Slaves are mute ...

Slaves are mute ...High-profile cases quite often shake the current Russian army. This can be due to corruption scandals, hazing, desertion or evasion of conscripts from serving conscription. And here is a new round of the so-called military affair, which could simply be lost among folders with similar cases, if not for its unexpected continuation.


Recall that more than 10 years ago, one of the servicemen, who was serving in the Saratov region, received the opportunity to visit relatives. However, the soldiers did not return to their military unit. For obvious reasons, the command declared the conscript on the wanted list, announcing the fact of desertion. For a number of years, no trace of Andrei Popov, namely the name of the soldier, was found. Relatives of the soldier constantly received angry letters from the military unit where Andrei was serving, demanding that they stop covering him and extradite him to justice. The relatives only made a helpless gesture and declared that they, too, would like to know where Andrei Popov was missing. It came to the point that a letter came to the soldier’s home with information about the discovery of the corpse of Citizen Popov, which is allegedly confirmed by the examination. After this, parents stopped waiting for their son to go home.

And so the same continuation stories: in mid-August, 2011, Andrei Popov, suddenly appears at home in the city of Yershov, Saratov Region, and announces that all this time he was in Dagestan as a real slave. At the same time, the appearance of Andrei frightened even his relatives: not the smiling boy, whom they remember, but the exhausted and aged man returned to them. Numerous scars on his face, lack of teeth and thinness emphasized that all this time the young man lived in conditions far from normal.

However, neither the words of Andrei Popov nor his appearance prevented the local prosecutor's office from imprisoning the fighter who had appeared. Legally, it was absolutely justified, because Andrei all this time was listed as deserters, but from the point of view of humanity, it looks more like the Middle Ages, which suddenly manifested itself in our days. Under pressure from the public, Andrei Popov decided to release from custody and send "to serve" in the local military unit. And despite the fact that the age of the soldier has already managed to go beyond the draft. Today, Andrei is already 30 years old! But even such a humiliating situation does not upset Andrew. According to him, being in parts is a real paradise in comparison with what he had to endure in Dagestan slavery. He says that during 10 years he was used as a worker of one of the brick factories of the Republic. At the same time, he was not given any remuneration for his work, he had to work 14 hours a day, and sleep on the concrete floor, on which dirty rags were drafted. Andrei declares that he himself cannot say exactly how he ended up in Dagestan. The last thing he remembers, before he got to the brick factory, was a trip with a group of fellow travelers in the direction of the military unit after visiting the house. If he is telling the truth, then we can assume that these companions, having given the young man some potion, delivered him to Dagestan and handed him over to the immediate "slave owners."

The situation with Andrei Popov could be called a case of blatant bureaucracy and the irresponsibility of military officials and prosecutors. To justify themselves, they say that they simply do not have the right to stop a criminal case instituted against a young man. Indeed, in recent years there have been too many so-called fictitious disappearances of soldiers. Many conscripts create a whole story for themselves so that after the unauthorized abandonment of a part they can be presented as an alibi. It got to the point that many soldiers allegedly fell into captivity, from which they miraculously fled a few years later. However, many such cases are real criminal cases.

In the case of Andrei Popov there is a big check of the collected materials. Investigators are trying to establish the plant, which contained Andrew as a slave. There is an active search for the very same fellow travelers Andrei who could have brought him there, and an examination of the state of health of the young man is underway.

But with all due respect to the law, you never cease to be surprised how “crooked” our legislation is. Often, officials say that at one time the Stalinist methods led to the fact that the Red Army soldiers returning from captivity went straight to the Soviet camps. Like, well, that with Stalinism is finished completely and irrevocably. And here is a vivid episode, which, in principle, is no different from a post-war situation. A man who has spent a third of his life in real slavery, is already taking “his own” behind bars. What is this if not the reincarnation of "Stalin's foundations" in the 21st century? And even the phrase “trust, but verify!” Looks in this case truly inhuman.


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  1. oper66
    oper66 29 August 2011 08: 21 New
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    when showing this android on television all the time, the girl accompanies the girl in a very interesting position for about 6-7 months while they hug and kiss, it’s not her sister who kisses, was she also enslaved to him or was he still on vacation?
    1. Skills 29 August 2011 08: 45 New
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      When I watched the news release on TV, they said it was his sister.
    2. SAVA
      SAVA 31 August 2011 03: 40 New
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      oper66, according to the comments it seems that the looks at us coincide in the same way it hurts the soul for the former USSR, but this koment has shown our difference, you are not the only one who is somewhat suspicious. . A PREGNANT WOMAN WHICH LOVES HIS BROTHER IS WELCOME TO YOUR (I WILL SAY VERY, VERY, VERY SOFT) DEFAMENT COMMENTS ???????? And YOU HAVE RECEIVED YOUR WOUNDS EXACTLY FOR PROTECTING THESE PEOPLE! WHAT IS THIS SITE JUST FOR THE INSURANCE OF PREGNANT WOMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????????????? ??????
      1. oper66
        oper66 3 September 2011 13: 03 New
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        SAVA I did not insult her, you misunderstood me, I asked who she was because I saw the story briefly
        1. SAVA
          SAVA 3 September 2011 15: 34 New
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          Then let us pray that the cynicism of the bodies involved in this matter does not go beyond the reasonable limits, so that the sister does not worry about her brother again, although the bestiality that they have already shown deserves public condemnation.
    3. oper66
      oper66 18 November 2011 22: 14 New
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      ye, that’s the truth - the deserter, and then the poor one he defended in life and shit, well, where are you defenders and then 10 years in slavery Ch.M.O. he and the traitor, and he wanted to legalize himself in prison for desertion now, let him fuck for real, and the mowers didn’t come to the military registration and enlistment office in wartime = well, he didn’t rub it and public possession
  2. voin-xnumx
    voin-xnumx 29 August 2011 11: 31 New
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    The law, as it were, drew where it turned and left. Humanly, sorry. But I do not believe that our almighty bodies do not know about these famous brickworks and who works for them. After all, people go missing in thousands and not only in the army but also in civilian life.
  3. solodova 29 August 2011 11: 40 New
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    Here it would be necessary to conduct an investigation and punish the guilty as required honestly, and they tyrannize the guy ... They survived, they sell us into slavery, and who?
    Moreover, we can substitute anyone into slavery if a person is not socially protected. And not only in Dagestan, in any part of Russia. In another country, such a noise would have risen, the same pendosia for their rights is a mountain.
  4. DAGESTAN333 29 August 2011 12: 03 New
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    Let them first find out whether it is true that it says, and what kind of plant it belongs to, so that the whole country and especially Dagestanis know bastards ...
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 August 2011 12: 32 New
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      dag completely agree with you something I don’t believe in his fairy tale, I would understand if somewhere in the mountains in Botlikh or Chechnya itumka or aslambek-sharipovo indicated yes there is a mountain forest and here in Budenovsk I do not believe that for 10 years he did not know where it is the plant and forgotten the way back, oh, I don’t believe I had to get out of captivity in the Czech Republic, so the guys all knew where they were and who pointed them out and here innocence - my opinion is a deserter under the guise of journalists
      1. oper66
        oper66 29 August 2011 13: 08 New
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        minus and you yourself go to emotions pity and sympathy and I write that if he is lying with the aim of covering up his act, therefore, without understanding it, we begin to determine innocence and where you can’t get the information confirming his words and he’s like an assistant professor from good luck I remember here I do not remember. here are the results of the investigation, let's see who is right
        1. solodova 29 August 2011 13: 15 New
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          I didn’t minus, but I will answer. I know the case when in the Central Organ the gypsy baron kept a man as a slave. Then he disappeared. Rumor has it that they beat him hard, maybe overdo it. The police arrived, and left. But there is no man. Homeless, like, an alcoholic, and yet a man.
          And the result should, of course, be. But only thorough and unbiased. If he really lied, not only as a deserter, but also for libel. And if not ... severely punish those responsible.
          1. Superduck
            Superduck 29 August 2011 13: 30 New
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            My friend has a small factory, and so he has a watchman, about 40 years old, maybe a little less, he was a very good cabinet maker himself, but he can’t work by profession, his hands don’t listen because of drunkenness. Sometimes he gets a little money for grub, 200 grams, and more often they feed him like a dog with food, people bring him home. A man who has descended into the trash is shorter. In the spring he was found by a woman with whom he had an affair 15 years ago, they even wanted to get married, but there they did not grow together. In short, this woman is not very shabby herself, as for her age and indeed adequate in appearance. She divorced a year ago and her husband dumped her somewhere to a young woman, her house remained large, household, child. I invited him to go to her place, start a new life, and my sidekick and I persuaded him to go, he would die so black, give 2 hryvnias (10 rubles of the Russian Federation) for food, but he manages to get away with them! To all this, Valerych said something like: I have work here, and there I will be in the floods, nobody ...
            They persuaded a month, and his lady huddled as best she could, the sidekick offered him money to be encoded or filed, “no” and that’s all. So he lives in a shift. This is what I am for, there are people who themselves are looking for slavery and they feel good there, you don’t need to think, there’s zero responsibility.
            1. solodova 29 August 2011 13: 46 New
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              It’s for sure, recently they also tried to pull one out by all means, the one with the documents, the man himself goes into slavery, then he starts to call everyone - save! They pulled it out several times, there is no more patience, well, although if necessary, we will help again.
              Nevertheless, slavery is a problem requiring solution. Well, if our women were offered to officially buy and sell (I'm talking about this fool from Kuwait), we need to do something ...
              1. Superduck
                Superduck 29 August 2011 14: 02 New
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                She thinks that she wanted to legalize the existing situation in their country, unfortunately. the whole near and middle east is filled with our compatriots in the role of concubines. I know many women who would love to go to concubines to provide them with decent conditions.
                1. solodova 29 August 2011 15: 03 New
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                  And this is very embarrassing. But the very idea of ​​buying implies that a person has been equated with a thing, an animal, at worst. A concubine, a lover, basically a pun, but if someone buys, then someone sells. Can you imagine how many girls from families will be stolen? After all, they will give more for virgins. and didn’t they offer the English women, the French? ... It's like with organ trading. Just get started, the meat grinder will start ...
                  1. Superduck
                    Superduck 29 August 2011 15: 39 New
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                    I agree with you. Legalization of demand gives rise to legalization of supply. I volunteer to organize festivals for orphanages. Sometimes I talk with children a lot, so while they are up to grade 4, they look like kittens, look at you as something big and shining, but then the girls are those from grade 5 to grade 8, in short, if you touch it, they cringe reflexively and start to look at you in dismay. And I'm sorry to paw them, you touch your hand there or your shoulder. And every time you think - what is hidden behind this frightened look. So these are children from family-type orphanages and educators like you look, they are quite normal. So I am for the fact that they like nits are first of all driven by cars to sell.
                    1. solodova 29 August 2011 15: 55 New
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                      Yes, there will be no one to intervene for them ... one time the girls were kidnapped in the city ... and in broad daylight, in the center. A car pulls up ... shove and remember what they called ... It's scary to even imagine where they are now ...
                      These perverts, do not consider it extremism - it would be necessary to the wall, because of which girls and boys with a crippled psyche then live ...
  5. dmb
    dmb 29 August 2011 13: 24 New
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    Not knowing the materials of the case, one should not brand either Popov, or even less so prosecutors and investigators, as a shame. In practice, I had to deal with such cases, and if Popov disappeared, returning from vacation, then most likely he is telling the truth. However, this must be established. And before this is established, he is accused in accordance with the law, and there’s nothing to kiss the public about.
    1. solodova 29 August 2011 13: 29 New
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      The matter is still crude, there really is nothing to judge. But such a question of the public is better to keep in mind.
    2. oper66
      oper66 30 August 2011 00: 11 New
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      here we will wait for the results of the investigation and everything will become clear I would like everything to be honest
      1. oper66
        oper66 11 March 2012 18: 47 New
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        special charge asks for 4 years in a colony for Private Popov
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        Popov, drafted from the city of Ershov in the Saratov region and missing during military service in 2000, returned home in August 2011, saying that he was in slavery in Dagestan, where he worked at one of the local factories. Newspaper.Ru
        17:36

        According to the prosecutor, the defendant himself denied his initial testimony that he had been detained by force at factories in Dagestan. At the same time, the prosecution emphasized the public danger of desertion, which affects the country's defense. Echo of Moscow
        17:30

        The state prosecutor in the case of Private Andrei Popov, accused of desertion, during the debate of the parties on Sunday asked the court to sentence the defendant to four years in prison, a RIA Novosti correspondent reports from the hall of the Saratov Garrison Military Court. RIA News
        17:19
        During a court hearing on January 20, Popov stated that he was beaten at brick factories in Dagesta


        Yes !!!! Well, the fighters for the deserters were waiting for the results - and I said in my very first comment on this article that he was a deserter since they minus
  6. oper66
    oper66 29 August 2011 14: 55 New
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    I had an incident during 1984, one of my conscription decided to go to a military school in armavir closer to home, well, he was sent but there is no knowledge from 33333 and he didn’t come from the army and didn’t come back to the unit a year later rested as our fellow countrymen explained to us, he was going to go on a walk later and delayed the return, then they scared him 6 years ago, but it’s a shame, but at the present time 10 years ago the soldiers didn’t even have a military ticket with them so they didn’t run away, and it seems to me that the defector is gentle vomited for 10 years without documents and decided to legalize and blame everything on the evil highlanders but doesn’t remember and doesn’t know him. He looks hides into the camera. He doesn’t look ashamed. star in a human rights firmament
    1. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 29 August 2011 15: 23 New
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      Armavir was no longer knowledge, but health was needed. I know one friend, out of four entrance exams - I passed three by 2, but then there was a deficit of SHO, and they took him.
      1. oper66
        oper66 29 August 2011 15: 45 New
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        Well, I didn’t want any knowledge of this technology.
        1. svvaulsh
          svvaulsh 29 August 2011 15: 53 New
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          There was a flight in Armavir, now the training regiment of the Krasnodar f-la VVA
          1. oper66
            oper66 29 August 2011 16: 01 New
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            I live in the Kuban and I know that there thanks for the information
  7. zczczc
    zczczc 29 August 2011 16: 35 New
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    I don’t understand the problem - they got on a plane, then in an UAZ, found a plant, surrounded and figured out who worked there, on what conditions - true or not. You can be smarter - they found a factory, then secretly found its management, detained it, then to the factory ... everything is solved.

    What surprises me is if this is true, then who will they find there now? Why was the trumpet all over the country?
    1. Dvormen
      Dvormen 29 August 2011 17: 12 New
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      It’s possible to find the guilty, but, what’s next ... Yesterday it was reported on TV that the bodies went on the trail of the killer Colonel Budanov relatively quickly, it just took time to conduct operational measures to LURE the performer from the territory of the Caucasus. Consequently, the federal government was unable to impose sanctions on the spot. Maybe I'm wrong about something ...
      1. Superduck
        Superduck 29 August 2011 18: 01 New
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        Or is he a Georgian?
        1. Dvormen
          Dvormen 30 August 2011 05: 33 New
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          No, SuperDuck, a representative of Dagestan, was located either in Chechnya or in Dagestan, in general, on the territory of the Russian Federation.
      2. oper66
        oper66 29 August 2011 18: 15 New
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        believe me there, for almost two years there I shook off on business trips at the beginning of 2 companies, then there was order, and now all the more so there is a mine-disruptive war or at night they fire at it trifles
    2. Dovmont
      Dovmont 30 August 2011 17: 21 New
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      Yes, no one seriously in Moscow is not going to deal with the problem of slavery in the Caucasus. Therefore, they announced to the public that the local nukers would bring about the appearance of order. Now the center is pursuing a policy of cajoling and appeasing the Muslims of the Caucasus. Moscow is not worth waiting for action.
  8. Greyfox 29 August 2011 19: 55 New
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    Oper66, listen, you’re reading, it’s a mortal torment. Don’t be disgraced, because it’s not a shkolota who sits on the forum with whom you can text on the “Albanian.” Remember literacy and punctuation marks,
    By the way, in Soviet times in Armavir only “blacks” were taught (to say foreigners from all sorts of Africa and Antarctica). Therefore, I can’t imagine how your “deserter” was sent there?
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 August 2011 20: 17 New
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      there was an examination passed collecting all incoming conscripts I remember what he wanted for a helicopter technique your wishes I will take into account I see you respect the syntax
  9. Greyfox 29 August 2011 21: 23 New
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    Not so much syntax as "great and mighty."
    1. oper66
      oper66 29 August 2011 21: 42 New
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      I’m just at work, I’ll read the comments while there’s a free minute, I’m trying to score a new one.
  10. Max79 29 August 2011 23: 48 New
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    When I served (this is 13 years ago), we had a capter at a battalion commander at all in the country. Do you understand the flowers, tomatoes, cucumbers. My friends on the construction site worked with the Armenians and lived there. What does this say? ....
    There everyone had x ... your military knowledge, your free work was needed there now too. It still infuriates me in our stupid army. But I still have to serve. Will Perdyukov pull up on you on the horizontal bars? smile
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 30 August 2011 00: 17 New
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      For the use of soldiers on personal construction sites, cones to the wall would ...
      1. voin-xnumx
        voin-xnumx 30 August 2011 00: 26 New
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        Was recently in Vyborg in the castle preparing for the closing of the film festival "Window to Europe". So they caught up with the sailors to do the draft work such as prisini, let me go to x ... do not bother. It’s very unpleasant to watch from the side, especially when they are commanded (screaming) by people who have nothing to do with the army and navy.
        1. oper66
          oper66 30 August 2011 00: 46 New
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          our army and navy are led by a minister who has no relation to the army at all, it seems he didn’t even serve in it urgently
  11. AleksUkr 30 August 2011 19: 21 New
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    Something your reasoning does not correspond to the topic covered. I am sure that thanks to the connivance of our valiant police, sorry police, all this exists. The new look of the army also did not eradicate the use of soldiers for other purposes, but Max79 isn’t for you, and you like to call the army stupid. If the leader, then this does not mean that everything is there. And your service is not entirely clear to me. Usually, real former servicemen speak very well of military service, however difficult it may be. First of all, he respects himself, the staff where he served, friends and comrades. In the “classmates”, more than a dozen of my former soldiers came to me, who enthusiastically recall our joint service, funny episodes, how they overcame difficulties together, how they became real soldiers. Many after urgent went to military schools, rose to high ranks and never cry, as some do not call their own defenders. I would not want to sit with you in the same trench. Think about why.
    1. oper66
      oper66 31 August 2011 10: 29 New
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      AleksUkr I agree with you
  12. solodova 21 September 2011 17: 02 New
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    If anyone is interested, there is a sequel. Popov, along with investigators, visited three factories: under the city of Caspian, between Makhachkala and the Caspian, as well as in Krasnoarmeysk (a suburb of the capital of Dagestan). Staying in the last two factories, the soldier said that he remembers these places and was here. On one of them, according to his own statements, he spent about 15 days, on the second - two years.
    At one of the factories, he recognized the foreman and director, who, in turn, confirmed that they remembered Popov, but stated that he simply worked for them and was not kept in slavery. Popov himself says that he did not receive money for work at any of the brick factories. Investigative measures are ongoing.
    On August 17, conscript soldier Andrei Popov from the city of Ershov in the Saratov Region said that he had been in slavery in Dagestan since 2000 and fled from there. Upon returning home, he was detained as a deserter. On the evening of August 25, he was released from the pre-trial detention center. Then, military investigators began checking information about the serviceman kept in slavery at a brick factory in Dagestan, for this it was necessary to bring Popov to Dagestan.
    Investigators of the military prosecutor’s office together with Andrei Popov arrived in Dagestan on September 14. They are accompanied by a lawyer and brother Popov.
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