Russia’s own orbital station will not acquire in the near future

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On November 17, on Monday, the media spread the information that Russia could acquire its own orbital station in the near future. The relevant material was presented by the publication "Kommersant", which referred to its own sources. Discussions about the construction of our own orbital station arose against the background of the deteriorating international situation and the planned withdrawal of Russia from the ISS project after 2020. However, the information that Russia already in the 2017 year could begin to deploy its own space station was “greatly exaggerated.” On the same day, this information was refuted by representatives of Roskosmos, who gave comments to Rossiyskaya Gazeta, Interfax and VGTRK.

Dreams of the station

“Kommersant” in its article “Russian-centric orbit” noted that already from 2017, a program on the deployment of its own orbital station could begin in our country. Curiously, the publication referred to its own sources in Roscosmos. The article talked about the fact that the project of a new high-latitude station was developed by scientific organizations of the Federal Space Agency. At the same time, it was planned to abandon the development of the domestic segment of the ISS, while fulfilling obligations to the other participants of this project before 2020. Part of the modules that were previously created for the ISS was planned to be redirected to the creation of a new national station.

“Kommersant”, citing its sources close to the leadership of the Central Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering (the leading scientific enterprise of the industry), reported that the launch of the domestic high-latitude orbital station into a near-earth orbit would be one of the key proposals of the project for the development of Russian manned cosmonautics up to 2050 of the year. This document is going to be presented by a joint group of Roscosmos and scientific organizations involved in the project. The publication noted that the Russian station should be deployed in the period from 2017 to 2019 years. However, despite this, there is no talk about the early collapse of work under the ISS project. Russia intends to firmly fulfill all its international obligations before 2020.



In May, 2014 of the year against the background of the cooling of relations between Washington and Moscow and the introduction of economic sanctions in charge of the military-industrial complex (and the space industry as well) Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin noted that Russia is not going to extend the station’s operation to 2024 of the year, as planned in the United States. At the same time, the released funds could be spent on other Russian space projects. Rogozin noted that more than 30% of the Roscosmos budget goes to the ISS. Later in early November 2014, Oleg Ostapenko, the head of Roscosmos, told Charles Bolden the head of NASA that the final decision on whether or not to extend the operation of the ISS to 2024 would be made in Russia before the end of 2014.

The Kommersant sources explained the logic of the creation of a national orbital station by a number of factors. In particular, launches of manned spacecraft "Soyuz-MS" from the new Vostochny cosmodrome to the inclination of 51,6 degrees (this is the inclination of the ISS) are associated with a significant risk for crews during the launch phase. If an abnormal situation occurs on board, astronauts may find themselves in the open sea. At the same time, the inclination of the Russian orbital station should be 64,8 degrees, and at the stage of launching the flight path will pass over land. In addition, the finding parameters of the Russian orbital station will allow cargoes to be delivered to it using rockets launched into space from the Plesetsk military cosmodrome.

Accordingly, the Russian Federation will receive full access to civilian space immediately from the 2-x sites, which should eliminate potential political risks when using the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan. Also, a source of Kommersant noted that the location of the new Russian station would be more advantageous, which would allow for an expanded sector of the earth's surface to be realized. From the station it would be visible up to 90% of the territory of our country and the Arctic shelf, whereas the ISS, this figure does not exceed 5%, the source said.

Russia’s own orbital station will not acquire in the near future


To create and arrange a new station, it is planned to use devices and modules that were previously intended for use on the ISS. The source of Kommersant said that the initial configuration of the new station will be built on the basis of the spacecraft OKA-T, the node and multi-purpose laboratory modules. The space station Progress-MS and Soyuz-MS will have to ensure successful operation of the station, and in the period from 2020 to 2024, it is possible to work out the transformable and energy modules used in the lunar program. Flight design tests of manned lunar infrastructure facilities were to become one of the functions of the new orbital station. The interlocutor of the publication spoke about the formation of a springboard - initially, the vehicles would get to the station, and from there it would be sent to the Moon.

On the issue price was not discussed. At the initial stage of implementation it was planned to use devices and modules that were created for the domestic segment of the ISS, which would not entail additional cash costs. At the same time, the ISS Russia takes part in the program from 1998 of the year. Today, Roskosmos spends 6 times less on station maintenance than NASA (in 2013, the United States allocated about 3 billion dollars for this purpose), while the Russian Federation owns the right to station crew 1 / 2.

Before joining the implementation of the ISS project, Russia has been using the Mir orbital station for many years, which was de-orbited only in 2001 year. One of the reasons for the flooding of the station in the Pacific Ocean called the high cost of its operation - about 200 million dollars a year. At the same time, the former head of the Russian Aerospace Agency, Yuri Koptev, admitted in 2011 that there was no reason to continue operating the Mir station. The cause was the catastrophic state of the station, there were even such critical moments when the control over the station during the correction of its orbit simply disappeared.

Denial of Roscosmos

Roscosmos quite quickly issued a refutation of the information provided. This was reported by leading state channels - VGTRK and "RT", as well as the agency "Interfax".

A source in Roscosmos told Interfax that the project of the Federal Space Program does not provide for the deployment of a new orbital station in 2017-2019. Currently, the implementation of such a project is simply impossible. The interlocutor of the agency emphasized the fact that the project of the Russian orbital station is not being implemented either financially or technically.

ISS


At the same time, a source in Roscosmos told reporters that some orbital modules, which are planned to be launched into space in 2017-2019, are intended to build up the Russian segment of the ISS. The management of Roscosmos has repeatedly said that it is interested in extending the work of the ISS at least until the 2020 year. At the same time, the expenses for these needs have already been budgeted for by the Roscosmos. At the same time, work on the project of a separate Russian orbital station will require the allocation of much more money. The interlocutor of the agency stressed that he did not believe that funds would be allocated in the current tense financial environment. This development he called improbable.

He also noted that the information about the development of a national orbital station that appeared in the Russian media would be technically difficult to put into practice on time. For example, the MLM mentioned in the press - the multifunctional laboratory module "Science" with a launch mass of 20,3 tons - should have been incorporated into the Russian segment of the ISS back in the 2007 year, but this module is still on the ground. So in 2014, its launch was once again postponed. The new launch date is the first quarter of 2017 of the year.

In addition, the interlocutor of the Interfax agency noted that the characteristics of the future domestic high-latitude orbital station given in the mass media are incorrect for monitoring the territory of our country. The ISS per day 6 just flies around the Earth, having a slope of about 51,8 degrees. Every more or less knowledgeable person will understand that from this position from the station one can observe most of the territory of the Russian Federation. In addition, the possible tasks of conducting Earth sounding are much simpler and more convenient to solve with the help of specially designed vehicles for this purpose, including small ones. To use a station with a mass of tens of tons for the same purpose is at least irrational.

World station on 24 September 1996 of the year


Soviet and Russian orbital stations

Soviet and Russian story The use of the orbital station is quite rich. Only in the USSR were implemented two programs for their construction - the military "Almaz" and the civilian "Salyut". A total of 7 Salyut stations were successfully launched into Earth orbit. Three of these stations (Salyut-2, 3 and 5) were created as part of the OPS military program, the Almaz orbital manned stations. The Soviet Union launched the first ever civilian long-term orbital station (SOS), the Salyut, into the Earth's orbit on April 19 of 1971. This station successfully worked in orbit 175 day. During this time, two expeditions were sent to the station, with the second of them ending in tragedy. The crew of the station was killed during the landing due to depressurization of the landing module.

In 1972, the Soviet Union tried to put the second DOS into Earth orbit, but its start failed, the station was lost. 3 April 1973 of the year managed to bring the Salyut-2 SPS into orbit, which completed its work in 54 of the day due to the onset of depressurization. Problems were observed in other Soviet stations. In particular, due to a malfunction in the proximity system, Salyut-3 and Soyuz-15 could not dock with each other, whose crews returned to Earth.

DOS "Salyut-6" and "Salyut-7" already belonged to the second generation of orbital stations, they were launched into orbit in 1977 and 1982 respectively. These stations had an 2 docking station, which provided the ability to supply and refuel the station with the help of cargo ships. The first station spent on Earth orbit 4 of the year and 10 months, and the second 8 years and 10 months.



In 1986, the USSR was unable to put an unmanned station "Almaz-T" into orbit, which was created in the interests of the Ministry of Defense, and was prevented by a launch vehicle accident. From 1987 to 1989, an automatic military radar station called Cosmos-1870 operated in space. In addition to this, 31 March 1991 was launched at the Almaz-1А station, which spent much less time on Earth orbit (5 and a half months instead of 30). The reason for this was the increased fuel consumption.

19 February 1986, the world's first multi-module orbital station, the famous Mir station, was launched into Earth orbit. This station has existed in space for more than 15 years. During this time, the 104 man has managed to go on board. At the same time, the Mir station was able to survive a number of emergencies, including a fire on board and a collision with the Progress МХNUMX ship, which occurred in 34 year. The station was flooded 1997 March 23 year in the Pacific. This project was replaced by the International Space Station. Already 2001 November, 20, our country launched the first element of the ISS - the functional and cargo block “Dawn”. Currently, the Russian segment of the station already has 1998 modules: in addition to Dawn, this is the service module Constellation, the docking compartment Pirs, the small research module Poisk and the small research module Rassvet.

Information sources:
http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2612375?isSearch=True
http://russian.rt.com/inotv/2014-11-17/Rossiya-postroit-svoyu-orbitalnuyu-stanciyu
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/407557
http://finam.info/blog/43130361060/Rossiya-s-2017-goda-nachnet-stroit-natsionalnuyu-kosmicheskuyu-s
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  1. +3
    19 November 2014 06: 59
    Actually this picture explains everything!
    3 stations is an ISS or a replacement, a station in distant orbit and on the moon!
    So you can provide acceptable service safety!
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    2. +5
      19 November 2014 08: 13
      Station, station, and then infa appeared that some kind of Russian satellite - a killer - was discovered. At first it was mistaken for "garbage", but it turns out that it cuts strange trajectories towards our other satellites. As if there is a working off of the destruction of possible opponents.
      1. +2
        19 November 2014 11: 43
        An object has been detected that is moving from one Russian object to another. It was launched on Proton along with three Rodnik communication satellites. Well, then there are many assumptions - from the fact that this is some kind of garbage to an experimental military apparatus. And what exactly is unknown.
    3. +4
      19 November 2014 11: 21
      Quote: MolGro
      Actually this picture explains everything!

      As for the rejection of the ISS and the creation of the national Russian station - not everything is so simple!
      There is such info -
      What interesting news began to emerge in the media:

      Russia plans to start with the 2017 of the year the deployment of its own orbital space station, using for its creation part of the modules intended for the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS). This is written by http://lenta.ru/news/2014/11/17/spacestation/

      In Roscosmos denied information about the project of the national orbital station. According to an Interfax source in the department, there is no such project in the draft federal space program - Roskomos will not be able to provide it with resources along with obligations under the ISS program. This is written by http://top.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5469c043cbb20f7c325d7826

      In fact, the news does not contradict each other - they are talking about the same thing, just from different angles. We are talking about the well-known opportunity to undock the Russian modules from the ISS and build on their basis a national station - sending the “world community” far further.

      It is interesting that the inclination of the ISS orbit was made so that it was convenient to fly from Baikonur to it. At the same time, the United States made a concession in altitude. In order to minimize the influence of the atmosphere, the station had to be raised to 390 — 400 km, but the American shuttles could not rise to such a height. Therefore, the station was held at altitudes of 330 — 350 km by periodic correction by engines. Now, the cunning Russians repeatedly increase the orbit altitude in an explicit manner, and on 11 July 2014, the orbit altitude averaged 417 km already - so now even if the United States wanted to take the shuttle to the ISS, it would have become impossible.

      Let's see what the ISS consists of. Here, in the photo, the Russian segment is looking at you - you can even see the Soyuz spare ship docked to it. Yes, yes - the whole cylindrical part is Russian, five modules - “Dawn”, “Star”, “Pier”, “Search” and “Dawn”. The Russian segment is connected to the rest of the station through a single pressurized adapter, which is easily undocked and sends the Russian part into independent navigation.

      Important is the Zvezda service module, which houses flight control systems, life support systems, an energy and information center, as well as cabins for astronauts, and the Zarya module, which contains engines for correcting the orbit and station position.

      It is significant that the Russian segment now has everything that is needed for autonomous functioning.

      The Russian modules Zvezda, Pirs, Search and Dawn are manufactured and belong to Russia, which retains the right to use them. The Zarya module was built and delivered into orbit by the Russian side, but it was done at the expense of the United States, so NASA is officially the owner of this module today.

      http://topru.org/1520/vsyo-ne-tak-odnoznachno/
      1. +1
        19 November 2014 17: 32
        An interesting thought) And why not?
        Dock and get the much-needed station!
        After all, when the design of the Nuclear Tug is completed, then
        it will need to be parked somewhere after launch)
        As can be seen from the picture above, the low-orbit station should serve to park the tugboats and their maintenance, as well as to relax the staff and can do some research)
  2. +1
    19 November 2014 07: 11
    I wonder where and why did the information that the station will be built?
    1. 0
      19 November 2014 11: 34
      Quote: saag
      I wonder where and why did the information that the station will be built?

      Russia plans to start with the 2017 of the year the deployment of its own orbital space station, using for its creation part of the modules intended for the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS). About this writes on Monday, November 17, "Kommersant" with reference to a source close to the leadership of the Central Scientific Research Institute of Mechanical Engineering.


      those. gave a kind of "drain" to the ongoing work at TsNIIM on the national station ... where, among other things, the early completion of the ISS and the options for "undocking" our segment are being evaluated. It would be a sin to destroy them ...

      At the same time, 3,14 people are hinting "thickly" that it's time to wind up cooperation. Although we will continue work on the ISS until 2020, says Roscosmos ... :)))
  3. +2
    19 November 2014 07: 40
    Under S.P. The Queen of Roskosmos was not there, but the first satellite and the first cosmonaut were ours! Then, apparently, someone in the government thought, why bother so much, let's create Roscosmos and everything will be tip-top. And so it happened. In general, well, his this space, and who wants to fly there, let him go to Houston or to the Chinese. In general, these speculations and provocations in the press about our space program are tired.
  4. +1
    19 November 2014 09: 09
    Own station is definitely needed, only if we can afford it in the near future, this is a big question.
  5. +1
    19 November 2014 09: 20
    The ideas are promising, but there’s no money crying request
  6. +4
    19 November 2014 09: 45
    sorry (But I think it's not that simple. Russian space is going into "secrecy". The ISS resource has already been well spent for 16 years! It seems to me that the lobby of the United States and other countries of the ISS project is strong in Roskosmos. The Russians have achieved success and experience in building orbital stations, because the ISS essentially took all the best from the WORLD. All the same, who did not say anything, and the national orbital station will be created, because it is simply necessary!
    1. 0
      19 November 2014 11: 48
      Why is it necessary? If we discard patriotic pathos - then for the next 10 years it is not needed - manned space, as it has been for the last 30 years, remains the lot of science. And it is better to promote it together - less resources are spent; better scientific exchange. And here we need to hold onto the ISS with both hands, which gives us a chance not only to promote our own projects, but also to earn on flights.
      I am not against my own station - but, for the sake of ambitions, I would not like to receive a degraded Mir clone 20 years after its fall. With a crew of a couple of people and stories about bases on Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
      1. +2
        19 November 2014 16: 09
        Of course, it is better to implement huge and complex projects together, but unfortunately the situation in world politics is heating up, there are no guarantees that our current partners will not be our enemies tomorrow. Plus, in the ISS, we indirectly help our competitors, and it is still completely unknown what experiments they conduct there.
        I also think that creating your own station is direct investment in the DOMESTIC industry, this is new jobs, this is the development of related industries. You won’t earn much on flights, and you won’t develop science with production. Plus, I do not believe that with the current development of science and technology, you can get a worsened clone of the world.
        Ideally (without corruption and betrayal, without parasitism and sabotage) our state and industry is quite capable of it. Of course, the task is difficult, but its implementation will unite us and reveal treacherous elements at the top
        1. -1
          19 November 2014 17: 48
          If we turn out to be such enemies that we cannot continue joint science, then the loss of the ISS will perhaps even be a problem of not a third importance.
          The ISS is a pure science - experiments on it are transparent on both sides - a single crew, the general availability of the station, openness to society (there is a schedule of experiments, station equipment, etc.) will not allow them to engage in war at any weighty level.
          That is, our presence there guarantees that the "partners" will not do anything for militarization there.

          If we work alone, then in conditions of low funding, we will get exactly something of the "Mir" level with a different set of equipment. The only way out is to bow to the military, but as the last "Salutes" and "Mir" showed, they are not very interested in growing millet seeds and looking at the stars, and they solve practical problems with satellites.
  7. -7
    19 November 2014 09: 58
    Why is it needed? Money nowhere to go? Enough for the Olympics, the World Cup, where officials and organizers plundered and stole money. Next in line is the construction of a bridge across the Kerch Strait - a bottomless huge barrel of financial resources and materials, a wide field for theft.
  8. +4
    19 November 2014 10: 14
    Already wrote but I repeat:
    1. In a few years, it is planned to begin operating a megawatt-class nuclear tugboat; this implies that this tugboat needs to be serviced periodically; it’s not comme il faut on the ISS, after all, it’s a secret contraption and it’s not worth showing it to anyone.
    2. The second is quite logical that on the basis of this tugboat they will create a ship similar to a river tugboat pusher with one or two non-self-propelled barges attached to them in our case, a cargo or passenger module.
    3. Considering that Angara A7.2 is capable of launching up to 50 tons into a low orbit, it is quite possible to quickly create a station weighing 150 tons in orbit.
    4. It’s already Fiction, to be more precise, my thoughts, and who said that it should be a station, and not a ship, let’s say, the BZHRK only in space, 3 modules, one residential and managerial second warehouse of fuel and lubricants and other useful little things, the third though scientific at least military (than not BZHRK more precisely turns out to be BKRK) and the 4th module is our tug so to speak space M62 (diesel locomotive) and fly even to the Moon even to Mars, the Angara, after all, they did what prevents such a BKKK from modularizing quite conveniently and unifiedly, and consequently for quite reasonable money .
    5. Something according to the scheme of the Salyut station, it is not necessary to withdraw the colossus. Or because the picture only in the place of Progress tug.
    1. +1
      20 November 2014 08: 22
      The station will be more needed)
      As I wrote above, the station is needed for parking, etc. tugboats)
      After all, there will be 2 classes and several types.) Well, this is a separate topic.
      Not to mention the orbital headlights, which also have to follow.
      But about the ship in the picture, it is also present in the form of a prefabricated station, as you say)
  9. 0
    19 November 2014 11: 04
    Of course, Russia needs its own orbital station, and it will certainly be created and will be in demand in the future. There are technical possibilities for this. Financial means will certainly be found if the prospects of the station are clear and the tasks of its use are defined. Now, the main tasks are the Vostochny cosmodrome and the Angara project. Having solved them, it will be possible to move further in space exploration. In December, it is planned to launch the "heavy" Angara, Roscosmos specialists are preparing for it and hope for a positive result, but for now:

    "Heroes of Peaceful Days, Sentinels of the Fatherland
    powerful strategic missiles.
    Our shifts are on duty
    Like Motherland. like Lenin's testament! "
  10. 0
    19 November 2014 11: 21
    Roscosmos denied the message about the beginning of the design of the orbital station, citing lack of finances and technical capabilities, of course, funds allocated from the budget and so not enough for the maintenance of oh .... the number of officials, and here they are also forced to engage in space exploration.
  11. +1
    19 November 2014 11: 32
    Quote: "The ISS orbits the Earth 6 times per day"
    16 times (one revolution about 90 minutes).
  12. +2
    19 November 2014 12: 46
    Quote: K-50
    The ideas are promising, but there’s no money crying request

    It is high time for us to look for sponsors of such projects among the bloodsucking oligarchs, I understand that they will not want to, but you can try to convince.
  13. 0
    19 November 2014 13: 10
    Team up with the Chinese and Indians.
  14. 0
    19 November 2014 13: 30
    What is the reason why the machine gun installation was modified for the American Abrams tank. ????
    tell me
    1. +1
      19 November 2014 13: 51
      Quote: REXSTORZ
      for the American tank "Abrams" was modified machine gun installation.

      in the competition
      "Armored Warfare" flying over? laughing
      1. 0
        19 November 2014 14: 09
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Quote: REXSTORZ
        for the American tank "Abrams" was modified machine gun installation.

        in the competition
        "Armored Warfare" flying over? laughing

        yes there is a current answer I think that is not accurate)))
    2. +2
      19 November 2014 16: 58
      This question should be asked in the "Armament" and "armored vehicles" section. not "Technology and Space". Otherwise it will be like in a joke: "Madame, you really need a doctor! Excuse me, but who are you? We are plasterers!"
  15. 0
    19 November 2014 14: 47
    During life, I would like to see some significant progress in space exploration.
  16. 0
    19 November 2014 15: 43
    Quote: said46w
    During life, I would like to see some significant progress in space exploration.

    As there will be a nuclear engine in space, so will the progress of the Moon and Mars and Asteroids
  17. +2
    19 November 2014 15: 56
    Like it or not, but gradually Russia will be squeezed out of the ISS.
    As soon as the "friends" have a means of delivering bodies into orbit, the speed of squeezing out will increase dramatically.
    Therefore, work in the direction of creating your own DOS must be carried out now.
    1. Shur
      0
      23 November 2014 23: 53
      With them it will become. We must strive for the dream of S.P. Queen about the spacecraft assembly plant in orbit.
  18. 0
    19 November 2014 17: 38
    Quote: Tamanskiy
    Own station is definitely needed, only if we can afford it in the near future, this is a big question.

    The Soviet Union launched an orbital station into space 16 years after the war, because the country's leadership needed it. And what do Putin and Medvedev and the "elite" around the government need now? Two pipes - one gas, the other oil. The rest, by and large, does not interest them.
  19. Tribuns
    +1
    21 November 2014 23: 17
    And, it's a pity ... It was not necessary, to please the Americans, at one time to drown their space station "Mir", and its maintenance and repair had to be carried out jointly with Chinese partners with their admission to the station ...
    1. 0
      21 November 2014 23: 25
      Quote: TribunS
      And, it's a pity ... It was not necessary, to please the Americans, at one time to drown their space station "Mir", and its maintenance and repair had to be carried out jointly with Chinese partners with their admission to the station ...


      The idea is modern. But was this possible? For us in finance, for China in time (the first teikonaut on 15.10.2003/XNUMX/XNUMX)?
    2. 0
      21 November 2014 23: 27
      "Mir" was in poor technical condition; it still did not have long to live.