Ukraine "successfully" failed at the Chinese air show

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The participation of the Ukrainian Ukroboronprom in the Chinese air show “Airshow China 2014” can be called extremely unsuccessful and even disastrous. His exposition did not enjoy popularity and did not test the influx of visitors, an armaments expert, a blogger writes in LiveJournal. Igor Korotchenko.



Ukrainian representatives simply loafed around the booth, not finding any classes for themselves, or gathered in a circle and discussed the sad ones. news from Square. “But the meeting room (it was also empty) was decorated with a large portrait of President Petro Poroshenko, now successfully serving as the grave-digger of the Ukrainian defense-industrial complex,” the expert notes.

According to him, China has long since sucked everything out of Ukraine, and now as a MTC partner, Beijing is no longer needed. “It is said that Antonov Design Bureau for some miserable couple of millions of dollars helped China to develop a military transport aircraft Y-20, although the real contract price could be about 20-30 million" green. " Is the same story happened to the DKVP (air-cushion landing craft) Zubr: technical documentation and know-how Ukraine sold to the Chinese for mere pennies, ”writes Korotchenko.






Ukraine "successfully" failed at the Chinese air show





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  1. +31
    18 November 2014 16: 47
    Well, rightly so.
    1. +57
      18 November 2014 16: 51
      ...... The frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" to the wrong collector ...... Should be black .... wink wassat
      1. Natalia
        +70
        18 November 2014 16: 53
        The whole of Ukro-Oboron_Prom is built on the Soviet legacy that they are so painstakingly trample into the mud.
        And they have nothing of their own.
        1. +16
          18 November 2014 16: 56
          How "nothing"? AND fat? Lost, apparently, or ate along the way ...
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            1. +9
              18 November 2014 18: 59
              hi
              It’s a pity, because young at all. He would live and live ...
          3. +9
            18 November 2014 17: 32
            Dear, SALO came to Ukraine from Italy.
          4. Denis fj
            +14
            18 November 2014 18: 01
            Quote: Genur
            How "nothing"? AND fat? Lost, apparently, or ate along the way ...


            They already learned how to make cakes from fat .......... laughing
            1. jjj
              +9
              18 November 2014 18: 16
              What a delicious brisket, however
              1. +6
                18 November 2014 18: 59
                Denis fj
                They already learned how to make cakes from fat ..........

                And what kind of cars in exchange for "Zaporozhets" and watches do! You will download! good
            2. +4
              18 November 2014 19: 17
              Quote: Denis fj
              Quote: Genur
              How "nothing"? AND fat? Lost, apparently, or ate along the way ...


              They already learned how to make cakes from fat .......... laughing

              I wouldn’t refuse such a cake !!! ..... and let someone from strange Ukraine sprinkle on my spit from anger at me ... laughing laughing laughingstill bear here with earflaps and a balalaika, and a couple of bottles. vodka laughing and that’s all, life was not lived in vain laughing
          5. +6
            18 November 2014 18: 39
            Quote: Genur
            How "nothing"? What about lard?

            they dropped bacon laughing
          6. +1
            18 November 2014 20: 41
            and lard is not Ukrainian product.
        2. +14
          18 November 2014 17: 29
          I dare to disagree with you Natalia. UkrOboronProm makes wonderful (according to their statement) furnaces.
          1. jjj
            +19
            18 November 2014 18: 18
            Advertising slogan for Ukrainian exposition:

            Our air defense is guaranteed to shoot down any passenger Boeing
            1. 0
              19 November 2014 00: 14
              No, they just have some words missing in the slogan.

              We don't care about the future
              We don't care about peace
              We care about war in Ukraine

              somehow
          2. +5
            18 November 2014 18: 43
            field crematoria or what? belay
        3. +4
          18 November 2014 17: 31
          Yes, there are bright minds there, God willing, the "Maydanneuropeyskaya" husk will subside, will serve their own and our peoples. I feel sorry for them, those who are out of politics, but tolerate from it ... Previously, they laughed at ideological workers, dispersed, depoliticized ... from it and kicked out ... the wrong books were read at the suggestion of "partners" ... sucked like a sponge. .. So the conclusions have not yet been made ... The process has begun, but "not only everyone can manage it effectively" ... both in education and in the media. They will not regret even their own military-industrial complex for the sake of politics ...
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        5. +12
          18 November 2014 17: 49
          Quote: Natalia
          And they have nothing of their own.

          You are only partially right. They have a lot of their own, but unfortunately no one will buy it. Well, who needs a robot reconnaissance with a control panel on a cable 5 meters long. Or who is looking for an armored personnel carrier, hung with bed nets or grilles removed from the windows?
          Right click on the picture and choose "Open Image".
          1. +2
            18 November 2014 20: 19
            Cool and horror! But dying is not scary with such protection! Like ostriches - a head in the sand, and does not see what ... deleted by the moderator ... do it! fool
          2. 0
            19 November 2014 13: 22
            Lattices, as I understand it, are used to ensure that no one gets insidelaughing wassat
          3. 0
            19 November 2014 15: 50
            now it’s clear where the armor nets from the beds have gone ...
        6. +5
          18 November 2014 17: 54
          Take a closer look at the flag on the "Ukrainian" transport. It's just a megafail, svidomye must die of a rupture, it is known what.
        7. +2
          18 November 2014 18: 28
          Quote: Natalia
          The whole of Ukro-Oboron_Prom is built on the Soviet legacy that they are so painstakingly trample into the mud.
          And they have nothing of their own.


          Yes, this is not even the case - his own or borrowed. There would be buyers. But ... after all, everyone understands that order Ukrainian equipment, and they will transfer it to their National Guard, or, in general, the country will not live up to the fulfillment of the contract. So what is the point of fussing if the other options are the sea.
        8. 0
          18 November 2014 20: 33
          And the catapults from the Maidan? Already two options!
      2. +9
        18 November 2014 16: 57
        Quote: aleks 62
        Frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" of the wrong collector

        Hmm, frame ... Why is the advertisement on the damn mov?
        1. +8
          18 November 2014 17: 38
          And the translation into English finally. In their opinion, dvigles are installed on the MIG-29 from above - how is this to be understood? An additional engine on the back or a concussion from a horse race on the Maidan?
      3. +3
        18 November 2014 17: 02
        And the UkrOboronProm logo is in the same frame ...
      4. +1
        18 November 2014 18: 32
        Quote: aleks 62
        ...... The frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" to the wrong collector ...... Should be black .... wink wassat

        not, with a ribbon of black color and a paddle for soaking sins ...
      5. +3
        18 November 2014 18: 38
        Quote: aleks 62
        . The frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" to the wrong collector ... Should be black ...

        to the next air show promised to correct
        1. 0
          19 November 2014 18: 53
          Will there be Outskirts by then? request
      6. news
        +3
        18 November 2014 18: 41
        here in the frame of pigs
      7. 0
        18 November 2014 19: 05
        No, the frame is good, just a black ribbon is not enough!
      8. gorge1945
        0
        18 November 2014 19: 08
        right, and with a black ribbon on the corner.
      9. +1
        18 November 2014 21: 21
        Nothing, soon the portrait will be removed, and Poroshenko himself will be hanged.
      10. +1
        18 November 2014 21: 21
        Nothing, soon the portrait will be removed, and Poroshenko himself will be hanged.
        1. 0
          19 November 2014 13: 27
          cons-for repetitions of the post, got the stators.
      11. TECHNOLOGY
        +2
        18 November 2014 22: 07
        ... The frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" to the wrong collector ... Should be black ... Grayish already. Soon it will turn black.
      12. +2
        18 November 2014 22: 18
        Quote: aleks 62
        ...... The frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" to the wrong collector ...... Should be black .... wink wassat


        The frame of norms. But the ribbon is not enough.

    2. +14
      18 November 2014 16: 52
      That's it! Such a reliable supplier and partner "disappears". And besides the pictures, nothing was brought ??? Well, a portrait of a pig could be hung with a price tag.
      1. +5
        18 November 2014 17: 01
        Clearly, failure, their main highlight, the catapult was not presented.
        1. Viktor Kudinov
          +2
          18 November 2014 17: 21
          Unclear: what Poroshenko is also for sale? But how can you sell again what is sold !!!? fool
      2. +4
        18 November 2014 18: 03
        UkrSpetsExport, apparently, finally sold out the entire Soviet legacy in the form of weapons and technology.
        UkrOboronProm sucked out all the capabilities of the Soviet models of military equipment, and some of them were finalized to complete absurdity. Noteworthy is a photograph of the proposal to repair aircraft engines for the Su-17, Su-24 and MiG-29 aircraft. Well, you can still hold on to this field, but these planes are aging and are being decommissioned not only in our country. What's next? And then - emptiness.
    3. +4
      18 November 2014 17: 14
      Who needs the products of a state that has collapsed its defense industry.
      1. +3
        18 November 2014 18: 00
        Who needs the products of a state that has collapsed its defense industry.

        I would rephrase who needs defense products, the secrets of which have long been sold to the Chinese. And what do they want to interest? request
    4. +1
      18 November 2014 17: 15
      Who needs the products of a state that has collapsed its defense industry.
    5. +4
      18 November 2014 17: 19
      And the airplane was designed and built on our grandmas. Stsuki.
    6. Denis fj
      +4
      18 November 2014 18: 06
      Quote: fzr1000
      Well, rightly so.


      And why the hell were you going? Pictures could also be faxed.
    7. +3
      18 November 2014 18: 28
      But who will contact them now? They refused all their deliveries, overturned all customers ...
    8. news
      +3
      18 November 2014 18: 52
      portrait of President Petro Poroshenko, now successfully serving as the grave digger of the Ukrainian defense industry
    9. 0
      18 November 2014 19: 06
      Gov nuks, all about shit !!!
      1. +2
        18 November 2014 20: 25
        They have such a mentality - “I will bite if I don’t eat”! good
  2. +19
    18 November 2014 16: 47
    A good phrase, instructive "China has sucked everything out of Ukraine."
    1. +4
      18 November 2014 17: 06
      And it all started with the sale of "Varyag" at the price of scrap metal, as they were cheap and remained!
    2. +20
      18 November 2014 17: 45
      Sucked)))
      1. +1
        18 November 2014 18: 57
        Bravo! just wonderful!
      2. +1
        18 November 2014 20: 28
        In common Russian they are called "Dunkin's joy" (or "Dunka's joy")! Suck and rejoice ... good
  3. kelevra
    +6
    18 November 2014 16: 48
    They themselves have spoiled everything, now let them think about whom their president works for and who sold the technology to the Chinese for pennies!
  4. +9
    18 November 2014 16: 48
    Quote book Klitschko would have quickly sold out)))))))
  5. +13
    18 November 2014 16: 48
    and which of the Ukrainian presented in the article?
    The komunyaki made all these oaths
    1. +12
      18 November 2014 16: 50
      The komunyaki made all these oaths

      Yes, they can only shoot down passenger planes.
      1. 0
        18 November 2014 20: 32
        No, there is a purely marginal invention, no one in the world has thought of producing "Fat in chocolate"! good
  6. +5
    18 November 2014 16: 48
    Nothing, they will soon ask: Ukraine is where and who? These are probably the ones who galloped ...
  7. +7
    18 November 2014 16: 49
    No shame, no conscience. Our grandfathers and fathers created the power of our homeland, and the Kheyropeyts sold everything and betrayed for 30 pieces of silver.
  8. +9
    18 November 2014 16: 49
    It was necessary to put the fools from the "Femen" on the podium in full combat gear! Success is not a success, but a scandal, and therefore advertising would be good for Ukraine! laughing
    1. +4
      18 November 2014 17: 41
      Quote: Finches
      You should have put femen fools on the podium in full combat gear

      That is, in its complete absence?wassat
  9. +9
    18 November 2014 16: 51
    Khokhla Chinese cheated? Why is this being done?
  10. +4
    18 November 2014 16: 51
    This portrait of a pig, as a requiem for Ukraine ...
  11. +9
    18 November 2014 16: 52
    Ukraine is tired of its stupid routine, it takes up too much space in the life of each of us, it is already starting to stink.
    Failed at the Chinese air show, well, rightly so!
    1. +16
      18 November 2014 17: 17
      Quote: tomcat117
      Failed at the Chinese air show, well, rightly so!


      Yes, that’s true, but still, somewhere
    2. 0
      19 November 2014 19: 23
      Excellent, by the way, said! "The stupid, stinking routine of Urkaina" - very accurately
  12. +9
    18 November 2014 16: 53
    I'll go and pour "for the peace" of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex.
  13. +6
    18 November 2014 16: 54
    heh ... I'm not gloating, but I think that the states will completely ditch the remnants of the defense complex of dill, and with dill hands ... not because they are afraid of something like "competition", so that in the future RUSSIA will not get it ..
  14. +6
    18 November 2014 16: 54
    Sad It's a shame for the Slavs. And they themselves were cheated, and they cheated on Russia.
    1. 0
      18 November 2014 20: 37
      It’s like in a joke: an outskirts boasts that he had spoiled in Red Square, but wasn’t caught because he didn’t take off his pants! fool
    2. 0
      18 November 2014 20: 48
      Quote: Mercenary
      Sad It's a shame for the Slavs. And they themselves were cheated, and they cheated on Russia.


      These "brothers-Ukrainians" betrayed the Slavs, stole from their brother, revived fascism, and got what they were striving for. Don't worry about them - let's rejoice for the Ukrainians, they are "in the EU ... in a bright future"
  15. +3
    18 November 2014 16: 54
    will soon slide into the "stone age", this will be further accelerated by the crumbling scientific base
  16. +6
    18 November 2014 16: 54
    I am sincerely sorry for simple hard workers. Hundreds of enterprises are doomed to ruin, millions of people to poverty. They let the damn "kids" go to the Maidan.
  17. +3
    18 November 2014 16: 57
    Not only failed at the exhibition, but failed as a state, partners and normal neighbors, but all for the sake of America and the Nazis. negative
  18. +2
    18 November 2014 16: 58
    Why they even went there is not clear.
  19. +5
    18 November 2014 17: 01
    Now they and the Chinese are to blame ...
  20. +4
    18 November 2014 17: 01
    And who said that it would be easy. As if the world is blind and deaf, and does not understand anything at all. Who will deal with a country that itself destroys its future. Ukraine was so proud of its "independence", and lay down under a whole crowd.
  21. +5
    18 November 2014 17: 10
    Better tell us what was at the Russian stand. And that we here are happy for the neighbor, that "the cow is dying", and we themselves do not suck anything out?
  22. +3
    18 November 2014 17: 11
    It was necessary to bring the girls in embroidered shirts. True in the Middle Kingdom for prostitution and can be shot. hi
  23. +2
    18 November 2014 17: 12
    everyone will get in the end according to his deeds. whoever craps will get a bunch at the end.
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  25. +9
    18 November 2014 17: 21
    I still can’t understand the domestic oligophrenic who froze the Il-112 and Il-214 projects for the rotten An-7x, in which the Russian Federation invested nearly $ 900 million, and the Khokhlostan not only threw money at the headstock, but and sold everything that was to the Chinese, both the Xian Y-20 and the euro fags in the form of an Airbus A400M. And the saddest thing is that the bureaucratic bastard who made the decision will not be punished, especially since everyone knew that it would be so and we will stay naked ......
    1. +3
      18 November 2014 18: 58
      add another TU-330 here
      1. +1
        18 November 2014 19: 34
        Yes, there the list goes on, such as IL-114 and Tu-334, and on many other issues ...
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  26. GRF
    +2
    18 November 2014 17: 23
    It’s sad to hear that about China ...
    The vulture in the article shows ...
  27. Olga Sinigrosova
    +1
    18 November 2014 17: 29
    laughing "Serves you right" does not work. I understand that all the mutants there are now kangaroo camels, not friends and brothers, but it doesn't work. After all, they have been with us for a long time. Suddenly, their dishonesty and theft will cast a shadow on us? I am ashamed of them and sorry.
  28. +3
    18 November 2014 17: 32
    A couple of little yellow color at the exhibition. Blue is, pah, that is, black, but yellow - dumb? Hail! Putin is to blame! He beat off all customers from ukroboronets.
    Chumak should have been asked to charge the Powder portrait. And then everything would be fine.
  29. +21
    18 November 2014 17: 35
    Well, it remains only to "teach" Thailand with "Oplot" - and that's all, one might say, a comprehensive export ... Well, then each one describes in the measure of his upbringing ... from South Africa they didn’t pay for coal, the Brazilians with the rocket, it seems, were deceived, the engine of the statesmen exploded after the alteration. As I can see, all export operations can be curtailed and completely switched to two of the most important Ukrainian export items - rapeseed and representatives of the oldest profession.

    the process of signing Ukrainian arms contracts
    Ukraine was pretty shitty to Russia by simply outrageous dumping, especially in the sector of "regular buyers" of Soviet weapons - selling off the stocks of equipment inherited from the USSR at bargain prices. Plus, a lot of interesting Soviet developments by now Russian design bureaus went just through Ukraine (serial plants) for all sorts of "joint" projects, naturally without the participation of our design bureaus. The most obvious one is the sale to China of the Zubra air-cushion landing craft (developed at the Almaz Central Design Bureau) under the guise of allegedly "its own development" "Bizon", moreover, together with technical documentation. More examples can be found. But now it looks like this lafe has come to an end - everyone has already begun to spit at the mention of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex and refuse to cooperate.
    As they say - "Feel the difference!" :)


    Ukrainians pressed hard on the "secondary" arms market. Historically, a huge amount of weapons was stored on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. This is the reserve of the first wave for the Western Group of Forces, this is the Kiev Military District, these are the reserve warehouses where everything removed from service was sent, but not sent for melting. And, of course, warehouses for humanitarian aid to the nude cannibals fighting capitalism. At the time of the collapse of the Empire, these warehouses in total had almost half of all aviation, tank forces and artillery of the Union. Something was saved and taken away (part of the "new" property taken out a little earlier by the ZGV). Something was promptly transferred to the Russian bases in Crimea. But the bulk remained to be plundered by the Raguli. And this mass put pressure on the "secondary market" of weapons - both in the form of finished products and in the form of components. I will reveal a terrible military secret - a lot of Russian military-industrial complex enterprises bent or shrank to a half corpse due to the lack of orders, for example, for aircraft AiREO or tank transmission and electrical elements. With a gigantic market for these products, there were no real orders for new ones at all - the entire market was flooded with donor organs from the ruins. Guess why only 200 out of 76 IL-78 / IL-5 fly on the ruin? Why out of 3000 (approximately) T-72s on the move remained about a hundred (of which half are already in Novorossiya)? And for now, I'll give you a hint - you can remove avionics from the Il-76 for about 20 million dollars (in market prices), and from the T-72 you can remove the starter, generator, fuel pumps and other running nishtyaks for about 80 thousand dollars. All kinds of repair factories also massively drove counterfeit kits.
    1. 0
      18 November 2014 18: 00
      "Trussishki" then where? recourse
    2. 0
      19 November 2014 03: 55
      Great deal, go on. A better separate article, for a deeper understanding, so to speak.
  30. +1
    18 November 2014 17: 40
    There is not enough black ribbon in the corner of the portrait.
  31. alexandrovich
    0
    18 November 2014 17: 41
    And they thought cheaper and sold all the friends and allies, but it was not there! To think narrowly this is their Nazi vocation !!!
  32. +5
    18 November 2014 17: 41
    I feel sorry for Ukraine after all. There was good land - turned it into hell knows what. No, we still need to return them to Russia in full force (give the maximum of Lviv to the Poles) - they would work for us, and they would invent new things in the military-industrial complex. They have good specialists and scientists indeed.
    1. Underwood
      0
      18 November 2014 17: 59
      Quote: Dreamscripter
      I feel sorry for Ukraine after all. There was good land - turned it into hell knows what.

      i'm the cautious xoxl-cooks-clan. On the ... deleted by the moderator ... it’s too early to cross. They must pass maydanofreniya. I hope so.
    2. 0
      18 November 2014 20: 47
      First, you just have to let everyone through the filtration camps so that this infection does not penetrate us! stop
  33. ik0
    0
    18 November 2014 17: 42
    Do they have the official language of Russian?
    the oath ... whether! am
  34. +3
    18 November 2014 17: 48
    Dear forum users, this is not a failure. They are still being let in. Soon, looking in the direction of being unaltered will simply not be decent.
    1. +3
      18 November 2014 17: 56
      No, ukro-transport plane on ukrostend with the Russian flag, this is a complete failure.
      1. +3
        18 November 2014 19: 50
        Do not carp, here there is nothing to paint bridges .... wassat
  35. Underwood
    +2
    18 November 2014 17: 55
    Quote: ODERVIT
    Soon, looking in the direction of being unaltered will simply not be decent.

    Peripheral vision. They are looking at us. Let's match ...
  36. +1
    18 November 2014 17: 55
    It’s a sin to say this, but it seems to me that the black stripes in the portrait are very lacking
  37. +1
    18 November 2014 18: 03
    All the devastations, first of all, hit the defense industry. But what factories were there !!! Americans know what to do, absolutely.
    1. 0
      18 November 2014 20: 53
      Yusovites act according to Nietzsche's precepts: "push the falling one!" negative
  38. 0
    18 November 2014 18: 05
    a logical continuation of the policy of squandering former Soviet property without new developments, plus a dubious reputation, that's the result.
  39. SEK
    SEK
    +3
    18 November 2014 18: 18
    This was their last "entrance to the people". All industrial and scientific potential will go to Novorossia. And Galicia will sell beets and lard at the bazaar.
  40. +2
    18 November 2014 18: 28
    Quote: Natalia
    The whole of Ukro-Oboron_Prom is built on the Soviet legacy that they are so painstakingly trample into the mud.
    And they have nothing of their own.

    therefore, it’s doubly disappointing that all our jointly-developed (USSR-vskie) unique things, some slightly modernized, went penniless. We had something similar when we sold the fleet to China at the price of scrap, and as it now pops up - with all the technical documentation and weapons (((
  41. +2
    18 November 2014 18: 34
    As in that proverb "I finished playing x..n on the violin." But joy is still not felt, such a country is overdue ...!
  42. wow
    +1
    18 November 2014 18: 47
    Turn off the light, panov. The train left, but you stayed!
  43. +5
    18 November 2014 18: 53
    wassat something like that
  44. news
    +1
    18 November 2014 18: 53
    portrait of President Petro Poroshenko, now successfully serving as the grave digger of the Ukrainian defense industry
  45. +1
    18 November 2014 18: 55
    Quote: aleks 62
    ...... The frame on the portrait of the "helmsman" to the wrong collector ...... Should be black .... wink wassat

    Faded !!!! Paint Mr.- !!!! laughing
  46. Underwood
    +2
    18 November 2014 18: 58
    No, no, early UAshny military-industrial complex bury. Saying plus grabs is, of course, the national-network trend now, but I would not dance on this topic. At the patient’s bed, you need to make an appropriate mug. Nothing is clear yet. Can survive. In spite of....
    1. +1
      18 November 2014 19: 04
      well no. not early. laughing right on time
    2. +1
      18 November 2014 21: 01
      Oh yeah! The old woman did not suffer for a long time in killers of experienced hands ... fool
  47. +1
    18 November 2014 19: 28
    By the way, after the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine had one of the best armies in the world. However, incompetent pro-American rulers came to power (Yushchenko, for example), put “their” thieving people in important posts, and the army was destroyed (though not only the army).

    PS Nobody takes orders from Ukraine, because Independent has a terrible reputation. On time, orders are not fulfilled, and those parties that are sent to the customer are of poor quality.

    The PSS machines themselves are not bad at all. BM "Oplot" for example. Or T-84 "Oplot".
  48. 0
    18 November 2014 19: 28
    The commander in chief is ukrvaflen. laughing
    1. 0
      18 November 2014 20: 46
      Brute force! This is superfluous and inadequate, the frame of the photo lacks one thing - the mourning ribbon!
  49. 0
    18 November 2014 20: 45
    they leaked the bison technicals to the Chinese !? belay here! (this blinked out a flash ...)
    but about an empty stand - so in Donbass schaz such advertising is rushing to them that they shout the guard))) they have a "full house" everywhere with such advertising)
  50. +3
    18 November 2014 20: 47
    Who will look for an armored personnel carrier, hung with bed nets or grilles removed from the windows?

    There is a rational proposal - to hang around with grave fencing immediately, shtob not to fool then.

    sincerely sorry for the simple hard workers. Hundreds of enterprises are doomed to ruin, millions of people to poverty.

    But I'm not sorry, they achieved what they wanted. And Ukrainian women do not mind killing other Ukrainians in the Southeast. After all, they (women) are protesting because little money is given to their punitive peasants because of money, weapons, bronics and grub.

    My friends have (already had) a friendly family in Ukraine, a peasant received a summons from the military enlistment office, so they did not protest, but ran around the storehouses and equipped the peasant for war - they bought, for their money, bronik, helmet, berets. I don’t know what is going on next, but my jaw dropped slightly.

    There is no one to spare there.

    And how the Tu-160 was cut in Ukraine, which they had left, in the early 90's.
    Russia asked to give, then offered to buy.
    No! Significantly cut, having received some pennies for this work from the Americans. And even these pennies were plundered right away, I’m more than sure.
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  52. 0
    18 November 2014 20: 54
    Quote: Natalia
    The whole of Ukro-Oboron_Prom is built on the Soviet legacy that they are so painstakingly trample into the mud.
    And they have nothing of their own.

    they sold what didn’t belong to them. And it’s not just about technology. It’s about the work of many scientists, design bureaus, etc., who worked to strengthen the country’s defense as well as its power.. And these scoundrels sell everything for pennies, while criticizing on every corner is the Union and everything connected with it.
  53. 0
    18 November 2014 21: 05
    I don’t want to seem gloating, but........ Ha! ha! ha! good
  54. 0
    18 November 2014 21: 07
    Disgrace! It would be better not to exhibit.
  55. 0
    18 November 2014 21: 11
    Why is Russian used at the stand? They shout everywhere that their official language is Ukrainian...
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      18 November 2014 21: 28
      Apparently the whole world does not recognize their language as human language laughing
  56. 0
    18 November 2014 22: 12
    In his opinion, China has long ago sucked everything out of Ukraine, and now Beijing no longer needs it as a military-technical cooperation partner.

    I really don’t want to read the same phrase about Russia in 10 years.
  57. 0
    19 November 2014 01: 37
    Seeing such a sour face of the president, few people will want to resolve any issues with this country on long-term projects.
  58. 0
    19 November 2014 04: 00
    We don’t even push the ruin into the abyss, we just stopped constantly pulling it out of there. Let it all collapse there, without a trace. And then we will carry out activities based on the results. In principle, it will be possible to limit ourselves to the most delicious pieces.
  59. 0
    19 November 2014 07: 03
    There is little joy here, in fact, in many technologies Russia and Ukraine overlap, which is reflected in the heritage of one large country. And this is actually bad, since the same Chinese and Americans have owned this technology for a long time, thanks to our smaller brothers.
    Accordingly, great efforts need to be made to develop new technologies that are fundamentally different from the old ones
  60. 0
    19 November 2014 07: 16
    and this would not hurt the banana states at all, it’s a pity, but the military-industrial complex of Ukraine still has something to offer, but the modern Ukrainian authorities are inevitably turning the country into an outcast...
  61. 0
    19 November 2014 07: 54
    The fact that almost all the inscriptions on the posters are in English is understandable. I was amused by the fact that the last one was in Russian. Where is the language? Or did they not have time to redraw the poster? winked
  62. 0
    19 November 2014 14: 08
    the kakly are like in the cartoon where the grandfather sold a cow. It will do just fine. Even if they changed the traders, they would have invited some kind of kakla with the face of a black frame to the edge.
  63. 0
    19 November 2014 19: 22
    Chinese negotiators are very strong; Ukrainians are no match for them. Even our cunningly experienced Miller admitted this. It’s just that the Chinese comrades scammed the simple-minded Ukrainians to the fullest extent. By the way, we also signed contracts not on the terms that we had planned right away. And the Chinese are very good at buying new models of equipment along with technologies; they are pros here. The information about the desire of the Chinese comrades to locate the production of our rocket engines on their territory is especially alarming. If ours agree to this, then in a couple of years they will push us out of the space transportation market, just as they are already competing in the sale of our S-300s, converted to their own brand. Our leadership is obliged to remember the lessons of the past; know-how cannot be transferred under any promises of friendship forever. Making deliveries in any quantities, on mutually beneficial terms, is one thing, but placing our advanced production on their territory would be a fatal mistake.
  64. 0
    6 December 2014 18: 05
    Quote: Hedgehog
    Quote: Natalia
    And they have nothing of their own.

    You are only partially right. They have a lot of their own, but unfortunately no one will buy it. Well, who needs a robot reconnaissance with a control panel on a cable 5 meters long. Or who is looking for an armored personnel carrier, hung with bed nets or grilles removed from the windows?
    Right click on the picture and choose "Open Image".


    This is called “improvised armor”, and no one is going to sell it abroad.
  65. 0
    6 December 2014 18: 29
    [quote=Target][quote=Ezhak][quote=Natalia]And they have nothing of their own.[/quote]
    You are only partially right. They have a lot of their own, but unfortunately no one will buy it. Well, who needs a robot reconnaissance with a control panel on a cable 5 meters long. Or who is looking for an armored personnel carrier, hung with bed nets or grilles removed from the windows?
    Right click on the picture and choose "Open Image".


    This is an improvisation of armor due to the shortage and insufficient protection of armored vehicles from Ukraine and Novorossia in the ATO zone. No one is going to sell this abroad.

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