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Russian Navy ships return to Vietnam

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Russia and Vietnam have concluded an intergovernmental agreement on the simplified procedure for the entry of Russian warships into the Vietnamese port of Camran, the agency reports NSN with reference to tass.

Russian Navy ships return to Vietnam


As the TASS correspondent was told by a source in the Ministry of Defense, the agreement was signed on November 25 in Sochi during the visit of the Secretary General of the Communist Party of Vietnam Nguyen Phu Chong. The document establishes a “consensus order for Russian ships and ships to enter Cam Ranh”. That is, only the notification of the port authorities by the captain of the ship that has approached the territorial waters of Vietnam is required.

Mikhail Moiseyev, State Duma deputy and former chief of the General Staff (1988-1991), spoke about the significance of this agreement: “Cam Ranh is a very important military point for Russia. It is important that our Pacific Fleet not only has access to the ocean, but has a base where it can refuel, put the ships in order, rest, solve other tasks, including conducting joint exercises. All of this is to strengthen our fighting power in the Asia-Pacific region. Vietnam is our reliable military ally, on which you can rely, as it was at all times. ”

“As the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR, I perfectly understood: if our probable adversaries have bases around Russia and strengthen them, why do not we strengthen the operational zones that we need to ensure national security objectives ?! The Kamrani Treaty is only for the benefit of our armed forces, our Pacific the fleet, which in all campaigns - long and near - will have a reliable base. It is very good that we are returning to those places that we left! ”, The army general added.

Military expert Igor Korotchenko adheres to a similar point of view: “This is all a consequence of the dynamically developing Russian-Vietnamese relations. Kamran we need. This is an important point so that our ships can go there and without any problems carry out what they need. ”

NSN notes that Vietnam is the second country with which Russia has such an agreement. The first was concluded many years ago with Syria regarding the entry of ships into the port of Tartus.
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 28 November 2014 10: 33
    +23
    Well, finally resolved the issue, which is long overdue.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 28 November 2014 10: 34
      +7
      Someone already managed to slap a minus of this news ?! drinks
      1. avt
        avt 28 November 2014 10: 37
        +4
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Has anyone already managed to slap the minus of this news?

        I slapped it, because the title does not correspond to the content - there is no "return" to the state that the USSR and Russia had in Camran! And most importantly, there will not be, because the Vietnamese are not such suckers as it seems to some, and their interest and political course as they gain strength, they will defend toughly. The times of the USSR have passed irrevocably. They will not be allowed into Cam Ranh - they will not allow the base to be created, they entered, they shot the Vietnamese flag with salute for a day and went to the exit.
        1. Oleg NSK
          Oleg NSK 28 November 2014 10: 45
          +12
          to Camran - will not be allowed to create a base


          ... but this is a matter of diplomats ... really between Vietnam and China, there are serious disagreements and mutual claims ... they even fought more than once ... and even in Soviet times in 1979 ... the first inter-socialist war .. .
          ... and China seems to be our ally, but on the other hand ... he will not give Russia any base on its territory ... but Vietnam is possible ...
          ... in general, diplomats will now have enough business ... and even on such conditions ... it's really better than nothing
          1. Iline
            Iline 28 November 2014 17: 54
            0
            But what about aviation? After all, there was only recently and our airfield was.
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        3. GRAY
          GRAY 28 November 2014 11: 08
          +7
          Quote: avt
          there is no "return" to the state that the USSR and Russia had in Kamran!

          It seems to me that this is the first step towards the creation of a logistics point, but there will not be a full-fledged military base - this is without options.
        4. Stanislas
          Stanislas 28 November 2014 12: 03
          +1
          Quote: avt
          they will be tough to defend their interest and political course as they gain strength
          Are we returning there to somehow prevent the Vietnamese from satisfying their interests or to push them off course to build a bright future? Only Americans will lead them off this course, the Chinese will not, but they will not defend them, due to the fact that they have conflicting interests. It remains Russia - the most reliable and profitable partner for Vietnam. Our ships will remain in Kamran the longer, the more the Vietnamese are convinced that we can be trusted.
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    2. Siberian German
      Siberian German 28 November 2014 10: 53
      +4
      I just don’t understand why Putin closed the base in Kamran and now he opens it again - there is a lot of money, so I can say about lourdos
      1. avt
        avt 28 November 2014 11: 07
        +1
        Quote: Siberian German
        I just don’t understand why Putin closed the base in Kamran and now he opens it again - there is a lot of money, so I can say about lourdos

        Actually, in Kamran, yes, they closed the base of the Russian Navy during it, and now they opened the RIGHT of the notification entry of ships into the base of VIETNAM. Is it really difficult to understand the difference - it is enough to read not only the title, well, and not pay attention to the comments of the "military expert" Korotchenko ??
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        2. Siberian German
          Siberian German 28 November 2014 11: 16
          +1
          I perfectly understand the difference between the notification and the base - I'm talking about why they closed it if we are now returning to Vietnam
      2. jagdpanzer
        jagdpanzer 28 November 2014 11: 39
        0
        there wasn’t enough for Rosneft laughing
    3. Siberian German
      Siberian German 28 November 2014 10: 53
      +1
      I just don’t understand why Putin closed the base in Kamran and now he opens it again - there is a lot of money, so I can say about lourdos
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 28 November 2014 11: 31
        +2
        shut down to save. it was expensive to maintain. But as the latest roundups show, the situation is heating up and it will get harder. In any case, you have to cut expenses somewhere. I don’t think that they will give us full use of our reserves (which lie under the mattress of Uncle SAMA in the form of the State Clinical Hospital - state treasury bonds). So there’s talk of renewing the base, i.e. the complexity of this process lies not only in reluctance on the part of Vietnam, but also most likely in the limited capabilities of the Russian Federation.
      2. SAXA.SHURA
        SAXA.SHURA 28 November 2014 12: 21
        0
        You are overlaid on all sides, but don’t twitch, right? End with a broomstick of revenge. That's it.
    4. Antor
      Antor 28 November 2014 12: 05
      +5
      What solution is it just a way to earn extra money for Vietnam from servicing our ships, and if it’s good for us then it’s even better !?
      But do issues need to be decided radically? Why writing off 25 mln.dollars to Cuba, we did not solve the issue of a full-fledged base of our Navy on its territory! What are we so generous!
      At today's exchange rate of the ruble for a trillion billion pull!
      Why is Guantanama, part of Cuban territory, given to the amers under a military base (though not Castro’s regime) for eternal use, and I was near it at one of the tense moments when they were preparing under the supposed military exercises to capture the island of Freedom! It’s a very convenient bridgehead, why, when we were surrounded on all sides by NATO (count American) military bases and obviously with the goal of not treating us with American whiskey, but striking at the right moment, so much so that to death, we left Cuba! Cuba has been under sanctions for a year now, they also strive to strangle and destroy us!
      It's about us or our Cuban friends, or both together, they say it’s like you don’t need to exacerbate it, you need diplomacy, peacefully !?
      Oh, and we will play with this incomprehensible game in a peaceful, human way. With America, as we have seen all the lies, stars and provocations, and what are we waiting for !?
      It's all about diplomacy buzzing, but when God forbid the guns speak, the advantage will be estimated by the time of the arrival of winged and other nasty things to our cities and industrial areas - the West and the USA are far from simpletons and for this purpose they move and move insolently towards our realizing the boundaries! And we diplomatically, and they .... far and for a long time, doing their vile deed!
      In Cuba, there is a monument to the Soviet soldiers who fell for the freedom of Cuba, our freedom, namely missile batteries from Cuba, aimed across the strait to California and the whole of America, the seconds of flight made us think and stop, if not strange, the third world war !? America loves to die for the sake of its interests on other continents and countries, America has not experienced the horror of bombed cities and millions of people who fell on the battlefields on its territory, so its ruling and military elite are so used to being unpunished and cynical!
      If Ukraine joins NATO, we need to firmly understand that then, not Kamran, but Cuba will be the appropriate answer and here let the diplomats, the military and all on whom it depends work!
    5. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 28 November 2014 12: 36
      +3
      Quote: Giant thought
      Well, finally resolved the issue, which is long overdue.

      As the sentence was ripened to hang for me ... tsa those paskud that are about .... whether Camran and Lourdes.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 28 November 2014 17: 10
        +1
        In order to create a base, you must first have ships. So far, as I understand it, Russia is occupied by the coastal zone. And now, in my opinion, this is enough. The time will come for ocean ships - there will also be bases (by definition they will be needed).
        Everything is consistent and regular, do not rush.
  2. avt
    avt 28 November 2014 10: 34
    0
    No. What kind of “return” !? ,, “conciliatory procedure for the entry of Russian ships and vessels into Cam Ranh.” “---- This is not a base to rent.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 28 November 2014 10: 35
      +6
      Quote: avt
      No. What kind of “return” !? ,, “conciliatory procedure for the entry of Russian ships and vessels into Cam Ranh.” “---- This is not a base to rent.


      Better than nothing. Yes, and enough rent, over how much Ukraine fooled their minds with this rent, constantly reviewed the rate, approval required almost to the cleaners of the territory, etc. And so he refueled, the crew rested, replenished supplies, and then troll p ... dosos in southern Asia and Oceania
      1. jjj
        jjj 28 November 2014 11: 20
        +1
        In this, it is thought, one must discern the presence of our fleet in the Indian Ocean. Vietnam is developing, it is quite capable of providing ships with fresh water, food, and fuel. Provide coastal relaxation for crews or shift shift. The presence of a separate territory of the base, with warehouses, infrastructure, communication centers, today is not becoming so topical. The political moment is important
    2. GUS
      GUS 28 November 2014 10: 38
      +2
      Quote: avt
      No. What kind of “return” !? ,, “conciliatory procedure for the entry of Russian ships and vessels into Cam Ranh.” “---- This is not a base to rent.


      Down and Out trouble started.
    3. sub307
      sub307 28 November 2014 11: 39
      0
      And, like they were going to open the PMO, like in Tartus ....
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    5. Stanislas
      Stanislas 28 November 2014 12: 17
      +1
      Quote: avt
      What is the "return" !?
      The title of the article uses the imperfective verb in the present tense "come back", and you swear at the perfect verb in the past tense "come back". Everything has its time. Why look for negativity where there is none? One can only repeat the phrase expressed by the general: "It is very good that we are returning to the places that we left!"
  3. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 28 November 2014 10: 36
    +2
    Again the west will begin to spray with saliva about Russian expansion!
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 28 November 2014 10: 36
    +6
    Again, everything falls into place .. as befits a world power! Cuba needs to be targeted in this regard .. the United States is too unbelted from impunity! Great news. good Thanks Vietnam!
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 28 November 2014 10: 38
      +1
      So our fleet had a fulcrum in Southeast Asia.
  5. Evgeniy82
    Evgeniy82 28 November 2014 10: 40
    +1
    And the sailors, how, probably, rejoiced ... laughing laughing laughing
    If, of course, they are allowed to go ashore ...
  6. Balamyt
    Balamyt 28 November 2014 10: 41
    +2
    Good! If memory serves me right, then we had a base there. So, the legs should be pulled up by those clever people who put it out of operation!
    And you must return to Cuba without fail!
    In the current situation, it is simply necessary to hold the Americans with a strong hand for their sleek, pampered eggs!
  7. SamSeBse
    SamSeBse 28 November 2014 10: 43
    +2
    Right. Do not hell sitting in the back streets. The flag must be demonstrated!
  8. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 28 November 2014 10: 47
    +5
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Quote: avt
    No. What kind of “return” !? ,, “conciliatory procedure for the entry of Russian ships and vessels into Cam Ranh.” “---- This is not a base to rent.


    Better than nothing. Yes, and enough rent, over how much Ukraine fooled their minds with this rent ...

    About Ukraine it is necessary to forget at all. There was no such country. And there are territories of RUSSIA temporarily separated from it. And they need to be attached as soon as possible, and all who do not want to live in RUSSIA must be deported. And they should not have any apartments, dachas, land or any other property. It's time to protect RUSSIA and the people living on its territory. And without looking back to the West, that he might understand or think something wrong. First of all, you need to think about your people !. soldier
  9. arthur_hammer
    arthur_hammer 28 November 2014 10: 49
    0
    It is necessary to return "Kamranevka" back))))))
  10. Vivan
    Vivan 28 November 2014 10: 50
    +3
    Quote: avt
    No. What kind of “return” !? ,, “conciliatory procedure for the entry of Russian ships and vessels into Cam Ranh.” “---- This is not a base to rent.

    In my opinion, the word “return” is just nowhere more accurate. Vietnam constantly insists that it does not allow other countries to have military bases on its territory, so that in the official statements of the parties there can be no talk of a Russian military base in Kamran. Vietnam and Russia need a military base of the Russian Navy in Kamran, only each side understands its importance in its own way - Russia thinks of the US Navy, and Vietnam expects the containment effect of the Celestial Navy.
  11. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 28 November 2014 10: 54
    +3
    It remains to build ships so that there is someone to go there.
    This process is a little longer than putting a signature on a document.
    Even the cry and the action "Let's buy" we stopped working. They do not even sell or give away what they have bought.
    Here is such respect for a powerful democratic Russia.
    But for some reason they were considered the USSR. )
    Yes, and it became difficult to buy. There is no money in the state at a price of $ 70 per barrel.
    All government thieves and private investors were stolen.
    But the USSR collapsed at a price of $ 6 for the same barrel.
    Question: How many thieves are in power in Russia?
  12. fomkin
    fomkin 28 November 2014 10: 54
    0
    You can fuck, another achievement. But why did they give this base away, and those who are now sticking out their breasts.
  13. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 28 November 2014 10: 57
    0
    Camrani is certainly good. But I would like to have something like Port Arthur in the Pacific Ocean. And better - two. One in Asia, the other in South America. If there was money, I would have bought an island from the Papuans.
  14. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 28 November 2014 10: 58
    +2
    I think, why is it Vietnamese, as the president says, the partners are more frequent. It can be seen that they were resolving their issues and did not prevent Russia from resolving their issues on Vietnamese territory.
  15. Djozz
    Djozz 28 November 2014 11: 04
    0
    At one time I was there a gorgeous bay and all that is needed for the rest of the sailors of the Russian Federation, by the way in Kamrani, the squadron adm stopped to rest. Christmas!
  16. warrior1979
    warrior1979 28 November 2014 11: 09
    0
    Quote: Siberian German
    I just don’t understand why Putin closed the base in Kamran and now he opens it again - there is a lot of money, so it’s about lourdes I can say


    Correct you - Lourdes !!!
  17. sledge
    sledge 28 November 2014 11: 10
    0
    Very very good news
  18. sabakina
    sabakina 28 November 2014 11: 11
    +2
    Well, the base is not the base, but even better than nothing ...
  19. Rassamaha
    Rassamaha 28 November 2014 11: 12
    +1
    The good news is that it is necessary to conclude an agreement with Cuba on an ongoing basis.
  20. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 November 2014 11: 15
    +2
    Our base was in Kamran. Now a simplified entry of the ships of the Russian Navy. What the joy is about. By the way, Vietnam is currently pursuing a cunning saber policy. In some matters they have already caved in under the United States. Vietnam War veterans in shock. Vietnam completely forgot who bombed them, burned them with napalm, pollinated them with pesticides. The Vietnamese leadership is now in the first place "loot". Completely forgotten Ho She Min's grandfather.
  21. Kostyar
    Kostyar 28 November 2014 11: 16
    0
    Quote: avt
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Has anyone already managed to slap the minus of this news?

    I slapped it, because the title does not correspond to the content - there is no "return" to the state that the USSR and Russia had in Camran! And most importantly, there will not be, because the Vietnamese are not such suckers as it seems to some, and their interest and political course as they gain strength, they will defend toughly. The times of the USSR have passed irrevocably. They will not be allowed into Cam Ranh - they will not allow the base to be created, they entered, they shot the Vietnamese flag with salute for a day and went to the exit.


    You never know how this "return" was called for the public, the main thing is that we are there ....
    And the rest ..., we’ll figure it out during the play !!!
  22. divangeneral
    divangeneral 28 November 2014 11: 17
    +1
    Quote: Balamyt
    Russian Navy ships return to Vietnam


    Well then pull your legs to Putin. it was he who decommissioned it
    and lourdes
  23. Vasily Ivashov
    Vasily Ivashov 28 November 2014 11: 21
    -2
    How simply and routinely the news was presented about a truly very important and significant event for Russia and the world. Oh well, modesty decorates!
    1. Vasily Ivashov
      Vasily Ivashov 28 November 2014 14: 50
      0
      Who then me sculpts. If Kostyar, then okay: the general is supposed to arrange dragging and dropping of the lower ranks and ranks.
  24. Vishnevsky
    Vishnevsky 28 November 2014 11: 40
    -2
    Vietnam is not what it used to be. Slowly developing economically, tourism is developing, the army is rearming ... Only with China there are disagreements. So far, we are partners with China, so it’s better not to go there with your bases. Firstly, it’s expensive to maintain them, and secondly, so as not to spoil relations with the Chinese and Vietnamese.
  25. kelevra
    kelevra 28 November 2014 11: 50
    +1
    A very useful replenishment base, and there are not far from American military bases in the Pacific!
  26. rumata63
    rumata63 28 November 2014 11: 52
    +2
    and closed with an "iPhone" quite recently, was it worth it.
  27. other
    other 28 November 2014 12: 24
    0
    looked at the port on the ball and did not find there suitable berths for our ships!
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 28 November 2014 13: 04
      0
      Quote: anden
      looked at the port on the ball and did not find there suitable berths for our ships!
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 28 November 2014 13: 18
      +2
      Quote: anden
      looked at the port on the ball and did not find there suitable berths for our ships!
    3. rumata63
      rumata63 29 November 2014 10: 45
      0
      and what is there for the Israelites to do? You do not shave your ports in Haifa and others.
  28. raven75
    raven75 28 November 2014 12: 35
    +1
    Well, to the base, as in the days of the USSR is still far away. But we must begin AGAIN with something else. I hope that the Vietnamese still remember, thanks to whom the little-known third world country was able to plunge the Americans so deep into the face of ... about.
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  30. vovan089
    vovan089 28 November 2014 13: 10
    +2
    There was at one time the chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was a certain Kvashnin A.V., who, foaming on his lips, convinced that Russia did not need bases in Cam Ranh, in Cuba, etc. He, in addition, destroyed the central bodies of military command, reduced the headquarters of military districts armies. With his stupid proposals, he destroyed a clear system of strategic and operational use of troops and naval forces, introduced inconsistencies in combat manuals and manuals. He caused considerable damage to the economy of the region as he was appointed the plenipotentiary representative of the president in the Far East. Now we have to restore everything. These are the "cadres" now prevailing in the government of Medvedka. They have brought the country's economy to the limit.
  31. zero12005
    zero12005 28 November 2014 13: 17
    +1
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Someone already managed to slap a minus of this news ?!

    Do you think only our site is visited? The enemy does not sleep.
  32. pinecone
    pinecone 28 November 2014 13: 20
    +2
    Quote: Siberian German
    I just don’t understand why Putin closed the base in Kamran and now he opens it again - there is a lot of money, so I can say about lourdos


    In 1998, the Vietnamese side proposed to introduce a rent in the amount of 300 million dollars per year for renting the base. This proposal was contrary to the Soviet-Vietnamese treaty, the rental base for it was free.

    On October 17, 2001, Russian President Putin decided to prematurely evacuate the base from January 1, 2002 in order to save money and not renew the contract with Vietnam, despite the fact that the agreement on the free placement of the base expired only in 2004.
    The Russian Navy left Cam Ranh in mid-May 2002. At that time, Vietnam declared that Cam Ranh Bay would no longer be a foreign military target. A year later, the Vietnamese government decided to reorganize the base into an international airport. Cam Ranh International Airport on the territory of the former Soviet naval base was opened on December 12 2009 of the year.
    (from an article IN February 21, 2013.)
  33. Saburo
    Saburo 28 November 2014 14: 11
    0
    I wonder how China will react to this. They are far from being friends with Vietnam. And won't America change its mind about selling Orions to Vietnam?
  34. jona
    jona 28 November 2014 14: 58
    +1
    Base needed in the Gulf of Mexico
  35. mamont5
    mamont5 28 November 2014 15: 44
    0
    I remember how during the Vietnam War, the name Camran often appeared in the press.
  36. Number 17
    Number 17 28 November 2014 19: 33
    0
    Good news. Where the ship is there and the submarine may appear.