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Marines will jump from 8 thousand meters

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The airborne forces are planning to train around 300 fighters by the end of next year, who will be able to jump from 8-kilometer height, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the representative of the press service of the Ministry of Defense Yevgeny Meshkov.



According to the plans of the command, a battalion will appear in the airborne forces, capable of landing from heights from 4-x to 8 km and a unit of instructors in altitude-landing training.

“The basic training program for high-altitude specialists is designed for five to ten weeks, taking into account practical parachute jumps from 100 to 250, with a delayed opening of the main parachute from 80 to 130 seconds,” said Meshkov.

The representative of the military department immediately made a reservation that “there will be no mass leaps from exorbitant heights, this is the privilege of intelligence officers and other special forces”. “In addition, not“ Crossbows ”will be used for combat use, with the help of which one can only train, but completely different and still secret parachute systems,” he explained.

The possibility of jumping from a great height was studied not only in Russia, but also in the USA. By the way, there such jumps became already routine, but they are also used only in special divisions.

And what gives high-altitude landing? According to the officer, the commando can leave the plane "for tens of kilometers from the planned landing site, then quietly plan and land straight to the point."

“Modern systems have a semi-automatic parachute control system at given coordinates. As a rule, the landing takes place at night, parachutes camouflaging coloring, and see the special forces in the sky is almost impossible. Such jumps are very difficult. In addition to weapons and other equipment on the paratrooper placed special oxygen equipment, "- he said.

The US has long been ahead of Russia in the high-altitude landing. The situation began to change several years ago, after the Chief of the General Staff approved the experimental program of special parachute training. According to Meshkov, this program has been mastered, and the created equipment and parachute systems are in the process of being put into service. Domestic products in terms of characteristics are not inferior to American ones and allow you to perform tasks anywhere in the world.
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  1. xavbek7
    xavbek7 27 November 2014 15: 36
    +14
    It's time to overtake amers!
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 27 November 2014 15: 47
      +27
      Video in topic wink

      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 27 November 2014 15: 52
        +10
        By the way, they were recently created.

        The Russian Ministry of Defense has begun to create special operations forces. The command of the special operations forces has already been formed.
      2. viruvalge412ee
        viruvalge412ee 27 November 2014 16: 37
        +2
        If so, then it's just brilliance! I want to sincerely believe in it !!! Let these be all the soldiers of our Russian army!
    2. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 27 November 2014 15: 56
      +31
      Quote: xavbek7
      It's time to overtake amers!

      And not just catch up!
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 27 November 2014 16: 12
      +2
      And it would not be sick to connect the mail of Russia to this! And delivery is faster and airborne to help. laughing A joke, of course. On for our airborne pride. good
    4. The comment was deleted.
    5. Zhekson
      Zhekson 27 November 2014 19: 31
      +1
      We must invite Rozov to train paratroopers! All will become base jumpers.
  2. sub307
    sub307 27 November 2014 15: 38
    +3
    Well, good luck to those fighters both in heaven and on earth.
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 27 November 2014 15: 38
    +3
    The right decision, we are closing our gap with the Americans in this regard.
  4. Bassoon
    Bassoon 27 November 2014 15: 38
    +2
    And there, up to 10 thousand are nearby.
  5. REXSTORZ
    REXSTORZ 27 November 2014 15: 39
    +4
    good news) I’m glad that work is being done in this direction
    oo special forces of the airborne forces "Black Death" or "Death of Heaven"))
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 27 November 2014 15: 42
      +2
      Only very strong armies can have paratroopers in the army that can jump from such heights.
  6. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 27 November 2014 15: 41
    +2
    With such paratroopers we will win! good
    1. viruvalge412ee
      viruvalge412ee 27 November 2014 16: 28
      0
      We will win, for sure, especially if they train totally on taken representatives of the enemies in person, one on one and to death.
  7. Yellow white
    Yellow white 27 November 2014 15: 41
    +2
    I think it’s just decided to declassify what has long been ... and promoted to the masses hi
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 27 November 2014 16: 47
      +2
      Quote: Black and White
      I think it’s just decided to declassify what has long been ... and promoted to the masses

      Everything is far from empty. I remember in 76 the warrant officer with an exorbitant number of jumps (OKDO division) spoke about jumping from the Yak - 28 from bomb bombs, I think I’m surely not from 1000m. jumped.
  8. RusDV
    RusDV 27 November 2014 15: 43
    +3
    Well, pin.dos taught high-altitude landing of their astronauts, probably .... smile Opps maybe with Russian rocket launchers! log off. Then, there they can and a trampoline, but leave like this ...
  9. doxtop
    doxtop 27 November 2014 15: 47
    +3
    Let them first read the historical information about the high jumps performed by our women in the 30s of the last century)))
    1. Trolleborg
      Trolleborg 27 November 2014 16: 06
      0
      This is still the case with stewardesses of government planes - if the passenger is dissatisfied, the guard throws her out without reduction, the personnel department dismisses him by telegram, and the MTR is searched and taken away so that no one guesses.
  10. Denis
    Denis 27 November 2014 15: 48
    +3
    According to the officer, the commando can leave the plane "for tens of kilometers from the planned landing site, then silently plan and land right at the point."
    It’s clear that for specialists
    The United States has long been ahead of Russia in high-altitude landing.
    Everything is muddy here, maybe they just didn’t consider it necessary to inform anyone of the merits?
    When jumping from a height of several tens of kilometers, at least you will need a spacesuit with an autonomous oxygen system of a closed type and heating of the gas circulating in it (TsAGI was already made in the 1930-s.)
    The evidence, of course, is indirect, but the suit was done for some task
    And the stratospheres were long ago
    in the 1933 — 1934 years, the USSR-1 and Osoaviahim-1 stratostats were built. 30 September 1933 "USSR-1" designed by K. D. Godunov made a flight to an altitude of 19 km
    Postage stamp with the image of the stratospheric balloon "USSR-1"
  11. Andrey77
    Andrey77 27 November 2014 15: 58
    0
    In the book of records - yes, but military use ... Tell me about the landing.
    1. ROD VDVshny
      ROD VDVshny 27 November 2014 19: 49
      +2
      Quote: Andrey77
      but combat use ... Desantura tell

      Massive landing from high altitudes is pointless - a jump with a long delay in opening the parachute is much more complicated than usual, there is a wide spread, more time to collect, etc.
      But the most important thing is that people who are already consciously behaving in the air from the beginning to the end can be allowed to master this method, while the first-time student is only 28 hours of training before the first jump laughing The preparation is indeed very difficult.
      So - this is the lot of special forces and intelligence. Such jumps became available with the adoption of the new Arbalet parachute system and specially designed oxygen equipment.
      Throwing an RDG, or several RDGs, is possible even from its own territory. A flying wing parachute (or "mattress" lol ) has the possibility of significant horizontal planning. With 7-8 thousand, you can fly in this way for many tens of kilometers to the rear of the enemy. "Crossbow" allows you to do this with a significant load. Receivers such as GiPs and GLONASS will ensure the accuracy of the parachutists' exit to the collection point, + "Crossbow" is perfectly controllable. What's more ... this is a completely military model, not a sports parachute adapted for military use.
      The Israelis have experience in the combat use of such RDGs and methods of delivery, and for a long time. As far as I remember, the RDG flew 30 km to the rear to the Arabs, well, it fulfilled its task, it nudged a lot in the "soft underbelly".
      1. FACKtoREAL
        FACKtoREAL 27 November 2014 22: 34
        +1
        Well, and WHAT are the problems of modern RTS to detect and give the coordinates of the landing of such a flock of soaring parachutists, hung with "pieces of iron" ... even from 10, even from 000 meters?
        One dry powder in aluminum foil will produce EPR - several dm.2
        And buckles, clasps, weapons - a few more dm. 2
        It is enough to enter this type of target into the radar comp, and .... the identification will be made - AUTOMATICALLY.
      2. Roman 57 rus
        Roman 57 rus 28 November 2014 02: 04
        0
        Yes, and also note that the height (8 thousand) is slightly higher than the MANPADS operating area (6,5 thousand).
  12. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 November 2014 15: 59
    0
    It’s a bird’s costume and you can jump for tens of kilometers from the landing site.
    1. ROD VDVshny
      ROD VDVshny 27 November 2014 19: 57
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      Bird costume and you can jump tens of kilometers from the landing site

      Practically useless in combat use. The person going to carry out a combat mission is hung with weapons and equipment, special equipment, etc. Often with a cargo container - with it you can barely hobble to the ramp of the plane, the aerodynamics of the "bird" suffers greatly. While this is the lot of "people with steel eggs" negative
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 27 November 2014 20: 04
        +1
        it’s just hard for people to imagine themselves in the place of a fighter, and here they draw images of icars
      2. Bort radist
        Bort radist 29 November 2014 07: 07
        0
        Quote: CONNECTING ROD VDVshny
        Going to complete a combat mission hung with weapons and equipment, special equipment, etc. Often with a cargo container - with it you can barely hobble to the plane ramp, the aerodynamics of the "bird" suffers greatly.

        Weapons and ........ separately, birds separately. Everything is on itself the last century.
  13. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 27 November 2014 16: 01
    +1
    Nevsky is right. These are not regular troops. Specialists of the Airborne Forces. Pogon-officers. They won’t throw a conscript or cricket from such a height. It’s a difficult preparation.
  14. Tribuns
    Tribuns 27 November 2014 16: 03
    0
    In the Russian army, from the moment of the collapse of the Union to the period of "rule" of the furniture maker Taburetkin, much was lost and forgotten what our Soviet army was capable of, including high-altitude landing ... Now it is being restored again ... And no one answered for the collapse army and navy!
  15. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 27 November 2014 16: 03
    0
    Interestingly, they used to fight to reduce the drop height, especially for "scouts and saboteurs", which is generally logical in terms of stealth. Now, on the contrary, they train jumping practically from the height of commercial flights, but the military, of course, knows better what it is for.
    1. Trolleborg
      Trolleborg 27 November 2014 16: 15
      0
      For an ejection from charters, if aerodynamics are decided, speed is more dangerous than altitude.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 27 November 2014 16: 17
      +1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Now, on the contrary, they practice jumping from almost the height of commercial flights, but the military certainly knows better why this is necessary.

      And what gives high-altitude landing? According to the officer, the commando can leave the plane "for tens of kilometers from the planned landing site, then quietly plan and land straight to the point."

      As the current gliding guided munitions: "Bam-bang and to the point!" ("Wedding in Malinovka")
      And if you also plant our formidable construction battalion, which "- even weapons are not given out" ?!
    3. Bort radist
      Bort radist 27 November 2014 16: 50
      -1
      Quote: chunga-changa
      Interestingly, they used to fight to reduce the height of the drop, especially for "scouts and saboteurs",

      250 and 150 meters were thrown into the forest at night. But one, two domes - piece specialists were.
  16. silver169
    silver169 27 November 2014 16: 13
    +1
    With 8 thousand meters !!! Tall, however. Good luck to our paratroopers!
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 27 November 2014 16: 25
      0
      but how could it be otherwise? when the news appeared that the paratroopers could fly 50 km horizontally) they minus for telling them that they would have to jump with oxygen tanks and almost from the stratosphere, and that there would be no conscripts there.
      Now these same pluses in the opposite direction ...
  17. Gans1234
    Gans1234 27 November 2014 16: 14
    0
    Elite sabotage special forces based on the airborne forces - it's high time.
  18. Letnab
    Letnab 27 November 2014 16: 20
    +1
    I don’t understand why the author’s parachute "Crossbow" doesn’t suit ... normal technique, even for jumps from great heights and with a delay in opening the parachute, you can hang an additional load on the suspension.
    In the early 90s, as he was talking to one friend, at that time the marine was already of pre-retirement age, and somehow he mentioned that he jumped from high altitudes, including for performing combat missions, did not tell anything else. But I concluded from that conversation that our Soviet Army does not show much either. So the article surprised me a little, they present it as if we had never had such a thing.
  19. Humpty
    Humpty 27 November 2014 16: 42
    -1
    Wonderful . If only not as they tried to implement it before. I bow my head for the deadly recklessness and God be the judge of the commanders. The Russian extram "managed" to repeat the idea of ​​the reckless military leaders, though without sacrifices, but with an unparalleled scam for the money of those guys who provided them with life ... Hello from Santer in rubber boots.
  20. Bort radist
    Bort radist 27 November 2014 17: 01
    +2
    For any something like this costume, flying squirrel. Special forces cannot pass by such opportunities. The parachute will be used at the final stage of flight.
  21. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 27 November 2014 17: 08
    +3
    I remember in the 60s in the newspaper "Krasnaya Zvezda" there was a photo report about the drop of an assault force from a height of 100 meters. So in the photo, the parachute at an altitude of 50 m was just opening, and fully opened when the parachutist had already landed! I think so, it is more difficult and more dangerous to jump from such a height than from 8000 meters. Although in any case, there are two points of view.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 27 November 2014 17: 25
      0
      So in the photo the parachute at an altitude of 50 m only opened
      let's say there was an "oak", from a hundred, but in no way
      at a height of 50 m only revealed
      1. Letnab
        Letnab 28 November 2014 14: 42
        0
        well, we jumped for fun on the "oak" from 100 meters, no problem,
  22. cergey51046
    cergey51046 27 November 2014 17: 10
    0
    What for? Are there few rockets?
  23. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 27 November 2014 17: 57
    0
    Quote: silver169
    With 8 thousand meters !!! Tall, however. Good luck to our paratroopers!

    Nothing, normal! Over the hill such jumps have long been practiced. It's time for us to catch up. Good luck to the peasants! Glory to the Airborne Forces!
  24. Throw
    Throw 27 November 2014 19: 19
    +1
    We have 8 there and 80!
    Happy Birthday Space Infantry! soldier
  25. Budilnik
    Budilnik 27 November 2014 21: 46
    +1
    I will never forget my CWP teacher at school, his kingdom is heavenly. He had a tattoo on his shoulder with a parachutist and the inscription: "From any heights to any hell", he was a cool guy.
  26. Rzhevsky
    Rzhevsky 27 November 2014 23: 03
    +2
    Back in the 70s there was a high-altitude jumping technique, the IDA71P apparatus, made for parachuting, works at a height like an oxygen mask, then like a breathing apparatus of a diver.
    I am shocked by such "news", either PR is not enough, or the generation that knows how is lost ...
    Here's ultra-low jumping is the topic. A long time ago, when there was no concept of base jumping, I remember reading about the USSR recorder, midshipman Bragin jumped from 42 meters! Good luck. The equipment was still that.
    It is necessary to take into account the additional weight of all iron, which is about 40 kg per unit soldier.
    The article did not surprise, but rather upset.
    Now less than 10 km altitude is irrelevant, in our time it is time to use the civilian side for delivery. And they have a 10km horizon.
  27. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 27 November 2014 23: 21
    +3
    Quote: Starover_Z
    And if you also plant our formidable construction battalion, which "- even weapons are not given out" ?!

    No need to land! Just give a map, a compass, indicate a point on the map and drop that the commanders will appear there a few days later! wassat
  28. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 27 November 2014 23: 40
    0
    Quote: PANEL VDVshny
    Quote: Andrey77
    but combat use ... Desantura tell

    Massive landing from high altitudes is pointless - a jump with a long delay in opening the parachute is much more complicated than usual, there is a wide spread, more time to collect, etc.
    But the most important thing is that people who are already consciously behaving in the air from the beginning to the end can be allowed to master this method, while the first-time student is only 28 hours of training before the first jump laughing The preparation is indeed very difficult.
    So - this is the lot of special forces and intelligence. Such jumps became available with the adoption of the new Arbalet parachute system and specially designed oxygen equipment.
    Throwing an RDG, or several RDGs, is possible even from its own territory. A flying wing parachute (or "mattress" lol ) has the possibility of significant horizontal planning. With 7-8 thousand, you can fly in this way for many tens of kilometers to the rear of the enemy. "Crossbow" allows you to do this with a significant load. Receivers such as GiPs and GLONASS will ensure the accuracy of the parachutists' exit to the collection point, + "Crossbow" is perfectly controllable. What's more ... this is a completely military model, not a sports parachute adapted for military use.
    The Israelis have experience in the combat use of such RDGs and methods of delivery, and for a long time. As far as I remember, the RDG flew 30 km to the rear to the Arabs, well, it fulfilled its task, it nudged a lot in the "soft underbelly".



    Planning with a parachute from such a height is complete stupidity. This immediately put the whole group under fire from anti-aircraft artillery and small arms.

    Here, more likely, special suits will work, like a "bat".
  29. Wolka
    Wolka 28 November 2014 06: 41
    0
    zer gut, zer gut ...