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Isolation of Donbass. Cause and effect

It seems that November was the month for the Ukrainian authorities to discover the obvious truth that the Donbass is no longer Ukrainian.

Isolation of Donbass. Cause and effect

In any case, that part of the Donbass, which is controlled by the "DNR" - "LC". Although with those Donbass territories, which are currently being held by the Ukrainian army, not everything is so obvious. According to the information coming from there, it is very difficult to call their local population Ukrainian or pro-Ukrainian.

In order to illustrate the attitude of the inhabitants of the “liberated” from the “terrorists” territories of Donbass towards Ukraine, let me give evidence of eyewitnesses.

Here are the impressions from the "Ukrainian" Donbass that Kiev journalist Yuliana Skibitskaya brought home:

“The other day I went to the ATO zone, to the liberated and front-line cities under the control of Ukraine. The local taxi driver from Kramatorsk, nicknamed the General, immediately warned:“ don’t say that you are a Kiev journalist. ”Of course, I didn’t listen to Ocheretny (a village not far from Donetsk), when I heard that I was from Kiev, unfolded with the words “yes, you went .... d.” In Popasna, 90% of the population is waiting for the “militia” to come and save the “Kiev junta” from power. , that from Pervomaisk, that in 19 km from Popasna, refugees fleeing to the city, tired of the LC Why did the separatists wait so much in Popasna? When I arrived at the Ukrainian military checkpoint, to my question, how did the fighters live with the local people from Popasna, I was told: “No. We do not recognize them, and they do not recognize us. "Popasna, despite the fact that there are no military operations conducted there (except for single attacks, by the way, separatists), did not become Ukrainian. And so far there is a" non-recognition regime between the Ukrainian military and local residents "and will not. As though the patriots would not broadcast it."

No less interestingly described the mood of the residents of the “Ukrainian” Mariupol Georgian sniper (ideological fighter with the Russian "imperialism"), bravely fighting with the "terrorists" in the ranks of one of the battalions of the National Guard. To the question of the journalist of the network resource of the Georgian non-governmental organization "Free Zone" about how the local population relates to the Ukrainian army and volunteer battalions, he answered the following:

"The city of Mariupol is on the front line of the front, until June it was controlled by the militants" DNR ", but the Ukrainian security forces were able to knock the enemy out of the city and keep him under control. From the point of view of the land corridor to the Crimea, the city is of strategic importance for Russia.

The majority of the population, about 80%, is hostile towards the Ukrainian army. The locals are old, women with children approach our positions, they take GPS coordinates. Within an hour after the appearance of "civilians", the bombardment of our positions begins.

In the city to walk without weapons not safe, anyone can run up behind him and stab him in the back. ... Almost the entire population of the city is pro-Russian, and supports the "DNR". Despite the knowledge of the Ukrainian language, the residents of Mariupol speak Russian. They consider themselves Russians, not Ukrainians. "

Interestingly, after the text of this interview got into social networks with comments by bloggers, the editors of the network’s Free Zone resource (the purpose of which is to create a united front for the fight against a reviving evil empire from the Baltic coast to the shores of the Caspian Sea and the dignity of all the peoples of the former Soviet bloc ") hastily removed it.

Naturally, objective information about the real moods of the residents of Donbass, in the name of Ukraine’s national security, is concealed, but, nevertheless, the Ukrainian authorities are forced to reckon with it. After all the whole "Ukrainian" Donbass is, in fact, a powder keg that can explode at any time.

Just as Kiev is forced to act in accordance with the obvious truth that recaptured by the militia from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard under the part of the Donbass is no longer Ukraine, and Ukraine will never be. Apparently, for this reason The Ukrainian president and the Ukrainian government have actually begun the process of recognizing the independence of the “DPR” and the “LPR”.

The first step towards this was the statement by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk, made by 5 November, that Kiev no longer intends to transfer funds for social benefits to the Donbass. This means Ukraine’s withdrawing from itself all social obligations of the state to the residents of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which Kiev continues to officially consider as part of Ukrainian territory.

After that, in mid-November, Petro Poroshenko signed a decree "On urgent measures to stabilize the socio-economic situation in Donetsk and Lugansk oblasts," in which he ordered to evacuate all state institutions and courts from the territory controlled by the "DPR" and "LPR". In other words, Kiev, therefore, officially turned the remnants of the Ukrainian administrative and judicial system on the territory of the rebellious republics.

At the same time, by his decree, the President of Ukraine instructed, within a month, to stop servicing the bank accounts of enterprises and the public in the zone of "special operations in the east of Ukraine." As it was said in this decree, “The National Bank of Ukraine should take measures within a month to stop servicing banks of accounts, including card, open to business entities of all forms of ownership and the population in certain territories in the area of ​​the antiterrorist operation in Donetsk and Lugansk regions”.

And in the twentieth of November, the National Bank of Ukraine demanded that Ukrainian commercial banks cease all financial operations in the territories controlled by the “DPR” and “LPR”. As stated in the NBU telegram, "in accordance with the requirements of paragraph 1 of Resolution No. XXUMX, the banks of Ukraine suspend operations in settlements that are not controlled by the Ukrainian authorities. These operations include, in particular, operations for servicing accounts by banks, including card open to business entities of all forms of ownership. "

Thus, this actually means that the territories of the “DPR” and “LPR” are already outside the financial system of Ukraine..

Interestingly, this decision of the Ukrainian authorities caused a negative reaction even from the pro-Ukrainian mayor of Donetsk, Alexander Lukianchenko, who addressed Arseniy Yatsenyuk with a letter, and stressed that the cessation of the work of branches of Ukrainian banks "makes it impossible to make payments for utilities, cash collection institutions, the payment of postal, bank transfers and other vital financial transactions. " But the Ukrainian government does not care.

In response to these actions of Kiev, representatives of the “DPR” said that the republic’s exit from the hryvnia zone would be offset by the introduction of settlements in rubles. According to Denis Pushilin, most likely on the territory of the “DPR” a dual-currency financial system will be introduced, under which calculations will be carried out both in Ukrainian hryvnias and in Russian rubles.

In turn, Deputy Minister of Health Alena Tereshchenko said that in the “DPR” and “LPR” the supply of drugs would be stopped. As she explained, "in the territories that, unfortunately, are temporarily occupied, today we have no opportunity to supply drugs. We are law-abiding Ukrainians, and we must comply with the president’s decree and the government’s decision to ban all aid to the occupied territories."

However, this is not all that the Ukrainian government plans to do in relation to the rebel republics.

For example, according to BBC Ukraine, the head of the Ukrainian government, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, admits that Ukraine will provide Donbas with electricity and gas only in exchange for its coal. It is not difficult to understand that such an exchange indicates that Donbass in Kiev is no longer considered a part of Ukraine.

The people's deputy of Ukraine, Tatiana Chornovol, who passed to the Verkhovna Rada on the list of Yatsenyuk’s party, also 26 of October on Radio Liberty announced that the territory of Donbass, which is not under the control of Kiev, should be separated from Ukraine and disconnected from the gas supply. “The task of the authorities is to clearly describe the plans, how to achieve victory, how to end the war and what we will achieve as a result. I believe that the occupied part of Donbass should be separated from Ukraine. This is a winning option for the state,” Chornovil said.

Apparently, it is this “victory plan” of separation of Donbass from Ukraine that the Ukrainian government is now implementing. The bankruptcy of the Ukrainian state makes its leadership de jure recognize the loss of Donbass.

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  1. Fedya
    Fedya 28 November 2014 06: 31
    To admit that they can and will recognize, but the bastards will burn out everything that can burn there!
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 28 November 2014 10: 23
      The narrow-minded politicians in the leadership of the fascist junta.
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    3. Donskoi
      Donskoi 28 November 2014 10: 51
      The genocide of Russian and pro-Russian people in the face.
      First, they destroyed the infrastructure (factories, enterprises - which the valiant Ukrainian army reached out to), and now they have stopped paying pensions and benefits. And from what incomes now to take? The junta's cynicism is sophisticated ... a progressive European eppt ...
      And Crimea was immediately cut off from the water ?! And something about the famine blather
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 November 2014 06: 34
    Ukrokhunta disconnected more than 250 Donbas life support facilities from electricity.
    The demonic boar plan in action.
  3. Revolver
    Revolver 28 November 2014 06: 41
    I believe that the occupied part of Donbass should be separated from Ukraine. This is a winning option for the state, "Chornovil said.
    Already the secession of the DPR and LPR is considered a "peremogy". Well, let's wish new "peremog" of ukrovlast, up to the secession of all Novorossia, from Kharkov to Odessa.
  4. sv68
    sv68 28 November 2014 06: 59
    everything that began in Donbass should end in Lviv, and together with the capture of Lviv province under complete control, the unfinished ukroina will sink into oblivion, I hope that forever.
    1. v-nikolai
      v-nikolai 28 November 2014 09: 12
      just don’t forget that at these plants under the control of 6 or 7 nuclear power plants and as many chemical plants, by the way, in 1989-1991, R&C funds were actively taken to Zaporizhia and Kharkov.
  5. Semenov
    Semenov 28 November 2014 07: 08
    The actions of the ukrovlast to separate the republics should be brought to the attention of the UN and the EU. In addition, it falls (probably) under the concept of genocide.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 November 2014 07: 52
    The bankruptcy of the Ukrainian state makes its leadership de jure admit the loss of Donbass.

    Perhaps they recognize (in the depths of what a normal person calls a soul) loss, therefore they systematically destroy the entire infrastructure of Donbass and industrial facilities. According to the principle: "don't you get it to anyone!" Fascist methods.
  7. PeterNOR
    PeterNOR 28 November 2014 07: 53
    Without neutralizing the Kiev "centers" of the war, it will not be possible to fix the situation.
  8. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 28 November 2014 07: 56
    Kiev now has the main task of "saving face".
    they do not want to admit the loss, but they still cannot win. There is only one way out - to leave, but with a maximum political surplus like "I didn't really want to" smile
    1. Trom
      Trom 28 November 2014 12: 38
      Kiev now has the main task of "saving face".

      Taking into account the Kiev aspirations to "European values", the phrase "to save face", as I understand it, means the safety of another part of the body for the use of true Europeans?
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 28 November 2014 08: 08
    dill in practice use the tactics of the burnt earth from the Yankees, "if not for us, then for no one," poor, still on their knees they will beg "forgive" ...
  10. Ivanhoe
    Ivanhoe 28 November 2014 08: 12
    The Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic was much harder (economically), it is sandwiched between the ruins and Moldova, but it lives on! And Novorossia has natural resources, access to the sea and the border with the Russian Federation! so I must survive!
  11. siberalt
    siberalt 28 November 2014 08: 34
    These republics should be recognized, but they are not yet mentally organized. What are they pulling, do not understand? And what prevents them from uniting into a single state? Many misunderstandings.
    1. pahom54
      pahom54 28 November 2014 12: 42
      Quote: siberalt
      And what prevents them

      As always - a thirst for power ... Everyone wants to see themselves above, above everyone, and does not allow themselves to think about an agreement, setting a goal, choosing a leader to whom everyone will obey ... And without obeying order, this is anarchy, which is nothing but harm won't bring ...
    2. mervino2007
      mervino2007 28 November 2014 23: 19
      sibiralt (5) "And what prevents them from uniting into a single state?"

      And what prevents them from uniting is the fact that Poland in the Middle Ages also prevented from creating an effective leadership of the country. Read the article by A. Marchukov here:
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  12. Vadim237
    Vadim237 28 November 2014 10: 15
    This is the World of shelling to infinity.
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 28 November 2014 12: 22
      Donbass will never become Ukrainian again.
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  13. BlackJack
    BlackJack 28 November 2014 10: 16
    Oh well
    forgot only Donbass to ask whether they will be isolated or other proposals have
  14. wild
    wild 28 November 2014 10: 40
    You can reason and think about everything, however, with the development of the situation according to the current plan with constant shelling, together with the blockade, the DPR and LPR will spring to a state of clean field. The plan is simple and clear, with constant shelling and the inability to just live, forcing the DNI and LC to sign surrender. Only by pushing the Ukrainian army away from megacities is it possible to continue the republics. And for this you need to see what Novorossia does not have yet.
  15. Cristall
    Cristall 28 November 2014 11: 22
    categorically against the printing of information torn out of context, aimed only at worsening the attitude towards Ukrainians (Ukraine) during this conflict.
    Firstly, Ukraine does not refuse and will not refuse either from Donbass or from Crimea. Everyone is talking about it. From the president to the ruling coalition.
    Secondly, the information provided in the article is that on ter. liberated Ukrainian. army - they hate it, the fact that in Mariupol they "hate Ukrainians" is an absolute lie. Recently, a conversation with a Mariupol citizen about their love for the "militias" has already been presented here - a diametrically opposite assessment.
    Thirdly, the information laid out that Kiev does not intend to transfer funds is not that incomplete. It is specially cropped to depict Ukraine negatively.
    Complete information about the "ban"
    On November 5, the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk publicly stated that Kiev no longer intends to transfer funds to Donbass for social payments for those residents who had the opportunity to reissue them in the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk regions controlled by the Ukrainian army and authorities, but did not do so.
    Why am I reading everywhere without a deadline? Especially so that people do not understand what is going on?
    The author works for the information war disgusting ...
    I like to read the lines that Kiev is rolling out its systems in the DPR ... forgive me and that the militias give the Ukrainian courts, prosecutors and other structures the opportunity to work?
    Well, the quintessence of the article
    The majority of the population, about 80%, is hostile to the Ukrainian army. Locals - old people, women with children approach our positions, take GPS coordinates.

    that is, the author calculated 80% ... and moreover, he admits that mothers with children take the coordinates ..
    People - let's better think with our brains, and not tell ourselves the thoughts of "similar authors"
    If you look at it, the author will assure you that Ukrainians hate the army, "waiting for the militias" "Mariupol is for us"
    the Ukrainian army will not hold out there (the author kills her there with knives)
    and evil Ukraine does not give money to pensioners .. but does not print what does not give to those who have not reissued for issuance on ter. controlled by the Ukrainian army (because it cannot carry money to the DPR)
    The bill on the restoration of social payments to residents of Donbass registered in the Verkhovna Rada
    It was initiated by deputies of the Verkhovna Rada from the "Opposition bloc".
    In particular, the authors of the bill were Natalia Korolevskaya, Yuri Pavlenko, Sergey Levochkin, Nestor Shufrich, Alexander Vilkul. This was reported on the website of the Rada of Ukraine.
    "Donetsk and Luhansk regions are the same part of Ukraine as our other regions, and obligations to our citizens must be fulfilled in full," the opposition said
    Earlier it became known that social activists of Donbass urge Kiev not to stop social payments to residents of the DPR and LPR. Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk considers it impossible to resume social payments in the territories of Donbass controlled by terrorists.
    “We cannot send money. They rob banks, rob people, rob cash-in-transit vehicles. We cannot deliver funds there,” the prime minister said. He recalled that “all funds are accumulated in the government. As soon as the Kremlin takes its bandits from the territory of Ukraine and we will restore control over the entire territory of the state, we will be able to pay all social benefits. "
    I am not telling you to believe Yatsu. He's still a liar ... But I urge you to think about how to carry out the issuance of money in a territory that you cannot control? How? Was there such an experience in Chechnya? Despite the efforts of the authors to show that Kiev "resigned" Kiev "lost" Kiev "does not want" --- Kiev will. He has no other choice ... but the struggle for minds.
  16. Agent 008
    Agent 008 28 November 2014 11: 30
    Given the situation, Russia must now do everything to ensure that the DPR and LPR live this winter in more or less human conditions! Yes, and it is time for Putin to more decisively declare the recognition of the DPR and LPR, anyway the West will not change its line towards Russia ... It's time to attract Donbass to Russia, otherwise a humanitarian catastrophe cannot be avoided there! Well, if Putin continues to keep repeating that “we are not participating in anything” and “that Russia (in his words) has a defensive position,” then nothing good will come of it ...
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  18. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 November 2014 11: 37
    <<< Kiev, thus, officially closed the remnants of the Ukrainian administrative and judicial system on the territory of the rebellious republics. At the same time, the President of Ukraine, by his decree, instructed to stop servicing bank accounts of enterprises and the population in the zone of "special operations in eastern Ukraine" within a month. >>>
    In order to create the minimum necessary living conditions for the population of Novorossia, the authorities with great difficulty are already trying to restore power supply and water supply facilities, residential buildings, to establish ways of supplying the population, but punishers are immediately incapacitated by constant shelling and fighting! Obviously, the Kiev junta, not without the participation of the overseas Biden, decided Donbass and Lugansk with all the problems already created and created there by the junta, as they say, "hang" on Russia! At the same time, the junta will continue to do everything possible to prevent the authorities of Novorossiya and Russia from solving these problems, to restore the economy, everyday life, to provide people with everything they need, i.e. thereby trying to turn Novorossiya into a "black" financial hole for Russia!
  19. Bubyr
    Bubyr 28 November 2014 12: 02
    I'm afraid that Russia will have to take on social spending in the DPR and LPR. What is the general situation in small towns of Donetsk region? Who from there inform
  20. RoTTor
    RoTTor 28 November 2014 12: 18
    Urgently introduce peacekeeping forces. Better to help for real. In order not to get Russophobia from the Donetsk people for two hundred years.
  21. 23424636
    23424636 28 November 2014 12: 18
    Donbass has not received pensions for 4 months since June 2 days ago Oschadbank closed the bank of a friend Yatsenyuk monopoly working here. Payments began, but nothing, we lived with coupons for 6 years and will live with the ruble. The BVNKs need to open the Abkhaz and Ossetian or the Hawala transfer system (horror for the bankers' Khaims) and open the zone of duty-free goods through the sea gate - Novoazovsk. Donbass- freedom.
    1. Zverboy
      Zverboy 28 November 2014 18: 03
      Now all Ukrainian banks have been banned from working there. A friend works in a company, so they have 5 stores there, right now they are thinking about closing it soon, because without a bank there is nowhere to put the proceeds + a letter has come about paying taxes in cash ...
  22. Agent 008
    Agent 008 28 November 2014 13: 35
    Quote: RoTTor
    Urgently introduce peacekeeping forces. Better to help for real. In order not to get Russophobia from the Donetsk people for two hundred years.

    I agree! It's time ...
  23. Wolka
    Wolka 28 November 2014 13: 49
    Ukraine, with its ATO, has finally discredited itself as a nation, a nation incapable of settling internal political differences becomes an outcast with all the ensuing consequences ...
  24. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 1 December 2014 17: 17
    And what about the gas heard? We supply or not (to Ukraine). And then something is silence!