The Ministry of Defense has accumulated claims to Spetsstroy

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The waste, the disruption of construction deadlines and the program for the rearmament of troops in the Far East were the reason for the proceedings at the government level. The military are dissatisfied with the work of Spetsstroy and present many complaints to the federal agency. In particular, builders do not have time to build military sites in the Kuril Islands on time. This newspaper reports Look with reference to a source in the Ministry of Defense.

The Ministry of Defense has accumulated claims to Spetsstroy


According to the source, the contract from 2012 was disrupted for a comprehensive arrangement of the military town on the island of Iturup. “The contractor should complete everything by November next year's 15. To build dormitories for officers and soldiers, a checkpoint, a division headquarters, a training building for 330 people, a first-aid post for 50 beds, a nutrition center, a parade ground, training grounds, fuel storage, warehouses, a sports training complex and other facilities, ”said the source.

In total, Spetsstroy should hand over 150 facilities located in the Far East, including the Kuril Islands, next year. The cost of the project 12 billion rubles. The military expected to get modern autonomous small towns with developed infrastructure on the islands, but the builders could not organize work either on Iturup or Kunashir.

“The general contractors of FSUE“ Spetsstroyinzhiniring ”, GUIR No. 2 (organizations under the jurisdiction of Spetsstroy) started construction only in July of this year,” a newspaper source told the Ministry of Defense. “At the same time, more than 3 billion rubles were advanced in accordance with the contract. Organizations that performed the work did not see these funds. ”

According to the source, “in fact, there is no design estimate for which the general contractor is responsible, neither the working documentation for the facilities, nor the technical conditions of the work, and of the required 700 people today less than a third are hired.” “The delay in performing design and survey work on 10 in November was 469 days,” said the source. - For the Kuril Islands, this is equivalent to a delay of several years. In their defense, contractors merely argue that they could not begin construction "due to weather conditions."

The same sad picture and Kunashir. “Under the contract of 2012, Spetsstroy’s contractors — Spetsstroyinzhiniring and GUIR No. 2 — had to hand over similar infrastructure to the base by 2015, but so far they could only deploy a temporary administrative town to 20 people and bring building materials. Only 32 people work on the island, while at least 600 specialists are required, ”a source said.

The newspaper reminds that not so long ago the head of the FSUE “GUSS“ Dalspetsstroy ”(submits to Spetsstroy), retired lieutenant-general Yuri Khrrizman, who for two years stole (squandered) 1,8 billion, was arrested.

According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense in the Kuril Islands, the rearmament of the 18th division of missile forces and artillery, which includes the 484th machine gun and artillery regiment on Iturup and the 46th on Kunashir, should be completed. Only 3,5 thousand military personnel. 80% of the regiment’s equipment is in need of repair or must be discarded. Units are still armed dug in the ground. tanks T-34 and IS-2/3.

“In order to guarantee Russian sovereignty over the Kuril Islands,” told the newspaper National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko, “in addition to the planned rearmament of the 18 division stationed there, it is necessary to deploy two C-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems, which There will be anti-aircraft missile-gun systems "Pantsir-С1". As well as the coastal missile system "Bastion" with anti-ship missiles "Yakhont" and several modern radar control airspace to ensure a solid radar field. "

In addition, according to the expert, after the reconstruction of the airfields in the Kuril Islands, an air base can be created, equipped with new Su-35.

“It can be assumed that the case will not be limited to lawsuits for the recovery of penalties in the Kuril Islands. Disruption of work here directly affects the plans of military construction and national security, ”the publication sums up.
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    1. +15
      10 December 2014 10: 07
      Units are still armed with T-34 tanks dug in the ground and IS-2/3 self-propelled guns.


      Abruptly good , and if they are still in working order, then generally a class! And we are dying over the archaic weapons of the DPRK.
      1. +8
        10 December 2014 11: 21
        When did these heavy IS-2 and IS-3 tanks become self-propelled guns ?! There was a mistake or a typo in the text.
        1. 0
          10 December 2014 17: 41
          there is a typo ... More precisely, it may be, but the fact that tanks from the time of the Great Patriotic War are dug along the border, I tell you with all responsibility. And at this level we are holding the enemy. Where are the sights, by the way, only God knows of them.
    2. +16
      10 December 2014 10: 08
      The century of information technology, and the construction was prosperous ... And after all, everyone was deeply fooled by this for a whole year ... It is time to change management approaches, dear ones. And tighten the punishment. Well this is not a pie s3,14zdit - this is an undermining of the country's defense.
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 11: 22
        Quote: nicolay338
        And tighten the punishment


        It seems to fall to the Supreme from the Secretary General ...
      2. +2
        10 December 2014 13: 22
        In Spetsstroy already changed management approaches in 2011. The result is on the face. It's time to turn Abroskin ...
    3. +3
      10 December 2014 10: 11
      Of course I'm sorry, but what does that mean ?? Marked in red:

      According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense in the Kuril Islands, the rearmament of the 18-th division of missile forces and artillery, which includes the 484-th machine-gun artillery regiment on Iturup and the 46-th on Kunashir, should be completed. Total 3,5 troops. 80% of the regiment’s equipment is in need of repair or is subject to decommissioning. Units are still armed with T-34 tanks dug in the ground and IS-2 / 3 self-propelled guns.
      1. +5
        10 December 2014 10: 16
        3rd awake, 1 sleeping. Somehow it seems to me smile
        PiSi: and also, maybe 1 in the project smile il retired at half rate ...
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      3. +5
        10 December 2014 10: 24
        Quote: Gomel
        Total 3,5 troops.


        This is one and a half digger laughing , and maybe the 3rd recruit and 0,5 is already a demobilization?
        1. +3
          10 December 2014 10: 27
          No, well, only 0.5 demobilization and should drinks
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      4. +5
        10 December 2014 10: 58
        all this nonsense I myself came from Iturup Is 3 dug only in the old Soviet coastal fortification system, and so in the most part the T 80 tanks and the old T 55 and T 62 tanks and cities there, as for the artillery, I don’t remember what the Torah and Shilka air defense remained still MTLB and GTT
        1. 0
          10 December 2014 17: 44
          And who can shoot from the city? As I recall, I’ll find a part - 6 cities and one lieutenant colonel that can control them ... They sailed =)
    4. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 13
      You don’t have to worry about working condition - if the militia removed the IS-3 from the pedestal and even fought on it, then with minimal maintenance the WWII equipment will last a long time.
      1. +2
        10 December 2014 10: 29
        Quote: made13
        You don’t have to worry about working condition - if the militia removed the IS-3 from the pedestal and even fought on it


        They removed it, but did they fight?
        1. 0
          10 December 2014 14: 18
          IS 3, captured by the Ukrainian army, stood at the exhibition of captured equipment in Kiev. There was a photo gallery from the site website
        2. 0
          10 December 2014 14: 18
          IS 3, captured by the Ukrainian army, stood at the exhibition of captured equipment in Kiev. There was a photo gallery from the site website
    5. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 13
      And where can I see the carcasses hung on aspen?
      1. FACKtoREAL
        +4
        10 December 2014 10: 31
        In the same place as the treasury executed at the Mausoleum of the Dzerzhinsky Mauser ... laughing
        1. +4
          10 December 2014 11: 29
          We wrinkle our forehead and in a voice, together we ask: "WHERE LANDING? !!!" laughing
      2. +1
        10 December 2014 12: 08
        If we hang everyone, then who will rule us? And to cut the budget is not to cut the wood with Friendship-2.
    6. +5
      10 December 2014 10: 14
      For the failure of the defense of the order to judge very strictly as for the state. treason.
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 10: 30
        I agree! comfort does not depend on this, but our very existence! moreover, the process should be conducted rigidly and openly - so that others would be afraid to think about such breakdowns ...
      2. 0
        10 December 2014 12: 09
        For the failure of the defense order will be transplanted into another chair.
      3. 0
        10 December 2014 14: 10
        Quote: Hera7
        Hera7 Today, 10: 14
        For the failure of the defense of the order to judge very strictly as for the state. treason.


        For good, this is the state. treason ...
    7. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 14
      Truly a problem for Russia, 600 construction workers. I understand that we are not talking about migrant workers. So you need to dig deeper into the education system. Under the Union, the sea was a vocational school, vocational school, technical schools, and now they are preparing some lawyers and economists. And all such wonderful plans for the rearmament and equipping of our Armed Forces are broken up into such a triviality, it’s insulting.
    8. +5
      10 December 2014 10: 14
      The newspaper reminds that not so long ago the head of the FSUE “GUSS“ Dalspetsstroy ”(submits to Spetsstroy), retired lieutenant-general Yuri Khrrizman, who for two years stole (squandered) 1,8 billion, was arrested.

      For undermining defense - execution.

      armed with T-34 tanks and self-propelled guns IS-2/3, dug into the ground.

      The IS-2/3 is still not self-propelled. request
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 12: 13
        You can’t be shot. Humanity is above all. The death penalty was banned - the people were asked horseradish. Canceled confiscation - the same thing.
        1. 0
          10 December 2014 15: 28
          Quote: WINovikov
          Canceled confiscation - the same thing.

          No, well, those whom she threatened, still asked. wink
    9. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 14
      Yesterday they wrote about it. I thought today they would write that the guilty were all arrested.
    10. aleksandr33
      +5
      10 December 2014 10: 15
      Here you need to judge in the compartment and those who helped to steal, undermining the combat readiness of the countries, and those who dishonored the honor of the officer stole. The punishment must be toughened up, Treason to the Motherland is death ....
    11. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 18
      It's time to tighten the punishment for unjustified embezzlement, disruption of the defense of orders!
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 12: 17
        Toughened up. They’ll plant a loaf of bread, and release it for billions. Example: Serdyukov, Vasiliev (in a couple of years they will be given orders and medals and material compensation for moral damage).
    12. 0
      10 December 2014 10: 18
      Given what building Spetsstroy managed to build for the archive of the Russian Defense Ministry in Podolsk, there is nothing to be surprised at.
    13. -1
      10 December 2014 10: 20
      Russia is truly a country of thieves !!!
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 10: 42
        Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov-Shchedrin is given a special place in Russian literature, because not a single writer in his works criticizes, does not ridicule and does not denounce reality so aptly and mercilessly.
        Despite the fact that he wrote almost two centuries ago, his stories are very similar to what is happening in Russia now. Heroes characterize the modern world so accurately that it seems that the writer just looked into the future and wrote about us.

        - If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years, and they ask me what is happening in Russia, I will answer: they drink and steal ...
        - In all countries, railways serve for movement, and in our country, moreover, for theft.
        - When and what bureaucrat was not convinced that Russia has a pie to which you can freely approach and eat?
        - The Russian government should keep its people in a state of constant amazement.
        - The rigor of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation.
        - Well, with us, brother, not so. We would not only have eaten apples, but branches would have broken everything! At our place, Uncle Sofron walked past a mug of kerosene - and he drank it all!
        - In order to steal with success, you need to have only agility and greed. Greed is especially necessary, because for a small theft you can go to court.
        Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov-Shchedrin
        1. Nikolav
          +2
          10 December 2014 11: 14
          There was such a poet, Alexei Konstantinovich Tolstoy. He has a wonderful poem "History of the Russian State from Gostomysl to Timashev."
          The poem is too large to be fully quoted here, so I will quote the beginning.
          Listen guys
          What will tell you grandfather.
          Our land is rich
          There is no order in it.
          2

          And this truth, kids
          For a thousand years
          Our ancestors dared:
          Order de, you see, no.
          3

          And they all became under the banner
          And they say: “How are we to be?
          Let's send to the Vikings:
          Let them come to reign.
          4

          After all, the Germans are too busy
          He knows the darkness and light
          Our earth is rich,
          There is only no order in it. ”
          5

          Messengers at a brisk pace
          Went there
          And they say to the Vikings:
          “Come, gentlemen!
          6

          We will send you gold
          What Kiev sweets;
          Our land is rich
          There is only no order in it. ”
          7

          The Varangians became terribly
          But they think: “Well here?
          An attempt is not a joke
          Come on, if they’re calling! ”
          8

          And so the three brothers came,
          Middle-aged Varangians,
          They look - the earth is rich,
          There is no order at all.

          The point is that nothing has changed in a thousand years.
    14. +3
      10 December 2014 10: 23
      An eternal problem, as long as there was all the chocolate, nobody (and the top ones) needed anything, but as soon as the rooster pecked the hustle and bustle began all over Russia and in all spheres of the state’s life.
    15. 0
      10 December 2014 10: 26
      New troops will appear in the Russian army
      A new type of troops is being created in the Russian army - the Military Space Forces. This was reported to reporters in the Ministry of Defense. According to the source, the relevant decisions have already been taken, officially the creation of the videoconferencing will be announced in the near future.


      “All necessary decisions to create a new type of Armed Forces have been made. This will be announced officially in the near future. The aerospace defense will include the air defense forces and aviation, which today include the air force, information and strike forces, and equipment included in the aerospace defense forces, ”the military department told Interfax. Thus, the Armed Forces will have three commands - the Ground Forces, the Navy and the Aerospace Forces.

      The formation of a new type of troops will occur in stages over several years. As part of the videoconferencing, several systems will be developed: a reconnaissance and warning system for an aerospace attack; the system of defeat and suppression of the forces and means of an aerospace attack of the enemy; unified management system; system of comprehensive support of the aerospace forces.

      The commander of the new troops is expected to be one of the commanders of the military districts, as they have experience in managing large varietal groupings of troops, including aviation and air defense forces. The source named the commander of the troops of the Central Military District Colonel General Vladimir Zarudnitsky the most likely candidate.
      1. +2
        10 December 2014 10: 48
        "Shaw? Again?" How many of them can you create?
        "Maybe at the conservatory, something to fix?" (M.M. Zhvanetsky)
    16. +3
      10 December 2014 10: 30
      Impunity is one of the causes of the crisis in our country!
    17. kelevra
      +2
      10 December 2014 10: 31
      It’s necessary to plant the people responsible for such construction without pity! Give long periods so that they call money, especially state ones, in general they were afraid to pronounce!
    18. +4
      10 December 2014 10: 35
      2 years out of the 3 released have already passed, but in the Moscow Region they just realized it ?! Where are the network schedules for putting objects into operation, where is the control over the execution of work performed and the acts of receiving objects? Who was personally responsible for the construction and commissioning of the facilities? The answer will probably be a classic - again, the Jews are to blame for everything, and V.V. PUTIN, personally!
      1. +3
        10 December 2014 10: 39
        Quote: sso-250659
        The answer will probably be a classic - again, the Jews are to blame for everything, and V.V. PUTIN, personally!

        Do not forget about Serdyukov. Nothing that he has been gone for two years. wink
        1. 0
          10 December 2014 10: 44
          see my comment to "rn6lle Today, 10:20 ↓ Russia is truly a country of thieves !!!"
      2. +4
        10 December 2014 12: 43
        Quote: sso-250659
        Jews are again to blame for everything, and V.V. PUTIN, personally!

        It’s time for Putin to introduce direct presidential rule! Apparently, HIS words shake the air, no more! Stealing is not childish at all! you need to steal funds from the MIN. DEFENSE, to equate to the CRP. am CHANGE, with all that it implies ...
    19. +4
      10 December 2014 10: 38
      Oppresses the lack of personal responsibility among our bureaucrats. If the bureaucrat answered for each miscalculation in full, then there would be no such sloppiness.
    20. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 39
      It is necessary to shoot the perpetrators of such disruptions in construction - this is not theft and direct sabotage.
    21. pahom54
      +2
      10 December 2014 10: 41
      This organization is very vile - "Spetsstroy" ... It was vile even during the Soviet era, but at least on the party line it was possible not only a position, but also a head to lose ... And it was not for nothing that "Sir Tabureto" Spetsstroy removed from the rear The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and turned it into a civil organization with almost unlimited powers and financial resources, more precisely - unlimited opportunities for cutting the financial resources of the state ... Well, damn it, wherever you turn, and again you come across Serdyuk or the consequences of his "leadership" ...
      To jail stsstsuku urgently !!! And for life!
    22. +2
      10 December 2014 10: 43
      Only 32 people work on the island, while at least 600 specialists are required, ”the source said.


      The salary of the remaining 568 employees of "sawn" has long been.
    23. +1
      10 December 2014 10: 44
      The main thing is to plant corrupt officials along with relatives, otherwise it makes no sense.
      1. 0
        10 December 2014 11: 24
        Quote: ilya_oz
        The main thing is to plant corrupt officials along with relatives, otherwise it makes no sense.

        Are you not afraid of making such suggestions, what if a corrupt official starts up among your relatives? And then the fighter with corrupt officials Ilya will go to places not so remote ...
    24. mehmeh
      +4
      10 December 2014 10: 58
      They made a state company out of a stand and are surprised
      And the managers there are lying so they are called commanders in one family by their kind, the acquaintances of the Uzbeks built like that, in fact, there are golden toilets
      They hire non-citizens of Russia to objects. steal materials in an organized manner. everywhere fraud their service campaigns have. there is a fee for everything
      And the dachshund is coming. Generals in your pocket.
    25. +1
      10 December 2014 11: 00
      “We can assume that the case is not limited to claims for the recovery of forfeits in the Kuril Islands. Disruption of work here directly affects the plans for military development and ensuring national security ”- planting and always with confiscation, and only so, because we are talking about national security.
    26. +2
      10 December 2014 11: 01
      GDP more and more resembles Oblomov.
      As it was said there, it is impossible to cut jelly even with the sharpest knife. He slashed it on the kissel, even with the sharpest knife, the trace dragged on after a couple of minutes.
      The most acute and vital for the country, and therefore for all of us, undertakings, initiatives and even Decrees, instructions and orders blur into the "jelly" of the oligarchic-bureaucratic environment, whose name is Legion - 5 eaters, and what eaters!
      1. 0
        10 December 2014 11: 28
        http://otvet.mail.ru/question/54420478
        Why was Putin's decree No. 1 "On guarantees to the President of the Russian Federation who has terminated the exercise of his powers"?

        This Decree is not vague.
    27. +1
      10 December 2014 11: 12
      Only executions will save our country!
    28. 0
      10 December 2014 11: 13
      They steal everywhere, sorry.
    29. 0
      10 December 2014 11: 16
      not so long ago, the head of the FSUE GUSS Dalspetsstroy (subordinate to Spetsstroy) was arrested, retired lieutenant general Yuri Khrizman, who had stolen (squandered) 1,8 billion rubles in two years.


      Finally, the vertical got there too!
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 12: 45
        Quote: ma_shlomha
        not so long ago, the head of the FSUE GUSS Dalspetsstroy (subordinate to Spetsstroy) was arrested, retired lieutenant general Yuri Khrizman, who had stolen (squandered) 1,8 billion rubles in two years.


        Finally, the vertical got there too!

        here at such a stake, zh.p.o.y. you need to put him ...
    30. +3
      10 December 2014 11: 23
      Well, let's try to figure out the punks.
      1. The special building is under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense, the contract was concluded already in the 12th year - who has been monitoring its implementation all this time?
      2.
      “The general contractors of FSUE“ Spetsstroyinzhiniring ”, GUIR No. 2 (organizations under the jurisdiction of Spetsstroy) started construction only in July of this year,” a newspaper source told the Ministry of Defense. “At the same time, more than 3 billion rubles were advanced in accordance with the contract. Organizations that performed the work did not see these funds. ”

      We continue to angrily ask: where were the officials from the Ministry of Defense until July "this year" ?? To whom were they pumped three yards into the mine and what acts of completion were reported for them ??
      3.
      “In fact, there is neither the design estimate for which the general contractor is responsible, nor the working documentation for the facilities, nor the technical conditions of work, and less than a third of the required nearly 700 people are hired today.” “The delay in the implementation of design and survey works on November 10 amounted to 469 days, ...

      This is already, my dears, not at all funny. In the year-old that way, the 15th (better in the second half!), Special forces with pink ears will present PSD not at 12 yards, but somewhere at 15-18. But what about ?! Materials have risen in price, prices for work, too. The kickbacks are completely forgotten again.
      I watch the construction of camps for missilemen nearby. Yeah, the same Spetsstroy associates. And the "problems" are one to one.
      The customer — the Moscow Region, the command of the military branch (district), and the general and military prosecutor’s offices are calmly looking at this whole mess.
      They say that in China, suicide among officials and party workers is three times higher than in the country. Sometimes it’s envious ...
      But the rocket launchers, apparently, will step on duty under the open sky ...
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 12: 00
        The customer — the Moscow Region, the command of the military branch (district), and the general and military prosecutor’s offices are calmly looking at this whole mess.


        Finally, the vertical got there too!
      2. 0
        10 December 2014 13: 48
        The article is not clear. What kind of work can, in principle, be done without research, design documentation and detailed documentation? Maybe, instead of a dormitory, a bathhouse should be built, and indeed in another place? So far, builders have nothing to do there ...
    31. Roshchin
      0
      10 December 2014 11: 23
      It is not only and not so much about the timing as about the quality of construction of facilities. How to drink it that the timing of the construction of such facilities in the Far East was initially unrealistic, given the remoteness of the facilities, the long length of routes for the delivery of equipment and building materials. This was understood by both those who set these terms and those who undertook to build everything. Everything is as usual here. The main thing is to get the money, and there it will be somehow. So, let them do it for another 2 years, but they will do it right, and do not drive hack with the tacit consent of military "controllers" for the next visit of the President or the RF Ministry of Defense. So that later the walls do not collapse, the pipes do not burst, the boiler rooms do not stop in the frost and do not have to transport diesel fuel by helicopters. Haste is needed in another matter.
    32. +2
      10 December 2014 12: 08
      ON THE NUMBER, and the thing is ...... and WHEN THEY WILL SIT ALL OF THESE PRISONERS CONSIDERED FOR FREE COMPLETE THESE WORKS!
      GUESTS
    33. +2
      10 December 2014 12: 17
      Yes, everywhere in military construction sites such a mess. They rearm the regiment to the new YaRS, which was supposed to get into the database last year at its stationary positions, the year the construction was over was not visible, and when it got to this construction site it began to quietly go crazy: some migrant workers from the southern republics were building secret facilities.
      And the main mess in management: no one has completely figured out these customers, customer representatives, designers, contractors, subcontractors, co-contractors, installation supervisors, etc. There is no single center for construction management, and a whole bunch of contracts have been concluded for this object. which are not interconnected. And in Russian it turns out first we make concrete, then we lay communication channels, after that we put engineering communications under the cables. Evil takes. wassat
      1. +1
        10 December 2014 15: 12
        Quote: andr327
        And the main mess in management: no one has completely figured out these customers, customer representatives, designers, contractors, subcontractors, co-contractors, installation supervisors, etc.

        It would seem that the main beneficiary is this: the Strategic Missile Forces commander with his super-powerful control in Vlasikha. Organize a task force to manage all these processes, track schedules (yes, you must first make them up), raise the ball to the prosecutor’s office if they are violated ...
        No, this is not our way. It’s easier to watch on a concrete road in the forest.
    34. pinecone
      +2
      10 December 2014 12: 33
      But the names of the thieves' offices are very modern, somehow foreign. FSUE "Spetsstroyengineering". How! And this is a PUBLIC enterprise RUSSIAN FEDERATIONS.
    35. polkownik1
      +3
      10 December 2014 12: 53
      So where are the promised landings, Mr. Putin? There is direct sabotage and spit on the interests of the Russian Federation; all this is accompanied by theft.
    36. 0
      10 December 2014 13: 54
      Landing is a good thing. But how and who will plant. And how they will sit. If they will. If you do not get topple down. And maybe it’s like a hodor sit for pleasure and business then. The system needs to be changed and everyone’s personal attitude to the work that you are doing. The psychology of the majority, as it were, is to snatch from this state, but MORE !!!! It's a shame for the power, yes.
    37. 0
      10 December 2014 13: 55
      Landing is a good thing. But how and who will plant. And how they will sit. If they will. If you do not get topple down. And maybe it’s like a hodor sit for pleasure and business then. The system needs to be changed and everyone’s personal attitude to the work that you are doing. The psychology of the majority, as it were, is to snatch from this state, but MORE !!!! It's a shame for the power, yes.
    38. 0
      10 December 2014 14: 01
      Op. 52. Key - A minor, size 6/8. Is used
    39. SAA
      0
      10 December 2014 14: 06
      Poor, poor grandfather Stalin. He seeing such a mess, not just turning over, spinning a bindweed in a coffin.
    40. 0
      10 December 2014 14: 16
      Whose tower is rooted in the ground in the title photo?
      1. 0
        10 December 2014 14: 37
        t 54 sample 1947
    41. 0
      10 December 2014 15: 21
      hang on trunks t-34
    42. +1
      10 December 2014 15: 43
      Such generals should be relocated in batches to Magadan, but I think uncles from the Moscow Region are standing above him, who stole the money back in Moscow.
      1. 0
        10 December 2014 16: 19
        These uncles, therefore, are engaged in propaganda of calming relations between different sections of the public.
        (Propaganda (lat. Propaganda literally - “subject to dissemination (faith)”, from lat. Propago - “distribute”) - in modern political discourse is understood as the dissemination of views, facts, arguments and other information, including rumors or knowingly false information , for the formation of public opinion or other goals pursued by propagandists).
        I suppose the main ideological propagandist most likely is Op. 52. Key - A minor, size 6/8.
    43. +1
      10 December 2014 18: 19
      Not all that glitters is gold.
      Listen, so our army is just gold, and if you go through a file - a gilded piece of iron. Shoigu just can’t reach everything. But there is the same. A lot of people with stripes. Maybe a lot of them? So exchange them for sensible simple officers, and send the lamp-striker as a foreman to the islands. That’s the whole solution. There is no Stalin on them.
    44. Anton Sergeich
      0
      11 December 2014 21: 34
      Lately, you can only hear how billions disappear in Spetsstroy, first in the East, now here. It's time to do a specific cleaning there, so this organization has completely undermined its credibility. How can you trust budget money to thieves?

    "Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

    “Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"