Modern Russian means of electronic warfare under the force of "cut down" an entire regiment

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Modern weapon It becomes more intelligent and perfect, but at the same time it depends more and more on various radio-electronic systems. Modern military equipment is literally crammed with electronics, various sensors and sensors, which makes it more efficient, but at the same time more vulnerable for modern EW facilities. In Russia, the creation of modern electronic warfare is in full swing. Information has appeared on new developments in the field of electromagnetic weapons, for example, the Alabuga complex. Modern EW assets are actively being received by the troops, and their main producer is OJSC Concern Radioelectronic Technologies (KRET), which is part of the state corporation Russian Technologies.

The fact that an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is able to literally burn out electronics and prevent the passage of radio waves has been known for quite some time. This is clearly demonstrated by testing nuclear weapons. When the bomb exploded, a powerful electromagnetic pulse was generated, which disrupted electrical and electronic equipment, as well as disrupted radio communications. In 1961, when testing the Tsar Bomba (also known as Kuz'kina Mother) in the New Earth, the ionization of the atmosphere caused serious radio interference even hundreds of kilometers from the explosion site. Interference persisted for at least 40 minutes. Naturally, this phenomenon could not go unnoticed by the military.



The element base of radio-electronic means (RES) is very sensitive to energy overloads, so the flow of electromagnetic energy of sufficient density is able to burn semiconductor transitions, partially or completely disrupting their normal operation. So low-frequency electromagnetic weapons (EMO) can create electromagnetic pulsed radiation at frequencies below 1 MHz, and high-frequency electromagnetic radiation is affected by microwave radiation, both continuous and pulsed. Low-frequency electromagnetic interference has an impact on the affected objects by targeting wired infrastructure, including external power supply cables, information feed and retrieval, telephone lines. A high-frequency electromagnetic radiation directly penetrates into the electronic equipment of the target object through its antenna systems.



Knowing all this, the military wanted to possess such weapons. This weapon can not be called something supernatural for the Russian army. Back at the beginning of 1990, specialists from the Radiopribor Scientific Research Institute (now this division, part of the Almaz-Antey Concern) and the Ioffe Physical-Technical Institute, worked on a new design of the air defense system, which would be based on the effect of microwave radiation from the ground on air objects. It was assumed that the use of such weapons would be effective even against combat units of ICBMs, but the project was not implemented at that time.

However, there is already a real-life prototype of an electromagnetic weapon - the Russian “Knapsack” complex, which was first shown back in 2001 at an exhibition in Malaysia. According to information from open sources, this complex is able to provide guaranteed destruction of aircraft electronics, ground equipment or guided munitions at a distance of up to 14 km. "Satchel" is not without flaws, but then he and the prototype.

For the first time, the complex was shown at the Lima-2001 exhibition in Malaysia, where the export version of this installation was presented under the designation Ranets-E. The prototype of the electromagnetic weapon was built on the chassis of the MAZ-543 and had a mass of about 5 tons. The use of the “Knapsack” ensured the defeat of electronics of ground and air targets, as well as a variety of guided munitions at a distance of 14 kilometers, while the disruption of the electronics occurred at a distance of up to 40 kilometers. This development made then a real sensation in the world media. But even then, experts noted a number of shortcomings of the “Backpack”. First, the size of an effectively hit target does not exceed 30 meters in diameter. Secondly, the weapon, in fact, is disposable - the complex is of the order of 20 minutes. During this time, the miracle weapon will be able to destroy 15 from the air, and it can only work on targets in open areas where there are no significant visual obstacles. Most likely, this is why the United States abandoned these types of electromagnetic weapons of directional action, focusing more on lasers. However, in Russia, such developments and their "refinement to the mind" continue. An example of the continuation of work in this direction is the Alabuga project.

Modern Russian means of electronic warfare under the force of "cut down" an entire regiment


According to the specialists who are working on the project, the development of the technology has already passed the field test stage, work is underway on errors, the specialists are trying to increase the power, accuracy and range of the radiation. Currently, Alabuga, having exploded at an altitude of 200-300 meters, is able to turn off all electronic equipment within a 3,5 radius of a kilometer and leave the enemy's military unit (battalion / regiment) without controls, communications, fire guidance. With such a development of events, all the equipment can turn into a pile of unnecessary scrap metal. In this situation, the best solution for the enemy will be the surrender and transfer of heavy weapons as trophies. They have no other options for action.

An unnamed expert in an interview with Expert Online reported that an electromagnetic pulsed weapon had become a reality. The main problems now with the development of means of delivering it to the goal. All work on the project "Alabuga" is classified. It is only known that this is a rocket with a combat unit in the form of a high-frequency electromagnetic field generator of high power. The effect of active pulsed radiation produces the same effect as in a nuclear explosion, but without the radioactive component. Field tests show that "Alabuga" strikes not only electronic, but also ordinary electronic equipment of wire architecture. The main problem is related only to the creation of means of delivering such a charge - it has a sufficiently large mass, therefore the rocket must be massive, which increases its vulnerability to enemy air defense / missile defense, the expert noted.

In general, from the state program on rearmament of the army, which is designed for up to 2020 of the year, 15% (more than 3's trillion rubles) are embedded in the attack and defense systems with sources of electromagnetic radiation. For comparison: The Pentagon spends about 10% of all its funds for these purposes. Here, however, we should not forget about the financial capabilities of the Russian and American defense departments. Already, we can consider those systems that can really be “felt”, that is, those that have reached mass production and have begun to enter into service with the Russian army in the last few years.

Beauty-4


Such weapons include a mobile electronic warfare complex called "Kraukha-4." Information about this means of electronic warfare is extremely scarce. And on the site of KRET concern contains only a brief description of the complex's capabilities. In particular, it is reported that Krasukha-4 is able to suppress even spy satellites of a potential enemy, as well as its ground-based radars and aviation AWACS systems (early warning and control radar systems). The complex is able to completely hide military installations from 150-300 kilometers of radar detection; in addition, it can inflict radar damage to enemy electronic warfare systems and communications. The operation of the complex consists in staging powerful interference at the main frequencies of the radar and other radio-emitting sources.

The manufacturer of Krasukha-4 is JSC Bryansk Electromechanical Plant (BEMZ), which is part of the KRET concern. Each Krasukha-4 complex consists of two heavy vehicles on the KamAZ-6350 8x8 chassis. For two years 2012-2013 in Bryansk, 10 similar wide-range stations of powerful noise interference or, as they are also called, ground-based multifunctional jamming modules, were assembled. The main purpose of these complexes is to protect stationary objects from radar reconnaissance radars and radars of strike aircraft and reconnaissance / reconnaissance-strike aircraft drones.



In addition, the Russian army receives a sea-based EW complex under the designation TK-25E, which is able to provide effective protection for ships of various classes. TK-25E is designed for electronic protection of offshore facilities from ship-based and air-based radio-controlled weapons by active jamming. It is planned to interface this complex with various systems of the protected object, such as radar, navigation complex, automated combat control system. The equipment used in the TK-25E complex is able to provide various types of interference with a spectrum width from 64 to 2000 MHz, as well as pulsed imitation and misleading interference using signal copies. KRET reports that the complex is able to analyze simultaneously up to 256 targets. It is reported that the installation of such a complex on the protected object in a state of 3 and more likely to reduce the likelihood of his defeat by the enemy.

Technical characteristics of TK-25E:
The detection zone in azimuth is 360 °, in elevation - 0 ... 40 °.
The detection range of radio electronic devices is within the radio horizon for surface targets and anti-ship missiles, aircraft at distances exceeding the vehicle detection range by 10-20%.
The number of simultaneously suppressed directions is from 2 to 4.
Radar detection range - PL, SC, X-Ku, K-Ka, Ka.
The root mean square error of direction finding is no more than 1,5 ... 5 °.
The number of simultaneously analyzed targets is no more than 256.
Types of active interference - pulsed, continuous.
The number of controlled passive jamming tools is up to 16.
The RES catalog is 1000.



Another in service is the multifunctional EW complex “Mercury-BM”. It was created and produced at KRET concern enterprises since 2011, being at the moment one of the most modern EW systems. The main purpose of the Mercury-BM complex is to protect equipment and manpower from single and volley fire with artillery ammunition and missiles equipped with radio fuses. The complex is able to provide protection for equipment and personnel in the territory of 50 ha. The complex is mounted on the basis of a light armored tracked chassis MT-LB, thanks to which it has good mobility and terrain characteristics. The combat crew of the complex consists of two people, the deployment time of the complex is no more than 10 minutes. This EW complex can counteract not only radio fuses, if necessary it can be used to silence the frequencies at which the enemy performs radio communications. Enterprise-developer of the complex - JSC Research Institute "Gradient".

Technical characteristics of "Mercury-BM":
The operating frequency range is 95-420 MHz.
The area covered by interference is at least 20 ha.
Equivalent sensitivity - 95-110 dB / W.
Electronic countermeasure potential - 250 watts.
The probability of suppression is at least 0,8.
The number of VHF radio suppressed lines is 3-6.
The angle of rotation of the antenna device is not less than ± 150 degrees.
Crew - 2 person.

In addition, the concern "Constellation" is engaged in the release of small-sized interference transmitters series RP-377 (wearable, portable and autonomous). Using these interference transmitters, you can successfully jam GPS signals, and in the standalone version, which is equipped with power sources, you can do this by placing interference transmitters in a certain area, which will be limited only by the number of transmitters themselves. Currently, Russia is also working to create a more powerful system for the suppression of weapon and GPS control channels. This system of object and area protection against high-precision weapons will be built on the basis of a modular principle, which will make it possible to vary both the objects of protection and the covered areas. Among unclassified developments, it is also possible to distinguish the products of MNIRTI - "Sniper-M" and "Gigawatt", which are made on the basis of trailers. They can be used to test the protection of digital and radio systems for military, civilian and special purposes from damage by their electromagnetic pulses.

Information sources:
http://expert.ru/2014/09/28/elektromagnitnoe-oruzhie-uzhe-postupaet-na-vooruzhenie-rossijskoj-armii
http://www.rg.ru/2014/10/02/alabuga-site.html
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201412022007-x73r.htm
http://kret.com (КРЭТ)
http://rostec.ru (Ростех)
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  1. +2
    10 December 2014 07: 46
    interference guidance, protection against EMP however
    1. 0
      10 December 2014 23: 18
      EMP is an electromagnetic pulse, in addition, it is very short, try to detect without burning. Even in Soviet times, I saw theoretical developments on this topic, now, I think, the development should loom in real products.
    2. 0
      10 December 2014 23: 18
      EMP is an electromagnetic pulse, in addition, it is very short, try to detect without burning. Even in Soviet times, I saw theoretical developments on this topic, now, I think, the development should loom in real products.
  2. -14
    10 December 2014 08: 08
    An unnamed expert, in an interview with Expert Online, said that electromagnetic impulse weapons have become a reality.

    I would like to clarify with an unnamed expert how EMR penetrates through screens, say a Faraday cage? What about the lead underpants of those who sit in the Knapsack? And who finally gave that name to a wagon-sized complex?
    1. +10
      10 December 2014 09: 11
      Quote: professor
      I would like to clarify with an unnamed expert how EMR penetrates through screens, say a Faraday cage?

      Let me explain that if something is tucked into the "cage" tightly, then nothing, but nothing comes out of there either. But if wires, antennas, etc. leave the cage, they penetrate quite normally. The contours of the transceivers will certainly burn everything.
      1. -8
        10 December 2014 09: 22
        Quote: i80186
        Let me explain that if something is tucked into the "cage" tightly, then nothing, but nothing comes out of there either. But if wires, antennas, etc. leave the cage, they penetrate quite normally. The contours of the transceivers will certainly burn everything.

        Well, if you put fuses on the antennas and wires? wink
        1. +2
          10 December 2014 09: 29
          Quote: professor
          Well, if you put fuses on the antennas and wires?

          In drones, planes and rockets? Original. laughing
          But in general, the power transmitted through these same wires / antennas is much greater than the threshold of failure of parts inside the circuit, and fuses do not make sense. Not to mention the complexity of the implementation thereof. EMR is a global thing, in fact, even cars with all sorts of fashionable injectors will die.
          1. -8
            10 December 2014 09: 40
            I do not pretend to be an expert in the field of electronics, and therefore my proposals may seem divorced from reality, but nonetheless ...

            Quote: i80186
            In drones, planes and rockets? Original.

            There is a fuse on my old transistor radio, so why can’t I create a protective circuit for the antenna that will disconnect it when there is a power surge and reconnect after a certain time?

            Quote: i80186
            But in general, the power transmitted through these same wires / antennas is much greater than the threshold of failure of parts inside the circuit, and fuses do not make sense.

            Output power ... I will put a diode that does not allow current to pass in the opposite direction ...

            Quote: i80186
            EMR is a global thing, in fact, even cars with all sorts of fashionable injectors will die.

            EMP is not so much global as it is PR. Where is her combat experience?
            1. +7
              10 December 2014 11: 10
              Quote: professor
              I do not pretend to be an expert in the field of electronics, and therefore my proposals may seem divorced from reality, but nonetheless ...

              Quote: i80186
              In drones, planes and rockets? Original.

              There is a fuse on my old transistor radio, so why can’t I create a protective circuit for the antenna that will disconnect it when there is a power surge and reconnect after a certain time?

              Quote: i80186
              But in general, the power transmitted through these same wires / antennas is much greater than the threshold of failure of parts inside the circuit, and fuses do not make sense.

              Output power ... I will put a diode that does not allow current to pass in the opposite direction ...

              Quote: i80186
              EMR is a global thing, in fact, even cars with all sorts of fashionable injectors will die.

              EMP is not so much global as it is PR. Where is her combat experience?

              Even the same diode will interfere with reception and transmission. Yes, of course there is protection for all devices, but if there is no way to burn the control equipment as you think, then it can be. the signal itself is distorted, i.e. suppression, suppression of the control signal is going on, which accordingly will bring the device out of stable operation
              for protection they use not a diode but a lamp, as it were, they are not afraid of surges of the electromagnetic pulse, but all filters, lamps play the role of protection but do not protect from distortion of the signal itself
              1. -4
                10 December 2014 11: 48
                Quote: Fantazer911
                i.e. there is suppression, jamming of the control signal, which accordingly will bring the device out of stable operation

                Definitely, but the impulse for that and the impulse is very limited in time. After it doesn’t become, the connection will be improved.
            2. +13
              10 December 2014 15: 51
              I will answer you as a person directly related to communication. Lead panties are not needed as the radiation comes in a narrow beam. Your fuse will not help because the transistors themselves will burn out due to microcurrents caused by the emitter. Put diodes and your equipment will stop working because the current will cease to be alternating. And still, this will not save you from Amy because of the same microcurrents that do not care for your diodes. Faraday cage is a good thing, but for closed systems. Radio stations, radars and everything that emits or receives electromagnetic will burn. It will also be with all the external cables of which there are a lot. There is a way out of the situation. As we were asserted by special lamp circuits, they are not susceptible to amy, but these are different dimensions and weight.
              1. 0
                10 December 2014 15: 54
                Quote: Mikhail Zubarev
                I will answer you as a person directly related to communication.

                Thanks for the detailed answer. hi
    2. Andrey Ulyanovsky
      -6
      10 December 2014 09: 11
      I washed the expert with constructive criticism, Prof. Professor, cho!
    3. +2
      10 December 2014 09: 46
      Quote: professor
      I would like to clarify with an unnamed expert how EMR penetrates through screens, say a Faraday cage?

      Each electronic device has an external output - whether the antenna, eyepiece, wire in the end. It is clear that many of these devices have protection, but the remote protection of the antenna output also destroys the device.
      1. -5
        10 December 2014 09: 57
        Quote: tchoni
        Each electronic device has an external output - whether the antenna, eyepiece, wire in the end. It is clear that many of these devices have protection, but the remote protection of the antenna output also destroys the device.

        At my home, a fuse device is included in the socket, which serves as protection against power surges (for example, when there is a lightning strike in a power line in my village). Through such devices from HUNDAY, I connected all the expensive electronic devices. In the event of a power surge, this device disconnects the line for 30 seconds. It costs $ 5 nonsense.

        What problems do similar on military equipment?
        1. +3
          10 December 2014 10: 23
          Cool ... But how can such a thing protect, for example, an IR seeker? There, even glass is not welcome
          1. -3
            10 December 2014 11: 45
            Quote: Spade
            Cool ... But how can such a thing protect, for example, an IR seeker? There, even glass is not welcome

            Usually caps are made of ceramics. There is a ceramic called dissipative which is not an insulator. In addition, nothing prevents you from installing a metal mesh on the GOS. I already observed similar on the GOS of the Russian air-to-air missiles.
            1. +2
              10 December 2014 12: 55
              Metal grid ... the microwave grid heats up, the infrared seeker ceases to see something ... But this will not prevent the missile from reaching the target?
              1. -5
                10 December 2014 13: 35
                Quote: Spade
                Metal grid ... the microwave grid heats up, the infrared seeker ceases to see something ... But this will not prevent the missile from reaching the target?

                It takes a long time to heat the grid and then the lens, and the pulse is short.
                1. +2
                  10 December 2014 15: 30
                  Short but powerful. Take an iron plate, put in the microwave and turn on to maximum.
        2. +7
          10 December 2014 10: 40
          Proffessor, you would have to learn a piece of mate, otherwise you with a smart mind mix God's gift with a fried egg. In your opinion, it’s not academicians who create all electronic warfare systems, but people who arbitrarily appropriated the name Professor? ))))
          1. -11
            10 December 2014 11: 46
            Quote: Absurdidat
            Proffessor, you would have to learn a piece of mate, otherwise you with a smart mind mix God's gift with a fried egg. In your opinion, it’s not academicians who create all electronic warfare systems, but people who arbitrarily appropriated the name Professor? ))))

            That’s what I’m doing, I’m studying materiel. You, besides the slogans, wanted something practical to say?
        3. +5
          10 December 2014 11: 34
          EMP will have time to "bang" and your "switch-on" if it is not tube or mechanical.
          1. +1
            10 December 2014 12: 37
            Bliiin! Again "Russian troops in Ukraine" were sleeping by chance ... wassat laughing
        4. +7
          10 December 2014 12: 24
          Quote: professor
          At my home, a fuse device is included in the socket, which serves as protection against power surges (for example, when there is a lightning strike in a power line in my village). Through such devices from HUNDAY, I connected all the expensive electronic devices. In the event of a power surge, this device disconnects the line for 30 seconds. It costs $ 5 nonsense.

          Each device has its own protection limits. So, for example, for your device, a sharp jump in current (once every 100 in relation to the nominal value) will be fatal for a time that is shorter than the response time (made up of the reaction time and the shutdown time). Or, say, the same jump, or even the current supply is lower than the trip value, but at a frequency of 100 times the network. That is why impulses are dangerous. Fuse failure - the same device output. For example. if the pulses are not strong at your device (2 times higher than the nominal) lasting a little longer than the reaction time for every 30 seconds, nothing will work for you, but most likely. After 2-3 operations, the device will notify you of network problems and will advise you to turn on later.
        5. +2
          10 December 2014 21: 47
          In the event of a power surge, this device will disconnect the line for 30 seconds. - No electronic device has protected the equipment from a DIRECT lightning strike. The fact is that long wires have an inductance that "stretches" a powerful pulse in time, allowing such a device to adequately respond to a lightning strike, say, 1 km away. In the antenna-feeder path, present in radio stations and radars, the introduction of protective inductances will simply not allow the equipment to work.
          In EMR, an important criterion is the energy density per unit time. For example, coal has 8 times greater energy efficiency per unit mass (kJ / kg) than TNT.
  3. 0
    10 December 2014 08: 13
    Of course, I’m not special at all in this, but if the main threat is a large-scale attack on our country with the help of cruise missiles, is work being done to create devices that will redirect these same missiles back home. Since we know how to land drones, maybe we can put a virus into GPS satellites.
    1. -15
      10 December 2014 08: 16
      Quote: Tatar-in
      Since we can plant drones

      In the sick heads of phanazers.
      1. +14
        10 December 2014 08: 53
        In fact, an emergency landing of an unmanned aircraft (the control channel was disconnected) took place, only the landing was not quite smooth, he planned uncontrollably from a height of about 500 meters and an uncontrolled flight lasted 40 minutes! But the result is a landing !!! Therefore, save rudeness for other cases!
        Your US ally must be destroyed !!! soldier
        1. -6
          10 December 2014 08: 58
          Quote: Hammer 75
          Actually

          What is your evidence?
        2. scripter
          -1
          11 December 2014 15: 40
          In fact, an emergency landing of an unmanned aircraft (the control channel was disconnected) took place, only the landing was not quite smooth, he planned uncontrollably from a height of about 500 meters and an uncontrolled flight lasted 40 minutes! But the result is a landing !!! Therefore, save rudeness for other cases!


          In the event of a control channel failure due to interference or malfunctions, the drone continues collecting intelligence information along the route trajectory (which, incidentally, is entered on the ground in preparation for the flight mission). In the worst case, it will go to its airfield along the programmed route using an inertial navigation system with GPS adjustments; no emergency will happen. fellow

          But how to hammer a satellite communication channel on the drone from the ground? After all, a narrowly directed antenna of space communication is directed up! good The professor is right that today it is only possible in the minds of visionaries ...

          Enough to reproduce here the tales of Soviet-Russian propaganda.
          1. scripter
            -1
            11 December 2014 16: 04
            Satellite antenna
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          3. scripter
            0
            11 December 2014 16: 10
            If you believe that during a nonplitonic flight it is possible to decrypt data encrypted using the simplest RSA encryption algorithm (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA)
            To decrypt this relatively simple algorithm, it takes about 15 years with modern computer powers.
            While the key can be changed at least every minute.
            wink
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      2. +3
        10 December 2014 08: 53
        In fact, an emergency landing of an unmanned aircraft (the control channel was disconnected) took place, only the landing was not quite smooth, he planned uncontrollably from a height of about 500 meters and an uncontrolled flight lasted 40 minutes! But the result is a landing !!! Therefore, save rudeness for other cases!
        Your US ally must be destroyed !!! soldier
      3. +9
        10 December 2014 09: 13
        Quote: professor
        What is your evidence?

        Exactly the same as YOUR statements about the last ATS air strike, where, as you specified, the latest Russian air defense systems were destroyed
        1. -5
          10 December 2014 09: 25
          Quote: gispanec
          Exactly the same as YOUR statements about the last ATS air strike, where, as you specified, the latest Russian air defense systems were destroyed

          Don't juggle. I said that "according to rumors" ... by the way, I can also throw a link to the site where they even indicate the model of the air defense system, but we are talking here about science fiction - the interception of control of the drone. And for this I want and demand proof.
      4. +8
        10 December 2014 09: 18
        Well, how to do without a processor.

        How is it in the protocols of the Sinai sages?
        You can not prove the opposite in the statements of the goy, ridicule his mistakes. So, it seems, if memory serves?
        1. -10
          10 December 2014 09: 26
          Quote: muginov2015
          Well, how to do without a processor.

          Young man, do not learn how to write a nickname correctly - add a black list of rude and Natsik.
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          2. +11
            10 December 2014 09: 33
            Here, here, and if something immediately hang the label of an evil anti-Semite. Brand. So to speak.
            By the way, thanks for the "young man" At 53, it's flattering.


            To the epithet "rude", I will answer you this way. You can pay attention to errors in the text in two ways: tactfully, or in your usual boorish manner.
            1. -3
              10 December 2014 09: 42
              Quote: muginov2015
              By the way, thanks for the "young man" At 53, it's flattering.

              and behave like a 15 year old request


              To the epithet "rude", I will answer you this way. You can pay attention to errors in the text in two ways: tactfully, or in your usual boorish manner.

              These are not errors in the text, but intentionally distorting the opponent’s nickname. But we understood each other. hi
              1. +3
                10 December 2014 09: 53
                Do not bother, professor, you perfectly understood what I mean:

                Quote: Tatar-in

                Since we can plant drones

                In the sick heads of phanazers.
                1. -6
                  10 December 2014 10: 01
                  Quote: muginov2015
                  In the sick heads of phanazers

                  That's right. Hacking a closed communication channel and seizing control can only visionaries and only their sick mind. In practice, this is not feasible.
                  1. +7
                    10 December 2014 11: 11
                    Quote: professor
                    At my home, a fuse device is included in the socket, which serves as protection against power surges (for example, when there is a lightning strike in a power line in my village).

                    Power protection and input protection are completely different things. Input circuits are highly sensitive, and with an electromagnetic pulse (the same lightning), if they do not fail completely, they lose their properties. And in everyday life, as practice shows during a thunderstorm, no dashboards save. But all good EM pulses do not care for good old radio tubes. And, as far as I know, they are still used (naturally in miniature and subminiature versions).

                    I allow myself to copy my own and my own from a neighboring branch:

                    Belgorodets RU Yesterday, 14:26 ↑

                    Taking control of a military drone is very problematic. This is not just a radio-controlled Chinese model, but a full-fledged drone, which itself can determine the degree of trust in the control or guidance channel. Recent cases of interception with a landing not at the launch point were associated with a deception of the navigation system, through the distortion of the GPS signal. But having a gyroscope on board the device and the ability to visually locate the area to filter out the erroneous GPS signal is not so difficult. It was a simple software flaw, which I think was quickly fixed.

                    region58 RU Yesterday, 17:00 ↑

                    Finally, sound explanations, otherwise I wanted to write something similar. UAV developers are not suckers. Several navigation systems that duplicate each other (GPS, inertial) plus encrypted control signals (more likely with a dynamic key, or even worse with the identifier of the manager), plus in which case the program for returning to the base is turned on, all this makes the task very difficult. And most importantly, everything needs to be done in real time. Not a single supercomputer is enough. Of course, you can use a powerful electromagnetic pulse to burn all the electronics off, but then what kind of control can we talk about? It will crash, and that's all. There were several lines from a year ago that some people were trying to get into our satellite, so he just stupidly went into protected mode, and was silent until ours was unblocked (the topic of information encryption is very wide). And nobody has canceled self-liquidation systems. Yes, and I doubt that they will be in a fuss about the interception of control, if it was actually somehow possible. It is one thing that we know, and quite another that they know what we know. Remember at least the hijacking of the MIG-25 to Japan - then, in my opinion, I had to change almost the entire identification system of my friend or foe. And so it would be great - at the right time sent all the enemy drones where necessary, and good. For those who think that connecting to UAV control is like throwing two wires onto a telephone line, I can offer at least to decode a paid Tricolor signal, or at least a blocked cellular one (without using softreset and hardreset). Something like this...
                    1. -5
                      10 December 2014 11: 54
                      Quote: region58
                      Recent incidents of interception with a landing other than at the launch point were associated with a deception of the navigation system by distorting the GPS signal

                      Nonsense. There were no "recent" interceptions. As well as there was no substitution of the GPS signal.

                      For the most part I agree with your comment.
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                  3. +14
                    10 December 2014 11: 11
                    That's right. Hacking a closed communication channel and seizing control can only visionaries and only their sick mind. In practice, this is not feasible.

                    Perhaps, I agree with this thought.
                    By the way, professor, have you heard a joke about why Jews read anti-Semitic newspapers, well, after that they like to hang out on Racean sites?

                    Moysha, why are you reading anti-Semitic newspapers?
                    You see, Zyama, when I read our newspapers, I just get depressed: everything is bad, prices are rising, everyone hates us, we will all be soon. Starting to read anti-Semitic newspapers and Schaub you thought? Jews rule the whole world, nothing is done in the world without us, we have all the money. Taki my mood immediately rises!
                  4. +1
                    10 December 2014 21: 54
                    Hack a closed communication channel and seize control - have you ever cut a wire cable? In the same way, you can chop off all the signals to the object. And how he behaves in this case (the object is blind) knows only its creator.
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      6. +6
        10 December 2014 12: 43
        After reviewing your articles, you can assume with your "sick" head that you are a Cossack who was sent. It all comes down to the propaganda of the Israeli military-industrial complex achievements. And for some reason it suggests that your arguments regarding the equipment of competitors, which include Russian manufacturers, are a simple flood. Smells like a sofa war.
        1. -4
          10 December 2014 12: 46
          Do not like it, pass by.
          1. +1
            10 December 2014 13: 03
            QED
            1. -2
              10 December 2014 13: 40
              Quote: Tatar-in
              QED

              Prove to whom? Your own family? Write better than me and more objectively than me and the administration will gladly post your work. Go ahead. hi
        2. +3
          10 December 2014 16: 26
          Quote: Tatar-in
          It all comes down to propagating the Israeli achievements of the military-industrial complex.

          It would be strange if the professor promoted the achievements of the Russian military-industrial complex (each sandpiper praises his own swamp). From "tricky" questions, the discussion of the article becomes more interesting ..... sometimes you learn more from the comments than from the article itself. Reading answers to "tricky" questions is much more interesting than reading comments like the slogans "glory to the KPSS".
    2. -1
      10 December 2014 21: 51
      Things like a GPS transmitter in orbit are usually not done in software, but in hardware. And the virus in this case is not an assistant.
  4. 0
    10 December 2014 09: 25
    Suppose what happens to civilians who suffer from cardiovascular diseases or with a built-in stimulator? If they are located in the vicinity of a military facility to which EMP waves are applied.
    1. +2
      10 December 2014 11: 17
      Kirdyk will be.

      Even a pacemaker can stop even from a working magnetic resonance tomograph. Therefore, in hospitals next to such rooms a warning sign hangs.
  5. ICT
    0
    10 December 2014 10: 45
    Quote: feniks
    or with a built-in stimulator?


    http://lifenews.ru/news/145152
    something like this



    but as mentioned above, the principle of electromagnetic radiation is practically realized only with an atomic or neutron bomb

    all others just have the principle of a microwave, concentrated on some direction and frequencies
  6. +6
    10 December 2014 11: 23
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Tatar-in
    Since we can plant drones

    In the sick heads of phanazers.


    http://www.mignews.com/news/technology/world/111211_135030_21866.html

    Meanwhile .., in 2011. in Iran, the American Sentinel RQ-170 spy drone was planted, disassembled, studied and copied by the same Russian "Autobase" ...

    Russian "Avtobaza" wiped its nose on the Sentinel RQ-170 drone.

    US officials were forced to admit "with a high degree of confidence" that the Sentinel RQ-170 spy drone on display by the Iranians was indeed the case.

    Robert Densmore, a former electronic warfare specialist and journalist specializing in the latest defense technology, says: “This loss is very significant. These drones are still very rare, and losing it in enemy territory, and even considering that most likely the Russians and the Chinese will get access, very, very unpleasant. Strategically, this is a serious defeat. The plane has radar, shape and coverage that are difficult to detect, and it is stuffed with very advanced electronics. " http://www.mignews.com/news/technology/world/111211_135030_21866.html

    Moscow has sold Iran advanced Avtobas, truck-mounted systems capable of jamming airplanes and electronic equipment used in guided missile guidance systems. The deal, announced in Moscow last Tuesday, significantly boosts Russia's military aid to the Islamic Republic.

    It is one thing to sell, and another thing to master a new technique. The message about the sale of IRTR 1L222 Avtobaza appeared in the media in the fall of 2011, and already at the end of November a top-secret American spy drone Sentinel RQ-170 miraculously landed in Iran. How long does it take to perfectly master the IRTR 1L222 "Avtobaza", at least 6 months, therefore, the conclusion suggests itself that today there are Russian instructors in Iran who train the Iranian military, and most likely it was Russian specialists who planted the Sentinel RQ spy drone -170.

    There is a version in the media that the RQ-170 ran out of fuel and fell to the ground. But if you look at what kind of Iran RQ-170 is in, then there is no talk of a fall at all, since there are no signs of a crash on the drone. One conclusion, RQ-170 planted. But how? After all, according to the United States, this is impossible. No wonder Zadorny calls the Americans stupid, so it is.

    Our specialists, in all likelihood, recorded radio signals that were received on the RQ-170, and tracked changes in the flight path. And then, drowning out the ether, broke the connection between the RQ-170 and the control center. After some time, the previously recorded signal was sent to the RQ-170 and it landed.

    So, the Russian "Avtobaza", costing "5 million rubles", wiped its nose on the Sentinel RQ-170 drone, costing hundreds of millions of dollars. This reminded the old case in Syria, when several Israeli planes were shot down with the C-125 complex, reducing the starting booster, which is equipped with loose powder charges, replacing them with logs. and as a result, the planes were shot down at a distance of less performance characteristics, which the Israelis did not expect, knowing the exact affected areas of the complex. Then it discouraged them from flying with impunity.
    1. -3
      10 December 2014 11: 56
      Quote: Fantazer911
      Meanwhile .., in 2011. in Iran was planted on the ground

      Money for the fish again? Well, how many of these fables can you? He fell, fell stupidly. I no longer intend to post a photo of how he was "planted".


      Russian "Avtobaza" wiped its nose on the Sentinel RQ-170 drone.

      "Autobase" PASSIVE. Passive, you see.
  7. +8
    10 December 2014 11: 30
    Quote: i80186
    In drones, planes and rockets? Original.
    There is a fuse on my old transistor radio, so why can’t I create a protective circuit for the antenna that will disconnect it when there is a power surge and reconnect after a certain time?

    Quote: i80186
    But in general, the power transmitted through these same wires / antennas is much greater than the threshold of failure of parts inside the circuit, and fuses do not make sense.
    Output power ... I will put a diode not allowing current to pass in the opposite direction.

    Comrades! What are the circuits, fuses and diodes? You still offer to ground ... This is not a kettle in a 50 Hz outlet). This is a high-frequency EMR - there are completely different effects. The impulse pickup along the circuit spreads instantly (speed of light) and no "fuses" will even have time to burn out to physically disconnect. Receiving means protection circuit - broken antenna)) With shielded receiving circuit. However, then it does not work)
    A pulsed EMR, using a simple example, may not be completely correct from the point of view of electrodynamics, but in fact it’s true - we take a kettle or a receiver, put fuses, circuits, diodes, etc. Plug in.
    And crap on it with a powerful laser!
    What will happen?
    -Dear, where's the kettle?
    -And where is the diode ?!
    laughing
    (A laser is also an EMP.)
    When using the means described in the article, everything will not be so enchanting, without a fire in the house, but the element base of the RE device will turn into micro-kettles. All at once.
  8. ICT
    +2
    10 December 2014 11: 37
    Quote: Fantazer911
    Our specialists, in all likelihood, recorded radio signals that were received on the RQ-170, and tracked changes in the flight path. And then, drowning out the ether, broke the connection between the RQ-170 and the control center. After some time, the previously recorded signal was sent to the RQ-170 and it landed.


    this is nonsense, these actions are not realizable, this is not an auto alarm

    it is impossible to transmit this signal without having exactly the same final equipment and knowledge of encryption codes,

    I’m still a layman in computer control systems
  9. +6
    10 December 2014 12: 13
    This is not according to the rules - to cut down electronics, without it NATO members cannot fight. And their president will not be able to ensure the security of his troops, just as Obama could not "ensure the security" of his occupying army in Afghanistan.
  10. -1
    10 December 2014 13: 31
    Extremely useful things (however, like all armaments, with the possible exception of two vessels, whose history is already in its teeth, and wheel tanks).
  11. +2
    10 December 2014 14: 06
    Thank you! Very interesting stuff.
  12. +3
    10 December 2014 15: 41
    I would like to clarify with an unnamed expert how EMR penetrates through screens, say a Faraday cage? What about the lead underpants of those who sit in the Knapsack? And who finally gave that name to a wagon-sized complex?


    I believe, Professor, you do not take into account the frequency and slew rate. As you rightly noted, high-frequency high-power currents propagate, for example, in an ionized layer of air adjacent to the surface of an object. Even in dielectric. Even along a broken chain. You don’t think that standard military models, on which all this machinery is tested now, are not protected from electromagnetic radiation?
    Again, the rate of rise of the signal is such that many mechanical fuses simply do not have time to trip.
  13. +3
    10 December 2014 16: 59
    Quote: Hammer 75
    In fact, an emergency landing of an unmanned aircraft (the control channel was disconnected) took place, only the landing was not quite smooth, he planned uncontrollably from a height of about 500 meters and an uncontrolled flight lasted 40 minutes! But the result is a landing !!! Therefore, save rudeness for other cases!
    Your US ally must be destroyed !!! soldier

    In fact, Israel is not just an ally of the United States, but its apocalyptic brainchild, which everyone will be able to verify in the coming years. Great Britain gave birth to the USA, the USA gave birth to Israel, Israel will give birth to hell on earth. All these are the heads of one beast ...
  14. +1
    10 December 2014 17: 01
    Quote: TIT
    but as mentioned above, the principle of electromagnetic radiation is practically realized only with an atomic or neutron bomb

    all others just have the principle of a microwave, concentrated on some direction and frequencies


    I didn’t quite grasp the essence, but even if you simply hammer into the search for "electromagnetic weapons", you can find many interesting things.

    As for the "Autobaza", those who can read will read:
    The ground complex of executive electronic intelligence (IRTR) 1L222 "Avtobaza" is used as part of a mobile electronic jamming complex.

    It is designed for reconnaissance of impulse airborne side-looking radars (BO), air-to-ground weapons control radars (AO), low-altitude flight support radars (OPMV) and transmission of the following information to the automated company command post of the APUR:

    - angular coordinates (azimuth, elevation);
    - radar class (UO, BO, OPMV);
    - number of the private range of operation according to the lettering of the jamming stations SPN-2, SPN-4.

    The IRTR complex includes a hardware machine on the URAL-43203 car chassis and a power plant on the KamAZ-4310 car chassis.

    The IRTR complex operates in an automatic mode, performing a passive search for radiating targets with uniform circular rotation of the antenna system, is broadband and searchless in frequency. The entire operating frequency range is overlapped by three subbands A, B and C in accordance with the operating frequency ranges of the interference stations SPN-2 and SPN-4.

    Radar emitting radars are detected simultaneously in all subbands. The determination of the angular coordinates, parameters and class of the radar is carried out by a packet of signals received during the observation of the target (15 ms at an antenna rotation speed of 12 rpm and 30 ms at 6 rpm).
    The processed information is transmitted to the command and control station.
  15. +3
    10 December 2014 17: 11
    Yes, still, I do not want to offend anyone, but for most people, current and voltage are one and the same thing, so sometimes such a mess turns out, mom don’t grieve ...
  16. +1
    10 December 2014 19: 38
    EW is the future of the armed forces, which sends to the past :-), and in combination with interference and to the heap with such a range completely kapets. Microcurrents can burn everything, do not forget that any electrical network has an input and an output, and a microcurrent affects the entire circuit at once, this is not a socket with a fuse for you. Well, I would look at a drone with an instantly deployable Faraday cage (enough for blockbusters to eat)
    1. volgro
      0
      10 December 2014 21: 53
      "Electronic warfare is the future of the armed forces, which sends it into the past :-)" It would be better to let the cavalry after the EMP, they will chop everyone into cabbage, and even revive the armored train for a couple. And in hand-to-hand combat the Russians cannot be won. laughing
  17. volgro
    0
    10 December 2014 21: 46
    EMO can be not only in the form of missiles but also mines, for example, of different bookmarks. Enemy tanks went on the attack, and there their masked bookmark was waiting ...
  18. +1
    10 December 2014 22: 42
    Quote: volgro
    Enemy tanks went on the attack, and there their masked bookmark is waiting

    That's just the tank in this case will be the most tenacious if the input circuits of its equipment are prepared for such a surprise. An appropriate architecture can protect input circuits from EMP as well. Probably heard about zener diodes who know how to change their resistance in an avalanche manner. The question is that without a reliable screen, there is no point in such protection. The efficiency of the Faraday cage about which the professor wrote depends on such an interesting factor as the thickness of the material from which it is made.
    Quote: Voevoda2682
    EW is the future of the armed forces, which sends the past

    not everyone will go back in time, but most are for sure.
    1. abundant
      -1
      10 December 2014 22: 59
      kakraz tanks EMI finally do not care.
  19. -1
    10 December 2014 22: 48
    Krasukha-4 is what makes many modern developments of amers useless both in aircraft construction and in shipbuilding, etc. ... by the way, a cunning system "EW KHIBINA complex" is also installed on our aircraft ... precisely because of this complex, the Russian su-24 has flown over the destroyer of the American "Donald Cook" 12 times! At the same time, it completely blinded and deafened all countermeasures and detection systems at the destroyer by this very Khibiny. After that, 27 people of the destroyer's crew wrote a statement about being written off ashore with the wording - "we do not want risk your life " good hi
    1. abundant
      +2
      10 December 2014 22: 57
      how people do not get tired to post this duck ...
  20. 0
    11 December 2014 08: 41
    Quote: professor
    Quote: Fantazer911
    Meanwhile .., in 2011. in Iran was planted on the ground

    Money for the fish again? Well, how many of these fables can you? He fell, fell stupidly. I no longer intend to post a photo of how he was "planted".


    Russian "Avtobaza" wiped its nose on the Sentinel RQ-170 drone.

    "Autobase" PASSIVE. Passive, you see.


    Dear, you are probably a dissident once you say such things, did you personally attend when the drone fell? YOU SOMETIMES YOU SUCH A SUCH IN YOUR YOUNGER YEARS YOU PRAISED 53 EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCE IN LIFE THAT SOMETIMES KNOW YOU SORRY AN APPLICABILITY FOR DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, FIND OUT OTHER AND RECEIVE.
  21. mehmeh
    0
    13 December 2014 18: 06
    I read about the mini anti-tank and grenades for RPG 7 grenade launchers active tank protection PNV displays but has long been 95 g
  22. 0
    25 November 2015 15: 57
    Quote: Hammer 75
    In fact, an emergency landing of an unmanned aircraft (the control channel was disconnected) took place, only the landing was not quite smooth, he planned uncontrollably from a height of about 500 meters and an uncontrolled flight lasted 40 minutes! But the result is a landing !!! Therefore, save rudeness for other cases!
    Your US ally must be destroyed !!! soldier

    Yes sir!
  23. 0
    25 November 2015 16: 13
    Quote: stroitel
    Quote: Tatar-in
    It all comes down to propagating the Israeli achievements of the military-industrial complex.

    It would be strange if the professor promoted the achievements of the Russian military-industrial complex (each sandpiper praises his own swamp). From "tricky" questions, the discussion of the article becomes more interesting ..... sometimes you learn more from the comments than from the article itself. Reading answers to "tricky" questions is much more interesting than reading comments like the slogans "glory to the KPSS".

    Really. The professor encourages argumentation and in-depth immersion in the material :)

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