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"Who are you," Shooter "?"

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"Who are you," Shooter "?"



Alexander PROKHANOV. Igor Ivanovich, I visited Novorossia the other day. And, returning, he began to consider what kind of war I witness. Turns out to be the sixteenth. Starting from Damansky, Dzhalanashkol, Afghanistan ... Donetsk, Lugansk - the sixteenth campaign. And each of these wars does not even have its own face (and it’s like a person — every war). And this is some kind of substance that has its own subjectivity, its own fate, its own development, its memory. Do you feel that the war has any features that go beyond the technology of war? How would you describe the Donetsk war in its phases, stages, experiences?

Igor SHOOTERS. This is my fifth war. There were two Chechen, Transnistria and Bosnia. I want to emphasize its similarity - scenic similarity - with the Bosnian war. The beginning of the Bosnian war is very similar to what is happening in New Russia. When Yugoslavia collapsed and the parade of sovereignties of the Serbian republics began, several regions did not want to go to the Muslim Croatian Federation and raised a rebellion. These republics are Bosnian Muslims, Croats suppressed by armed force. And so, then the Yugoslav people's army came to their aid, but was stopped near Sarajevo, near Vukovar, near Dubrovnik. They stopped not because they met serious resistance, but because it could have caused direct intervention by NATO. The army was withdrawn and abandoned its weapons to the Serbs. Now the situation is very similar. And God forbid that it ended the same way. Because when the YUNA came out, the Serbs could not organize. Then there was a very long, exhausting war. And then it quickly ended - the Croats defeated everyone in turn.

Alexander PROKHANOV. But there is a factor of violence. NATO troops and contingents began bombing ... And how did this war develop in phases?

Igor SHOOTERS. At first, no one wanted to fight. The first two weeks were held under the banner of the fact that both sides wanted to convince each other. The first days in Slavyansk and we, and they very carefully approached the application weapons. The first clash was with the SBU, who tried to clear us, but were ambushed. Not even an ambush, but a head-on collision for which they were not ready. They suffered losses and cleaned up. After that, peace came. The Ukrainian side began to set up roadblocks, an airmobile 25 brigade appeared in our vicinity. But she was not eager to fight. We managed to disarm first the reconnaissance platoon, then the convoy. This was precisely disarmament - under the barrels of machine guns, under the threat of burning machinery, they did not dare to engage in combat and were disarmed by us.

But still, for a long time we did not touch their roadblocks, and they did not show aggression. These are the first steps.

Then, "Right Sector" began to throw sabotage groups towards us - skirmishes began. There was still no National Guard - only the "Right Sector". The Ukrainian side behaved very carefully, step by step probed how Russia would behave. The first month there was no shelling of the city. The first shelling of Slavyansk - at the end of May. Before that they fired at villages, but Slavyansk did not touch. But as they understood that Russia would not react, the shelling became more and more powerful, the actions of armored vehicles and aviation - more and more massive. In early June, they finally became convinced that Russia would not directly intervene, and set off in all serious ways. The first massive attack on Slavyansk was on the second of May. The next - using all forces and weapons - armored vehicles and tanks - they spent June 3. Between these attacks were battles, local skirmishes.

June and July were the hardest. If in April-May everything went on ascending, that is, the territory of the uprising was expanding, we gradually put the settlements of the Donetsk Republic under control, spread the movement, then in June we began to retreat. We began to press out from all sides, the enemy forces were colossally superior in all respects. And the enemy began to appear motivation to combat. Began to work propaganda. And the further, the more this motivation increased.

National Guard battalions began to arrive on the battlefield. They were initially motivated: they considered the enemy, that is, us, as Moscow mercenaries. They were sure. that we are all sent from Russia. And the fact that in Slavyansk 90% we were local, from Donbas, did not even want to believe.
In June-July, when there was extremely little help, the enemy drove a huge force. In general, the increase of forces was incomparable. For example, 40 volunteers came to us during this time, and 80 machines came to the enemy. What is in them - another question. But in each car - at least a person.

In August - at the peak of the crisis - we fought in conditions of almost agony. They just frantically patched the holes, stopped some breakthroughs. We were in full operational environment. And they could not break through. In addition, we have already started, as a classic boiler, cut into smaller boilers. Gradually cut off Gorlovka ...

Alexander PROKHANOV. Are you talking about the phase when you left Slavyansk for Donetsk?

Igor SHOOTERS. Yes. In that phase there were also two parts. When we left Slavyansk to Donetsk, it was a phase of complete confusion on the Ukrainian side. They had a full script, but we didn’t fit in and mixed everything up to them. And suspiciously smoothly everything went with them in this scenario. Very suspicious.

As for the situation with Slavyansk ... After the Ukrainian side had broken through the front near Yampol, we were already hanging by a thread, it was impossible to plug the hole between me and Brain, for this there was not enough strength - at least a brigade was needed. And we did not have a reserve.

And when they took Nikolaevka, we had no chance. There would be a chance if we were massively supplied with equipment and weapons. I had three tanks, one of them was completely defective, he did not shoot a single shot. Only two tanks were combat-ready. With their help, we defeated one checkpoint. But immediately after the defeat of this roadblock, the enemy at all roadblocks put up four tanks. In Slavyansk ukrov had seven blocks, and on each - four tanks. Any ukrov block by technical armament and in numbers was stronger than the entire Slavic garrison. At the end of the siege, I had 9 armored units, including these two tanks, and the enemy on each block had seven to eight units, including four tanks. And I had an alternative: either sit in a complete siege without supplies, or go out. Prior to this, the supply of field roads passed. And when the enemy took Nikolayevka, we had only one field road left, but they also cut her off: if we were breaking down this road at night, then already during the day they had a fast.
So, the options. Sit down. I would have enough ammunition for small arms for good fights for two days. At medium intensity - for a week. After the battles near Nikolayevka, I had 8 mortars on mines for 57 — less than mines per mortar for 10. Everything else was lacking: there was a lack of ammunition for heavy weapons, the worst of all was with anti-tank weapons. The battles were serious, spent a lot, but there was no replenishment. It was all July 5. “Vacationers” arrived in 40 days. We would not have lasted until their arrival. We would not have enough food. And most importantly, the Ukrainian army did not go to contact battles. When we ourselves imposed a contact fight, they had losses. And since the times of Yampol they have taken tactics: advancing from the line to the line, they threw forward only armored vehicles without infantry. In front of the armored vehicles went firing shaft. If the armor encountered resistance, it retreated. Again the firing shaft. Then again, armored vehicles. Again the shaft of fire - and again the technique.

As a result, they began methodically destroying Nikolaevka. Strike blows "hurricanes", "Grad", heavy artillery. Nobody expected such a massive shelling. Some of the five-story buildings in the city simply formed. We don’t even know the real losses of the civilian population - they are huge.
After that, the enemy simply walked around Nikolaevka, and I had to withdraw the remnants of the garrison. It was clear that the same thing would happen again in Slavyansk - already without any pity they smashed it. But I could not answer them, because there were no shells. They would fence us with barbed wire, lay over mines, as they did to others, by taking them into a ring. And they would wait when we either die of hunger or climb a breakthrough. And a breakthrough in such conditions would be accompanied by huge losses, and it is not known whether it would have been successful or not. But in Slavyansk there was the core of our brigade - one and a half thousand people, of which more than a thousand were fighters. There were about 400 fighters in Kramatorsk, a little more than a hundred in Konstantinovka, fifty in Druzhkovka, small garrisons in other directions for 20-30-50 people. And I knew that no one would break through to me from the outside. Neither the “Oplot” or the “East” did not obey me. Bezler, who was based in Gorlovka, at that time had about 350-400 people. If I could not break the ring with my one and a half thousand, then he certainly could not. It turned out: if I stay under siege, then after some time ukry will overlap me, after that they will begin to take the town point by point. What, in fact, began: I did not have time to get out, they already captured Artyomovsk, where they had their own man. And in one day Artemovsk was completely cleared.

At the moment when they were leaving Slavyansk, a second entourage was already planned with the cutting off completely of Kramatorsk, Druzhkovka, Konstantinovka. This is a word about why I, having left Slavyansk, did not defend myself in Kramatorsk: there was no ammunition there either.

Given the deep breakthrough of the enemy to Artyomovsk (he had already reached Gorlovka practically, he was in our deep rear), it did not make sense to cling to Kramatorsk. We would have won for another three or four days, but as a result we would still go out. Any breakthrough, especially unorganized, is accompanied by losses.

Despite the fact that we were leaving Slavyansk in a very organized manner, the whole of our armored group was lost. Tragic accident. Together with the artillery, they had to divert attention from the spot by fire from the outskirts of Slavyansk. Then, letting all the car columns pass by itself, leave as the last - closing column. But then the human factor worked, and the armored group went on a direct breakthrough.

In order not to create a flea market, we were all divided into six columns. Each column had to go out at intervals of half an hour. I made a serious mistake that I left with the second column, but did not stay to the end. I had my reasons: in Kramatorsk I immediately deployed headquarters. But it was necessary, of course, to go out last.

It would not have happened if I myself was present on the spot. And so you can say in my address that I lost my temper, hurried to jump out.
In general, our losses could be much greater. But the Ukrainian side at night never loved to fight, so we brought out the artillery completely, as well as 90% infantry units and rear.

We had 11 mortars in the ranks and two Nona were on the move. The famous "Nona" had to be left, because she, although she had never been covered with her ukry, was all in fragments. Due to wear, she got the chassis. All the time she was dragged back and forth, towards the end, and the gun went out of her system. As the fighters of the Ukrainian divisions who came to us joked, she hadn’t shot as much in her life as in Slavyansk.

So - the armored group went directly, and it was all burned. Blocked the road. The first tank hit the mines, the second tried to go around - fell into a ravine. And the others were shot with grenade launchers. Some people survived - jumped out, broke through.

If at least the equipment came out - it would be possible to act somehow, but all the armor was burned. In Kramatorsk, I had three infantry fighting vehicles and two armored personnel carriers. This is too little - two battalion mechanized tactical groups and a tank battalion opposed us.

And if we could act in the building, then we could not resist the enemy in the open.

In Yampol, our fortified area was broken in one day, despite the fact that we dug in there, there were firing points, dugouts. We have a shortage of anti-tank weapons - there was not a single anti-tank gun. Had then at least one anti-tank gun, at least one "Rapier", they would not have broken through our defenses, despite all the artillery barrage. But with some "neotkatkami" we could not fight. I understood that taking a fight in an open area would only lose people.

Alexander PROKHANOV. You said that for the enemy your way out of Slavyansk was completely unexpected.


Igor SHOOTERS. Yes, he discouraged them. After all, I had a categorical order - not to pass Slavyansk. And when I announced that I intend to go out, I repeatedly repeated the order not to go out, to defend Slavyansk to the last. "You will be deblocked, defend Slavyansk." I ask: "How can you help?" Silence. And I have a thousand people and thousands of their family members. I had no right to put them. Therefore, I decided to break through.

Here's another moment. When I was in Crimea during the Crimean events, I visited the 35 battery. The most powerful impression made on me. Chaly is just great, he restored almost everything on his own. No less impressed by the fact that all the commanders of the Ukrainian Sevastopol defense: all admirals, generals, and pilots fled. The commanders of the regiments and battalions left for themselves. Those died along with the soldiers. And when I was in Slavyansk, I decided: either I would not go out at all, or I would go out with the whole garrison. I made the decision to go out and consider it right.

I am deeply convinced that if we had not left Slavyansk, we would not have kept Donetsk either. When we entered Donetsk - everything was wonderful there. The mayor of Kiev was sitting, the Department of Internal Affairs was still subordinate to Kiev - a classic dual power. The city was absolutely not prepared for defense. The roadblocks are not well equipped, the roads are not blocked, they could have entered as they please. And there were very few forces there, they were fragmented, scattered, no one obeyed anyone: the Russian Orthodox Army was a separate unit, the Vostok battalion was separate, and Oplot was a separate unit. Each unit defended its area, there was no unified management.

The problem was not even in this, but in the fact that Donetsk was almost captured from the south, the enemy occupied Amvrosiyivka. In principle, he has already cut us off the border. DNR was completely under the control of the enemy. And most of the LC was under the control of the enemy. There was only one point - Izvarino, where one of my mouth went from Kramatorsk, and they significantly strengthened the defense there.

And just as a result, Donetsk would be cut off from Shakhtyorsk in general, from the Taraevsky-Shakhtyorsk-Anthracite agglomeration. There were only a few not very powerful roadblocks on the road and Saur-Tomb. And between them there were huge holes where one could enter. Ilovaisk was empty - there was no garrison. Ospino had no garrison or roadblocks.

Arriving in Donetsk, I left in the city only the headquarters, the commandant company. One battalion threw in the Petrovsky district - this is the south-western tip, which was empty. The remaining forces, both of Kramatorsk and Slavyansk, were consolidated into a brigade, divided into three battalions and a reconnaissance battalion. They were immediately thrown at Ilovaisk, Ospino. And I formed the front line.

Alexander PROKHANOV. From your parts?

Igor SHOOTERS. It is from its parts. Because the "East" did not obey me. On personal contacts, it was possible to establish interaction with them. They defended the Yasinovataya district, the Avdeevka, Peskov, Karlovka area. At Karlovka, the hodgepodge was: first there were Bezler's people. Then they left, I had to send mine there. Then I ordered to depart, to break out from there, because they were cut off from us, there was no point in surrounding two companies to lose.

If we had not formed this southern face, I think that everything would have ended very quickly. If we had stayed in Slavyansk, then in a week, a maximum of two, Donetsk would have fallen. And when we got out, we kept Donetsk for forty days before the arrival of the “vacationers”. Although the last days were just desperate. When we left Donetsk, we struck corridors to Russia in the area of ​​Marinka, Kozhevino, Brovki. At the same time they broke through the supply corridors and cut off the entire enemy force in Yakovo.

We held the corridor with very large losses, the color of the Third Assault Battalion died in these battles. When we were breaking through the corridor, in battles near Marinka, 120 lost people killed and wounded in two days - mostly from artillery fire, from air strikes. There were more than 30 killed. For me, this is a huge loss.

And at the time of the “vacationers” breakthrough, my CEP battalion was cut into two parts: a part was defended in Snow, and a part, together with the intelligence unit, was pressed to the border, cut off.

In addition, I constantly had to shoot companies from Donetsk, to throw at other sites. For example, first I had to throw a company of miners and an anti-tank platoon into Debaltseve. Then it had to do the same with the Red Ray. Then fights began near Ilovaisk. At the time of the breakthrough, we were so taken away that I and the military police went into battle - I fought in Shakhtyorsk. In Donetsk, from our Slavic brigade, practically only one battalion of two companies remained, which covered the Petrovsky district. Kamensk battalion, too, almost all left Donetsk. And the rear left: the supply, the commandant's company, which mainly consisted of old men and untrained ones, whose combat value could only be in the city in street fighting, and not in active hostilities.

Some reserves were at "Oplot" and "East", but "Oplot" I obeyed in part, "Vostok" did not obey at all. They blame me for not bringing order there. But I had a simple choice when I came from Slavyansk: either to urgently form a front against the enemy, or to make a coup. But Donetsk at that time was a completely peaceful city. The people were sunbathing, swimming, the athletes were training, the people in the cafe were drinking coffee. As in Moscow in the summer, it was in Donetsk. And nobody would understand me. Although my soldiers were eager to arrest and disperse all these rear men. But I understood: it is worth deploying a civil war - it is here that all of us will slam! I decided that a thin world is better than a good war, and deliberately walked away from it.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Were in this critical situation intentions to leave Donetsk, were the forces unequal again?

Igor SHOOTERS. But they accuse me that I wanted to leave Donetsk. I tell you honestly: at some point I stopped believing that help from Russia would come at all. Just stopped believing! And no one could guarantee it to me.

The critical moment for me, as commander, was during the breakthrough in Shakhtersk. When they drove us out of Debaltseve, and simply the reinforced column of the 25 of the Ukrainian brigade went to Shakhtyorsk, entered the city. When they occupied Debaltseve, I already understood that they would make the next breakthrough at Shakhtyorsk. I removed from the front, that is, isolated from the other battalions, two companies. And they were already loading. And at the moment when the enemy entered Shakhtyorsk, one of my companies was moving there, and the other was on the move to move there. Accordingly, immediately after this I took down two more companies, then another, sent the “Oplot” armored group there, that is, I created a group. At the same time I was exactly Donetsk. Because I was sure that if the enemy was going to Donetsk, then we would somehow keep him on the streets, and to surrender Shakhtyorsk meant completely losing everything.

Since we had a semi-partisan army, we were loading for a long time. Moved too long. All the militia-family, they were taken out of Slavyansk. And we only partially managed to preempt them. One company still entered Shakhtersk and did not let him take over. But ukry cut the road between Shakhtyorsk and Torez. Then they were knocked out of this road with difficulty.

Fights were a whole week, commanded by the King - Kononov. That's why I supported his candidacy for the post of Minister of Defense - he showed himself very well as a battalion commander. He had a reinforced battalion. Four Slavic companies, my company of the military police, the armies of the "Oplot", batteries ... All of these, he maneuvered normally. He knocked out the 25 brigade, defeated it with rather small losses on its part.

At the moment when the enemy cut the road between Shakhtyorsk and Terez, I had a psychological crisis, I began to think about what to do, I thought to move the headquarters to Shakhtyorsk or Snezhnoye and prepare the evacuation of Donetsk. Because I understood: if there is no help, then at least it is necessary to save people.

Alexander PROKHANOV. You should not characterize this moment as a psychological break. I closely followed the processes, the dynamics of your speeches and, perhaps, the dynamics of your fate. And I think that you did everything right. Everything was done right! Based on the real balance of power, otherwise you could not do. On the other hand, everything you did was a messianic feat.

Igor SHOOTERS. Why do I say that there was a break? Because at that moment I ordered to prepare the headquarters for clotting, to load all the staff officers. People did not discuss my orders because they believed me. And I myself went forward to Shakhtersk. But at that moment the road was cut. I spent the whole day there, talked with the fighters, looked. During the day, I practically did not control the miner's brigade, I saw that the Tsar did a good job and did not want to interfere in the actions of the commander. By the evening, after talking with people, I decided not to leave Donetsk, although before that I had planned not to leave Donetsk first, but Gorlovka. And at the expense of the Gorlovsky garrison, cover the northern front of Donetsk and the line to Shakhtersk. Because we have formed there a huge, uncovered hole. But here the fact that the Boatswain stood in Gorlovka, and he defended Gorlovka, played another role. The boatswain acted absolutely correctly: he did not obey my order to prepare the evacuation. And the next day this order was canceled by itself. I understood: in the situation that has developed, we will not be able to withdraw troops from Donetsk or from Gorlovka in an organized manner. We cut off the last road, and the field roads are very uncomfortable. I personally presented the evacuation of Donetsk and Gorlovka - columns of refugees, shot on the roads from all sides. I realized that it is better to accept the battle in Donetsk than all these breakthroughs. In the evening I returned to Donetsk and, despite the gravity of the situation, I did not plan to transfer the headquarters, nothing.

This I answered the question whether there was a plan for putting Donetsk. There was a plan not to surrender Donetsk, but an intention as an option of leaving Donetsk in order to withdraw and rescue people, forces and means.

Alexander PROKHANOV. The alignment of the front and the throw to Mariupol were all just “vacationers” doing, or did the militia also participate?

Igor SHOOTERS. Separate militia units were subordinate to them. But mainly holiday-makers attacked Mariupol. When they were gone, the front line and possibilities remained unsteady.

Firstly, Mariupol was empty, there was no Ukrainian military for two days, it was possible to take it without a fight. But there was an order not to occupy. Not just an order to stop, but an order in no way to take. It was also possible to take Volnovakha.

Why I say that the events are similar to the events in the Extreme: there the Yugoslav People's Army stopped just a step before the decisive victory.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Igor Ivanovich, how did you even dive into this war?

Igor SHOOTERS. I was an advisor to Aksyonov in the Crimea. He is a man of great charisma, intelligent, competent, sensible, talented. I commanded the only unit of the Crimean militia: a special-purpose company that performed combat missions. But after the battle for the cartographic part, when two died (and I commanded this battle), the company was disbanded, the people dispersed.

When events occurred in the Crimea, it was clear that the case with the Crimea alone would not end. Crimea as part of Novorossia is a colossal acquisition, a diamond in the crown of the Russian Empire. And one Crimea, cut off by isthmuses by a hostile state, is not that.

When the Ukrainian government collapsed before our eyes, delegates from the regions of Novorossiya constantly arrived in the Crimea, who wanted to repeat what was in Crimea. There was a clear desire for all to continue the process. The delegates planned rebellions and asked for help. Aksyonov, since such a burden fell on him, he worked 20 hours a day, asked me to deal with the northern territories. And he made me an advisor on this issue. I began working with all delegates: from Odessa, from Nikolaev, from Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk. Everyone had complete confidence that if an uprising developed, Russia would come to the rescue. Therefore, I gathered the inaudible fighters of the company, recruited volunteers. Gathered 52 man.
Slavyansk came out quite by accident. We needed an average city. Human 52 is power in a more or less small settlement. And I was told that in Slavyansk the most powerful local asset. We evaluated this option as optimal.

Alexander PROKHANOV. How did your movement overgrow with people, divisions?

Igor SHOOTERS. When we arrived in Slavyansk, on the base we were met by a 150-200 man. And they participated in the storming of ATC with us. In the ATC there were a lot of weapons - under a hundred assault rifles and 100-150 pistols. People immediately armed. Part, however, was taken away.

The next day we took Kramatorsk: I sent a Cossack unit there - 30 people. And off we go. Then everything depended only on the availability of weapons. The first months of volunteers were many, but we had nothing to arm. When the fighting began, real blood poured, the number of volunteers decreased.

But still there were a lot of them. I was told the numbers: by the end of May, thousands of 28 volunteers had signed up in the Donetsk Republic. 28 thousand people really were waiting for a weapon. If even sweep away half: criminal elements, random, even half is 14 of thousands of people. If we had a weapon, then the situation would have evolved quite differently than it did. By the time I left Donetsk, we didn’t have thousands of 10 under our guns. In the Slavic brigade, the lists were about 9 thousands. But of them combatants, that is, directly fighters, about 5 thousands. The rest are home workers, cooks, volunteers, supplies ...

Alexander PROKHANOV. When you fought in Slavyansk, were you only a military man or did you feel yourself a politician? People, turning to you, ask: "Who are you, Shooter?"

Igor SHOOTERS. Honestly, I was not going to in any way engage in politics, but even to shine. In Crimea, I also did a lot. Headquarters Negotiation fleet I started, went there alone, talked to the whole headquarters. But the fact is that I haven’t lit up anywhere. Yes, somewhere in the photographs some colonel. I did not say that in stock or retired. To solve my tactical tasks, it was beneficial for everyone to consider me acting. At the same time, I never shouted that I was acting. Just said - Colonel. Think for yourself. Well, that's what they thought: some colonel. Several people knew that I was a retirement. And the rest thought they wanted to. Neither my last name nor my name was known.

I also planned to behave in Slavyansk. I was going to find a charismatic leader and assist as an adviser. The first time I did it. Therefore, Ponomarev flashed all the time. He is the people's mayor. was very active. Was useful in due time. Then everything went differently. And I did not find anyone who could be moved as a political leader.

And then the team just came to light up: Denis Pushilin would come, to fully support him. Although I burned all the bridges, there were no documents there, all the men left the documents when crossing the border, but this cut off the possibilities for retreat as such.

As soon as I was without a mask, without a "balaclava", I made a speech on TV with Pushilin, first, everyone understood who the Shooter was. Although, before that, they knew that I was really in command, the interception had already been published, was my photofit, but then they saw me with my own eyes. Immediately I was calculated, taken to an apartment in Moscow. I did not take this moment into account: I did not even have time to warn my relatives. I never introduced any relatives into the course: what am I, where, how. As a result, I suffered personal losses due to this flare, because I cannot live with myself, use my library. Not to mention how much my relatives experienced, who also learned about everything on TV. Throughout the war in Slavyansk I had a military dictatorship. And then I did not climb.

Alexander PROKHANOV. You consider that your experience is purely military, not political. You were the Minister of Defense, the brigade commander?

Igor SHOOTERS. There was a battalion in Slavyansk, there was no brigade. The first Slavic volunteer battalion. There was a banner, a standard. Before leaving Slavyansk, I actually did not exercise any influence over Donetsk as Minister of Defense. I gradually lined up the front. In reality, Brainstorm complied with me, I sometimes set tasks for him. In the line of command, he did not obey me, but in a tactical one. operational - obeyed. I viewed my front line along the Lysychansk-Krasny Liman line. The Slavyansk garrison submitted, Kramatorsk submitted, Druzhkovka — Konstantinovka. For a while Gorlovka submitted to me, Bezler, because I helped him, - he sent a detachment to clean up the city, without my squad he would not have taken control of him.

Alexander PROKHANOV. It seems to me that everything that happened then in Slavyansk and Donetsk with you is somehow connected with the restoration of the state. And you participated not only in the restoration of the military organization, but also in the state as a whole. That is, you had a consciously or unconsciously political role, you stand at the origins of the establishment of the state.

Igor SHOOTERS. At that moment, I perfectly understood that Donetsk and Lugansk alone would not be able to fight against ukrov. Moreover, in the absence of its own military industry, a capable government from the local ones. And initially I proceeded from the assumption that the Crimean variant would repeat - Russia would enter. It was the best option. And the population sought this. No one was going to speak for the Lugansk and Donetsk republics. All were originally - for Russia. And the referendum was carried out for Russia, and they went to fight for Russia. People wanted to join Russia. Russian flags were everywhere. I had a Russian flag on my headquarters and at all. And the population perceived us under the Russian flags. We thought: the Russian administration will come, the rear will be organized by Russia and there will be another republic within Russia. And I did not think about some kind of state construction. And then, when I realized that Russia would not take us to itself (I associated myself with the militia), for us this decision was a shock.

Alexander PROKHANOV. It is not final.

Igor SHOOTERS. We have nothing definitive, that's the thing. The war has been going on for half a year, and we still don’t know: "food" Ukraine, not "food" Ukraine. What is more important for us: gas supplies or the Russian population in the South-East?

Alexander PROKHANOV. It would be desirable that both that, and that. But it does not work.

Igor SHOOTERS. And if not, then what is more important? They report to me that they bombed every day in Donetsk. Full hit lists are sent every day: wherever and where, what kind of projectile. Here, on the eve, from two nights to five in the morning they simply carried the city. Spread! One day, from early morning until late evening, they spread it. A little more - and turn into Stalingrad. And we will bargain a hundred for oil. And it turns out that in trade relations we cooperate with Ukraine, helping it survive, and at the front we fight.

Generally, if I was aiming to seize power in the DPR, I would be able to seize, no problem. When I came from Slavyansk to Donetsk, everyone was waiting for me to seize power. But I had the task of defending the republic, and not seizing power. I would love to go back there. And I think that I did everything right ...

Alexander PROKHANOV. I think so too.

Igor SHOOTERS. But the trigger of the war, I still pressed. If our squad had not crossed the border, in the end everything would have ended, as in Kharkov, as in Odessa. It would be a few dozen killed, burned, arrested. And that would be over. And practically the flywheel of the war, which is still going on, launched our squad. We mixed all the cards on the table. Everything! And from the very beginning we began to fight seriously: to destroy the Pravosek sabotage groups. And I am personally responsible for what happens there. For the fact that Donetsk is still under fire, I am responsible. For the fact that Slavyansk is left, of course, I am responsible. And for the fact that he is not released, I am also responsible.

But, since “in the absence of a stamp, we write in idle time,” we are creating a movement to provide humanitarian support to the militia even so.
To say that we provide them, it is impossible. But we help really. Half of the army is wearing winter clothes that we have set for them. Our help goes to the troops. And only the Russian state is capable of providing humanitarian aid to the population. Only the state! From state reserves must be taken. With the money that we collect, we can help the militia, families, the wounded, but even that is not for everyone.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Looking back at your life, do you not think that all the fractures in your life, throws, wars are the result of some mysterious logic that is not even in your nature, but in fate?

Igor SHOOTERS. I am against any mysticism in this regard. I just think that in every situation it is necessary to act - it does not always work out, unfortunately, correctly: "Do what you must, and whether that will be."

Alexander PROKHANOV. But do the situations themselves arise by chance or logical?

Igor SHOOTERS. In the mess that was formed after the collapse of the Soviet Union, there can be anything. In war, you meet such people who have passed and experienced even more. I was at gunpoint cameras. But I met a huge number of people who deserve this much more. And past more, and more talented in many ways. I fought an officer who knows three languages, before Donetsk passed five wars. Absolutely unique fate. But for some inconsistencies, these people are under a bushel. Maybe their hour will come. This mysticism is a real coincidence.

Alexander PROKHANOV. But mysticism has its field. It exists somewhere, is realized somewhere. And it is realized not among the stars, but in human relationships. You do not try on a political caftan?

Igor SHOOTERS. They really want to try on this caftan on me. But honestly - I never liked the routine work. I am a scout, trooper, like Denis Davydov. He was always a regular service. Although he was promoted to the rank of general, he best of all showed himself as a partisan.

I am a breakthrough man, always going to the top. The greatest successes that I could do best were where I had to go first, break through, begin to build, and begin to build. Further others must come - to build. This is the first. And secondly, I do not have the necessary skills. If you go into politics, then I could show myself precisely at critical moments. Routine is contraindicated to me. I myself get bored, lose interest. Now we have a relatively stable situation. We have a policy built on the principle: put it on - welcome. There is a hook on you - it means that you can work with you. And an honest person has nothing to do in politics now. I hope something changes. Still, the war, it changes a lot.

Alexander PROKHANOV. In Russian stories the military were unsuccessful politicians. For some reason they did not know how to fit themselves into politics, even when they were military aristocrats. The unfortunate fate of the Decembrists. The military behaved strikingly in the last days of the Romanov Empire ...

Igor SHOOTERS. There was just treason.

Alexander PROKHANOV. So the military were engaged in politics - they gave power to Guchkov, Shulgin. And Tukhachevsky? I could not do anything. Zhukov was the master of the country, the power in his hands was absolute. He handed it to Khrushchev.

Igor SHOOTERS. The military implicitly laid the function of subordination.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Only not Hispanic ...

Igor SHOOTERS. The Latin American military is mainly engaged in overthrowing each other. And they did not win world wars.

Alexander PROKHANOV. And the Turkish military? No, there are other military traditions. The Russian military always, after actually receiving power, gave to politicians, who then dealt with them.

Igor SHOOTERS. I am not entirely military in the classical sense. A command of this kind is rather random to me. I am a special service.

Alexander PROKHANOV. As a secret service, you have a chance to become a major politician.

Igor SHOOTERS. Politics now is the manipulation of elections. Lie from the screen, lie everywhere. The main quality of a politician is to spin like a weather vane. I do not know how to spin like a weather vane, and I don’t want to be able to. I want to die an honest man. And I will not lie from the screen, no way. If I can’t be honest, I’d better say nothing. I can get around some topics, nothing more. I will not lie directly. I don't want to.

There is no place for me in the modern political structure, I understand that perfectly.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Maybe not at the moment. But history is changeable, especially Russian history. It has a huge dynamic. I feel with my skin that they are temporary, this silence and truce are absolutely illusory. The most expensive person has is reputation. You have a huge reputation.

Igor SHOOTERS. She is now trying to drown.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Never mind. The train that is hung on you is ridiculous. Maybe you will be tempted, there will be magicians who will want to charm you. Wait for the pipe to blow again.

Igor SHOOTERS. Hope to wait.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Jericho pipes are always ready, do not worry.

Igor SHOOTERS. The main thing is to not sounded copper.

Alexander PROKHANOV. Copper you have already passed, remained Jericho. Arrows took its place in Russian history. He did what he could do. And this, dear Igor Ivanovich, is a precious resource of our historical reality.
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  1. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 22 November 2014 07: 16
    +6
    ARROWS-REAL MAN !!! good
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2014 07: 41
      17 th
      Quote: el.krokodil
      ARROWS-REAL MAN !!!

      What is real in it now? He gathered in politics, Slavyansk remained in the past. Now there are other heroes of New Russia and among them there is no Strelkov and will not be.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 22 November 2014 08: 02
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Now other heroes of New Russia and among them there is no Strelkov and will not be.

        Well do not be so pessimistic! Suvorov was also sent into exile, but he was also called back! So that all is not lost, the battles also continue ...
        1. parafoiler
          parafoiler 22 November 2014 08: 12
          +2
          Do not align too high comparing Strelkova with Suvorov ?!
        2. hrych
          hrych 22 November 2014 09: 56
          +1
          Suvorov - God of war, over the past millennia there will be no more such people than fingers on his hands. Strelkov is a symbol of the uprising of Donbas, its beginning, and it is always difficult to start. But, holding down the main forces and demoralizing the enemy near Slavyansk and Kramotorsk, actually giving time to prepare for the offensive and defeating the enemy in the south, Strelkov lost his nerve and rushed to a breakthrough. The trouble is that if it were not for this, again a brilliant maneuver, but the north would not have been occupied now, and Mariupol would have been taken. Left Kramotorsk and Slavyansk gave the punitive the opportunity to transfer the freed forces from north to south and the militia did not have enough resources to develop the offensive, Marik resisted and had to make peace. Shooters, did not believe in the offensive of the New Russians, and this was his fault. He quarreled with the Cossacks - one of the leading forces of the uprising, which is not good. Well, and the analogy, if you recall the conversation with Chapai in the old film, what would command the bast shoe, well, and as a result, a bul-bul. Although you can neglect how Romanov, the enemy has sex for Donbas.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 22 November 2014 08: 11
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        What is real in it now? He is going to politics
        GDP, for example, has long been in politics, however, over the years it is becoming more real, nmv. Strelkov is still young, the path to the commanders-in-chief in the future seems to be not closed to him.
      3. domokl
        domokl 22 November 2014 08: 50
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Now other heroes of New Russia and among them there is no Strelkov and will not be.

        Hello to the radical! Sanya, is this serious? Maxim has died, and hell with him? It seems to me that you now say a lot of feelings.
        Strelkov did his job and it was removed. You and I talked about this even when. If suddenly, God forbid, he died, then, I think, now he was standing in the iconostasis somewhere near the Archangel Michael fellow
        Very correctly, Prokhanov affected the military in politics. And the conclusion is correct. The military and politician are the antipodes a priori.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 22 November 2014 12: 51
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          the conclusion is correct. Military and politician antipodes a priori.
          The conclusion is wrong. In addition, this is your conclusion, not Prokhanov’s. On the statement Strelkova
          There is no place for me in the modern political system, I understand that perfectly
          Prokhanov replies:
          Maybe not at the moment. But history is changeable, especially Russian history. It has enormous dynamics. I feel with my whole skin that I am temporary, this silence and truce are absolutely illusory. The most valuable thing in a person is a reputation. You have a great reputation
          The correct (= mine) conclusion: the right military and the right politician are twin brothers (almost like Lenin and the party smile ), and sometimes - just one right person.
      4. nvv
        nvv 22 November 2014 10: 07
        -5
        What Prokhanov said is superficial. Ipatyev peeps deep into his article .... http: //mayoripatiev.ru/1416043237 ....... The creations of S. Ivanov in the DPR and LPR are I. Strelkov (Girkin), I. Bezler, A. Mozgovoy and others. I. Strelkov, like I. Bezler, will never (at least in the current political situation) return to Novorossia, the one blocked by A. Mozgova is also faced with a difficult choice, and the current official authorities of the DPR and LPR are forced to balance between Kiev and Moscow, trying to imagine his fate in the intricacies of the Moscow elite. Why did it happen? The annexation of Crimea to Russia, the expansion of the Kremlin in Novorossia, not only raised Russian patriotism to an unattainable level, but also created heroes - Russian soldiers, around whom combat-ready units of people who did not spare their lives for the sake of an idea began to form. And here the Vatican and the Rothschilds were really scared, because Russia and the Crimea began to sail away from them, due to which they were just going to extend the reign of Vladimir Putin, creating a reserve for the deterioration of the economic situation in our country. Such an unprecedented rise in patriotism, the beginning of the formation of the Russian idea and, most importantly, the heroes of the war, capable of leading the Russian people, greatly changed the attitude of Russia's enemies to the further course of events. According to the plans of Great Britain and the Vatican, there should be no heroes in Russia, there should be no growth of Russian patriotism, because the Finintern had planned a different fate for our Power, where the glow of the conflagration of a new civil war was supposed to swallow the Russian state ........ I THINK ROMANOV LAW: How many minuses would you give him.
        1. user
          user 23 November 2014 11: 23
          0
          I THINK THE NOVELS OF LAW No matter how many minuses you give him.


          I think everything looks a little different, Strelkov played a role that, in principle, was not in this solitaire. And the most interesting thing remained alive and not even an "enemy of the people", well, I don’t know for what reasons, he played his role perfectly, just no one now knows what to do with him, yet. And what is even more important, Strelkov understands this very well, therefore he is alive and does not sit.
          It’s not necessary to hang on the person not his problems and he does not play the tasks on this chessboard.
      5. alicante11
        alicante11 22 November 2014 13: 53
        +2
        What is real in it now?


        Well, at least I honestly admitted that I wanted to leave Donetsk. It's hard to admit your mistakes.
        Although, of course, the interview does not explicitly tell the whole truth.
        If we can still say about the withdrawal from Slavyansk that the IIS actually considers this action justified, then the question of what Slavyansk was busy by accident is, excuse me, but completely not true. Too strategically right was Strelkov’s combat detachment.
        I also cannot accept the truth of the words that there would be no resistance at all in Donetsk. By and large, Slavyansk was not covering Donetsk but ... Lugansk. Because dill could well enter Donetsk from the west, they would have been supplied with supplies from Dnepropetrovsk, Kolomoisky would have tried. But to Lugansk because of the IIS, the dill had to go in a roundabout way. And it was not for nothing that Mozgovoy obeyed Strelkov. Because his group in Severodonetsk was still increasing this shoulder of the roundabout movement. But Khodakovsky, as a person of Akhmetov, did not obey the IIS. And therefore it was "not there".
        In general, if we compare the known facts with this interview, much becomes clear.
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 22 November 2014 07: 54
      +4
      I liked the interview, only one moment confused - At the moment when the enemy cut the road between Shakhtyorsk and Terez, I had a psychological crisis, I began to think about what to do, I thought to move the headquarters to Shakhtyorsk or Snezhnoye and prepare the evacuation of Donetsk. Because I understood: if there is no help, then at least it is necessary to save people.

      And when it was announced to us in Donetsk, they say evacuate, at first we thought about stuffing and were surprised that such a huge city can be defended for months, even if the floor of the city is lost, you can fight. But then there was a press conference and Strelkov urged residents to evacuate. And how did he imagine it? Throw a city with huge resources, where you can make light weapons, food warehouses and evacuate to Shakhtersk, where resources are limited and which is easy to encircle because of its size?
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 22 November 2014 08: 13
        0
        I personally presented the evacuation of Donetsk and Gorlovka - refugee convoys fired on the roads from all sides. I realized that it’s better to take the fight in Donetsk than all these breakthroughs. In the evening I returned to Donetsk and already, despite the severity of the situation, did not plan to transfer the headquarters, nothing.

        That's it! And not only for this reason it was impossible to leave Donetsk.

        This I answered the question whether there was a plan for putting Donetsk. There was a plan not to surrender Donetsk, but an intention as an option of leaving Donetsk in order to withdraw and rescue people, forces and means.

        ??
      2. andj61
        andj61 22 November 2014 08: 19
        +6
        Then there were a lot of things. I. Strelkov proposed building a defense on the outskirts of Donetsk, having brought down several high-rise buildings - it’s more convenient to fight in the ruins! And there were a lot of opponents of this. After all, people from these high-rise buildings had to be evicted. People thought the realities of peace. Many did not understand that this was a real war, a war of annihilation, not street brawls. So he planned to move to a small city, which is easier to defend, to evacuate activists and their families. And then the weapons were not enough to defend Donetsk. But when artillery, MLRS, armored vehicles appeared in more or less normal amounts, the situation changed dramatically. Still, in this interview Strelkov is silent about a lot - the time has not come to speak openly.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 22 November 2014 08: 37
          +3
          I disagree. Toto in Damascus for 2 years, the Syrian army can not drive out terrorists and vice versa, mercenaries can not smoke government troops. The small town is easily demolished by artillery and is shot through with heavy weapons and conventional mortars. And in a large city, you can constantly maneuver and strike at the attacking enemy. There is a network of hospitals, factories, supermarkets where you can treat, repair, and eat. And in a small town there is 1 hospital, which is destroyed in the first weeks, a factory or 1 mine. Yes, and where can people take refuge? In a small city, you can devote less effort to the environment. And they need Donetsk up to 20-30 thousand in order to encircle tightly and not everything is shot through with artillery.
        2. domokl
          domokl 22 November 2014 08: 55
          +1
          Quote: andj61
          Then there were a lot of things. I. Strelkov proposed building a defense on the outskirts of Donetsk, having brought down several high-rise buildings -

          But this stuffing was a very serious trial. As it turned out, it was a stuffing.
        3. Stanislas
          Stanislas 22 November 2014 10: 35
          +3
          Quote: andj61
          Still, in this interview Strelkov is silent about a lot
          A. Prokhanov is known to many for his publications since 1986. For 24 years, I have never noticed any "wobbling" behind him, a deviation from his clear-cut position, especially a betrayal thereof. Therefore, I believe that this photograph (together with Strelkov) would not have appeared without Photoshop, if I. Strelkov was hiding something shameful. Rather, Prokhanov would not publish his unnecessary revelations, seeing in Strelkovo a promising politician.
          1. воронов
            воронов 22 November 2014 13: 20
            +2
            Indeed, there are few politicians and public figures in Russia who do not change their views, due to the conjuncture, like Prokhanov.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 22 November 2014 14: 00
              +3
              Quote: voronov
              Indeed, there are few politicians and public figures in Russia who do not change their views, due to the conjuncture, like Prokhanov.


              In contrast to the forum users who were ready to carry the Strelkov hero in their arms half a year ago, and now they are talking about him in a different context.
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      1. draft
        draft 22 November 2014 10: 29
        +5
        Quote: Tamod
        This "real man" is an ordinary piz ...

        What you see in the other, that is, in you.
      2. mervino2007
        mervino2007 22 November 2014 10: 30
        +7
        Tamod SU  "common piz ... bol, crowed out".

        What do you spray with saliva? Perfect images are only in the sky. Assessment of a real person - according to his deeds and their results! Look at the ratings of those who were nearby ....
        1. Tamod
          Tamod 22 November 2014 12: 55
          -1
          Well, that is, now he can carry any blizzard or something?
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    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 22 November 2014 09: 46
      +1
      Now the main thing is that Novorossia is not leaked to the oligarchs in the quiet.
      1. воронов
        воронов 22 November 2014 13: 21
        0
        Do not have to drain.
    5. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 22 November 2014 11: 13
      -3
      Alexander PROKHANOV. You said that for the enemy your exit from Slavyansk was completely unexpected.
      There is an opinion ..
      It affected one peculiar feature of the rebel movement in the south-east of Ukraine. There are a lot of Russian citizens both in the leadership and among ordinary soldiers. Naturally, they would like to keep the opportunity for a retreat. Therefore, in fact, the field commander of the rebels from Slavyansk Igor Girkin, obviously, decided to leave this city. It may well also be that he reached some agreements with the Ukrainian military. Because the departure of the convoy with the militants went without any special consequences for them. Although the military subsequently claimed that they had inflicted blows on the column. Nevertheless, Girkin with his people was able to leave Slavyansk without much loss.
      But the Ukrainian military can also be understood, if, of course, negotiations took place. The liberation of Slavyansk and Kramatorsk was the first major victory of Kiev in this war. Moreover, the cities went to them without protracted battles, which would require significant efforts, big sacrifices and would negatively affect the image of the authorities in Kiev. Therefore, they could well release the rebels. Indirectly, the agreement expressed already in August by one of the senior Ukrainian politicians that they were mistaken when they allowed the militants to concentrate in large cities - Donetsk and Lugansk, indirectly speaks of the agreements.
      . http://www.asiakz.com/beskonechnaya-ukrainskaya-drama
    6. Denis fj
      Denis fj 22 November 2014 13: 39
      +3
      Damn, the hero of our time. That's about whom films need to be set, on what examples of children to bring up.
      Now he seems to be in the same situation as the White Guards at the very beginning of the white movement, which the Kuban did not accept, and Don squinted and shied until the Reds came there and showed what red terror and power were. Maybe Ukrainians need to take a dash from right-wing sexists and other bandits to drop out of lethargic hibernation. Maybe they need to take a sip of ukronazi terror?
  2. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 22 November 2014 07: 17
    +9
    In support of Igor Ivanovich!
  3. valokordin
    valokordin 22 November 2014 07: 25
    +1
    The situation in Ukraine in the Donbass, no matter how the media of our information sang, is difficult. Russia does not help the militia, but there is nothing verbal diarrhea. These programs are haggard with Solovyov, where ours are always winners, but in reality the matter is more serious. I’m not a fan of everything, we all believe that Putin will help the Donbass, but there are no supplies other than food and medicine. Fascism cannot be defeated by potatoes and penicillin. Neither the US nor Ukraine and the EU countries condemned fascism. In Europe, we remained isolated. Even Jews in Israel against Russians support Kuev and flee to Europe. This is the reckoning for our cohabitation. If this continues, Ukraine will join NATO, it was promised to her, and then we are under siege. Those who do not resist are beaten, so there is no joy. No matter how Zheleznyak Serge angrily performed, along with Mironov, except for the foam at the mouth, there is no result. But Zyuganov does not happen at a meeting. And again, the pro-American, or rather, pro-Bays, budget was dragged. Their oligarchs are closer to the body.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 November 2014 08: 05
      +5
      Quote: valokordin
      Russia does not help the militia, but there is nothing verbal diarrhea.

      Yes, really, and a lot of technology there fell from the moon or did you just return from there?
      Quote: valokordin
      but there are no supplies other than food and medicine

      From the moon fell on the Donbass, Kamaz crammed with potatoes and cucumbers
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 22 November 2014 08: 33
        0
        There are no columns with military equipment in the Donbass - this is even the United States recognize. Only Potroshenko speaks about this. And those who fight there say the opposite. They fight only by taking from dill. Although not small, but clearly not worthy. And if the militia had our weapons, Natsik would not sit at the airport.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 November 2014 09: 54
          +6
          Quote: valokordin
          There are no columns with military equipment in the Donbass

          And on the video, a mirage, yes laughing
          Quote: valokordin
          They fight only by taking from dill.

          Yeah, the new pressed KAMAZ with solid glass is especially surprising.
          Quote: valokordin
          And if the militia had our weapons, Natsik would not sit at the airport.

          Well, you are a real strategist, you would be there (God forbid)
          1. Penelope
            Penelope 22 November 2014 10: 55
            +3
            The shooter is a military general in fact, and that’s it.
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    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 22 November 2014 08: 31
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      In Europe, we remained isolated
      This Europe was isolated in the US opera. The authorities of Serbia, Hungary, Finland, the Czech Republic are already trying to get out of there. I hope that for other Europeans such examples will be contagious.
    3. воронов
      воронов 22 November 2014 13: 23
      0
      You are basically right.
  4. sv68
    sv68 22 November 2014 07: 26
    +1
    there was a chance to take Mariupol but they gave an order — not to take — who commanded the militia and already played on both sides for such an order is essentially a betrayal of the nascent republic and its armed forces?
    1. saag
      saag 22 November 2014 08: 19
      +6
      Quote: sv68
      but they gave an order — not to take — who commanded the militia and already then played on both sides

      Such an order could come only from the Kremlin
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 22 November 2014 14: 10
      0
      I have a question. Why is Mariupol so sacred for the militia? Port? So isn’t it easier to carry goods by rail through Gukovo?
      At the same time, Strelkov said that "vacationers" were advancing. And they apparently could not stay there for a long time. They just saved the day. It was already impossible to keep the dill by simply making the army ready, so we had to fight. And when they left, who would this Mariupol defend? Even if the dill had not taken him, there would have been another large city, shot by artillery. Is it necessary?
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 November 2014 07: 34
    +1
    Man is a hero. Nothing more to say.
  6. mmk
    mmk 22 November 2014 07: 39
    -4
    His persona is so popular that he can start to be proud of himself. Previously, pride and praise were suppressed on purpose and they used not very humane methods and were somewhat wise.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 08: 25
      -7
      Quote: mmk
      that he can start to be proud of himself

      for him, it seems, the time has come for a memoirs-journalistic itch. With the syllable, what is already there, is not bad. Although, for example, I will not read.
      Quote: mmk
      Used to pride

      Are you talking about his humble remark that it was he who started the war?
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 22 November 2014 09: 25
        +2
        Quote: Underwood
        about his humble remark that it was he who started the war
        The key word here is "humble" without quotes
        But I still pressed the trigger of the war ... And practically the flywheel of the war, which is still ongoing, launched our squad ... And I bear personal responsibility for what is happening there
        At the same time, he confesses to his erroneous calculations for immediate support of the Kremlin, which makes it possible to highlight the word "responsibility" in his text. The definition of "pride" in relation to the text, nmv, is inappropriate. Although, pride is a constant temptation for everyone: psychiatric hospitals are overflowing with "Napoleons" and "unrecognized geniuses."
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      3. cloud
        cloud 22 November 2014 20: 51
        0
        Underwood, the fifth column (traitors) always, according to circumstances, chooses a convenient place under the sun.
        What are the circumstances with Strelkov II have changed? Looking for a comfortable place?
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 22 November 2014 08: 40
      +3
      Quote: mmk
      Previously, pride and praise were specifically suppressed and not very humane methods were used.
      Shooters also specifically suppresses:
      The main thing is that the copper ones do not sound
      Or do you need him to whip himself while whipping, so that there is less humanism? smile
  7. 225chay
    225chay 22 November 2014 07: 48
    +4
    Right Strelkov and Prokhanov say. In no case should power be given to the proverbial politicians!
  8. pinecone
    pinecone 22 November 2014 08: 08
    +2
    When the Ukrainian authorities disintegrated before our eyes, delegates from the regions of Novorossia constantly arrived in Crimea, who wanted to repeat what was in the Crimea. Everyone had a clear desire to continue the process. The delegates planned an uprising and asked for help. Aksyonov, since such a load fell on him, he worked 20 hours a day, asked me to deal with the northern territories. And he made me an adviser on this issue. I began to work with all delegates: from Odessa, from Nikolaev, from Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk. Everyone had full confidence that if the uprising develops, then Russia will come to the rescue..
  9. Leonidych
    Leonidych 22 November 2014 08: 09
    +1
    Strelkova needs to go to America to Ferguson, right now the mess starts not bad and someone needs to take the lead there ... Let these inventors of color revolutions know what it is ...
  10. siberalt
    siberalt 22 November 2014 08: 10
    12
    Strelkov has already gone down in history as a hero of the Russian world. As if someone did not want to discredit him.
  11. zero12005
    zero12005 22 November 2014 08: 30
    +7
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What is real in it now? He gathered in politics, Slavyansk remained in the past. Now there are other heroes of New Russia and among them there is no Strelkov and will not be.

    Something I don’t see him at political parties, so they’re not going to politics ... What are your specific complaints? He was and will remain the founder of the resistance of Donbass. FIRST is always remembered, the rest in history will be on the side if they do not make something outstanding, for example, a lightning tank attack on Kiev! For politicians, he is extremely uncomfortable, with his honesty and popularity, and therefore they are trying to trample him.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 08: 54
      -9
      Quote: zero12005
      He was and will remain the founder of the resistance of Donbass. Always remembered

      Tie a Donetsk knot on an emotional wave - you don't need exceptional leadership talents. Only military adventurism is needed. But to untie all this is another and much larger question. And Comrade Strelkov, true to his hobby of reconstruction, imitates his idols, the textbook "blue princes" of November 1920 from the Kerch-Constantinople charter flight.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 22 November 2014 09: 37
        +3
        Quote: Underwood
        Comrade Strelkov, true to his hobby of reconstruction, imitates his idols, the textbook "blue princes" of November 1920 from the Kerch-Constantinople charter flight
        Not to criminal authorities, not to oligarchs-embezzlers, not to liberal "human rights activists" ... And Moscow is not Constantinople of 1920, even though it is the Third Rome. So, nmv, "blue princes" are not the worst example to follow in the world of pragmatism, where honor is viewed primarily in the framework of a profitable exchange for more tangible goods. Idealism in politics is quickly knocked out, so some supply of it will not be superfluous hi
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        1. Underwood
          Underwood 22 November 2014 09: 49
          0
          Quote: Stanislav
          not a bad example to follow in the world of pragmatism, where honor is not in honor.

          and I have nothing against such ideas of honor. Simply, regrettably or not, the country does not rely on solitary ascetics.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 22 November 2014 10: 20
            +2
            Quote: Underwood
            the country is not held alone by ascetic
            I agree. But even without the solitary devotees, the country will be like a shotgun that will not fire towards the third act.
            1. Underwood
              Underwood 22 November 2014 10: 32
              -3
              Quote: Stanislav
              But even without the solitary devotees, the country will be like a shotgun that will not fire towards the third act.

              Well, if you are talking about our country, then it will "shoot" even without Strelkov. Maybe he succeeded in guerrilla warfare, but he does not know how to influence the root causes (Bolotnaya, Maidan, as you wish). Let him be an expert on Donbass, but here, in Russia, there are several different processes. A primitive with a Kalash does not rule here until a certain point.
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 22 November 2014 11: 04
                +1
                Quote: Underwood
                if you are talking about our country, then it will "shoot" even without Strelkov
                And here I agree with you, I also hope and even am sure that it will "shoot", but I am also sure that without devotees it would be a "blank shot". They are the salt of the earth.
  12. Rarog
    Rarog 22 November 2014 08: 35
    +9
    Who are you, Girkin? A hero of our time, which Mikhail Yuryevich would love to write about if he lived in the current century. A man from another world. From the era of development (Caucasus, Central Asia). A citizen born in godless Soviet society, but who became (the privacy of the mocking Fortune) a deeply religious officer in the best tradition of the military elite of the Russian Empire. Strange way, brought along the waves of time into the boring interval of bald businessmen and glamorous fools, instead of solemn parades and high-society balls. A dry and responsible military man, under whose skin is hidden a romantic adventurer.

    What are you, Girkin? [a question that Prokhanov did not have time to ask] The self-consciousness of a Russian person, torn from the cage of the hateful modernity. Infected Igor and other people with a spirit of hope for rebirth, as well as courage in the fight against political injustice. “Living the truth is in Russian,” as William Thomson once observed.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 10: 23
      -4
      Quote: Rarog
      Who are you, Girkin?

      Quote: Rarog
      What are you, Girkin?

      comments are an inexhaustible source of pathos. Literature. Ah, with a mantle on his shoulder, but in the saddle ... "Saluted with an espadron ..." But the Kremlin, a scoundrel, was not inspired by the guerrilla games and did not bring in the troops. Strelkov-Guevara leaves the batch in the halo of a romantic and a real man and (a cherry on the cake) not understood and devoted by Moscow.
      I understand that our times have become impoverished with heroes and charismatics, and here Strelkov. Well, let's endow it with all possible virtues.
      By the way, what’s the output?
      1. saag
        saag 22 November 2014 11: 19
        +4
        Quote: Underwood
        By the way, what’s the output?

        The bridge to the Crimea with a bablopopil
  13. valokordin
    valokordin 22 November 2014 08: 41
    +9
    Once again, I say do not flatter yourself with the programs of Volodya Solovyov, he sings well, but without the help of Russia, the Banderaites will bring Ukraine to its knees, as Hitler did with the country in his time. So now and do not hope that the days of Yatsenyuk's Bandera are numbered because of winter. Remember the words of Mao Zedong - "the rifle gives rise to power." If there is a war, then until victory, and there are enough motivated fighters in Novorossiya. Once again, open help is needed and there is no need to be afraid of the West. It will not be worse.
    1. saag
      saag 22 November 2014 09: 33
      +1
      Quote: valokordin
      It will not be worse.

      But what if they don’t let go to Disneyland? :-)
  14. Vadxnumx
    Vadxnumx 22 November 2014 08: 52
    16
    This year I was not personally at home, but there is an older brother and a school friend. A brother in Alchevsk, a friend in Severodonetsk.
    On opposite sides of the barricades, but with the same hatred for "dill". Not to Ukrainians, because they themselves are, but to "dill".
    Gopota drugged by the dream of a sweet European life, who came to the Donbass to rob and kill, deserves only death.
    The words of a friend from Severodonetsk echo the words of Igor Ivanovich, what curva needed to earn money and stop the offensive after the defeat of the dill near Illovaisk? They are "heroes", having shit in their trousers, they left both Severodonetsk and Lisichansk and Starobelsk from Svatovo. They ran away to the very Izyum with fright,.
    And now, as in Khasavyurt, they gave time to dill, they dug in by the ears, built a shelled defense, and from near Severodonetsk the artillery of dill works along the LPR and the DPR.
    The question is, what a bastard makes money on human lives, I think that these bastards are in Kiev and Moscow.
    There is no mainland connection with the Crimea, and do not stop the guys, there would already be a corridor, but we haven’t cut money in the Kerch direction, we haven’t stolen, as we did during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome.
    To make a "rotting wound" out of Donbass someone's long-term project and Igor Ivanovich did not fit into this project.
    My native Alchevsk is not destroyed only because of the presence of a metallurgical plant, just like Mariupol, this is VEB and Akhmetov’s money, just as they didn’t touch the Grozny oil refinery in the Chechen campaign ...
    All this is sad and disgusting.
    Sorry if something went wrong.
    Igor Ivanovich health and return to stand!
  15. valokordin
    valokordin 22 November 2014 09: 20
    +4
    Quote: Vad65
    All this is sad and disgusting.
    Sorry if something went wrong.
    Igor Ivanovich health and return to stand!

    I completely agree, the DPR and LPR will lose without the help of Russia, and that vile truce dressed in a peacekeeping robe will still come back to haunt. Here you have the rating.
  16. tomcat117
    tomcat117 22 November 2014 09: 27
    +5
    Shooters are truly a personality - strong, charismatic, talented.
    He was at the right time, in the right place - this is fate.
    It is not possible to imagine in its place any of the famous warlords or politicians of New Russia.
    Shooter said correctly, he is a spearhead of peaks or, more precisely, a sparkling coal in the wind of history. And everyone else followed, in the image and likeness or in his shadow is no longer important.
    The shooter is the hero of the recent history of Russia. Not everyone is given such a fate, only the best and the chosen ones!
  17. pahom54
    pahom54 22 November 2014 09: 33
    +2
    "We still don't know: What is more important for us: gas supplies or the Russian population in the South-East?" ...

    Who is the shooter?
    An idealist, a patriot, a real man and commander, who believed in and betrayed politicians ... So, unfortunately ...
  18. RUSS
    RUSS 22 November 2014 10: 04
    0
    History will judge everyone, put an end to i, but in any case Strelkov left a huge mark in the formation of New Russia, now let us look at those leaders who are now in power in the DPR and LPR, whether they will cope with their responsibilities. Shooters are a soldier, a warrior, and in the unstable future of today's World he will find application.
  19. Queen Mother
    Queen Mother 22 November 2014 10: 08
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQxYmAziVs
    21.11.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Shaman Slavic: militias demand return Strelkova
  20. Queen Mother
    Queen Mother 22 November 2014 10: 09
    0
    Putin Let them just try
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KF3jf_N9wo
  21. Queen Mother
    Queen Mother 22 November 2014 10: 11
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQxYmAziVs
    21.11.14/XNUMX/XNUMX Shaman Slavic: militias demand return Strelkova
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 10: 58
      -1
      Quote: Queen Mother
      militias demand return

      from whom they demand? Strelkov Donbass, it seems, is no longer interested. As a memoir, perhaps.
  22. Normal
    Normal 22 November 2014 10: 13
    +2
    Therefore, I gathered the company of fighters who had not arrived, and recruited volunteers. 52 person gathered.

    These are the people who change history. "Shooter" and 52 of his fighters.

    But I still pressed the trigger of the war. If our detachment had not crossed the border, in the end everything would have ended, as in Kharkov, as in Odessa. There would be several dozen killed, burned, arrested. And that would be the end.


    And this must be understood by those who believe that everything can be resolved through negotiations and compromises with "our foreign partners"

    And I am personally responsible for what is happening there. For the fact that Donetsk is still being shelled, I am responsible. For the fact that Slavyansk is left, of course, I am responsible. And for the fact that he is not released, I am also responsible.


    Something we have not heard such words from those whose words "are cast in granite." How they love to the place, and out of place to repeat "we have a huge responsibility", and never say "Я I carry personal responsibility, I I answer for that"
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 10: 52
      -3
      Quote: Normal
      For the fact that Donetsk is still being shelled, I am responsible. For the fact that Slavyansk is left, of course, I am responsible.

      AND? Then what? Declared his responsibility while in Moscow?
      1. Normal
        Normal 22 November 2014 13: 55
        +2
        Quote: Underwood
        AND? Then what?

        We will see.

        Quote: Underwood
        Declared responsibility

        Those who say that "lies with us" declare a "huge responsibility"
        And Strelkov RECOGNIZED HIS responsibility.

        Quote: Underwood
        being in Moscow?

        Shooters took (unlike those who are vested with power and on whom this responsibility supposedly "lies") this responsibility is on yourself in Slavyansk and Donetsk, and in Moscow did not refuse it.
        In any case, an act.
        1. Underwood
          Underwood 22 November 2014 14: 17
          -4
          Quote: Normal
          In any case, an act.

          The result is more important. But he is not. But, of course, the Kremlin is to blame?
          And in place of I.I. I would think a dozen times before getting in touch with Prokhanov.
          1. Normal
            Normal 22 November 2014 19: 04
            +1
            Quote: Underwood
            The result is more important. But he is not.

            There is always a result. He does not suit you? What would suit you?

            But, of course, the Kremlin is to blame?

            Well, what are you-what are you ?? The Kremlin is NEVER to blame for anything!
            There are GODS who are responsible only for the sun rising.
            And let the riflemen be responsible for everything else.

            And in place of I.I. I'd...
            laughing
            Do you put yourself on a par with II?
            Great!
            Who prevented you from being in his place? In the Crimea, Slavyansk, Donetsk?

            thought a dozen times before messing with Prokhanov

            But do you consider yourself in the right, without having been THERE, to speak with whom Strelkov can and who should not be dealt with in Moscow?

            You are actually engaged in resonance. Constantly post other people's comments, but almost never express YOUR opinions on the subject. Very comfortably. Criticizing other people's statements and leaving their opinions to themselves, it is easy to look like a sort of detached intellectual with inaccessible other sacred knowledge.
            It seems to me that you are in vain stuffing your price.
            Show YOUR position, then we’ll see what you are worth.
  23. Lord of Wrath
    Lord of Wrath 22 November 2014 10: 19
    +1
    I read your comments. Regained
    You seriously don’t understand that with this interview and the topic of "vacationers" Girkin gave the SBU and NATO, what they have been trying to prove for months, namely the presence of Russian troops.
    And prejudiced by pride and stupidity, you can’t hide here, especially if he is really an officer of the FSB.
    Last time, Kurgiyan forced Gubarev to admit to the camera about 3's tanks. all about the 3's, and this for both NATO and the UN became evidence of arms supplies to Russia
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 22 November 2014 10: 59
      -1
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      You seriously don’t understand that with this interview and the topic of "vacationers" Girkin gave the SBU and NATO, what they have been trying to prove for months, namely the presence of Russian troops.


      "Vacationers" are not Russian troops, many have served in the army and some serve, but in the Donbass they fight as private individuals, and not as servicemen of the Russian Defense Ministry.
      1. Lord of Wrath
        Lord of Wrath 22 November 2014 11: 08
        -1
        Leveling up the front and pushing to Mariupol - did the otters do all this, or did the militias also participate?

        Igor STRELKOV. Individual militia units were subordinate to them. But mostly "vacationers" attacked Mariupol. When they left, both the front line and opportunities remained unsteady.
        Why I say that the events are similar to the events in the Extreme: there the Yugoslav People's Army stopped just a step before the decisive victory.



        Probably difficult to fold 2 + 2. As recently as last night on the Special Correspondent program, the invited NATO representative in Russia already referred to "interviews with separatists", quoted Strelkov about military assistance to Russia, and trumped it right and left. And Girkin is the former Minister of Defense of the DPR
      2. Cornelius
        Cornelius 22 November 2014 16: 17
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: Lord of Wrath
        You seriously don’t understand that with this interview and the topic of "vacationers" Girkin gave the SBU and NATO, what they have been trying to prove for months, namely the presence of Russian troops.

        "Vacationers" are not Russian troops, many have served in the army and some serve, but in the Donbass they fight as private individuals, and not as servicemen of the Russian Defense Ministry.

        The term "Vacationers" is used after the pearl of Mr. Zakharchenko: "Among us are the current [Russian] military, who preferred to spend their vacation not on the beach, but among us." just as the term "Voentorg" or "employees of Voentorg" is applied. A soldier on leave does not stop being a soldier
        For a month now, at least in his interviews, Strelkov ceased to hide that he was a Muscovite and worked for the FSB.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 22 November 2014 16: 25
          +1
          Quote: Cornelius
          Voentorg "or" employees of Voentorg. "A soldier on vacation does not stop being a soldier


          Coming to Ukraine, he is a "tourist", and does not carry out assignments there by his leadership, or do you want to say that in the 30s we brought troops into Spain?
          1. Cornelius
            Cornelius 22 November 2014 16: 46
            +1
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: Cornelius
            Voentorg "or" employees of Voentorg. "A soldier on vacation does not stop being a soldier


            Coming to Ukraine, he is a "tourist", and does not carry out assignments there by his leadership, or do you want to say that in the 30s we brought troops into Spain?

            You can call them anything you like) This is sophistry-puns.
            Al capone was imprisoned for tax evasion, and not because he was the boss of the mafia. Because legally they could not dig complaints against him.
            So the "vacationers" - they cannot legally prove the presence of Russian troops in the Donbas, but in reality ... As if anyone who is somehow involved in this topic understands everything.
            Again, we remember the "little green men" in Crimea. Everyone knew that they were soldiers, but they were without insignia, and Putin argued that these were not the Russian troops, but the militias (then, though he changed his words) ... and that's all) And in Donbass it is still cooler.
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas 22 November 2014 17: 46
              0
              Quote: Cornelius
              You can call them anything you like) This is sophistry-puns.
              Sophistry may be for you, but if there were Russian troops, the topic of Ukraine would be closed, and vacationers only helped the militias as much as they could.
              1. Cornelius
                Cornelius 22 November 2014 17: 50
                +1
                Quote: Stanislav
                Quote: Cornelius
                You can call them anything you like) This is sophistry-puns.
                Sophistry may be for you, but if there were Russian troops, the topic of Ukraine would be closed, and vacationers only helped the militias as much as they could.

                By Russian troops, do you mean the official declaration of war in the grave forces? But just the participation of 10-15 thousand troops (in general) + non-stop supply of equipment and ammunition is weakly recognized? Or is it not enough for you?
    2. saag
      saag 22 November 2014 11: 22
      0
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      You seriously don’t understand that with this interview and the topic of "vacationers" Girkin gave the SBU and NATO, what they have been trying to prove for months, namely the presence of Russian troops.

      Did he say "Russian troops" somewhere? A person has the right to a vacation, where he will spend his personal business, and everything else is speculation, so if he clearly said about the Russian troops, then yes
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 22 November 2014 14: 20
      -1
      You seriously don’t understand that with this interview and the topic of "vacationers" Girkin gave the SBU and NATO, what they have been trying to prove for months, namely the presence of Russian troops.


      What did he give? Is he the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, or maybe already the president? You never know what the "retired colonel" will say there. However, if the Americans wanted to cling to the vacationers, they would cling to it already given and they do not need any evidence at all.
  24. Bor
    Bor 22 November 2014 11: 07
    +2
    I think it is too early to assess the actions of I.I. Strelkov. Yes, he had both mistakes and doubts. Who didn't have them? Only after a certain number of years it will be possible to collect a single picture of what is happening. As many fake articles as about I.I. Strelkov have not been written about any of the current commanders and politicians. It says a lot. If the enemy scolds you, then you are doing the right thing. It is bad if he praises. Therefore, splashing poisonous saliva on I.I. Strelkov does not harm him in any way, only strengthens his authority. "Kurginians" will not achieve anything and II Strelkov will still be in demand by the history of Novorossiya!
  25. Bor
    Bor 22 November 2014 11: 17
    0
    And yet: I’m not sure that we will ever know for certain who specifically gave the order to stop the attack on Mariupol. I would like to know the name of the person who made a strategic mistake, if not worse ...
    1. Lord of Wrath
      Lord of Wrath 22 November 2014 11: 24
      -5
      Personally, I stopped believing in Girkin after the story he told - Go away or we will merge 6 million Russian people. Allegedly said Surkov.
      Now think for a second. Well, who is Girkin to oppose to 6 to millions?
      And what in our country have forgotten how to "soak in the toilet" ??? Now they ask and insist to leave ???
      So the story of stopping the attack on Mariupol, these are just words
      1. Underwood
        Underwood 22 November 2014 11: 28
        -2
        Quote: Lord of Wrath
        Well, who is Girkin to oppose him to 6 million?

        right. Shooters announces his memoirs. Prokhanov as an interviewer is generally nonsense. His penchant for dramatic metaphors already cost Izvestia 500tr
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 22 November 2014 14: 33
        0
        - Leave or we will merge 6 million Russian people. Allegedly said Surkov.


        It may be true that they said that. Only in the interview it is clear "why". For preparing to leave Donetsk. Well, for the departure from Slavyansk. Well, to a heap, apparently, because he dared to raise his hand against the oligarchs in Donetsk.
    2. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 22 November 2014 12: 33
      +1
      Please, this is Mr Surkov, a well-known presidential adviser to the president. Yes, Strelkov himself spoke about this. Now think about what to expect next with such advisers as Surkov, Dvorkovich, ministers Ulyukaev and others like them. Yes, it’s unsinkable and for nothing an unresponsive team, closest to the body of white and fluffy.
    3. Black
      Black 22 November 2014 15: 34
      0
      Quote: Bor
      I would like to know the name of the person


      Yes, I would like a lot ....
      I don’t know about you, comrades, but I don’t quite understand the chain of events and who is behind them. Who supervised the "project" for the entry of the riflemen, who gave the go-ahead? Who commanded, "not to retreat", to attack, who commanded the defeat of ukrov near the same Ilovaisk, who decides on deliveries, non-deliveries, who sent "vacationers", who ordered not to take Mariupol? Who is he - this thrasher? Or is he a group of comrades in whom there is no agreement ????
      It seems that sometimes the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.
      And now how to resolve it all ??? Is it really not clear that you need to beat the hell out of the way and knock ukrov outside the Donetsk region and the Luhansk region !!!! What is the alternative?
      As for the interview ... with all my deep respect, Igor Ivanovich, I think it’s not worth it to be so frank so far, it’s not worth it.
  26. Baloo
    Baloo 22 November 2014 11: 56
    0
    The trouble with the militia is the lack of unity of command, which will destroy them, despite our help. The body is commanded by the head, and if there are two or more heads, you understand, push-pull becomes easy prey. While dill shelling ... This depletion, resources are not infinite. In dill warehouses unmeasured. I wish the militias victory.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 12: 40
      0
      Quote: Balu
      The trouble of the militia is the lack of unity of command,

      in the list of troubles - not the only one. The reason for the victories of the militias, in addition to their personal courage, is also the stupidity of Ukrainian dudes in stripes. But this is a temporary phenomenon, there is no need to harbor illusions that xoxloMoltke's tactical thinking will forever flow from> |
  27. ururu
    ururu 22 November 2014 12: 40
    -1
    Strelkov is not even in the rear and is not going to the front, he marred and abandoned, somehow not manly. Israeli passport however. You can minus at least crap and in my eyes he fell.
    1. Cornelius
      Cornelius 22 November 2014 16: 31
      0
      Quote: ururu
      Strelkov is not even in the rear and is not going to the front, he marred and abandoned, somehow not manly. Israeli passport however. You can minus at least crap and in my eyes he fell.

      Where did you fall? He believes in the idea. According to his slips of the tongue, he was asked in exchange for help ... In mid-August, the situation of the militia was disastrous, without the help of the "vacationers" they would be defeated within a month or two at most. Read his interview)
      On August 12, Strelkov suddenly resigns, the 14th convoy of the vacationers enters Snezhnoye, defeating the battalion of the 30th brigade near Stepanovka on the way ... After that, the advancing troops on all fronts of the Armed Forces suddenly begin to lose almost everywhere ....
  28. lankrus
    lankrus 22 November 2014 12: 42
    +1
    Always bribed sincerity and honesty in Igor Ivanovich. Great warrior and patriot of Russia.
  29. saag
    saag 22 November 2014 12: 50
    0
    Strelkov spoke for the "red", and believed that help would come from the "blue", although in his position there was nothing else left
  30. Straight
    Straight 22 November 2014 12: 52
    +2
    I trust Igor Ivanovich Strelkov by 100%
    1. воронов
      воронов 22 November 2014 13: 26
      0
      Quote: Direct
      I trust Igor Ivanovich Strelkov by 100%

      I agree with you.
  31. Orik
    Orik 22 November 2014 13: 04
    +1
    I didn’t even think that so many divan rooms would get out, judging by the comments. People who have not done even a hundredth part of Strelkov's affairs are discussing him, I recall "scum, or I also have the right." It's disgusting.
    1. воронов
      воронов 22 November 2014 13: 30
      0
      Quote: ururu
      Strelkov is not even in the rear and is not going to the front, he marred and abandoned, somehow not manly. Israeli passport however. You can minus at least crap and in my eyes he fell.

      Not everything is so simple and not everything depended on Strelkov, but he still did a lot for the militia.
    2. draft
      draft 22 November 2014 13: 34
      -1

      Eric, thanks for your exact comment. Interesting is their amazing creative activity in themes about Strelkov.
      In fact, before throwing mud at Strelkov, look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself the question: "Who are the judges?"
      1. Underwood
        Underwood 22 November 2014 14: 14
        0
        Quote: Draft
        pour mud Strelkova

        What did you see in the dirt? Any maxims - either vilification or praise?
      2. Orik
        Orik 22 November 2014 15: 35
        +1
        Quote: Draft
        Interesting is their amazing creative activity in themes about Strelkov.

        Yes, nothing surprising, biting a lion, parasites consider themselves significant, equal to him. At the same time remaining insignificant ...
  32. mamont5
    mamont5 22 November 2014 13: 07
    +2
    Very interesting. That’s how it all seemed. The picture is becoming more realistic.
    The subsequent fate of Strelkov is interesting. He is clearly an outstanding person.
  33. воронов
    воронов 22 November 2014 13: 16
    0
    God grant that Strelkov’s experience would be in demand for Russia.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 13: 34
      -1
      Quote: voronov
      Strelkov’s experience was in demand for Russia.

      in which part of it? What scenario do you propose? Independence Square in Moscow, the split of Russia, bringing the armed forces into obedience to the rebellious Tatarstan (and others)? No, let him cheguevar on foreign territory.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 22 November 2014 14: 36
        0
        Independence Square in Moscow, the split of Russia, bringing the armed forces into obedience to the rebellious Tatarstan (and others)?


        Dear, IIS disowned this when it did not go to the "Russian marches". Although I was also afraid of this. But still, you need to really look at things.
        1. Underwood
          Underwood 22 November 2014 14: 58
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          Strelkov’s experience for Russia turned out to be in demand

          Quote: alicante11
          IIS disowned this

          Then what kind of experience was meant? If Strelkov is not a politician, not an economist, not a military strategist? Ethnographic?
  34. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 22 November 2014 13: 40
    +2
    Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side. Pi ... don’t turn bags over. And only one who does nothing is never mistaken. but on the basis of the principle that I am trembling or have the right, everyone and everyone is watered.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 14: 06
      -2
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side. Pi ... don’t turn bags over.

      as I understand it, applies to all commentators? Or are Strelkov fan club members an exception?
  35. YGV-97219
    YGV-97219 22 November 2014 16: 01
    0
    Quote: ururu
    Strelkov is not even in the rear and is not going to the front, he marred and abandoned, somehow not manly. Israeli passport however. You can minus at least crap and in my eyes he fell.
    And you see from overwhelming patriotism, from Norway, convicts Strelkova!
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 20: 56
      0
      Quote: yugv-xnumx
      from Norway, convicts Strelkova!

      What the fuck network difference, Kyshtym or Narvik? You won - finally the flag of a non-existent country. So what?
  36. ururu
    ururu 22 November 2014 17: 02
    +2
    Quote: yugv-xnumx
    Quote: ururu
    Strelkov is not even in the rear and is not going to the front, he marred and abandoned, somehow not manly. Israeli passport however. You can minus at least crap and in my eyes he fell.
    And you see from overwhelming patriotism, from Norway, convicts Strelkova!

    and I would advise you to rejoice that such as I am not RUSSIAN at all exist in this world who are currently on the side of Russia in this conflict, and personally I collect from the Norwegians and send humanitarian aid to the Donbas. And the fact that I write in Russian does not mean at all that I am Russian since I speak 6 languages. And it’s not necessary for me to tell tales that thanks to Strelkov’s departure, an unrealistic help came, if you see he was stopping them, and if I knew the story I doubt he would have survived in 42 flees from the front. For me he is not a hero. For me, the heroes of the motorbike lynx and Alexander Scriabin blew up a tank with a grenade along with which for some reason they are quietly silent and the hero was not given posthumously.
    1. Underwood
      Underwood 22 November 2014 21: 06
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      Quote: ururu
      and I would advise you to rejoice that such as I am not RUSSIAN at all exist in this world,

      well done dude, well said. Here, a good half with their Russianness is worn, not knowing where to attach, except in slogans like "Bey .... (hereinafter the list: xoxlov,} | {idov, p'indos, greenpeace, Sobchak, illegal bombing, etc. ) It seems to me that the thesis of Russia's getting up from its knees implies a little differently.
  37. Nikoloo
    Nikoloo 22 November 2014 19: 51
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    It would not be repeated, as with Budanov.
  38. cloud
    cloud 22 November 2014 21: 40
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    Igor Ivanovich, your path as an officer, a man of faith arouses deep, cordial respect. God bless you!
  39. Lord of Wrath
    Lord of Wrath 23 November 2014 07: 34
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    Quote: Tambov Wolf
    Please. This is a well-known adviser to the president, Mr. Surkov. Yes, Strelkov himself spoke about this.

    About this ONLY Strelkov said. And everyone followed him.
    As an example, Strelkov also spoke of murdered blacks, hundreds of repose Poles and Czechs from PMCs, wrecked Abrams and noticed Apaches, all in Donbas.
    He also said that he was being bullied. Show me at least one site where they poison him ??? In the media, only bravura and good
    And the last applications were "Kiev is against my return" and "What is more important for us: gas supplies or the Russian population in the South-East?"
    That is, earlier, according to Girkin, it was equal to 6 million of the Russian population. And now even cooler Girkin = Gas. Well, how to say, obviously will not die of modesty.
  40. Tamod
    Tamod 24 November 2014 22: 56
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    For individual fans of this person who moderate this forum, this "lieutenant colonel" chicken, well, I hope now not a single rule of the forum has broken))