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Leonid Nersisyan. Strategic aviation flights of Russia - hit the pocket of NATO countries

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Leonid Nersisyan. Strategic aviation flights of Russia - hit the pocket of NATO countries


Frequent flights of the Russian strategic aviation near the borders of NATO countries caused a rather sharp reaction. Headlines about this do not slip off the pages of Western newspapers, and on November 17, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg expressed concern that the flights of Russian bombers are dangerous for civil aviation, as Russian pilots do not communicate with civilian controllers. Russian President Vladimir Putin said that more frequent flights are Russia's response to US activity near the borders of our country. If the reaction of European and American newspapermen is quite understandable - who will deny themselves the opportunity to scare ordinary people with myths about a resurgent "nuclear bear", then the nervousness of Western officials raises some questions.

To begin with, there has never been a single incident affecting civil aviation connected with Soviet or Russian strategic aviation, although during Soviet times the flight intensity was much higher than now. At the same time, at least 2 of a NATO fighter was lost during conditional interceptions of Soviet Tu-95. So the words of Jens Stolenberg are not very wealthy. Nervousness can be explained by two reasons.

1) Many European countries and their inhabitants have lost the habit of thinking that they can be targeted by such formidable cars as the Tu-95 and Tu-160. Even theoretically. Therefore, strategic bombers flying close by, carrying the 8 (Tu-95MS) to 12 (Tu-160) X-55 cruise missiles with nuclear warheads, cause a nervous tick from the authorities of some states.

2) A more practical reason - the interception of bombers flying close to the airspace of the NATO countries is a very expensive resource of gliders and fighter engines.

Here it is worth paying attention to one detail. Resource gliders strategic bombers is very large - they were originally designed for long flights over great distances. With the fact that the “youngest” Tu-95MS is already 22 of the year (the Tu-95 line was made from 1955 to 1992 a year), these planes will fly at least 20 years at the current flight intensity. Although their design is not new - the plane is very noisy, noticeable for radars and subsonic, but it can carry out its tasks for many more years. After all, in fact, the Tu-95 is the carrier for strategic cruise missiles. Now X-55CM missiles are used, with a flight range of up to 3500 km, and soon after upgrading, the Tu-95 and Tu-160 will take on board the X-101 CR (nuclear-powered 102), with a launch range of up to 5500 km and circular the deviation of the entire 10 meters, which will allow also to deliver high-precision non-nuclear strikes. In fact, the aircraft at the time of the launch of the missiles may be very far from the fighter aircraft and air defense of the enemy, therefore, outstanding flight characteristics are not needed. As for the fighters - their resource is noticeably less than that of strategic aviation. For example, the glider resource of the most common NATO fighter F-16 is 8000 hours, for F-18 - 6000 hours. Most of the released fighters of this class, like the F-15, are already close to a complete depletion of the airframe resource.

For example, Canada, often “terrorized” by Tu-95 and Tu-160, has 79 CF-18 fighters, which are far from the first freshness. Each departure of these machines, and even with the use of afterburner engines (to catch the interception time) and in cold conditions, brings the end of these machines closer. A replacement in the form of still “raw” F-35 is very expensive, and it is not yet known when it will actually go into service. The same scheme works with other countries.

Particularly "annoying" may be the Tu-160, which may offer to "play" in the race at supersonic and at high altitudes. So, the response to the activation of the US forces near the borders of Russia is quite adequate - it carries both symmetry and asymmetry - a real blow to the pocket of the countries of the NATO bloc.
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  1. Performance
    Performance 19 November 2014 18: 59
    +9
    So do they fly around Europe or with nuclear warheads? Or let them guess?
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 19 November 2014 19: 03
      +16
      We have planned flights, and NATO in a hurry soared and afterburned, well, they ruin their cars, which we contemplate with great pleasure.
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 19 November 2014 22: 13
        +6
        Quote: Giant thought
        We have planned flights, and NATO in a hurry soared and afterburned, well, they ruin their cars, which we contemplate with great pleasure.

        if so, then besides deterrence, there is another practical benefit! laughing
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    3. Serzh73
      Serzh73 19 November 2014 19: 11
      +21
      Quote: Efficiency
      So do they fly around Europe or with nuclear warheads? Or let them guess?
      1. Silkway0026
        Silkway0026 19 November 2014 21: 14
        +16
        let yourself guess
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      3. Former tank crew
        Former tank crew 19 November 2014 21: 16
        +19
        Or so ...
        Quote: Serzh73
        Quote: Efficiency
        So do they fly around Europe or with nuclear warheads? Or let them guess?
      4. bmv04636
        bmv04636 20 November 2014 08: 46
        +3
        why the euro is afraid of the collective farmers, the light elves seem to have lost their vigorous bombs over the euro collective farm more than once. One of the cases:
        In January 1966, over the Spanish village of Palomares, while refueling in the air, at an altitude of 9000 meters, an American B-52 bomber and a KC-135 tanker collided. The planes instantly turned into one giant flaming ball, and meanwhile, there were four hydrogen bombs aboard the B-52. For some reason, one of them, safe and sound, fell in a field near the village. Non-nuclear fuses detonated two more, and fragments of the bomb, along with plutonium dust, arranged a small radioactive rain at the crash site. The fourth one fell off the coast, but where exactly? It is worth noting that the power of this lost bomb is 1000 times higher than the power of the one that leveled Hiroshima to the ground.
    4. skeket
      skeket 19 November 2014 19: 14
      +3
      Of course, without special charges, otherwise they would have started a tantrum there, but no one can be 100% sure of this. That’s why the probable opponent is nervous
      1. Performance
        Performance 19 November 2014 19: 24
        +3
        Why asked - all of our messages on the subject of YES flights are somehow uncertain, as if we ourselves were embarrassed by this.
        1. alex-s
          alex-s 19 November 2014 19: 34
          +5
          No need to be shy, no one will know
          We will break, it happens
          Funny cookie, of course, Limp Bizkit,
          Let's have fun, leave in English. laughing
        2. Ratmir
          Ratmir 19 November 2014 20: 22
          +3
          We are not shy, we are just very modest ...
          A modest country, with modest pilots of strategic nuclear bombers on board ...
          And then modesty adorns repeat
      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 19 November 2014 20: 36
        +7
        So do not be sure ....... It’s the same as a missile submarine went on combat patrol (autonomous) without missiles .... What's the point?
    5. Iline
      Iline 19 November 2014 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: Efficiency
      So do they fly around Europe or with nuclear warheads? Or let them guess?

      They fly with training missiles, but carry out tactical launches (they differ from the real ones only in the launch of missiles).
      1. Kostyar
        Kostyar 19 November 2014 20: 35
        +2
        And let the Europeans think, weigh the pros and cons, before provoking Russia ..... we are not even Iran, whom they had so recently been so afraid of ...., I feel sorry for them and they use it, jackals !! !
  2. Finches
    Finches 19 November 2014 19: 00
    +8
    About fuel, it was also necessary to emphasize when fighter jets turn on afterburner! They start eating at times more, but a decent expenditure of money!
    Yeltsin, about the dead, either good or nothing, he did not manage to cut everything for the Americans in the early 90's! And they even came to the disarmament negotiations with the Bulgarians, that's how they were afraid of our missile carriers! After all, they themselves could not create anything like that!
    1. Iline
      Iline 19 November 2014 20: 25
      0
      Quote: Finches
      Bearing from 8 (Tu-95MS) to 12 (Tu-160) X-55 cruise missiles with nuclear warheads

      The author is not in the subject. It is necessary to write "carrying on themselves from 6 (Tu-95MS) to 16 (Tu-95MS) (6 in the cargo bay, 10 on four external suspensions of X-55 cruise missiles with nuclear warheads. Tu-160 can carry up to 12 missiles (two cargo compartment for 6 missiles).
      Quote: Finches
      About fuel, it was still necessary to emphasize when fighters turn on boost!

      When the Tu-160 at such a distance from its shores turns on the afterburner, then it has a very high probability of not returning to base due to lack of fuel. The author needs to be more careful in his "Wishlist".
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 19 November 2014 23: 38
        +1
        And Cuba, and Venezuela? Soon there will be other opportunities to deploy jump airfields!
    2. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 19 November 2014 22: 05
      0
      Gorbachev began to cut vashcheto, Yeltsin stupidly swell all
  3. Denis fj
    Denis fj 19 November 2014 19: 01
    +8
    Everything is being done correctly. Along the way, air defense systems are being "revealed".
  4. Sharky
    Sharky 19 November 2014 19: 01
    +8
    Everything is right! The mongrels are yapping - the caravan is coming! Western partners wanted to nightmare Russia without consequences with all sorts of sanctions there and then sit out in tikhari? No, that won't work!
  5. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 19 November 2014 19: 02
    +17
    Of course all sorts of shaved-n, Indos tear down tons of bricks when suddenly our bombers find themselves approaching their borders (despite the fact that it is so big and noisy, it is not so easy to find - when designing the same Tu-160 a set of measures to reduce ESR). Fighters, including the latest F-22 Raptor, pick up interceptors. The advantage is that the fighter’s resource is several times less than the bomber’s resource, the departure cost is higher, especially for the F-22, which has an 44 of thousands of dollars per hour of flight and damages the precious anti-radar coating that needs to be restored after the plane takes off. Since supersonic for the same Tu-160 is one of the normal flight modes (that is, propulsors can perform a long flight on afterburner) and it can fly in supersound for a long time, and for most fighters (all 4 generation and younger) supersonic is afterburner, then fighters can accompany him for a very limited time, eating tons of kerosene and greatly wearing out the glider and engine. The Tu-95 in general turned out to be an ideal platform for airplanes that have been on combat duty for a long time - it has a lot of luck, it has a tremendous range, it can be refueling for more than a day, and a cruise missile launcher does not need high speed.
    1. Enot_33
      Enot_33 19 November 2014 19: 31
      -7
      you Lurk read less and more technical literature.
    2. gfs84
      gfs84 19 November 2014 19: 53
      +1
      Since supersonic for the same Tu-160 is one of the normal flight modes (that is, engines can perform a long flight in afterburner) and it can fly in supersonic for a long time, and for most fighters (all 4 generation and younger) supersonic is afterburner, then fighters can accompany him for a very limited time, eating tons of kerosene and greatly wearing out the glider and engine. The Tu-95 in general turned out to be an ideal platform for airplanes that have been on combat duty for a long time - it has a lot of luck, it has a tremendous range, it can be refueling for more than a day, and the cruise missile carrier does not need high speed.


      Why, "Strategists" when the "oldies" of the IL-20 do an excellent job with the task of "exhausting" the resource of NATO aviation, as well as with sucking the budget from such "colossus" of the economy as the Baltic states ...
      NATO Baltic patrol planes intercepted a Russian reconnaissance aircraft. This was reported in the official Twitter of the Latvian armed forces.

      “On November 188, CF-18 aircraft of the Baltic Air Patrol of NATO took off the alarm to intercept the Russian Il-20 military aircraft over the Baltic Sea,” the message reads.


      http://news.rambler.ru/27969598/
    3. Iline
      Iline 19 November 2014 20: 29
      +3
      Quote: Novel 1977
      with refueling can be in the air for more than a day

      The maximum crew of the Tu-95MS was in the air for 44 hours, the Tu-160 is much smaller.
    4. VadimSt
      VadimSt 19 November 2014 20: 52
      +5
      Looking at the 95th, there is an association with a barracuda (sea pike) patrolling its hunting area. Another would be their flock and - "Schaub we saw them on one leg, and they us with one eye!"
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 20 November 2014 11: 13
        +2
        Looking at the 95th, there is an association with a barracuda (sea pike) patrolling its hunting area. Another would be their flock and - "Schaub we saw them on one leg, and they us with one eye!"

        Did you mean that angle? I think the residents of geyrope and mattress, seeing such a "defile" will be a little shocked ... winked
        1. Performance
          Performance 20 November 2014 15: 29
          0
          In! Precisely, pleases! And it’s also not bad to put a barge on a joke in the Atalantics and have fun gigging it off the coast of Misty Albion!
  6. Denis fj
    Denis fj 19 November 2014 19: 02
    +12
    ..so Russian pilots do not contact civilian controllers

    You need to fly fully armed and report the bomb load to all European dispatchers, and more ..... laughing
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 19 November 2014 19: 15
      +1
      Keeping the enemy constantly in suspense is worth a lot.
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    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 19 November 2014 19: 24
      +25
      Well yes. In a monotonous voice, like at an airport on the air, inform dispatchers that "... a transcontinental liner with increased carrying capacity at an altitude of such and such, the air temperature overboard, such and such, makes a charter flight" around the corner "in order to monitor the air defense system of our wonderful friends for readiness them to emergencies related to the unplanned launch of several combat cruise missiles against conditional terrorists located on the territory of our dear friends.The commander of the ship is a first class pilot, lieutenant general of the Russian Air Force, hero of the Soviet Union, Li Xi Qing, familiar to some Vietnam veterans. belay belay belay
      1. Mstislav
        Mstislav 19 November 2014 20: 27
        +2
        As well as the right pilot Wa Si Lev.
      2. mad
        mad 19 November 2014 21: 18
        +2
        Quote: Black Colonel
        Well yes. In a monotonous voice like at the airport on air to inform dispatchers ...

        And preferably in Russian) let them get used)))

        ps "Russian" with a capital letter is not a typo wink
    4. Spnsr
      Spnsr 19 November 2014 22: 23
      +3
      Quote: Denis fj
      ..so Russian pilots do not contact civilian controllers

      You need to fly fully armed and report the bomb load to all European dispatchers, and more ..... laughing

      laughing
      yeah, houston, houston, i'm a nuclear bear, flew out for a walk with full bk, 6 with a vigorous warhead, 6 ordinary high-precision, as i understood, houston ... laughing laughing laughing
    5. Alf
      Alf 19 November 2014 22: 43
      +1
      Quote: denis fj
      .because Russian pilots do not contact civilian controllers

      You need to fly fully armed and report the bomb load to all European dispatchers, and more .....

      In this case, both the civilian dispatchers and the military foreigners will be guaranteed a kondraty.
  7. lord
    lord 19 November 2014 19: 11
    +13
    Oh, how are they not used to (or have they just lost the habit, have they forgotten?) Westerners receive a reply! That is, they are convinced that they are "masters of life" and they can do anything, but as soon as the "victim" does not agree with the role of the victim, and gives back, then howling and screeching to heaven immediately rises! They say "we, so good, correct, democratic and so on ..." "Oh, what a bad Russia, what a bad Putin - they don't agree with us, they don't want to become cancer and let their pants down, that's disgusting ..." But you just need to ignore their screams and screams of any attention, as they don't pay attention to the squealing pig, when they cut her!
    1. Warlock_r
      Warlock_r 20 November 2014 08: 09
      +1
      So everything is fine, the principle of kindergarten: whoever cried first is the victim.

      We have grown up a little, and are already looking not at the one who is crying, but at the one who is really to blame. And there - like that. request
    2. smart Fox
      smart Fox 20 November 2014 22: 06
      0
      Many European countries and their inhabitants are unaccustomed to the idea that they can be the target of such formidable cars,

      Nothing, let everyone remember, startle and ... begin to get used to it in a new way.
  8. basmach
    basmach 19 November 2014 19: 11
    +7
    In fact, even for simple maintenance of the piloting level, any pilot needs real flights and no simulator can replace them. In Soviet times, the annual flight of a front-line aviation pilot (if memory serves) should have been at least 80 hours. So such interceptions are just good and relatively free (no need to lift your imitation target into the air) training l / s. And for the aircraft there is an average and overhaul with a corresponding extension of the resource. In addition, news for the population, increased circulation of newspapers, additional work (and rustlers, of course) for all kinds of analysts and observers. In general, solid pluses for the population and the economy. So they still need to invoice for show services
    1. Haye
      Haye 19 November 2014 21: 23
      +4
      stainless steel rat revenge (fragment)

      You know how many millions your crime wave cost? The economy of Kamata ...

      “It won't suffer a bit.”
      The government will compensate the losses incurred by the affected institutions, and then, in turn, will deduct the same amount from its annual payments to the Special Corps, which still has more money than it can spend. Now evaluate the benefits in return. A lot of excitement for the population, an increase in the circulation of newspapers, exercises for overseas law enforcers - this is an interesting story in itself, as well as field maneuvers that brought great pleasure to all participants. What should be offended, on the contrary, they should have paid us a fee for making all these exciting things possible.
  9. Serzh73
    Serzh73 19 November 2014 19: 14
    +5
    Many European countries and their inhabitants are unaccustomed to the idea that they can be targeted by such formidable vehicles as the Tu-95 and Tu-160. Even theoretically. Therefore, strategic bombers flying nearby, carrying from 8 (Tu-95MS) to 12 (Tu-160) X-55 cruise missiles with nuclear warheads, are causing a nervous tick in the authorities of some states
    1. Pathfinder_II
      Pathfinder_II 19 November 2014 21: 49
      +5
      It would be nice to create a platform of long-range air-to-air missiles based on the Tu-95. A sort of strategic interceptor. It can go in a group with strategists, no different from them .. until a swarm of explosive missiles spills out of it. And each will rush to meet his fighter. lol
      Oh, the fantasy of something in my evening broke out ..
      Create missiles imitating strategists on the radar background and drive them along the borders of partners, simulate a massive departure of strategists.
      One aircraft can simulate a group of 9-17 aircraft.)
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 19 November 2014 22: 43
        +2
        Quote: PathFinder_II
        Oh, the fantasy of something in my evening broke out ..

        No, colleague, you just remembered the Tu-128!
  10. kiparis
    kiparis 19 November 2014 19: 22
    +2
    If there are so many pluses, then why are they whining?
  11. wolf7
    wolf7 19 November 2014 19: 24
    +3
    To starve away the ushlopkov, that in the near future it would not be enough to intercept, but to take off the resource, there weren’t enough sanctions, try it, don’t take off - you’ll get a cap, but you’ll fly out - the budget and the resource are wasted, because you still can’t catch up. In a situation! laughing
    1. Serzh73
      Serzh73 19 November 2014 19: 27
      +1
      "since you still can't catch up"
  12. Stinger
    Stinger 19 November 2014 19: 25
    +3
    There is a third reason. They do not give NATO pilots cultural rest. Have a drink, sit in a bar with local beauties
    1. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 19 November 2014 22: 08
      +3
      why do they need beauties? they are satisfying each other
  13. hrych
    hrych 19 November 2014 19: 26
    +2
    And also send more old Tu-154 and 134 as "false" targets, taking into account, of course, their modest range. To expose the foe, so to expose.
  14. nstarinsky
    nstarinsky 19 November 2014 19: 33
    +11
    The Canadian media once said that during the bombing of Libya, each sortie cost the Canadian Air Force an average of $ 10000 (ten thousand). I don't think it's cheaper for Russia. But for such a noble cause as shaking NATO's wallet, it seems, and not very sorry. A year ago, they screamed at every appearance of Russian aircraft near the Canadian border. And how much headache they get from the problem of open northern borders - there are simply no words ... If it suddenly turns out that some mysterious boats with an even more mysterious Russian flag are floating in the north of Canada, there is nothing to "intercept" them ... I read something like this in local newspapers: "... Yesterday, on a remote polar island in the Canadian northern archipelago, a neatly laid pile of shit was discovered. Traces leading to and from it disappear into the ocean ... Local aborigines report some mysterious North Deer coming from distant Russia ... "
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 19 November 2014 20: 10
      +3
      "... Local aborigines report about some mysterious Northern Deer coming from distant Russia ..."
      No, it’s the arctic fox that came, sniffed the road.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 19 November 2014 22: 53
        +3
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        No, it’s the arctic fox that came, sniffed the road.

        You are not talking about this ... SCRIPT talking? A familiar character!
      2. Ascetic
        Ascetic 19 November 2014 23: 19
        +3
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        No, it’s the arctic fox that came, sniffed the road.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 19 November 2014 23: 07
      +2
      Quote: nstarinsky
      If it suddenly turns out that some mysterious boats with an even more mysterious Russian flag are floating in the north of Canada, there is nothing to "intercept" them ...
  15. Serzh73
    Serzh73 19 November 2014 19: 36
    +3
    Quote: Penelope
    Keeping the enemy constantly in suspense is worth a lot.
    probably Professor
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 19 November 2014 20: 02
      +3
      Really KPASAVTSY !!! In Lipetsk we often have "air shows" from pilot training. When they work in pairs, it’s still awful!
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 19 November 2014 20: 18
        +3
        Quote: Kent0001
        Really KPASAVTSY !!! In Lipetsk we often have "air shows" from pilot training.

        only that Harchevsky did not suit the present air show. anywhere, but not in Lipetsk. But before what holiday was ...
  16. hedgehog in the fog
    hedgehog in the fog 19 November 2014 20: 09
    +3
    Quote: skeket
    Of course, without special charges, otherwise they would have started a tantrum there, but no one can be 100% sure of this. That’s why the probable opponent is nervous


    maybe I’ll tell you a secret, a strategist on combat duty, this is a combat unit, ready at any second to fulfill the order, then guess for yourself. what what what
  17. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 19 November 2014 20: 13
    -5
    There is no blow)
    Wrap up the theme for the post ...
    TU-95 flying is visible, as indicated in the article, in advance.
    Where to rush?
    And indeed all flights of such a plan are agreed upon in advance.
    Scare yourself?
    Well, maybe ..
    1. Alcoholic
      Alcoholic 19 November 2014 22: 04
      0
      I read all sorts of crap again)))
      We’ll start to think with our head or to throw caps with a hat?)))
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 19 November 2014 23: 03
      +2
      Quote: Alcoholic
      And indeed all flights of such a plan are agreed upon in advance.

      Nope. ONLY START ICBMs!
      That’s why 3,14ndos are so worried. It can also be a hidden deployment of strategic nuclear forces in a tense mn environment.
      Do not believe? Remember the B-52 over the Palamores!
      The "partners" have a simple logic: by analogy with their actions. Why not?
  18. Lukich
    Lukich 19 November 2014 20: 17
    +4
    maybe it’s our kind of sanction? it’s not cheap for them these sudden interceptions cost smile
  19. region58
    region58 19 November 2014 20: 17
    +5
    In the summer of Romania, they were very outraged about this, they say they have to spend the last fuel on intercepting Russian aircraft. They were very sad that even their airplanes were breathing their last breath, and here they still had to fly over the plan. Maybe, of course, they hinted to their sponsors that they would get some money and the technicians tossed, only in my opinion they did not hear anything. In general, we did not receive a letter where you ask to send money ...
  20. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 19 November 2014 20: 42
    +3
    And I liked it.... lost two planes at intercepts ........ This is all from a series about politeness! ... like the Crimea without a single shot ......... We have polite aviation .....- ours just fly, and adversaries just fall!
  21. kuz363
    kuz363 19 November 2014 20: 45
    +2
    It is a pity that the Ukrainians destroyed the TU-160, which were on their territory during the USSR.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 19 November 2014 21: 06
      0
      Quote: kuz363
      It is a pity that the Ukrainians destroyed the TU-160, which were on their territory during the USSR.

      It is a pity that Akim disappeared from the site (or finally disappeared - he was taken to the Armed Forces of Ukraine), he would justify the "correctness" of such an action.
    2. zhuk-51
      zhuk-51 20 November 2014 01: 39
      +2
      I remember that it seems that the 160x regiment took off to say goodbye to the sky and sat on the airfield in Russia.
  22. Yasondinalt
    Yasondinalt 19 November 2014 20: 55
    +1
    Let them get used to the fact that Russia is and will be.
  23. Urri
    Urri 19 November 2014 20: 56
    +3
    Required raid, Payment for the status of a strategic power. Busting the Romanian Poisser Interceptors is a nice bonus. Penguins will not pay for gypsies. This gypsies must pay for penguins
  24. DPN
    DPN 19 November 2014 21: 12
    +1
    Quote: Iline
    The author needs to be more careful in his "Wishlist".

    To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. While these birds fly, the population of Russia sleeps quietly.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 20 November 2014 11: 19
      +1
      To want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want. While these birds fly, the population of Russia sleeps quietly.

      In a nutshell - PICTURE OIL ... (clickable)
  25. Straight
    Straight 19 November 2014 21: 12
    +2
    It is necessary to fly with full arms, otherwise you never know what ...
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 19 November 2014 23: 14
      +1
      Quote: Direct
      It is necessary to fly with full arms, otherwise you never mind ..

      Do you know what they are flying with now? Well, then you are from the General Staff or at least the General Staff of the Air Force!
  26. DPN
    DPN 19 November 2014 21: 22
    +2
    Off-topic, all on the occasion of the ROCKET TROOPS and ARTILLERY, all health and good luck!
  27. PATTIY
    PATTIY 19 November 2014 21: 44
    +1
    Military and civilians fly at different echelons.
    Jens is as dumb as Fog. Or maybe they are Dumb & Dumber !! laughing
  28. Tribuns
    Tribuns 19 November 2014 21: 51
    +1
    "Bargaining is not appropriate here," Kisa Vorobyaninov would answer to the screams of NATO countries about the flight of our "swans" near their borders, "breathe deeper! You are excited!"
  29. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 19 November 2014 22: 22
    0
    it carries both symmetry and asymmetry Soon to start jumping, as in the country. But under the rumble of the engines of our strategists. There will be more gas and diapers for sale. We all have to fingernail. But alas, dreams so far ... what
  30. Brave
    Brave 19 November 2014 22: 47
    0
    An interesting thought, one I have not heard. Thank.
  31. mivail
    mivail 19 November 2014 22: 54
    0
    Interestingly, and who burns more kerosene, our strategist, while flies around the whole geyrope, or their small fighters. In theory, they take off, simulate an attack on a strategist and leave with a sense of accomplishment. And all the hype in the press is just a lure for the layman, just to remind once again what kind of Russian "insidious" and "bloodthirsty" beeches. But they are white and fluffy.
  32. opus
    opus 20 November 2014 01: 43
    +1
    Author "military observer" Leonid Nersisyan

    Again, all confused
    Quote: Author Leonid Nersisyan
    Therefore, strategic bombers flying nearby, carrying from 8 (Tu-95MS) to 12 (Tu-160) cruise missiles X-55 with nuclear warheads, cause the authorities of some states a nervous tick.

    long-range aviation commander Pavel Androsov:
    "Russian strategic bombers, which have recently resumed regular flights near the borders of NATO countries by the decision of President Vladimir Putin, fly without nuclear weapons on board. "
    Quote: Author Leonid Nersisyan
    2) A more practical reason is the interception of bombers flying near NATO airspace cost a very expensive resource for gliders and fighter engines.
    and blah, blah, blah about motor resources.
    1) Fly from Russia to America 5500 and 5500 back (minimum), to Europe (in a circle): 2500 there and 2500 back, 11000 / 900 =12 hours, 5000 / 900 = 5,5 hours
    2) Fighter to rise and intercept 300 + 300 = 600 / 900 40 MINUTES
    --a question to a "military expert": WHERE (Who) will the resource be developed faster?---
    Labor costs of ground personnel for 1 flight hour - 57 people / hour (Tu-95MS)
    Labor costs of ground personnel for 1 flight hour - 64 people / hour (Tu-160)

    And for the F-16 and F-18: let the "military expert" Leonid answer
    And the COST of "eaten" fuel?
    3) Unit cost, $ 34 million (F-16D Block 52), F / A-18E / F "Super Hornet" cost about $ 57 million. And "junk" is even cheaper
    Unit cost TU-160 6,0 — 7,5 billion rubles ($ 241 million), TU-95MS-KhZ (assuming $ 60mln)
    reference:Ukrainian simon_xii, sells it on ebay:

    1987 year, the flight time is 454 hours and 24 minutes. In case of purchase, the seller agrees to pay the cost of delivery of Tu-95MS to the port of Nikolaev or Odessa. It is especially noted that the plane is not ready to fly. For 3 000 000 $ fool
    BUT they will not sell to us for $ 3mln?
    4) Flight resource Tu-95 2500-5000 hours,I think that at TU-160, due to the specifics and because of NK-32 there will be less
    For your information: the average U.S. raid on B-1B is 150-200 hours per year
    Conclusion
    Quote: Author Leonid Nersisyan
    Resource Strategic Bomber Gliders very great - they were originally designed for long flights, over great distances.
    ...to put it mildly not very true
    1. opus
      opus 20 November 2014 01: 48
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      Quote: Author Leonid Nersisyan
      Each departure of these machines, and even with the use of afterburner engines (in order to catch the interception on time) and in cold conditions, nears the end of these machines.

      1. Why is the fast and the furious? They see him LONG, you can go to the toilet, drink coffee, get dressed and calmly take off
      INTERCEPTS (will) all the same with an air-to-air missile, and ONLY in your air
      space

      2.About "cold" conditions .. in Canada mean? SO AT AN ALTITUDE 10000m = -50grС, or even -60grС.
      IT DOESN’T IMPORTE WHERE THE FIGHTERS ARE BASED, even in the Sahara, on 10 000: -50 / 60грС
      Quote: Author Leonid Nersisyan
      Tu-160, which can offer to “play” the race at supersonic and at high altitudes.

      ?
      Full combat load? You can "play around" like that, that the fuel to the house is not enough
      TU-160
      Cruising = 950km / h
      In flight at a distance of 2000 km with a take-off mass of 275 t, an average speed of 1678 km / h and an altitude of 11 250 m were achieved.

      =================
      And so in general, "everything is correct" is written, they are afraid



      Americans are "strange" people .....

      [1938 year. The American radio station CBS aired the production of Herbert Wells' novel “War of the Worlds,” which director Orson Welles styled as a report from the Martians landing site.
      Over a million listeners accepted everything at face valueby skipping the corresponding warning at the very beginning of the broadcast. Hundreds of thousands of people barricaded themselves in the basements of their homes. Others, on the contrary, fled from the threat: traffic jams from New York and Philadelphia stretched almost a hundred kilometers.
  33. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 November 2014 02: 08
    +1
    So the answer to the activation of US forces at the borders of Russia is quite adequate - it carries both symmetry and asymmetry - a real blow to the pocket of NATO countries.

    We flew and we will fly. And let the west, which has lost a sense of proportion and reality, twitch. And Canada needs to be punished for its aggressive foreign policy towards Russia.
  34. Wolka
    Wolka 20 November 2014 05: 51
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    the Yankees and NATO is not Iraq and Syria to bomb with impunity ...
  35. stone
    stone 20 November 2014 10: 27
    +2
    For Opus, you are shaking the air for nothing. This article is written specifically for fans to leave hats together. It doesn’t occur to them to think who will spend the most money, a huge strategist flying half the world on engines, in the design of which efficiency was not considered a priority or an interceptor working in a certain area for a limited time. Moreover, if they really need to save so much, they may not even take off to intercept. Nothing will happen. Maybe we need to think about whether it is worth spending a lot of money. fellow
    1. opus
      opus 20 November 2014 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: stone
      For Opus, you are shaking the air for nothing

      To be honest, I'm not "shaking" anything.
      I read it, answered, it’s not difficult for me. There was a night time.
      Maybe the children (mine) will read.
      Well, I don’t want them to turn into thoughtless "zombies".
      I personally assume that the SAME (about 20 years ago) began to TREAT the neighboring country. It was on such articles of "military experts", "historical experts" and so on.
      The result is visible.
      BRAIN!!!! It is better to include it more often.
  36. gregor6549
    gregor6549 20 November 2014 13: 41
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    "Flights of Russian strategic aviation - a blow to the pockets of NATO countries"
    Of course, they hit the pocket they (flights) of these countries. But there is one "but".
    At the same time, they give rise to the defense industry of these countries to knock out a serious penny on the development and production of new weapons, as well as on the modernization of existing ones.
    Those. another arms race begins and there is no certainty that Russia will overtake all the other runners in this race. In addition, all these "demonstrations" often reveal to a potential enemy the performance characteristics of Russian weapons, which is not very useful to eat. How does it say? "Forewarned is forearmed". And the fact that "foreigners" are able to quickly respond to the emergence of new threats for them was demonstrated by them back in Vietnam, when in a very short time they were able to oppose the Soviet air defense systems with a whole system of technical organizational countermeasures (interference, anti-radar shells, pilot warning stations about radar exposure, tactics, etc.
    Why am I? And the fact that the pre-war "hype" does not always benefit the very "noisy" side. As a rule, it never goes.
    And the rumors that the probable opponent is frightened of such noise before losing consciousness are greatly exaggerated and, apart from the distributors of such rumors, they no longer enter into ecstasy.
    Again, counting someone else's money in someone else's pockets is also a dubious thing. They would have to learn how to earn money normally, to count, and to usefully spend.
    And then we’ll either buy Mistral’s useless for no one, or an unnecessary superfluous aircraft carrier to the Chinese, allegedly we sell it under a casino at the price of scrap metal, etc. And then we will try to sink the same aircraft carrier at any cost if it suddenly turns to Russia instead of the States. But it is possible
  37. Cynic
    Cynic 21 November 2014 17: 56
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    Unusual interpretation, thanks to the author!