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French defense minister says Paris may never pass the Mistral to Russia

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The head of the military department of France, Jean-Yves Le Drian, finally made an attempt to call a spade a spade in terms of the situation with helicopter carriers of the Mistral type, built for the Naval fleet Of Russia. Le Drian said that France is closely monitoring the conditions in Ukraine and concludes that Russia may never get the Mistrals. Le Drian made his fabrications on the air of the TV channel http://www.bfmtv.com:
Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.



French defense minister says Paris may never pass the Mistral to Russia


If Le Drian were completely honest with those viewers for whom he spoke his words, he would have to say something like:
Mr. Hollande is subject to the political will of the United States, and therefore France will never transfer helicopter carriers built on a paid contract for Russia to the Russian Navy, thus depriving themselves of the status of a reliable supplier and contractor.

Will Russia get a penalty from the French in the event of filing in court. There is an opinion that arbitration, the independence of which is under a big question, will stand on the side of France (or rather, the United States). In this case, it is necessary to respond asymmetrically - to work actively with those states that have gathered to conclude arms supply contracts with Paris and convince. Recently, more and more information appears that India is going to abandon the purchase of French fighters. But not only India is cooperating with France in terms of military purchases from non-NATO states ... Russia needs to use its chance and “disconnect” Paris and Hollande from contracts with other countries. Moscow has the tools and levers - first of all, diplomacy.
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  1. Funnels
    Funnels 5 December 2014 13: 28
    56
    Yes, shove them already in your w .., but poop home.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 5 December 2014 13: 30
      14
      Yes, you do not say, but do it, do not give it, and it’s the end.
      1. Момент
        Момент 5 December 2014 13: 36
        +8
        Well, at least we’ve decided, otherwise we’ve arranged behind-the-scenes games. All of Russia needs to return money and build ships better than the Mistral
        1. comprochikos
          comprochikos 5 December 2014 13: 43
          +4
          Yes, they themselves have already misraised the drum. The main thing now is not to lose money. And then this arbitration, pocket ball of the USA, will start to stir up trouble.
          1. Alekseev
            Alekseev 5 December 2014 13: 52
            +7
            Quote: comprochikos
            . And then this arbitration, pocket ball of the USA, will start to stir up trouble.

            That's for sure!
            Surely there are debts to the French, they must be frozen. So far, they won’t pay for Mistral. wink
            And, in general, it is necessary to curtail our participation in this globalization under the auspices of the West. Gently but inexorably make a U-turn.
            1. Tartar
              Tartar 5 December 2014 15: 00
              10
              How much can you turn to the west, then to the east. We need to become strong ourselves, to live with our own heads. Well, partnerships with the whole world must be maintained.
              1. Alekseev
                Alekseev 5 December 2014 15: 19
                +1
                Quote: TarTar
                partnerships with the whole world need to be maintained.

                I want it myself, yes! yes
                Do not give enemies with all the light.
                After all, partnerships involve the transfer of what was paid for under the contract on time, they also suggest that you can hope for an international court (not like in the Yukos case and in the cases of the former Yugoslavia), they assume that the guarantors of the Yanukovych agreements in the maydaunas did not sign checkmarks, and for guarantees that the independence of Kosovo and Crimea are no different from the point of view of international law, as well as the sovereignty of Ukraine and Yugoslavia or Libya, or Syria with Iraq, etc.
              2. ATATA
                ATATA 5 December 2014 19: 20
                0
                Quote: TarTar
                How much can you turn to the west, then to the east. We need to become strong ourselves, to live with our own heads.

                Golden words! drinks good
          2. Bombardier
            Bombardier 5 December 2014 13: 54
            +6
            MOSCOW, December 5 - RIA Novosti. Russia will be satisfied in both cases: if France hands over the Mistral helicopter carriers to it or if it reimburses the costs, but a decision must be made, said Russian Ambassador to France Alexander Orlov on the air of the French radio station Europe 1.
            Mistral-class landing ship Vladivostok at the docks of the French company SNX France

            "If these ships are handed over, we will be happy. If they are not handed over, but the costs are reimbursed, we will also be satisfied. We placed an order, paid and now we are waiting," said Alexander Orlov.
            According to him, the delivery time for the ships has not yet gone beyond the limits specified in the contract, so Russia is still waiting. "Our position is very calm and unperturbed," the Russian ambassador said. But, according to him, "France must make a decision now."


            RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20141205/1036747708.html#ixzz3L1JVJBBK
            1. kuz363
              kuz363 5 December 2014 15: 44
              -1
              Dreaming is not harmful
          3. jktu66
            jktu66 5 December 2014 14: 09
            +1
            The main thing now is not to lose money
            Money will not be returned, Obama will prohibit
          4. 1812 1945
            1812 1945 5 December 2014 14: 27
            +2
            Quote: comprochikos
            Yes, they themselves have already misraised the drum. The main thing now is not to lose money. And then this arbitration, pocket ball of the USA, will start to stir up trouble.

            These floating mass graves will come in handy for the former France itself - the country of the Last World (which refers to all the shamefully omitted ami). It is necessary to take from them in full, glorifying as loudly as scammers. It is necessary by any means to destroy their agreements with the BRICS countries and beyond.
          5. DEfindER
            DEfindER 5 December 2014 14: 45
            +2
            Quote: comprochikos
            The main thing now is not to lose money.

            I'm afraid that they are unlikely to return the money. At first, Misralay was glad that he wouldn’t have to make the whole infrastructure for them more expensive than the ships themselves, and become dependent on the service of NATO. And then it became clear that it was unlikely that it would be possible to return the invested .. For anyone they say: what kind of money are you, we will soon begin to expropriate all your accounts, (i.e. stupidly rob like Gaddafi at one time)
            1. kuz363
              kuz363 5 December 2014 15: 52
              +1
              And it will be so. The Yukos court decided to pay $ 50 billion to the former owners until mid-January, and then it will be possible to seize the property of Russia, to sell and give it to these owners. That is, execute the decision of the international court. Here are the Mistral and the first will go on account of payment. They do not need to be searched. The Chinese will buy them at half price or a third with pleasure. Then it comes to the rest of overseas property and deposits. Also cover the money of Russia, which lie abroad. The only subtlety is that the ships have not been handed over to Russia and, it seems, are not yet its property. But Western lawyers ate the dog and find a way out quickly.
              1. Catch_veter
                Catch_veter 5 December 2014 16: 35
                0
                Rogozin said that the filling is ours ... the paddlers only made the body.
              2. dali
                dali 5 December 2014 23: 11
                0
                Wait and see ... for now

                http://tass.ru/politika/1622234

                Russia has challenged the decision of the Hague court in the Yukos case. The head of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation Alexander Konovalov told TASS about it. ... He noted that the decision was contested in full, and "in what part the court will meet halfway and whether it will meet halfway, it is a question."

                It is clear that it will not work ... but then this is another nail in the lid of the coffin, in which Europe put itself.
              3. The comment was deleted.
              4. Aleksander
                Aleksander 5 December 2014 23: 34
                0
                Quote: kuz363
                Yukos court decides to pay $ 50 billion to former owners


                Its jurisdiction is not recognized by Russia.
              5. DEfindER
                DEfindER 8 December 2014 13: 35
                0
                Quote: kuz363
                And it will be so. The Yukos court decided to pay $ 50 billion to the former owners until mid-January, and then it will be possible to seize the property of Russia

                The coolest thing is that when they take away property worth 50 billion, their appetite will only grow and they will think of something else to continue to rob us .. In such situations, we will have to arrest the property of the West in Russia to compensate for the losses, and this is again the Iron Curtain .. well, we don’t get used to it, we will survive, but to them I think it will only get worse, especially Europe ..
            2. Victorio
              Victorio 5 December 2014 20: 50
              0
              the money received may be returned, but the forfeit is highly doubtful
      2. bulvas
        bulvas 5 December 2014 14: 13
        12
        Sometimes it seems that Russia is doing everything to show the true face of the acting characters:

        USA - No comments
        Ukraine - now the whole world will see what kind of gift it is and what it is "to cue and tick" or " I won’t take away all the apples, but I’m biting!"
        Germany - Revanchist gut climbed out
        France - litter, which has always been
        Other - mooing herd


    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 5 December 2014 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: Funnels
      It is believed that arbitration, whose independence is a big question

      I understand that WE-RUSSIA MONEY FOR BUILT "Mistali", not when we will not receive ...

      all hope for the Indians ..... and others, countries, not "MEMBERS" of NATO .....
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 5 December 2014 13: 44
        +4
        Quote: cosmos111
        Quote: Funnels
        It is believed that arbitration, whose independence is a big question

        I understand that WE-RUSSIA MONEY FOR BUILT "Mistali", not when we will not receive ...

        all hope for the Indians ..... and others, countries, not "MEMBERS" of NATO .....


        Hindus can try and conclude, but the question is whether Paris can fulfill them
        So we shaved Iran with the S-300V in dreams, we all worked together and they work, but a couple of contracts we crawled out because of this. The Indians chose rafal and for this, as it was written in one article from the Indian author
        the Indians said that the moment would win, but they decided to take Rafal
        1. dali
          dali 5 December 2014 23: 22
          0
          If the Hindus refuse Rafaley ... yes it’s clear, and so who needs it and what needs to be done. Only Hindus, they are Hindus - they can negotiate on the American ones.

          Then amerikozy France already have twice black! laughing and Hindus in the end, too ...
      2. Dreamscripter
        Dreamscripter 5 December 2014 13: 44
        +1
        In such cases, the money of French residents located in Russia is nationalized.
      3. Samaritan
        Samaritan 5 December 2014 13: 47
        +3
        We are changing to Renault and another 6000 companies operating in Russia ...
        It seems that all these applicants are breaking the ground in the hope of an answer from Russia in order to prepare, but we are silent)) the naughty girls)))
      4. jayich
        jayich 5 December 2014 13: 49
        0
        We will not try to sue our money in court first, there you’ll look and Sevastopol will be completed, both ships will be ready for Saint Nazar Peter the Great will come with the company, the teams will warm up the diesel engine on the mistral roads and two of our new boats will fly the Andreevsky flag and go under our escort home...
        This is of course a joke but ...
        They will be prevented from undermining their aircraft carrier (to carry out the operation by a division of underwater swimmers, as the Italians sank Novorossiysk at one time) and let the crocodiles shed their tears, it would be time to instill in the whole world that we now always return for our grandmothers and property (I would very much like to believe in this). And then let poor little Oland go cry to the Americans give money for a new aircraft carrier.
        And if without jokes to freeze for the sum of the contract and forfeit property, for example, the French company Total.
        1. kuz363
          kuz363 5 December 2014 15: 58
          +4
          And if without jokes to freeze for the amount of the contract and forfeit property for example the French company Total

          Bad idea. This directly negatively affects the oil business of Russia, which means the budget and life of the country. Those. of the people.
    3. predator.3
      predator.3 5 December 2014 13: 34
      +3
      Quote: Funnels
      Yes, shove them already in your w .., but poop home.

      That's it, return the prepayment with a penalty! And yeah ... at least where! Sell ​​the Khokhlov if they don’t drown (our horseradish will become one)! lol even in kindergarten, they don’t behave like that!
    4. sever.56
      sever.56 5 December 2014 13: 37
      +6
      Well, finally the French courtesans were born. We will be able to build ships that are really needed for our fleet for the penalty. Along the way, we need to work with India, and convince that our MiGs and Su are better and cheaper than the Rafale !!!
      1. Penelope
        Penelope 5 December 2014 13: 39
        +1
        We are waiting for an official refusal, but without it it is impossible.
    5. wolf7
      wolf7 5 December 2014 13: 47
      +2
      Well, no, the descendants of Robespierre can not be let down. Or a refund, or ships. They don’t want to give either this or that - the complete nationalization of their assets in Russia and the luring of potential buyers of weapons from France to us, so let them switch to feeding on frogs, there’s not enough money for another, because there are too many migrants with Arab countries and everyone wants not to work, but to receive good benefits and other benefits.
      1. nahalenok911
        nahalenok911 5 December 2014 17: 38
        0
        Quote: wolf7
        even if they switch to frog food, there’s not enough money for another.

        They just won't have enough for a frog. And then they will remember for their "jamon" ... And they will whine, like "our" Ksyusha.
    6. Mahmut
      Mahmut 5 December 2014 14: 03
      0
      French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian finally made an attempt to call a spade a spade

      Of course, he made an attempt to call things by their proper names. But the attempt was unsuccessful. And it would seem, what is easier to say "Yes" or "No"
      1. Deniska
        Deniska 5 December 2014 14: 05
        +7
        The true course of France ....
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 5 December 2014 14: 09
          +1
          Is this like blackmail, or am I thinking wrong?
          1. predator.3
            predator.3 5 December 2014 14: 26
            +2
            Quote: Igor39
            Is this like blackmail, or am I thinking wrong?


            No, it's like the type of girls, "I'm not like that!" , and then after the first glass ... you can't tear it off ... lol
          2. Am
            Am 5 December 2014 15: 50
            +4
            This is like an ordinary kidalovo. We paid money, we have a contract, but we want to give the ships, we want to not give them back. What kind of garbage is this ... then you can say that we don’t like the weather. Where can I read the contract this one? They shout at everyone that Russia has revived, but is gaining power, it’s not visible just ... The same southern stream was built, built, then once! And it is not needed, but let’s go to Turkey, and where is the guarantee that then Turkey also what kind of thread doesn’t throw the garbage? Then they will also say that it turns out we don’t really need it? The languages ​​are beautifully scratched, sometimes it’s disgusting to listen .. And with a strong country, no one would dare to do this (subjective opinion) something is blinking, then Ukrainian ministers are obscene to the president. And what’s the result? They went out there, condemned something, but how it’s not right, but how it’s not diplomatic .. And they don’t care for a long time, then more. And we all mumble, yes mumble .. others watch and draw conclusions. I will never believe that you can’t plug the same Latvia or Lithuania, the more they’re very addicted she’s taking away from us. And only grandmothers are sitting with us, and let them even lay the president, even though they don’t give the ships back. I won’t be surprised if they leave them without money. What kind of interest there would be to pick up what they paid for, and even the feed this ... as they are, sawing off what they will. We will see in general.
    7. Litol
      Litol 5 December 2014 14: 23
      0
      hi Nah. Let it sit stern with stern. But select money for the stern laughing
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    9. Vorlon
      Vorlon 5 December 2014 14: 54
      0
      I agree. But one moment. I would agree with the non-return of feed, but with one condition. Let the feed remain with them, (as the previous commentator said) but well ... across, it means for the future.
    10. theadenter
      theadenter 5 December 2014 15: 52
      -1
      Only it is not clear where we will put the stern ...
    11. Serzh73
      Serzh73 5 December 2014 18: 50
      0
      Yes, you can and with the stern, and because in fact there will be nothing to stick around.
  2. D-Master
    D-Master 5 December 2014 13: 29
    13
    Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.

    Well, finally, this is the first statement of a responsible official. They can and should be used in the COURT. Leave yourself the Mistral, we don’t really need them, return the loot + fines and you can convert them into gambling. They are just missing in Europe
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 5 December 2014 13: 48
      +5
      Quote: D-Master

      Well, finally, this is the first statement of a responsible official. They can and should be used in COURT. Leave yourself the Mistral, we don’t really need them, return the loot + fines and you can convert them into gambling. They are just missing in Europe


      -And who are the judges ?!
      (c) "Hamlet" W. Shakespeare.
      Classic pancake.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 December 2014 13: 49
      +1
      Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.

      The conditions for the transfer may develop, and the transfer will be called: "Dog in the Seine". laughing
    3. Alexei
      Alexei 5 December 2014 13: 51
      0
      Quote: D-Master
      you can convert them into geybodedel
      One of the Mistrals can be proudly called "Blue Olland" - "Blue Olland".
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 5 December 2014 14: 23
        0
        One of the Mistrals can be proudly called "Blue Olland" - "Blue Olland".

        "... she would give, but only mom does not allow ..." In this case, dad. So big, black ... laughing
  3. jaguar
    jaguar 5 December 2014 13: 30
    +2
    Chet it reminds me ..... as if it would give yes mom does not allow !!! request
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 5 December 2014 13: 30
    -1
    Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.


    What are you jerking off, stump dogs ss.t!
    Yes, dance with your minsrali yet!
  5. GeorgeSev85
    GeorgeSev85 5 December 2014 13: 31
    +1
    only heard KVA-KVA-KVA ....

    Pay a forfeit and roll with your Mistals. am
  6. _my opinion
    _my opinion 5 December 2014 13: 32
    +7
    that Russia may never get the Mistral

    Zadolbali already ... well, no so no - drive back the money and scatter ... yes, return the stern !!!
  7. kimanas
    kimanas 5 December 2014 13: 32
    +2
    When, in addition to diplomacy, will an instrument such as the price of gas work?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 December 2014 16: 46
      0
      Quote: kimanas
      When, in addition to diplomacy, will an instrument such as the price of gas work?

      Russia provides only 19% of France's natural gas needs.
  8. kelevra
    kelevra 5 December 2014 13: 32
    +1
    Well, don’t tell me, we’ve lived without Mistral all the time and now we’ll do it, the plots need to think about where to get from 3-5 billion euros to pay us a penalty for non-fulfillment of the contract!
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 5 December 2014 13: 32
    +9
    I don’t know, I don’t know ... France has so many assets in Russia that it would be stupid to risk them in case of a negative arbitration decision against Russia. This is the automotive industry, and the banking sector, and the oil and gas industry and much more. You just have to be an idiot to lose the whole business in Russia due to the amount of forfeit.
    1. corn
      corn 5 December 2014 13: 39
      0
      inkass_98
      Quote: "You just have to be an idiot to lose the whole business in Russia due to the amount of the penalty."
      Instead of "Russia" write "US and EU".
      And second, ours didn’t know that Jews hijacked rocket boats from the French? - This is about contracts with other countries (this is not for you, but for everyone).
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 5 December 2014 13: 47
        +2
        Jews stole boats:
        a) Skopom, the entire order. Now you can only steal Vladik, Sevas only in tow.
        b) A short shoulder - a few hours and they are no longer in the jurisdiction of France, in contrast to the passage through the whole of France from Saint Nazaire or through England along the northern route.
        at) With the approval of the USA.
        1. corn
          corn 5 December 2014 14: 19
          +1
          donavi49
          Quote:
          "Jews stole boats: ..."
          I wondered why the Jews could do this.
          I just can’t guess why, knowing this fact, we are making a deal, and India, for example, will not.
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 5 December 2014 16: 48
          0
          Quote: donavi49
          Now you can only steal Vladik

          Is he as brisk and fast as a boat ??? Oh well ...
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 5 December 2014 13: 43
      +2
      Well, if you anger the black Lord, you can lose the top French banks, the gigantic scandal with which Obama was hushed up in the wake of Holland’s good behavior. It can be inflated and Societe and others will fly - at least oxygen will be cut off for easy money in the USA, plus they will start the information war.

      Therefore, it must be considered there. Nationalization of private companies is also not an easy task. The same Renault in the VAZ is not French but Renault Nissan and is registered in the NETHERLANDS. How are you going to kick him out? So that the Japanese and other market participants do not run out of the country?

      Then there are a bunch of life-complicating procedures, such as a mirror. Unilateral arrest - enterprises in the EU and property associated with the Russian Federation.

      This is all very complicated in general.
      1. corn
        corn 5 December 2014 14: 14
        0
        donavi49
        Quote:
        "It's all very complicated in general."
        For those wishing to seize French property - not difficult.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 5 December 2014 15: 02
          +1
          For those wishing to arrest Russian property, it is also easy to find and arrest. Everyone can play this game and the question is who will suffer the most. Again, the French have a pretty good fit, and at first glance at 100% of the enterprises of the owners of the frogs, in fact they are legally Belgian, Dutch, Hungarian and even Russian.
          1. corn
            corn 5 December 2014 15: 51
            0
            donavi49
            Quote:
            "For those wishing to seize Russian property, it is also easy ..."
            I am not considering idiots who want to arrest Russian property, but I am talking about those who are already going to arrest French property for Mistral.
            You do not understand this?
        2. Botanologist
          Botanologist 5 December 2014 15: 04
          +1
          Quote: corn
          For those wishing to seize French property - not difficult.


          Well, for the guard, it’s not difficult to arrest what you want, the problems will then begin with others. And who will rake them? For anyone, not the goers, they don’t have enough brains. Arrests of our property around the world will go tomorrow - and what shall we do?
          1. corn
            corn 5 December 2014 15: 40
            +1
            Botanologist
            Quote:
            "And who will rake them?"
            Anyone who suggested this on the site and who support it for sure will not laughing
  10. FACKtoREAL
    FACKtoREAL 5 December 2014 13: 32
    +2
    Das ist French
    Oh la la! request
  11. Mantykora
    Mantykora 5 December 2014 13: 33
    14
    So that's great! 3 billion euros forfeit and return the feed. And put the Mistrals in the middle of the Seine in Paris as a monument to French "independence" from the USA!
    1. wolf7
      wolf7 5 December 2014 13: 50
      -1
      And give them the name Hollande and his geisha bully
  12. raid14
    raid14 5 December 2014 13: 34
    +3
    They demand from Russia to bend under the Western world and give up the Mistrals? No, let it be better if he bends under us.
  13. mackonya
    mackonya 5 December 2014 13: 34
    +1
    Well done, the French, for the sake of an approving "nod" are ready to pinch themselves one place. And the money will still have to be returned, I hope with a penalty.
  14. nomad
    nomad 5 December 2014 13: 35
    +5
    Zadornov is right - the mattress covers are stupid. In their place, on the contrary, I would recommend giving the mistrals on the condition that they will be in the Baltic. And I would "milk" the Baltics for rearmament every year for "don't play around". good
    1. massad1
      massad1 5 December 2014 14: 33
      +2
      ABOUT! And Monsieur knows a lot about perversions laughing
  15. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 5 December 2014 13: 35
    +2
    The infa passed that on the Mistrals the filling was partially Russian, like, without the knowledge of the Russian Federation, the Franks have no right to push it to anyone. And the height of the hangars for our Kamovs. Something is muddy all, someone does not finish saying something ... request
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 5 December 2014 13: 39
      +2
      The filling can be changed if there was a buyer. Height is a plus, not a minus, so it’s not critical. Well, that is, if the hangar was underestimated, then it’s a disaster, but if it is overpriced, it’s only a plus in even more convenient maintenance and variability of the group (the same Kamovs).
      1. Shkodnik65
        Shkodnik65 5 December 2014 14: 36
        0
        I am not special in the subject, but, like, they wrote something that was installed, literally integrated into the ship. But it is somehow casually written, and it is not clear whether it is so in reality, or the next duck.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 5 December 2014 18: 22
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        The filling can be changed if there was a buyer.

        oh, it will be a perversion of the century, more than 100 km only change one wire, moreover, integrated into the ship itself ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 December 2014 16: 52
      0
      Quote: Shkodnik65
      And the height of the hangars under our Kamovs.

      More, it's not less! Nothing wrong.
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 5 December 2014 13: 36
    0
    We would take it, but we need the money ourselves.
  17. Vasily Ivashov
    Vasily Ivashov 5 December 2014 13: 36
    -2
    Yes and no! You will return the money, but with fines and stomp in the last rows in the arms trade market: now your place belongs to Russia and China.
    Well done, Oland, an award from the Russian Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex is waiting for you.
  18. Vend
    Vend 5 December 2014 13: 37
    +2
    Well, how long will we wait? Under the contract, the date of transfer is indicated. There are no Mistral, there is a trial. It’s time to sue, let them fulfill the terms of the contract or return the money with forfeit. The court will lower Olando even lower, and Marine Le Pen will raise it higher.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 5 December 2014 13: 50
      +1
      And the court will justify them. And they will say: erase with your contract, and you can make out helicopters for spare parts - and what will we do?
      It will be something like this: They won’t give the Mistrals and they won’t return the money! NATO will pay them by buying the ships - everyone is in chocolate and will mock at us!
      At the same time, they will regularly supply weapons to countries obedient to their will - a subtle hint to the Indians at the same time (and we will not be able to discourage not to buy)

      here it is necessary to raise gas prices stupidly to compensate for losses, since the gut is stolen
      1. Vend
        Vend 5 December 2014 14: 44
        0
        Quote: Tlauicol
        And the court will justify them. And they will say: erase with your contract, and you can make out helicopters for spare parts - and what will we do?
        It will be something like this: They won’t give the Mistrals and they won’t return the money! NATO will pay them by buying the ships - everyone is in chocolate and will mock at us!
        At the same time, they will regularly supply weapons to countries obedient to their will - a subtle hint to the Indians at the same time (and we will not be able to discourage not to buy)

        here it is necessary to raise gas prices stupidly to compensate for losses, since the gut is stolen

        It is unlikely that Russia will lose. There is a contract, no arguing against this. Ukraine tried too. Someone shouted that the decision would not be in Russia's favor. It turned out the opposite. It will also be here. Politics is politics, and business is on a different plane.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 December 2014 16: 57
      0
      Quote: Wend
      Well, how long will we wait? Under the contract, the transfer date is indicated

      Under the contract, France may delay the transfer of the Mistrals for three months.
  19. Funnels
    Funnels 5 December 2014 13: 41
    +3
    The Baltic states would be thrown off and redeemed: all 3 armies on one trough can also be loaded on a cruise in the Baltic.
  20. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 5 December 2014 13: 43
    -1
    I hope the lawyers are already standing at the gangway and ready to fly to France !!! am Europe understands only when it is kicked in the ass, but these are partners, partners, for them an empty phrase !! In the media, to start trolling this is a plunge pool that broke the contract that it is the most worthless country as a producer! am am am
  21. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 5 December 2014 13: 43
    +1
    Quote: Funnels
    The Baltic states would be thrown off and redeemed: all 3 armies on one trough can also be loaded on a cruise in the Baltic.

    3 armies and governments of these under-states, and flood to hell in the Mariinsky Depression
    1. Funnels
      Funnels 5 December 2014 14: 00
      +2
      Damn, but "it" does not sink.
      1. nomad
        nomad 5 December 2014 14: 18
        +1
        We will sink everything. When the Germans began to produce 600 gelding, they also said that it could not be turned over. Our journalists during a test drive - turned upside down, the Germans then brought to life for a long time laughing
  22. Vtel
    Vtel 5 December 2014 13: 44
    -1
    Shaw from blue roosters to take, and that twist backwards, they would say in Russian - Uncle Sam does not order. Let Sir Duke eat that one and take out his ...
  23. padded jacket
    padded jacket 5 December 2014 13: 44
    -1
    The situation just “shouts” that nothing can be bought from “enemies” in such a sensitive sphere as the military.
    We must build it ourselves, even if it’s longer and worse, but - by ourselves.
  24. Underwood
    Underwood 5 December 2014 13: 44
    +8
    Mistral ... What an interesting series ... Well, well, what's next?
  25. VladimS
    VladimS 5 December 2014 13: 44
    +1
    I understand that WE-RUSSIA MONEY FOR BUILT "Mistali", not when we will not receive ...

    Not true! The money will be returned in any case if these fucking Mistrals are not delivered to us. How many "blood drank" the puddles of our diplomats and the military involved .. Horror is simple.
    Another thing is to get a penalty ..! Here the question is open.
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 December 2014 13: 45
    +2
    IMHO, they will not return the penalty. And the money under the contract - too. Because the arbitration court is as "independent" as the rest of Geyropa. Remember the decision of this court on Yukos. It's like playing a thimble on the street. Losing is guaranteed. And Serdyukov needs to score a stake for such a contract.
    1. nomad
      nomad 5 December 2014 14: 23
      -1
      And to hell with them with money. We grab Danone for this. We will return the grandmother in full. laughing
  27. Dbnfkmtdbx
    Dbnfkmtdbx 5 December 2014 13: 50
    +1
    Both Mistral France to the bay
  28. vlad
    vlad 5 December 2014 13: 51
    +1
    There, in the West, once everyone blamed us that they never change the rule of the game, unlike us .. Another divorce and all just for a divorce.
  29. Dedjara
    Dedjara 5 December 2014 13: 51
    +2
    As France was a country - a prostitute, and remained.
    That in the second world fascists surrendered without a fight, that now, the same fascists, only in a strip.
    Creatures, not even, just cowards.
    But all cultural values ​​will be preserved.
  30. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 5 December 2014 13: 51
    +1
    Maybe all the same, our government will begin to respect itself a little. After all, we have their production.
  31. pahom54
    pahom54 5 December 2014 13: 53
    +5
    "Russia is in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day develop.".

    I am not a lawyer or an economist. But I think that the question I’m trying to ask will not look illiterate:

    "And what, at the conclusion of the contract, some political conditions for its implementation were spelled out? Or are the guardians trying to tie the Ukrainian reality to the announcement of some kind of force majeure?"

    There’s nothing to be surprised at, WE shot down a Boeing, WE took away the Crimea, WE are not withdrawing troops from Ukraine ...

    I would like to ask our bosses a question: what, you can’t send these French prostitutes to XXXXHYY? Forge with them - money, pride and honor of the country should be valued more ...

    BUT! J ... poo (i.e. poop) - go home!
    1. kostyan77708
      kostyan77708 5 December 2014 14: 06
      +2
      "I would like to ask our bosses a question: can't you send these French forgiving lords to XXXHYY? Yes, strike with them - money, pride and honor of the country should be valued more dearly ..." and then you can send it loudly for everyone to hear!
    2. Hort
      Hort 5 December 2014 14: 12
      +1
      yes here nifiga. Loot must be shaken from them. and if the arbitration sided with the French side (sold out), then on the basis of the BRICS, for example, do a new international arbitration.
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 December 2014 17: 02
      +2
      Quote: pahom54
      Forge money with them

      What are we generous !!! Or do we not bite money-hens? Here, damn it, we collect children for treatment with the whole world, and he - strike with them!
      1. pahom54
        pahom54 5 December 2014 19: 36
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Here, damn it, we collect children for treatment with the whole world, and he - strike with them !


        I said so for the reason that, I think, they still won’t give the money back ... But no one will really fight over this money ...
  32. Artyom
    Artyom 5 December 2014 13: 55
    +2
    Yes, the French really got into their ass, two huge hemorrhoids! They will not be able to sell or use them, well, if only to the Chinese, their weapons are similar (stripped off) to ours, but this is not a fact! A simple plant in the port also costs money! The owners of the plant will sooner or later ask them to remove from the shipyard. And frankly, the French are even a little sorry, they themselves deprived of sovereignty and independent policies, however, like all of Europe as a whole! I read an interesting book by American George Friedman, "The Next 10 Years." He is an ardent anti-Soviet and anti-communist, so there is no blame for his bias towards America. There, he directly states that for America there is no other way than to constantly dominate the planet earth and not allow others to become stronger! This concerns their allies.
  33. Rohon
    Rohon 5 December 2014 13: 55
    +3
    For the French Lift up price for Gas, am .
    1. attuda
      attuda 5 December 2014 14: 04
      +1
      And raise it higher, to 1 Mistral per cubic meter!
      1. Artyom
        Artyom 5 December 2014 14: 25
        +1
        I will disappoint you, France does not use our gas! Gets through Spain from Africa!
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 5 December 2014 17: 06
      +1
      Quote: rohon
      For the French Raise the price of Gas,

      Russia provides only 19% of France's natural gas needs. This is unlikely to work.
      1. 3axap
        3axap 5 December 2014 18: 37
        0
        Guys. Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Comrades. Someone owns information. How such contracts are concluded. Really from our side such loshary.yuristy that in captivity and you start to not respect yourself.
  34. HAM
    HAM 5 December 2014 13: 59
    +3
    Ukraine is stealing gas, France is stealing ships - what else do you need to steal in order to give hand in hand?
  35. pomor23
    pomor23 5 December 2014 14: 00
    +5
    Enough to chew the snot already !!! We are preparing a lawsuit and are doing everything to promote henpecked paddling by 10 billion euros. In parallel with this, we are carrying out a company around the world to undermine the authority of the frogmen as reliable partners, especially since everyone knows and sees everything already, you just need to constantly keep the whole world informed about this. The paddlers not only did not fulfill the contract, they essentially stole 1,5 billion from Russia - they are the thieves, and the thief should be in prison. plus everything will be absolutely right to work with other countries and convince them to abandon the weapons of the paddles in favor of Russian weapons (all means will be good here: blackmail, bribery, dumping, etc.). Now only an idiot and small children do not understand that Russia has declared a war and it is already on all fronts, except perhaps for the time being the military stage. On this snot to the side and fight !!!
  36. RUSmen
    RUSmen 5 December 2014 14: 02
    +1
    Scared a hedgehog, naked asshole !!!!! wassat laughing fellow
  37. IGMIT
    IGMIT 5 December 2014 14: 07
    0
    Yes misral on your Mistral.
  38. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 5 December 2014 14: 07
    0
    Russia is up to date. But the conditions for the transfer may one day develop.

    So, in thirty years, they can call the Kremlin and say - "we had your ships here, and so, the conditions for the transfer have developed, you can come to pick up what is left of them, and by the way, the bill for storage", or they may not call at all ... And the most interesting thing, he said, is that "our people in the Kremlin" are aware of the situation and do not mind.
  39. Hort
    Hort 5 December 2014 14: 09
    0
    and when will we see actions, not words and lamentations of the Russian side?
    1. Prager
      Prager 5 December 2014 14: 22
      -2
      but they themselves do not know what to do with burrs, and with these scows. because they realized how tightly the frame clamped the burrs by the eggs and that the burrs themselves would not do anything on their own, but only at the direction of Fashington. That's how the GDP slapped us into the story with these likes, which we absolutely do not need.
  40. morpogr
    morpogr 5 December 2014 14: 11
    0
    Maybe they should create the conditions, there is no solution to funny listening.
  41. eXelenSe
    eXelenSe 5 December 2014 14: 14
    -1
    Interestingly, this one at least understands that he needs to fuse these "bums" (as it was said here in one article) more than we get them.
  42. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 5 December 2014 14: 14
    -2
    When the paid Mistrals come to the raid - torpedo and let them choke on their bottom trash.
  43. Realkng
    Realkng 5 December 2014 14: 14
    +1
    With our Western Ukrainian "PARTNERS", it is NECESSARY to live not according to the scheme of Twelve chairs - in the morning money (we give them), in the evening chairs (they are for us), but categorically the opposite (in the morning we take their stools, and wait until the grandmothers - you get nervous, gentlemen, crap), especially in the supply of gas, oil, etc., etc. It will be gorgeous. good
  44. no_comment87
    no_comment87 5 December 2014 14: 18
    +1
    Quote: Tlauicol
    here it is necessary to raise gas prices stupidly to compensate for losses, since the gut is stolen

    And so it will be. We will not see either mistrals or money, I'm sure of that. Half a year ago, as it was at a meeting of the Congress, they discussed sanctions against us. They raised a question there in my opinion about helicopters in Afghanistan, one says we can't break the contract with Russia, we'll stick it out for money, and another senator with a dull face and says - and what? Well, let them try to collect from us))) That's it, guys. These are not contracts with countries of "victorious democracy", this is a gop-stop. They don't cost much more. At the present time, in general, such contracts are not worth the paper on which they are written. And they do not care about their reputation - the mainstream rules, I think it is clear who will be declared "guilty" of the non-transfer of ships to Russia and the theft of one and a half lard of greenery from Russia itself - Russia itself.
    There, in the Crimea already sold Kolomoisk profits and people paid, a good precedent. Frog ownership on the territory of the Russian Federation I think will be typed in 10 lard. In the end, you can arrest a couple of French bulk carriers in ports, and that’s the end.
  45. Prager
    Prager 5 December 2014 14: 19
    -5
    Well, the GDP slammed us with its corrupt actions with these French scammers, even on the very testicles. And why the hell did they give us? They can be pierced with a screwdriver and re-shot with an ordinary chainsaw. it’s ridiculous to watch how burrs in front of the mattresses vyzhayutsya, just to please, tightly clamped their frames for testicles. As for the article, it’s all right, hacking up potential deals with our firm, like a standing scrap, skillful diplomacy.
  46. bmv04636
    bmv04636 5 December 2014 14: 22
    +1
    The French built the most expensive scrap wassat
  47. v245721
    v245721 5 December 2014 14: 23
    -1
    money to Russia and Mistrals for scrap.
  48. Mityasha
    Mityasha 5 December 2014 14: 25
    +1
    He blurted out, and he wiped the sweat from his forehead and thought when he was peeling ... he would rake it !!! Spakuha, soaring, the Russian child will not offend !!!
  49. Jovanny
    Jovanny 5 December 2014 14: 27
    0
    Well, what can AvtoVAZ take back?) Renault in the span with its share of shares?
  50. Litol
    Litol 5 December 2014 14: 29
    0
    Quote: D-Master
    Leave yourself the Mistral, we don’t really need them, return the loot + fines and you can convert them into gambling.

    An interesting idea is a floating brothel! In general, our sailors muster up and take off from there, and the latter opens up the Kingstones, or cleverly miners this trough. angry