Russian admiral: Sevastopol is our city, no matter what flags it hangs

Admiral Igor Kasatonov called Sevastopol the Russian city, "no matter what flags are hung in the city." He stated this, commenting on the events connected with the collapse of the USSR in Sevastopol, set out in the just published on the Black Sea navy book "Flood section".

As the admiral said, during the negotiations that began in 1991-1992, the political leaders of Ukraine, Estonia and Georgia humiliated the dignity of Russian military leaders in an offensive manner.

"The Ukrainian leadership in a rather offensive manner humiliates our Russian dignity. I mean the speeches of Kravchuk, Gamsakhurdia and the Estonian Prime Minister, with whom I negotiated about the prospects for the Tallinn base. It was a shame for us. And Sevastopol, and the Soviet people did not agree with what was happening then. We are still cheering for our fleet, for our Sevastopol! This is our land, and not someone else, no matter what flags were hung in the city! ", said Admiral Kasatonov tribunes of the marine library of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia.

According to the ex-commander of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia, known for his sharp anti-Ukrainian statements, "the entire current state system of Ukraine, including accomplices, is not positive both from the point of view of the past of Russia and Ukraine, and in the context of the general prospects of both states."

"Therefore, everything that affects the interests of Sevastopol and the Russian Black Sea Fleet, everything that relates to the truth and historical truths, it must be upheld at any level, in any audience, "said Admiral Igor Kasatonov.

Regular statements by the adviser to the chief of the Russian General Staff were made after the press and media relations department of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense issued a statement by Defense Minister Mikhail Yezhel, which states that "hydrographic lighthouses should be returned to Ukraine from rent by the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation."

“When you enter the territorial waters of a state, it is this state that bears full responsibility for all activities. It is nonsense that such facilities are used by another state. Therefore, hydrographic facilities must belong to our state,” the press service of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense quotes the head of the military department. , adding that negotiations on this topic are within the competence of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and not the Ministry of Defense.

According to the decision of the Economic Court of Crimea of ​​2 in August, the lighthouses of the Black Sea Fleet of Russia should soon be withdrawn by Ukrainian bailiffs.

Comments

[Helmut]

I absolutely agree with the admiral. Ukraine is a Russian land, it was and will be so.

[Superduck]

Then Sevastopol is already "our", I see no problems

[Helmut]

At one time, the lands from the border to Moscow and Stalingrad were under German control, but this did not mean that it was their (Germans) land at that time. Is the logic clear?

[Superduck]

Good comparison! Then he is not "your" of course.

[Helmut]

Our, ours. How would you not like the opposite.

[jamert]

If in 1994 Don Kravchuk didn’t give our nuclear weapons under false Russian security guarantees, then we would have something to shut our mouths with for all such stinky admirals.

[Helmut]

our nuclear weapons

Thank you, cheered up.

[jamert]

The strategic nuclear forces deployed in Ukraine had 176 intercontinental ballistic missiles, as well as about 2 tactical nuclear weapons.
And all this was given a lie about security guarantees.

[Helmut]

What do you mean given by Ukraine? Russia simply took away part of its weapons from its temporarily illegally alienated part.

[Maximum]

And what guarantees do you expect from NATO ???

[figwam]

If we do not return Sevastopol, Turkey will pick it up.

[Superduck]

Turkey’s interests in Crimea are a much bigger myth than Chinese cards with red arrows to Chelyabinsk. It is impossible to keep Crimea in the event of a retaliatory attack and control if not control at least the south of Ukraine.

[Daniil]

Well, of course!!! According to the agreement of 1878, if Russia loses, surrenders or abandons Crimea, Turkey has the right to it.

[DEfindER]

Yes, it’s not at all clear how you can divide the territory into Ukraine and Russia! Historically, there have never been such states separately, Ukraine has for centuries been one with Russia. and the borders between them during the times of the USSR were drawn purely symbolically, in Ukraine Russians as well as Ukrainians in Russia always lived. Only the small western region of Ukraine, no more than 10% of the territory, could have something against it, and in fact only the Ukrainian language exists there. And in the rest of the territory everyone speaks Russian, he himself spoke with Ukrainians, even there is no accent .. Kiev has always been Russian a city like Smolensk, Moscow, etc.
But the most important thing is not even this, but the fact that the people in 91 did not want the collapse of the USSR, and they destroyed it artificially, having bought the necessary politicians in all the Union republics, including the most important purchase of the imperialists Gorbachev .. Against the will of all Soviet people, we were deprived of the state, which had influence in the world, divided into so many countries that in history there was not such a humiliating outcome of the war with any country! Mikhal Sergeevich 100% deserved his Nobel ..

[figwam]

Quote: DEfindER

Yes, it’s not at all clear how you can divide the territory into Ukraine and Russia!

So the fact of the matter is that we did not divide a single country.

Quote: SuperDuck

Turkey’s interests in Crimea are a much bigger myth than Chinese cards with red arrows to Chelyabinsk.

Well, yes, probably in the fairy tales with the Turks they fought on the Black Sea, they had intires, there is and will be a strong fleet of confirmation to this.
As soon as the fleet of Russia leaves, NATO will come up with a pretext (and they will definitely come up with it) for sending troops into the Crimea, such as protecting and supporting the nat, minorities, namely the Tatars.

[Old Cat Basilio]

And a noose around your neck!

[Helmut]

In fact, Ukraine is Russian Kosovo. Only in the role of Albanians is a group of Russians who for some reason consider themselves not Russians, but a separate nation called "Ukrainians". Everything turned upside down.

[LESHA pancake]

and who are the western Ukrainians?

[Helmut]

Russians. But Austrian intelligence made them "Ukrainians".

[Splin]

Port Arthur is also a city of Russian glory, but Korea does not require it for this.

[Old Cat Basilio]

And to hell with Korea, when he is in China ?!

[Old Cat Basilio]

Port Arthur was the Soviet Navy, until in 1954 this clown Khrushchev gave it to the Chinese, just like the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, and the base in Porkkala to Finland. Benefactor, his mother ...

[Superduck]

Boys, do not feed the trolls, plz. they themselves will become bored.

[Leo848]

I’m not an expert, I just read it somehow, and then watched the program on TV, so it showed that the beacons around the world had almost covered everything up, because now there is GPS, and the fleets only work with them. Then the question is .. .

[Superduck]

Have you heard of the lighthouse gathering? Seem 500 bucks from the ship just because it passed near the lighthouse.

[figwam]

GPS is a US system, as you can imagine, our naval fleet operating under this system.

[Leo848]

So we have it even better, more reliable, more jeep-Glonass, or it didn’t grow together again, so soon we will be sailing through the stars, ... and we would not want to.

[almost demobil]

This summer I was in Sevastopol on the day of the Navy. I declare with full responsibility that this is a Russian city, residents think in Russian, all announcements, signs, posters are written in Russian, cars with Ukrainian numbers, but always with a Russian flag under glass (even with a government pass) .Also in Sevastopol, I saw only Russian sailors and marines. And Khrushchev - the curse removed, let him turn over in his grave!

[Makl]

Quote: jamert

If in 1994 Don Kravchuk didn’t give our nuclear weapons under false Russian security guarantees, then we would have something to shut our mouths with for all such stinky admirals.

You see, dear Ukrainian resident. The objects of world politics are not supposed to use nuclear weapons, only to the subjects. But you do not belong to those ...

[Siberian]

I would like to remind the respected JAMERT. After the collapse of the USSR, thanks to Mr. Yeltsin, Russia assumed all the international obligations of the Union, and not Ukraine, Estonia, Georgia, etc. Including a huge state debt, which the Union consumed together and repaid (malnourished) only Russia. Therefore, all nuclear weapons went to Russia, and thank God. Could, fraternally, for this, and return Sevastopol, you still do not need it.

[jamert]

But Russia also received the entire Navy of the USSR (except for a few rusty Black Sea Fleet ships, which it generously gave to Ukraine) and all overseas property, and all bank accounts, gold and diamond funds. This, too, was created all together.
Although ... what to argue now.

[krymskij]

By the way, the example of a submarine transferred to Ukraine does not mean anything? Well, there, batteries from Greece (not from Russia) that did not fit in it, etc. Balaklava handed over to the Ukrainian Navy, what is it now?

[Daniil]

Do you know that after the collapse of the USSR, we have a little less than 50% of the entire fleet of the Soviet Navy? We had 4 aircraft carriers ...... and only 1 remained, and even that is already rotting ....... not to mention all 4 fleets on which there are 30-40 ships. -This is a laugh .....

[Garfield]

Admiral Igor Kasatonov! SUCK THE BIG UKRAINIAN BOLT FOOL !!!

[mitrich]

garfield,
and you are aware that as a result of taking Western steroids, a large Ukrainian bolt decreased significantly. We can say that it is almost invisible. From the force of a centimeter and a half in an erect state ...

[Garfield]

MITRICH! I just looked at the photo of this "admiral" and understood DOWN, not the admiral. So that he can only suck in a choke with his utopian down ideas

[Helmut]

2 garfild
Look in the mirror, there you will see a real moron.

[Don]

All forum users from Ukraine, let's face it. Not in my Donbass, not in Sevastopol, not in Odessa, not in Crimea, there are no real Ukrainians and especially Ukrainian patriots. These lands have never been Ukrainian and people living there , for the most part, they do not consider themselves Ukrainians, but consider themselves Russian. Those who have been to these cities and regions know this.

[Makl]

Quote: Garfild

MITRICH! I just looked at the photo of this "admiral" and understood DOWN, not the admiral.

This "down" was in command of the fleet.

What did you achieve?

[Garfield]

Even the presidents are killing kuynyu! And the senile former commander, de also a Ukrainianophobe, especially!

[His]

Prosrali Sevastopol and the Black Sea

[Garfield]

Statements of the admiral fall under the signs of Art. 110 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine Assault on the territorial integrity and inviolability of Ukraine

1. Deliberate actions committed with the aim of changing the borders of the territory or state border of Ukraine to violate the procedure established by the Constitution of Ukraine, as well as public appeals or dissemination of materials with calls for such actions, -

shall be punished by restraint of will for a term of up to three years or imprisonment for the same term.

2. The same actions, if they are committed by a person who is a representative of the authorities, or repeatedly, or after a previous conspiracy by a group of persons, or combined with incitement to national or religious hatred, -

shall be punished by restraint of will for a term of three to five years or imprisonment for the same term.

3. The actions provided for in the first or second parts of this article, which led to the death of people or other serious consequences, -

Shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of seven to twelve years.
So that grandfather can be banned from entering Ukraine for at least 10 years (Art. 110 heavy) SBU and a flag in his hands!

[serezhasoldatow]

Garfil! You must first learn how to communicate in the internet, and then to offend. Nobody gave you this right, but what was done with Sevastopol and the fleet Yeltsin and others like them experienced on his own skin. The so-called "UKRAINIAN NATIONALISM" surpasses everything that Stalin, Hitler and others like them did. This is especially reflected in the minds people who were born after the collapse. the first reasonable man appeared in Ukraine, Nakhimov, the famous Ukrainian admiral, England was shaking from the campaign of the Cossacks, etc. And so on, if I don't eat it, I'll take a bite. When you write, sometimes at least THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!