The confrontation of Algeria and the Libyan rebels. Algeria, as a new victim of the wave of "modernization"

The confrontation of Algeria and the Libyan rebels. Algeria, as a new victim of the wave of "modernization"Algeria and the Libyan rebels are actually in a pre-war state. This is confirmed by the statements of representatives of the Libyan opposition and the actions of the Algerian authorities. Thus, the Algerian authorities declared anxiety in areas bordering the Libyan territory and closed the border with this state. Now the Algerian-Libyan border is further strengthened by new military units. Algeria is undertaking similar security measures on the border with Mali. When the confrontation between Gaddafi and the opposition had just begun, it was reported that it was in Mali that the stolen goods from military warehouses weapon. It goes into the hands of the Islamists, the enemies of the Algerian authorities.


There was a whole chain of events that can be noted as very bad "bells" for Algeria. On August 26, a terrorist attack took place outside the military academy building in the Algerian city of Cherchell, as a result of which several dozen people were killed and wounded. The Al-Qaida unit in the states of the Islamic Maghreb claimed responsibility for the attack, representatives of the Islamists stressed that the attack was in retaliation for Algeria for its support of the dictator Gaddafi. It should be noted that Al-Qaeda in Libya acted in conjunction with the Libyan opposition, the Western coalition.

After that, the Algerian authorities reported that Islamic terrorists who committed the terrorist attack in the country fled to Libyan territory, which is controlled by the rebels. Such a message infuriated the Libyan rebels. The official military representative of the Transitional National Council (PNS), Ahmed Omar al-Bani, said: “Algeria has launched a war against us, and we expect everything from them. They support the tyrant Gaddafi, who is fighting against the Libyan people. " The Algerian authorities sent him to reinforce mercenaries who illegally crossed the border of Libya, Algeria illegally supplied weapons to the troops of M. Gaddafi. And further: "And now they accuse us of hiding al-Qaeda militants, thereby demonstrating our true attitude towards us."

It is clear that it is impossible to assert that all Libyan rebels are all members of al-Qaida. But it cannot be denied that the units of the Libyan Islamic Group, which were noted in the fight against the forces of Gaddafi, are in close contact with Al-Qaida. The Algerian authorities are not happy about the fact that the “military commander” of Tripoli was Belhadj, who during his life managed to take part in a number of military conflicts in various regions of the planet on the side of Islamic radicals. There are Algerian Islamists among the Libyan rebels. Their contacts with their comrades in Algeria confirm the fact that in the wake of the terrorist attacks against the Algerian authorities and the military, launched in April, they actively used weapons stolen from Libyan military depots. Taking Tripoli, the rebels defeated and looted a number of embassies, including the embassy of Algeria.

The anger of the Libyan opposition was caused by the fact that Algeria accepted and, in fact, saved the family of M. Gaddafi. His wife, daughter, two sons and their children. Some Libyan rebels fear that Gaddafi himself has disappeared illegally in Algeria or that he is going to flee there. As a result, the Algerian authorities have neglected the recent EU warnings about the inadmissibility of granting political asylum to any member of the Gaddafi family. And although the Algerian authorities declare that the Gaddafi family was missed out of "humanitarian considerations" and will leave the country, having left for a third country, their behavior is defiant both for Libyan rebels and for the West.

After all, there is an understanding of the fact that while at least one representative of the Gaddafi family lives, the current winners cannot live in peace. Few people in Libya still understand the fact that with Gadhafi’s departure, the social benefits that he guaranteed to the entire Libyan people as part of the practical implementation of the ideas of the so-called. The Green Book. His Jamahiriya, a kind of Islamic socialism, has sunk into oblivion. Already in Libya, the negative consequences of the fall of the Colonel’s power can be noted: there is a shortage of water and food in the cities, there is no centralized gas supply, you have to cook with wood, marauders rob embassies, kill blacks, declaring them “Gaddafi mercenaries”, etc. from the country, the remaining foreigners are doctors, other medical personnel, teachers, etc. Nostalgia for lost well-being will sooner or later force many Libyans to dream of his return or his children.

Therefore, the representative of the PNS Shammam described the event that took place not only as a desire to provide assistance for humane purposes, but as an aid in the subsequent triumphal return of the Gaddafi family to Libya. A PNS military spokesman, Ahmed Al-Bani, said that the new authorities in Libya would seek to extradite members of the Gaddafi family and regard the event as an “act of aggression” by the Algerian state. Algeria’s behavior also shows its position on the PNS, the Algerian authorities openly refuse to recognize the power of the rebels. He literally stated the following: “The day will come when they will have to answer for their attitude to the Libyan revolutionaries.” This is actually a threat.

In addition, a few days ago, the Algerian army occupied part of the Libyan border area under the pretext of solving the tasks of "protecting the representatives of the Algerian community." This message even led to what appeared news, saying that Algeria sent troops to Libya in order to support the regime of Gaddafi. In part, what is happening can be explained by the fears of the Algerian authorities that the Libyan Berbers-Amazigs will want to support their kindred Kabils of Algeria, among whom opposition and even separatist sentiments are growing. A number of Libyan "field commanders" regarded this event as another act of aggression by the Algerian state, "which will not go unpunished."

Thus, it can be noted that the claims of the Libyan rebels to Algeria have accumulated a lot. Algeria is accused of many articles that NATO, if desired, may present Algeria. Even direct provision of military assistance to Gaddafi is attributed to the neighboring state. In principle, part of these accusations is true, Gaddafi’s neighbor is beneficial to Algeria, and not the gang of “field commanders”.

And the Algerian authorities, led by President Abdelhafiz Bouteflika, categorically refused to soften their position on Libya, according to which the North Atlantic Alliance should immediately cease all hostilities and peacekeeping units of the African Union should be introduced into Libya. In July, there were accusations that Algeria was pressing on the new authorities of Tunisia to support Gaddafi. On July 10, PNS Vice President Abdelhafiz Gogh (Gogha) accused Algeria of continuing to send mercenaries to Gaddafi, assisting in the killing of "innocent civilians."

Algeria is gradually becoming the next in line for “modernization” and “democratization”. The situation for the Algerian authorities is complicated by the fact that in the state the opposition of the authorities and society is intensifying. Particularly active in the "swinging" of their state is manifested by various youth organizations that are seeking "the speedy implementation of democratic reforms." Behind them are the forces of the West, including France, which traditionally has established channels of influence in Algeria.

In any case, the Algerian authorities understand that there is a transformation of the entire region and there is no place to retreat. The point is not the revenge of the West or the Libyan rebels for the help of Gaddafi, but in the principle itself - the whole Islamic world is under attack. Algeria in any scenario is under attack. Even if the West temporarily leaves him alone, radical Islam has already been activated. In the embers of the civil war extinguished in Algeria (1991-2002 years), new kerosene was poured.

And the interests of the Islamists strangely coincide with the interests of the West. In Algeria, the situation will be swayed, the popular discontent will be stirred up in every way, the benefit of social problems in the country a lot. Then the scenario of Egypt or Libya will be implemented, depending on the stubbornness of the Algerian government.
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  1. Che
    Che 31 August 2011 07: 53 New
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    Amer will not stop until all the nations of the world rise against violence.
    1. Splin
      Splin 31 August 2011 09: 20 New
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      Breaks off. De Gaulle in the 50s passed the law that all citizens of Algeria are subjects of France. This time. And Algeria is equipped with weapons cleaner even the Russian army. He has new Su-27 (30) and MiG-29 aircraft and new air defense systems. He was never pressured by sanctions, and the country was well armed. Plus and modern Ground Forces and the Navy.
      1. jamert
        jamert 1 September 2011 19: 59 New
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        They returned MiG-29.
  2. DEfindER 31 August 2011 11: 01 New
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    Algeria’s army is of course abruptly Libya, but when 1000 tomahawks are released that are unrealistic to shoot down, then there will be a full pe ... The US Military Budget is several times larger than the Military Budget of all other countries combined! Yes and no, the USSR .. In Vietnam, they put in the amers, because before we didn’t leave our people in trouble! And now our bear is a puppet by the type of this Libyan fucking fuck ..
    Perhaps the only thing that can save Algeria is long-range missile systems for the destruction of aircraft carrier groups, and bases on the territory of France and Italy.
    1. ballian
      ballian 31 August 2011 11: 15 New
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      The United States and so on other things around the neck - they did not even climb into Libya - gave it to the Franco-Britons., And then in Syria half a year what’s going on. Note that no one in the West is shouting that the Algerian regime should change - that is these are pure speculations - a real alternative to the current Algerian government - these are only wild Islamists - nobody needs this.
      In Libya, everything was authorized by the UN - in Algeria, this obviously will not work.
      1. DEfindER 31 August 2011 11: 26 New
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        This is not the United States climbed into Libya? They simply officially transferred the leadership of the NATO operation, and the US Army there accounts for 90% of the entire group, because Libya is the zone of their military interests, like Syria, and Algeria is democratizing for one thing, so that the entire region is pro-American! Already now they are building up anti-Algerian sentiments within the country through the same Al Qaeda, and they won’t get behind the resolution, they are being given out so easily and for committing any war crimes that there is no sense at all in the UN ..
        1. ballian
          ballian 31 August 2011 12: 03 New
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          Well what are you saying ?? - US air forces in Libyan events participated only until April - then they all laid on the shoulders of the NATO countries that agreed to participate there (for example, Germany refused)
          Almost for ground targets, aviation of France and Britain worked on 85% or more there.
          1. DEfindER 31 August 2011 12: 35 New
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            Where did such information come from, Obama only said that he wanted to reduce the group, but did not do anything, only continue to build it up for a subsequent invasion .. All the main work to destroy the Libyans is done by the states, these are facts. I have not found the number of NATO groups today, but I think it is only growing, because Libya is not the last in the line for house accretion.
            1. ballian
              ballian 31 August 2011 13: 12 New
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              I repeat the US military aviation since April does not participate in raids on Libya - this is a fact. American participation is limited to reconnaissance, refueling in the air.
              http://www.baltinfo.ru/2011/04/03/SShA-vyshli-iz-voiny-v-Livii-196701
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              http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/international/2011/06/110615_obama_libya_congress.s
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              It is not clear what kind of invasion it is - the war is nearing completion and neither the UN nor the rebels themselves invited the ground units of NATO to Libya.
              1. DEfindER 31 August 2011 14: 01 New
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                And where did the aviation, it did its job, so ironed Libya that it makes no sense to bomb anymore, but it can be said so beautifully that we stop fighting, now there is a ground operation being carried out by NATO ground forces (or why did they send landing ships to Libya, who are still there) Repeatedly heard and read the statements of the NATO military, which openly declare that the rebels are absolutely bespontovye warriors, and can only shout allah akbar and shoot into the air, all ground-based military successes were only thanks to Nato, who then launched into destroyed rebel cities (representing gangsters freed from prisons) for robberies and cleansing civilians ..

                And by the way, the rebel council was created outside Libya even before the operation began, by splitting the ruling elite of Gaddafi, and is nothing more than an executor of the will of NATO countries, therefore, to invite or not invite someone to Libya is not in their competence.
                1. ballian
                  ballian 31 August 2011 14: 17 New
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                  There is nothing but rumors about NATO’s ground operation, and even more so about some naval assault forces - the less serious involvement of NATO ground forces is impossible to hide
                  Aviation despite the fact that it makes daily 30-40 sorties on ground targets - it is clearly visible., Unlike conversations about ground operations. If she, according to yours, "ironed everything", then the militants all the more do not need NATO ground detectors.
                  You will be surprised - but they are now the real power in Libya - and they have already stated that foreign troops will not allow Libya. Their "execution" is not confirmed by anything.
                  1. DEfindER 31 August 2011 14: 36 New
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                    And so in order
                    NATO is no longer even trying to hide the ground operation, because facts at every step, and NATO countries themselves acknowledge this, the participation of special forces was planned before the unrest in Libya, everything was thought out in steps.

                    State aviation, or rather missiles, caused major damage to the country's infrastructure, disrupting the supply and control of the army. all buildings with any relation to Kadafi were destroyed, including TV studios, administrative buildings, not to mention the headquarters of warehouses and communication centers. After that, the aviation of European countries performed no more than a demonstrative function, destroying the remaining civilian objects. But at the same time, the rebels, led by NATO instructors, could not do anything with Gaddafi and suffered one defeat after another, then they decided to do away with him and did everything with the help of professional military men from Western countries! The facts of this are everywhere; the French and British special forces were the most illuminated!

                    Statements by the People's Republic of China that they will not allow foreign troops into Libya cause only a smile, these troops are fighting in it from the very beginning)
                    1. ballian
                      ballian 31 August 2011 16: 57 New
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                      What kind of participation is there? Anonymous rumors leaked to the newspapers that since July, the 22 SAS regiment (in terms of size it’s really a battalion, and it is not even clear whether it is full) supposedly takes part there somehow - and it doesn’t say anywhere that he went under the bullets and stormed something there - this is participation what could play some serious role?
                      Since the USA did not fight in Libya, many MONTHS have passed - the situation on the confrontation line has practically not changed during this time. What else "suffered one defeat after another" ??? - Gaddafi has only been defending all this time - time worked against him - and his defeat was a matter of time.
                      1. DEfindER 31 August 2011 17: 40 New
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                        Okay, you don’t want to believe the facts, just try to turn to the logic,
                        I already wrote somehow that I was mildly surprised when I found out that the rebels took Tripoli literally in a day. If you believe this, then there’s simply nothing to talk about anymore .. Even taking into account that Gaddafi’s army has to constantly move from place to place due to continuous bombing, anyone who would slip into the city, even the most mechanized and modern army, would suffer enormous losses because the enemy is not visible, but they can be seen clearly, even attacking a city in ruins is very difficult. And if ordinary gangs who only know how to rob and kill civilians do it, then they would not be allowed even to the outskirts ..

                        And by the way, given the venality of modern media, and the extensive Atni Libyan information company, the very fact that information about NATO’s ground forces constantly leaks out suggests that there are more than they say!
                      2. ballian
                        ballian 31 August 2011 20: 02 New
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                        What other "facts"? That you are operating rumors.
                        The fact is that by mid-July the rebels had advanced 100 km. south of Tripoli. Here is a report from the special correspondent of the Russian newspaper Izvestia http://www.izvestia.ru/news/494767
                        just off there was an attack on Tripoli
                        I, like you, are skeptical of the fighting ability of the rebels - but I must admit - the months have passed - during this time they had time to learn, to stock up on weapons - and as you can see by my link, they can even attack in open areas.
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                        I was also surprised - and who was not surprised how American troops occupied Baghdad almost without a fight in the 2003 year? Too lazy to climb, but the information has already passed that the general defending Tripoli agreed and built the city.
                        When the victory in the war clearly tends to one side of the scales - there is no one who wants to arrange a "Stalingrad battle" and they just scatter ..
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                        I remind you that information about the alleged participation of NATO ground forces appeared in the British and French media (!)
                      3. Mesniy
                        Mesniy 1 September 2011 00: 24 New
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                        Well, according to this flawed logic, Grozny also defended NATO. The former Sovi army was abruptly more Mumerian, and complete domination in the air ...
                        In short, there is no need to rave. Gives a sweetheart about pests and spies for 37 years.
    2. Dovmont
      Dovmont 1 September 2011 19: 54 New
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      A ride in Libya, a ride in both Azhir and Syria. Our dishes and their surrender.
  3. svvaulsh
    svvaulsh 31 August 2011 20: 19 New
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    Quote: DEfindER
    omahawks that bring down in principle is unrealistic


    Very real. They have two advantages: - low altitude and low image intensifier (0,5 sq. M.). MiG-31s ​​work perfectly on them, revealing them against the background of the earth. The tomahawk is destroyed by R-33 missiles. There is an A-50 AWACS aircraft, accompanying 400 targets, and distributing them between interceptors. There are air defense systems that without problems destroy CR of this type. True, there is little time to make a decision, due to the short detection range.
  • datur 31 August 2011 12: 01 New
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    ballian,
    In Libya, everything was authorized by the United Nations - in Algeria, this obviously will not work. --- It will also, and it will. No obstacles for the Pindos, because through them the whole world is their lawn.
  • Owl
    Owl 31 August 2011 13: 09 New
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    All events taking place are events against US rivals (opponents). Libya is against China, Syria is the base of the Russian Navy, Algeria is an independent buyer of Russian weapons and the services of military specialists.
    1. Mesniy
      Mesniy 1 September 2011 00: 17 New
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      The Russian Black Sea Fleet simply scribbles to be disposed of, and it only threatens the ecology of the Black Sea.
  • figwam 31 August 2011 20: 44 New
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    NATO is formatting new territories, we will soon learn about the next operations of special services, the wind is just beginning to fan the flames of war.