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US helped ukroarmii radar

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Pentagon spokesman Stephen Warren said the United States had transferred three radars to Ukraine, which are effective in detecting mortar calculations. This transfer took place in the framework of a special program to support the army of Ukraine, which is implemented by the US military. Pentagon representative quoted RIA News:

With the receipt of these systems, the Ukrainian armed forces will receive the necessary development.


It is reported that the Pentagon’s support program for the Ukrainian army is estimated at 118 million dollars. Under this program, 20 radar systems will be sent to Kiev, which can be used both in a static and in a dynamic state.

On the eve, Washington has once again declared that it will support the Ukrainian army with exceptionally non-lethal weapons, which also include antimino radars.

Finally, the deputies sent to the USA (Birch, Teteruk, Semenchenko) met with their aged idol, John McCain. On this occasion, Semenchenko, clearly pleased with the appearance of a photograph of old Joe, writes on his Facebook page:
The main thing is that now there is a war for the independence of Ukraine. The same as in the 18 century was in the United States. And it binds us (...) The ice is broken. And in this there is an enormous merit of all the friends of Ukraine in the USA, those who share the idea of ​​a “warrior-citizen”, feels that we are “of one blood”, and made every effort for Ukraine to cease to be “distant Mars” for the USA, and acquired recognizable and understandable human features.


US helped ukroarmii radar


Well, the "friends of Ukraine" proved to be in the United States. American "friends of Libya" - were there, and where is Libya now? “Friends of Syria” from the USA were also, and what is Syria now? Then came the new turn - "friends of Ukraine." Now for the United States, Ukraine will definitely acquire “recognizable features” - a mirror image of the Libyan and Syrian scenarios thanks to the “friends of Ukraine” in the United States and around the world will already know ...
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  1. Vadim237
    Vadim237 22 November 2014 10: 20
    +1
    These radars will not save them from explosions.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 22 November 2014 10: 21
      +18
      Today, radars, and tomorrow guns, tanks, helicopters.
      1. Denis
        Denis 22 November 2014 10: 33
        +20
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Today, radars, and tomorrow guns, tanks, helicopters.
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      2. Civil
        Civil 22 November 2014 10: 35
        +13
        Quote: Giant thought
        Today, radars, and tomorrow guns, tanks, helicopters.

        THIS IS INEVITABLE, WITH UKRAINE NEEDS TO FINISH ASAP !!!
        1. figwam
          figwam 22 November 2014 10: 58
          +7
          The day is not far off when RUSSIA will be forced to punish all this infernal evil, for their evil deeds.
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 November 2014 11: 04
        0
        It will put guns on small arms, and tanks and helicopters are too expensive a treat, except for rubbish.
      4. UralMan
        UralMan 22 November 2014 11: 15
        +18
        You are absolutely right!

        HERE FROM WHAT BEGAN BEFORE
        this is part of the article
        http://masterok.livejournal.com/954689.html
        Entering the world stage after participating in the First World War, the United States paid great attention to the situation in Europe and especially the events in Germany. Back in 1921–1922 The captain Truman Smith, the assistant to the American military attache in Berlin, drew attention to the emotional and harsh speeches in Munich of the still little-known politician Adolf Hitler, who since 1921 led the German National Socialist Workers Party (NSDAP). In 1922, an American diplomat met him.

        From 1923 to 1926 Hitler and his party were financed through Swiss and Swedish banks. Since 1926, the Nazis began financing directly through banks and industrial concerns in Germany. In the fall of 1930, the head of the Reichsbank, Yalmar Schacht, visited the United States, who directly negotiated with representatives of American business. In private negotiations, he told them about the scenarios of A. Hitler coming to power in Germany and his concept of developing the country, the strategy to fight Bolshevism ... Soon, the attache of the American embassy in Berlin D. Gordon told the US Secretary of State G. Stimson in a diplomatic dispatch: "... Hitler received significant financial support from certain circles of industrialists. Just today, a rumor came to me from a source usually well informed that the various American financial circles represented here are very active in the same direction. ”

        So what is the United States
        These are gangs of robbers who migrated from Europe and formed a state of terror and violence around the world.
      5. 222222
        222222 22 November 2014 11: 23
        +1
        ..about radars ..
        http://warsonline.info/ukraine/ssha-privezli-na-ukrainu-legkie-antiminometnie-ra

        dari-an-tpq.html
        1. bo bo
          bo bo 22 November 2014 16: 39
          +4
          this is not a panacea. it’s possible, for example, a couple of flashing mortars on trucks. I’ve left, the radar itself is banging, and it’s better to grab or REB to check them. Yes, and Russia is now simply obliged to adjust its analogue to the militia.
      6. Denis fj
        Denis fj 22 November 2014 13: 20
        +3
        Quote: Giant thought
        Today, radars, and tomorrow guns, tanks, helicopters.


        Still passed diapers. But this is a secret.
      7. Alekseev
        Alekseev 22 November 2014 14: 53
        +4
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Today radars, and tomorrow

        Yes, radars ...
        The Kenyan Gibbon and Biden do not understand his Slavic soul: Well, fig a goat, button accordion, she will drink it to hell! yes
      8. bo bo
        bo bo 22 November 2014 16: 31
        +4
        if helicopters give then I’ll definitely go there to fight. to bang Amer’s copter is the dream of my whole life.
        1. TOR2
          TOR2 22 November 2014 23: 01
          +1
          Quote: bo bo
          if helicopters give then I’ll definitely go there to fight. to bang Amerov’s copter is the dream of my life

          the main thing that would be what. And when bang, then rip off the "skin" from it.
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 22 November 2014 10: 29
      +17
      If these "monkeys" are taught to use intellectual weapons, then militants will have to shit. It's time for them to go on the offensive, and not wait for the competition between Russian ingenuity and Western pragmatism.

      Tell the king not to clean the guns with a brick
      1. SHAKESPEARE
        SHAKESPEARE 22 November 2014 10: 35
        +10
        Russia needs to put jammers on these radars.
        1. sergey32
          sergey32 22 November 2014 10: 44
          +22
          Yesterday I was unpleasantly surprised by how our Special Correspondent tried to convince the NATO member on TC Russia that we were not supplying arms to the militias. Why be ashamed? We are the country the winner of fascism, we all [center] [/ center] Nazi Europe at one time put cancer. And our holy duty is to help the brothers than we can defeat the descendants of the remnants and again destroy this abomination. So declare to the UN.
          1. Simple
            Simple 22 November 2014 11: 15
            +9
            Quote: sergey32
            Yesterday I was unpleasantly surprised by how our Special Correspondent tried to convince the NATO member on TC Russia





            I also watched this program yesterday.

            Why was Robert Pshel (director of the NATO information bureau in Moscow) invited to the program?

            To warm up emotions?
            Yes, it turns back at the sight of a man of Slavic appearance. No, he is authorized to speak only within the limits of the dual position held by him.
            So to hear something constructive from him (on the topic of transmission) is the height of naivety.

            And why should he enjoy watching a scuffle between the Russians?
          2. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 22 November 2014 11: 37
            +14
            But Russia does not supply ... It supplies South Ossetia, which recognized New Russia ....... an independent country ... We have nothing to do with it!
        2. Eggor
          Eggor 22 November 2014 11: 08
          +6
          Quote: SHEKSPIR
          Russia needs to put jammers on these radars.

          Jammers are not jammers, but there are such news from the fields:

          Interpreter reported that two journalists saw new military equipment in Eastern Ukraine: Menahem Kahana photographed the 1RL232 Leopard ground artillery station in Torez, east of Donetsk, and Dutch independent journalist Stefan Huijboom traveling along the road 1RL232 and 1RL239 "Lynx", accompanied by a car resembling a mobile command post, and other equipment.
          (...)
          Although Ukraine allegedly has several 1RL232, we could not find any data on the use by the Ukrainian military of 1RL239. The LostArmour website, which collects information about Ukrainian military equipment that was destroyed or captured, believes that these radar stations are not related to the Ukrainian army. At the time of publication, the Ukrainian armed forces did not respond to our request for comment. Inosmi.ru

          Of course, all this is Western propaganda, which has nothing in common with real life.
          Trophies ...
          1. bo bo
            bo bo 22 November 2014 17: 14
            +4
            Yes. there is such a thing.
        3. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 22 November 2014 12: 54
          +4
          Quote: SHEKSPIR
          Russia needs to put jammers on these radars.


          Iskanders or what? laughing good
          1. Gecko
            Gecko 22 November 2014 15: 01
            +5
            Iskander is not a jammer, but a suppressor ... wink
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 22 November 2014 17: 14
              +4
              Quote: gecko
              Iskander is not a jammer, but a suppressor ... wink

              ... and a washcloth, and a chisel, and a leveling machine ... In general, both the Shvets, and the reaper, and the igrets on the pipe.
      2. gispanec
        gispanec 22 November 2014 11: 03
        +15
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        If these "monkeys" are taught

        it's too late to learn ...
      3. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 22 November 2014 12: 53
        +2
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        rather than wait for a competition between Russian ingenuity and Western pragmatism.


        Russian ingenuity - she will not bite the rooster yet. So far, there is an appearance of innocence. The yusers will get their "non-lethal" ones, such a "surprise" will arrive that they will think for a long time: -And why do we need these radars ??? bully
    3. Civil
      Civil 22 November 2014 10: 34
      +3
      If so ... then all US enemies should be helped immediately!
    4. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 22 November 2014 10: 38
      +20
      So I look at the photo like that and think where this Semenchenko was a year ago? At the junk he pushed and warmed himself up with a coffee in a plastic cup, making Natasha’s eyes in the tent on the contrary? Who is in the courses? And now the Verkhovna Rada deputy, a news insider, is standing next to McCain. happiness full pants ... That's what troubles mean ... der ... rises up.
    5. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 22 November 2014 11: 12
      +8
      A dangerous thing is in skilled hands, if dill is not exchanged for lard or sold, then there will be problems, the answer will then arrive in 2-3 minutes and this time will not be enough to change position.
    6. Sergei-1982
      Sergei-1982 22 November 2014 11: 19
      +3
      I think soon the militia will have these radars.
    7. Pervusha Isaev
      Pervusha Isaev 22 November 2014 11: 56
      0
      Banderland radars are very necessary, they need to fight off the oncoming Novorossiysk aviation ...
    8. Denis fj
      Denis fj 22 November 2014 13: 19
      +1
      Soon, these same radars will be on the Internet for sale.
    9. Denis fj
      Denis fj 22 November 2014 13: 25
      +4
      These are messages from the category of info war, two or three minutes you need to calculate the mortar to shoot and change position, if the mortar is installed on the car then even less time is needed, so the message about the radars is to raise the spirit of dill!))
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 22 November 2014 13: 36
        +13


        Five seconds to determine the coordinates of the firing position.
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 22 November 2014 14: 58
          +4
          In Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, they did not really help the amers!
          There are no unsolvable problems - there are answers that do not suit us!
          The installation of mortars on a moving platform, after a few volleys, a quick change of position will prevent radar notching. And reconnaissance + suppression of radar positions will help to avoid return fire. There will be 20 radars, I wonder how long their dill will last?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 November 2014 19: 03
            +3
            Who told you they did not help?
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 22 November 2014 17: 17
          0
          Why are they dill?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 22 November 2014 19: 07
            +3
            To determine the coordinates of the firing mortars, art. guns and MLRS. In addition, this radar can detect UAVs.
        3. The fat man
          The fat man 22 November 2014 18: 52
          +1
          Good video good
    10. Serge Mikhas
      Serge Mikhas 22 November 2014 14: 46
      +9
      In fact, this is a big complication in the activities of the glorious artillery of New Russia and will certainly multiply the losses of the republican army. And nichre ... and from these and the following pseudo-peace talks it will not work, the next step will be the supply of missiles guiding this system ... and they will reach the neutron bomb .Rub this knot has long been needed.
      1. boni592807
        boni592807 22 November 2014 20: 32
        +7
        yes Thanks for the info!

        People, stop waving their hats and pushing slogans !? Songs about hat-making in 1941 cost dearly.

        Less talk negative , and give competent proposals for those who are in New Russia.
        Technicians and with "experience of communication" with similar radars, a competent way to minimize the dirty tricks from them. Like in Serbia. WE WAIT!!! good
        Quote:
        Against high-precision Western weapons, the Serbs used hitherto
        unknown countermeasure proposed by the Internet alone
        Russian scientists. Finding out that the radar seeker
        NATO missiles respond to radiation ranging from a thousand to two thousand
        megahertz, Russian Kulibin told the Yugoslavs the following - this spectrum of waves
        used in microwaves, and a rocket that doesn't know how
        independently think flying piece of iron, will accept the included kitchen unit
        for the target and safely hit him.
        Three days after a message over the Internet, all of Serbia dragged on
        wasteland microwave ovens with tens of meters of wire stretching behind them
        and connected the power.
        The result exceeded all expectations.
        Hail AGM-45A "Shrike", AGM-78 "Standard" ARM and
        AGM-88A "Harm". Even the super promising ones who can spot false targets
        AGM-136 "Takit Rainbow" did not escape the common fate and selflessly beat on
        unfortunate products of the firms "Mulinex" and "Samsung".
        Overspending of anti-radar missiles in NATO reached fantastic
        sizes. And the number of "radars" not only did not decrease, but also increased
        day by day. The pilots fell into a quiet panic. On-board computers on approach
        to any Serbian city, radio emission from hundreds of points was recorded. AND
        it was not known which of them was the anti-aircraft complex radar ...
        hi
    11. bif
      bif 22 November 2014 14: 59
      +1
      Quote: Vadim237
      These radars will not save them from explosions

      Recently, European drones stopped flying due to interference, and now these radars will refuse to work, or a good target for long-range artillery and front-line reconnaissance - there is room for exercise.
      Knowing ukrotraditsii, it will be more likely like this: "UkrVoentorg. New receipts and renewal of the" DillMilitari "collection. Hurry to buy. Discounts for regular customers and militias .."
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    13. siberalt
      siberalt 22 November 2014 15: 35
      0
      Fuck ass bayan? laughing What will they "please", and not trained yet?
    14. vodolaz
      vodolaz 23 November 2014 01: 32
      -1
      Soon they will be lost: half will be blown up, and the second will be with the militias. And the dill army would not hurt to teach at least something at all, except for shooting at residential buildings.
  2. Olegmog
    Olegmog 22 November 2014 10: 23
    +6
    Interestingly, but they can be hammered by interference?
  3. boozer
    boozer 22 November 2014 10: 24
    +8
    About soon "Voentorg" will work! Radars will be useful to the armed forces of Novorossiya! We are waiting for deliveries!
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 22 November 2014 10: 26
      +8
      Capture as trophies, to view all of their subsides, to know how to deal with them.
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 22 November 2014 11: 32
        +9
        [] Quote from Penelope
        Capture as trophies, to view all of their subsides, to know how to deal with them.

        Fighting is very simple, if you have something. You take a bearing, then cover. The most "tasty", if there are missiles aiming at the radar beam, then their chances of surviving are close to zero, even in motion.
      2. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 23 November 2014 02: 07
        0
        To exchange for fat, well, or just to buy kraynyak, I think they will sell them for the first time.
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  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 November 2014 10: 25
    +11
    So this is how it is. Amerovian analogue of "Zoo" was presented. For counter-battery fight. Strong move. It is also necessary for our militias to throw something homing on these radars. Only in this way, otherwise the losses in calculations will increase.
    1. quote
      quote 22 November 2014 10: 34
      +6
      otherwise the losses in the calculations will increase.
      Americans just don't give anything. Most likely these radars are just "kaka". They threw them off as unnecessary and ineffective. And the dill is already in ecstasy, like they won already. One radar!
  5. Sharky
    Sharky 22 November 2014 10: 25
    +6
    feels that we are "of the same blood" ...
    Oh, fool Semenchenko, you will never be the same blood with the light elves! Because you are a consumable in this war! Like a toilet paper, which will be flushed to the toilet after use, and even not with your own hands, so as not to get dirty in shit!
  6. raketnik
    raketnik 22 November 2014 10: 25
    +1
    A PHOTO reminds me of a school-- when in the end we fotted with a physicist woodpecker
  7. shef598
    shef598 22 November 2014 10: 26
    +2
    Why monkeys grenades ???? They need tires)))))
  8. Lone gunman
    Lone gunman 22 November 2014 10: 27
    0
    They deliver radars to dill, not to the militia, did I understand everything correctly? Well, well))) ... Mackain, you're burning ...
  9. FACKtoREAL
    FACKtoREAL 22 November 2014 10: 27
    +5
    This means that God himself ordered Abkhazia and South Ossetia to transfer Novorossia SNAR-10M1 ! request
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 22 November 2014 12: 08
      +2
      Quote: FACKtoREAL
      This means that God himself ordered Abkhazia and South Ossetia to transfer SNAR-10M1 to Novorossia!


      Let's say that they took SNAR-10M1 from the "brave Georgians" ??? !!! request
      Somehow the option is NOT VERY request
  10. YGV-97219
    YGV-97219 22 November 2014 10: 27
    +3
    And there will be a rip-off for the old woman! So it seems they say.
  11. Federal
    Federal 22 November 2014 10: 29
    +6
    It has long been known to everyone that armaments are supplied to scammer, under the guise of a non-lethal character, a pancake was surprised, there have long been fighting mercenaries of NATO countries.
  12. Drew
    Drew 22 November 2014 10: 29
    +1
    however, we must balance
  13. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 22 November 2014 10: 34
    +3
    for every radar, especially pi.n.dossky there is a dill drunk user .. or break or drink .. or get to the militia ..
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 22 November 2014 11: 53
      +2
      Recall Bear-1, which is on the tank ...

      ... give the fool a glass @ wow ... laughing
  14. GRF
    GRF 22 November 2014 10: 38
    +5
    This is not a "help", but a needle ...
    Help is a factory built ...
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 22 November 2014 12: 18
      +5
      Quote: GRF
      This is not a "help", but a needle ...
      Help is a factory built ...


      Do not tell SUCH mattresses !!!! belay
      They’ll blow their head off from such THOUGHT !!!! belay fellow
  15. Aristarch
    Aristarch 22 November 2014 10: 39
    +3
    Such a trend in dill, the morally uglier, the more authoritative, - then the road to joy.
  16. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 22 November 2014 10: 44
    +3
    Apparently broniki and soldering have already sold out. Buyers from the militias demand more solid goods, and here the Americans with their, as always, timely help. There will be something to cut ... laughing
  17. sv68
    sv68 22 November 2014 10: 50
    +1
    the flea market earned the radar probably from the first batch released in the usa as soon as they were invented. the next batch will consist of the first american jet fighters, though without engines. the crews in them will jump on the take-off. wassat
  18. avohmeanin
    avohmeanin 22 November 2014 10: 51
    +1
    Friends like Mowgli you and I are of the same blood)
  19. pahom54
    pahom54 22 November 2014 10: 57
    +5
    "The United States handed over to Ukraine three radars that are effective for detecting mortar crews" ...

    Of course effective! As I saw on the radar that the militia began to shoot - so tick right away to another place! Do not forget to take a radar with you, it’s worth the money ...
  20. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 22 November 2014 10: 59
    +8
    It’s okay ... the USA openly helps the junta (illegitimate) ... But Russia has to hide and make excuses .. It's a shame the hell!
    Milosevic was right ...
    The last appeal of Slobodan Milosevic to Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians:

    “Russians! I now appeal to all Russians; the inhabitants of Ukraine and Belarus in the Balkans are also considered Russians. Look at us and remember - they will do the same to you when you disconnect and give slack. West - a rabid chain dog clings to your throat. Brothers, remember the fate of Yugoslavia! Don't let me do the same to you! ”
  21. tanit
    tanit 22 November 2014 11: 01
    +3
    "Anti-mortar radars" can help in the fight against mortar crews. Only purely theoretically and very indirectly. They are not detecting mortar positions, but flying mines. But the mine-shooting racket costs about 10 dead overseas presidents.
    And so - well, they did. Now the heroes will know that they were not slammed by the atomic bomb, but by an ordinary mine. laughing
    1. saag
      saag 22 November 2014 11: 26
      +5
      Quote: tanit
      Only theoretically

      Very practical, the mines trajectory is calculated and your coordinates are ready
      1. boris-1230
        boris-1230 22 November 2014 15: 12
        0
        It’s time to aim at the received coordinates, and the militia will not wait for gifts
        traffic cop. like a sniper - 2-3 successful shots and it's time to change position
        . Yes, if intelligence works well, then the first blow will be on the radar, and then the fun will begin ... stop
  22. Thompson
    Thompson 22 November 2014 11: 04
    +3
    Quote: Vadim237
    These radars will not save them from explosions.

    Why undermine? EXPROPRIATE! They will not serve us badly either! Therefore, a new combat mission appeared - to calculate, find, take away! No options, then yes, to the scrap!
  23. RusDV
    RusDV 22 November 2014 11: 08
    +2
    Once upon a time, Ukrainian militias were ordinary men with hunting rifles. Armored personnel carriers were sent against them - armored personnel carriers appeared. They sent tanks, tanks appeared. Then the planes. Now the United States has introduced ships into the Black Sea and is supplying anti-mine radars to dill. In vain they are it.
    1. boris-1230
      boris-1230 22 November 2014 15: 14
      +5
      Quote: RusDV
      Once upon a time, Ukrainian militias were ordinary men with hunting rifles.
  24. UralMan
    UralMan 22 November 2014 11: 20
    +3
    But these personalities .... petitioners ...
    A gallows awaits ... soap with a rope is already in the DPR and LPR Odessa Kharkov ... and other cities of Ukraine
    1. boris-1230
      boris-1230 22 November 2014 15: 23
      +2
      About Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa and Zaporozhye, I would not subscribe!
      There are two main ways to find your place in life:
      Or take a firm stand,
      Or take an uncomfortable position.

      They took an uncomfortable posture - but they don't bomb or shoot. And the inconvenience can be tolerated. If others stand up and set them free, then thank God; if no one intervenes, then "my hut is on the edge" ... Although the houses on the edge are set on fire first! angry
  25. Makskleyn
    Makskleyn 22 November 2014 11: 21
    +2
    and we, as always, will send a note of protest and threaten with a finger
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 22 November 2014 11: 27
      0
      Our finger, which threatens, is the deadliest in the world. Others do not.
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  26. Enot_33
    Enot_33 22 November 2014 11: 23
    0
    what kind of radar though? what efficiency? tth? Are there Russian analogues?
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 22 November 2014 11: 26
      -2
      Yes, crap, against Solntsepekov radars tfu.
      1. Enot_33
        Enot_33 22 November 2014 11: 41
        +4
        Quote: cergey51046
        Yes, crap, against Solntsepekov radars tfu.

        just to blurt out? why not at school? oh yes today is a day off.
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  27. cergey51046
    cergey51046 22 November 2014 11: 25
    +4
    The United States itself is a fascist state and supports fascism.
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  29. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 22 November 2014 11: 57
    +1
    Put-put radars, and train staff to use? Specialists, how long does it take to train? Have time before freezing?
    1. 31rus
      31rus 22 November 2014 13: 11
      +2
      Do not think that training will take a lot of time, they also understand it, this is a test ball, they will see how we react, put rap means, they will put rap means and so on
  30. Quantum
    Quantum 22 November 2014 12: 02
    +2
    Why, at the entrance to p-ju, didn’t they ask a question to the XNUMXrd imbicelles: fat, apple?
    In general, everything goes to the fact that the United States will slowly arm the ukrovermaht.
  31. wulf2
    wulf2 22 November 2014 12: 50
    -13
    Russia is a friend of Obkhazia, and where is Obkhazia now?
    1. grandfather
      grandfather 22 November 2014 14: 52
      +5
      The region where it was there and remained (geographically) is only developing (economically).
      What is Ukraine happy?
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 22 November 2014 22: 06
      +1
      Quote: wulf2
      where is the Obkhazia now?

      Thriving. yes I advise you to go there. And feel the difference.
  32. Playerman
    Playerman 22 November 2014 12: 52
    +1
    the kentubas One blood monkey. Found each other lol
  33. SveTok
    SveTok 22 November 2014 12: 56
    +1
    This is the finish line, the ultimate dream of narrow-minded horses.
  34. 31rus
    31rus 22 November 2014 12: 59
    +2
    This is only the beginning, if not to end this war in the near future, then more serious weapons and specialists will appear soon both for training and for direct participation in various forms and structures, it’s possible to replenish aviation, but it’s just announced that it’s canned repaired, the situation is heating up and the world cannot solve this without changing the policies of the main players. As for the radars, this is an effective weapon, they can be raped, but this is not a solution, the war is moving to more modern weapons, the confrontation will only increase, this is beneficial for the USA
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 22 November 2014 13: 27
      0
      Quote: 31rus
      maybe aviation will replenish

      Flight crew - will also replenish? Already funny ..

      Well, they transmitted three stations .. well, they even teach you how to work on them ..

      There, in the winter, people cannot equip in any way, in the Ukrainian army, the Nikolaev potbelly stove factory is riveting at an accelerated pace, and you -

      Quote: 31rus
      war is moving to more modern weapons

      Yeah..
  35. _my opinion
    _my opinion 22 November 2014 13: 33
    +3
    ... the main thing is that now there is a war for the independence of Ukraine ....

    your already mythical independence was finally dispelled when you were appointed an egg-bearer and then poroshenko ... in the years of the USSR, the concept of "puppet government" was used, and so your government and glad and ukroVS and SBU are puppet ..
  36. NDR-791
    NDR-791 22 November 2014 13: 52
    0
    Quote: Olegmog
    Interestingly, but they can be hammered by interference?

    It’s easier to put mortars on the wheels and move after a couple of volleys.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 22 November 2014 14: 11
      +3
      It is not simple. This is a huge preliminary preparation.
    2. Barakuda
      Barakuda 22 November 2014 14: 17
      +5
      Well, so many are on wheels ... And not a couple of salvos, but a couple of dozen ..
      And if there is some kind of short-range radar there - the grave of the radar .. Unlike dill, the DNI and LC are involved in close combat, if necessary, already running.
  37. terrible
    terrible 22 November 2014 14: 01
    +2
    or shoot on the go! and the feathered monkeys can handle such complex equipment or are the operators attached?
  38. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 November 2014 14: 19
    +4

    More abruptly will be propaganda on tame.
  39. Cristall
    Cristall 22 November 2014 14: 22
    -4
    Quote: formidable
    or shoot on the go!

    Well, in a recent video from Novorossiya TV, a Ukrainian tank hit the building on the fly.
    In general, I am sure that the simulator in Kharkov is fully utilized.
    As for the radars - a good thing. Sorry a little. Now more help is needed regarding UAVs.
    But as before, the United States, if it sends it, is only non-commercial. The light elves purposely want to show that, unlike the Russian Federation, they do not send hail (unidentified smile yeah) but only non-lethal help .. and the rest - itself ..
    I'd like to stop writing the wrong wording "'re coming out "in the Events / News section.
    There is a Ukrainian army, there is no reduction "ukroarmiya"
    These are the rules of the Russian language. Or do the rules on the political background of news about Ukraine not work?
    Even on Ukrainian news, I don’t see anyone writing distorted about the Russian army (such as rassitaris, rashkavoisk for example)
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 22 November 2014 14: 45
      +6
      Quote: Cristall
      Well, in a recent video from Novorossiya TV, a Ukrainian tank hit the building on the fly.

      Mehan fell asleep, could not turn? How did it happen with tetrapods?


      Quote: Cristall
      These are the rules of the Russian language.

      ? Is it from the "vUkraine" series?


      Quote: Cristall
      Even on Ukrainian news, I don’t see anyone writing distorted about the Russian army (such as rassitaris, rashkavoisk for example)

      Yes. Freelance journalists are very disciplined people. It was ordered to be called "terrorists" or "Kadyrovtsy", and they do it. If they are ordered to call it "Raskovska," they will call it. Avakov not in vain about the "Ministry of Truth" started a speech. Democratic freedom of speech must be firmly protected from those who think the wrong way.
    2. Azovian
      Azovian 22 November 2014 14: 50
      +8
      There is no need to touch the simulator in Kharkov, it is the best. Fact. And Russia will be inactive, the United States will not deliver. How many "Hercules" with gum. did you come with help? Russia helps just enough to keep the conflict going. We are not talking about the victory of Novorossiya. Oh, don't be too smart !!
    3. Submarine B-41
      Submarine B-41 22 November 2014 19: 27
      +1
      Quote: Cristall

      Even on Ukrainian news, I don’t see anyone writing distorted about the Russian army (such as rassitaris, rashkavoisk for example)

      And you are not watching Ukrainian news, but read Ukrainian sites.
      The phrase "ukroarmiya" is a normal derivative of two words (like the words STEAMER, SOMOLET, etc.). It even fits into the rules of the RUSSIAN language. Moreover, the Russian language is a living language and reacts quite normally to changes in all kinds of "background", including political ones. hi
  40. Barakuda
    Barakuda 22 November 2014 15: 59
    +4
    Quote: Cristall
    Well, in a recent video from Novorossiya TV, a Ukrainian tank hit the building on the fly.

    On the same video at the Donetsk airport, the tank got hit .. smoked and drove off somewhere .. And this is with RPGs .. without any ballistic computers .. Yes, and it’s not difficult to get into the building of the 4th floor .. And from the roof , the rest very quickly draped back .. Even ORT it showed in the news.
  41. Cap.nemo58rus
    Cap.nemo58rus 22 November 2014 17: 13
    +2
    What buoy Neanderthals radar? Or drink, or lose.
  42. Aibolit64
    Aibolit64 22 November 2014 18: 24
    +1
    Some of the radars will break ukrovoyaki and the rest will be lost or drunk.
  43. The fat man
    The fat man 22 November 2014 18: 56
    +1
    Sound system
    but his problem is that besides using skills
    This equipment requires a special culture of exploitation, starting with the quality of the fuel in the generator, as well as conducting routine maintenance on time and being able to calibrate this unit
    Ukrainians will need a few months minimum
  44. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 22 November 2014 20: 08
    +1
    How long is a fool a glass x ...; will not lose so break.
  45. DPN
    DPN 22 November 2014 22: 15
    0
    [quote = Nevsky_ZU] If these "monkeys" are taught to use intellectual weapons, then militants will have to shit. It's time for them to go on the offensive, and not wait for the competition between Russian ingenuity and Western pragmatism.

    Tell the king not to clean the guns with a brick
    [/
    No matter how it is all the same Slavs and not monkeys.
    Russia will not let the militia go on the offensive and it may soon be too late if Russia doesn’t help. The Ukrainians will clean their rear from other minded people, that is, there will be less support for the militias. Of course, the Soviet Army would have been given all this cleaned up, and the Russian is still weak, the power elite is not ready for this and does not want to.
  46. TOR2
    TOR2 22 November 2014 23: 35
    +1
    At the same time, the expert claims, for the efficient operation of the modern radar electronic cards are needed, but for now it is not at all clear whether the USA will provide them to the Ukrainian side.
    - If not, then the security forces will have to recount the coordinates obtained using the radar and transfer them to the usual topographic map. The accuracy of this, of course, will suffer. So, again, shelling of residential areas and civilian casualties are possible.

    http://warfiles.ru/show-74028-u-armii-ukrainy-net-elektronnyh-kart-dlya-amerikan
    skih-radar.html
    Here or or. Or we blow off dust from old electronic warfare lamps or "drain" information from orbit to the militias.
  47. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 23 November 2014 05: 29
    0
    It will not be possible to send humanitarian aid to Donbas for life, while Kiev will constantly fight until the end. At some point, the so-called red line will simply have to put the whole of Ukraine on its ears, clean it from Poroshenko and other mushrooms.
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 23 November 2014 05: 43
      0
      The USSR has been organizing revolutions in Africa for 30 years, and our nameless boys were soaring there. Well, Donbass Russia will survive, I’m sure.
      Resentment of the outback of Russia is understandable. It’s a pity the simple workaholic people. The stove itself was drowned and chopped wood.
      And not have to put on ears, but on his knees. Give the deadline to build a bridge and energy with water in the Crimea in order to bring ..
      There, new boats will catch up, Mariupol, while the trading port will be bent. Everyone will have to go through the Russian border guards. And by then, Mariupol may already be under the influence of Russia.
  48. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 23 November 2014 07: 14
    0
    It will be like a famous fable: Monkey and glasses!
  49. Cristall
    Cristall 23 November 2014 16: 17
    -1
    Quote: dchegrinec
    Give the deadline to build a bridge and energy with water in the Crimea in order to bring.

    The issue price is voiced. Dates - up to 5 years (at a growing pace)
    There is no sense from him (it’s generally a tunnel, a bridge is impossible) there will not be much, unless an alternative road. Which does not replace either railway or land. Well, the delivery of food and other goods through it is problematic .. and prices will skyrocket .. Dew. goods are more expensive at times. In general, a bridge / tunnel is more for words needed. If it were profitable, it would have been built under the advice.
    As for energy (the Krasnodar Territory does not have surpluses), the ZAES was built with calculations for the Crimea. Water is nowhere.
    Crimea-a child with an umbilical cord .. everything goes through the umbilical cord. But you won’t make a new umbilical cord.

    Quote: dchegrinec
    Mariupol while the trading port will be bent. Everyone will have to go through the Russian border guards. And by then, Mariupol may already be under the influence of Russia.

    won't bend. There money grew. spinning too. Which border guards? The Kerch Strait is Ukrainian-Russian by status - it is not subject to any revisions - this will spoil the Russian Federation itself (redistributing the straits unilaterally)
    Mariupol as it was Ukrainian will remain so. What is attached to it then? As if the DNI, it is so important as a land supply of the Wentorg? It is important for Ukraine as a port of export / import of metallurgy / raw materials
  50. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 23 November 2014 16: 38
    +1
    US helped ukroarmii radar (quote)

    We must respond with adequate measures. Otherwise, the militia will have to tight. And not only them, the civilian population of Donbass, too.

    The United States will try to fan the conflict in the Donbass as much as possible. Radars are only the first swallows.