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Future of RussiaThe future of Russia. What is it? The site "Military Review" says a lot about the present, past and tomorrow. And let's think about the day after tomorrow, for it is being laid today. I think the majority who read and comment, people sincerely love their country. At the same time, I do not separate Kyivans or Kazakhstanis who rightly believe that this is their country, because, in my opinion, the concepts of country and state are somewhat different. I would like to see in the comments to my article, in case of disagreement with it, there would be no curses, but logical arguments.

Just want to say that by conviction I am a communist. Not a member of the Communist Party or the Communist Party, namely the Communist. But my faith in the communist idea does not mean at all that I pray to Lenin as an icon or that I am ready to cut off citizens who have other convictions in the name of this idea. And I did not come to this idea at all under the influence of the “Short Course of the CPSU (B)”. People who know a little history, can not deny such a thing as a change of economic formations, and, consequently, capitalism is not the ultimate form of human existence. What kind of society will replace him? You can call it whatever you like, even “merikhlyundizm”, but what is its economic base, will there be classes in it, and what will be the relationship between them? The communist idea gives the answer to these questions, but the apologists of capitalism do not. At least, I haven’t read any intelligible answers about this from our political scientists. There is a theory of the “golden billion”, but it does not suit me much. Neither we nor our children and grandchildren have a place in this billion. And the “billionaires” themselves, if they do not live only for today, understand that there are more others, and there will always be their Attila for their Rome. In my opinion, events in Europe clearly speak about this.

Therefore, I firmly believe that my country and my people, and indeed the whole world, will be able to survive only in conditions of a socialist society. They can say to me: "We have already passed this." Yes, passed. But doesn’t history know cases of regress, isnational socialism in Germany, which brought the world of Schiller, Bach and Einstein, is not a return in the development of humanity? Compare the role of Russia-USSR in the world with its current position. The pseudo-democrats immediately begin to squeal: We fed half the world. ” And now we are feeding the gangster enclave in our own country, and we can’t invent anything smarter. They shouted: “Mighty Volta with rockets”, and now there are really no rockets, and those that do have hurt the Soviet period. Official propaganda, and some gullible citizens, are excitedly rejoicing: “Another pipe was sent to the West and the East”, forgetting that we are robbing our descendants by pumping oil to Europe. Well, the Americans do not pump oil there if they have reserves. I am not an economist, but explain to me in simple human language how the global economic crises affected China, and did the Chinese become worse off? According to the available information, they have increased consumption.

Please tell me what is better: calm confidence in the future of a law-abiding citizen or the presence of a security guard and a video camera in kindergarten, guaranteeing only profits to security companies. Will the capitalist to the detriment of himself, without forcing him by the state, to spend money on the safety of production and manufactured products? No, it will not be what we are convinced of every day. I was not a supporter of Art. 6 of the Constitution of the USSR, and changes in any society are necessary. But not in the direction of regression. Convince me of the opposite, and I will cheerfully hurry along with you to a bright capitalist future.

Yes, it will be hard for us, given that the current “government” simply will not give it away, that the country was robbed once again, that it was not for nothing that Kudrin drove all the money into the United States, but we would do it better now than our descendants would get even more blood and sweat.
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  1. oper66
    +9
    26 August 2011 09: 08
    I fully support the author a good article
    1. His
      +2
      27 August 2011 13: 40
      Remember the end of the 80s, Viktor Tsoi at least. What a longing it was, complete stagnation. Here was the end of the empire, and it was natural. I don’t want to go there, a twofold moral, one thing in the kitchen, another in life. Where then all these main communists disappeared, became business leaders, local leaders, and socialism was paraded from the stands. To hell with your painted communism, in Libya
  2. gans
    +3
    26 August 2011 09: 27
    Kudrin is the most important and does what he wants? Very funny.
    1. zczczc
      0
      26 August 2011 16: 28
      Yeah, and Putin had nothing to do with it; he hadn’t even heard about it.
  3. +5
    26 August 2011 09: 45
    I completely agree. Very much.

    Damn, it turns out I am also a communist?
    1. zczczc
      +6
      26 August 2011 16: 26
      Yes, I am too.

      The ficus is that the modern communist has absorbed more honesty and responsibility for his actions. Over time, the husk in the form of symbolism will fall off, and the truth of love inherent in every Russian will remain.

      Today's communists, cleansed of henchmen and careerists (who have long been sitting in United Russia) are closest to the concept of original Russian morality and law.
      1. +2
        26 August 2011 16: 38
        The main thing is not to let them (EP) back into the Communists, if that, although they will break through)))))))))
        1. zczczc
          +1
          26 August 2011 17: 59
          Due to the lack of self-cleaning, all elites themselves ate themselves. A vivid example is the Roman Empire.
  4. +6
    26 August 2011 09: 48
    Common truths! We as (rephrased) that dog understand everything, only we cannot say (do) anything (yet) !!!
  5. +1
    26 August 2011 10: 05
    You know, won in the states of truism every day. In different colors and under different sauces. And they still share with us. And it works, oddly enough.

    maybe it's time for us to adopt enemy tactics? And hammering truisms, as in Soviet times? Maybe it's not too late.

    The man expressed his opinion. He did it at least beautifully and without streams of dirt or megabrays. I respect you.
    1. zczczc
      0
      26 August 2011 16: 30
      And this is actually our let - it is necessary to declare banal, but honest truths in everything - in politics, economics, society. Now, during the vacillation of the Western system, they will listen to us with double attention.
  6. +2
    26 August 2011 10: 06
    The historical debate between capitalism and socialism is not over yet. In any case, the course of history cannot be stopped. And what will replace capitalism is being laid now. The capitalism that DAMA and RasPUTIN lead us to does not suit me personally and my friends. It seems that many Russians are not happy either.
  7. +5
    26 August 2011 10: 13
    I support the author. Oil and gas are pumped abroad when they run out of money there too. And our descendants will have the economy, living at the expense of already exhausted resources, the absence of these same resources, anger at the fools-ancestors who ... ... passed their legacy. After all, these resources belong both to us and to those generations that have defended the land of the millennium, for the future.
    The theory of the "Golden Billion" is generally something close to fascism and apartheid.

    We must stop thinking about communism, as something ancient, as the decrepit paraphernalia of the elderly. This is not only a batch (like edro). This is an ideology that is really close to everyone. We all want security and confidence in the future, the right to self-realization and the future for children.
    The Communist Party will be what its content is. Communism is ideology, the party is people. There will come patriots whose soul hurts, people will vote for it - and it will have the strength sufficient to save Russia.
    1. -2
      26 August 2011 17: 41
      Communist ideology is a utopia. Absolutely unattainable at this stage of the evolutionary and spiritual development of man.
      1. zczczc
        +2
        26 August 2011 18: 05
        Utopia, of course. Have you ever thought that in order to learn to push up 20 times, you need to set a goal to push up 50 times? Or to make money on a moped, you have to strive to make money on a car?

        Also here. Ideally, I personally want the Communists to win the election, shut down the country for 2 months, catch everyone who stole, shoot everyone who stole more than 5 million rubles, change the leadership of the TV (finally!), And start working, working. ..

        And when everything settles down, then you can simply rename it to something original and continue to live.
        1. SAVA
          -2
          26 August 2011 18: 12
          IT IS BETTER TO CLOSE FOR 10 YEARS, OR AT ALL, ALWAYS REMEMBERING THESE 20 YEARS OF "FREEDOM" !!!
          1. zczczc
            0
            26 August 2011 19: 09
            Moreover, it is only necessary that we have better than abroad. Otherwise, eternal unrest will be inside. And so - the eternal unrest abroad :)
            1. SAVA
              +1
              27 August 2011 01: 25
              RIGHT!! ONLY light industry gunpoint MAKE SEWING and manufactures quality clothing, shoes, children's toys, remember the design, convenience and safety for people, the computer began to produce, automakers -PRIDURKAM dismantled and SHOW TOYOTU- "millionaire" LET Baran thought why people ALL THE WORLD PREFER QUALITATIVE AND CONVENIENT MACHINES, IN GENERAL, ETC. ETC. ALL FOR THE GOOD OF PEOPLE !!!!
              1. zczczc
                +1
                27 August 2011 13: 54
                I’ll tell you a terrible secret how this can be done without a gun barrel - you can allow imports in the amount of not more than 10% of each product group. It will be like an eternal irritant for our manufacturer, but will not bring it down.

                And the government should set a goal for enterprises - to reach a level of quality at which 20% of products are guaranteed to go and then the list of the most developed countries. Those. not to Honduras, but to Germany, for example. And if the enterprise has reached this level, then the government has a special attitude to it - employee benefits, etc., well, you can figure out what kind of candy to lure into a bright future.

                And I don’t need any pistols.
        2. +1
          27 August 2011 03: 12
          Evolutionary processes last tens of thousands of years, spiritual perfection of thousands, do you propose all this time * to push up * and catch opponents of communist ideology? Even the founders of this utopia, recognized that this was impossible in a single country and dreamed about the World Revolution.
          1. zczczc
            0
            27 August 2011 13: 56
            Are you talking about Leib Bronstein, probably? He dreamed of a world revolution for completely different reasons.
            1. +1
              27 August 2011 18: 14
              Cranstein is here, out of business. The idea of ​​the World Revolution belongs to Marx, and Engels substantiated it in his work "The Principles of Communism", they are also the founders of this utopia in its modern interpretation. Look at the historical experience, this ideology does not fit into the framework of the evolutionary and psychological development of a person, the basic postulates: "the priority of society over the individual, the rejection of personal property, the prevalence of public interests over group interests" do not have implementation mechanisms, neither now nor in any foreseeable time perspective. Man by nature is an individualist and owner, which was clearly shown by the result of the experiment called the USSR. Only development in accordance with the ideology of the "Union of Christian Communities of Russia" will ensure peace and prosperity for our Motherland.
      2. Ivan35
        +1
        27 August 2011 22: 45
        On the one hand, yes - but here, for example, considering myself a communist, I do not urge tomorrow to take and cancel the money. Communism is like a lighthouse - a guideline - so that we do not get lost in the fog.

        And you can start with simple and understandable things - reduce by 60% (for example) the cost of yacht villas and oligarch accounts and direct funds to, say, healthcare, education, withdraw part of the funds from financial slavery in the USA, etc.
      3. Volkhov
        0
        19 September 2011 14: 05
        Communism is our near future! In the sense of war communism.
  8. +1
    26 August 2011 10: 17
    Grandma Wang predicted the victory of Socialism.
    And what now is a utopia.
    1. 0
      26 August 2011 10: 21
      And she also predicted the third world war, which will begin imperceptibly, in Arab countries, then poisonous rain (chemical weapons?) Will spill onto Europe and that will become a desert ... And Muslims will win .... Dates seem to converge from the beginnings of hostilities in Libya ...
      Amer, they said, it seems that Gaddafi has a chemical. weapons ...
  9. lokdok
    +3
    26 August 2011 10: 21
    Another attempt to run into power. As in the USSR, the civilized world fought not with the Russians but with the Communists, only after the defeat of the Communists the Russians had to die.
    So it is now - trust such articles, read the State Department blogs, and then climb on the barricades. Why Arabs live badly and will always live badly - yes because barbarians, Anglo-Saxons pit them with their government, then with each other. A little more and we will not be better than them, at 17 we fought with the king, the interim government - killed the Russians, in 91 - with the communist - killed the Russians, and they flourished on our blood. So climb the barricades, fight with your government, the Anglo-Saxons wish you well - they just don't like Putin.
    1. +8
      26 August 2011 10: 34
      I have a question, maybe not quite a topic. Does the West not like Putin, or MAKES a view that it doesn't? After all, Russians always vote contrary to amers and others like them ... So, in the media, Medvedev and Putin have different positions in Libya, for example. Medvedev’s opinion is circulated in the media, foreign policy is fully consistent with him, Putin’s opinion slips once in the morning issue and ... silence ... In nete, of course, they noticed it and informed everyone from under the floor ... - in tandem of the counter .. .
      Medvedev - Putin's protege. The chip is played out that M betrayed P, West against P, supports Medvedev, faithful servants, Putin’s team, turned away from P. Putin, realizing that everyone betrayed him, decided to lean on the people and convenes the Popular Front .....
      Putin’s betrayal by Medvedev suggests that he poorly selects both staff and friends .... if it’s true, then how does he rule the country, even if he put a potential traitor as a protege ....
      The second option, more believable - the media lie that the tandem is falling apart, the tandem says the TRUTH. they are friends. And cleverly act out the good, Russian people, who always patronize the offended and destitute ... Putin will come to power. But Medvedev will wait his turn, or go into the shadows. There will be another one of the same.
      This is the knowledge that the Russians will always be for someone whose position is weaker used against them. How is it - the West of OUR PRESIDENT is REPENDED? !!! FOR PUTIN !!!!!!!
      1. Superduck
        +3
        26 August 2011 11: 20
        And you are smart!
        In general, I have convinced myself several times that multiprogramming is played out, but everything turns out to be easier in life, Russia does not need complex multiproducts, everything in her life is described by simpler rules, because it’s actually difficult to defeat it, I say this as a system engineer, a professional. Most likely, as before, all differences are regulated by the balances of the centers of influence. At the moment, I think that these centers of influence are economic in nature and not political. Since none of the high-profile statements of either Putin or Medvedev resulted in political decisions, it’s not worth talking about that it’s all deeper than the games of the tech experts. Elections, there will be many statements, few actions, especially for domestic politics, even the gas war with Kiev will be a fake in the winter, its course and resolution will be initially agreed upon by the parties.
        1. +5
          26 August 2011 12: 07
          I try to reduce everything to an equation - who benefits from this action, who gets what, and what is the sum of the equations.
          Quote: SuperDuck
          At the moment, I think that these centers of influence are economic in nature and not political.
          - for sure. Politics is for us mortals. The Rothschilds and others rule the world, it’s advantageous to put up weapons - the war between the poor Arabs (Caucasians, Africans, Afghans), The main thing is then, to pump oil in this chaos (to mine diamonds, supply weapons, produce drugs and keep people in fear).
          If not an iron curtain, then at least complete economic independence is needed. And we have a Central Bank-Rothschild ... The article about "Who controls Russia" went almost unnoticed, but in vain. We must start with this. Otherwise, no weapon will save ...
          1. remserves
            +3
            26 August 2011 15: 12
            I am pleased to read the conversation of smart people. In this regard, I would like to know why no one will ask the question (of those that have been voiced here) to our leaders during press conferences with which they delight people a couple of times a year, Well, for example, what will we heat the country with, some 30 years from now, the Germans have gas buy? Information on the topic: a couple of years ago in the Hub. cr in the village between the hub. and Comso. gas bills came (I don’t remember how much, but very much) people stopped drinking, gathered for a gathering, called officials from the region, asked what kind of garbage? Clerks shrug their hands, it turned out that the pipe and gas in it belong to the Shtatovskaya (!) Company of those that Sakhalin1 or 2, and they tell us who to sell poker to us at state prices. A special joke (even two) is that the pipe was laid by the construction organizations of the region and handed over to Gazprom, (it looks like for money), the second joke: at that time it rushed from each brainwashing box that we were selling gas to Ukraine and Belarus at preferential prices. The enemy is already here.
            1. +1
              26 August 2011 16: 50
              It is unlikely that such a question will pass. When we have such a conference, the square is cordoned off, let in with questions prepared in advance like "Oh, how good, and even better when will it be?"
              By the fact that you told me generally shock ... Poor people ... it’s good to talk to someone who didn’t get into such a binding ..
            2. SAVA
              +1
              26 August 2011 17: 51
              AND ONE MORE HAVE TO BE LOOKED BY WHO MORE THAN NORMAL PEOPLE OR ENEMIES OF OWN HOMELAND AND PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. zczczc
        0
        26 August 2011 16: 34
        Well essno this game between them is done by agreement. Spectacle.
      3. Michael
        +1
        26 August 2011 21: 04
        I agree that the GDP is not two-core, and given what it got from the "slightly screwed up" - all efforts were thrown into saving the remnants of industrial production and saving the country from collapse, BUT! - this is where there was a shortage of personnel and its consequences have to be taken into account now. While the GDP was saving the country, some "firmly" cleaned it (the country) and are now pushing through their henchmen, and money is known to greatly spoil relations between people. Some of the ideas of a giraffe (he knows better) Prokhorov can give THEIR concept of the arrangement of the country ...
      4. Dovmont
        +1
        26 August 2011 21: 21
        Rzhunimagu !! Medvedev betrayed Putin !!! Yes, this is "two boots - a pair" in the role of an evil and kind policeman. Both of them ate from the hands of O. Deripasko, both serve the interests of the oligarchic capital. And the fact that they sometimes express opposite views on one of the issues is political games.
    2. keng
      +1
      26 August 2011 10: 35
      Is it better to peck shit - and not to tweet? No ! The Russian people will not endure chaos for a long time. It has historically happened that in Russia it is constantly either revolution, then popular uprising, or rebellion. And as for hitting power - what the hell is power?
    3. zczczc
      0
      26 August 2011 16: 32
      Calling to be tolerant of the golden billion?
      Thank you, dear, we'll figure it out ourselves.
  10. Sanzyro
    +1
    26 August 2011 10: 28
    It seems to me that the roles have changed ... Socialism has long been there - beyond the hill, and we have a wild, unbridled world of clean and profit, that is, capitalism! Well, and what do we do now? What should anyone prove? Do we strive for capitalism with a human face or continue to build what we are building now (I can’t come up with a name, there are no analogues either) ??
    1. keng
      +5
      26 August 2011 10: 42
      "(I can't think of a name, there are no analogues either) ??" - and the name is probably there. This is ----- BANDITSKO THIEFS UPYRISM .------- And you do not need to strive for capitalism, it has disqualified itself all over the world. And even more so with us. Communism is a utopia. Most likely, socialism must be built.
      1. zczczc
        +1
        26 August 2011 16: 36
        We need to build what we need, but let someone else decide on the name :)
        No need to copy the set of features strictly from one or another model - you need to combine and find the optimum for themselves, for the country.
  11. Aktium
    +4
    26 August 2011 10: 50
    What is called capitalism in modern Russia is actually a colonial economy. The export of raw materials to the "metropolis" and the import of cheap goods. In this case, synthetic food, Chinese consumer goods, etc.
    Socialism is also different. If we proceed from the position of the author of the article, then the socialism that Lenin and Stalin built seemed to be bad, as well as the developed socialism of Brezhnev, and it was then that a time bomb was laid. Absolute internationalism and the blurring of boundaries between classes (within the country). But I know for sure that among, for example, blacks, parasites are much larger than among Russians or Ukrainians, and Jews mainly worked in the USSR as dentists, writers, humorists, etc. actors (still different cultural figures, who were misunderstood as "the Soviet intelligentsia). In China and North Korea, there is also socialism. And in Cuba. And even in Libya (there was) - although it was called the" third way "Jamahiriya.
    And Germany was National Socialism.
    And what kind of socialism do we need?
    There are no classes in Russia now. There are amorphous "bourgeois" and all the rest.
    There are no organizations that can become the basis of a new government.
    We live in a swamp - something happens in the depths, but on the surface only smelly bubbles and frogs croak.
    Yes, I agree, with the Soviets of the 70s and 80s, we ran down the street almost until midnight, and now it’s scary to let the child go until 10 pm Yes, there was social security and everything was cheap and the products were quality.
    But where did it all go? After all, the 91-year coup was carried out not by mythical freemasons or imperialists, but by the most Soviet people. Moreover, the Communists. And even more so, the leaders of the CPSU. Everyone curses Yeltsin. But he is alone I couldn’t do anything. There was the support of many communists.
    And the current government is quite often the former communists and Komsomol members, Soviet people.
    In general, the author is in many ways right, but questions must be posed differently.
    1) More important is not the economic structure, but the socio-political;
    2) To change the future, you need to change the present, that is, change the form of power;
    3) To change the form of power, we need an Idea and Organization.
    4) How to create an Organization if the Society is divided into pseudo-classes of pensioners, teachers, doctors, motorists, officials, cops and so on?
    Who will solve these problems?
    Money, after all, is just a means, and quite cheap - paper and paint. But Progress and Civilization cannot be bought for any money.
    1. -1
      26 August 2011 10: 59
      That’s the result! Ales, checkmate !!! belay And then the lower classes can not top do not want! Or vice versa!! angry wink
    2. zczczc
      0
      26 August 2011 16: 40
      Young people feel very good mood, ether, if I may say so. So, in the 80s, more scum and scum than Komsomol I have not seen. And my feelings were justified - I took an interest in the fate of some - who dumped in the USA, who in Srul, who works in a bank. Nobody puts their backs on the country, they are all hangers-on.

      And this is a miscalculation of whom? Berzhnev. The omission of the future he made.
      I remember the "bad" Stalin with eternal purges ...
  12. -3
    26 August 2011 11: 15
    The world of the future is cross-border and supranational. Active work is now underway in this direction. New sources of energy and nutrition, as well as the lack of geographic location, will make a person independent. 40-50 years and all this will come true. The question is how many people will be able to enter this world. 7 billion or 1 or 10 million. This will be decided now. Russia is today an outsider. That's all. Think!
    1. Gur
      +1
      26 August 2011 11: 26
      Utopia ... never to be like that .. on earth there are fewer places of comfortable living than violence .. this situevina is possible only if a global cataclysm occurs on earth.
      1. -1
        26 August 2011 11: 35
        You are very mistaken! Take a look around! About Nautilus Jules Verne said the same thing. And what I stated above is not sucked out of my finger. New technologies enter our lives every day. Maybe not in Russia. But in the developed Stars everywhere. Net consciousness is no longer utopia
        1. +4
          26 August 2011 11: 54
          Managing network consciousness is easiest. Especially if it is semi-unconscious, as it is now. They threw a misinformation that Russia was bombing Tskhinval, and everyone believed. Ay-ah-ah. Cadffy - Tyrant Bomb It!
          First you need self-awareness what would be, the differentiation of good from bad, what is the use of technology, if people are mindlessly absorbing everything that is now.
          The easiest thing now is to be plants. It is possible and network.
          And yet - that will turn off the electricity - we will be sitting stupidly in front of the monitors. Everything. Chaos!
          1. zczczc
            0
            26 August 2011 16: 47
            They showed a strong village somewhere in the depths of Russia. The report, in fact, was not about the fortress of the village, but its problems - there is no road, only 2 TV channels, no Internet.

            So, it was the isolation that kept him strong, oddly enough. So strong that a local private entrepreneur (grain is grown there) invested his money in a hospital in the village and explained: "There will be no hospital, there will be no school, no club - there will be no my village either."

            Conclusions:
            1. The lack of communication with central Russia has helped to maintain its identity;
            2. The lack of visitors helped to keep the local government and private business in the hands of patriots;
            3. They themselves do not understand their good - they will get roads, TV, the Internet - all young people will run away from them at once, but "investors" will come running, who will buy up all the land and Ugandoshay all the originality;
            4. The federal center directly or indirectly, but actually razorzitsya village, because by state the hospital needed to be closed there, not repaired.
            1. +1
              26 August 2011 17: 03
              Well done man, what to say, this is self-awareness. A man feels responsible for his village ...
        2. Gur
          +3
          26 August 2011 11: 56
          Do not confuse technological progress with the progress of a multicultural world, as long as there is a dependence on natural resources and on territories of comfortable living from a geographical location, you will not get rid of it. I think we’re already bored of eating chemistry, but there is not much fertile land .. and the food crisis, as practice shows, is only growing .. and we have not yet invented an eternal lover of science fiction
          1. -1
            27 August 2011 13: 27
            I didn’t confuse anything. And the conversation is not about fiction. Everything has been decided long ago. Both technologies are necessary, and we have been eating high-yielding genetically-defective products for a long time. Just come to a new nirvana so simply will not succeed. We'll have to go through wars, disasters and epidemics for 40-50 years so that what we are discussing here is not essential. God is not the one who controls - God is the one who sets the development algorithms and creates the living environment.
        3. 0
          26 August 2011 12: 13
          Someday, of course, all nations assimilate. There is probably nothing wrong with this and this is inevitable, but there is the concept of Homeland, maybe a Small Homeland. a person will always be pulled to where he was born. Even if there is Siberia or the desert of sugar. There are concepts stronger than the love of comfort. And not everywhere technology will save.
          From expression
          Quote: Forward
          in developed starn
          already the negative appears. It looks like these countries are developing only to rob their "undeveloped" neighbors ..
          1. zczczc
            +1
            26 August 2011 16: 49
            My great-grandmother used to say that one of the signs of the end of the world would be "when all nations mix."
            1. 0
              26 August 2011 16: 57
              Nothing, the Russians are not afraid of anything. And our genes will probably be transmitted in large numbers. We break through;))) There will be a big Russian world in spirit.
              1. zczczc
                0
                26 August 2011 17: 31
                Do you see a lot of Russians on television?
                Or in the subway: http://uncle-v0va.livejournal.com/87564.html - I see this every day.

                The maximum number of foreigners for successful assimilation is 2,5%.
        4. +1
          26 August 2011 19: 20
          Since when has Russia become an undeveloped country?
    2. +2
      26 August 2011 11: 45
      You describe the dreams of the United States, it is they who want to rule the whole globe, and the borders of states interfere with them.
      Our task is to fight this.
    3. zczczc
      +1
      26 August 2011 16: 42
      And I do not want to live without reference to my geographical place. And so that those who think so, do not run into my territory, for this we need weapons.
    4. +1
      26 August 2011 19: 19
      This is probably why countries are fragmenting more and more.
      1. zczczc
        +1
        26 August 2011 23: 19
        Those. do you think it is necessary to mix sharply in order not to split up? Let me remind you - under the USSR, the degree of mixing of peoples was much less than the current one. Disproportionately.

        Moreover, all these peoples were united and lived together. In order to be inextricably water with someone, you do not need to make a common hut from an apartment building. You just need to respect each other, help, but not interfere with each other's own culture.
  13. Gur
    +8
    26 August 2011 11: 16
    I don’t even know how to comment on this article .. in my youth, the system that existed in the USSR suited me (although as I already wrote .. I was puzzled by the lack of products and all that ... although the whole country worked .. hellish and overfulfill, filling bins) I sincerely believed that we would live to see communism, I knew people who really were communists .. although everything human is not alien to them. And I know people who were also communists and now successful functionaries. I lived and believed that in that chain of Octobrists, a pioneer, a Komsomol member, a communist .. I will reach the end, but alas it did not happen. I recall .. the first putsch and the State Emergency Committee, the first reaction is a shock .. then it is completely indifferent ... the belief that the reverse course in history is not possible. Now I'm sorry about that ... I'm sorry that my fault is in this. Guilt in my tacit consent to what is happening. Then there was developed capitalism .. when the loot strewed down the river .. then the eyes began to open .. when the state gradually disappeared or was replaced by commercial .. they began to open wider and wider with surprise and delight. A country producing oil .. tells me that there is no fuel .. and the price of fuel is on a par with countries that do not produce oil. When there is no where suddenly we have hundreds of varieties of sausages and cheeses .. when more than half the horn. cattle were cut back in the 90s. There are no large producers such as collective farms ... When the power plants .. built by the people essentially go into private hands, and the price of electric energy will also soon reach the world level. When seriously discussing the increase in hours of work and retirement. When something that I was proud of and thought it would remain for centuries .. the victory of our people in the war cannot be misrepresented .. moreover, not only by Westerners but also by their own. We understand that in this country something needs to be changed. Yes, there is a danger of rolling back and much back .. voluntarily those snickering cattle .. they will not give up power. Although they also understand with their minds that they will not be able to go on like this for a long time .. and have prepared places for themselves in reserve. But I don’t understand .. how to do it all .. bring communists to power ??? what will it give us ?? Zyuganov may also be a smart man .. but he is missing something ... he needs a young, honest and loving homeland man, with his chorism not inferior to Putin's. And then what ?? Privatization towards the state of all natural resources and industries ?? So the current owners .. either they won’t give up so easily ... or scatter like cockroaches taking away all the assets of it all. How easy we all are and how difficult it is now to return it all. How does anyone know give an answer!
    1. +3
      26 August 2011 11: 33
      You wrote everything correctly. You described what all the people felt then. This is the answer to why what happened in 91.
      I can only add that often people talked about seeing fields littered with sausage while shelves in stores were empty. It was wrecking.
      And Zyuganov is an intelligent and restrained person, if he had been more energetic he would have been removed by the authorities a long time ago. That there would be no competition. Zyuganov waited for years, often ridiculed, fought as best he could. The Communist Party in general could be declared an enemy and cover up ... We needed a moment until people themselves mature. I don’t want propaganda, but Putin had a lot of time to show himself, I don’t believe him anymore. And why do we need charisma? We need the right solutions. We must not repeat the path of the amers, who are pushing actors with empty heads and charisma into government places.
      And it seems to me that they really hammered that there are no turning back. On the contrary, society is full of capitalism. The bourgeois layer is minuscule. It is necessary to decide what is better for the people and not for them. enough for them. And so they bought up half the world.
    2. -1
      26 August 2011 11: 40
      All right Breaking is much easier than building. And those who are now sitting on pipes with Russian raw materials just will not give up this place. For this purpose, it will be necessary to BLOOD with a capital letter. And it’s good if only the Russian people are satisfied with it, and not orange monkeys bought for dollars. And the leader is needed. I think / hope that from 140 million there is one.
  14. gans
    +2
    26 August 2011 11: 35
    a pipe bypassing ukriya is very good, when gas runs out in Russia, it will end in other countries. As for oil and Pindos, it’s like that, they save their oil because there are so many suckers on earth who dream of getting green pieces of paper in exchange for some kind of value
    1. lokdok
      +1
      26 August 2011 12: 33
      The USA is second in the world (after Saudi Arabia) in oil production, Russia is third
  15. lokdok
    +2
    26 August 2011 12: 30
    Our country needs a calm, steady development without wars and revolutions, but the West and our 5th column will not leave the country alone. For example, the country developed ideally under Brezhnev, all the factories that we now use were built in those days. But the fifth column called that time stagnation. Same thing now - are you hungry? Not dressed? Computers are low-power? Is the car small? Work, buy better. Or do you want to fish in troubled waters during the revolution? In Libya, the standard of living was very high, but with the help of the West and traitors, the country is driven into the Middle Ages.
    But in general:
    GDP is growing - it means power is working, GDP is falling power needs to be changed
    1. +1
      26 August 2011 12: 41
      lokdok, I support you.

      Man will never get enough of existing benefits - it’s arranged like that.
    2. +2
      26 August 2011 13: 02
      About the revolution - there are many who want to raise the powers that be. BUT the revolution - that force that can become uncontrollable or even worse - it can be directed in the direction that the West needs or can be used somehow. Therefore, if you go out with slogans, then only politically clear icon-specific. But it’s better not to — the provocateurs are full .. they are pulled around the corner by the police and pozhalst — a bloody strike, or by demonstrators — pozhalst — a violation of human rights with all the consequences ... The West is applauding ...
      But to sit and rejoice at what is (for now) that is ... somehow disgusting .... Therefore, whoever has enough "satiety" - sit. You don't even have to go to the polls. Automatic voice in the EP will go ...
      To whom it is not enough to "eat, shit, laugh" vote in the elections.
      And GDP growth is an abstract value, if it is not confirmed by working social programs and improving the life of the population, the growth of technology, etc.
      1. lokdok
        +1
        26 August 2011 13: 18
        What do you want besides, "eat, shit, laugh"? Have not tried to give birth to children, find a husband, buy a dacha, go for mushrooms? What more do you want? Or do you want power?
        How should it be confirmed by "working social programs and the improvement of the population's life, the growth of technology"? So today I went to the children's clinic, and it is closed - there is a major overhaul, and our clinic is now in another building. This is bad? Or is it good?
        And what technologies should you grow? Have you seen the T-50? Into space more than all launches. Or is it not technology?
        1. +3
          26 August 2011 13: 32
          Does that mean enough for you? Propaganda of lack of will and apathy? Yes, you, my friend, United Russia, it seems, apathetic with such a fuse would not answer.))
          It's better not to remember about launches into space after 2 crashes of Progress ... bitterly
          T-50, I hope I will see, but have you seen the Knights? Well done, guys, really, but some bigwig looked at their base, which means we can no longer see ...
          About
          Quote: lokdok
          They didn’t try to give birth to children, find a husband, buy a cottage, go for mushrooms?
          , they reminded me of one politician before the election - he was crucifying himself to us, then students, how much they had done for young people ... I asked, what exactly? I heard something like this ... do women's affairs in politics, do not meddle.
          All then, as one, the teachers also said: - So, there was nothing to say ... (I softened it), they doubted his mental and mental ability. Would you send a man for fishing? Or for women? Or a sandbox for children? I have everything, and land on which I plow after work, otherwise I can’t live on a salary, my husband and the forest are nearby (though without mushrooms). And with children the issue is being resolved. But that is none of your business.
          Quote: lokdok
          So today I went to the children's clinic, and it is closed - there is a major overhaul, and our clinic is now in a different building. This is bad? Or is it good?
          This is good, because not everyone has the opportunity to take the child to the clinic. In small punches, medical care departments are hiding behind, being taken to distant lands.
    3. zczczc
      +2
      26 August 2011 19: 15
      lokdok, unplug the pipes out and see how GDP grows.

      I beg you, the sale of books, dishes and furniture from your own apartment cannot be considered enrichment! Our people are robbing our government, does this really require any evidence?

      If they invested every ton of oil sold in domestic construction, I still understand. And then, this is still selling his own. But they invest in the country 20 percent, God forbid. According to some estimates, 10-15%. The rest is dragging out of the country in the form of a placement in the west of a stabilization fund, stolen on personal accounts.

      Open your eyes. Or are you satisfied with 10-15% of the sold?
  16. Max
    Max
    +3
    26 August 2011 12: 35
    * ... forgetting that pumping oil to Europe, we are robbing our descendants. *

    It’s okay that these same oil and gas lifted the country off its knees and allowed it to pay off all its debts ... Also, do not forget that the role of oil is decreasing every day. In 10 years, electric cars or all kinds of hybrids will ride everywhere ...
    1. +3
      26 August 2011 13: 11
      And also to make the country a raw materials appendage, let me add ...
      And who put her on her knees? Who handed over the economy to the Rothschilds? Who s / x dropped?
      Quote: max
      In years through 10 electric cars or all kinds of hybrids will go everywhere

      And electricity, of course, can be generated both by wind, and by the power of tides, and by atomic energy, and at hydroelectric power stations, but ... developed Europe has not yet reduced the demand for oil and gas, we may also think about it ... Heating houses with electricity is too energy-intensive task , and most of our territories (in contrast to the same Europe) are in harsh lands. Have you even known the Ural winters? (I am silent in Siberia). People freezing in the villages will not care who rides there. And what about the state debt. How money is spent - on a grand scale is already a parable in languages. http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2011/08/04_a_3723229.shtml
      1. lokdok
        +1
        26 August 2011 13: 21
        “Do you at least know the Ural winters? (I am silent in Siberia). People who freeze in villages will not care who rides in cars there.” You probably do not know, but people in the “villages” are heated with firewood. And 20 years ago we sawed everything by hand, but now the chainsaw costs a penny.
        1. +2
          26 August 2011 13: 46
          Laughing, I’m just in the know. ))))))))
          Heating with wood is quite expensive and troublesome. They still need to be bought, delivered. bring, cut, chop, fold into pollenitsa, In winter, dig up a path to a woodpile. Bring it into the house, dry it (if you have not stocked up dry), warm up the stove, i.e. first "we drown the street", then watch it, so that it does not smoke, does not go out, that it would get crazy. The oven must also be cleaned. I don't know?)))))))))))))
          If you have gas, it is worth a lot to convert heating for firewood. Do you agree, personally, to cut firewood? A penny chainsaw? Where are we going to get gasoline? So the whole forest and go to cut. Have you ever seen poaching plots? Now, in connection with fires, it will probably become cheaper. Burned areas are visible, they sell inexpensively. And then? The average price of 5 thousand per car (5 cubes) compare with the pension of a grandmother. And it still needs to be sawed, thrashed. Plus so much.
          But, you know, there is such an option as gasification. Gas lead. For good money of course. They will bring gas to all the backward villages, collect money, and then they will pass by on the punishments.
          And people will have to get used to the good again to return to the wood ... here you have your technology.
        2. Gur
          0
          26 August 2011 14: 18
          And I look like a guy is a village mlyn .... with manicure and a thin cigarette ... you go try a penny saw then you drank .. or use an ax to help .. maybe it’ll grow in your brain with your bicep. In general, women / girl explained to you more intelligibly.
          1. lokdok
            +1
            26 August 2011 14: 49
            And I look at your snobbery and rushing, I will drink and wave with an ax. This is not in your Moscow to eat, sleep, and arrange revolutions.

            “You still need to buy them, bring them in. Bring them in, saw them off, chop them, put them in pollenitsa, In the winter, dig up a path to the woodpile.” But don't they do that now? There may be gas in the "villages" in the Moscow region, but in Pskov only now they began to supply cities of regional significance (We were not needed in the union, then they were building the Baltic states, and we went to them for sausage).
            "The average price of 5 thousand per car (5 cubic meters) is compared with the grandmother's pension. And it still needs to be sawed, beaten." 5 thousand - this is already sawed and chipped and this is for a year, 5/12 = 416 rubles per month. - In the city, grandmothers pay more for heating-)))
            One must first get used to the good, if gas is delivered to each village, then one must rejoice. What does not suit you then.
            1. +2
              26 August 2011 15: 19
              Dear, let's stay in the discussion.
              lokdok - Illogical. They will carry out gas. And then he will not. Resources are not unlimited. That's it, only now they began to carry out. While they spend ... gas is getting more expensive.
              Firewood prices vary by region. I do not live in the Moscow region. We will not argue. For some reason, our prices are higher. Maybe the intermediaries take more margins ...
              You agree to pump gas to Europe, although you agree that Russia itself has just started gasification at home. You agree that the Russians need to saw and chop, and Europe should live like a human. "Grandmothers in the city pay more for heating." But the amount for heating is made up of the intrinsic value of the gas price. The prices at which they sell it to us.
              Nobody calls for revolution, I already wrote above what this is fraught with.
              You just need to raise your head and look around. Do not believe anyone, just think that it is beneficial to whom, where it goes. To be a patriot, one must not be a URA-PATRIOT.
              What do I want? Resources for the people, low-cost gasoline, police, which will become as before a guarantee of security, and not sadists in uniform, so that gas is available to grandmothers in the village, and not drown by firewood, so that state money is not cut into yachts, but to people of the state so that pensioners do not sit on the porch, even roads, kindergartens in which there will be no mass poisoning, schools and universities without bribes, an army without hazing ..... And you, what do you want?
              If your position in life suits you, this is your right. But give this right to others.
              1. lokdok
                +1
                26 August 2011 16: 14
                If you don’t sell gas to Europe now, then how much money to carry out exploration and development of new fields and carry gas to small towns. The private population is now paying a penny for gas (for example, I am 43 rubles per month).
                “You agree to pump gas to Europe, although you agree that Russia itself has just started gasification at home.” This is how it started and I want to continue.
                "But the amount for heating is made up of the intrinsic value of the gas price." Not only for gas. But inflated utility rates are a separate issue.
                "What do I want? ..." I also want everyone to be rich and healthy, about sadists in uniform - you don't need one size fits all, run to them as soon as something happens. For gas to the village - not grandmothers should live there, but strong families - and this is not only money, but also an image - all professions must be respected. Only those who are drunkards and have not worked all their lives are sitting on the porch. Each of the questions are roads, children. gardens, etc. can be discussed. In some, from my point of view, a lot is being done wrong, but I will repeat "THERE MUST BE A PLANOMATIC PROGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT", and not break this world to the ground and build a new one.
                1. 0
                  26 August 2011 16: 34
                  I am not talking about not selling gas and oil at all. I’m saying that this money should be invested in the development of Russia, and not invest in foreign countries, and honestly, without kickbacks and theft. Then, over time, it will be possible to reduce the level of supplies to Europe, she, mother, and so have lived quite well due to the Russian Vani. You know, there were cases when our oil rigs at sea were leased to amers, and we still paid them for it? Someone got a kickback.
                  My (and not only) vision - there is a systematic rolling down of the country to a raw materials appendage, ready for sharing and sold people. What do you think, in 20 years, could an economy be established already? I thought that everything was normalizing, that it was necessary to give the authorities time .... I was finally convinced - the elections were so cynical that the authorities loyal to their people couldn’t do that .... I thought earlier that everything was slowly getting better, now I see, it's just getting used to the bad.
                  I see that I can not convince you, I myself was the same recently ... Until you yourself want to .. Therefore. Sorry, but I will no longer discuss with you ..
                  1. lokdok
                    +2
                    26 August 2011 17: 21
                    That's what they invest (maybe a little) - you look at the share of machinery and equipment in the import structure.
                    “Do you know that there were cases when our oil rigs in the sea were leased to amers, and we still paid them for it?” I know. And they were taken away only 6 years ago. Is this not the merit of the authorities? This was not a rollback - but a betrayal, a constitution written by the hands of the Americans. And these are traitors - Gorbachev and Yeltsin and Co.
                    "How do you think it would be possible to improve the economy in 20 years?" 20 years ago, the economy was just beginning to be destroyed.
                    1. Gur
                      +1
                      27 August 2011 07: 58
                      That's it import !!!!! And how much can this import ?? because almost from toilet paper to aircraft carriers we buy ... and our own everything is getting weaker and weaker. Because it’s more profitable to buy and import to bureaucrats than to start production, since the bablos is more in hands. I do not even want to give an example of the USSR when factories were built in 10 years. Current analysts screamed and screamed .. that they say komunyaki sold all the tsar's gold and jewelry to the west .. so even though this gold came back to the people with the toric. And now ??? And analysts are silent about this. Traitors not only Gorbachev and EB, but now they are sooooo much. So I think that it is necessary to cancel the article on the criminal immunity of both the head of the country and his team. Accordingly, at the end of the term of office, to be able to present his claims to this gentleman, as well as to deprive them of the opportunity to travel for permanent residence over a hill. (Probably, the presidential candidates will also decrease) Hey, how they cheated and live. And then ask from such as Ivanov, Serdyukov, Chubais, etc., etc. .. and according to merit and punishment.
                    2. Ivan35
                      +1
                      27 August 2011 23: 07
                      I read your entire discussion with interest - the topic is enough for a living. Sorry - it looks like an advertisement - but the books are really literate - we have already discussed them here with our comrades on the site - I highly recommend Sergey Kara Murza - I probably can’t find a more competent analysis of how we lived and how we live now. You can take any of his books.
                      I myself am against rocking the boat - I agree that progressive development is necessary and any revolution (even communist) will now be supported by pendos joy!
                      I think that Putin has done a lot to stop the collapse of Russia, nationalized a number of strategic directions, Gazprom and laying gas in Russia's regions is one of them, removed the entire group of oligarchs standing at that time from management, BUT!
                      Immediately led (in fact) other groups, if not to management, then to the "pie", saying A did not say B on further nationalization - and it gave stunning results - a significant part of the income from oil and gas exports began to fall into the state pocket - and not sail to offshore (for example, source - N Starikov - Crisis how it is done) - God himself ordered to continue this way and on - why did you stop?

                      Justifies him Old people - says the "yoke" now Pendossky - they do not allow us to live better

                      So if the pendos and "... masons" are under pressure from the world behind the scenes, then let's put pressure on him - on the other hand -

                      How to do it? Vote for the communists! Their faction may increase in the Duma, in city bodies, elections of "red mayors" are possible - there will be "red regions" "red belt" new
                      The government will be forced to pursue a more popular and state policy - the influence of the oligarchs will weaken

                      This will not bring any harm to the progressive development - no one should call for barricades - just everyone should vote and this will change the country!
                      1. +2
                        29 August 2011 10: 26
                        Ivan, I’m calling for this. Not a revolution, the Communist Party will not do that ...
                        Namely - you need to come to the polls! Do not come to the polls can those who are satisfied with life, with a feeder or a roof. Of course, anyone who is at least somewhat familiar with the voting procedure knows how this all goes. BUT VOTE NECESSARY.
                        The trouble is that many of us often complain about life, medicine, authorities, power structures, but in no way correlate with politics.
                        It turns out that each sore point is a "different topic", but the very presence of such a large number of "topics" ...
                        Putin is Yeltsin’s henchman, could he really be a puppet and a traitor, would put in his place someone whom the State Department did not approve of.
                        Just that the process would proceed peacefully, and the Russians did not come to their senses ahead of time, the reins were slightly lowered.
                        Of course, after our previous rulers, Putin’s charisma shines like a star ... So, I think if a storm of revolution gathered suddenly, Nato would bomb the people, not the authorities. ((
                        Have you noticed nationalist sentiments? Most of the conflicts would not have arisen if the violators of the law were responsible for what they had done, but here he threw money, brought up his relatives, and it began ... The people are tired of the lawlessness, but they say that the newcomers are bad. One or two provocateurs and "Manezhka" began. The culture of interethnic communication has been lost ..
                      2. SAVA
                        -1
                        29 August 2011 12: 41
                        NATO IS ANTANTA, ONE AND ALSO THE PEOPLE WILL BE VERY HARD, ALMOST AS IN THE CIVIL, ONLY WITH MODERN WEAPONS THIS RISED PEOPLE WILL SIMPLY BROUGHT INTO, AND THE "MANEZHKA" WILL HAPPEN FROM HERE IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, IN GENERAL, HOW DO YOU TURN "COPS" AGAINST THE PEOPLE, AND ARE VERY MANY OF THEM WITH AN ARMY OF POKERS AND PROVOCATORS, THE ENEMY INSIDE !!! AND WE ARE ABOUT POLITICS, POLITICAL (HER KINGDOM HEAVENLY!) WHO KILLED !!!! ????? NOW THE COURT IS GOING, THIS "MENTYARA" HOW TO DRINK GIVE OUT! AND WILL THEN ON THE INTERNET TELL WHAT A PATRIOT HE IS !!! WE WILL RUN TO DEFEND THE HOMELAND !! ?? FOR WHOM !!?? FOR THESE MONSTERS, THAT WOULD THEY GET SUPER PENSIONS, THAT WOULD TRADE IN DRUGS AGAIN WITH GYPSES !! ?? WHAT WOULD RAPE 200 GIRLS IN KUSHCHEVSKAYA, WHAT THEY WOULD SCARE US IN PEACE TIME !!!!!!!!!! ????????????????
                      3. +1
                        29 August 2011 13: 08
                        I mean the same. The connivance of the police leads to a clash of nations. They plant this scumbag - you look, and the other will not behave like that. I heard one tale, as the mayor of a small town put several cygans for drugs, and told the barons that if they didn’t clean up with their families and drugs, they would put them for distribution. All gathered and wound up on the next. day. The town began to come to life, drug addicts are slowly moving away, crime has decreased. Maybe a bike, but if law enforcement agencies work properly, then a person, anyone, will be protected by law. And all the criminal elements that in Russia are hiding from criminal prosecution will return to their homeland. And we have such a lot. The powerlessness of our system leads to the fact that everyone who can pay for their crimes feel at home with us freely.
                        So again, everything goes to the authorities ...
                      4. SAVA
                        -1
                        29 August 2011 14: 02
                        solodova, God help me !! ANYTHING AGAINST THE POLICE THAT TO SAY THIS IS VERY "ORDER PEOPLE" !! BECAUSE IN THE DRUG BUSINESS "DIFFERENT" JUST DO NOT RESIST, YES, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE MONEY FOR THE KILLED RUSSIAN ZERLAND HIS HANDS FROM THE HANDS OF A KILLER, BUT IT HAS BEEN TO HAVE TO HAVE TO DO IN EVERY CITY AND VILLAGE, AND HOW SHOULD LOVE CHILDREN TO KNOW ABOUT THAT OR ANOTHER PEDOPHIL AND NOT TO DO ANYTHING, BUT EVERYTHING LESS AND LESS THERE PEOPLE "RUN" TO THEM (SAGRA) THEN WHEN THERE IS THERE. THE END OF THE END, THEY ARE NOT "TIMUROV'S" TO HELP EVERYONE !!!!!!!))))
                      5. Ivan35
                        +2
                        30 August 2011 14: 41
                        Apologies to the readers of the site - this is my comment addressed to Lokdok
                        It's just that the location of the comments is not clear who is addressing whom - and I did not write the name. I tried to "agitate" him
                2. zczczc
                  +1
                  26 August 2011 16: 51
                  Mlyn, how did you live under Stalin without selling gas? Themselves worked!
                  True, Stalin created a system of conviction without fault. But who prevents other principles from developing? When Brezhnev knew how to interest at least somehow.
            2. Gur
              +2
              27 August 2011 07: 36
              Smiled .. thank you friend ... even though I'm a Muscovite and a Russian for one thing))))))) Only here I have every autumn also in winter .. mothers in the village .. firewood is hot and it's not easy .. Russia is full of forests, and in Kazakhstan, you don't really panic about it ... so we have such a tree "elm" that's where the thing is .. so that its hotness is necessary, oh how to try ... in addition to drag a tone of 5 coal into a coal-box ... so eat only out of necessity .. sleep out of need .. revolution only from the heart. So we are looking for justice. So that my mother (and probably all mothers and fathers) who was born in the war and then built this country could meet with dignity.
              1. 0
                29 August 2011 10: 32
                Karagach is a cruel tree ... GUR, as it happened to take part in the sawing of one such tree ... (more precisely, look), the men sawed for a long time and in turns. Sawing it for firewood ... I think our birch and I "got drunk".
                Congratulations on moving to Moscow! ))))
    2. Superduck
      +1
      26 August 2011 13: 22
      Oil and gas are the most important chemical raw materials, like gold and rare earths are the blood of the electronic industry. However, with the increase in the cost of oil, its consumption as an energy carrier will steadily decline, and so far, only hydropower and nuclear energy at our latitudes are a real alternative. But oil and gas will always be in price, there is nothing to argue about.
    3. remserves
      0
      26 August 2011 15: 31
      Go to the Yakuts, explain this .... I have before my eyes a picture from our film of the times of "accursed stagnation", if I am not mistaken, "Walking through the agony," the other side is a forest of bayonets and frowning muzzles ..... Curtain.
  17. 0
    26 August 2011 13: 24
    Here I crawled out by such a mean man in the street ...
    Well, what a pity for me, forgive me, how much we owe it to states and Europe, and how much we gave, if it was not reflected on me, beloved and loved by ourselves.
    These are high matters, there, in the Kremlin, and in our country with the third place in oil and gas production, gasoline rises in price every month, the communal apartment also grows by leaps and bounds, and so on ...
    Well, they gave it a part of the debt, trumpeted the victory report, allocated something there to pensioners and teachers ...

    max, well, where are those knees from which we were raised? What is behind this metaphor? It's all so figurative, "ah, we must!" "Ogogo !!! we paid our debts!" ​​... So what?
    What state debt there was, I had to attach the prefix to the tabla, and nothing ... They live, and they don’t worry much about it.
    And how much our people are pilfering, in my opinion, all these debts are just resting.
  18. go_by
    0
    26 August 2011 13: 49
    What difference is -ism? This is not the case. Achievements of 17 years are very controversial. Was the stable period of the 70s the logical outcome of the revolution? Many researchers deny this. Rather, it was the result of another coup, already an inner-party one, begun by Stalin.
    The terms totalitarianism and democracy themselves are unscientific and coined by manipulators to seize power in the 90s. To say that now democracy or capitalism is simply ridiculous. In fact, we are a dependent state, which is engaged in paying indemnities to the victorious party with its oil and gas. And also we carry out reparations by the destruction of our industries. I really hope that the country is not governed by an external manager.
  19. Max. M.M
    0
    26 August 2011 13: 59
    Russia exists thanks to oil and gas
    1. SAVA
      +2
      26 August 2011 14: 28
      I continue the thought, and when they run out of it is because of the atom RUSSIA WILL LIVE PRAYING WEST BUY She energy because as the production of NO NOTHING upgraded, do not create not invest BECAUSE WEST OR GOES TO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY SOURCES THAT WOULD quickly deflate this card have RUSSIA AND TO KNEEL OUR HOPE AND SUPPORT, THE STATE STRATEGY SHOULD BE SUCH "THAT WOULD BE PROFITABLE FOR US AND NOT FOR SOMEONE."
  20. -1
    26 August 2011 14: 02
    A good article, calm reasoning, no matter how you say it, but Marx was right the formation will change, one way or another we will come to communism, it’s just important how we noticed the inside of the personality change, let’s say its moral principles, multiplied by achievements in science and technology. ..
    This long process, we hope that the grandchildren will live better than us ...
  21. ZEBRASH
    +1
    26 August 2011 14: 04
    I like the approach of China: they took the best from communism and capitalism, and what do they have now? A growing economy, a strong army, great political influence, they are always the first at the Olympics, the demographic situation is good (giving birth more than necessary) and the whole world is littered with Chinese goods.
    1. 0
      26 August 2011 14: 51
      Yes, yes, by the way mortality there is growing the same day by day! This locust has ruined its nature, with its rapid production growth and investment of any harmful HomO !!!
      http://www.mixnews.lv/ru/world/news/2010-08-06/46157
      http://www.ecoanaliz.ru/ecodata/7-ecoworld/47-chinaeco.html
    2. Aktium
      0
      27 August 2011 12: 03
      Well, for starters, they are not always the first at the Olympics. Not always. The United States and Russia are still serious competitors. And Germany is also not a gossamer. The world, of course, is partially overwhelmed with Chinese goods (mainly consumer goods and office equipment), but the crisis of overproduction The army may be strong, but when they decided to leave for Vietnam, they got enough luli not to go there anymore. And according to demographics, we can say the following: when there is a strong reproduction of a certain species in a limited area, then either this species begins a powerful migration, or the strongest epidemics break out, claiming up to two-thirds of the lives. "Great political influence" is also in question. Without the support of the United States (without American assets located in China) and an atomic bomb, China will not be able to exert much influence even in the Pacific region. The same Vietnamese and, moreover, the Japanese, are much better able to fight, for example. Yes, if nothing changes, China MAY become an economic world leader by the 20th year. But this is far is not a fact.
      If an alternative appears, China simply cannot develop for a long time at the same pace without capturing new territories and new sources of raw materials.
      Read Marx gentlemen, comrades. Well, or at least Adam Smith.
  22. ZEBRASH
    0
    26 August 2011 15: 56
    Well, mortality is not very scary for them, but the fact that they are one of the main burrs (and the fact that they are our neighbors) is bad.
    1. Superduck
      0
      26 August 2011 16: 40
      Yeah, they regularly pour some crap into the Amur. Locust
  23. jamert
    -2
    26 August 2011 17: 22
    The future of Russia:
    Putin-Medvedev, Medvedev-Putin, Putin-Medvedev
  24. Astral
    +5
    26 August 2011 17: 30
    I completely agree with the author. I can definitely say that I am a communist. My idol is Stalin. Big and far-sighted person.
  25. Max. M.M
    +3
    26 August 2011 17: 33
    there is someone who will turn Russia over. (for the better)
    1. SAVA
      +8
      26 August 2011 18: 09
      AND WITH THIS, IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO BE A COMMUNIST. IT IS JUST TO LOVE YOUR PEOPLE AND COUNTRY, SUCH BIG AND POOR
      1. Ivan35
        +1
        27 August 2011 22: 47
        What a good comment, Sava! I will only note - if suddenly we get a leadership acting in the interests of the people - then in the first place it will start doing as the communists would have done (nationalization - criminal cases against many oligarchs - withdrawal of money from the "Pendossian captivity" - leaving the dollar zone - closing borders from " currency vacuum cleaner - import restriction - and so on) many will not like it of course
        But the pluses are the restoration of industry and agriculture, healthcare medicine and the army, reducing corruption, raising the standard of living of the impoverished mass (at some cost to the minority)
        1. SAVA
          +1
          27 August 2011 23: 07
          FOR THESE MEASURES, IT IS NECESSARY TO ADD ANOTHER ONE VALID, CHANGE ALL SEEDS OF VEGETABLES, FRUITS AND GRAINS SUCH AS THEY ARE ALREADY GENNIFIED IF NOT ALL THE GREAT PART, WITHOUT IT BEFORE
  26. +2
    26 August 2011 20: 40
    I would like to add that USSR-2 does not have to be a complete copy of USSR-1 !!! When they begin to recall long lines, the shortage of everything ... it is silly to say the least. I am not a communist, but I support the idea. Already the Communist Party’s policy, of course this is not a PR move (and I am sure that it is not) closer for ordinary peopleand!!!
  27. SAVA
    +1
    26 August 2011 21: 37
    IF ALREADY ABOUT THE FUTURE AND ON THE INVESTMENT OF FUNDS IN THE COUNTRY, SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD NOT BE SO PAYING TO FINISH THE STEEL RAILWAY IN THE STAILS OF A RAILWAY, SOON THE ARCTIC WILL LEARN TO GO TO THE ARCTIC.
    1. asavchenko59
      +1
      27 August 2011 06: 10
      We will organize a new gulag from bureaucratic rabble. The road will be built in 3 months.
      1. SAVA
        +1
        27 August 2011 23: 30
        WHY ONLY FROM CHINONICHEGO A drug dealers and their "roof", "Cop" and "wogs" THAT fake vodka is produced Again Their "roof" And owners who did not really pay people wages, owners of gaming clubs, journalists who write custom-made articles and materiallov anti-people, pedophiles, A Reeves deliver and pay them good money to those people whose relatives died from drugs and counterfeit vodka, over whose CHILDREN abused with impunity GONE FROM LIABILITY the scum ,, the way, and "Major", which knocks people on the road and T. D . ETC.
  28. Max. M.M
    +3
    27 August 2011 05: 55
    when the European Union and the United States are good, then Russia is bad. but I’ll say for sure that a holiday awakens on our street (that is, Russia will be fine)
  29. asavchenko59
    +1
    27 August 2011 06: 08
    Communism is, first of all, the DICTATURE of the PROLETARIAT.
    And what kind of proletariat can we talk now? He is crushed, humiliated and divided. Until the proletariat appears in our country, nothing will change.
    1. Gur
      +1
      27 August 2011 07: 44
      I agree ... maybe this is another reason why all production, including the military-industrial complex, are being closed in the country ... ???
    2. +1
      29 August 2011 10: 36
      The harder the spring is compressed, the more it will bend.))) Remember Gorky's "Mother", it happened even worse.
  30. +2
    27 August 2011 13: 06
    The article is normal. It would be read to the leaders of the St. Petersburg fraternity in power. There is no order in the country and probably is not expected in the near future. Prices are rising, and Mr. Kudrin is fighting inflation. this is probably why he is the best finance minister of all time. I don’t quite agree with some commentators - our country is large, even very. The country is very rich. But they do not quite belong to the people. stupidity of management always wins. If the DAV himself says that a quarter of the budget is actually stolen, then what more can be said. The police were renamed the police - the reform was carried out, everyone became clean and fluffy. The medics carried out the reform - the medicine became almost paid. Chubais spent - prices went up sharply. But he was again entrusted with the task of implementing nano. His salary is several times higher than the presidential salary. And so in everything. Cynicism in the sun, especially where EdRo put his hands, or rather paws. Zhirinovsky correctly said that the bear is the most stupid animal. On all significant achievements in the country they put the stigma of EdRo. After all, it was enough conscience to put it on the achievements of the USSR during the war.
  31. zczczc
    +2
    27 August 2011 20: 29
    In general, this is the most correct article, in any case, raising the most necessary and relevant issue. But it does not give an answer to this question - we all compare the Union with the predatory capitalism of our time, but at the same time we understand that socialism also had its drawbacks: to understand, to distill all the best from different formations - that would be anyone who would have relied on such an analysis!
    1. Ivan35
      +2
      28 August 2011 00: 02
      Maxim Kalashnikov has such an attempt - but somehow youthful - romantic
      Nikolai Starikov gives some kind of vision in his books
      Sergey Kara Murza gives the best brilliant analysis of the economy and life of the USSR
      Perhaps you have already read or heard about these authors

      I myself am not original and I probably think like the majority - the state must become stronger than the capitalists - so that it rules and not them. This means that the capitalists must become "small" - they do not need to own strategic industries that they did not build.
      And that means they should not represent the people in the state machine - so far the best candidates for the role of such representatives are still Communists
      1. -3
        28 August 2011 03: 14
        What communists!?! ... What communism!?! .... This is impossible !!! ... This is the Utopia of Tomos Mora - 1516, in the processing of Marxist fiction !!!
        1. Ivan35
          +1
          28 August 2011 11: 47
          No, maybe you didn’t understand me! I don’t think that we will build communism in the circumstances - and I don’t even hope for the communists to come to power (although I would like to)
          I just propose to increase the pressure on the authorities and the oligarchs "from the left" - the more we vote for the truth, the more we will change the line of power
          1. zczczc
            +2
            28 August 2011 16: 41
            Or they will be even trickier.
      2. zczczc
        +2
        28 August 2011 16: 41
        Starikov did not read. Kalashnikov in my opinion is utopian, he has a lot of controversy.

        I meant, who would have moved to a brief overview article for the site :)
        1. Ivan35
          0
          28 August 2011 21: 20
          Well, yes, I’m saying the same - Kalashnikov is more likely to write for teenagers - but he has the right direction as a whole - ours! But as the basis for the program - of course - thank you - there are a lot of things piled up there.

          I really - really advise reading Nikolai Starikov - not just smart, brilliant analytics and journalism - I’m also interested in reading - you won’t regret it!

          And as for the article - Let's ask Solodova together - I think she will give odds to any peasant by the depth of analysis and the ability to formulate
          1. zczczc
            +1
            28 August 2011 21: 36
            How will we ask? :)

            "Honorable madam Solodova, would you be so kind as to create a test of the pen in the field of this site on the topic of our existence with you and our descendants?"

            Well, in general, who will write and well ...
            1. 0
              29 August 2011 10: 43
              I think I'm not ready for such a serious matter. :-)), I'm afraid you overestimate me. I don’t have enough knowledge yet, there weren’t much samples of the pen ...
              However, thanks, for such an assessment of my abilities, although overpriced. Therefore, it remains for me to join your request for a review article.
  32. Dr. Mortimer
    +1
    28 August 2011 16: 22
    Communism as current is not possible. Who will wash public toilets at bus stations under communism? Russia needs socialism with the New Economic Policy! Or something like in the Russian Empire after the February Revolution!
    1. +1
      29 August 2011 10: 56
      Regarding the February Revolution: it is no longer relevant for us. Her tasks were: the overthrow of the tsarist monarchy, the establishment of a democratic republic, the elimination of landlord tenure, the destruction of national oppression.
      There is always someone to wash toilets. Do not forget the principles of the USSR - any work is honorable. In addition, we can be socially equal, but not everyone can be an engineer or teacher, there will always be someone who will be interested in such work. And there’s nothing wrong with that.
      People are not yet ready for communism, and in the future it may turn out, indeed, that individualism will triumph over the social principle in man.
      But I knew people who were honest and selfless. There were such bosses who all their lives turned their subordinates to the apartment and 91 remained living in communal apartments. Workers who were proud of their work were happy for their enterprise and under no circumstances could they take a penny through the entrance or fence. So in theory this is possible.
      Only this should be preceded by a long painstaking work. And there must be immunity to the infection from which the iron curtain protected us.
      Otherwise, the repetition of 91 events through the generation ...
  33. ZEBRASH
    +2
    29 August 2011 10: 51
    Quote: SAVA
    AND WITH THIS, IT IS NOT MANDATORY TO BE A COMMUNIST. IT IS JUST TO LOVE YOUR PEOPLE AND COUNTRY, SUCH BIG AND POOR

    I completely agree. But one more thing is not clear to me: are there really so few normal among all these high-ranking officials who, besides themselves, would also think of ordinary people? Or is it good people change money so?
    1. +1
      29 August 2011 11: 01
      Or is it good people change money so?


      ZEBRASH, exactly, in everyone there is a "virus" that makes them change, under "favorable" conditions.
      1. SAVA
        0
        29 August 2011 12: 58
        THIS IS THE WORLD "FISH IS LOOKING FOR WHERE DEEP, AND MAN WHERE IS BETTER"
    2. SAVA
      +1
      29 August 2011 12: 55
      ZEBRASH, STUDENTS AROUND A FIRE THEM ALL DREAM WORLD do better, but on the way up are so turned inside out that they are simply thrown to the classical human understanding because they are pre STUDY FOR ITS GOOD AND NOT THE PEOPLE, generally business as usual to invest money in education, IT IS NECESSARY TO "BEAT" FROM WHAT HANDS AND WHY THIS MONEY WILL NOT EXCITATE THEM ALREADY, YES, AND LOOK AT WHO LEADED US AND WHOSE CHILDREN IS NOW LEADING TO BECOME ALL CLEAR WHY WE ARE SO ALIVE
  34. +5
    29 August 2011 10: 52
    Our state will become normal when each of us becomes worthy, becomes patient with a neighbor, kind, capable of compassion, honest, fair.

    - but no, we have to walk all day with the "shell" of the negative - in public transport, on the street, at work. Coming home, watching the news, watching how the pre-election Internet race for the possession of the mind of the people is proceeding - some hate the current government, others believe that the communists are not the same, and still others are for Prokhorov, albeit timidly.

    No power will correct the situation, some grabbers will leave, others will come. And so it will be as long as we, with you, will perceive all this as - "not our fault."
  35. alnikar
    0
    29 August 2011 17: 10
    Gentlemen, the discussion is certainly interesting, but think before you talk about any changes in the country that are possible only together, do you know the names of at least all the neighbors on the floor, in the entrance, on the street (who lives in his house)?
    Do you know what they do?
    Will you believe your neighbor if he says, "On the floor above the drug den, let's work together with you and other neighbors to make him stop working," believe me, will you help?
    But you should start with this, and this will be the new order established from below.
    And if there is no cover for our country !!!
  36. erik777
    +2
    31 August 2011 11: 37
    For our Soviet motherland! There is and cannot be a better system in Russia than the one in which we lived for almost 70 years, lived with the name of the leader on the lips, with good songs, with good and funny films, with good cartoons. There is no capitalism with a human face, but there is socialism. And it was precisely socialism that gave us what we are using now, what they have plundered for 20 years now. Look around 95% of all structures from Soviet times, all military equipment and industry from Soviet times. Scientific and technological progress has bypassed our country from the west and east. We live only by exporting gas and oil. We do not produce anything, and only buy everything abroad. Enough, we realized what democracy is, 20 years is enough, we want it back. We know the affairs of the Communist Party of the Communist Party (CPSU) and voting for the Communist Party, we vote for the homeland, we have no other, capitalist homeland. We see the affairs of the democrats, what has been done in 20 years? Let's compare: 1921-1941 and 1991-2011, in 1 case the largest industrialization in history was carried out, from a poor agricultural country, over the past 20 years we have become a superpower that has invaded the Great Patriotic War. And what in 2 case? The entire industry has finally collapsed, ethnic conflicts have reached their zenith. Leader Russia: 1st place in alcohol abuse, more than 10 million drinkers, 1st place in heroin consumption in the world, 1st place in child prostitution, 1st place in the number of abortions. We are an endangered country, the population is decreasing by 800 thousand people every year. MAY TIME TO SAY STOP !!! Stop pretending that nothing is happening, It's time to finally understand what is happening. I personally made a choice for myself and I think YOU must also make the right choice. So you can’t go on! 2012, the election is time to change the power, and we must make a choice - the Communist Party.
    Who has not noticed yet, the current government has been denigrating the affairs of the party that has been building the country for almost 20 years now for 70 years.
    PS And Lenin is so young and young October is ahead!
  37. 0
    19 September 2011 13: 45
    The article is about nothing. Communism is as alien to us as capitalism, it all came from there, from the West. Without the revival of culture and a holistic worldview in the soul of Russian people, the future of Russia is impossible.
  38. Skiff75
    0
    4 March 2013 13: 46
    I do not completely agree with the author. Throughout the world, socialism is not needed. Europe does not need a different system. Personally, I believe that capitalism flourishes only if there are countries that can be plundered. Our country has no one to rob except its own people. But still the world needs a bipolar. So that competition forces the political system to be flexible. Otherwise, we will again come to a standstill. Socialism is nevertheless close to our mentality. Indeed, you must agree that when you see a person lying, you will render him at least some help not for the sake of the reward that he can possibly give.

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