Battle of Tripoli

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The war in Libya again caught the attention of the entire world community. Conflicting information came from Tripoli, according to some Tripoli fell and the residence of Gaddafi was taken, according to others the assault on the capital of Libya failed. But some conclusions from the heap of incoming information can be done.

It all started with the fact that on Friday separatist units from the western direction came close to the capital of Libya. At the same time, units of Berbers and foreign mercenaries blocked the highway to Tunisia and began to control areas north-west of the capital. Opponents of the regime and criminals who fled from the local prison (more than a thousand people) joined the ranks of the separatists. This apparently explains the reports of violence against civilians, looting. Just west of Tripoli, the separatists had up to 4 thousand people.

On the night of August 21, the first attempt to enter Tripoli took place, with the support of Islamist militants who played the role of the “fifth column” in the city. The Western media, due to their “double standards”, immediately rated these events as “uprising of the population” against the dictator. This attempt failed, on Sunday morning, Safe al-Islam (the son of Gaddafi) made a televised address in which he reported that the rebels had lost the battle for Tripoli and government forces had thwarted an attempt to seize the airport of Mitig on the eastern outskirts of the city.

The Libyan government media announced at the same time the audio message of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi to his people: “I congratulate you on having repulsed the attacks of these rats, who are trying to destroy the Libyan people. It's time to organize a millionth campaign to free the destroyed cities and put an end to the rebels forever, ”said the leader of the Jamahiriya.

As military experts noted, government forces at this time found themselves in a difficult situation: the air strikes of NATO forces, which had recently intensified, worsened the supply. There was a shortage of ammunition, medicines, fuel, and the advantage in firepower was lost. The separatist detachments, which had been trained by Western military experts for several months, were no longer so senseless. But the situation was also complicated for the West: more and more often there were offers to go for a separate peace, to stop the war.

Aviation NATO continued to systematically launch bombing raids on positions loyal to Gaddafi's units and their supply bases. NATO planes make up to 100 sorties per day, of which approximately 30-60 are combat missions. The British Air Force uses Tornado and Typhoon airplanes, the French Air Force uses Rafal and Mirage 2000, and Italian, Belgian, Danish F-16, Spanish EF-18, and Canadian CF-18 operate in the sky over Libya. The Western Coalition is actively using English and French helicopters, which are deployed on landing helicopter carriers. In addition, the command of NATO has American combat UAVs. At the end of last week appeared newsthat the Pentagon sent two additional Predator UAVs to the Libyan front; they also work on ground targets.



Under the conditions of complete air supremacy of the NATO air force, which launched air strikes on the city, after regrouping on Sunday, the separatists again tried to take the city. The blow was struck from three sides - separatists were advancing from the west and south, from the north, in the port, a landing operation was carried out. According to a number of military analysts, in fact, the United States and NATO conducted an undeclared ground operation. The separatist actions were coordinated by foreign military experts - not only from NATO countries, but from the countries of the Arab world hostile to the Gaddafi regime. Several, up to a dozen sabotage groups of the enemy, apparently from among the fighters of private military companies who settled in Tripoli under the guise of Western journalists and businessmen, leaked into the city in advance. But on the move, the capital did not come out, fierce street battles began, during which both sides had lost, according to various sources, from one and a half to two thousand people killed and about five thousand people wounded. There are reports that the fighters took part in the battles of special forces of NATO countries - France, England, USA.

According to the London newspaper The Daily Telegraph, British intelligence officers MI-6 took a direct part in planning the operation of the Libyan rebels to storm Tripoli. In particular, the newspaper reported the following: “The officers of the MI-6, who are based on the Libyan opposition in Benghazi, worked out a plan of attack with members of the Libyan National Council. The plan was agreed to by 10 weeks ago. ” Immediately before the start of this operation, the British Air Force launched a series of attacks on the positions of the forces loyal to Gaddafi in Tripoli.

At the same time, Western media brought a wave of misinformation onto the world, so on Monday it was claimed that the separatists controlled up to 80% of the city. Most of the government forces surrendered, only a few continue to resist at the residence of Gaddafi, and in the suburb of Bab al-Aziz. According to the official representative of the Libyan authorities, Musa Ibrahim: “Hospitals are overcrowded, there are not enough medicines”. But there are still thousands of fighters ready to fight. Then came the information that allegedly arrested three sons of M. Gaddafi - Seif al-Islam (they promised to transfer him to The Hague), Muhammad and Saadi. There was information about the death of Khamis, the commander of the elite brigade, which was also not confirmed

Not confirmed reports of separatist victories on other fronts. How the situation has changed in the area of ​​Misrata, Zlitana, El-Bregi, is unknown. But there is information that government troops are not broken and continue to resist, and they are still supported by the militias of the tribes. Islamist militants and mercenaries from Arab and European countries oppose them.

Separatist detachments are still trying to seize El-Bregu, one of the most important ports in Libya (the country's second-largest oil refinery is located there). False information is also associated with Bregay - the rebels took the city from it, but then it turned out that the forces loyal to Gaddafi continue to resist. There were battles for the Evil, which is located in 150 km east of Tripoli. There is information that Europeans were also noted there - at the end of last week in the area of ​​Misurata they landed ashore before 300 well-armed fighters - these were either mercenaries from private military companies, or special forces of one of the unnamed states. After disembarking, this detachment moved towards the Evil and participated in the battles.

Disinformation Campaign

The assault on Tripoli was accompanied by an unprecedented campaign of disinformation of the world's population. The network has been posted footage of the killed leaders of Libya: the Colonel himself, his closest relatives and comrades, including General Abdullah Al-Senussi and Aisha al-Gaddafi. However, it soon became clear that all this is a hoax and a gross fake with the help of computer technology. For example, the image of the "dead" Gaddafi was created on the basis of the picture of the deceased secretary Bin Laden, and Aisha's "body" was constructed on the basis of a photograph of Benazir Bhutto who was killed after the terrorist act.

By the evening of August 22, it became clear that the separatist rebels and Western disinformers did not get something out. The city is not yet taken, the resistance is not suppressed. Mohammed escaped altogether. Then Seif appeared on the screens and angrily branded NATO, calling on the Libyan people to destroy the "rat" traitors. Then Khamis showed up.



An interesting situation emerged with the "jubilant people", after supposedly "taking" Tripoli. It turned out that this is a fake. The authorities of Qatar made a copy of Tripoli before these events, it was believed that for training those who would storm Tripoli. Apparently, the goal was different, there they filmed scenes of “taking” and “national triumph”. The “sensational” reports about the flight of Gaddafi to another country, for example, to Venezuela, also turned out to be completely false.

By the morning of 23, there was evidence that the assault was completely failed. According to the first vice-president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, Doctor of Military Sciences, Captain 1, rank Konstantin SivkovThe West has started a landing operation. She was assigned a decisive role in the storming of the city: “From the other sides, Tripoli was not to be taken, otherwise the rebels would have done so long ago. We decided from the sea. However, since the so-called rebels, by virtue of their weak preparation, would never have been able to independently participate in such a complex form of hostilities, obviously, the Americans landed. ” There was no one else to take Tripoli from the sea, and besides, the United States created a group of marines off the coast of Libya. Two amphibious assault ships of the United States reached the shores of Libya in June. Approximately 200 of the US Marine Corps fighters landed ashore on Sunday: "They were the main striking force of the failed assault."

From here it is possible to understand why in the battles for Tripoli such high losses - the rebels, losing dozens of other people immediately fled, and then there were hundreds of people.



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Latest events:

Gaddafi supporters began to arrive in Tripoli

A large number of supporters of Muammar Gaddafi arrives at these moments in Tripoli in order to give armed resistance to opposition forces. This was announced on Wednesday by the official representative of the Libyan authorities Ibrahim Musa by telephone on the air of a radio station broadcasting in Tripoli.

According to him, up to 6,5, thousands of people who are ready to support the current regime “have entered the city in the last six hours and flooded the streets of Tripoli.” In total, according to Ibrahim, 12 thousand fighters from the faithful Gaddafi tribes are ready to enter the Libyan capital and take control of the situation.

“I think that within two to three days we will return control of Tripoli,” said the representative of the Libyan authorities. He promised to make a "death trap for the rebels" out of the capital. “The city will turn into a bomb ready to explode,” said Musa. He called the opposition "gangsters" engaged in murder and robbery, and even "attacked the Algerian embassy."

According to him, the troops of Colonel Gaddafi are actively resisting the rebels and continue to control the main urban facilities, including the Central Bank building.

“The whole center of the city is in our hands,” Ibrahim pointed out, acknowledging, nevertheless, that Gaddafi’s troops were forced to retreat from a number of areas of Tripoli under the blows of NATO Apache helicopters.

He also noted that supporters of the Libyan leader had managed to “arrest a group of four Qat citizens and one - the United Arab Emirates that supported the rebels”.

“We also detained 20 militants in the west of Tripoli. They were resisted by volunteer groups of youth, - he pointed out. “The clash occurred in the Ain az-Zarr area, we were able to completely eliminate two rebel groups,” ITAR-TASS reports.

According to the newspaper VIEW, head created by the rebels of the National Transitional Council of Libya Mustafa Abdel Jalil said on Wednesday that the three-day battle for the Libyan capital Tripoli led to the deaths of more than 400 people, the number of wounded is 2 thousand.

Dozens of “Grad” rockets were released on Wednesday in the capital of the country, Tripoli, most of which was previously captured by the rebels.

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi gave a radio address to the nation and said that the surrender of the rebels the government residence in the metropolitan quarter of Bab al-Azizia was a "tactical maneuver".

The National Transitional Council of Libya said on Tuesday that it would relocate its headquarters to the capital, Tripoli, from the city of Benghazi within two days.

On Wednesday night, Moscow time, there were reports of clashes between the loyal troops of Muammar Gaddafi and the rebels in Sebh, located in 700 km from Tripoli.

The intruders Tuesday in Muammar Gaddafi's residence in the metropolitan quarter of Bab el-Azizia rebels smashed the statue placed there the Libyan leader, stole his personal belongings, as well as weapon.

Gaddafi’s troops launched an offensive against the city of Adzhelat, west of the capital Tripoli, Al-Arabiya TV reported on Wednesday.

The British television channel Sky News on Tuesday evening showed footage from Tripoli, in which the rebels hoisted the flag over the residence of the country's leader Muammar Gaddafi.

On news Western news of the capture of the rebels residence of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi in Tripoli on Tuesday, the London press revealed the secrets of the direct involvement of the British special forces in the preparation of the assault the capital of Libya. For example, London openly admits that it supplied the rebels with ammunition.

Meanwhile, on Tuesday, as it was reported that members of the Libyan army, loyal to leader Muammar Gaddafi's Jamahiriya, leave Tripoli and sent in his hometown of Sirte.

In turn, we note that the Libyan rebels use the old royal flag of Libya as a symbol of the revolution. As 18 August declared the Crown Prince of Libya, Muhammad Al-Senussi, "the revolutionaries decided to raise this flag as a symbol of liberation, independence and freedom." Regarding the prospects of restoring the monarchy in the country, he stressed that the main thing for the people of Libya - is to force Muammar Gaddafi to leave, and then it's time to decide whether or not to restore the monarchy in the country, or choose another form of government.

Meanwhile, Germany is going to support the Libyan opposition and in the coming days will provide the National Transitional Council with a loan of 100 million euros. This was announced on Tuesday by the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany, Guido Westerwelle.

Muammar Gaddafi addressed the Libyans

On the night of August 24, the city radio Tripoli sounded the appeal of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. He said that the retreat from the Bab al-Aziziyah complex was a "tactical move" in order to lure the rebels into a trap and prevent new attacks by the NATO Air Force.

Muammar Gaddafi said he was ready to become a “shahid” for the sake of victory, but he would not leave Tripoli.

The text of this speech was also broadcast by the local television channel Al-Uruba, still controlled by supporters of Gaddafi.

TV edition "Al-Uruba" explained that Gaddafi's speech came from the record adviser of the Libyan leader, Musa Ibrahim, who was able to contact his boss on his mobile phone. However, the “live” voice of Gaddafi did not sound on television. The whereabouts of Muammar Gaddafi remains unknown.

Musa Ibrahim told Al-Urub that resistance continues to Libyan 6.000 volunteers to support the forces of Gaddafi. He also said that Libya could turn into a "erupting volcano under the feet of the invaders." According to Ibrahim, the war will continue for months or even years, and not “a few days or hours,” as the “rebels” believe in vain.

Rebel leaders say they control virtually the entire capital of Libya, and state that by the end of this week, resistance will be crushed and Gaddafi’s regime will finally fall.

British television station BBC gave a speech Abdul Hakim Belhadzh, commander of the rebel forces in Tripoli. He said after the capture of the Bab al-Aziziyah complex: "We won the battle. They ran like rats." At the same time, Belhadj admitted that neither Colonel Gaddafi nor his entourage could be detected and captured.

Western media noted, under the control of Gaddafi's troops are metropolitan areas of Abu Salim and al-Hadba - including the quarter in which the hotel is located Rixos, where foreign journalists are.

Some experts on the Middle East believe that the fall of the Gaddafi regime will lead to chaos and will not end the civil war in Libya, but will only mean a new stage in this war. Meanwhile, many Islamist groups have already welcomed the overthrow of Gaddafi. In particular, the leaders of the Libyan opposition 22 August evening received congratulations from the leadership of the Palestinian terrorist organization Hamas. On August 23, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad congratulated the Libyan people on "victory."
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    1. Vadim
      +4
      24 August 2011 08: 36
      So the struggle for power will soon begin, and the people will die more than during the whole war. Italy, wait for the refugees.
    2. +1
      24 August 2011 09: 30
      Yes, it seems amb Gaddafi. But the war is just beginning ...
    3. Garfield
      +1
      24 August 2011 09: 40
      Here's an interesting revelation of NATO's information attack and the fake capture of Libya http://obozrevatel.com/blogs/pravoslavnyij-foto-mertvogo-kaddafi.-to-chto-budet-
      zavtra .... htm
      1. ballian
        -4
        24 August 2011 11: 35
        interesting nonsense on your link
    4. Captain
      +3
      24 August 2011 09: 43
      What a harsh misinformation in the media. Even Goebbels would be jealous.

      It is very annoying that our media are talking about Gaddafi, as if he had been killed for a long time, and the rebels have legal power.
    5. Crazyzy
      +8
      24 August 2011 10: 45
      The Russian media are prostitutes.
      From the very beginning of the conflict in Libya, they transmitted information about events from words or based on materials provided by Western media.
    6. +3
      24 August 2011 10: 58
      "People's exultation" in Tripoli was shot in advance in Qatar. The deception was revealed by the meticulous viewers of the TV channels, who made stop shots of the “night festival on the Green Square” and found there a lot of discrepancies with real photographs, and even with video frames taken on the square quite recently.

    7. +1
      24 August 2011 11: 02
      Western media have pleased the photos of the dead Bin laden Gaddafi:



      But, here's the bad luck, the fake was quickly detected:

      1. Garfield
        0
        25 August 2011 00: 14
        Filter ether and links !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (VadimIS Yesterday, 11:02)

        Garfield Yesterday, 09: 40 http://obozrevatel.com/blogs/pravoslavnyij-foto-mertvogo-kaddafi.-to-chto-budet-

        zavtra .... htm

        It is inexpedient to ship news about which everyone already knows!
    8. +1
      24 August 2011 11: 47
      The new falsification ... screwed up again .... like with a fluttering flag in a vacuum when landing on the moon ...
      Although ... the public with their brains overpowered by "democracy" will swallow ...
      1. Dovmont
        +1
        24 August 2011 16: 34
        Apparently it was not Anglo screwed up - the Saxons and the gentlemen standing behind them with cocks Adam's apple, pointed ears and a characteristic laryngeal pronon. But the Arabs screwed up, allowing themselves to be plunged into a civil war. Cream will obviously not be they.
        1. +2
          24 August 2011 16: 53
          I do not know what percentage of real Libyans among the rebels, so I can not judge the degree of their guilt. Here they quoted above Krylov ... you are to blame for the fact that I want to eat ... there is nothing to add ... But his rabble is full everywhere.
          But about those standing behind their backs ... purely theoretically: it’s good to create a myth about a harmful nation, on which you can blame everything if something happens ... In my subjective opinion, those who rule can have any roots, any citizenship, they are now only by the presence of cash and factories of factories, newspapers, steamboats can be calculated ... and hardly by Forbes ...
    9. alseek
      0
      24 August 2011 11: 51
      Campaign us bred, why Hamas and Iran act together with the Americans? As far as I understand, these are the worst enemies who have united to fight Gaddafi? What did he annoy with?
      The world is definitely changing, the whole struggle is ahead, but we are not ready for it.
      1. borkovn
        0
        25 August 2011 21: 43
        Yes, the world is changing. Russia and friends / forgeries / like Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and Sev. Korea lose their influence day after day .. She / RUSSIA / herself will go? I do not believe it! She goes to the bottom along with the commemoration of comrades. The truth is this -whether you want it or not. If your criminals are your friends, what?
        1. Mesniy
          0
          30 August 2011 00: 54
          And the allies of Russia are completely all rubble ...
    10. +3
      24 August 2011 12: 11
      The information war is gaining the upper hand, the disclosures are no longer important, they come later. But the panic does its job and people flee believing in these shots and in the fall of the city.
      And can our army and people, with patriotism as in the winter of 1941, become a wall for the current government of the country, in front of the enemy, no matter what? Technology will allow to show the burning Kremlin and the fall of Moscow, but faith inside a person should be stronger than any personnel.
    11. hellbringer
      0
      24 August 2011 13: 20
      I would have postulated otherwise in the place of Gaddafi, I would have taken out women and children, allegedly would have retreated from the city with battles, having previously mined mainly the central regions, so that they would not have been immediately discovered, and then at the agreed hour I would have put everything into action, then when there there will be rebels with military experts, for loyalty I would have fertilized everything with "hail" so that the stones were smaller - an even platform for the construction of a new tripoli for the future.
      1. borkovn
        0
        25 August 2011 21: 51
        The word ORGANIZATION is neither Russian nor Arabic. What is this underestimated ty?
    12. +2
      24 August 2011 13: 48
      Western intelligence and special forces are fighting in Libya. This is not a legitimate invasion of the country. There are no more laws, no more UN, no justice. Someone is stronger and right. They don’t even remember that the resolution allowed only to clear the sky over Libya. Previously invented horror stories about weapons of mass destruction (Iraq) and now?
      Be quiet! I'm tired of listening.
      Leisure me sort your fault, puppy!
      It’s your fault that I want to eat,
      Said -and in the dark forest lamb dragged.
      A.I. Krylov
      1. svvaulsh
        0
        24 August 2011 15: 01
        Krylov! However! But when it is written!
    13. 0
      24 August 2011 14: 52
      On Wednesday, August 24, a NATO landing force landed on the coast of Libya. It consisted of 500 French soldiers and 200 British troops. In addition to NATO members, 100 Qatari mercenaries landed on the territory of the republic.
      http://www.km.ru/v-mire/2011/08/24/voina-v-livii/v-shturme-tripoli-uchastvovali-
      natovskie-i-katarskie-desantniki
    14. Captain
      +11
      24 August 2011 16: 00
      CNN doesn't even know where Libya is. What kind of objectivity can we talk about?
      1. +2
        24 August 2011 16: 54
        Bonus to you!
        Well, dumb!
        This headless crap is broadcasting to the whole world, and the rest, opening their mouths, swallow these ficas.
        1. Mesniy
          -1
          30 August 2011 00: 55
          Don't look dumber yourself, you won’t find ...
      2. ballian
        -5
        24 August 2011 19: 01
        1) You will be surprised, but also the city of Tripoli in Lebanon
        2) In Lebanon Tripoli, clashes between supporters and opponents of the dictator of Syria Assad also take place
        3)
        CNN acknowledged its blooper
        http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn-international-highlights-wrong-tripoli-i
        n-graphic_b81679
      3. kuberel
        -1
        24 August 2011 23: 33
        yeah, keep your pocket. "Tripoli" is drawn on the map, so we will bomb there :)
    15. -1
      24 August 2011 16: 27
      Captain- Yes, the hot news from CNN is that something is like the whole war. Let's see what happens next.
    16. +4
      24 August 2011 16: 30
      Viewing news from Libya causes a contradictory impression. On the one hand, there is simply amazing cynicism of Europe and America, which tore the country to pieces, in general, did nothing wrong to them, but on the contrary, it cooperated economically with them with might and main. On the other hand, the enthusiastic local fucking ... would, with their own hands destroyed their own well-fed and quiet life. I don’t even feel sorry for them, tearing up Mukhamorych’s portraits, I think that sobering up from this obsession will come much faster than they think. You do not need to be a prophet to predict how soon the same people will tear each other's throats when dividing "humanitarian aid" and snot looking at their old people and children dying of hunger and disease. In short, long live the new Somalia. By the way, to our locals, who want to "go for the Kyrgyz", a vivid example is "what dreams lead to ..."
      1. zczczc
        0
        25 August 2011 00: 21
        Yes, not a fact. Those who ripped Libya are interested in maintaining minimal stability to pump oil.

        Do you think for what reason Yeltsin was changed to Putin? To smoothly surrender the country, and not through chaos. In the event of chaos, it is difficult to take out the resources - the pipes will call out in an elementary way.
    17. 0
      24 August 2011 16: 35
      Yes, in general, it amazes me who these media take us for, because even a slightly adequate person will immediately understand what to take a city in one day, it’s not even a fairy tale, but in general .. Taking any city, or even a town, is a complicated military operation, and even the whole military the Imperialist’s machine couldn’t take a city like Tripoli in a day, not to mention some gang formations ..
    18. 0
      24 August 2011 16: 36
      Yes, in general, it amazes me who these media take us for, because even a slightly adequate person will immediately understand what to take a city in one day, it’s not even a fairy tale, but in general .. Taking any city, or even a town, is a complicated military operation, and even the whole military the Imperialist’s machine couldn’t take a city like Tripoli in a day, not to mention some gang formations ..
    19. +1
      24 August 2011 16: 39
      Yes, in general, it amazes me who these media take us for, because even a slightly adequate person will immediately understand what to take a city in one day, it’s not even a fairy tale, but generally a breeder .. Taking any city, or even a town, is a complicated military operation, and even the whole the imperialist war machine could not take a city like Tripoli in a day, not to mention some gang formations ..
      1. ballian
        -7
        24 August 2011 18: 08
        Dear - the city is taken, this is not a fairy tale at all, but a true story, not for one so for two or three
        You forget such an important concept as morale - remember how Baghdad was taken - and then it was about foreign troops, and in Tripoli it clearly became clear where the wind was blowing after the last victories of the rebels - it’s unlikely that there were many who were ready to give LIFE for, even and Gaddafi himself.
        1. +1
          24 August 2011 18: 17
          Well, from Tomsk know better .... fellow
        2. +3
          24 August 2011 19: 20
          Where does the information that the city is taken from? From the broadcast from Bahrain Square, where are the professional actors portraying joyful Bedouins?
          1. ballian
            -7
            24 August 2011 20: 03
            I do not understand something? Watch the video of euronews - the rebels in the residence of Gaddafi and the government quarter, however, Gaddafi himself on the radio admitted that he left there.
            1. +1
              25 August 2011 11: 33
              Of course, he left the residence, but what should he die under the bombs according to you? What should he do where there is no stone on stone? He simply moved to another part of the city, and his troops continue to actively fight rebels throughout tripoli
        3. +4
          24 August 2011 20: 08
          The muddy mole ballian is trying to consider the victory, where it is NOT !!!! The country is mired in a civil war. Now the euphoria will subside and what will we see? And we will see that the country from oil producing and having not bad money will become the first borrower of money on the foreign market! ! Of course, the oil industry will quickly be restored, but which Western leader needs the Libyan people with their troubles and aspirations? In Iraq, the Yankees did not rush to rebuild schools and hospitals and here they will be .... below the waist ..... well, you understand !! ! American democracy - we are the beads for you, and you give us oil !!!
    20. 0
      24 August 2011 16: 44
      there was such a film about jace bond-tomorrow will never die-- all these events well, right from there.
    21. +1
      24 August 2011 17: 40
      It seems that NATO has confirmed something with a UN resolution. The media is throwing dust in the eyes, and they are already unloading the marines there. After the capture of the city, they will be dumped from there and put jubilant Bedouins.
    22. slan
      0
      24 August 2011 18: 53
      This farce is from despair. Pindos behave more and more extraordinary. They humiliate themselves with cheap and vile lies, support the Islamists like "if you can't stop drinking, then you need to lead it ..
      Relatively soon, Israel pesta, apparently.
      1. 0
        24 August 2011 19: 37
        More than sure, the amers will soon declare these same rebels to be enemies, pump it through the media, declaring them Alkaida that is already known, and Libya will again become their military training ground .. Remember the same Iraq, it was the amers who helped Hussein to come to power, Afghanistan, helped the Taliban are now fighting .. There are a lot of ways how to turn the country into a field for their military experiments ..
        The same Israel, it’s clear to the hedgehog that the Libyan rebels do not have the best feelings for him, I am simply struck by the hypocrisy of the West, they can help anyone even their worst enemy, (rebels = Alkaida + Islamists) and if necessary, they declare them the axis of evil, and help Israel, they do not care who they kill, Muslims, Christians, Orthodox .. they are enemies of the very concept of humanity ..
        1. LESHA pancake
          +4
          24 August 2011 20: 07
          so gentlemen comrades get ready .WEST will try on similar technologies of overthrowing power in RUSSIA.
    23. His
      -4
      24 August 2011 20: 49
      Shameful kadafi his army does not know how to fight, why does he then need modern weapons
      1. +1
        25 August 2011 11: 51
        This Gaddafi does not know how? He defeated the separatists in a week, when we fought in Chechnya for several years. And only when they started throwing him tomahawks, he did not begin to do anything and allowed the remnants of the rebels, again to intimidate the population and make many cities known.

        But as for the rebels, they don’t fight at all, they just watch how bombs fall on Kadafi, and if they fire at least one shot like rats run away ... they really deal with prisoners very cruelly, but I don’t consider it courage. .
        Speaking directly, the rebels did not take a single city, and did not win a single victory, they only entered the places that the regular troops left due to intensive bombing, the same thing with the residence that they allegedly captured .. The problem of Gaddafi is that Now he has to constantly move, due to the fact that the six-month bombing of the capital turned it into ruins (because NATO planes bombed from a great height, not aiming, fearing that they would be knocked down) and there was no sense in it, but hunting for him will continue ..
        1. ballian
          -2
          25 August 2011 12: 25
          Well, you bent "turned into ruins", "without aiming" - you contradict yourself - if they hadn't aimed, then Gaddaffi's troops would have had no problems. There are no "carpet" bombings in Libya - everyone recognizes this, and their intensity small - 30 - 40 sorties per day.
          The rest is clearly your speculation.
          .
          As for the "might" of the Libyan army - type "Toyota war" on the Internet - in Chad, the local rebels could not be called "regular" either; nevertheless, the Libyan army got there in full and retreated in disgrace from Chad.
          Here is a photo of the Chadian rebels http://auto.fishki.net/en/comment.php?id=22432
          1. +1
            25 August 2011 14: 01
            And where is the contradiction? a huge number of civilian buildings in ruins, I'm not talking about the whole city, because all the bombs will not be enough for him, but the economy is completely undermined. And the troops of Qadafi themselves have no problems, civilians and civilian infrastructure have problems. I’m not saying that not a single bomb falls on Gaddafi’s army, but 99% of these bombs fall on peaceful objects. These are facts! Since the pilots need those still cowardly dogs, they won’t go down too low, and the accuracy of hitting them is almost zero from a height .. But for them there’s not much difference, because destroying peaceful objects they undermine the supply of the army ..
            1. ballian
              -4
              25 August 2011 15: 01
              you want it so much so that there was "not a single bomb ..", 99% and there were "cowardly dogs" - modern precision weapons have very high accuracy, and the problems are big for the Gaddaffi army - there is no way to undermine the supply of the army with missile bombs on civilian objects
              1. +1
                25 August 2011 15: 19
                Well, then one of the two, either their high-precision weapons is not so accurate, or they just do not fly close enough to the target, and they shoot missiles into the blind if only civilian objects are destroyed .. And by the way, why is the Army suddenly having big problems ? From TV reports that contradict themselves every day. The media have already compromised themselves so much that they do not have to respect themselves, and you need to trust not only what they show, but simply common sense.
                1. ballian
                  -1
                  26 August 2011 08: 21
                  Quote: DEfindER
                  if only civilian objects are destroyed

                  Well, if you want to think so - think. Each pilot has a video that removes the defeat of goals - no one will let such a pilot fly.
                  the fact that Gaddafi's army is almost crushed is already a fact - by the way, on the video of the residence and the government quarter "Bab al-Aziziya" of destruction from NATO air force, Gaddafi himself admitted on the radio that he was forced to flee with the army because 64 missiles got there in recent days ...
        2. Mesniy
          -1
          30 August 2011 00: 51
          Yes, you just collapsed from the oak, dude ...
    24. +2
      24 August 2011 21: 09
      another proof of the actual conduct of the ground operation - the attack of the Libyan rebels on the government complex "Bab al-Aziziya" was led by the special forces of the UAE and Qatar, writes The Evening Standard newspaper.

      According to the newspaper, it was the foreigners who were in the forefront of the advancing opposition forces and they were the first to break into the house where Muammar Gaddafi lived with his family. Once inside, the Qatari, in particular, began to search the building in search of documents and computers that could contain important information.
      http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/08/24/qatari/
      1. zczczc
        +2
        25 August 2011 00: 24
        What is the difference when exactly they took or will take Tripoli for good? The dynamics of the process are obvious.

        But we have lost another fulcrum in the region.
    25. +2
      24 August 2011 22: 31
      Gentlemen! I must congratulate all of you on the fact that the times of "Gunboat Diplomacy" and "Opium Wars" are back in our mortal world! So forget about any progress, humanism, the struggle for peace and other mossy attributes of the Cold War, "there is a clear rollback of social relations towards archaization ... What will happen next?
    26. Crazyzy
      0
      25 August 2011 12: 06
      Eh, Gaddafi missed a great moment to defeat the separatists or the so-called Western media "rebels". Gaddafi's troops besieged Benghazi and it was necessary to storm the "rebel stronghold."
      When the earthquake in Japan occurred, for 3-4 days all the attention of journalists and "the whole world" was riveted on the victims
      in Japan and the events at the Fukushima nuclear power plant, and Libya was assigned a secondary role.
    27. Ivan35
      -1
      25 August 2011 19: 22
      The world is now governed by the law of the jungle - the one who is stronger is more arrogant and unprincipled. And if we do not want to see the burning Kremlin and the ruins of Moscow in CNN reports, then as they say Si vis pacem, para bellum
      I repeat again and again - the first task is to restore the Union - and those who sing along to the pendos and Anglo-Saxons in their attempts to split the peoples of the union - they are all the same enemies
    28. mitrich
      0
      25 August 2011 19: 58
      22nd SAS regiment (Great Britain), scabs of the 2nd regiment of the Foreign Legion (France) dressed in Bedouin clothes - here is the answer to the riddle of the victory of the "opposition" in Tripoli. And these rebels are only "Allahu Akbar!" ready to shout and transfer ammunition into the air.
      This is not my imagination, but a link to an official statement by the UK MoD (heard today by Euronews).
    29. gendoss
      -1
      25 August 2011 20: 21
      You guys are conscious and erudite citizens, What kind of oil?
      Who needs it! Compared to the full-scale transition from the dollar of this green piece of paper, and nothing absolutely unconfirmed to the golden dinar, which Gaddafi had been preparing for 10 years with the support of almost 8 Eastern countries in which, by the way, now "DEMOCRACY" is also happening !!!!!!!! !!!!!!

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