"Supergranatomulet" UAG-40 still can not oust the Soviet AGS-17 from the Ukrainian army

Last year, the Ukrainian enterprise Zavod Leninskaya Kuznitsa produced several pre-production copies of the UAG-40 automatic grenade launcher. And although the creators call it “an effective tool both against the enemy manpower and against lightly armored equipment and protective structures,” it has not yet received propagation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The servicemen continue to use the proven AGS-17 inherited from the USSR, writes in its article published on the website Messenger of Mordoviaan expert on arms Dmitry Lemeshko.

According to the developers, the UAG-40 “allows firing at targets at a distance of 2200 meters, its weight together with a tripod - 31 kg (without a tripod - 17 kg), maximum length - 960 mm, grenade departure rate - 240 m / s, pace firing - up to 400 shots per minute. "

The grenade launcher mechanism is built on the basis of automation with a free gate. “The cap and the shot are made in the reel of the bolt. Submission of grenades - tape (American metal tape M16). Grenades are high-speed, all existing types of grenades of the NATO standard are used, ”the author reports.

According to the description, “the muzzle brake is designed so that, using gas from the combustion products of gunpowder, it reduces the recoil impulse, the impulse impulse impulse upwards and the spraying of particles of the soil on which the tripod is located.”

According to Ukrainian experts, UAG-40 is superior to AGS-17 in a number of characteristics. “However, it will be many more years before the novelty replaces the Soviet veteran grenade launcher. The advertised dignity - the use of NATO ammunition (which is not in Ukrainian arsenals) - significantly hinders the introduction of the Leninskaya forge product, ”Lemeshko concludes.

Comments

[mirag2]

And, this is the grenade launcher, the release of which was established at the Leninskaya Kuznya plant, which Poroshenko recently acquired, I have already demonstrated the ukroKanal investigation video.
Could quickly find, please:

[nikrandel]

And how do you like! Everyone lived in one country - they made great weapons!
But they got the independence, and scientists scattered abroad, the quality fell many times, there is no money, what else did you want?

[Vladimir73]

Speak grenade launchers and electric heaters ?! It turns out just a business ....

[Denis fj]

Strange thing.
The grenade launcher itself does not make the impression of crafts, although who tested it in work?
But the machine is a squalor, and it will be pulled very strongly, especially if shooting with a strong twist will be carried out.
The sight was impressive, yes ... Compared with the AGS, this is a step back to the times of the First World War.

Killed on the spot price. For what?! Or is there already 500% of the rollback accounted for ??

The price of this squalor is 20 thousand dollars. !!!!

[Viktor Kudinov]

For this pipe on a chicken leg !!! ??? Yes, for the money it’s better to hit the cruise!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: denis fj

The price of this squalor is 20 thousand dollars.!

So everything just turns out. If the chocolate king began to produce grenade launchers.

Quote: mirag2

... which is produced at the Leninskaya Kuznya plant, which Poroshenko recently acquired

[boris-1230]

How? Another "Lenin Forge"? Urgently luster! There will be "Chocolate Hammer"!

[your1970]

crap with holes - sight ??? I didn’t realize right away, I thought maybe grenades from above

[boris-1230]

Have you tried to shoot? Or is it a layout? Sight, as on the maxim of the anti-aircraft quad.

[terrible]

))) This is cho! They speak Polish!

[terrible]

))) This is cho! They speak Polish!

[Uncle]

Quote: mirag2

adjusted at the Leninskaya Kuznya plant

plant "Leninskaya Kuznya" makes a grenade launcher for NATO standard. Nonsense, however.

[Cornelius]

Quote: Uncle

Quote: mirag2

adjusted at the Leninskaya Kuznya plant

plant "Leninskaya Kuznya" makes a grenade launcher for NATO standard. Nonsense, however.

The fact that you (not personally you alone, but most members of the forum) are attached to this grenade launcher does not honor your knowledge. He say it was made a year ago and under a foreign customer. Therefore, under the NATO standard.

By the date of the video (October 17, 2013), I think it’s clear that then no one thought about the ATO.

The same grenade launcher based on the Kozak armored car. Video beginning of February last year.

[ruslan207]

Actually, this grenade launcher is not aware of the Belarusian development. And on the account of delivery to the troops, they have nothing to supply

[Ustian]

Lenin's goose ...

[boris-1230]

"Poroshenskaya guznya"

[svp67]

The film was clearly filmed with Kolomoisky's money ... And yet, the Ukrainians are shouting loudly that they don't have T72, let them carefully look at what kind of tanks are on the trailers, this is the T72 modification "B"

[Cornelius]

Quote: svp67

The film was clearly filmed with Kolomoisky's money ... And yet, the Ukrainians are shouting loudly that they don't have T72, let them carefully look at what kind of tanks are on the trailers, this is the T72 modification "B"

There is a big difference in the availability of tanks and their adoption and use in hostilities. Ukraine also has T-55 tanks, and they even upgrade them at the plants, but this does not mean that the APU drives them in the Donbass.
The maximum, at the moment, where I saw the T-72 at the security forces, is at the exercises of the National Guard and at arms exhibitions. Well, the "squeezed" APU from the militia

[Giant thought]

And who needs this grenade launcher without ammunition.

[chelovektapok]

And they believe that they will be "given" .... For free. As teenagers ... only in gayrope they will not be "given" but will be fucked themselves. Loshars ....

[Themi30]

Ukrainian Authentic Ga ... Garanatamet?

ps a guard and metal wheels are needed, and the bed is a bit thicker and heavier + a stool also made of metal is welded to it, well, so it was more convenient)

[gas113]

Withdrew from the tongue ...)))

[Alexander]

Yes, he has the wrong grenades ...

[mamont5]

Quote: alexandr

Yes, he has the wrong grenades ...

They do not have grenades - they have the brains of the wrong system.

[Lissyara]

In appearance it resembles a canister (Gatling machine gun) of 1862, if the shield and wheels are "unscrewed" from the last one, and a handle is placed on the UAG for twisting and supplying ammunition "for a shot".

[wasjasibirjac]

can Ukrainians explain why such long hind legs of a tripod are needed, and even with ukrovoin sitting either of them?

[Albert1988]

Here, it’s rather necessary to explain what kind of ... they made a miracle with NATO ammunition - it’s clear that it is possible to export, but you’ll already put figs in your army ...

[Vasyan1971]

So this is the most important chip - UNDER NATO Shot! This is practically an overwhelming peremoga! Almost already in Europe !!!

[Alexey RA]

Quote: wasjasibirjac

can Ukrainians explain why such long hind legs of a tripod are needed, and even with ukrovoin sitting either of them?

And this is the result of heavy impressions from the operation of the light miracle machine AGS-17.
Have you seen the video of firing from the AGS-17? There, the first number as soon as it is perverted, except that it does not lie on a tripod - if only this goat would not jump on the fire.

[Magic archer]

Ukrainians are positioning ANY weapon as the best in the world! But in fact it’s just modernization of the old Soviet one. Not one of its own development, which would reach the army, the market and gained world recognition. Even the armored personnel carriers of the Iraqi contract were returned.

[alex-s]

Not a single in-house development that would reach the army

But what about this?

[boris-1230]

The flags are especially touched - this is to make it easier to find in the grass when the cord from the remote control is interrupted!

[Denis]

Quote: Magic Archer

Not a single in-house development that would reach the army

And this one, even now in battle!

[Viktor Kudinov]

Cool constipation. So it asks as an exhibit in the museum of machine moronism.

[Vasyan1971]

Apparently he is there!

[Eaglealex]

So here you are, a Jewish armored car!

[boris-1230]

The Germans in World War 2 said that Italian tanks had 4 speeds - 1 forward and 3 back. Such need ukrovanyam, so that it was more convenient to drape.

[Denis]

Quote: EagleAlex

So here you are, a Jewish armored car!

In my days, it was like that, except that without a hitch

[boris-1230]

Probably all-wheel drive! Here’s a weapon

[Penelope]

Another Ukrainian dummy.

[boris-1230]

Quote: Magic Archer

Even the armored personnel carrier of the Iraqi contract and those returned.

Because even the Soviet armored personnel carriers couldn’t paint normally!

[Buran]

400 rounds per minute, but where is the ammunition under it? If he starts to shoot,

Grenade supply - tape (American metal tape M16). Grenades are high-speed, all existing types of NATO standard grenades are used, ”the author reports.

then Russia had its hands untied for the supply of modern weapons to New Russia. That is, we did not start the delivery of lethal weapons.

[Cristall]

Quote: Buran

then Russia had its hands untied for the supply of modern weapons to New Russia. That is, we did not start the delivery of lethal weapons.

and the unidentified Grad columns on the Ural chassis in the streets of Donetsk - squeezed from Ukraine or produced in a month in the DPR?
The Russian Federation’s hands were untied for a long time ... Voentorg is called .. otherwise, neither the DPR nor the LPR would have existed for a long time ..

[Sergey-8848]

It's not a virtue at all, it's a fucking flaw! The designers simply fled ahead of everyone else to Europe, and now they are looking around with questions: "Where are we?"
And also the name of the plant - "Leninskaya Kuznitsa", directly captivates. Why is the plant not lustrated, what are you doing ?!
Ilyich would not have suffered such a dirty trick under his name.

[tabletkin73]

The owner of this plant Poroshenko, on TV recently showed

[silver169]

Another clumsy made dill. Something reminiscent of the first machine guns of the early 20th century.

[Denis]

And what were these clowns going to pay for the workers to release, or rather, what could they pay?

[AleksWest]

HOW ALWAYS THE LAST TIME AT UKROP IS EVERYTHING BETTER THAN RUSSIA. AND TANKS AND APCS AND Grenade Launchers, etc. And HOW AROUND THE WORLD, they are fighting against Kalashnikov and RPG-7, etc., and so are fighting

[Bronik]

He has no combat experience, but has already been recognized as the best. Dill do not know how to do well, but only "better."

[Mama_Cholli]

Judging by the photo, then under this Ukrainian miracle, apparently you need to lay a brick for stability?
In addition, the machine / carriage itself seems to be a bit high compared to the ACS. There may be problems with unmasking, and the center of gravity will be a little high. (they would have done it right away) And it seems to me (if the AGS is jumping like) that the guy who will sit on this gun carriage, to compensate for the recoil of the weapon, is at risk of acquiring corn 5 points.

Pisi: And by the way, the carriage will interfere with the installation at the edge of the trench / funnel

[Alexey RA]

If you fix all the shortcomings you described, it will turn out ... Mk 19 or AGS-40. And it will be very difficult to explain what the design bureau and the plant have been doing all this time and for what they have received a salary.
And in its current form - you can safely talk about unparalleled in the world.

[Mama_Cholli]

I agree with you. This in the world has no analogues. )))

[boris-1230]

So ukrovny and will press the 5th point of the carriage, so as not to jump! At the same time and enjoy, all in one bottle!

[gozmosZh]

240 m / s and 400 v / m? 6,6 rounds per second? something is unbelieving.

[NDR-791]

The advertised advantage - the use of NATO ammunition (which is not in the Ukrainian arsenals) - significantly inhibits the introduction of the product
Today in Russia24 the desire of a woman to send "military aid" to dill was voiced in spite of the Congress. So let's see what they send - grenades, M4-M16, armored helmets. Let the ukrop supply in the nomenclature get confused, this is something for us. And if something is high-precision, large-caliber, then it seems to us not bad either - it is necessary to master all this for a long time and thoughtfully. But if, in addition to all this, there are also official instructors - then goodbye America, oh !!!

[Cristall]

Quote: NDR-791

Today in Russia24 the desire of a woman to send "military aid" to dill in spite of the Congress was voiced. So let's see what they send - grenades, M4-M16, armored helmets

it’s a pity that the Russian news is lying ... The fact is that Obama will not send anything without the consent of Congress .. and Congress has not approved anything besides non-letting.
So what are the wishes of Obama as the wishes of Panama - besides who knows about the wishes of Barack? hardly Russia24 ...
here to highlight the grouping for oil..this is another matter ...

[boris-1230]

They have a lot of all kinds of funds, so there will be funding bypassing Congress. ISIS was arming, but why are the great proto-cavities worse?

[boris-1230]

It looks like the nomenclature of the Wentorg will be expanded by Western-made products! Ukrobeytsy all the same prosr.rut or pro.pityut!

[kelevra]

It is not surprising that our products and equipment have long proved to be excellent both in the market, among many different picky buyers, and in real battles. It’s hard to imagine anything worthwhile against experience now!

[Denis]

And in a couple to him the same nonsense:
An experienced Ukrainian ultra-light MLRS based on a LuAZ-969М all-terrain vehicle, created at the Lutsk Automobile Plant in the 1990's. It was not accepted for service and was not mass-produced.

MLRS is

...
the factory implementation of the concept of artisanal combat vehicles - “technicals” with NAR units as weapons, which are widely used in local conflicts.

The chassis of the combat vehicle differs from the base one in a slightly modified body and reinforced suspension, the other tactical and technical characteristics are kept at the level of a serial car. As armament, the 57-mm NAR S-5 UB-32-57 block with 32 rails mounted on a turntable in the rear of the case was used.

Classification of multiple launch rocket system
Chassis LuAZ-969M
History
Country of development
Number of issued, pcs no less than 1
dimensions
Length in the stowed position, mm 3390
Width in the stowed position, mm 1610
Height in stowed position, mm 1770
weaponry
Caliber, mm 57
Number of rails 32
Maximum firing range, m 1800
Mobility
Engine type MeMZ-969А, 1197 cm³
Engine power, hp Xnumx
Maximum speed on the highway, km / h 90
Wheel formula 4 × 4
Understand the enemy!

[Lopatov]

UBLFDS universal battery-level fire control system. Purchased by the Americans for the Afghans in the amount of 300 sets. Produced by Ukranian Defense Consulting. If the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense purchases 500 kits as they wanted, then the militias will have big problems.

Gun Kit, Senior Battery Officer Kit

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Spade

If the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine buys 500 sets, as they wanted, then the militias will have big problems.

That's for sure. Yukrapraporschiki will not sell such a station cheaply - you will have to look for a lot of killed raccoons with small unmarked bills.

[Lopatov]

There is an option that the Americans will pay for them, as was the case with the Afghan supply.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Spade

There is an option that the Americans will pay for them, as was the case with the Afghan supply.

Options can be all sorts.
That's just all of them run into 2 problems: poor preparation of military personnel for ZSU and NG, multiplied by the lack of money from this personnel. And there are also miracle warehouse workers.
Pomnitsa, in the Ukrainian’s recollections of his service in Iraq, regularly slipped: they are in the warehouse, but they don’t give them to their hands, because it’s an expensive thing, if you don’t unsubscribe for it. And then it turns out that everything in the warehouse also evaporated somewhere ...

[Lopatov]

The fact of the matter is that such a system is just designed for a fool. It dramatically reduces the requirements for the brains of personnel. Including team.

[boris-1230]

So they will stimulate the brains by sitting the brain on the carriage of their famous, unparalleled shit!

[boris-1230]

Voentorg he and Voentorg in Iraq!

[Cristall]

Quote: Spade

If the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine buys 500 sets, as they wanted, then the militias will have big problems

Computerized fire control systems are becoming an increasingly necessary tool in modern combat conditions. It is they who are able to coordinate the actions of units, optimally establish the target distribution, effectively manage fire support systems and automatically process all kinds of data.
USU OBU (UBLFDS) was developed by the designers of the Ukrainian company Ukranian Defense Consulting (UDC). Field tests of this system took place from August to October 2013. Representatives of Ukranian Defense Consulting, together with cadets of the RV&A faculty of the Ukrainian Army Academy at the Lviv training ground, used the UBLFDS complex using D-30 howitzers. It is worth noting that this system was originally developed specifically for the D-30 howitzer. But the computer itself can be configured for almost any artillery installation. After 20 minutes of instruction, cadets confidently used the Ukrainian system of USU OBU.
The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine intends to equip those units that use 152-mm self-propelled howitzers 2S3M, 152-mm self-propelled guns 2S5, 122-mm MLRS BM-21 Grad and 220 mm MLRS 9K57 Uragan.
Later, in November 2013, tests of the UBLFDS complex were carried out already in Rivne. The 80th airmobile regiment of the Ground Forces of Ukraine took part in the exercises.
The complex proved its effectiveness during the tests. The developers claim that this system of USU OBU allows online to distribute data over the network to speed up the implementation of various military operations. A universal fire control system makes it possible to fully automate the process of preparing combat installations for shooting, which significantly increases the accuracy of targeting.
The UBLFDS complex includes:
- portable computer (PDA TDS NOMAD; located at the senior battery officer),
position sensors (located on the guns),
- tablet PCs (for each gun commander).
Elements are all interconnected by a wireless network. Using the position sensors, the commander will find out information about the position of the guns and their orientation. Then, at the command of the senior chief, the following data is entered: type of target, type of weapon, type of ammunition, etc., which are necessary to complete the task. The battery commander can send a message to the tablet PC at any time, so he will give a command to take a firing position. It is worth noting that the system can determine the coordinates and issue maps in many countries of the world.
At the moment, it is known that the unit of the National Armed Forces of Afghanistan has already acquired a new Ukrainian computerized fire control system UBLFDS. About 300 sets of USU OBU were handed over to the Afghan army, where they are successfully used for firing from 122-mm D-30 howitzers. The Ukrainian command of the Armed Forces is conducting its own tests of the Ukrainian news and already intends to purchase 500 UBLFDS fire control systems in the coming months.
Read more at http://eizvestia.com/armiya/full/411-kompyuterizirovannaya-sistema-upravleniya-o
gnem-usu-obu-ublfds

[Aibolit64]

The stupidity of the Krajin engineers and the desire to create another child prodigy has already surpassed the desire of Ukrainian politicians to lick the fifth point of the bhabama.

[Denis]

Quote: Aibolit64

Stupidity of Krajin Engineers

These guys know a lot about perversions. For example, dynamic protection

And here is just a parade of freaks
http://rossiya-ukraina.livejournal.com/2617894.html
and part two
http://rossiya-ukraina.livejournal.com/2514444.html

[Gray 43]

Well, that's it, the most honest ukroprapora will overstrain, before this monster will be sold to the militia, although the "NATO" ammunition does not contribute to the excitement of buyers

[sharp-lad]

AGS 30 is closer to my heart.

[Ivanhoe]

all this is the last century !!! dill had to immediately develop blasters and photonic shells !!!

[datur]

spoiled version of the Amer grenade launcher !!!!

[Cristall]

perverted yes - they try it right, they create, yes - war need makes it all done.
I am sure that they will finalize ..
And the Lenin Forge not only produces grenade launchers. Gyurza's boats are also their job. A good boat for the Danube and coastal activities. In particular, for the Sea of ​​Azov.
As for the name - in Ukraine they do not change the names of plants and factories. It is at least silly to redo documents.
So the plant named after Malyshev and the Lenin Forge and the parks of the Lenin Komsomol as well as the streets of Zhukov and Malinovsky and other marshals. Even military schools continue to write Soviet medals in the title (Suovrova, Kutuzova, etc.).
Naval College named after A.I. Marinesco
Odessa National Maritime Academy has not changed its name. In general, it’s stupid to think that in Ukraine, all at once rushed to change something in history, names. Also an ifnoyna element, but are you all waiting for the Lenin Forge to change its name?
In general, they try it too. Weapons are needed right now. 23 years disarmed .. now pecked ..

[vespe_rawr]

It looks too artisanal.

[76rtbr]

Quote: Denis

http://rossiya-ukraina.livejournal.com/2617894.html
and part two
http://rossiya-ukraina.livejournal.com/2514444.html

some specimens already look like grave fences !!!

[Zomanus]

Yes border hell with him. Ammunition for him where they will rivet? They have all the ammunition that they are now fighting from Soviet storage depots. Well, most of it at least. So without maza.