"Aurora" in the repair dock

The ship-museum "Aurora" is installed in the repair dock. The cruiser, which in September went to the repair of the Kronstadt Marine Plant of the Russian Defense Ministry, will return to the place of "eternal parking" at the Petrograd Embankment of St. Petersburg in 2016 - the anniversary of the branch of the Central Naval Museum.












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  1. Buran 23 November 2014 07: 05 New
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    What do you dream about, cruiser Aurora
    At an hour when the clouds rise over the country!
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    2. Revolver 23 November 2014 08: 00 New
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      Put on the move, on the Dnieper to fit to Kiev, and once again idle from the same gun ...
      1. wanderer987 23 November 2014 08: 20 New
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        Well, if near Kiev and single from Aurora, then there will be a big environmental disaster, at the poop from feces the Dnieper will come off the coast, and Psaki will start to stutter! wassat
        1. Stalker
          Stalker 23 November 2014 09: 02 New
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          Well, if near Kiev and single from Aurora, then there will be a big environmental disaster, at the poop from feces the Dnieper will come off the coast, and Psaki will start to stutter!

          Well then, it is better to make sure that Aurora is on the go and put around the world !!!
          The effect will be many times more !!! laughing
          1. APASUS 23 November 2014 09: 37 New
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            Quote: Stalker
            Well then, it is better to make sure that Aurora is on the move and put around the world !!! The effect will be many times more !!!

            Just such a proposal was received, to restore the ship for practice on it like sailing ships. This would be perhaps the best memory
            But something did not grow together
            1. loft79 24 November 2014 01: 41 New
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              Quote: Stalker
              Well then, it is better to make sure that Aurora is on the move and put around the world !!! The effect will be many times more !!!
              Just such a proposal was received, to restore the ship for practice on it like sailing ships. This would be perhaps the best memory
              But something did not grow together

              Unfortunately Aurora is not on the move. There are no boilers. And replacing boilers and a car, for example, with diesel is no longer an Aurora.
              1. abrakadabre 24 November 2014 09: 02 New
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                And what is the technical problem to weld boilers from the sheet? I would generally suggest a complete reconstruction of the original project.
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        3. miv110 23 November 2014 12: 33 New
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          Something similar has already been depicted by M. Weller in the work “The Messenger of Pisa”
      2. abrakadabre 24 November 2014 09: 01 New
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        Put on the move, on the Dnieper to fit to Kiev, and once again idle from the same gun ...
        Nah. Let’s already on the banks of the Potomac. Or what is their river called there?
    3. Giant thought 23 November 2014 09: 40 New
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      We hope that after the repair the symbol of the Russian revolution will look like new.
      1. Andrey Skokovsky 23 November 2014 16: 26 New
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        I repeat one more time ... to Petersburg officials and Petersburgers:
        it would be nice to remove the advertising signs immediately after Aurora,
        I understand that creative managers are creative, but the interests of the state should be higher than the dough
        I want that after the repair it showed off against the background of the inscription Russia, or St. Petersburg
        One of the country's symbols SHOULD NOT show off against the background of the name of a commercial foreign company
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    5. zeleznijdorojnik 23 November 2014 15: 53 New
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      And from the stern in the same dock is “Krasin” - pay attention to the second photo.
    6. podpolkovnik 24 November 2014 09: 55 New
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      Quote: Buran
      What do you dream about, cruiser Aurora
      At an hour when the clouds rise over the country!

      Will they be in time for the 17 year?
      And then the anniversary ...
  2. Name 23 November 2014 07: 07 New
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    Greetings to all! After the repair and re-equipment to the shores of Cuba with a parking lot of half a year .... And I hear .. laughing
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      1. Denis 23 November 2014 07: 21 New
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        Let it be repaired rather, otherwise the embankment is not so without it
        1. valokordin 23 November 2014 09: 42 New
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          Let it be repaired rather, otherwise the embankment is not so without it

          Actually, the Koreans tanker, the French helicopter carrier build in a year and a half, and to repair the old cruiser, 4 years. They want to gilt it. But the cruiser is both imperial and revolutionary, not oligarchic.
          1. APASUS 23 November 2014 10: 44 New
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            Quote: valokordin
            Actually, the Koreans tanker, the French helicopter carrier build in a year and a half, and to repair the old cruiser, 4 years. They want to gilt it. But the cruiser is both imperial and revolutionary, not oligarchic.

            What do you want if wooden forests pound around strategic missile carriers (repairs after the fire of one of them have recently been completed by Yekaterinburg)
          2. pvv113 23 November 2014 11: 22 New
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            Why 4 years? Aurora has just been put in for repair, and in 2016 it will go out of repair hi
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          4. gunya 23 November 2014 17: 00 New
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            valokordin (2) RU 
            Actually, the Koreans tanker, the French helicopter carrier build in a year and a half, and to repair the old cruiser, 4 years. They want to gilt it. But the cruiser is both imperial and revolutionary, not oligarchic


            But the oligarchs on the repair "earn"wassat
        2. Ghjynjyjoiiyr
          Ghjynjyjoiiyr 23 November 2014 10: 01 New
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          Nevsky Feng Shui ... was broken!
    2. Ghjynjyjoiiyr
      Ghjynjyjoiiyr 23 November 2014 10: 00 New
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      ".... under the cover of a white night ...."
  3. dchegrinec 23 November 2014 07: 11 New
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    A wonderful monument! Repair must be done like an egg ..
    1. Renat 23 November 2014 07: 58 New
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      To Christ's day? I was going to Peter to go, I have to postpone it. The Hermitage is certainly good, only without the Aurora the tour will be inferior.
    2. Penelope 23 November 2014 11: 02 New
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      Comrade repairers, you’ll try to do better repairs there.
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  4. MIKHAN 23 November 2014 07: 11 New
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    The legendary Aurora ..! But from it a little in the 90s did not make a tavern ...
    1. Denis 23 November 2014 07: 25 New
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      But a little tavern was not made of it in 90's ...

      Then from just a little tavern with a mess did not
      On Aurora, they were afraid of arranging chaos, it would not have worked out quietly. The yellow press was revealing something there, but for that it was yellow
      1. Buran 23 November 2014 07: 37 New
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        And now a lot of jackals are spinning, but the bear is on the mend.
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      dyremar 66 rus 23 November 2014 08: 18 New
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      in the seventies, the entire lower part was cut to the waterline and made a new one — and in general, little remains of historical aurora ...
      1. Barboskin 23 November 2014 09: 03 New
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        in the seventies, the entire lower part was cut to the waterline and made a new one — and in general, little remains of historical aurora ...
        The Japanese from their Mikasa (a contemporary of Aurora) also cut off the entire lower part and established an armadillo on the shore. Do not forget to spit in their direction.
      2. Denis 23 November 2014 10: 02 New
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        Quote: dyremar 66 rus
        in the seventies, the entire lower part was cut to the waterline and made a new one — and in general, little remains of historical aurora ...

        For accuracy
        The interdepartmental commission convened by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy in the fall of 1980, after six months of work, presented a conclusion on the technical condition of the hull and proposed three ways to ensure cruiser buoyancy. After two years of research, all three options were rejected: they decided to carry out a repair repair with the replacement of damaged elements of the hull structures. The Northern Design Bureau was appointed as the designer, and the shipbuilder named after A. A. Zhdanov became the contractor. Despite protests from fleet historians seeking to preserve a unique monument of technology and history, engineers decided to completely replace the underwater part using modern technology.
        18 August 1984 year, the cruiser Aurora was aft forward brought up to the wall of the plant. The following year, the hull was entered into the dock, where almost the entire underwater part of the hull was separated. At the end of summer, the repaired equipment was loaded into the newly rebuilt bottom and installation of the armored deck began. Belleville-Dolgolenko boilers were replaced with mock-ups; the car was saved. Part of the unnecessary armor went to the manufacture of commemorative crafts and souvenirs. After completion in the boathouse, by April 1987, the ends of the cruiser were welded with bronze pins, on which pieces of a genuine hull were attached; In addition, superstructures, pipes and masts were installed. Then the reconstruction of the premises was started, which they tried to restore in their original form.
        And for lovers of souvenirs, yellow and fried
        The lower part of the ship's hull was towed to the naval base of the Navy in the coastal strip of the Gulf of Finland near the village of Ruchey, where it was sawn into pieces and flooded. Parts of the ship sticking out of the water, at the end of the 1980 years, the inhabitants of the village dragged on building materials.
      3. romandostalo 24 November 2014 00: 46 New
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        Not in the seventies, but in the eighties at the Zhdanov plant.
  5. bronik 23 November 2014 07: 30 New
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    Preparing for 2017 so that they don’t forget. Are the Aurora guns also modernizing?
    1. Egoza 23 November 2014 07: 41 New
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      Do the Aurora guns upgrade too?

      Well yes! And V.I. Lenin "floats on a boat on the Moscow River and measures the sixth depth, saying" Aurora will pass! " fellow
    2. wanderer987 23 November 2014 07: 44 New
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      The Aurora guns will definitely be repaired, 152 mm calibers are just right for "special ammunition", Let Europe and the Baltic states tremble if they don’t want peace with Russia, it will be like in the advertisement "Then we go to you" !!! laughing
      1. hrych 23 November 2014 07: 54 New
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        And, what is it, into pipes on the Yars, into the ventilation sockets on the RCC and let it float to itself ...
    3. Denis 23 November 2014 08: 18 New
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      [quote = bronik] Preparing for the 2017 year, so as not to be forgotten. Aurora guns also upgrade? [/ quote]
      In that fun, only one, the tank participated [quote] On the memorial plaque mounted on the right side of the half-tower, the inscription: “6-inch tank gun from which the historic shot was shot 25 on October 1917 of the year at the time of the capture of the Winter Palace. The cruiser Aurora 1927 g. ". [Quote] During the Great Patriotic War, the personnel and weapons of the Aurora participated in the heroic defense of Leningrad. The cruiser spent the whole war in Oranienbaum near Leningrad. The ship was included in the Kronstadt air defense system. From the very first days of the blockade of the city, he repelled the attacks of German aircraft with the fire of his anti-aircraft artillery. In winter, the Aurora continued to serve as a floating base for connecting submarines. Cruiser sailors and cadets went to the operating ships of the Baltic Fleet, to the ships of the newly created river flotillas, to the land Leningrad front. An artillery battery “A” was formed from the 9 130-mm Aurora guns, whose firing positions were located in the Duderhof area southwest of Leningrad. The cruiser sailors who served on this battery took an unequal battle with the Germans and died the death of the brave, to the end fulfilling their military duty 6 - 13 September 1941 of the year. The cruiser himself, after suffering damage from artillery shells on 30 on September 1941, was put on the ground on an even keel in Oranienbaum harbor. The remaining guns were unloaded from it, but until the very end of the war the Aurora did not lower the USSR Naval flag. [/ quote]
      The very famous guns from the cruiser Aurora that defended our city in Blockade
      1. Professor 23 November 2014 08: 39 New
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        Quote: Denis
        Those famous guns from the cruiser Aurora,

        The most powerful in the history of mankind, one blank shot and 70 years of devastation on the 1 / 6 planet ...

        Good luck repairing Aurora. hi
        1. Denis 23 November 2014 08: 52 New
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          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Denis
          Those famous guns from the cruiser Aurora,

          The most powerful in the history of mankind, one blank shot and 70 years of devastation on the 1 / 6 planet ...

          Not a topic for jokes, especially talking about another
          The very famous guns from the cruiser Aurora that defended our city in Blockade
          I have so
          Yes, and the October Revolution (or the coup, it's not about that) and the Second World War even differ in dates
          1. Professor 23 November 2014 09: 07 New
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            Quote: Denis
            Not a topic for jokes,

            Yes lano ... And to fit it to Kiev is this not a joke? request
            1. Denis 23 November 2014 09: 25 New
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              Quote: Professor
              And to fit it to Kiev is not a joke?

              Do you like their politics?
              1. Professor 23 November 2014 09: 33 New
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                Quote: Denis
                Do you like their politics?

                I refuse to discuss politics and Kiev. The topic of Aurora and it is herself, her performance characteristics and historical place in history I will discuss with pleasure.
                1. APASUS 23 November 2014 09: 43 New
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                  I refuse to discuss politics and Kiev.

                  It’s interesting, what is your position in Kiev related to, that you refuse to discuss them? Please explain your opinion.
                  1. Professor 23 November 2014 09: 44 New
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                    Quote: APASUS
                    I wonder what is your position in Kiev related to, that you refuse to discuss them?

                    Tired of ukrosrach.
                    1. APASUS 23 November 2014 16: 28 New
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                      Tired of ukrosrach.

                      You are a serious person, as usual trolls are engaged in trolls, but patriots cheers, express your vision of what is happening in Ukraine (unless of course it bothers you)
                2. Denis 23 November 2014 09: 57 New
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                  Quote: Professor
                  her performance characteristics

                  Especially them?
                  It is known that they were not the most outstanding
                  1. Professor 23 November 2014 09: 59 New
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                    Quote: Denis
                    Especially them?
                    It is known that they were not the most outstanding

                    Interesting anyway. Especially because his messengers have decayed long ago, and here he is.
        2. Saburov 23 November 2014 09: 07 New
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          Of course, Professor, that Judov can still be expected from you, but if you start from the course of your thoughts, then first you had to put the word Holocaust in power and you can milk Germany for it at all, there are such amounts that Aurora is five hundred or from the Old Testament, you can declare the land of Nabateev and Hannanei your own, but God promised you to slaughter the local population, take away territories and deal with the neighboring states. And if you take into account the fact that how many of you are in the US government, starting even with Bernanke, the very strange question arises: who is universal evil and who are lovers of the most terrible weapons in the form of silverfish, given your lobby in the country So Aurora compared to your greed and hypocrisy, a children's toy.
          1. Professor 23 November 2014 09: 09 New
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            Quote: Saburov
            And considering the fact how many you are in the US government

            But really, how much? It was always interesting. Only in PM please. Why clog the topic. hi
            1. wanderer987 23 November 2014 09: 27 New
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              But really, how much? It was always interesting. Only in PM please. Why clog up the topic.

              There could be no other answer! Typical behavior, a little fried smelled "back" include!
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                Quote: wanderer987
                There could be another answer! Typical behavior, a little fried smelled "back" include!

                Well so and you enlighten me, how many ours are there, only by name and in a personal pliz.
            2. Saburov 23 November 2014 09: 47 New
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              If you are interested, you can look at the nationality and religion of the US Senate, presidential advisers, it's all in the public domain. Although your first statement also looks like a paradox, considering how many of yours were at the forefront of turning Russia into brushwood for the world revolution.
              1. Professor 23 November 2014 09: 56 New
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                Quote: Saburov
                If you are interested, you can look at the nationality and religion of the US Senate, presidential advisers, it's all in the public domain.

                Well, throw off the little list in PM, and then one continuous chatter. After all, you are aware of who is there who once you say this.
            3. Saburov 23 November 2014 22: 02 New
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              Why in PM, let everyone know. Here you are at least from the past, although there are no former ones. Secretary of State - Madeleine Albright Minister of Finance - Robert Rubin Minister of Defense - William Cohen Head of CIA - George Tenet Head of National Security Council - Semuel Berger Minister of Agriculture - Dan Glickman Head of Federal Reserve System - Allan Greenspan Minister of Health - Sandy Christoph President of Voice of America - Evelyn Lieberman Deputy. Minister for European Affairs - Charlie Barschwski Head of the National Economic Council - Gene Sterling Head of the National Office for Health - Ira Storer Deputy. Secretary of State - Peter Tornoff Assistant Secretary of State for Congress - Wendy Sherman Member of the Economic Council - Alie Rivlin Member of the Economic CouncilJannette Elian Presidential Advisor - Ram Emmanuel Presidential Advisor - Doug Sosnik Chairman of the National Security Council - Jim Steinberg Director of the National Security Council for writing speeches - Head Anthony Blink Anti-Drug Unit - Robert Weiner Jewish Community Liaison Officer - Jay Futlik Head of the Presidential Human Resources Department - Robert Our Attorney General Presidential Executive - Jane Cherburn Asia Security Council Expert - Mark Peney Special Presidential Advisor - Jeff Eller National Health Advisor - Tom Epstein. Member of the Security Council Nationalist - Judith Feder Deputy. Veterans' Minister - Richard Feinberg Representative of the Head of the Food and Drug Administration - Herschel Gober Member of the White House Council - Stif Kessler Deputy. Minister of Education - Ron Klein Press Conference Director - Margaret Hamburg Director of the National Department of Politics - Karen Alder Member of the National Security Council - Samuel Lewis Head of Peace Corps Corps - Dan Shifter Deputy Chief of Staff - Eli Segal Deputy Director for Industry and Budget - Jack Lew Under Secretary General - James P. Rubin Under Secretary of the Treasury - David Lipton Presidential Advisor - Luckney P. Brewer NATO Representative - Richard Holbrook Head From ate Social Security - Kenef Affel White House Council Representative - Joel Klein Special Advisor to the President's Spouse - Sidney Blumenthal Head of the Food and Drug Administration - David Kessler Deputy: Justice Minister - SefWaxman Special Representative for the Middle East - Denis Ross Chief FBI Attorney - Howard Shagshra White House Special Advisor - Lanny Davis Management and Budget Secretary - Sally Katzen Head of the FBI Equality - Kathleen Koch Deputy Head of Staff Committee - D Jon Podesta Vice Chairman of the Federal Reserve - Alan Blinder Chief Advisor to the Economic Council
              1. Professor 24 November 2014 18: 26 New
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                Some of them are really Jews, and the rest of you are listed as non-Russian? wink
                1. Saburov 24 November 2014 22: 21 New
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                  No, not by name, but by typical facial expression and elementary attentiveness, do you have purebred maternal?
                  1. Professor 24 November 2014 22: 29 New
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                    Quote: Saburov
                    No, not by name, but by typical facial expression and elementary attentiveness, do you have purebred maternal?

                    That is, like your like-minded people in terms of skull size, eye color, well ... you know.

                    PS
                    Jews do not have the concept of "purebred." The purity of blood is monitored more by your like-minded people. And for damage to this "purity" even sent to the camps. Remind me?
                    1. Saburov 25 November 2014 12: 36 New
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                      Something you didn’t rank me in the wrong category, you need it to be the Nazis, but the facts speak for themselves, take an interest in your leisure time, raise the pedigree of many senators, it’s not difficult.
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                        Something you didn’t rank me in the wrong category, you need it to be the Nazis, but the facts speak for themselves, take an interest in your leisure time, raise the pedigree of many senators, it’s not difficult.

                        Uh ... no, dear. The Nazis blame the Jews for all troubles. The Nazis talk about purity of blood. The Nazis check the pedigree because they care what nationality a person is, and not what he is. The Nazis are looking for Jews where he is and even where they are not. Do you recognize yourself? And how do you personally differ from the Nazis? Give three examples please.

                        I would have changed your profile picture in your place. Do not dishonor the form that my grandfather, by the way a Jew, depicted.
        3. Nagaibak 23 November 2014 09: 43 New
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          Professor "The most powerful in the history of mankind, one single shot and 70 years of devastation on 1/6 of the planet."
          The ruin of some in their heads.))))
        4. bistrov. 23 November 2014 10: 07 New
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          70 years of devastation on 1/6 of the planet ...

          About the "70 years of devastation," are you serious? And now, then, a golden age? Not long ago I was in the village of Nikolskoye, Oryol Oblast, about 50 people study at school and drunks roam with blue faces, and ruined cowsheds stand. And in 61, the local school had more than 700 students and 400 livestock on the local collective farm. There is something to compare.
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            About the "70 years of devastation," are you serious?

            And you compare with the bourgeois, with rotting Europe, for example, well, there or what Japan. They didn’t shoot at idle there ...
            1. bistrov. 23 November 2014 11: 09 New
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              And you compare with the bourgeois, with decaying Europe, for example, well, there or what Japan.

              That you poke everything with this Europe, whose entire prosperity is built on the robbery of the colonies both earlier and now. You at least read political economy, what is colonialism, neocolonialism, where does wealth come from under capitalism, who attacked whom and so on.
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                That you poke everything with this Europe, whose entire prosperity is built on the robbery of the colonies both earlier and now.

                Class. good But the naive thought that the Germans are working hard and living well, but it turns out they are robbing colonies. By the way, what kind of colony do the Germans have there? What about the Shevedians and the Swiss? wink
                1. Saburov 23 November 2014 21: 56 New
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                  Well, if the Germans or Swiss, or even Americans, were surrounded on all sides with bases, embargoes, sanctions, constantly engaged in subversive activities, there was a boycott of goods and products, as was the case with the USSR, then I think they would not have lasted ten years.
                  PS Next time, before you blurt out something like that, think carefully with your head, otherwise you don’t pull at the professor, at most at the arrogant nerd.
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                    Well, if the Germans or Swiss, or even Americans, were surrounded on all sides with bases, embargoes, sanctions, constantly engaged in subversive activities, there was a boycott of goods and products, as was the case with the USSR, then I think they would not have lasted ten years.
                    PS Next time, before you blurt out something like that, think carefully with your head, otherwise you don’t pull at the professor, at most at the arrogant nerd.

                    All around you are to blame. Maybe look in the mirror first? wink
                    1. Saburov 24 November 2014 22: 23 New
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                      Of course we are to blame, in your opinion it was necessary to rush across the overgrown west, so that the poles would not be put in wheels?
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                        Of course we are to blame, in your opinion it was necessary to rush across the overgrown west, so that the poles would not be put in wheels?

                        But besides neighbors, "plowing" does not occur to another thought? For example, working better and defeating "fools and roads"? wink
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                        I did not expect anything else from you. Firstly, we need to learn history, and secondly, we are able to work better than yours, and thirdly, since you yourself do not know about the ways of economic and political pressure on the USSR, then the point is in this conversation, as you said one chatter, only everything is exactly the opposite.
                        PS It's like when five people kick you, and you manage to fight back, plant cucumbers and defend your doctorate.
                      3. Professor 25 November 2014 17: 49 New
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                        Firstly, we need to learn history, and secondly, we are able to work better than yours

                        Tell me about how they worked in the scoop, as if I did not live there and did not work at the factory. Unlike you, I managed to work in the West and now I work in a Singapore company. So there is something to compare. The proletarians were not overworked, I am generally silent about collective farmers. Fortunately, students, NTRovtsy and soldiers helped.

                        Quote: Saburov
                        since you yourself do not know about the ways of economic and political pressure on the USSR, then the point in this conversation, as you said one chatter, is just the exact opposite.

                        What a white and fluffy scoop turns out to be. They pressured you to see if he was bad people. He is to Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, etc. He didn’t attack, and they attacked him, and then the evil bourgeois pressured the society of developed socialism with the most advanced economic model in the world. But this model burst like a soap bubble because people forgot how to work hard with it. And why was it necessary to dig in if all the engineers received the same?

                        Quote: Saburov
                        It's like when five people kick you, and you manage to fight back, plant cucumbers and defend your doctorate.

                        Precisely the opposite. The scoop kicked almost all the neighbors, he bought cucumbers from the same neighbors since there was nothing to feed their Holodrans (they forgot the food program?), And it wasn’t so simple about theses.
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                        Oh ... yes, you’re my friend’s sick ... Rusofobius Anticommunistis ... you see, you worked too hard in the scoop ... in general, chatter. Unlike you, I was at the production sites of the military-industrial complex of half Europe, all of Asia, Africa, and even at the Chrysler and General Motors defense industries, although this will not tell you anything ... in general, spit saliva ... I also worked and saw how they work people starting from the end of 70x, so I won’t explain to you what happened to food in the USSR, causes and effects, who attacked anyone and everything, I don’t want to fall under your saliva, and I’m tired of writing.
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                        and tired of writing.

                        Of course I'm tired. Thinking and working is always harder than blaming others for their wretchedness.
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          And where did you see that the Germans would work hard in the last 30-40 years? I worked for 10 years in the German company Siemens, and so there nothing of the kind is observed and close. Working day 7 hours. Coffee break is the law. Überstunde (processing) - pay at a double rate. Without the consent of the Gewerkschaft (unions) and Betriebsrat, no one will be fired. Perhaps now in Moscow and in Russia as a whole they inject 5 times more than the Germans. Therefore, we live not so badly. And German goods are delivered every year in quality. BMW pours on the 5th year of operation as well as the Soviet Lada 1970 onwards German assembly Bosch dishwasher. I bought recently, stopped working on the 3rd day. Warranty service in Moscow is awesome, it seems that all employees are "exhausted with narzan", it is better to deal with Russian services. Therefore, Germany still lives normally only due to the neocolonial policy towards the countries of CEE and BE. They take targeted loans there at crazy interest rates and are forced to buy German goods, because their production liquidated at the request of the EU.
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            And where did you see that the Germans would work hard in the last 30-40 years?

            In Germany, where I lived and studied. They are not injected for 12 hours, but they work out their money honestly and the result is on the face. They live with dignity not at the expense of hydrocarbons of other nations, but exclusively through their labor.
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      And you compare with the bourgeois, with rotting Europe, for example, well, there or what Japan. They didn’t shoot at idle there ...

      Yeltsin didn’t shoot at the Supreme Soviet either, but it didn’t get any better, and he ensured 20 years of devastation in the name of the Democracy.
  • Andrey Skokovsky 23 November 2014 16: 39 New
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    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Denis
    Those famous guns from the cruiser Aurora,

    The most powerful in the history of mankind, one blank shot and 70 years of devastation on the 1 / 6 planet ...
    Good luck repairing Aurora. hi

    What is the West and those like you from our devastation of hatred so shaking it?
    probably robust we "collapsed" can’t forget ???
    nothing, we recall that Russia must be loved, not seen ...
  • Sailor Zheleznyak 23 November 2014 18: 03 New
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    And where does such information about "devastation" come from?
  • Protos 24 November 2014 00: 04 New
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    And at what rate do 30 silver coins pay today? laughing
  • RUSS 23 November 2014 10: 22 New
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    Honor and Glory to the defenders of the Winter Palace, cadets and female soldiers from the Women's battalion!
  • mamont5 23 November 2014 11: 11 New
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    Preparing for 2017 so that they don’t forget. Are the Aurora guns also modernizing?


    It’s easier to install new ones. All the same, the tools of Aurora have changed several times.
  • askort154 23 November 2014 07: 50 New
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    In the coal holds they will set up a “Mace”, one for each Russophobic country in the Baltic.
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    Macedonian 23 November 2014 07: 55 New
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    If you want a floating tavern, then let there be a sailing ship without any past and military glory, like a restaurant ship in Veliky Novgorod.

    Aurora is only as a historical monument-museum, as one of the symbol of the valor of Russian weapons of the past. The beautiful name Aurora, I thought of calling my daughter by that name, but it does not combine with the middle name (

    By the way, the repair time was correctly calculated - the end of the season of tourists and the beginning of freezing)
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      Novgorod is a ship-restaurant

      Yes, what is the SHIP, a barge with a wooden superstructure.
  • Madlinx 23 November 2014 07: 55 New
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    The old man is patched up and sent to the Black Sea, to drown the Khokhlyatsk flotilla. I think his power is enough for these purposes laughing
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    1. Barboskin 23 November 2014 18: 22 New
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      Chew the joyful snot of liberal tenderness from February 17th, when British agents overthrew the tsar and plunged Russia into chaos.
  • sub307 23 November 2014 08: 26 New
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    Oh, dock Veleshchinsky! Once upon a time (the submarine means) they were docked in it ... and in the evenings they visited the “Wave” (those who are involved, those in the courses).
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    Well done! You need to know your history, protect and respect! Despite the ambiguity of the events in the 17 year of the last century. The campaigns alone were worth what the participation of the Aurora in the Battle of Tsushima was. Battle breakthroughs, courageous, heroic team. Battle Ship!
  • code54 23 November 2014 08: 51 New
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    The beauty! In the dock, when the nose is fully visible, and in general the whole Aurora, it looks even bigger and cooler !!!
    1. Baikal 23 November 2014 09: 56 New
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      I agree, a very beautiful ship. However, like his ancestor wink

  • avvg 23 November 2014 09: 22 New
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    Patriotic education begins with the study of history. AURORA is a living story.
    1. RUSS 23 November 2014 10: 31 New
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      Patriotic education begins with the study of history. AURORA is a living story.


      Aurora should be in history not only as one of the symbols of the revolution, but we must remember that Aurora is a participant in the Tsushima battle and the First World War!
  • parafoiler 23 November 2014 09: 38 New
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    No matter what they say, AURORA is one of the symbols of Russia.
  • sv68 23 November 2014 10: 00 New
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    in the Niva, at the place where Aurora stood, you need to fix the plate with the inscription “ship-remake, everything historical and truly valuable was destroyed during the last repairs”. You don’t need to engage in self-deception, from that cruiser except for talbycheks with a name and a pair of chimneys left.
    1. Ivan_Anatolich 23 November 2014 15: 16 New
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      Actually, our river is called the Neva. You would first repeat the Russian language course, and then state any suggestions.
  • Denis 23 November 2014 10: 42 New
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    To Christ's day? I was going to Peter to go, I have to postpone it. The Hermitage is certainly good, only without the Aurora the tour will be inferior.

    Do not worry, ships will enter the Neva on the day of the Navy and will probably be launched on some
    Yes, and much more interesting
    Military History Museum of Artillery, Engineering and Signal Corps
    http://www.artillery-museum.ru/
  • Afinogen 23 November 2014 10: 44 New
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    Cruiser Aurora


    The author of the words is Matusovsky M., the composer is Shainsky V.



    Napping the silent northern city
    Low sky overhead
    What do you dream about cruiser Aurora
    At the hour when morning rises over the Neva
    What do you dream about cruiser Aurora
    At the hour when morning rises over the Neva
    Maybe you again in the clouds shaggy
    Guns see far
    Or as before in black pea jackets
    Your patrols menacingly walk
    Or as before in black pea jackets
    Your patrols menacingly walk
    Waves gray storms gray
    Such a share in ships
    Their fates are also somewhat similar.
    Something like the fate of people
    Their fates are also somewhat similar.
    Something like the fate of people
    Open spaces breathe the salty wind
    Lightnings baptize thunderstorm
    What do you dream about cruiser Aurora
    At the hour when morning rises over the Neva
    What do you dream about cruiser Aurora
    At the hour when morning rises over the Neva
    What do you dream about cruiser Aurora
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    the head gun on the Aurora should be restored for firing a single charge, and once a year at the graduation ceremony of the Nakhimov’s Aurora is obliged to half the voice)) approve this fact of becoming young))))))
    at Petropavlovka at noon the gun every day tells a moment in time, I believe that the cruiser is obliged to live life to the full and be on the balance of the Navy with all the attributes and other moments of training for cadets and the life of the city by itself !!!!)))
  • voyaka uh 23 November 2014 11: 23 New
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    The Americans made a beautiful ship - Aurora has aesthetics ...
    Pretty useless for naval battles,
    but impressive for patrolling and threatening the shores.
    1. Denis 23 November 2014 13: 59 New
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      The Americans made a beautiful ship - Aurora has aesthetics ...

      And the lights of shit democracy here from which side?
      The warship Aurora is a cruiser of the 1 rank (of the same type: Diana) of the Baltic Fleet, known for its role in the October Revolution of the 1917 year. Laid down in the 1897 year in St. Petersburg at the New Admiralty shipyard. Named in honor of the sailing frigate "Aurora", famous for the defense of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.
      Maybe the Varangian, whom she played in the movie of the same name?
      It was built in Philadelphia
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        You're right. I mixed up with the Varangian.
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      Aurora was built in St. Petersburg.
  • Sergey S. 23 November 2014 11: 24 New
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    Quote: bronik
    Preparing for 2017 so that they don’t forget. Are the Aurora guns also modernizing?

    Quote: bronik
    Preparing for 2017 so that they don’t forget. Are the Aurora guns also modernizing?

    Quote: bronik
    Preparing for 2017 so that they don’t forget. Are the Aurora guns also modernizing?

    What didn’t they forget? How did a gang of German spies and international crooks hit the back of a warring country? so they are now in power, the former communists and their descendants, the yoke of the Jewish continues ....

    So the problem got out ...
    We always rejoice when our historical values ​​take on a dignified appearance and universal respect.
    Repair "Aurora" is also perceived. as one of these events.
    But ... it is known that the ship’s hull in the last restoration repair Zhdanovtsy made so that 50 years would be enough. By the way. pay attention - the underwater part of the body only needs to be cleaned, painted, but not restored.

    So why so much money has been allocated and an information bomb inflated?
    The answer is simple.
    There was a ship of the Revolution, but it will become a participant in the Battle of Tsushima .... You will see, in the brochures and for foreign tourists they will advertise the shame of Russian history. For besides the Revolution and the Soviet period, the rest of the Aurora is a witness to the shame or simply Russia's weakness. Actually, even in its characteristics. built at the Franco-Russian plant (now the Admiralty Shipyards), the Aurora had the same size as the cruisers of the Russian fleet but of foreign construction had a lower speed by about 3 knots (!) and fewer main guns (6 inches - 8 instead of 12).

    Emotionally agree with bronik, I would very much like to see the Aurora in Kiev, and in 2017 to remind the whole world on board this ship of historical progress, the national dignity of various nations and social justice.

    But replicas such as dyremar 66 rusare disturbing. Here they are - children of Maidan, personal greed and school ignorance.
    But in fact - “Aurora” with its signal shot prevented the country from sliding into a destructive state similar to today's Ukraine. That's Poroshenko and the Maydan hate Lenin and the Communists ...
    Just as Novorossia today cannot help but defend itself in the Civil War, so in 1918 Soviet Russia could not help but defend itself against the punitive actions of various atamans, the "saviors" of tsarist Russia and foreign interventionists.
    1. sharp-lad 23 November 2014 14: 27 New
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      Tsushima is not a shame !!! Even the Japanese recognized the heroism of Russian sailors in those naval battles! And, the Japanese, they know a lot about selfless service!
  • Was mammoth 23 November 2014 12: 20 New
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    At one time there was a joke in Leningrad:
    - Why is everything in St. Petersburg?
    - Because the Aurora is worth it. They can shoot again.
    I look with alarm at the future of the symbol of the Great October Socialist Revolution. There are many reasons for not returning the Aurora to its place. It really hurts the "restorers" -capitalists want to rewrite history. Recent "holidays" are an example. Even the President noted with his statement that the Bolsheviks deceived the people. He surely knows what the USSR has achieved and why.
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    -Yo Jewish continues ....

    Stalin then made a shortcut for them, but again, in 91 they got out, like tenacious cockroaches.
  • NDR-791 23 November 2014 12: 57 New
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    There was a ship of the Revolution, and will become a member of the Tsushima battle ...
    Isn’t that so? In fact, 300 holes are not khukhs or even mukhras. And the money that has been allocated to the enterprise, so enlighten me stern to stern in a dry dock, it seems Krasin is standing, so he is being restored for that money. Which is not bad at all. But the ship is beautiful.
  • Lyton 23 November 2014 14: 50 New
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    Yes, of course, let’s spend a lot of money on the restoration of the revolutionary trough, from which there is not much that is present in its present form, greetings to the Germans, well prepared and sponsored by Ilyich, arranged a coup in Russia destroying it from the inside, knocked out the color of the nation, brought the gopot and collective farmers to power who were engaged in the destruction of the Russian people.
    1. sky diver 23 November 2014 17: 37 New
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      This is actually a first rank cruiser, times. A symbol of fortitude and courage of Russian sailors, two. Learn the story sir, three.
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        Teach your wife how to cook cabbage soup, my dear.
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      brought to power gopot and collective farmers

      They won the Great Patriotic War ... The first to go into space ... Yes, and much more. Not bad for gopoty and collective farmers, do not find ???
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        Ha ha, and without the Bolsheviks we certainly would not have flown into space and won’t have won the war, read Solzhenitsyn about our concentration camps, Korolev also went through this.
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          read Solzhenitsyn

          Opa-na. And I thought that there were no such naive people.
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            Gopnik? Her.
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              Gopnik? Her.

              Nope. But when I was worried, the surname thought the derivative of the word "sun" and looked closely, from the word "lie" belay
  • kapitan281271 23 November 2014 16: 35 New
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    ProfFesor, it’s something like this to me. You’re very sympathetic, but I’m starting to worry about it. CASES When individuals do not poison themselves with their own poison ******* It’s like me. flattering
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    An interesting fate with the cruiser. Diana and Pallas of the same type, who had incomparably greater military merits in the Russo-Japanese War, are almost forgotten, and Aurora, who, together with the cruising detachment of Enquist, escaped from the battlefield at Tsushima, went down in history thanks to a single blank shot. the right place at the right time.
    PS, the ship today looks great, for the Russian fleet it would be a mega-PR if it were returned to service, albeit with a training ship.
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    What the *** xren revolution in February in Russia did also that now in Ukraine now it remains to wait there for October
    P.S. Well, now tell me how the great super-progressive Bolsheviks-MU *** dachas pushed the backward empire forward and enlightened it from head to toe!
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    I repeat one more time ... to Petersburg officials and Petersburgers:
    it would be nice to remove the advertising signs immediately after Aurora,
    I understand that creative managers are creative, but the interests of the state should be higher than the dough
    I want that after the repair it showed off against the background of the inscription Russia, or St. Petersburg
    One of the country's symbols SHOULD NOT show off against the background of the name of a commercial foreign company

    Petersburg officials allowed you to make porn films on Aurora, and you worry about some kind of advertising.
  • Sergey S. 23 November 2014 18: 03 New
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    Tsushima is not a shame !!! Even the Japanese recognized the heroism of Russian sailors in those naval battles! And, the Japanese, they know a lot about selfless service!

    And the death of the entire Russian fleet in the battle with the "weak", as someone thought, the enemy, is it not a shame?
    But the fact that Tsushima was one of three outstanding naval battles due to our "achievements" in combat training and due to the "highest" technical policy is not a shame?
    And the surrender of 5 ships, with the Charter not canceled by Moscow and the order to break through to Vladivostok, is it understandable that this is not a shame?
    Then why did the successful court sentence Nebogatov to death, and the emperor, apparently realizing that he should be nearby, replaced him with imprisonment in the fortress?
    Those who perished are clear in conscience.
    But if the ship crews knew how to maneuver in order, if the admirals knew how to act in units according to a single plan, if the teams could withstand the given speed ... then there would be no such shame.

    For example.
    The First Pacific was by all accounts weaker than the Second Squadron. But thanks to at least some experience gained by the blood of sailors and the loss of some small ships, not a single battleship was drowned by the Japanese in a naval battle.

    If we admit the idea that Tsushima is not a shame for us, then just a little bit and what - the Vlasovites are not traitors?
  • tundra 23 November 2014 18: 53 New
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    remake ship

    Unfortunately, you are right, the current Aurora is almost a full-size model. And from the point of view of the history of carabling, it is not valuable, since almost all the inconveniences of the carabule were then lost in the 80s, about which much was written then. Well, from a historical point of view, this is of course a monument to an entire era.
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      And who put this minus? Read the press of the 80s, up to 80 percent was then at the dachas of the regional committees. Aurora is a historical monument but not technical, what is left of the real Aurora? Yes, to conduct excursions and talk about the revolution, yes, but the students of the karabels builders, in terms of acquaintance, elective classes on the history of the karabels builder have nothing to do there. In this regard, it is more interesting, the icebreaker Ermak is better preserved.
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    Do not forget that 1 Pacific squadron operated from its base in Port Arthur, 2 Pacific squadron did not have such a base, this is one of the main reasons for the Tsushima tragedy. Tsushima should not be a shame for us. Tsushima should be a lesson. And I think that this is not respect to our fought and fallen ancestors, consider this war a disgrace. This is our story, we need to accept it as it is. And thanks to our ancestors for saving this beautiful cruiser for us!
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    beautiful ship
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    The most powerful in the history of mankind, one blank shot and 70 years of devastation on the 1 / 6 planet ...

    Good luck repairing Aurora.

    The joke was killed. The cruiser, Professor, is not only famous for this shot. The devastation began already later in the 90s, and for those 70 years the country made a space breakthrough, from essentially a feudal state to a superpower, the first to go into space, which ensured parity from the USA to nuclear weapons and much more that democratic Russia never dreamed of. Yes, all this was often accompanied by strong social upheavals, but there were also many things that should not be forgotten and destroyed.
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    This is what you call the democratic Russia of the former Komsyuk oligarchs, or maybe the secretary of the regional committee of ebn, or members of the Communist Party Kasyanov, Kasparov, and the rest of the Camarilla. And social. shaking the civil war, and probably this is the Brest-Lithuanian world, or the complete destruction of the peasants, rolling my ancestors of the Cossacks into concrete wow shock this historical catastrophe is comparable if small than the collapse of the USSR and when today liberals star that I have nothing to be proud of the country, and his people, who had to create their Empire from scratch and created it, but the neo-Bolshevichs again fussed and destroyed it and again created it again. When they have all taken a break, all this Bolshevik and non-Bolshevik bastard. I hope I still hope that GDP can become Joseph II.
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      When they have all taken a break, all this Bolshevik and non-Bolshevik bastard. I hope I still hope that GDP can become Joseph II.

      As for modern Democrats, they hit the mark. I respect GDP because I do not relate to them. For the rest, you have a split personality. On the one hand, you call the Bolsheviks scum, on the other, dream of the second coming of Joseph Vissarionovich, how is it? Cossacks, by the way, were not angels either, ataman Semenov and his henchmen, for example, in Siberia and Transbaikalia, organized genocide among peasants (women poured water to death in the cold than an SS man). The peasants who were guilty were only that they simply wanted to live peacefully and not get into the slaughter of the civil war. It was precisely under Joseph Vissarionovich that the chieftain Semenov was caught in Manchuria, convicted and hanged.
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        Gaidar still excelled. That's where the recent blood comes from.
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          Not there. To the west.
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    Semyonov dot (by the way, the white movement was very sympathetic to his execution). But I have no split personality; there is knowledge. All of Stalin’s activities after he came to power was aimed at destroying all this Lenin’s bastard now I don’t remember exactly, but he was almost the only one in the Bolshevik government (to put it mildly) who belonged to Russian civilization (May the professor forgive me), and that From themselves represented these knew. Almost by the end of the thirties, all this trash that drowned Russia in the blood was destroyed. And it was not just a struggle for power; it was a question of the existence of Russian civilization. And well, let’s not deceive himself the power of him was absolute, and here comes JOSIV I. And what is surprising is it by accident or there is no evidence that during the Red Terror he stained himself like Bukharin Rykov Trotsky Sverdlov Tukhachevsky and so forth. And he became an enemy for the so-called West at the same time because he closed the feeder to them as a GDP a century later, all of Russia was given these freaks to predatory concessions and reached a ratio of 92/8, nothing reminds the Sakhalin shelf for example.
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      It would be possible to put two pluses.
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      Semyonov dot (by the way, the white movement was very sympathetic to his execution).

      It may be white with understanding (they were not turned into ice statues), but the Siberian peasantry took it a little differently. The Semenov star rolled when the Japanese retreated. Front keep not exterminating the peasants. Then the former peasants and hunters, and at that time the partisans began to beat him in the tail and mane. Semenov was essentially a Japanese servant (he later lived with them as a cricket behind a stove in Manchuria, before meeting with the Red Army). Not all White Guards were complete sadists, Kappel is an example of a true Russian officer. But in general, among the people, the hatred of the gold miners was so strong that Stalin returned the epaulettes only in 1943.
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    Almost by the end of the thirties, all this trash that drowned Russia in the blood was destroyed.

    Certain facts to something like this are organically thrown into our society all the time.
    But I would shift the focus.
    In the Stalinist meat grinder, those who first made the Brest Peace and gave the Germans territories and trophies, and then contributed to its violation, contributed to the German occupation of the largest territories almost to the Caucasus.

    But Stalin never really fought against Lenin. Mostly they were like-minded people.
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    70 years of devastation on 1/6 of the planet ...

    Professor tells his next "fantasies" smile
    Of course, I understand that his country has the most important “invention”, this is “ingenious design” of the most important global brand - EPILATOR.
    But still it’s not worth it to “invent”.
    The USSR was at least the second most powerful power in the world and its achievements in all areas are simply colossal.
    Here are just a few of them.
    Achievements of the USSR
    http://su90.ru/sugr.pdf
    Achievements of the USSR by five-year period
    http://zanuda2.livejournal.com/887613.html
    USSR in numbers
    http://istmat.info/node/21343
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    He returned epaulettes for the sake of historical justice and, according to the testimonies of many, including both of my grandfathers (one was introduced to the hero twice but did not receive), this was accepted morally and politically with great enthusiasm, and the Cossack corps were disbanded only after his death and they covered themselves as a whole and the whole people of unfading glory.