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Herostratum art of Ukraine. Psychologist comment

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An exhibition of posters, which was recently held in Kiev, once again demonstrated the state of social circles trying to assert themselves through the “Maidan performance”. Visitors to the exhibition “100 of the best patriotic posters” saw what Ukrainian art and society “breathes” today, and many were clearly delighted by the raging creativity of artists from Lviv, Kharkov, Kiev and other Ukrainian cities. The semantic load of the “canvases” fit into the usual for the current Ukrainian zombie-mass outline: “Colorado”, “quilted jackets”, “bloody Putin”, “Crimea - Ukraine,” “cyborg patriots”, “peremoga”, “happy life in The European Union in spite of Russia. ”


First you need to submit to familiarize several such works of Ukrainian "artists" in order, so to speak, to have an object of discussion before your eyes.

Herostratum art of Ukraine. Psychologist comment






About these and other works presented at the Kiev exhibition and the public spirit promoted through the media in Ukraine, the conversation turned to Olga Gorova, a psychologist and an employee of the Center for the Prevention of Asocial Phenomena working under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior of the Russian Federation.

"IN":
How can you from a professional point of view characterize those works that were presented at the Kiev exhibition?

Psychologist:
Honestly, I am surprised by the general name of the works under which they were put up - “100 best patriotic posters”. Firstly, I sincerely do not understand what patriotism is here. Secondly, if these are the “best” posters, then it’s scary to even assume that it was depicted on ordinary ones that didn’t get to the exhibition, if there were any, and if they didn’t pull anything that came to hand to Kiev.

From the psychological, and even from the psychiatric point of view, the authors of these works have obvious problems. Authors to the forefront expose that in a normal healthy person usually causes a negative reaction. I see here an image of coffins, skulls, feces, graves, the process of vomiting. Moreover, the presentation of the material itself suggests that their creators did not leave the state of creative infantilism. This work is akin to how a student who is not ready to admit that he was wrong, writes an indecent text with a brick on the wall to the person who made the remark. Only these words and schoolchildren are unlikely to display on their own wall, and this, apparently, does not bother Ukrainian authors. They would have pasted something similar on their foreheads to be in the fashionable stream ...


"IN":
Olga, by the way, you paid attention to the use of Soviet posters by Ukrainian artists. What's this? The presence of a creative crisis, disguised by the use of other people's work? Or something different?





Psychologist:
Yes of course. To begin with, I will say that it is necessary to turn to the copyright holders of Soviet poster graphics, because the “author” works of Ukrainian artists are outright theft, and with further use of xenophobia in the key. In the civilized countries of the world, to which Ukraine, apparently, is no longer relevant, such artists would have been expected to have obvious problems with the law and considerable fines. The prosecutor's office should pay attention to this.

From a psychological point of view, this is a strange situation at all. If they tried to form some kind of new informational field of patriotism on the basis of rejecting all that is connected with the USSR and Russia, then I am surprised at the use of Soviet posters for this purpose. We have such a term as dictates obsession. I think that here we are seeing him. Moreover, this obsession is clearly trying to extrapolate to more and more people. One will look and say: “Ugh!”, And the other, more susceptible to psychological influences, may accept as an objective coverage of events.


"IN":
Do you think this is an irreversible process?

Psychologist:
No I do not think so. In any society, there are those who are trying to gain control over other people, to form a society of the slave, on the basis of the substitution of concepts. Now it is fashionable to use the word "zombie." In Ukraine, this is not even propaganda. Rather, it is a kind of self-satisfaction, which engaged persons who are not able to achieve success in the process of creative, and not destructive creativity, and political too. It is a thirst for attention to oneself, a thirst for power for those who experience mental problems. Here we are dealing with the new "Gyrostrata". This is a type of phobia-based manic syndrome about the fact that no one pays you and will never pay attention. In Ukraine, it is the Herostrats that is right now. But the power of the “Herostratus” simply by definition cannot last for long. It will stop at that moment when there will be nothing to crush (I say, and spiritual harmony). I hope that it will stop earlier, and Ukraine will move from destruction to creation.

"IN":
Thanks for the interview!
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  1. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 15 December 2014 07: 35
    +8
    the authors of such "agitation" will go far. maybe to us, to Kolyma, maybe somewhere else.
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 15 December 2014 07: 48
      +8
      I liked that we went to a psychologist, only the creators of this miracle needed to go to the hospital right away!
    2. Catch_veter
      Catch_veter 15 December 2014 08: 31
      +8
      maybe to us, to Kolyma


      What for? Either liberalists to Siberia, then Velikoukrov to Kolyma :(

      Turn home country into trash. The first to their historical homeland, and the second let them go to the EU ...

      You have some problems along the way. Will you drag any dirt into your apartment? It’s tantamount ... to go to the garbage can pull out some d ** mo and bring it to your apartment.
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 15 December 2014 13: 55
        0
        Quote: Catching_winter
        The first to their historical homeland, and the second let them go to the EU ...

        that's for sure, an urgent need to open a new camp, somewhere where there is a small population, and call it liberostan! and give citizenship there to all liberals ... laughing
    3. APES
      APES 15 December 2014 09: 12
      +4
      Ukraine. Psychologist Comment


      the diagnosis is correct
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    5. D-Master
      D-Master 15 December 2014 12: 23
      0
      To be honest, I would like closer to the nearest wall. For repentance in these souls does not have to wait.
    6. hedgehog in the fog
      hedgehog in the fog 15 December 2014 19: 38
      +5
      but I’d like to dwell on a poster about the scoop’s heritage. by the time the new leadership ironed the Donbas, it became obvious that this campaign spread only to 2 areas.
      What I want to say, do you want to destroy the legacy of the scoop? blow up, list: tanks, planes, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, sau, throw away all your light and heavy small arms, blow up weapons depots, level hospitals, factory schools, factories with English bulldozers. demolish Kharkov and Nikolaev enterprises, destroy the enterprises that own Kolomoisky and Poroshenko, they are also shovels.
      and in the end, shoot yourself please, because you, too, were created in the USSR ..
      fool fool
  2. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 15 December 2014 07: 41
    +7
    The main thing for poster artists to get into the stream. It would be interesting to show all the works of these authors. Probably before the Maidan they drew another.
    1. tongilguk
      tongilguk 15 December 2014 14: 31
      +2
      After the Maidan, almost the entire state apparatus of Ukraine went overboard.
      Check out all of their experts who talk about the Russian threat. A couple of years ago, they called us brothers for centuries.
      So not surprisingly, they are all trying to survive in the current environment. And surely they hide their true feelings even from themselves.
      Now in Ukraine the fashion is to blame everything Russian. And after a couple of years, they will want to sweep it all away. For me, it reminds me of Germany in the late 30s - early 40s.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 15 December 2014 07: 42
    +2
    we don't need to rinse our brains here, we are not children, what the hell are these "works of art" for? it's clear with them for a long time! you OUR propaganda on kaklov pour, carry the truth, so that you come to your senses ...
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 15 December 2014 07: 46
    +1
    Shiz mows their ranks 6x9 and 9x12
  5. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 15 December 2014 07: 55
    +14
    dictate of obsession

    Very accurate description of the Ukrainian situation

    And about this poster:



    Ukraine perceives itself as space - very symbolic
    1. ma_shlomha
      ma_shlomha 15 December 2014 10: 45
      0
      The whole world is firmly on the ground, and this chatty masturbation got a place on the expiring fecal sewer manhole. :-)))
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 15 December 2014 11: 24
      0
      Quote: MainBeam
      Ukraine perceives itself as a gap - very symbolic

      I would even say "like an empty space."
    3. Spnsr
      Spnsr 15 December 2014 14: 04
      0
      Quote: MainBeam
      dictate of obsession

      Very accurate description of the Ukrainian situation

      And about this poster:



      Ukraine perceives itself as space - very symbolic

      moreover, projection is very clearly visible in their behavior! they project all their failures and bad behavior onto another, in this case not participating at all in this process ...
      By the way, this is largely characteristic of adolescents 14-16 years old laughing
      1. The point
        The point 15 December 2014 15: 14
        +6
        In general, the situation looks like this:
        1. Karbofost
          Karbofost 15 December 2014 15: 32
          +1
          Only here the soldier needs to be drawn in black. One such Svidomo wrote that they are not Russian brothers, but the Americans are brothers. Well then, I wished you a pleasant game on a black leather pipe, THANKS Native !!!! was the answer. laughing laughing laughing
  6. Teberii
    Teberii 15 December 2014 08: 10
    +4
    This is reminiscent of posters from the time of the Civil War. Yes, actually it goes there.
  7. Vasily
    Vasily 15 December 2014 08: 13
    +2
    The end of moydaunam is nearing. This is their last poison. The fact is that such fierce agitation is already working as an advertisement, which is what this article says.
    A normal citizen of Ukraine after viewing should have a desire to find out what is happening in Russia. Is it really that bad?
  8. Vasily Ivashov
    Vasily Ivashov 15 December 2014 08: 14
    +1
    Even a cursory glance at the above posters is enough to understand that today's Ukraine is a "scoop", and a scoop turned inside out is destructive. After all, a war with emptiness is a terribly destructive thing for the psyche and in general, how can you not remember Confucius, who said that "it is difficult to look for a black cat in a dark room, especially when she is not there."
    1. xan
      xan 15 December 2014 10: 33
      0
      Quote: Vasily Ivashov
      Even a cursory glance at the above posters is enough to understand that today's Ukraine is a "scoop"

      Not a country, but some garbage. They don’t have methods, they can do nothing positive for the people of the country. They have to escalate hysteria so that people don’t see their eyes for as long as possible.
      I consider the main thing for Russia to establish a normal life in the Donbass. It will be abruptly military victories, and most importantly without death.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 December 2014 08: 14
    0
    Handboders are crazy and fantasy. But - winter is still ALL to come!
  10. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 15 December 2014 08: 17
    0
    So they are about themselves !!! They just do not control themselves, and do not look in the mirror !!!
  11. Yarik
    Yarik 15 December 2014 08: 22
    +2
    parusnik (1) SU Today, 07:46 New
    Shiz mows their ranks 6x9 and 9x12


    It is necessary to mow 5,45x39. wink
    1. Alexnor
      Alexnor 15 December 2014 10: 04
      0
      I agree! You can and 7,62 ....
  12. Days
    Days 15 December 2014 08: 39
    0
    We will surely demolish the entire legacy of the scoop!

    The Antonov Design Bureau and "Mriya" should not be demolished, a good thing)
  13. shamil
    shamil 15 December 2014 08: 50
    +4
    Country of fools
  14. zero12005
    zero12005 15 December 2014 08: 59
    0
    Quote: aszzz888
    Handboders are crazy and fantasy. But - winter is still ALL to come!

    I'm afraid that one winter is not enough. Something more radical is needed in terms of information, but how to break through the screen? From myself I will send a childhood friend to Kiev a link to VO, as he answers, I will conclude whether he is alive or welded. This will be my small contribution to anti-European propaganda.
  15. thinker
    thinker 15 December 2014 09: 31
    +4
    Quote: shamil
    Country of fools

    One more was:
    A criminal case against the artist Anton Myrzin was initiated by the Federal Security Service in the Perm region. The reason for this was the exhibition "100 Patriotic Posters" in Kiev, in which the author of the poster "Kill the Colorado" took part in early December
    Anton Myrzin: “I was forced to emigrate from Russia to Ukraine in order to obtain political asylum there, with the possible further prospect of professional growth in the field of political and propaganda art.”

    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1273496/
  16. Turkir
    Turkir 15 December 2014 09: 43
    +4
    I wanted to draw the attention of TopWar readers that the text for the posters is in Russian.
    Wondering why? Either because there are no Ukrainian artists, or because the authors KNEW in advance that their posters were intended for the Russian public and were not intended for Ukrainian farmers not inclined to their "great" art.
    Whoever touches more than mo.sk.lei will get it! This is the main principle of this "creativity".
    And, of course, to make money faster with bread and butter ...
    The psychologist’s assessment is correct - the infantile level; in Russian, it is underdevelopment.
  17. bmv04636
    bmv04636 15 December 2014 09: 48
    +3
    The posters are not patriotic anyway, because it’s not in their language why they are in Russian in the language of the aggressor, so to speak. You can imagine the poster Motherland Mother Testament in German for Soviet people. I can only make one conclusion: there is no such language as the Ukrainian mov did not take place, since patriotic posters are written in the language of their opponent, it seems.
  18. Batia
    Batia 15 December 2014 09: 57
    +1
    Posters in the style of 1st grade 2nd quarter. Like "Petka". What kind of posters are the leaders of the state.
  19. Leader
    Leader 15 December 2014 10: 10
    +3
    No, not you brothers to us ...
    With a betrayal your story began, a betrayal and ends.
    I hope that the survivors will serve as "toys" for the European p.i.d.a.r.a.m.
  20. Alexnor
    Alexnor 15 December 2014 10: 11
    0
    Yes, Svidomo ukro have not yet seen their light-they do not need Europe, do not need .... Their countries barely make ends meet .....
    There are practically no normal people there, maybe several thousand, and unfortunately, the tendency toward an increase in zombies is not at all pleasing .......
  21. Combitor
    Combitor 15 December 2014 10: 23
    +3
    Classification posters. Especially with a man in yellow pants. and depravity of dill broke all records.
    And where they want to destroy the "sovka's legacy" ... Then all of Ukraine should be bulldozed. Rebuilt something in the "soviet" times. Svidomites have not built anything yet. Oh yeah, is there something about the "wall"? ..
  22. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 15 December 2014 10: 32
    +2
    Diagnosis - "ShIZA" (keep locked up).
  23. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 15 December 2014 10: 59
    +9
    Another poster from the Internet. It looks like the guys arriving on the "Hercules" will not have problems with bread and salt.
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  24. mamont5
    mamont5 15 December 2014 12: 19
    0
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    we don't need to rinse our brains here, we are not children, what the hell are these "works of art" for? it's clear with them for a long time! you OUR propaganda on kaklov pour, carry the truth, so that you come to your senses ...


    Here I am also. Once again, HERE demonstrate this DIRT. WHAT FOR? To know that zombies live in Ukraine? Already know. So that we have more anger? Over the edge whips.
    It is enough that THEY revel in it at home, but we don’t need it.
  25. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 15 December 2014 13: 01
    0
    News of course from the category "Did you know?"
    They knew.
    So what?
    For example, I know that almost all posters are made by one group of 3-5 people.
    And they got good grandmothers from the Americans for this.
    The article itself is a good example of zombies, don’t you?)))
    1. Volodin
      15 December 2014 14: 45
      +1
      Quote: Alcoholic
      The article itself is a good example of zombies, is not it?

      I thought that you took the nickname "Alcoholic" as a joke, but it looks like ...
      1. dmb
        dmb 15 December 2014 15: 18
        0
        Dear A. Volodin, but it seems to me your opponent is partially right. After all, by publishing these crafts, and even evaluating them with the help of a police psychologist, you obviously counted on a certain reaction from a certain part of commentators. Some of them are even worse than Ukrainian ones, see the poster with naked women. I hope you do not consider it a profound work. By the way, a police psychologist should still partially know the law. Nevertheless, he works in a law enforcement agency. Whose prosecutor's office and what should pay attention to, it is hardly able to tell you.
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  26. press officer
    press officer 15 December 2014 13: 06
    0
    Quote: wasjasibirjac
    the authors of such "agitation" will go far. maybe to us, to Kolyma, maybe somewhere else.


    Here! A participant in one of these "paintings" exhibited there in this squalor, was from our Perm! Dumped the bastard, wrote that they began to threaten him and did not follow him to the "united land" now he lives there ub..k am It was not necessary to threaten him, but the brains to endure and that’s all! What is ours, as usual, regretted the bastard! negative am
  27. Reader
    Reader 15 December 2014 13: 48
    0
    And I was pleased with the last poster. Ukriya itself is the legacy of the "scoop" so unloved by them. Epic self-destruction. And for our benefit.
    Bandera DneproGES still explode, as the main symbol. With them it will become.
  28. Alexasha
    Alexasha 15 December 2014 14: 48
    0
    If they tried to form a new information field of patriotism on the basis of rejection of everything connected with the USSR and Russia, then I am surprised at the use of Soviet posters for these purposes.

    It is not surprising if we analyze the goals of customers and performers of these posters, as well as understand who is the main target group.
    I think no one doubts that the main goal of the State Department is to sow discord and hatred between Ukrainians and Russians. Therefore, the Soviet style of posters is most likely designed for Russians and people who are sympathetic to the Soviet past.
    Judging by some comments - they achieved their goal:
    Quote: Leader
    No, not you brothers to us ...

    It seemed like why did the site’s redaction help the State Department by publishing these materials .. Probably just the pursuit of rating.
    Ukrainians, like Russians after the collapse of the USSR, are looking for a new national idea. The role of the defender of morality in the world has already been tried on by Russia. They probably do not want to repeat themselves again and wander, for now, in the darkness. Forgive us our sins.
  29. nstarinsky
    nstarinsky 15 December 2014 18: 37
    0
    This, although a disease, is very funny. You can’t seriously look at it without a smile. When patients begin to compete in which of them is more painful - medicine is powerless because it chokes with laughter. It is dangerous to operate patients with tears in their eyes.
    For those who think that Ukraine is entering the last phase, I promise - this is for a long time. Then on the weekend I saw a badge for kids - something like "Young Bandera". Clowns in circuses are already losing their jobs - Ukraine has taken their place.
  30. TOR2
    TOR2 15 December 2014 20: 44
    +3
    Apparently garny lads bear only in the paintings seen. A weak repeat in the forest ?! laughing
  31. Tribuns
    Tribuns 15 December 2014 22: 05
    0
    I recommend to Ukrainian "poster artists" five synonyms for Ukraine:

    1. "Kingdom of Crooked Mirrors" (Russian film of the same name).
    2. "Country of not frightened idiots" (Russian film "Genius").
    3. "The Island of Bad Luck" (the song of the same name from the Russian film "The Diamond Arm").
    4. "Brothel" (an indecent institution with naked girls and boys, focused on customers from the EU and the USA).
    5. Post-Soviet "madhouse" (a psychiatric hospital that occupied most of the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR).

    The author does not pretend to be the final set of synonyms!
  32. Sendi7s
    Sendi7s 15 December 2014 22: 11
    0
    A group of 2-3 mentally unbalanced individuals wrote these posters, and in Kiev they decided to arrange a performance. They are far from art, no matter how regrettable to be aware of this. The worst thing is that children are instilled with such a wrong perception of the world.
  33. elenagromova
    elenagromova 16 December 2014 06: 11
    0
    On a poster with a bear - why dill yellow pants? To, if there is a little trouble with the bladder, it was not noticeable.
  34. 89144167767
    89144167767 16 December 2014 09: 48
    0
    The posters are obviously for complacency in muffled tones and it is noticeable that 2-3 authors took photoshop because plagiarism is obvious without bothering to come up with their own. Pure propaganda of Yatsenyuk-Goebels they are similar to many.