NATO: Peskov's statements about Ukraine are cut off from reality

NATO spokeswoman Oana Lungesku said that Russia's demands for a guarantee of Ukraine’s non-alignment with the alliance had surprised its leadership. According to her, back in 2010, Ukraine made a decision on non-blocking status, which remains in force until now.

Earlier, presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov complained that Russia has no guarantee that Ukraine will not join NATO. At the same time, he accused the Western countries in an attempt to "upset the balance of forces."

According to Oana Lungesku, Peskov’s statement is divorced from reality.

In turn, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Ukraine is a sovereign state that will decide on joining NATO on its own.

“I think it is necessary to remind our Russian colleagues that Ukraine is a sovereign and independent state. Only the Ukrainians themselves can decide which way their country will go, and which organizations it will join. We do not need someone's prompting from outside, and also we will not tolerate any pressure on these issues, ”Yevhen Perebiynis, press secretary of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, quotes. "Russian Air Service".

Perebiynis also said that Ukraine would like Russia to give guarantees that it would stop interfering in the internal affairs of the country, sending its army there and continuing to annex Ukrainian lands.

"Until now, Russia has not been able to provide such guarantees, and, although Moscow does not notice, this causes outrage throughout the world," he noted.

Comments

[kit-kat]

I kind of want to say some nasty things, but you understand that these creatures and the language of diplomacy do not understand the nasty things. Rather, they do not want to hear.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: kit-kat

I kind of want to say some nasty things, but you understand that these creatures and the language of diplomacy do not understand the nasty things. Rather, they do not want to hear.

what's the point? with adik, also signed a pact, so what? Did papers like this once work?

[Scoun]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

,So what ? Did papers like this once work?

Here it is .... Europeans look over and over again and say

that the demands of Russia to give guarantees that Ukraine will not join the alliance were surprising

About non block status ....

According to her, even in 2010 year Ukraine made a decision on non-aligned status, which remains in force until now.

They modestly keep silent as far back as February 2014, too, the papers were signed by the Ukrainian side and the European .. and how quickly the Europeans forgot about their obligations.

[afire]

let them stink ....
the main weapon is that our systematically replenished ....

[341712]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Andrey Yurievich (2) Today, 12: 11 ↑ New
Quote: kit-kat
I kind of want to say some nasty things, but you understand that these creatures and the language of diplomacy do not understand the nasty things. Rather, they do not want to hear.
what's the point? with adik, also signed a pact, so what? Did papers like this once work?

Only engage in dialogue with them through a high fence with a gun in his hand and a cartridge so that it is in the chamber ... and the fuse is lowered ...

[APES]

Quote: kit-kat

do not understand the language of diplomacy

their diplomacy simply boils down to the following:

"Let's do without mutual insults. Only I will insult."

[Max_Bauder]

That's the same thing, I want to say, but it's useless. Savages!

[Yu-81]

The answer is not really surprising at all. What is surprising is why Peskov needed to make such statements ... In this case, we act as some kind of base supplicants - "please guarantee us ..." You might think that we are afraid that this will happen. Somehow not very much from such a position ...

Of course, maybe it’s some kind of such a delicate move, but his motives then, to me, are completely incomprehensible to me ..

[Giant thought]

You yourself in NATO are divorced from reality, but push us all.

[Stanislav 1978]

Quote: Giant thought

You yourself in NATO are divorced from reality, but push us all.

They understand and see everything, but their task is to bring their troops closer to the borders of Russia as close as possible, and they will do everything to fulfill this task. And they make their official answers for their citizens, in order to calm them down and not escalate the situation.

[Abbra]

Is this Mr. Lugnescu, as I understand it, Moldovan, or Romanian? Well, what kind of smart they suddenly became, in the desire to lick one place from NATO and the USA! Strategists, ep ...

[Owl27]

This is a woman.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Owl27

This is a woman.

there it does not care ... unisex you know ...

[Abbra]

I apologize. Then do not lick, but suck. I apologize for being rude.

[Kamov]

Romanian...

[Fire]

While America lives! will live the LODGE AND the mess! draw conclusions gentlemen

[Penelope]

Does this Romanian herself even understand anything about this?

[Tatar 174]

Quote: Fire

While America lives! will live the LODGE AND the mess! draw conclusions gentlemen

The old leader has long concluded: the United States must be destroyed! We agree with him.

[gridasov]

This means that we also live in these conditions. Now the confrontation is not just between countries and economies, but the confrontation between the worldview and cultures of world perception. This means that the more "dirt" is from them, the "cleaner" we must become.

[Vladimirets]

"NATO spokesman Oana Lungescu said that Russia's demands to give guarantees that Ukraine will not join the alliance surprised his leadership. According to her, back in 2010, Ukraine made a decision on non-aligned status, which is still in force."

What kind of mistrust Russia is, well, the Khokrainians said: "I swear by my mother," what other guarantees should there be?

[wladimir]

and NATO and ukrofashisty!

[sever.56]

Perebiynis - lost his brain! Since when is Ukraine a "sovereign and independent" state? Now Biden will arrive and explain who is the boss!

[Dreamwriter]

Perebyinis will be interrupted

[Fidget]

Only Ukrainians themselves can decide which way their country will go and in which organizations it will join.

yeah how so! yourself ... =)
they have already decided ... on rolling blackouts and "civilized" prices for housing and communal services =)))

[vdtomsk]

Sofya Kvyatkovskaya Aug 25, 2014 at 8:53 am

Thank you, Maidan, for the lost Crimea,
Because we don’t sleep from the shots at night,
Because the Slavs shoot at the Slavs -
For everything, I am grateful to you, Maidan. Thank,
Maidan, for the crying of mothers,
That in peacetime children are buried,
For the fact that fighting, like in a movie, is awake.
Thank you, Maidan, for the Third War.
Thank you, Maidan, for fascism and Nazism,
For a "better life", for sadism, terrorism.
Thank you for the "honest government"
And for the great-grandfather’s feat trampled into the mud.
Damn, Maidan, for the lost Crimea,
Because we don’t sleep from the shots at night,
Because the Slavs shoot the Slavs,
Burn in Hell, who arranged the Maidan ...

[gridasov]

The intellectual potential of the Ukrainian leaders is so low, and the European leaders are so two-faced and cynical, that this allows the formation of "multi-step" situations without any difficulties. They still do not realize that they are their own creators of their problems. Therefore, the main thing is not to break loose and start playing by their rules. The only thing that can be pointed out in reproach to the Russian authorities is that the war was allowed in their ancestral territories. It's time to wage war on enemy territories with the hands of idiots, not our own. This is something you can learn from the Americans.

[Victor-M]

In turn, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Ukraine is a sovereign state that will decide on joining NATO on its own.

It is interesting in what borders Ukraine is going to join NATO, probably in the same in which in reality has sovereignty. None !!!

[_my opinion]

... We do not need anyone’s clues from the outside, and we also won’t tolerate any pressure on these issues ...

yes nuuuu, the Americans are turning you around as they want and you are looking into their mouths, they will order you to join NATO, run away without hesitation ... you sold your independence for cookies.

[Ruswolf]

I don’t know how else to express my indignation over all these Ukrainian troubles and shifts in the EU “phase” ... Probably with the only phrase:
It’s time to put Europe in the position that they are striving for .....!
Otherwise, all this "kitchen" will not end.

[wasjasibirjac]

it's funny, but the NATO representative knows about the intention of the "Great Ukrainians" to join NATO, or is it such a secret that she was not entrusted with it.

[gridasov]

Here read the words of Gontareva, the head of the nat. Bank “Devaluation is now 100%. At the last moment, business panic began. Even after the devaluation by 50% in July, we managed to stabilize the situation, but then the war started, ”V. Gontareva said. However, the head of the National Bank expressed the hope that the situation could improve when panic in Ukraine stops. “For them, war is something accidental and happening in itself. They cannot even understand who and what caused the economic collapse. Business is no longer talking about panic. says “Everyone is intelligently diversifying their business. And it is known in what, where or how, so as not to pay money to this government.

[vdtomsk]

SOURCE: beriozka_rus
10-year-old boy - Lev Protasov from Yekaterinburg wrote a poem that caused a storm of emotions among teachers and readers. You read it slowly, and then reflect on what books, toys, films, cartoons, you need to educate your children so that they write such masterpieces at 10 years old, have such a high level of awareness in their lives and feel personal responsibility for the fate of their homeland ?

Still small, but I can judge
And no one will blame me -
There is no country more beautiful than Russia!
I know this conclusion in advance!
I grow up - I travel the world.
And I'm sure, to the shores of the Native,
There will be an irresistible craving
Though from where - but I will return to them!
Because I'm Russian in Spirit!
Because Russia is my Earth!
Because My Mother is a Slav
And she gave birth to me in Russia!
Because here is my home and school!
Grandfather, Father and all my friends,
Russian, beloved Nature,
Speech dear, here is my family!
Because my great-grandfather by blood
For our Russia - laid down in the land!
The feat of our warrior heroes
I know - not one people remembers!
From the brown plague to the whole Earth
Russian soldiers saved.
The feat is not subject to their oblivion.
I will bow them to the waist to the ground!
"Dogs" now bark at Mother Russia
Together with her I will accept this pain.
I will grow, get stronger, mature
And you, Dear, I will help!
You got a little sick right now
Nothing, Russian, be strong!
Hope for me as before
Don't give up, Mother - hold on!
Will you rise - great and mighty
You’ll bloom like an apple tree in spring!
For me you will be the best!
The most beloved and Native!

It is a pity that even in adulthood, not everyone can love their land and homeland so much.

[Owl27]

Thank you baby! His soul is not muddied by anything! It’s embarrassing for adults today to love their homeland, ashamed to confess this love and ashamed to be a patriot.
The mouth of the baby .....

[Rock2]

Thanks a little! Just thank you, let everything be fine with him !!!

[bmv04636]

Ukraine will join NATO but without gifts presented to it by Russia and the Soviet Union (which it does not recognize under the current government, which means it does not recognize it either)

[rotmistr60]

“I think it is necessary to remind our Russian colleagues that Ukraine is a sovereign and independent state.

If only they wouldn’t lie to themselves here. Ukraine and independence are two polar concepts. One who licks a western boot, by definition, cannot be independent.

[zero12005]

Quote: Vladimirets

"NATO spokesman Oana Lungescu said that Russia's demands to give guarantees that Ukraine will not join the alliance surprised his leadership. According to her, back in 2010, Ukraine made a decision on non-aligned status, which is still in force."
What kind of mistrust Russia is, well, the Khokrainians said: "I swear by my mother," what other guarantees should there be?

Let's analyze? Russia, through the press secretary of the President, not the President himself, mind you, requested guarantees (for VVP knows the price of these guarantees, and if he forgets, Yanukovych calls him and reminds him). The NATO functionaries bought, and laid out all their intentions in Aesop's language, they say, we are not responsible for this, "I am innocent, she herself, etc." The next message to idiots from the EU and NATO, from Lavrov: - "The Treaty on Conventional Arms in Europe is dead for us!" Conclusion: - Gentlemen's hands are untied! We will act from the point of view of our interests, and who did not hide?! ... Live and be afraid, because in your community of "fat cats" you have something to lose, and we, as teaches proletarian wisdom: -Nothing but your chains! Long live the Red Army and Russia!

[aikon1974]

Somewhere we already heard it, about 25 years ago. That some countries will not join NATO. Bottom line, NATO is on our borders.

[P-38]

Frankly, I do not understand this statement of Peskov - why is it? What guarantees? From NATO ?! From Ukraine ?! It’s ridiculous. A guarantee should be the threat of retaliatory action by Russia - that's all. And such statements, it seems to me, only substitute us. Maybe I'm wrong?

[ALABAY45]

"Ukraine made a decision on non-aligned status, which remains in force until now"
And what's the use ?! All the same schimitsya in NATO, as naked on ....! Moreover, Ukraine has not made any decisions for a long time. The "tanned" does it for her ...

[Sergey Medvedev]

The conclusion is as follows: Peskov proposed in exchange for a guarantee of Ukraine’s non-entry into NATO to maintain the current state of affairs. But NATO refused. Now we need to take Kiev, since NATO is not ready for compromise.

[P-38]

Quote: Sergei Medvedev

Peskov proposed in exchange for a guarantee of Ukraine’s non-entry into NATO to maintain the current state of affairs. But NATO refused.

Perhaps you are right, I did not consider this option. Thank you.

[BOB044]

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said that Ukraine is a sovereign state that will decide on joining NATO independently. We have found an independent state, do not tell. You don’t go to a toilet without permission from the United States, but then make your own decision. LAUGHTER and only.

[pexotinec]

I think it is necessary to remind our Russian colleagues that Ukraine is a sovereign and independent state. Only Ukrainians themselves can decide

What sovereignty? What kind of independence? After all, you cannot make Shtat puppets a step without the permission of the owners.

[sazhka4]

Important. Almost. official response and not a press secretary. But now there is something to talk about and bargain .. Politics ..

[aszzz888]

[quote] “I think it is necessary to remind our Russian colleagues that Ukraine is a sovereign and independent state [[quote]

Yeah, let's go, said the deaf and dumb blind ...

[Serrrrgo]

I don’t understand our diplomats either, the West violates any agreements without even straining, it makes sense to demand some kind of guarantee from them.

[yawa]

I rarely write, but I can’t help myself - what is sovereign and independent in figs, Ukrainians, aren't you funny? You already disgraced the whole world with your intelligence and army, you cannot take a step without the approval of the s, look at yourself from the outside - after all, you constantly ask for something no matter who - what independence can you talk about?

[mikh-korsakov]

Ukraine in NATO - medium-range missiles to Europe.

[mamont5]

And the statements of NATO and its dill lackeys are generally not from this world.

[Major Yurik]

Quote: Owl27

This is a woman.

??? In geyrop, this statement is not so clear!

[lukke]

Quote: P-38

Frankly, I do not understand this statement of Peskov - why is it? What guarantees? From NATO ?! From Ukraine ?! It’s ridiculous. A guarantee should be the threat of retaliatory action by Russia - that's all. And such statements, it seems to me, only substitute us. Maybe I'm wrong?

moreover, we were sent to hell in a diplomatic language, emphasizing that Ukraine is a sovereign state and itself determines its foreign policy. De juro - you will not dig in. And we always emphasize that we respect the choice of our neighbors)). And what "NATO guarantees" did Mr. Peskov want ?! Accuse him of naivety ?! Something inevitable is brewing in the South-East (and maybe most of Ukraine), it seems to me ... the GDP was not heard by the Anglo-Saxons and now preparations are underway - we have nothing to lose, or rather, our adherence to civilized principles leads to big losses every time for us.

[Gray 43]

"Independent Ukraine" ???! Nah, I haven't heard ...

[Captain45]

"NATO spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said Russia’s demands for a guarantee of Ukraine’s non-membership in the alliance were surprising to its leadership."
Judging by the surname originally from Romania. In general, as in a joke:
"Stirlitz got up from Pozaranka and pulled the Curtain."
Where do they get such smart ones? Really in the EU?

[Drunya]

not mine, stub.

It seems we can not avoid new sanctions.
Nevertheless, they understand WHO and this is also to blame! )))

[Wolka]

it used to be in the USSR they used to say at the table in the kitchen: "they either join the ha ... but, or the party", and now apparently they also join NATO ...

[Russian hacker]

Ukraine is a sovereign and independent state

this is disputed.

Russia intervenes in the internal affairs of the country, sending its army there and continuing to annex Ukrainian lands.

and that too.

let anyone ask them the question of when exactly the international court established this "fact".

[Russian hacker]

But what is actually so concerned about the possible entry of Ukraine into NATO?
for God's sake - let them join. Who will be worse from this besides NATO themselves? Let NATO stay with such a "sovereign and independent state like Ukraine." Let them get acquainted with the Ukrainian mentality.

[Tima]

"Until now, Russia has not been able to provide such guarantees, and, although Moscow does not notice, this causes outrage throughout the world," he noted.


A bunch of Euronaturals is not the whole world. It's just a bunch!

[Abbra]

Quote: Abbra

I apologize. Then do not lick, but from ... I apologize for the rudeness.

[pvv113]

The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry stated that Ukraine is a sovereign state that will decide on joining NATO independently

Russia is also a sovereign state that can make an independent decision on Ukraine’s non-entry into NATO

[mgfly]

ON (crap) THAT burns))) reminds a childish "-! -Sam! .." with their "out of touch with reality"
Perebiynis is also not lagging behind, "we are sovereign and we don't need any prompts from anyone"! Russian diplomats need to take note of this phrase and with each "Russia should ...", "Russia should ...", "Russia is better", etc. reply with a quote "we do not need advice and tips from the outside")))

[Alexey RA]

I think it is necessary to remind our Russian colleagues that Ukraine is a sovereign and independent state.

Well, Porechenkov thought so at first too.

[vovan089]

So the Gypsy-Romanian-Moldavian "psaki" jumped out from NATO with "their" opinion. Funny and sad.

[gridasov]

The Ukrainian authorities need to be made aware that within the territories that they own, but which were the property of the Soviet Union and for which millions of people fell victims, they actually do not belong. It is not worth blaming only those who did not take the opportunity to make the new country prosperous and strong. It is also worth blaming those who allowed the collapse of a huge country, which was and which has a legal inheritance. Russia should be and will be an empire. This is not a dream; it is a rational necessity. After all, a collective farm is a concentration of combined efforts aimed at survival, if you like. Neither Europe, nor China, nor the Americans will ever be friends. And if they do, it’s only to their advantage. As long as Russia is strong, until then the Slavic world will not be enslaved. The names have changed, but the essence of the processes has not changed.