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"Russian Helicopters" began flight tests of the Mi-171A2

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The first prototype of the expected new domestic helicopter Mi-171А2 began passing flight tests, passes RIA News with reference to the press service of Russian Helicopters.

"Russian Helicopters" began flight tests of the Mi-171A2


"Holding" Helicopters of Russia "has started flight tests of the first prototype of a multipurpose helicopter Mi-171A2. During the first flight, the operation of its main systems was checked. A complete list of design changes, including a new main and tail rotors, as well as increased vertical plane and the horizontal tail, will be introduced on the second prototype of the Mi-171A2 "- said in a press release.

The main systems of the helicopter "demonstrated excellent performance." It is noted that "The first prototype of the Mi-171А2 is designed to assess the performance and safety of flights with a complex of onboard equipment." Earlier, the car passed the ground racing mode, which ended with the rise of the helicopter in October of the current year and the “hovering test cycle”. The engine and carrier system were tested on the Mi-171LL Flying Lab.

“According to the results of the first test cycle of the flying laboratory, an increase in cruising and maximum flight speeds by 20%, an increase in the thrust of the rotor (by more than 800 kg), a decrease in the vibration level with the standard vibration damper were recorded. Confirmation of the maximum declared speed of the helicopter in 280 km / h has been received, ”the message indicates.

According to the press service, “the second prototype of the Mi-171А2 will be equipped with an additional set of optional equipment: an external suspension with a payload of up to 5 tons with a weight measurement system, an air conditioning system, energy-absorbing passenger seats on 24 people, dust-proof devices with a high degree of air purification up to 97% ". The second sample is assembled at the Moscow Helicopter Plant. Mile

Help RIA "News": “Russian Helicopters OJSC (part of Rostec State Corporation) is one of the world leaders in the helicopter industry, the only developer and manufacturer of helicopters in Russia. The buyers of the holding’s products are the Ministry of Defense of Russia, the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia, Gazprom Avia Airlines and UTair, large Russian and foreign companies. In 2013, the revenue of Russian Helicopters under IFRS increased by 10% and reached 138,3 billion rubles, the volume of deliveries amounted to 275 helicopters. ”
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  1. Giant thought
    Giant thought 25 November 2014 18: 33
    +12
    It is good that now the upgrades are pretty fast, i.e. we improve what we have without stopping at what has been achieved.
    1. Juborg
      Juborg 25 November 2014 18: 56
      +19
      All this is excellent and good, but the question is, we have one hospital in the city and by the end of the year there will be a reduction in medical staff, 150 people from the bush, how will we survive!?. The hospital worked in the difficult 90s, today there is no money and is unprofitable. It is a shame to say to the optometrist in Tula, to give birth in Tula, with a fracture they are sent either to Tula or to the neighboring region closer to Tula.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 25 November 2014 19: 17
        +3
        Man, like all other creatures, is a self-healing system. World medicine is going the fundamentally wrong way. In addition to traumatology and rehabilitation, we do not need medicine. With all the consequences.
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 25 November 2014 19: 17
        -1
        Man, like all other creatures, is a self-healing system. World medicine is going the fundamentally wrong way. In addition to traumatology and rehabilitation, we do not need medicine. With all the consequences.
      3. zennon
        zennon 25 November 2014 19: 18
        +5
        Quote: juborg
        All this is excellent and good, but the question is, we have one hospital in the city and by the end of the year there will be a reduction in medical staff, 150 people from the bush, how will we survive !?

        I re-read four times, but still did not understand what relation this message has to the flight tests of Mi-171A2. Please enlighten, do not let go crazy ...
        1. Juborg
          Juborg 25 November 2014 19: 45
          +1
          Quote: zennon
          Quote: juborg
          All this is excellent and good, but the question is, we have one hospital in the city and by the end of the year there will be a reduction in medical staff, 150 people from the bush, how will we survive !?

          I re-read four times, but still did not understand what relation this message has to the flight tests of Mi-171A2. Please enlighten, do not let go crazy ...

          We are testing new equipment, weapons, and so on, but the population, the people, so to speak, the servants who dared to live in the territory and are part of the state, dare somehow claim a decent medical service and want to live and not survive. The money for testing the new "Verlol" was found, but there is no money for the salaries of medical workers, and this is throughout Russia. When you dear zennonencounter this, you will not ask, but scream.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 25 November 2014 19: 52
            -6
            Once again, in other words. Doctors live 15-20 years less than others and are specialists in DISEASES, not health, and all "mighty" medicine has never restored health to anyone, and the disabled reproduce with enviable constancy. Moreover, medicine and health are in no way connected at all. Basically. Medicine is directly related to disease.
            1. Juborg
              Juborg 25 November 2014 20: 35
              +3
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Once again, in other words. Doctors live 15-20 years less than others and are specialists in DISEASES, not health, and all "mighty" medicine has never restored health to anyone, and the disabled reproduce with enviable constancy. Moreover, medicine and health are in no way connected at all. Basically. Medicine is directly related to disease.

              The words of the ignoramus, you’ll excuse my rudeness, but you obviously didn’t listen to the course in school at all. 2X2 is probably your limit, then you definitely do not need a new Mi-171A2. Good luck and pluck your teeth with pliers.
          2. vovan089
            vovan089 25 November 2014 19: 57
            -1
            It is very true and topical. There is money for helicopters, mistrals and other weapons and military equipment, and there is money for doctors and teachers. And in Moscow there was a "surplus" of doctors. The number of hospitals, polyclinics, maternity hospitals and other medical institutions has been cut by almost half. The goal is one - a healthy person does not need it, and a patient is unlikely to get there, his health condition will not allow. Doctors are actually thrown into the street. Khrenov the mayor promises lump sum payments from 200 to 500 thousand wood to the dismissed, so as not to starve to death. This is the name of taking care of the nation's health. Glory to Vova and Mitya !!!
            1. volgro
              volgro 25 November 2014 21: 51
              -1
              It is good that we are developing helicopters, but health care and education are destroying completely. As one politician said. "School teachers win the war" (After them, children go to serve in the army). It is also good that doctors are paid money in Moscow, it is a pity that only in Moscow.
          3. Irokez
            Irokez 25 November 2014 20: 02
            +4
            We are testing new equipment, weapons and so on, but the population, the people, so to speak, that servants who dared to live on the territory and are an integral part of the state, dare to somehow claim decent medical care and want to live, not survive.

            You want to say what is needed for Russian Helicopters to give you money for the development and support of medical staff?
            Russian helicopters pay taxes and are not required to help you, but about the first-aid posts, they are not at the address here.
            How many people-so many dissatisfied, but Putin is always to blame for everything (overlooked).
          4. zennon
            zennon 25 November 2014 20: 41
            +2
            Quote: juborg
            ... The money for testing the new "Verlol" was found, but there is no money for the salaries of medical workers, and this is all over Russia. When you, dear zennon, come across this, you will no longer ask, but shout.

            Just listened to Sobyanin on T.V. So he says that the Moscow government will pay all doctors who fell under the reduction of the amount of 200 rubles or more. And this is in addition to what is supposed to be in this case. When do you recommend me to scream, now or when will they get these grandmas? operated on-cataract. All analyzes, surgery, maintenance in the clinic-free. Tell me what and when to scream, please! Now, if you can, anything about the Mi-000A171 please.
          5. andr327
            andr327 25 November 2014 21: 24
            +3
            Dear Juborg, I understand your anxiety. But! To give you money, you need to earn it, i.e. create surplus value. You, with all your desire, do not create it, but those engineers and workers who will make this helicopter will do it. Remember the old concepts of political economy: the basis and the superstructure.
            Let's get to the point of absurdity: All state money for medicine! Yes, for a year, two is enough and then?
            1. Juborg
              Juborg 25 November 2014 21: 36
              +5
              Quote: andr327
              Dear Juborg, I understand your anxiety. But! To give you money, you need to earn it, i.e. create surplus value. You, with all your desire, do not create it, but those engineers and workers who will make this helicopter will do it. Remember the old concepts of political economy: the basis and the superstructure.
              Let's get to the point of absurdity: All state money for medicine! Yes, for a year, two is enough and then?

              MEDICINE, IT IS NOT A BUSINESS Dear andr327. But the fact that small cities are left without medical help, I am already silent about villages and towns, this is a fact. Medicine is primarily intended to prevent and prevent, and only then to correct and treat. And the fact that we are still treating diseases, and not humans, is precisely the result of begging of an already impoverished medicine. And the economy has nothing to do with it, especially when our relatives are in trouble, and there is no one to help, because people like you thought it would be economically unprofitable to support someone who could help this. Think or Count!
              1. andr327
                andr327 25 November 2014 23: 27
                +2
                YUBORG! WHERE TO GET MONEY? Alas, WITHOUT AN ECONOMY ANYWHERE! Although I feel the begging of medicine on myself. A polyclinic for the civilian population was closed in our town, and the local division puts YaRS on the DB! And who said it would be easy! Good intentions laid the road to hell!
              2. Egen
                Egen 26 November 2014 07: 51
                0
                Quote: juborg
                MEDICINE IS NOT A BUSINESS

                Guys, I understand your thoughts, etc. Soviet times about the social sphere, where everything was "for the good of man" - and not only in slogans, but if you look - think a lot and in fact, and I myself am from those times, but, guys, open your eyes, us medicine is just a business. How can you not see this ?! Starting from the requirements of transferring to self-sufficiency, all kinds of insurance, etc. and ending with the focus of the younger generation of doctors to make money, not treat.
                Everybody goes abroad, but I previously gave several examples about medicine in the States, there it is in a different way, there "earn" and "treat" on the scales are approximately balanced. And we have a bias. And there is no way out. Probably, we, the country, society, people, just need to go through this period, and then we will "mature", but when it will be, and whether it will be, because Russia, as always, has its own path ... Well, let's hope that we will live
        2. Egen
          Egen 26 November 2014 08: 15
          0
          Quote: zennon
          I re-read four times, but still did not understand what relation this message has to the flight tests of Mi-171A2. Please enlighten, do not let go crazy ...

          Including and that earlier there was sanitation in the region, urgent patients were brought from mines or remote taiga villages ... - including, in fact, our regional hospital still has a helipad. Only here there are only 2 helicopters left in the region - a militia one and one large holding - that’s the whole detachment at the airport. The cost of the flight 1 hours - 150 tyr. To some mine or village in the south, fly in 1 side with an hour. So much for the present value of human life from here :(
      4. sergkar
        sergkar 25 November 2014 19: 31
        -1
        It is a shame to say to the optometrist in Tula, to give birth in Tula, with a fracture they are sent either to Tula or to the neighboring region closer to Tula.


        Immediately, Shoigu suggested increasing the mobility of guberns. Here take an example! Explore emergency obstetric care and any other emergency care! The salvation of drowning, the work of the drowning themselves1 am
        1. sergkar
          sergkar 25 November 2014 20: 56
          +1
          What is this minus? At least blather, designate a position! I understand - quietly, safer and not annoying!
        2. sergkar
          sergkar 26 November 2014 00: 21
          0
          Yes! Apparently it became very bad at VO with a sense of humor! Minusmen attack and shake quietly. Cowardly spawn!
      5. dr.Bo
        dr.Bo 25 November 2014 19: 58
        +2
        Mi-171A2 - blah, blah, blah. Long! Name, simply: - "Bear"
        im.kh.o. hi
        1. sativan
          sativan 25 November 2014 20: 59
          0
          Great offer. Very relevant, I would like to hear you.
      6. Yura
        Yura 25 November 2014 20: 14
        -2
        Do you want to buy a helicopter so that it would be easier to get more convenient, well, since there was an article on helicopters, or did I miss something and did not understand?
      7. Civil
        Civil 25 November 2014 20: 32
        +2
        Quote: juborg
        All this is excellent and good, but the question is, we have one hospital in the city and by the end of the year there will be a reduction in medical staff, 150 people from the bush, how will we survive!?. The hospital worked in the difficult 90s, today there is no money and is unprofitable. It is a shame to say to the optometrist in Tula, to give birth in Tula, with a fracture they are sent either to Tula or to the neighboring region closer to Tula.

        All country soldiers! We have a war here! A soldier must endure all the hardships of the service! Who doesn’t agree ?! Refuse by name!
        1. sergkar
          sergkar 26 November 2014 00: 27
          -1
          How too radical! That's when martial law will officially be, tady yes! In the meantime, we are in "civilian"! Sorry, but you minus.
      8. datur
        datur 25 November 2014 22: 39
        0
        where is it so? Is it just me from TULA? belay
    2. sergkar
      sergkar 25 November 2014 19: 27
      +3
      Apparently now "loot sawing" for a long time, it has become unsafe. So we decided to try "byrom", suddenly it will slip through! And the developments, apparently, have been for a long time, they just held on - "for the future." To maintain the pants and, again, what would have been what to cut. hi
    3. Egen
      Egen 26 November 2014 07: 36
      0
      Quote: Thought Giant
      It is good that now the upgrades are pretty fast, i.e. we improve what we have without stopping at what has been achieved.

      It is also significant that our ancestors created a machine that, after 50 years later, is still operational.
  2. sem-yak
    sem-yak 25 November 2014 18: 35
    +2
    new is good!
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 25 November 2014 19: 50
      0
      Not so new. This is another modification of the G8. And the Eight is a hundred years old at lunch. Plus, the outdated classic design is not enthusiastic. Ka-32, located in the same weight as the Mi-XNUMX, is also not young, but at least coaxial.
  3. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 25 November 2014 18: 35
    +4
    Excellent ... Russia, with its vastness and complex terrain, needs helicopters for various purposes ... good luck
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 25 November 2014 19: 24
      +1
      Good helicopters are needed everywhere, both in Russia and in other countries where we deliver them.
  4. Strezhevsky
    Strezhevsky 25 November 2014 18: 35
    +2
    A good device, I wonder how soundproofed inside?
  5. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 25 November 2014 18: 36
    +4
    Pleased with such news!
  6. pvv113
    pvv113 25 November 2014 18: 36
    +3
    dustproof devices with a high degree of air purification up to 97%

    I wonder what kind of design. It is not in the photo, probably it was not installed for the period of checking the characteristics of the engines
  7. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 25 November 2014 18: 39
    +4
    Well, you couldn’t post a photo))
    Normal "AMTESHKA" from the top KO-50, salon.
    True "duck nose", well, it's like a show-off wassat
  8. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 25 November 2014 18: 42
    +14
    Last year, the Air Force received 77 aircraft and 112 helicopters:
    not less than 14 Mi-28Н,

    not less than 17 Ka-52,

    not less than 8 Mi-35,

    4 Mi-26

    53 Mi-8AMTSH. For a year, the plant in Ulan-Ude exceeded the plan for the 2013 year and handed over to the 53 troops Mi-8AMTS.

    more 10 Mi-8MTV5

    at least 6 "Ansat-U"

    http://www.vmir.su/65905-samolety-i-vertolety-chto-postavleno-v-vvs-rossii-v-201
    3-godu-23-foto-tekst.html
    1. Alcoholic
      Alcoholic 25 November 2014 19: 05
      -3
      Well, raise the flag and make a drum roll.
      By giving links you can at least get acquainted with the material.
      For himself.
      I read it, maybe it would be interesting ...
      "Would", yes "It was".
      This is how you have to answer the next one " wassat hats thrower "
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 25 November 2014 19: 38
        +6
        Quote: Alcoholic
        Well, raise the flag and make a drum roll.

        And as far as I understand, we have a fan of Navalny here: "They cut it all, putinvsekhslil"
        Quote: Alcoholic
        By giving links you can at least get acquainted with the material.

        If this is not a link, please:
        In the 2013 year, the fleet of the Russian Air Force was replenished with more than 100 new helicopters, including 14 Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopters, Lieutenant General Viktor Bondarev told the Air Force Commander.

        http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1298484/

        Quote: Alcoholic
        I read it, maybe it would be interesting ...
        "Would", yes "It was".

        We didn’t drink at the Brudershaft, well, since you’re like that, I’ll answer and read and find out. Argue with the numbers given by the Air Force Commander. You can argue on the topic, huh? Preferably with numbers ...
        Quote: Alcoholic
        This is how you have to answer the next "hat thrower"

        Who is in you? So your nickname is clear. I repeat for those who are in the tank, have something on the topic, write, we will argue, but no, we pass by, or forward to "Matza's Ear", there you will find grateful listeners from the liberal handshaking. So that:
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 25 November 2014 19: 55
          +2
          Not happy that they plug holes in combat helicopters not designed for this Mi-8AMTSh. I would prefer a complete re-equipment of combat helicopters on the Ka-52 with an excess in number over the maximum figure in the history of Russian helicopter engineering. In other words, to make the entire fleet of combat helicopters exclusively Ka-52. And so that there would be significantly more than even in the best days of the Soviet Union. After all, a large country needs a lot of first-class helicopters, obviously.
          1. Roman 1977
            Roman 1977 25 November 2014 20: 13
            +2
            Arseny, I myself, extremely dislike the fact that we essentially get 2 types of main combat helicopters Ka-52 and Mi-28, which so far only exists in our Air Force. In Soviet times, everything is simpler, “army aviation - Mil, Navy Kamov.” And I consider it an impermissible luxury and a waste of money to produce, as the former chief of the General Staff proposed, the Baluyevsky specialized helicopter for special forces-Ka-50 / Ka-52.
            And now we have at least 89 Mi-28Н (June of the 2014 of the year) and 63 Ka-52 (December of the 2013 of the year) and plus the Mi-35 (24 Mi-35М, as of March 2014 of the year). Order for 22 units + additional order for 27 units with delivery until the beginning of the 2015 year). And if you take into account the old Mi-24, of which according to the Military Balance for the 2013 year there are 654, it turns out generally fun ... The tank drama of the late USSR is repeated when three types of T-64, T-72 and T-80, which performed the same functions, but the details of which were not interchangeable with each other.
            The same repeatedly damned Americans use machines created on the basis of serial samples for their MTR.
            1. stranik72
              stranik72 25 November 2014 20: 56
              +1
              4 types of combat helicopters is a crime for the country's defense. It is a fact
          2. stranik72
            stranik72 25 November 2014 20: 54
            0
            KA-52 is not a helicopter of the battlefield; its main drawbacks are that no country produces such a helicopter and moreover no one will buy it from us. It is in demand for a certain type of work, skidding, installation and dismantling operations using the hover mode, and search and rescue operations by his fellow KA-32, and then it is limited. So I hope the fools are transferred to the Air Force, and there will be no more purchases. Although now it is bought only at the social rate. Design Bureau and the manufacturer want to save.
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 25 November 2014 21: 06
              +4
              Ka-52 is the only combat helicopter in the Air Force that has a firing-search radar. Moreover, even after the Mi-28НМ comes out, the radar in the ball will significantly (target like a tank at 3 km for example) lose in parameters, including in the detection range. Trite because the radar in the ball is smaller and not so powerful.

              As for the shortcomings - in addition to the high cost and complexity of the service, what? Just do not need about the whipping on the flight board of Vorobyov with disabled automatic restrictions, which after that have been finalized, by the way.
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        4. Manul
          Manul 25 November 2014 21: 48
          0
          Quote: Novel 1977
          And as far as I understand, we have a fan of Navalny here: "They cut it all, putinvsekhslil"

          hi Dear, do not react like that, your nerves are dear to us. Like many of all those who are unreasonable or mean-spirited.
  9. Bayonet
    Bayonet 25 November 2014 18: 43
    +12
    Mi-171A2 is one of the most anticipated new products of the Russian aviation industry. It was created using modern technology and taking into account many years of experience in operating Mi-8/17 series helicopters in various climatic conditions in all regions of the planet. Thanks to a number of innovative solutions, it was possible to achieve a significant improvement in flight performance and expand the functionality of the Mi-171A2. The machine received a modern powerful and economical VK-2500PS-03 engine, a modified transmission and supporting system, which allows to increase the service life of the helicopter, composite blades and a new X-shaped tail rotor. The fuselage allows you to quickly change the configuration of the helicopter cockpit in the transport or passenger version, it is possible to install additional equipment.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 25 November 2014 19: 44
      +2
      And in honor of what sobsno all the delights? That another variation on the theme of the Mi-8, which first flew in 1961, took off? And what is fundamentally new being done? Is it possible to continue to live on Soviet reserves and rejoice? Yes, the fathers and even the grandfathers of today's aircraft designers did things that are relevant even after half a century, for which they are honored and praised, and what are the current ones doing? Are they cutting coupons from old developments? And the new engine is, first of all, good because it is not a Motor Sich, but how fundamentally it is better than the one that flew in 1961? In general, the news is certainly not bad, but nothing more, and it was presented as if a breakthrough innovation had happened.
      And now what I'm waiting for some cons, but I don't care. If you continue to suck on old developments, then even the Chinese will lose interest in technical cooperation, and will switch to copying newer samples from [insert country name]. As it was said in the fairy tale about Alice, "you have to run very fast in order to stay in place."
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 25 November 2014 20: 21
        +3
        Is there a special squad for America to export the White House and all the cones to shelters already moved to Hawks or all to Huey? Which everyone can’t write off in any way - exploiting everywhere.

        And what are you planning to buy a new medium helicopter in the USA? 103 modernization of the Black Hawk and not a penny on PSV until 20. However, the Minister of Defense flew out, maybe a new lobby.
      2. 52
        52 25 November 2014 20: 36
        +2
        Wait, too, I'll catch a minus, but really: Where are the new developments, where oh, what a good Mi-38? Where, besides "rolling cotton wool of old helicopters", is there progress? I do not argue, the "eight" is an excellent car, but where is the "son" of "Vasilisa the Beautiful"? Or, beating off the loot on upgrades and reporting on the implementation of the plan, that's it? The war will not ask. Did the "super-planned" "Seagulls" and Yak-41 help us a lot in 4st? And now I'm waiting for kicks or a conscientious answer - where is the New Machine? The same UVZ admitted honestly - the tank in the classical sense has reached a dead end, but with a new approach to this issue, the development of the "tank" theme is quite possible. And the Mi-38 and the vehicles on the promising "base" - just drank the dough? Nagant, you are a plus from me, because the problem is correct, and we do not clap "sweaty palms", but we ask the question, what next? Really Mi-17-9-UTTH-AM-2500-TV-111bis?
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 25 November 2014 20: 42
          +1
          Mi-38 hopes to deal with certification before the end of 2015 of the year - 4 cars fly, they make a couple more. Useless to put them on the stream without certification? There are also jambs on the domestic engine, and it is also not certified, and this could drag on beyond 2015 of the year sad , and without it, operation is only with PriitandWhitney.
      3. stranik72
        stranik72 25 November 2014 21: 06
        +3
        "And the new engine is, first of all, good because it is not a Motor Sich, but how fundamentally it is better than the one that flew in 1961?"
        In 1961, the engine was TV2-117, Perm factory of the manufacturer, from 1978 to present, TV3-117MT, VM Zaporizhzhya production, since 2000, put a little VK-2500, a joint project of Klimov and Zaporozhye, VK-2500PS-03 is deep modernization of the well-known engine, there almost only the appearance is the same, as well as the material and manufacturing technology and the control system is all new and according to its characteristics it is 30% better than its analogue. There are really a lot of new products introduced by helicopter, starting from the floor and systems, so you should not look at the Super Puma there too, they went along the same path and did not lose.
  10. 31rus
    31rus 25 November 2014 18: 44
    0
    Here is an example and they upgrade and earn money, and not fill their pockets
  11. Andrey77
    Andrey77 25 November 2014 18: 46
    +3
    How long will the Mi-8 last? Here is another clone ...
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 25 November 2014 20: 05
      +2
      Quote: Andrey77
      How long will the Mi-8 last? Here is another clone ...

      In fact, the Mi-8 is the simplest, most reliable and massive helicopter in the world.
      Why invent something new if there is a beautiful present.
      In general, only the layout remained in the MI-171A2 from MI-8, but in fact it is a completely new machine, which retained its previous reliability and acquired new qualities.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 26 November 2014 14: 44
        0
        In fact, the Mi-8 is the simplest, most reliable and massive helicopter in the world.
        -
        Yes, I know all this. Is it really impossible even easier and more reliable? Although far too much ...
        -
        but in fact it is a completely new machine that has retained its former reliability and acquired new qualities.
        -
        Those. lost simplicity. Saved only reliability?
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  12. air wolf
    air wolf 25 November 2014 18: 49
    +10
    Piloted in the 90s the Kazan Mi-8T of 1968 and Ulan-Ude of the seventies, excellent helicopters, Uhlans were better. You come in one jamb when shifting the screw to brake the vibration beyond the limits. I hope this is fixed on modern helicopters. The Ka-27, which piloted two years later on landing, does not vibrate, not a helicopter, but a fairy tale and the Mi-8 smokes compared to it, the Kamovskys have one cant, but this is a secretlaughing
    In general, I would recommend the Ka-29M theme to our generals, since there is no more efficient and maneuverable transport-combat helicopter!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 25 November 2014 19: 50
      +1
      Quote: air wolf
      there is one cant at Kamovsky, but it's a secret
      What a jamb? That they are too few, and therefore they do not do weather? Oh, I think I revealed a secret ...
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 25 November 2014 20: 05
        0
        I am also a supporter of the Ka-29. But since the hope of their revival is already very small, we have to be content with the Ka-52.
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      3. air wolf
        air wolf 26 November 2014 10: 27
        +1
        There are not enough of them, but they are not used, because sophisticated equipment, and few specialists. I had a case - AO-REO's complete failure was good at landing, but there were really difficult weather conditions, I saw the land from a height of 5-7 meters. They searched for the cause with all their might, all the wires were mussed over, but the reason was commonplace, the technician did not rub the shrap with alcohol, but wiped it with a fume and formed a current path and the spark went into a crutch))) They began to wash the shraps with alcohol!
    2. stranik72
      stranik72 25 November 2014 21: 11
      +2
      Dear judging by your comment, about piloting the Mi-8 and KA-27, you were somewhere nearby, at best with a screwdriver, and heard conversations of flying people, and everything else was a fantasy.
  13. wizarden
    wizarden 25 November 2014 19: 10
    +5
    Photos in the subject. The whole nose is studded with optics.
    1. Mol
      Mol 25 November 2014 20: 32
      0
      Quote: wizarden
      The whole nose is studded with optics.

      There are doubts about the fact that on the base, serial Mi-171A2 models, the entire nose will also be studded with optics. Maybe she will go as extra. options, for a fee. what
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 26 November 2014 14: 59
        0
        There are doubts about the fact that on the base, serial Mi-171A2 models, the entire nose will also be studded with optics.
        --
        Will be. Chinese optics are cheap. For surveillance cameras, Carl Zeiss is stupid to install.
  14. uge.garik
    uge.garik 25 November 2014 20: 05
    0
    Dual-use helicopter drones ... and more ...
  15. donavi49
    donavi49 25 November 2014 20: 26
    +2
    A new one is being built too, 3 pieces have already set records. However, the Mi-8 is still in huge demand. Especially after the upgrade.

    A month ago, 4 flight went to the test. The program takes its course, though again the motor issue is acute sad
    1. stranik72
      stranik72 25 November 2014 21: 13
      +2
      Rather "gear" than motor.
      1. VAF
        VAF 25 November 2014 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: stranik72
        Rather "gear" than motor.


        Hi Zhenya! if it's not a secret, clarify .. "gear problem" where .... in the main, "gap" or in the tail drinks (otherwise you'll get me ... that the same thing stood next to the screwdriver wink ).
        And listen .. I read the "price" for the 38th .. I don’t understand .. the TV3-117V engines are written ... so on 24 there were such were still hell knows when ... or is it already some other series or even new ones? request
        And if not, why not VM or VMA ???
        General question drinks
    2. bmv04636
      bmv04636 26 November 2014 09: 21
      0
      It seems like for Russia Klimovsky for Italian abroad, or something
  16. NKVD
    NKVD 25 November 2014 20: 56
    +1
    Here at the beginning of the post they wrote about medicine. Guys, when the big Oppa arrives, then medicine will be powerless. It is better to give an guarantee to the enemy that he will be destroyed if trampling on us than to guarantee that we’ll shut up all our soldiers
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 26 November 2014 14: 50
      0
      Nobody will darn all fighters. In military medicine, too, their troubles. There is a dropout. And perhaps the captured US major will go ahead with the operation than our major. Everything is not so simple there. I am silent about the rank and file - there the prisoner is always the first to go.
  17. andr327
    andr327 25 November 2014 21: 46
    +1
    I’m not a helicopter pilot, a simple engineer, and I probably don’t know of any new super new helicopter layouts with nanoperdykah power plants, a rear rotor, a spring chassis on triangular wheels and a directional cockpit? fool
  18. Drunya
    Drunya 25 November 2014 22: 06
    0
    http://www.tsenki.com/launch_services/help_information/launch/2014/?EID=116402
    The launch of the Astra 2G spacecraft from the Baikonur Cosmodrome is scheduled for November 28, 2014.
    To launch the satellite into orbit, it is proposed to use the Proton-M launch vehicle (LV) with the Breeze-M booster block.
    The launch contract using the Proton-M launch vehicle was signed by satellite operator SES (Luxembourg) and International Launch Services Inc. (ILS)
    Launch Customers
    Federal Space Agency
    The Federal Space Agency is determined by the state customer for space technology for scientific and socio-economic purposes, as well as a co-customer (jointly with the Russian Ministry of Defense) on dual-use rocket and space technology.
  19. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 25 November 2014 22: 53
    0
    Quote: Novel 1977
    Navy "Kamov"


    No Russian Navy! There is a navy in Russia!


    "171" -e, it seems to have been an export modification. That is, they updated it?
    1. VAF
      VAF 25 November 2014 23: 12
      +3
      Quote: The Cat
      No Russian Navy! There is a navy in Russia!


      You don’t have it .. and you have it, as in Greece .. there is everything, including the "Russian Navy" wassat

  20. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 26 November 2014 14: 32
    0
    Quote: vaf
    Quote: The Cat
    No Russian Navy! There is a navy in Russia!


    You don’t have it .. and you have it, as in Greece .. there is everything, including the "Russian Navy" wassat




    So it's the enemy disguised! In the Russian Navy!