French defense minister says Paris may never pass the Mistral to Russia

The head of the military department of France, Jean-Yves Le Drian, finally made an attempt to call a spade a spade in terms of the situation with helicopter carriers of the Mistral type, built for the Naval fleet Of Russia. Le Drian said that France is closely monitoring the conditions in Ukraine and concludes that Russia may never get the Mistrals. Le Drian made his fabrications on the air of the TV channel http://www.bfmtv.com:

Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.

If Le Drian were completely honest with those viewers for whom he spoke his words, he would have to say something like:
Mr. Hollande is subject to the political will of the United States, and therefore France will never transfer helicopter carriers built on a paid contract for Russia to the Russian Navy, thus depriving themselves of the status of a reliable supplier and contractor.

Will Russia get a penalty from the French in the event of filing in court. There is an opinion that arbitration, the independence of which is under a big question, will stand on the side of France (or rather, the United States). In this case, it is necessary to respond asymmetrically - to work actively with those states that have gathered to conclude arms supply contracts with Paris and convince. Recently, more and more information appears that India is going to abandon the purchase of French fighters. But not only India is cooperating with France in terms of military purchases from non-NATO states ... Russia needs to use its chance and “disconnect” Paris and Hollande from contracts with other countries. Moscow has the tools and levers - first of all, diplomacy.

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[Funnels]

Yes, shove them already in your w .., but poop home.

[Giant thought]

Yes, you do not say, but do it, do not give it, and it’s the end.

[Момент]

Well, at least we’ve decided, otherwise we’ve arranged behind-the-scenes games. All of Russia needs to return money and build ships better than the Mistral

[comprochikos]

Yes, they themselves have already misraised the drum. The main thing now is not to lose money. And then this arbitration, pocket ball of the USA, will start to stir up trouble.

[Alekseev]

Quote from comprochikos

. And then this arbitration, pocket ball of the USA, will start to stir up trouble.

That's for sure!
Surely there are debts to the French, they must be frozen. So far, they won’t pay for Mistral.
And, in general, it is necessary to curtail our participation in this globalization under the auspices of the West. Gently but inexorably make a U-turn.

[Tartar]

How much can you turn to the west, then to the east. We need to become strong ourselves, to live with our own heads. Well, partnerships with the whole world must be maintained.

[Alekseev]

Quote: TarTar

partnerships with the whole world need to be maintained.

I want it myself, yes!
Do not give enemies with all the light.
After all, partnerships involve the transfer of what was paid for under the contract on time, they also suggest that you can hope for an international court (not like in the Yukos case and in the cases of the former Yugoslavia), they assume that the guarantors of the Yanukovych agreements in the maydaunas did not sign checkmarks, and for guarantees that the independence of Kosovo and Crimea are no different from the point of view of international law, as well as the sovereignty of Ukraine and Yugoslavia or Libya, or Syria with Iraq, etc.

[ATATA]

Quote: TarTar

How much can you turn to the west, then to the east. We need to become strong ourselves, to live with our own heads.

Golden words!

[Bombardier]

MOSCOW, December 5 - RIA Novosti. Russia will be satisfied in both cases: if France hands over the Mistral helicopter carriers to it or if it reimburses the costs, but a decision must be made, said Russian Ambassador to France Alexander Orlov on the air of the French radio station Europe 1.
Mistral-class landing ship Vladivostok at the docks of the French company SNX France

"If these ships are handed over, we will be happy. If they are not handed over, but the costs are reimbursed, we will also be satisfied. We placed an order, paid and now we are waiting," said Alexander Orlov.
According to him, the delivery time for the ships has not yet gone beyond the limits specified in the contract, so Russia is still waiting. "Our position is very calm and unperturbed," the Russian ambassador said. But, according to him, "France must make a decision now."


RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20141205/1036747708.html#ixzz3L1JVJBBK

[kuz363]

Dreaming is not harmful

[jktu66]

The main thing now is not to lose money

Money will not be returned, Obama will prohibit

[1812 1945]

Quote from comprochikos

Yes, they themselves have already misraised the drum. The main thing now is not to lose money. And then this arbitration, pocket ball of the USA, will start to stir up trouble.

These floating mass graves will come in handy for the former France itself - the country of the Last World (which refers to all the shamefully omitted ami). It is necessary to take from them in full, glorifying as loudly as scammers. It is necessary by any means to destroy their agreements with the BRICS countries and beyond.

[DEfindER]

Quote from comprochikos

The main thing now is not to lose money.

I'm afraid that they are unlikely to return the money. At first, Misralay was glad that he wouldn’t have to make the whole infrastructure for them more expensive than the ships themselves, and become dependent on the service of NATO. And then it became clear that it was unlikely that it would be possible to return the invested .. For anyone they say: what kind of money are you, we will soon begin to expropriate all your accounts, (i.e. stupidly rob like Gaddafi at one time)

[kuz363]

And it will be so. The Yukos court decided to pay $ 50 billion to the former owners until mid-January, and then it will be possible to seize the property of Russia, to sell and give it to these owners. That is, execute the decision of the international court. Here are the Mistral and the first will go on account of payment. They do not need to be searched. The Chinese will buy them at half price or a third with pleasure. Then it comes to the rest of overseas property and deposits. Also cover the money of Russia, which lie abroad. The only subtlety is that the ships have not been handed over to Russia and, it seems, are not yet its property. But Western lawyers ate the dog and find a way out quickly.

[Catch_veter]

Rogozin said that the filling is ours ... the paddlers only made the body.

[Dali]

Wait and see ... for now

http://tass.ru/politika/1622234

Russia has challenged the decision of the Hague court in the Yukos case. The head of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation Alexander Konovalov told TASS about it. ... He noted that the decision was contested in full, and "in what part the court will meet halfway and whether it will meet halfway, it is a question."

It is clear that it will not work ... but then this is another nail in the lid of the coffin, in which Europe put itself.

[Aleksander]

Quote: kuz363

Yukos court decides to pay $ 50 billion to former owners

Its jurisdiction is not recognized by Russia.

[DEfindER]

Quote: kuz363

And it will be so. The Yukos court decided to pay $ 50 billion to the former owners until mid-January, and then it will be possible to seize the property of Russia

The coolest thing is that when they take away property worth 50 billion, their appetite will only grow and they will think of something else to continue to rob us .. In such situations, we will have to arrest the property of the West in Russia to compensate for the losses, and this is again the Iron Curtain .. well, we don’t get used to it, we will survive, but to them I think it will only get worse, especially Europe ..

[Victorio]

the money received may be returned, but the forfeit is highly doubtful

[bulvas]

Sometimes it seems that Russia is doing everything to show the true face of the acting characters:

USA - No comments
Ukraine - now the whole world will see what kind of gift it is and what it is "to cue and tick" or " I won’t take away all the apples, but I’m biting!"
Germany - Revanchist gut climbed out
France - litter, which has always been
Other - mooing herd

[cosmos111]

Quote: Funnels

It is believed that arbitration, whose independence is a big question

I understand that WE-RUSSIA MONEY FOR BUILT "Mistali", not when we will not receive ...

all hope for the Indians ..... and others, countries, not "MEMBERS" of NATO .....

[insafufa]

Quote: cosmos111

Quote: Funnels

It is believed that arbitration, whose independence is a big question

I understand that WE-RUSSIA MONEY FOR BUILT "Mistali", not when we will not receive ...

all hope for the Indians ..... and others, countries, not "MEMBERS" of NATO .....

Hindus can try and conclude, but the question is whether Paris can fulfill them
So we shaved Iran with the S-300V in dreams, we all worked together and they work, but a couple of contracts we crawled out because of this. The Indians chose rafal and for this, as it was written in one article from the Indian author
the Indians said that the moment would win, but they decided to take Rafal

[Dali]

If the Hindus refuse Rafaley ... yes it’s clear, and so who needs it and what needs to be done. Only Hindus, they are Hindus - they can negotiate on the American ones.

Then amerikozy France already have twice black! and Hindus in the end, too ...

[Dreamwriter]

In such cases, the money of French residents located in Russia is nationalized.

[Samaritan]

We are changing to Renault and another 6000 companies operating in Russia ...
It seems that all these applicants are breaking the ground in the hope of an answer from Russia in order to prepare, but we are silent)) the naughty girls)))

[jayich]

We will not try to sue our money in court first, there you’ll look and Sevastopol will be completed, both ships will be ready for Saint Nazar Peter the Great will come with the company, the teams will warm up the diesel engine on the mistral roads and two of our new boats will fly the Andreevsky flag and go under our escort home...
This is of course a joke but ...
They will be prevented from undermining their aircraft carrier (to carry out the operation by a division of underwater swimmers, as the Italians sank Novorossiysk at one time) and let the crocodiles shed their tears, it would be time to instill in the whole world that we now always return for our grandmothers and property (I would very much like to believe in this). And then let poor little Oland go cry to the Americans give money for a new aircraft carrier.
And if without jokes to freeze for the sum of the contract and forfeit property, for example, the French company Total.

[kuz363]

And if without jokes to freeze for the amount of the contract and forfeit property for example the French company Total

Bad idea. This directly negatively affects the oil business of Russia, which means the budget and life of the country. Those. of the people.

[predator.3]

Quote: Funnels

Yes, shove them already in your w .., but poop home.

That's it, return the prepayment with a penalty! And yeah ... at least where! Sell ​​the Khokhlov if they don’t drown (our horseradish will become one)! even in kindergarten, they don’t behave like that!

[sever.56]

Well, finally the French courtesans were born. We will be able to build ships that are really needed for our fleet for the penalty. Along the way, we need to work with India, and convince that our MiGs and Su are better and cheaper than the Rafale !!!

[Penelope]

We are waiting for an official refusal, but without it it is impossible.

[wolf7]

Well, no, the descendants of Robespierre can not be let down. Or a refund, or ships. They don’t want to give either this or that - the complete nationalization of their assets in Russia and the luring of potential buyers of weapons from France to us, so let them switch to feeding on frogs, there’s not enough money for another, because there are too many migrants with Arab countries and everyone wants not to work, but to receive good benefits and other benefits.

[nahalenok911]

Quote: wolf7

even if they switch to frog food, there’s not enough money for another.

They just won't have enough for a frog. And then they will remember for their "jamon" ... And they will whine, like "our" Ksyusha.

[Mahmut]

French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian finally made an attempt to call a spade a spade

Of course, he made an attempt to call things by their proper names. But the attempt was unsuccessful. And it would seem, what is easier to say "Yes" or "No"

[Deniska]

The true course of France ....

[Igor39]

Is this like blackmail, or am I thinking wrong?

[predator.3]

Quote: Igor39

Is this like blackmail, or am I thinking wrong?

No, it's like the type of girls, "I'm not like that!" , and then after the first glass ... you can't tear it off ...

[Am]

This is like an ordinary kidalovo. We paid money, we have a contract, but we want to give the ships, we want to not give them back. What kind of garbage is this ... then you can say that we don’t like the weather. Where can I read the contract this one? They shout at everyone that Russia has revived, but is gaining power, it’s not visible just ... The same southern stream was built, built, then once! And it is not needed, but let’s go to Turkey, and where is the guarantee that then Turkey also what kind of thread doesn’t throw the garbage? Then they will also say that it turns out we don’t really need it? The languages ​​are beautifully scratched, sometimes it’s disgusting to listen .. And with a strong country, no one would dare to do this (subjective opinion) something is blinking, then Ukrainian ministers are obscene to the president. And what’s the result? They went out there, condemned something, but how it’s not right, but how it’s not diplomatic .. And they don’t care for a long time, then more. And we all mumble, yes mumble .. others watch and draw conclusions. I will never believe that you can’t plug the same Latvia or Lithuania, the more they’re very addicted she’s taking away from us. And only grandmothers are sitting with us, and let them even lay the president, even though they don’t give the ships back. I won’t be surprised if they leave them without money. What kind of interest there would be to pick up what they paid for, and even the feed this ... as they are, sawing off what they will. We will see in general.

[Litol]

Nah. Let it sit stern with stern. But select money for the stern

[Vorlon]

I agree. But one moment. I would agree with the non-return of feed, but with one condition. Let the feed remain with them, (as the previous commentator said) but well ... across, it means for the future.

[theadenter]

Only it is not clear where we will put the stern ...

[Serzh73]

Yes, you can and with the stern, and because in fact there will be nothing to stick around.

[D-Master]

Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.

Well, finally, this is the first statement of a responsible official. They can and should be used in the COURT. Leave yourself the Mistral, we don’t really need them, return the loot + fines and you can convert them into gambling. They are just missing in Europe

[sabakina]

Quote: D-Master

Well, finally, this is the first statement of a responsible official. They can and should be used in COURT. Leave yourself the Mistral, we don’t really need them, return the loot + fines and you can convert them into gambling. They are just missing in Europe

-And who are the judges ?!
(c) "Hamlet" W. Shakespeare.
Classic pancake.

[SRC P-15]

Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.

The conditions for the transfer may develop, and the transfer will be called: "Dog in the Seine".

[Alexei]

Quote: D-Master

you can convert them into geybodedel

One of the Mistrals can be proudly called "Blue Olland" - "Blue Olland".

[Serg 122]

One of the Mistrals can be proudly called "Blue Olland" - "Blue Olland".

"... she would give, but only mom does not allow ..." In this case, dad. So big, black ...

[jaguar]

Chet it reminds me ..... as if it would give yes mom does not allow !!!

[aszzz888]

Today we do not pass them on (“Mistrali” - approx. “VO”). And we can not pass. Russia in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day be formed.

What are you jerking off, stump dogs ss.t!
Yes, dance with your minsrali yet!

[GeorgeSev85]

only heard KVA-KVA-KVA ....

Pay a forfeit and roll with your Mistals.

[_my opinion]

that Russia may never get the Mistral

Zadolbali already ... well, no so no - drive back the money and scatter ... yes, return the stern !!!

[kimanas]

When, in addition to diplomacy, will an instrument such as the price of gas work?

[Bayonet]

Quote: kimanas

When, in addition to diplomacy, will an instrument such as the price of gas work?

Russia provides only 19% of France's natural gas needs.

[kelevra]

Well, don’t tell me, we’ve lived without Mistral all the time and now we’ll do it, the plots need to think about where to get from 3-5 billion euros to pay us a penalty for non-fulfillment of the contract!

[inkass_98]

I don’t know, I don’t know ... France has so many assets in Russia that it would be stupid to risk them in case of a negative arbitration decision against Russia. This is the automotive industry, and the banking sector, and the oil and gas industry and much more. You just have to be an idiot to lose the whole business in Russia due to the amount of forfeit.

[corn]

inkass_98
Quote: "You just have to be an idiot to lose the whole business in Russia due to the amount of the penalty."
Instead of "Russia" write "US and EU".
And second, ours didn’t know that Jews hijacked rocket boats from the French? - This is about contracts with other countries (this is not for you, but for everyone).

[donavi49]

Jews stole boats:
a) Skopom, the entire order. Now you can only steal Vladik, Sevas only in tow.
b) A short shoulder - a few hours and they are no longer in the jurisdiction of France, in contrast to the passage through the whole of France from Saint Nazaire or through England along the northern route.
at) With the approval of the USA.

[corn]

donavi49
Quote:
"Jews stole boats: ..."
I wondered why the Jews could do this.
I just can’t guess why, knowing this fact, we are making a deal, and India, for example, will not.

[Bayonet]

Quote: donavi49

Now you can only steal Vladik

Is he as brisk and fast as a boat ??? Oh well ...

[donavi49]

Well, if you anger the black Lord, you can lose the top French banks, the gigantic scandal with which Obama was hushed up in the wake of Holland’s good behavior. It can be inflated and Societe and others will fly - at least oxygen will be cut off for easy money in the USA, plus they will start the information war.

Therefore, it must be considered there. Nationalization of private companies is also not an easy task. The same Renault in the VAZ is not French but Renault Nissan and is registered in the NETHERLANDS. How are you going to kick him out? So that the Japanese and other market participants do not run out of the country?

Then there are a bunch of life-complicating procedures, such as a mirror. Unilateral arrest - enterprises in the EU and property associated with the Russian Federation.

This is all very complicated in general.

[corn]

donavi49
Quote:
"It's all very complicated in general."
For those wishing to seize French property - not difficult.

[donavi49]

For those wishing to arrest Russian property, it is also easy to find and arrest. Everyone can play this game and the question is who will suffer the most. Again, the French have a pretty good fit, and at first glance at 100% of the enterprises of the owners of the frogs, in fact they are legally Belgian, Dutch, Hungarian and even Russian.

[corn]

donavi49
Quote:
"For those wishing to seize Russian property, it is also easy ..."
I am not considering idiots who want to arrest Russian property, but I am talking about those who are already going to arrest French property for Mistral.
You do not understand this?

[Botanologist]

Quote: corn

For those wishing to seize French property - not difficult.

Well, for the guard, it’s not difficult to arrest what you want, the problems will then begin with others. And who will rake them? For anyone, not the goers, they don’t have enough brains. Arrests of our property around the world will go tomorrow - and what shall we do?

[corn]

Botanologist
Quote:
"And who will rake them?"
Anyone who suggested this on the site and who support it for sure will not

[FACKtoREAL]

Das ist French
Oh la la!

[Mantykora]

So that's great! 3 billion euros forfeit and return the feed. And put the Mistrals in the middle of the Seine in Paris as a monument to French "independence" from the USA!

[wolf7]

And give them the name Hollande and his geisha

[raid14]

They demand from Russia to bend under the Western world and give up the Mistrals? No, let it be better if he bends under us.

[mackonya]

Well done, the French, for the sake of an approving "nod" are ready to pinch themselves one place. And the money will still have to be returned, I hope with a penalty.

[nomad]

Zadornov is right - the mattress covers are stupid. In their place, on the contrary, I would recommend giving the mistrals on the condition that they will be in the Baltic. And I would "milk" the Baltics for rearmament every year for "don't play around".

[massad1]

ABOUT! And Monsieur knows a lot about perversions

[Shkodnik65]

The infa passed that on the Mistrals the filling was partially Russian, like, without the knowledge of the Russian Federation, the Franks have no right to push it to anyone. And the height of the hangars for our Kamovs. Something is muddy all, someone does not finish saying something ...

[donavi49]

The filling can be changed if there was a buyer. Height is a plus, not a minus, so it’s not critical. Well, that is, if the hangar was underestimated, then it’s a disaster, but if it is overpriced, it’s only a plus in even more convenient maintenance and variability of the group (the same Kamovs).

[Shkodnik65]

I am not special in the subject, but, like, they wrote something that was installed, literally integrated into the ship. But it is somehow casually written, and it is not clear whether it is so in reality, or the next duck.

[PSih2097]

Quote: donavi49

The filling can be changed if there was a buyer.

oh, it will be a perversion of the century, more than 100 km only change one wire, moreover, integrated into the ship itself ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Shkodnik65

And the height of the hangars under our Kamovs.

More, it's not less! Nothing wrong.

[Stinger]

We would take it, but we need the money ourselves.

[Vasily Ivashov]

Yes and no! You will return the money, but with fines and stomp in the last rows in the arms trade market: now your place belongs to Russia and China.
Well done, Oland, an award from the Russian Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex is waiting for you.

[Vend]

Well, how long will we wait? Under the contract, the date of transfer is indicated. There are no Mistral, there is a trial. It’s time to sue, let them fulfill the terms of the contract or return the money with forfeit. The court will lower Olando even lower, and Marine Le Pen will raise it higher.

[tlauicol]

And the court will justify them. And they will say: erase with your contract, and you can make out helicopters for spare parts - and what will we do?
It will be something like this: They won’t give the Mistrals and they won’t return the money! NATO will pay them by buying the ships - everyone is in chocolate and will mock at us!
At the same time, they will regularly supply weapons to countries obedient to their will - a subtle hint to the Indians at the same time (and we will not be able to discourage not to buy)

here it is necessary to raise gas prices stupidly to compensate for losses, since the gut is stolen

[Vend]

Quote: Tlauicol

And the court will justify them. And they will say: erase with your contract, and you can make out helicopters for spare parts - and what will we do?
It will be something like this: They won’t give the Mistrals and they won’t return the money! NATO will pay them by buying the ships - everyone is in chocolate and will mock at us!
At the same time, they will regularly supply weapons to countries obedient to their will - a subtle hint to the Indians at the same time (and we will not be able to discourage not to buy)

here it is necessary to raise gas prices stupidly to compensate for losses, since the gut is stolen

It is unlikely that Russia will lose. There is a contract, no arguing against this. Ukraine tried too. Someone shouted that the decision would not be in Russia's favor. It turned out the opposite. It will also be here. Politics is politics, and business is on a different plane.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Wend

Well, how long will we wait? Under the contract, the transfer date is indicated

Under the contract, France may delay the transfer of the Mistrals for three months.

[Funnels]

The Baltic states would be thrown off and redeemed: all 3 armies on one trough can also be loaded on a cruise in the Baltic.

[Siberia 9444]

I hope the lawyers are already standing at the gangway and ready to fly to France !!! Europe understands only when it is kicked in the ass, but these are partners, partners, for them an empty phrase !! In the media, to start trolling this is a plunge pool that broke the contract that it is the most worthless country as a producer!

[kostyan77708]

Quote: Funnels

The Baltic states would be thrown off and redeemed: all 3 armies on one trough can also be loaded on a cruise in the Baltic.

3 armies and governments of these under-states, and flood to hell in the Mariinsky Depression

[Funnels]

Damn, but "it" does not sink.

[nomad]

We will sink everything. When the Germans began to produce 600 gelding, they also said that it could not be turned over. Our journalists during a test drive - turned upside down, the Germans then brought to life for a long time

[Vtel]

Shaw from blue roosters to take, and that twist backwards, they would say in Russian - Uncle Sam does not order. Let Sir Duke eat that one and take out his ...

[padded jacket]

The situation just “shouts” that nothing can be bought from “enemies” in such a sensitive sphere as the military.
We must build it ourselves, even if it’s longer and worse, but - by ourselves.

[Underwood]

Mistral ... What an interesting series ... Well, well, what's next?

[VladimS]

I understand that WE-RUSSIA MONEY FOR BUILT "Mistali", not when we will not receive ...

Not true! The money will be returned in any case if these fucking Mistrals are not delivered to us. How many "blood drank" the puddles of our diplomats and the military involved .. Horror is simple.
Another thing is to get a penalty ..! Here the question is open.

[Mountain shooter]

IMHO, they will not return the penalty. And the money under the contract - too. Because the arbitration court is as "independent" as the rest of Geyropa. Remember the decision of this court on Yukos. It's like playing a thimble on the street. Losing is guaranteed. And Serdyukov needs to score a stake for such a contract.

[nomad]

And to hell with them with money. We grab Danone for this. We will return the grandmother in full.

[Dbnfkmtdbx]

Both Mistral France to the bay

[vlad]

There, in the West, once everyone blamed us that they never change the rule of the game, unlike us .. Another divorce and all just for a divorce.

[Dedjara]

As France was a country - a prostitute, and remained.
That in the second world fascists surrendered without a fight, that now, the same fascists, only in a strip.
Creatures, not even, just cowards.
But all cultural values ​​will be preserved.

[Mareman Vasilich]

Maybe all the same, our government will begin to respect itself a little. After all, we have their production.

[pahom54]

"Russia is in the know. But the conditions for the transfer may one day develop."...

I am not a lawyer or an economist. But I think that the question I’m trying to ask will not look illiterate:

"And what, at the conclusion of the contract, some political conditions for its implementation were spelled out? Or are the guardians trying to tie the Ukrainian reality to the announcement of some kind of force majeure?"

There’s nothing to be surprised at, WE shot down a Boeing, WE took away the Crimea, WE are not withdrawing troops from Ukraine ...

I would like to ask our bosses a question: what, you can’t send these French prostitutes to XXXXHYY? Forge with them - money, pride and honor of the country should be valued more ...

BUT! J ... poo (i.e. poop) - go home!

[kostyan77708]

"I would like to ask our bosses a question: can't you send these French forgiving lords to XXXHYY? Yes, strike with them - money, pride and honor of the country should be valued more dearly ..." and then you can send it loudly for everyone to hear!

[Hort]

yes here nifiga. Loot must be shaken from them. and if the arbitration sided with the French side (sold out), then on the basis of the BRICS, for example, do a new international arbitration.

[Bayonet]

Quote: pahom54

Forge money with them

What are we generous !!! Or do we not bite money-hens? Here, damn it, we collect children for treatment with the whole world, and he - strike with them!

[pahom54]

Quote: Bayonet

Here, damn it, we collect children for treatment with the whole world, and he - strike with them !

I said so for the reason that, I think, they still won’t give the money back ... But no one will really fight over this money ...

[Artyom]

Yes, the French really got into their ass, two huge hemorrhoids! They will not be able to sell or use them, well, if only to the Chinese, their weapons are similar (stripped off) to ours, but this is not a fact! A simple plant in the port also costs money! The owners of the plant will sooner or later ask them to remove from the shipyard. And frankly, the French are even a little sorry, they themselves deprived of sovereignty and independent policies, however, like all of Europe as a whole! I read an interesting book by American George Friedman, "The Next 10 Years." He is an ardent anti-Soviet and anti-communist, so there is no blame for his bias towards America. There, he directly states that for America there is no other way than to constantly dominate the planet earth and not allow others to become stronger! This concerns their allies.

[Rohon]

For the French Lift up price for Gas, ...

[attuda]

And raise it higher, to 1 Mistral per cubic meter!

[Artyom]

I will disappoint you, France does not use our gas! Gets through Spain from Africa!

[Bayonet]

Quote: rohon

For the French Raise the price of Gas,

Russia provides only 19% of France's natural gas needs. This is unlikely to work.

[3axap]

Guys. Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Comrades. Someone owns information. How such contracts are concluded. Really from our side such loshary.yuristy that in captivity and you start to not respect yourself.

[HAM]

Ukraine is stealing gas, France is stealing ships - what else do you need to steal in order to give hand in hand?

[pomor23]

Enough to chew the snot already !!! We are preparing a lawsuit and are doing everything to promote henpecked paddling by 10 billion euros. In parallel with this, we are carrying out a company around the world to undermine the authority of the frogmen as reliable partners, especially since everyone knows and sees everything already, you just need to constantly keep the whole world informed about this. The paddlers not only did not fulfill the contract, they essentially stole 1,5 billion from Russia - they are the thieves, and the thief should be in prison. plus everything will be absolutely right to work with other countries and convince them to abandon the weapons of the paddles in favor of Russian weapons (all means will be good here: blackmail, bribery, dumping, etc.). Now only an idiot and small children do not understand that Russia has declared a war and it is already on all fronts, except perhaps for the time being the military stage. On this snot to the side and fight !!!

[RUSmen]

Scared a hedgehog, naked asshole !!!!!

[IGMIT]

Yes misral on your Mistral.

[chunga-changa]

Russia is up to date. But the conditions for the transfer may one day develop.

So, in thirty years, they can call the Kremlin and say - "we had your ships here, and so, the conditions for the transfer have developed, you can come to pick up what is left of them, and by the way, the bill for storage", or they may not call at all ... And the most interesting thing, he said, is that "our people in the Kremlin" are aware of the situation and do not mind.

[Hort]

and when will we see actions, not words and lamentations of the Russian side?

[Prager]

but they themselves do not know what to do with burrs, and with these scows. because they realized how tightly the frame clamped the burrs by the eggs and that the burrs themselves would not do anything on their own, but only at the direction of Fashington. That's how the GDP slapped us into the story with these likes, which we absolutely do not need.

[morpogr]

Maybe they should create the conditions, there is no solution to funny listening.

[eXelenSe]

Interestingly, this one at least understands that he needs to fuse these "bums" (as it was said here in one article) more than we get them.

[Aleksey_K]

When the paid Mistrals come to the raid - torpedo and let them choke on their bottom trash.

[Realkng]

With our Western Ukrainian "PARTNERS", it is NECESSARY to live not according to the scheme of Twelve chairs - in the morning money (we give them), in the evening chairs (they are for us), but categorically the opposite (in the morning we take their stools, and wait until the grandmothers - you get nervous, gentlemen, crap), especially in the supply of gas, oil, etc., etc. It will be gorgeous.

[no_comment87]

Quote: Tlauicol

here it is necessary to raise gas prices stupidly to compensate for losses, since the gut is stolen

And so it will be. We will not see either mistrals or money, I'm sure of that. Half a year ago, as it was at a meeting of the Congress, they discussed sanctions against us. They raised a question there in my opinion about helicopters in Afghanistan, one says we can't break the contract with Russia, we'll stick it out for money, and another senator with a dull face and says - and what? Well, let them try to collect from us))) That's it, guys. These are not contracts with countries of "victorious democracy", this is a gop-stop. They don't cost much more. At the present time, in general, such contracts are not worth the paper on which they are written. And they do not care about their reputation - the mainstream rules, I think it is clear who will be declared "guilty" of the non-transfer of ships to Russia and the theft of one and a half lard of greenery from Russia itself - Russia itself.
There, in the Crimea already sold Kolomoisk profits and people paid, a good precedent. Frog ownership on the territory of the Russian Federation I think will be typed in 10 lard. In the end, you can arrest a couple of French bulk carriers in ports, and that’s the end.

[Prager]

Well, the GDP slammed us with its corrupt actions with these French scammers, even on the very testicles. And why the hell did they give us? They can be pierced with a screwdriver and re-shot with an ordinary chainsaw. it’s ridiculous to watch how burrs in front of the mattresses vyzhayutsya, just to please, tightly clamped their frames for testicles. As for the article, it’s all right, hacking up potential deals with our firm, like a standing scrap, skillful diplomacy.

[bmv04636]

The French built the most expensive scrap

[v245721]

money to Russia and Mistrals for scrap.

[Mityasha]

He blurted out, and he wiped the sweat from his forehead and thought when he was peeling ... he would rake it !!! Spakuha, soaring, the Russian child will not offend !!!

[Jovanny]

Well, what can AvtoVAZ take back?) Renault in the span with its share of shares?

[Litol]

Quote: D-Master

Leave yourself the Mistral, we don’t really need them, return the loot + fines and you can convert them into gambling.

An interesting idea is a floating brothel! In general, our sailors muster up and take off from there, and the latter opens up the Kingstones, or cleverly miners this trough.

[Olga Sinigrosova]

This assumption has the right to be, because many times thieves and deceivers in the political arena have been right. If this happens, then, I am sure, without haste, but surely and firmly, Russia will put France on a “dry ration” due to the lack of military orders.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Olga Sinigrosova

Russia will surely and firmly put France on a “packed ration” due to a lack of military orders.

How? Will sell weapons to potential customers for pennies, i.e. - at a loss?

[Urri]

2.01.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX Russia will assign the rights to claim the Mistral to China

[propolsky]

Are they really that stupid and don’t understand that these “balalaikas” are not a means of putting pressure on Russia? We are not a Micronesian country, where the difference is whether we have two ships or four. On a general Russian scale, in a week no one will remember about them. Well stupid !!! (M.Zadornov)

[MuadDib]

Crap. We are already building a pier for the Mistral in Vladivostok. Grandmothers are leaving.

[Vishnevsky]

I'm already tired of this story with the Mistrals! More like a denouement. As for me, everything is so simple - if you don’t want to give it to Mistral, return the penalty! Otherwise they behave like prostitutes. Or it’s time for us to take radical measures. In Russia, start putting a spoke in the wheels of French companies without regard to international law; anyway, they have forgotten about it recently.

[Balamyt]

The paddling pools are really playing! I won't give it to you! And these are top echelon politicians! Our people shouldn’t even get involved in these childish conversations about transferring or not transferring. We’re just waiting for the deadline, and then proceed according to the letter of the contract!

[Mercenary]

If the arbitration takes the side of France, Russia needs to unilaterally SPIT on the decisions of this “court” and not pay for a single claim in the future.

[Nataliya]

Our Lavrov said that the Mistrals are not our problem, it is a problem and a headache for France.

[rol66]

Stop spitting saliva. No one will give us anything and we will not be able to influence in any way. They have everything calculated. But in general, for Russia this lack of return.....is a straw in the wheels. There is a lot of money inside the country, you just need to show the will and direct it where the national interests require.

[forest park 86]

Bulgarians, French as prostitutes, who else?

[Hell's Angel]

What does "one day" mean? One day twenty years later? So in twenty years we won’t need them. If needed at all.
In short, where does the helicopter carrier Oland go?

[rol66]

Otherwise it means... For now, neither yes nor no, and then someday they will say take it away, otherwise there will be penalties, sanctions, seizures of property, etc. While we are weak economically, we are nothing in world politics and we will not have any allies, I generally keep quiet about our friends.

[Bayonet]

Quote: rol66

and then someday they will say take it away

“someday” does not work, there is an agreed period of possible delay - 3 months. Waiting...

[eztaeznii]

Yes, lay down on this from a high mountain! But the arbitration decision will be the moment of truth.

[Prager]

Well, the GDP got us into trouble with its corrupt actions with these French scows, right up to our testicles. And why the hell did we get them? You can pierce them with a screwdriver and rip them off with an ordinary chainsaw. It’s funny to watch how the burrs are squirming in front of the mattress covers, just to please, the frame tightly grasping their testicles. As for the article, everything is correct, cutting off potential deals with our burly, skillful diplomacy, like a standing crowbar.

[rol66]

Well, what kind of diplomacy are you talking about? The war is going on as long as the truth is economic.

[rol66]

I repeat, no one will give anything back, this is war. Has a strong enemy ever given in to a weak one? Moreover, the enemy is not an ENEMY.

[duchy]

IF OLAND AND HIS TEAM completely screw Russia (no Mistrals, no money), then a big boomerang may result, France may find itself in “export isolation” due to arms contracts. Mistral dermo kratam to this place, let them enjoy.

[dchegrinec]

In Russian, why do we need these two barrels if we can simply sue for more money for them than was spent?

[3vs]

I have doubts that we will get anything at all from the French, and not just a penalty.
One must think that on the territory of Russia, France can be nationalized.
Things are heading, if not to a military war, then certainly to an economic war.

[Lyton]

As in that proverb, “I scared the hedgehog with my bare feet.”

[Iskander 090]

The French just fucked us. We didn’t have the funds for such buildings. and they also remembered the year 1812. Well, okay, at least the money needs to be returned and then sunk with the help of combat swimmers. it will be fair.

[cidr777]

Che! Kidalovo on an international scale?! And who is responsible for the market - the whole geyropa or one monkey, who the hell knows what the republic is like.

[rocker_39]

Guys, am I missing something? Option two, either the paddling pools have gone completely crazy and are ruining their arms market, which I honestly doubt, or the mattress holds Hollande so tightly by the balls that he is ready for anything. But most likely, we simply do not know the whole truth, and most likely we will never know.

[unsinkable]

The article is succinct and understandable. The expected actions of Russia are known. They will not bend us.

[tracker]

Unfortunately, the Mistral contract is an ordinary “scam”; even if arbitration awards payment, the French, at the orders of the states, will delay payments for several years, which will practically depreciate the value of that money. In reality, we lost money; the only option is to remove the French from the arms market, even by dumping.

[hyperion121]

We have to steal it then, since they won’t give it back. Go out to intl. water and our ships will arrive there, refuel and you can go home. And if they try to block the water area with some kind of boats, I think the Mistral will be able to ram them. You don’t even have to ram it, if they see that such a colossus is slowly coming towards them without changing course, they will immediately rush in all directions. But then we’ll look at the impotent rage of the world community.

[martin.do]

Let them pay a fine and put this landing barge on the Champs Elysees as a monument to their shipbuilding company Amen

[Leader]

We don’t need these troughs... Let them choke on their scrap metal.
And money... The Russian army should act as a guarantor of such transactions in the future!
Put it right on the pier - they say, here is the money, and our guys will stand here, guard it... while you build.

[kinolog2322]

Give nationalization of Peugeot Citroen, Renault in Kaluga!!!

[Maks-80]

Yes, even if they didn’t give them away. For this money it will be possible to build our own ships and those that our fleet actually needs. And in order to ensure a guarantee of the return of money from France, it is still possible to seize French property in Russia at the appropriate price.

[rol66]

99 percent of such property does not exist in France. They are probably not fools.