Marines will jump from 8 thousand meters

The airborne forces are planning to train around 300 fighters by the end of next year, who will be able to jump from 8-kilometer height, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to the representative of the press service of the Ministry of Defense Yevgeny Meshkov.

According to the plans of the command, a battalion will appear in the airborne forces, capable of landing from heights from 4-x to 8 km and a unit of instructors in altitude-landing training.

“The basic training program for high-altitude specialists is designed for five to ten weeks, taking into account practical parachute jumps from 100 to 250, with a delayed opening of the main parachute from 80 to 130 seconds,” said Meshkov.

The representative of the military department immediately made a reservation that “there will be no mass leaps from exorbitant heights, this is the privilege of intelligence officers and other special forces”. “In addition, not“ Crossbows ”will be used for combat use, with the help of which one can only train, but completely different and still secret parachute systems,” he explained.

The possibility of jumping from a great height was studied not only in Russia, but also in the USA. By the way, there such jumps became already routine, but they are also used only in special divisions.

And what gives high-altitude landing? According to the officer, the commando can leave the plane "for tens of kilometers from the planned landing site, then quietly plan and land straight to the point."

“Modern systems have a semi-automatic parachute control system at given coordinates. As a rule, the landing takes place at night, parachutes camouflaging coloring, and see the special forces in the sky is almost impossible. Such jumps are very difficult. In addition to weapons and other equipment on the paratrooper placed special oxygen equipment, "- he said.

The US has long been ahead of Russia in the high-altitude landing. The situation began to change several years ago, after the Chief of the General Staff approved the experimental program of special parachute training. According to Meshkov, this program has been mastered, and the created equipment and parachute systems are in the process of being put into service. Domestic products in terms of characteristics are not inferior to American ones and allow you to perform tasks anywhere in the world.

Comments

[xavbek7]

It's time to overtake amers!

[Nevsky_ZU]

Video in topic

[Lord of the Sith]

By the way, they were recently created.

The Russian Ministry of Defense has begun to create special operations forces. The command of the special operations forces has already been formed.

[viruvalge412ee]

If so, then it's just brilliance! I want to sincerely believe in it !!! Let these be all the soldiers of our Russian army!

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: xavbek7

It's time to overtake amers!

And not just catch up!

[siberalt]

And it would not be sick to connect the mail of Russia to this! And delivery is faster and airborne to help. A joke, of course. On for our airborne pride.

[Zhekson]

We must invite Rozov to train paratroopers! All will become base jumpers.

[sub307]

Well, good luck to those fighters both in heaven and on earth.

[Giant thought]

The right decision, we are closing our gap with the Americans in this regard.

[Bassoon]

And there, up to 10 thousand are nearby.

[REXSTORZ]

good news) I’m glad that work is being done in this direction
oo special forces of the airborne forces "Black Death" or "Death of Heaven"))

[Penelope]

Only very strong armies can have paratroopers in the army that can jump from such heights.

[Viktor Kudinov]

With such paratroopers we will win!

[viruvalge412ee]

We will win, for sure, especially if they train totally on taken representatives of the enemies in person, one on one and to death.

[Yellow white]

I think it’s just decided to declassify what has long been ... and promoted to the masses

[Bort radist]

Quote: Black and White

I think it’s just decided to declassify what has long been ... and promoted to the masses

Everything is far from empty. I remember in 76 the warrant officer with an exorbitant number of jumps (OKDO division) spoke about jumping from the Yak - 28 from bomb bombs, I think I’m surely not from 1000m. jumped.

[RusDV]

Well, pin.dos taught high-altitude landing of their astronauts, probably .... Opps maybe with Russian rocket launchers! log off. Then, there they can and a trampoline, but leave like this ...

[doxtop]

Let them first read the historical information about the high jumps performed by our women in the 30s of the last century)))

[Trolleborg]

This is still the case with stewardesses of government planes - if the passenger is dissatisfied, the guard throws her out without reduction, the personnel department dismisses him by telegram, and the MTR is searched and taken away so that no one guesses.

[Denis]

According to the officer, the commando can leave the plane "for tens of kilometers from the planned landing site, then silently plan and land right at the point."

It’s clear that for specialists

The United States has long been ahead of Russia in high-altitude landing.

Everything is muddy here, maybe they just didn’t consider it necessary to inform anyone of the merits?

When jumping from a height of several tens of kilometers, at least you will need a spacesuit with an autonomous oxygen system of a closed type and heating of the gas circulating in it (TsAGI was already made in the 1930-s.)

The evidence, of course, is indirect, but the suit was done for some task
And the stratospheres were long ago

in the 1933 — 1934 years, the USSR-1 and Osoaviahim-1 stratostats were built. 30 September 1933 "USSR-1" designed by K. D. Godunov made a flight to an altitude of 19 km

Postage stamp with the image of the stratospheric balloon "USSR-1"

[Andrey77]

In the book of records - yes, but military use ... Tell me about the landing.

[ROD VDVshny]

Quote: Andrey77

but combat use ... Desantura tell

Massive landing from high altitudes is pointless - a jump with a long delay in opening the parachute is much more complicated than usual, there is a wide spread, more time to collect, etc.
But the most important thing is that people who are already consciously behaving in the air from the beginning to the end can be allowed to master this method, while the first-time student is only 28 hours of training before the first jump The preparation is indeed very difficult.
So - this is the lot of special forces and intelligence. Such jumps became available with the adoption of the new Arbalet parachute system and specially designed oxygen equipment.
Throwing an RDG, or several RDGs, is possible even from its own territory. A flying wing parachute (or "mattress" ) has the possibility of significant horizontal planning. With 7-8 thousand, you can fly in this way for many tens of kilometers to the rear of the enemy. "Crossbow" allows you to do this with a significant load. Receivers such as GiPs and GLONASS will ensure the accuracy of the parachutists' exit to the collection point, + "Crossbow" is perfectly controllable. What's more ... this is a completely military model, not a sports parachute adapted for military use.
The Israelis have experience in the combat use of such RDGs and methods of delivery, and for a long time. As far as I remember, the RDG flew 30 km to the rear to the Arabs, well, it fulfilled its task, it nudged a lot in the "soft underbelly".

[FACKtoREAL]

Well, and WHAT are the problems of modern RTS to detect and give the coordinates of the landing of such a flock of soaring parachutists, hung with "pieces of iron" ... even from 10, even from 000 meters?
One dry powder in aluminum foil will produce EPR - several dm.2
And buckles, clasps, weapons - a few more dm. 2
It is enough to enter this type of target into the radar comp, and .... the identification will be made - AUTOMATICALLY.

[Roman 57 rus]

Yes, and also note that the height (8 thousand) is slightly higher than the MANPADS operating area (6,5 thousand).

[dchegrinec]

It’s a bird’s costume and you can jump for tens of kilometers from the landing site.

[ROD VDVshny]

Quote: dchegrinec

Bird costume and you can jump tens of kilometers from the landing site

Practically useless in combat use. The person going to carry out a combat mission is hung with weapons and equipment, special equipment, etc. Often with a cargo container - with it you can barely hobble to the ramp of the plane, the aerodynamics of the "bird" suffers greatly. While this is the lot of "people with steel eggs"

[Hleb]

it’s just hard for people to imagine themselves in the place of a fighter, and here they draw images of icars

[Bort radist]

Quote: CONNECTING ROD VDVshny

Going to complete a combat mission hung with weapons and equipment, special equipment, etc. Often with a cargo container - with it you can barely hobble to the plane ramp, the aerodynamics of the "bird" suffers greatly.

Weapons and ........ separately, birds separately. Everything is on itself the last century.

[TECHNOLOGY]

Nevsky is right. These are not regular troops. Specialists of the Airborne Forces. Pogon-officers. They won’t throw a conscript or cricket from such a height. It’s a difficult preparation.

[Tribuns]

In the Russian army, from the moment of the collapse of the Union to the period of "rule" of the furniture maker Taburetkin, much was lost and forgotten what our Soviet army was capable of, including high-altitude landing ... Now it is being restored again ... And no one answered for the collapse army and navy!

[chunga-changa]

Interestingly, they used to fight to reduce the drop height, especially for "scouts and saboteurs", which is generally logical in terms of stealth. Now, on the contrary, they train jumping practically from the height of commercial flights, but the military, of course, knows better what it is for.

[Trolleborg]

For an ejection from charters, if aerodynamics are decided, speed is more dangerous than altitude.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: chunga-changa

Now, on the contrary, they practice jumping from almost the height of commercial flights, but the military certainly knows better why this is necessary.

And what gives high-altitude landing? According to the officer, the commando can leave the plane "for tens of kilometers from the planned landing site, then quietly plan and land straight to the point."

As the current gliding guided munitions: "Bam-bang and to the point!" ("Wedding in Malinovka")
And if you also plant our formidable construction battalion, which "- even weapons are not given out" ?!

[Bort radist]

Quote: chunga-changa

Interestingly, they used to fight to reduce the height of the drop, especially for "scouts and saboteurs",

250 and 150 meters were thrown into the forest at night. But one, two domes - piece specialists were.

[silver169]

With 8 thousand meters !!! Tall, however. Good luck to our paratroopers!

[Hleb]

but how could it be otherwise? when the news appeared that the paratroopers could fly 50 km horizontally) they minus for telling them that they would have to jump with oxygen tanks and almost from the stratosphere, and that there would be no conscripts there.
Now these same pluses in the opposite direction ...

[Gans1234]

Elite sabotage special forces based on the airborne forces - it's high time.

[Letnab]

I don’t understand why the author’s parachute "Crossbow" doesn’t suit ... normal technique, even for jumps from great heights and with a delay in opening the parachute, you can hang an additional load on the suspension.
In the early 90s, as he was talking to one friend, at that time the marine was already of pre-retirement age, and somehow he mentioned that he jumped from high altitudes, including for performing combat missions, did not tell anything else. But I concluded from that conversation that our Soviet Army does not show much either. So the article surprised me a little, they present it as if we had never had such a thing.

[Humpty]

Wonderful . If only not as they tried to implement it before. I bow my head for the deadly recklessness and God be the judge of the commanders. The Russian extram "managed" to repeat the idea of ​​the reckless military leaders, though without sacrifices, but with an unparalleled scam for the money of those guys who provided them with life ... Hello from Santer in rubber boots.

[Bort radist]

For any something like this costume, flying squirrel. Special forces cannot pass by such opportunities. The parachute will be used at the final stage of flight.

[16112014nk]

I remember in the 60s in the newspaper "Krasnaya Zvezda" there was a photo report about the drop of an assault force from a height of 100 meters. So in the photo, the parachute at an altitude of 50 m was just opening, and fully opened when the parachutist had already landed! I think so, it is more difficult and more dangerous to jump from such a height than from 8000 meters. Although in any case, there are two points of view.

[Hleb]

So in the photo the parachute at an altitude of 50 m only opened

let's say there was an "oak", from a hundred, but in no way

at a height of 50 m only revealed

[Letnab]

well, we jumped for fun on the "oak" from 100 meters, no problem,

[cergey51046]

What for? Are there few rockets?

[x.andvlad]

Quote: silver169

With 8 thousand meters !!! Tall, however. Good luck to our paratroopers!

Nothing, normal! Over the hill such jumps have long been practiced. It's time for us to catch up. Good luck to the peasants! Glory to the Airborne Forces!

[Throw]

We have 8 there and 80!
Happy Birthday Space Infantry!

[Alarm clock]

I will never forget my CWP teacher at school, his kingdom is heavenly. He had a tattoo on his shoulder with a parachutist and the inscription: "From any heights to any hell", he was a cool guy.

[Rzhevsky]

Back in the 70s there was a high-altitude jumping technique, the IDA71P apparatus, made for parachuting, works at a height like an oxygen mask, then like a breathing apparatus of a diver.
I am shocked by such "news", either PR is not enough, or the generation that knows how is lost ...
Here's ultra-low jumping is the topic. A long time ago, when there was no concept of base jumping, I remember reading about the USSR recorder, midshipman Bragin jumped from 42 meters! Good luck. The equipment was still that.
It is necessary to take into account the additional weight of all iron, which is about 40 kg per unit soldier.
The article did not surprise, but rather upset.
Now less than 10 km altitude is irrelevant, in our time it is time to use the civilian side for delivery. And they have a 10km horizon.

[sharp-lad]

Quote: Starover_Z

And if you also plant our formidable construction battalion, which "- even weapons are not given out" ?!

No need to land! Just give a map, a compass, indicate a point on the map and drop that the commanders will appear there a few days later!

[Ze Kot]

Quote: PANEL VDVshny

Quote: Andrey77

but combat use ... Desantura tell

Massive landing from high altitudes is pointless - a jump with a long delay in opening the parachute is much more complicated than usual, there is a wide spread, more time to collect, etc.
But the most important thing is that people who are already consciously behaving in the air from the beginning to the end can be allowed to master this method, while the first-time student is only 28 hours of training before the first jump The preparation is indeed very difficult.
So - this is the lot of special forces and intelligence. Such jumps became available with the adoption of the new Arbalet parachute system and specially designed oxygen equipment.
Throwing an RDG, or several RDGs, is possible even from its own territory. A flying wing parachute (or "mattress" ) has the possibility of significant horizontal planning. With 7-8 thousand, you can fly in this way for many tens of kilometers to the rear of the enemy. "Crossbow" allows you to do this with a significant load. Receivers such as GiPs and GLONASS will ensure the accuracy of the parachutists' exit to the collection point, + "Crossbow" is perfectly controllable. What's more ... this is a completely military model, not a sports parachute adapted for military use.
The Israelis have experience in the combat use of such RDGs and methods of delivery, and for a long time. As far as I remember, the RDG flew 30 km to the rear to the Arabs, well, it fulfilled its task, it nudged a lot in the "soft underbelly".

Planning with a parachute from such a height is complete stupidity. This immediately put the whole group under fire from anti-aircraft artillery and small arms.

Here, more likely, special suits will work, like a "bat".

[Wolka]

zer gut, zer gut ...