Goodbye, decrepit Europe

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Pope Francis loves to award Mother Europe with unpleasant epithets. Not so long ago, he said that Europe is an idolater praying for money, and now, having visited Strasbourg, he declared that Europe is a tired and unviable old woman. According to him, the local civilization has grown old, withdrawn into itself, mired in bureaucracy and lost a living beginning.



The speech of the Pope, delivered in Strasbourg on November 25 from the rostrum of the European Parliament, is called by other observers "a new European doctrine." In a sense, this is true - after all, what is allowed to say to the pope is not at risk to be voiced by many and many European politicians who gaze into the mouth of an overseas uncle Sam and are ready to harm their own people, if only the Washington Regional Committee was pleased.

Coming to the podium, Pope Francis said: "This is a message of hope, based on the belief that our problems can be a powerful force for uniting to overcome all these fears that Europe is experiencing now with the whole world."

Pope believes that one of the "main diseases of Europe has become loneliness, characteristic of those who have no connections with others." “Loneliness began to be felt more acutely because of the economic crisis, the effects of which continue to have tragic consequences for society. In recent years, as the EU expanded, distrust on the part of citizens towards institutions, which they viewed as detached, establishing indifferent, if not harming the aspirations of individuals, rules, ”the pontiff quotes. TASS.

Further, the Pope mercilessly criticized the state of the European community. "It seems that Europe gives the impression of something aged and emaciated, which less and less feels like the main protagonist," - his words Interfax.

“This is a message that inspires a return to the firm convictions of the EU founders who wanted a future based on the opportunity to work together to overcome differences and promote peace and fraternity among all the peoples of this continent,” the pope said.

Obviously, the question of fraternity also applies to other peoples aspiring to the said continent, because Pope Francis clarified: “A single answer is needed to the migration question. We cannot allow the Mediterranean to turn into a huge graveyard! The boats arriving daily on the shores of Europe are filled with men and women who need to be received and helped. ”

According to the pontiff, in relation to migrants in the EU there is no consistent policy. Hence the roots of "slave labor and social tension." The pontiff expressed regret that in Europe now human dignity is not in the price. “Europe, having ceased to perceive the spiritual side of life, risks losing its soul over time,” he quotes. "Lenta.ru" with reference to the Associated Press.

Despite statements about migrants, the pontiff did not show himself a supporter of globalization. He said that the important task of Europe is to preserve democracy, for which it will have to avoid a number of tendencies associated with globalization.

In addition, Francis said that citizens are growing distrust of state institutions. At the same time, Europe has “grown old” and makes the overall impression of a “grandmother”, who is no longer “fertile” and even “alive”. “The great ideals that inspired Europe seem to have lost their attractive force in favor of the bureaucratic formalities of its institutions,” the pope quotes "MK" with reference to the RIA "News».

The Pope believes that the rest of the world looks at Europe as an "overgrown and self-contained" continent, notes "BBC". He believes that Europe is playing an increasingly less active role in the world. And the “old woman” only looks at this very world from the outside, and sometimes with suspicion.

BBC reminds us that in 1988, Pope John Paul II visited Strasbourg and also spoke to the European Parliament. He called Europe "a beacon of civilization."

But Pope Francis recently called Europe a "tired" continent, worshiping the "idol of money."

Pope’s short visit to Strasbourg was commented by Julia Grabovskaya in the analytical program "P.S".

Among others, the pope was met by activists of the scandalous movement “Femen”: “Dad is not a politician, he has no place in parliament!” One half-naked activist climbed onto the altar of the Cathedral of Our Lady with the EU flag.

Following the "performance" of feminists, the pope gave his description to the "old woman" of Europe (see above). According to the presenter, his words became a “cold shower” for the EP deputies.

The deputy of the European Parliament, the Austrian "green" Ulrika Lunaček, for example, spoke after the pope’s speech as follows:

“I know many lesbian and gay believers who hoped that he would open the church to everyone. It would be great for the LGBT community to hear about it from him today. ”


And that’s what Euroskeptic MP Nigel Faraj said:

“This is a modern dad. Pope of the XXI century. He called the EU tired, haggard, and barren. ”


He is not the only one who believes that the pontiff is right, the observer notes.

For example, in France, many people dislike the “values” of the EU. The French, although they were massively opposed to gay domination, could not fight off the legalization of "blue" marriages in the country. Now Paris can suffer huge losses due to the delay in the supply of Mistral to Russia. This was said in an interview with the PostScript program by well-known publicist Alexander Latsa, who speaks Russian.

“The European Union,” he said, “is a hyperstructure that is now under complete control of the United States. That is, the European Union is pursuing a policy that opposes the interests of France ... "

And here is what Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin said on the program:

“The modern West is a psychological pensioner who wants to be allowed to die in peace. Let's give him that opportunity. Europe today is not the European Union, it is us. The modern European Union has betrayed Europe as a phenomenon that was formed by Christianity. This Europe is no more. Sorry for the Catholic Church, which missed the opportunity to build the life of Western Europe under the Christian authority. ”


As noted by TASSAfter the Pope’s speech, the President of the European Parliament, Martin Schulz, said that "Europe has been undergoing a tremendous, dramatic crisis with enormous consequences over the past six years." According to the speaker, confidence in European institutions has been lost in local states. The message from the pope, Mr. Schulz, called it “European” and declared that on its basis Europe would find “unity”.

Thus, we’ll add, following the Pope, the European Union represented by the EP President recognized that Mother Europe is experiencing not only a financial crisis. In fact, the Europeans are faced with a crisis of distrust and the loss of fundamental ideas. That is, the very building of the European Union is already reeling. And not without reason Marine Le Pen suggested to hold a referendum in France on the country's withdrawal from the EU: "If I become the President of the Republic, then I will undertake an obligation to citizens in six months to organize a referendum on secession from the European Union."

From the reports of the Western press one can find out something else about the Pope’s visit to Strasbourg.

Catholic European circles were very unhappy that the pontiff spent only four hours in the city. The pope was even reminded that he was not born in a European city, but in Buenos Aires. Well, now dad "ignores" Europe.

Believers Catholics expressed their disappointment with the short visit of Francis I. They would like the pontiff to speak at the cathedral. But it is possible that the pope in a democratic Strasbourg feared a feminist.

Reportedly and remarkable detail of the visit of the Pope. The pontiff abandoned the armored "papamobile" and drove his Peugeot.

Finally, we consider it necessary to quote the words of the pope, which the EU politicians, if they had more intelligence and independence, could regard as parting words:

“The best way to peace is to treat others not as enemies, but as brothers and sisters who must be accepted. It is an ongoing process that can never be considered fully completed. ”


At a time when there is a lot of talk about the renewed Cold War, about increasing the arms race and even about the danger of a nuclear conflict, these words sound not just sharply, but topically.

The Pope did not say anything at all about the sanctions, which, on the orders of the American “brothers and sisters,” the decrepit Europe imposed against Russia and from which it suffers itself. The pontiff didn’t say anything about the behavior of Bulgaria, which hacked down the project of the Russian South Stream gas pipeline at the insistence of the White House and Senator Mr. McCain - by the way, the aged guys and those who are well suited as brothers to old Europe.

This is not a papal thing - to go into politics, which, as we have repeatedly written on the Military Review, has long blocked the European economy. But the Pope hinted correctly at the “enemies” with whom Washington operates in a foreign policy with Brussels, meaning the Russians. Maybe Europe and the United States are tired of politicians, whose only task is to serve the hellish interests of the military-industrial complex gentlemen who want to preserve American dictates on the planet and use any excuse to strengthen it?

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    1. +28
      3 December 2014 06: 08
      Although I am not religious, Francisco can be respected for modesty and wisdom.
      1. +16
        3 December 2014 08: 08
        This dad is really a cut above the previous ones. Maybe because the Argentine? In Argentina, religion is not yet an empty phrase.

        And about Europe, he is really right. She is decrepit. And this is a normal historical process. And the saddest thing for her is that the old man can’t be returned to normal life by any medicine or persuasion.
        Therefore, after 100 years, Asians and Africans will swallow Europe. This is already obvious. And it seems to me that Russia will be the center of civilization in this part of Eurasia.
        1. Alex_Popovson
          -5
          3 December 2014 11: 45
          Better Ratzinger - yes. But to say that it is better than John Paul II is stupid. Only smarter
        2. +2
          5 December 2014 21: 12
          Quote: Sensatus
          This dad is really head and shoulders above the previous ones. Maybe because the Argentine?

          It is quite possible - a fresh look from the side, and indeed there is no European bias in it.
      2. Vladyka
        +4
        3 December 2014 11: 34
        In my opinion, you idealize dad ... Modesty and wisdom? In my opinion, calculation and hopelessness ... Dad apparently well understands that Europe is a corpse, and doing business on the basis of the corpse will continue to fail. Apparently there will be a new Vatican somewhere in Agrentin? What exactly is that dad isn’t ... cancer.
        1. P-38
          +3
          3 December 2014 12: 45
          The Pope noted, albeit in other words, the beginning of the death and decay of the great West European civilization. It stinks around the world
    2. +8
      3 December 2014 06: 11
      No, Europe, you won’t be anymore
      Mentoring how to live
      Russia has Vladimir Putin,
      And not just fooling her!
    3. -4
      3 December 2014 06: 20
      It’s just a concussion. Not a word about Christian values, a traditional family. Where don’t you kill, don’t steal? He drove off the crap and didn’t understand anything.
      1. -6
        3 December 2014 07: 27
        Now at least it’s clear why the Americans put it for politics)
      2. +10
        3 December 2014 07: 39
        Read the article first. If you don’t understand anything, then why say that it is a concussion?
        1. +4
          3 December 2014 08: 59
          But the result is really only like a concussion. Even if Jorge Bergoglio is capable of "burning the hearts of people with a verb," ​​the audience of the European Parliament is clearly heartless. Or not people.
          1. +1
            3 December 2014 09: 51
            states gently led to the collapse of the European Union (sowed discontent), now they act more directly
        2. +1
          3 December 2014 11: 13
          Why do trolls read the article - they only read the title
    4. +6
      3 December 2014 06: 22
      Already survived and dad does not want to listen to the ravings of the Eurobolons ...
    5. The comment was deleted.
      1. 0
        3 December 2014 07: 13
        I don’t understand why you are minus? What is reprehensible in these words? Apparently, someone decided that you made it up?
    6. +2
      3 December 2014 06: 47
      Finally, dad noticed that Europe at the end rhyme with ... opa. Ours have already clearly begun to distance themselves, switching in cooperation to China and Turkey.
      And what will start when they ask the loot for the Mistral?
    7. 0
      3 December 2014 06: 49
      Further, the pope mercilessly criticized the state of the European community.


      In the 17th and 18th centuries, his words would have had a very significant effect, if not decisive, but now "the voice of the beggar in the desert," may God forgive me.
    8. +4
      3 December 2014 06: 54
      Europe gives the impression of something old and haggard, which less and less feels itself the protagonist...
      The Vatican has grown wiser, how long has it called for a crusade against the USSR ...
    9. +3
      3 December 2014 07: 07
      declared that Europe - tired and unviable old woman.

      Dad gave a characterization that corresponds to modern Europe. But that's just who among the politicians will listen to him. Christian (Catholic) values ​​in the West have long been forgotten.
      1. 0
        4 December 2014 09: 59
        Quote: rotmistr60
        declared that Europe is a tired and unviable old woman.

        What about euthanasia?
    10. +2
      3 December 2014 07: 09
      “The European Union,” he said, “is a hyperstructure that is now under complete control of the United States. That is, the European Union is pursuing a policy that opposes the interests of France ... "
      News to me too
      It’s still not clear why he says so, it’s unclean here. You shouldn’t believe this office, they glossed over their cooperation with mattress special services. Moreover, these are not only the results of investigations, one of his predecessors spoke with servile pride and dog loyalty.
      Do not believe such sweet-talking people (excuse me for a crappy example, speeches of spotted-labeled Judas taught nothing?). And it’s silly to believe that Catholics suddenly became friends of Orthodox
    11. battery
      +2
      3 December 2014 07: 17
      You’re like children, honestly, the Vatican would have been a rudiment for a long time since the beginning of the scientific and technological revolution, they would have listened to their papans Roman demagogues; not so long ago they called on the higher Catholic clergy to accept normally pedestrians and lesbians in churches as well as other parishioners (a clear contradiction with the Bible ( sodomy is considered a mortal sin) .Poor poor emigrants belay who hang around the necks of ordinary citizens living on benefits and engaged in crime (and the most serious is the drug trafficking slave trade, etc.) and still try to impose their way of life on other people, and in a rather aggressive form (remember the scandals with the Christmas tree in Switzerland and the construction of mosques in Spain As Peter the Great said at one time -We don’t meddle in your spiritual affairs, so you don’t meddle in our state (this also applies to the Russian Orthodox Church) in the Middle Ages it was the Vatican who was the inspiration for “drag nach osten”, and now we are white and fluffy? I DO NOT BELIEVE. There is clearly a second bottom, or even the third is
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    13. +3
      3 December 2014 07: 21
      ... dad, I probably mean it ... Yes
    14. TECHNOLOGY
      +2
      3 December 2014 07: 39
      Well, Daddy! Annealing.
    15. +3
      3 December 2014 07: 55
      Well, if the Pope is so "annealing" then "The ghost of the revolution is haunting Europe" - how to drink.
    16. +5
      3 December 2014 07: 59
      Dad said well. Only vryatli will listen to him. Not those times outside the window.
    17. +1
      3 December 2014 08: 09
      I get the impression that dad is desperate and completely does not understand how to be now. Apparently he is trying to use the remains of the once powerful authority of the church for a good cause and shake this swamp, but in my opinion it’s too late. It seems that he himself understands this.
    18. +1
      3 December 2014 08: 09
      Previously, in Europe there were strong nations that decided the fate of the world - France, England, Germany, previously Austria-Hungary, Holland and Spain, and now the European Union is a puppet of its former colony, which itself is a continuation of Western European civilization, it is brave, young, but no silicone and botex can hide aging ..
    19. +5
      3 December 2014 09: 09
      These papal kooks are populism. He reproaches Europe for "isolation", that is, insufficient openness to migrants - this must be understood this way and nothing else. At the same time, he modestly keeps silent that Europe flooded with emigrants is no longer Europe at all, for the "content" of the pot is by no means a Celto-Germanic-Scandinavian "strudel", but an Asian-African "compote". Europe's "fatigue" is the exhaustion of Europeans, who are forced to feed and welcome people with COMPLETELY different value systems, moreover, forced exhaustion. These are relatives of the policy of the Carolingians of the 8th century, when they favorably allowed the Normans to go deep into France on drakkars, plunder cities, seize slaves and sell them to Jewish merchants-Rachdonians. Only business! The question is, who needs such "Carolings"? However, this is the subjective side of the "aging" of Europe. There is also an objective one: Ethnogenesis. All current "European" peoples are the heirs of tribes that have broken away from the Indo-European (Aryan) "egg", who have gone to live in the western "corner" of Eurasia, have lost their proto-culture, replaced by the Latin basis. Therefore, it is natural that Europe has long ceased to "boil", and has turned into a set of "numb" static formations, where the ethnic component is emasculated with a tendency to zero. The laws of ethnogenesis are inexorable: THERE ARE NO ethnic states! as there is no FORM without CONTENT. A state-forming ethnos (symbiosis of NOT mixed ethnic groups) is an integral and necessary condition for the existence of a state formation. Without this, states quickly end their existence, or turn into "chimeras" - aggressive formations-parasites that disappear without a trace after an external kick. There is only one recipe for Europe now - to run away from the EU back to its own states, with its own social and national policies. "Living" ethnic groups will preserve their states, the rest will pass on the baton and inheritance to the survivors. It’s a paradox - but Europe can survive only by running away to national apartments. Otherwise, it will be the same cesspool, like the pseudo-state of the United States, with all the ensuing degenerative processes among the population, the libra will be replaced by the "European Caliphate". And Europe is not capable of "new crusaders". For an extra-national, supra-national renewal is impossible.
      1. +1
        3 December 2014 09: 19
        I think it will all end with ethnic cleansing of blacks, Arabs and Asians, fascist governments are already reviving, in my opinion, a civil war awaits Europe.
      2. 0
        3 December 2014 12: 03
        I absolutely agree with you. Papism is a kind of feeding trough for certain persons who reckoned themselves among the host of Christ's "passionate fighters", however, before blaming "old Europe", it would not hurt the Pope himself to clean out his Augean stables in the Vatican and in the Catholic Church and return to the passionary course, instead of parasitic existence, to call all things really "by their proper names", and not to mumble something incomprehensible and streamlined. There are also some stupid people who find in these meaningless phrases - "phrases about nothing" a kind of "golden grain" of "insight" and "truth." The collapse of the Western way of life began with the preaching of an apologist for certain mythical "universal human values" and making them a priority for all European states, calling it the "highest achievement of democracy", instead of national, national-cultural, historical-cultural values, and national-state interests. replacing all these national, cultural values ​​by the primacy of following the dictate of a certain "law", "code-set of rules and regulations" which, allegedly, will be "justly" established by the "best" members of society through the "all-European" parliament. It was beautiful “on paper”, but in reality, it was clear who and how they got into this parliament and they don’t care about the interests of the “healthy” part of society, the main thing for them is to ensure the implementation of the rules and laws that are beneficial, first of all, to themselves. Europe, following the "lead" of these little guys, is heading straight for a cultural abyss, subsequent disintegration and a humanitarian catastrophe.
    20. +1
      3 December 2014 09: 43
      What can I talk about? In the UK, one of the most popular names for boys nowadays is Mohammed, what else can I talk about? As far as I understand, guys with the name of Mohammed are by no means honored by the Pope ... Europe is drowning in its own tolerance and permissiveness on the one hand and tough suppression of everything of what were the fundamental values ​​until recently. So, most likely, the patient will get a little shaken and quiet down forever.
    21. LIS91
      +3
      3 December 2014 09: 48
      Francis must be respected for not being afraid to talk about long-overdue problems, despite the fact that this does not comply with the principles of the EP
    22. +2
      3 December 2014 10: 23
      Ah yes the pope, in such a difficult time, the church was on top of progress. Bravo. Not expected.
    23. +3
      3 December 2014 10: 29
      Pope Francis openly, at the highest level, admitted that Civilization in Europe is on the decline. Thank Him for the truth.
    24. +1
      3 December 2014 12: 02
      And dad well done and Oleg! Both are good.
    25. +1
      3 December 2014 12: 51
      And Dad is a hammer! )))
      Only a question not only for Europe. Look around. Around people buried in the screens of tablets and smartphones. Headphones stick out in my ears. Often on the face is a mask, bandana. Top hood. Unwashed, unshaven.
      Piercings and tattoos. Dressed in black jackets, black boots and all black.
      Maximum dyed hair. We must somehow stand out from the crowd with the same iPhones and smartphones.
      Black people with black thoughts. How to live, survive and survive !!!
      Surprisingly, this is called democracy and a developed society. Sure!
      Well, cars. Loneliness on wheels in traffic jams.
      A liter of gasoline is said to burn out 9000 liters of air. It's worth it?
      As a religion, everyone is offered football.
      Gay and lesbian people are offered as examples of relationships and families.
      How clear and understandable the idea of ​​socialism and communism was against this background!
      Work, perspective, education, idea, development, ....
      How all this is now easily dismissed by the current multinational state thieves. Our elite here is just a model and a symbol of mockery of the people.
    26. +2
      3 December 2014 14: 11
      A stupid question:
      How can lesbians and homosexuals be believers?
      It is forbidden by all religions.
      1. +2
        3 December 2014 15: 04
        Religions are different, some even allow people to eat ...
    27. +1
      3 December 2014 16: 56
      Everything is very simple. Business and nothing personal. The Vatican is massively losing its electorate. Recognition of same-sex marriages, marches and parades of sodomites, absolute silence and inaction on the organized chaos of juvenile justice, complete indifference during the massacres in Europe, east and north Africa unleashed by wars there, passivity of the primary cells and the central apparatus to condemn all other bacchanalia, leads to the understanding of true Christian believers that this party has departed from the foundations of its political program, which they once proclaimed the Bible. As a result, Mankind is more hopefully turning its eyes to true spiritual centers that stand for the preservation of peace, love and help to one's neighbor, the protection of family values, the preservation and development of both mono and multicultural ties ...
      Vatican shares are getting cheaper faster than oil, ruble and hryvnia. Board of Directors led by dad in a panic. Messages from the largest branches are catastrophic: a request was received from the English branch - they cannot baptize children, there are no St. Mohammed in the saints' directories; from France they cannot consecrate the Parisian Christmas tree since the Orthodox have already consecrated it when they donated and set it (the budget of the diocese is empty, the remnants went to support the villagers after the sanctions of Russia) ...
      I will not list the numerous religious changes of Western celebrities that have become known to the general public, but I think that having multiplied this thousand by 10 ordinary mortal parishioners, we will understand the true state of things in the Vatican’s personnel department.
      This is the first loud "Help!" sounded in Europe. And what kind of echo it will have - it's scary to think ... A hypocritical society with double standards, depersonalizing national self-identities, and obsolete spiritual institutions ... wow, after rereading the line - this is a zombie, for which their "cinema art" prepares, and their monkey king.
    28. +1
      3 December 2014 18: 52
      It was well said ...
      Europe is a tired and unviable old woman
      . Maybe all this is business, but today even businessmen afraid they say what is right !!!
    29. +1
      3 December 2014 21: 22
      - So it turns out - it was not in vain that the Inquisition tried ... They covered the office, and then over there it got divorced and fed up!
      - Let’s light, gentlemen? smile
      1. 0
        4 December 2014 10: 03
        Quote: saygon66
        - Let’s light, gentlemen?

        By all means. And one of the LGBT people must be invited to the light. am
    30. 0
      3 December 2014 23: 35
      Everything is very simple . For those who want to know what will happen to Europe in the foreseeable future - see the History of Ancient Rome from about 100 of our era.
    31. Marko
      0
      4 December 2014 04: 03
      yes yes yes, and kaaanechna, the West rots and decays, and all there are gay, and judging by the cries of Russian officials, they suffered the most from it, poor .....
    32. +2
      4 December 2014 05: 45
      He knows what he says. The main thing in his words, in my opinion, is the mention of money as the idol of modern Europeans. He speaks of the cult of mass consumption as the main problem that led to such a state of European society. Exhausted by satiety Europe has lost its spirituality, because a person who puts material goods at the forefront kills his soul. In such a society there is no place for love, consent, mutual respect, only cold material calculation. He talks about the spiritual death of many Europeans. He perfectly understands that each person should strive to be a spirit stronger than the body, which desires to endlessly eat, but tastier, sleep more, enjoy every day. And although I understand that there are probably few Orthodox people here, I will nevertheless give some facts that reflect the spiritual the state of the Orthodox population of Russia and the Catholic population in Europe. I think everyone knows that Orthodox people "keep" fasts, this happens four times a year, for about a month. During this time, a person greatly humbles his flesh, refusing meat, dairy products, and other delicacies, leaving cereals, vegetables, fruits, unleavened bread, also refuses unnecessary sleep and generally dwells in physical labor and prayer. With such labors, the Orthodox Christian comes to the conclusion that the body ceases to dominate the soul, it no longer wants to eat so much, it wants to sleep, but does not sleep, but gets up a little light. It is not bodily desires and lusts that tell a person what to do, but the soul, and the deeds of such people are very different. I say with full responsibility that an Orthodox person is able to understand a beggar who has nowhere to sleep and nothing to eat, because he himself knows what a lack of food is and what it means not to sleep for half a night, because he stood for long nights in kneeling prayer. A person who pleases his flesh in everything cannot fully understand this, no matter what he says. This is where the feeling of understanding, compassion for other people is lost. Now let's dwell on Catholicism. There, not eating only meat is a great feat. To start the sacrament of confession and communion, which, for sure, someone has also heard about, it is enough not to eat for 1 hour (!!!) (In Orthodoxy, three days of fasting, on the eve of midnight nothing to eat or drink. I do not mention the prayer rules .) As a result, some European student can look into a bar, order a mug of beer with sausages, consume all this, go to the park, sit for 1 hour, get some air and start the sacrament ...
      Especially terrible are the requests of people of non-traditional orientation to admit them to the church! But this is horrible! These people CANNOT be believers, since they trampled upon God's commandments, the very foundation of this world created by God. I don’t even want to stop at this, I think everything is clear even to an atheist. The pope must have turned his mind from such words from these words, it's disgusting and outrageous to hear.
      In general, the society of spiritually dead and hardened people, homosexuals who adopt children and make them the same as they are perverts, faces an imminent death. Therefore, he calls Europe an old woman, because he sees and knows that she is dying, like a person in old age. Although, as it seems to me, she is not so old, maybe even middle-aged, she simply has such grave spiritual illnesses that predict her a quick death.
    33. +1
      4 December 2014 08: 21
      Papa is not a European, therefore, he knows from the side what is happening there.
    34. 0
      4 December 2014 13: 18
      Keep in mind another fact - Francis certainly knows the story much better than Obama and all the Geyrop leaders combined. And knowing the history, you can understand a lot of things and even foresee them.
    35. 0
      4 December 2014 20: 35
      No one finds that in the photo Pope is extremely similar to Kurginyan?
      Or just it seems to me ???

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