! I am not ready to take on such responsibility. I do not have such willpower and spirit. I just can’t imagine HOW it was necessary to work so that everything would turn out at least the way it turned out. Not to mention improvements.

    Therefore, I will simply gnaw at the throats of those who want. Well, do your little thing for the good of this country. I love her too.
  27. posnevad
    0
    4 September 2011 03: 26
    Banshee
    I do not even know where to start.
    Well, I think we can say with confidence that we disagree.

    Quote: Banshee
    The verdict: clearly a monarchist from the number of modern, black and yellow. And, as the main black-and-yellow majority, except for nothing confirmed facts, can not operate. Well, tears on the theme of Russia, which we lost.


    One thing is obvious to me too. Labels and sentences you hand out masters. Of course! There is someone to learn from.
  28. iz2a36
    +1
    4 September 2011 19: 49
    Quote: Banshee
    It was, you can believe. The abolition of the cards was celebrated as Victory Day. My grandmother told me that when it was announced, the people said: "Now we have definitely won!"


    It was at 47 after the poor harvest of the 46th, and in England the cards were canceled, I do not remember exactly, somewhere in the mid-50s.
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      15 August 2012 23: 42
      In advanced capitalist England, cards were canceled only in 1955 ....
  29. Aleksey42
    +1
    4 September 2011 22: 19
    I myself am 80 years old, I remember about the Soviet era only the queues for almost everything, I also remember that everyone tried to get something imported (a wall, shoes, a tape recorder, etc.) But there was a free education, but what a thing! Medicine, army, space! Those in power didn’t hobble at all. There were, of course, privileges, but compared with the current ones, it's just babble! I can also say that out of 4 of my great-grandfathers, one was shot, the other died at the Belomorkanal, the third dispossessed, after which he himself died. So, in my opinion, it is not worth idealizing Stalin and all of Soviet time. But the country made a giant leap with him! Our KVM was built in 3 years! And there are hundreds of such examples! It is possible that by other methods this could not be achieved, who knows. But in the elections I will vote for the Communist Party, because it is painful to look at what is being done with my country!
  30. Yoshkin Kot
    +1
    17 May 2012 11: 34
    Well, of all the Communists, I respect only I.V. Dzhugashvilli, but it is difficult to call him a communist, he did not stand next to the forms, brackets and other Rosenfelds
  31. Abel
    0
    27 November 2012 10: 59
    You can look for and find flaws and advantages in this person. And it can be described in one word - Genius. At the same time, being a man, naturally he could not be uniquely ideal. You just have to judge by the results. Foreign policy, domestic social policy, economics, science, industry, art, education, health care and even "tasty and healthy food" for workers - nothing escaped his attention and control. He was able to penetrate, understand and understand everything. Who after him was capable of such a WORK?
  32. Alexander
    0
    6 November 2013 16: 48
    How much dirt has been poured on Stalin’s YV, starting with Khrushchev, ending with the current Democrats. They still have a cold sweat at the mention of the name STALIN.
  33. Alexander
    0
    6 November 2013 16: 49
    How much dirt has been poured on Stalin’s YV, starting with Khrushchev, ending with the current Democrats. They still have a cold sweat at the mention of the name STALIN.
  34. +2
    24 August 2019 19: 57
    I know two of the greatest People in the entire official history of mankind: LENIN and STALIN. Both of them did the impossible: LENIN gave people freedom from landlord slavery and the most just order on earth as a result of the Great Proletarian October Revolution. STALIN created from impoverished, backward, colonial, tsarist Russia an advanced, industrially and agro-developed Superpower, capable of protecting itself from external and internal enemies, and making people's lives happy. People felt themselves the masters of a country with equal opportunities for everyone, where a person was valued and respected not by the amount of money in his wallet, but by his qualities, and every work was respected. That is why there was massive heroism in the Great Patriotic War, in contrast to the general desertion in the German war under the tsarist regime and the Provisional Government. Under the tsars and the bourgeoisie, the capitalists did not consider ordinary working people as people and treated them as things, inanimate objects, both on the ground and in factories and in the army. The October Revolution changed the attitude towards working people - they became the basis of the state, as it should be, since it was they who created the wealth of the country, and not the landowners and tsars, who only knew how to squander the country's wealth in luxury and revelry, acquired at the expense of starvation of millions of children and adults. The main source of income of tsarist Russia was the useless and inept trade in bread of poor quality and at the lowest price in the world, and since labor productivity in the countryside was very low due to the age-old backwardness of Russia, there was very little bread, but this last bread Cossacks were taken away from the peasants according to the tsarist surplus allocation, dooming, first of all, small children, as well as adults, to extinction. And this despite the fact that the tsarist famines regularly took place, since the capitalists sold bread to the Germans according to the principle - "we will not finish it, but we will sell it", only people were malnourished and starved to death, and the bourgeois non-humans were fattening and gorgeous, filling their pockets with money.

    The Lenin Revolution made a historically important event, the most important event in the history of mankind - justice was restored for the first time - people began to be appreciated and respected by their work, Conscience, Truth and Justice became the main principles of the life of society, and therefore there was such an unprecedented rise of the country in the world the first five years, and then unprecedented heroism in the defense of their homeland and an unprecedented rise in the restoration of the country from military devastation.

    Glory to LENIN and STALIN !!! Glory to the Soviet Motherland !!! Glory to the Soviet Heroes !!!

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