The attitude of Russians to the processes occurring in the army of the Russian Federation

The data of the next poll, devoted to the attitude of Russians to the state of affairs in the national army, was published by the FOM (All-Russia Public Opinion Foundation). Foundation experts have conducted similar surveys of ordinary Russians for more than 10 years, starting with the 2002 year. Moreover, surveys could be conducted several times over the course of one year. That is exactly what happened in 2014. The FOM conducted the first survey on the state of affairs in the Russian army and its attitude to it in April, and the second in November of this year.

It is curious to look and comment on the results published fund "Public opinion".

One of the questions that was offered to Russians sounded like this:
How do you assess the state of affairs in the Russian army: how excellent, good, satisfactory, bad or very bad?

The answers were summarized by 4 categories: the first - “excellent and good”, the second - “satisfactory”, the third - “bad and very bad”, the fourth - “I find it difficult to answer”.

The leading position in the number of those who chose it took the position according to which the state of affairs in the Russian army is assessed as satisfactory. So answered 37% of respondents. 33% of respondents consider the situation to be excellent and good in Armenia, and this is an absolute record for the whole history carrying out similar sociological polls by FOM employees. For example, in April of the current year, the “good” and “excellent” assessments of the state of affairs in the Russian army were set by 25% of respondents. In 2006, only 3% of respondents answered the question in this way.

If you believe the results of the POF poll, it turns out that in 8-9 years in Russia, 11 has become more times the number of people who believe that the army is not just reborn, but also shows itself from the best. At the same time, the number of people who believe that chaos and lawlessness reigns in the army has sharply decreased. The state of the army of the Russian Federation assessed as bad or very bad 9% of respondents. This is the same as it was in April 2014. For comparison: in 2005 and 2006, 51% and 71% of respondents thought so, respectively. 71%! Percentage of many things ...

The second question from the POF concerns tendencies in Armenia and it sounds like this:
Do you think that today the situation in the Russian army is improving, worsening or remains the same as it was?

53% of respondents said that things are improving. 7% reported a reverse trend. Interestingly,% X of the interviewed Anatoly Serdyukov and representatives of the famous (former) “Zhenbat” (the “female battalion” of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation) entered these 7?

The third question of the FOM, in fact, duplicates the first two, because in it the Fund’s experts wanted to know the opinion of the respondents about the attitude of society to the Russian army. 54% said that the society is positive about the army, 14% have a diametrically opposite point of view, while the rest believe that the attitude of society to the country's army as a whole is neutral. To be honest, the purpose of this question is not quite clear, as it is somewhat strange to ask one or another interlocutor about the attitude towards the army of the whole Russian society. To find out this opinion, the first two questions, in principle, were enough.

Other questions from the FOM related to the attitude of Russians to the call, the evasion of some citizens from serving in the army and the influence of the call-to service on the person’s identity. 66% of respondents said that every healthy young man is obliged to complete conscription service, and 28% believe that young Russians should have the right of choice.

Estimates of attitudes towards draft divers were relatively close. 48% of respondents treat such people negatively, and 34% said they understand and even sympathize with draft dodgers. Interestingly, at the beginning of the 2000-s, they understood the draft dodgers and 53% of the citizens sympathized with them. That is, here the tendency of a more responsible attitude to the army and service in it is still evident. As a result, the FOM invited citizens (men) to answer the question whether they served in the army themselves. The results are as follows: of the 76% surveyed, they said they served, 23% did not. Several people said that it was difficult to answer this question. Have you forgotten? ..

Now, in fact, about the results of the FOM poll. What could be the reason for the increase in the number of people who consider the situation in the Russian army to be good and excellent? Of course, recent events played a role here. These are frequent military exercises, successful launches of ballistic missiles, testing of new types of military equipment. This is a well-known bloodless operation in the Crimea to protect the Crimean population from innovations of the Maidan and to provide an opportunity to speak freely about the status of the peninsula.

A positive opinion is also related to the fact how our sworn friends treat the Russian army. If we take into account that all the recent time, many “democratic partners” have called the Russian army the main threat in the world after a couple of decades of frank ridicule against the background of ignoring the interests of the Russian Federation, this suggests that the army has really stepped forward. A considerable contribution to the formation of a positive image of the army is made by television, the Internet, cinema, and literature. The possibility of a sober (comparative) assessment of what is happening in the Russian army and other armies of the world, as well as what the Russian army was 10-15 years ago, and what it is becoming today, has appeared. People have the opportunity from television screens, from the pages of websites, from newspapers to learn about the commissioning of military equipment of new designs, about improving the life of military personnel, about the technical equipment of the army. Comparative analysis allows us to form an objective judgment on the processes in the Armed Forces.

"Military Review", given the profile of our audience, invites readers to express their views on the processes taking place in the modern army of Russia, to characterize its modernization, and also to tell about their thoughts about what is needed to further improve Russia's defense.

Comments

[aszzz888]

The leading position in the number of those who chose it was taken by the position according to which the state of affairs in the Russian army is assessed as satisfactory. So answered 37% of respondents.

Most likely it is, but you can add 37% ++.

[Samaritan]

We carried out reforms, put competent, honest people and here is the result! Thanks and low bow!
... Be kind, also in other branches!

[ispaniard]

"Shaman" and "Taburetkin" are heaven and earth ...
And as for the ratings ... I trust the number of exercises, surprise checks and the number of units of the latest military equipment delivered to the troops.

In total, over a year has passed since the "Shaman" took up his duties, and the Russian soldiers "Green Men" outside the window already seem to half the world))).

[Karabanov]

Quote: ispaniard

units of the LATEST military equipment delivered to the troops.

I came across a funny article here, not a fake
RUSSIAN PATENTED A TANK FIRING CREW EXTRAMS
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=898097
Here is more detailed:
http://scisne.net/a1440

[Karabanov]

METHOD FOR REMOVING VITAL WASTE FROM THE INSULATED HABITATED DIVISION OF A MILITARY OBJECT AND DEVICE FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION
Keep the fascist poop

[ispaniard]

Quote: Karabanov

METHOD FOR REMOVING VITAL WASTE FROM THE INSULATED HABITATED DIVISION OF A MILITARY OBJECT AND DEVICE FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION
Keep the fascist poop

Well, you give and from the machine gun the crew of the tank will bark at the enemy?))))

[Alexey M]

Through a machine gun.

[RUSIVAN]

note to banderlogs, and then cf ... then they know how well)

[Karabanov]

Minus members, what has already hit you? Otherwise, why are you so annoyed? (the link to look is not fate, miserable kvass patriots).

[avdkrd]

Quote: Karabanov

I came across a funny article here, not a fake
RUSSIAN PATENTED A TANK FIRING CREW EXTRAMS
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=898097
Here is more detailed:
http://scisne.net/a1440

I do not know who managed to patent this nonsense (a patent costs money, and implementation is negligible), you should not believe everything. Shot with katyakh is a rather expensive pleasure (the charge itself, washing the barrel of a tank, after such a shot), it is much easier to think of a dry closet as a su 34.

[Karabanov]

I understand that very well. The case of course is rather funny, nothing more ...

[GUKTU]

Your shaman inflicted irreparable harm in the role of governor of the Ulyanovsk region. A rare thief. He and his son-in-law. I am responsible for my words. It must be planted and not appointed commander of the Airborne Forces

[ispaniard]

Quote: GUKTU

Your shaman inflicted irreparable harm in the role of governor of the Ulyanovsk region. A rare thief. He and his son-in-law. I am responsible for my words. It must be planted and not appointed commander of the Airborne Forces

Dear GUKTU In this case, I mean Shamans and Shoigu who is called "Shaman" behind his back in the Kremlin lobbies ...

[DRA-88]

Quote: ispaniard

Shoigu who is called “Shaman” behind his back in the Kremlin lobbies ...

Someone Vorobyov Andrei Governor of the Moscow Region Born on April 14, 1970 in Krasnoyarsk in a family of engineers. Father - Yu. L. Vorobyov, born in 1948 in Krasnoyarsk, one of the founders of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, Hero of the Russian Federation, the closest ally of S.K. Shoigu .... What a talented guy is doing everything with his own hands

[Sergei1982]

Russian soldiers "Green Men" outside the window, half of the world already seems to be)

As a point said nothing more and add.

[s1н7т]

Something I doubt that besides us, someone else has heard about the "green men" - not all of the world watch our TV

[DRA-88]

The "People's Army" in the bourgeois state of the Russian Federation and the People's Army in the People's State of the USSR, as they say in Odessa, are two big differences.

[maxbrov74]

But we, unfortunately, do not live in the People’s USSR, but in another state. And it will be necessary, I’ll tear it apart for Russia, so I don’t see the difference, then or now

[s1н7т]

Quote: maxbrov74

it will be necessary, I’ll tear it apart for Russia, so I don’t see the difference, then or now

And how many patriots were ready to break the Union - and where is that Union?

[Denis fj]

The Russian army in recent years has significantly strengthened. An example of this is a bloodless special operation to prevent a war in the Crimea.
It was the soldiers who created the image of professional polite people who calmly carry out their work without any errors.

[timer]

I’ll write so-believe all these ratings, do not respect yourself! Yes, the process has begun and is ongoing. But I have to do MUCH more! I’ll write from myself how I see the processes in the army, and what I can offer (in short): 1) I think that manning the army should be based on a professional-conscription basis (where necessary, serves contractor, and where is the conscript); 2) I believe that the frequency of military exercises should be increased and the professional training of fighters should be strengthened, because a warrior is primarily a professional defender of the Motherland, and then a person; 3) I believe that in the army, equipment should radically change with a frequency of 25 years maximum! Progress and threats do not stand still; 4) propaganda and agitation in the army should be strengthened by an order of magnitude !! (although there is no national idea as such in principle). This is in brief.

[calocha]

I do not believe in any ratings and it is not clear who compiled statistics, but as for weapons, I understand that you need to keep silent somewhere, because there is a secret ... in the Arctic "we are hooked and expanding." I think that we are on the right course, comrades!)

[Wolka]

I still remember M. Gorbachev’s perestroika and the dashing 90s, but Alexander III used to say that Russia has two friends: the Army and the Navy, President Vladimir Putin can be scolded for any mistakes (but he who doesn’t work doesn’t is mistaken), but all that he did in order to return the positive and respect of the Russian people to his Army and Navy is only for this the front should get up and take off his hat ...

[Aleksey_K]

Yes, our most loyal friends are the army, aviation and navy. But I will say about Putin that he is not mistaken. Stupid people rarely worked in the KGB. Everything was built on the mind there. The rest perished. Everything that Putin does, he does consciously and he is not mistaken, because this is exactly what he wants. The ultimate goal of HIS is not known, I think, to anyone. What does he want to create in Russia, what state, what political system - he alone knows. I would very much like our Russia to be for the people, and not for the oligarchs.

[RBLip]

Quote: calocha

you need to keep quiet somewhere to lie because there is a secret ..

why keep silent and lie? here you are, our latest development ...

[Russian jacket]

The boy served two years. According to him, even during his year, much has changed for the better.

[Koronik]

I would like to know what percentage of women surveyed and their opinions. The Russian army is now the 2nd in the world (according to the recognition of the West, the 4th. Although there are still many questions.

[Chaos_Marine]

4th? This is where such nonsense was written?

[A40263S]

Nevertheless, the current situation in the army is very strikingly different from what it was in the late 90s, I remember being a young officer working part time. often elementary was not enough for food, foodstuffs (crumbs) were detained for several months. Now our military has no priority tasks that they and their families will eat tomorrow, where to live, deal with specific military issues and current tasks, increase our combat readiness. I am very happy about such a change!

[bandabas]

I do not argue. I remember the mid-90s. Now the military has become easier. But. Without a strong rear there will be no strong army. And in the civilian world, production is now a complete mess. Outsourcing, reduction, shutdown of production, etc. And at the same time, our leadership makes beautiful eyes. Tomorrow will be better. How many times already heard it.

[St Petrov]

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/


Outsourcing, reduction, shutdown of production, etc.

[ando_bor]

I can say my opinion about the modern army improved greatly when my son served an urgent term, quit last summer, although it had not been clearly negative before. On the Internet you can find almost any information about the army, but it is not possible to formulate an idea of ​​the real situation, inevitably one gets a negative, not being able to filter.
Kubrick for four with shower and bath, washing machines and vacuum cleaners, salary 12-18 tyr. the conscripts, smart equipment, three sets of clothes of the Special Purpose Party, civilian cooks and cleaners still had it under Serdyukov, they called for their son in the summer of 12, and they only drove the soldier out of combat, and drove him hard.
I understand that this is not always the case in the complex, but many elements in most parts are present.
RT recently published a documentary series shot in his battalion - reconnaissance battalion of 34 mountain brigades, his son found only the very beginning of filming, on June 24, 2013 he quit.
I looked briefly at me, nor says anything like that - really filmed, believable.
http://twower.livejournal.com/1365010.html
Recently 6 more episodes in Russian appeared:
http://twower.livejournal.com/1374200.html?thread=84828664#t84828664
The massive custom-made hijacking of an army on the Internet still stopped in 2012,
it can be seen that the "partners" felt something, and the weak army with the image
occupiers do not fit, that’s why they closed the topic in the project of hitting Russia.

[Dinko]

I must tell the truth in most parts the combat training is low. When you look at how officers shoot with personal weapons and have no idea how to hold them right away, it’s immediately clear that they weren’t familiar with them. What can we say about soldiers! Only hard work on combat training can change the situation!

[ODERVIT]

Combat training is not always determined by firing from personal weapons, moreover, in technically difficult types and types of armed forces this element is secondary and of little significance.

[korol yasheriz]

Nobody will give high-quality combat training to conscripts, at least in Russia for sure.
Buy a barrel in civilian life and regularly shoot, ipsc, paintball, etc. - It will be much more useful than sweeping with a crowbar for a year, painting grass and borders with marching circles.

[demel2]

When did you serve? Playball player. My son is now serving in the MP Pacific Fleet, so the training ground is fired two times three times a week, and shooting from an assault rifle does not compare with the scarecrow of a paintboy. IMHO

[Very smart]

Quote: korol yasheriz

Nobody will give high-quality combat training to conscripts, at least in Russia for sure.

And where do you think they will give? In americosii, where are ... soldiers without Coca-Cola not fighting? Israel this way and that, but our people are there. The Chinese can, but there the specifics are our very foundations with an oriental bias.
And if you remembered paintball, then how you forgot computer games. In your opinion, earhooks with two soft fingers for the mouse are the coolest warriors! Do you hear yourself?

[korol yasheriz]

Probably nowhere. This is an conscript. He will not work out for training. He came - and left. Together with the money spent on his training.
On the other hand, can it be for the better? And then you never know how he will use the acquired skills in a civilian
And paintball is just a very useful thing.

[bandabas]

It's okay dinko. About 20 years ago, I didn’t know a lot of things. In the process I learned. And the most interesting thing, I remember what I studied. And try to learn new things. Everything is learned in practice. (Or in battle) :(. With this God was merciful. Lucky or not - I don’t know. I believe that I was lucky. Alive.

[Vladimirets]

"Television, Internet, cinema and literature make a significant contribution to the formation of a positive image of the army."

I think that this is the main reason for the change in attitude towards the army, but for a simple layman far from military subjects, the successful launches of ICBMs, battalion tactical exercises in the Caucasus, or the arrival of a pair of new Su-30s do little. But the background and lighting of all this without protruding chernukha is very good.

[BB14]

Quote: Volka

Vladimir Putin can be scolded as much as he pleases for these or those mistakes (but the one who does not work is not mistaken), but everything that he did to restore the positive and respect of the Russian people to his Army and Navy should be forewarned only for this get up and take off your hat ...

Yesterday, only quite official figures were announced - 15 million migrant workers enter Russia in a year, 14 million leave. In total over the past two decades, about 27 have settled in Russia !!! million !!! Young people in the army go solely from hopelessness and lack of prospects for a civilian, because this is almost the only place where you can earn real money. Everything else is at the mercy of migrant workers, depriving the Russian population of jobs with normal salaries. What do you call mistakes? This is called betrayal!

[tasha]

And I would have to agree with you, but I can’t.

For the sake of interest I looked - in the Novosibirsk region there are 285 welder vacancies. Moreover, 4-th category salary 40 thousand offer. Or here is the tiler per square of 600-1000 rubble. beret. You won’t find it ...
Where are the youth?
On the forums, probably, he sits different, but he spanks comments for the pros and titles virtual ..

[RU-Officer]

Nah, youth (not all, of course ... percent 70) wants to be financiers-lawyers-dentists-models-singers -... Easier-cleaner-no hassle-all at once Ideally - to marry an oligarch, inheritance or some kind of "board of directors"
And if it is really serious: for now, for the same job in Moscow they will pay 120, and in Novosibirsk - 40 thousand rubles. - at least "argue" - they called the wrong country "..." (guess yourself ... )

[RU-Officer]

Well, this is our way - there are cons, but there are no arguments yet
God be with her, with youth, since you don’t understand jokes
It seems - Muscovites are offended. For Russia. I don’t understand one thing: in our country are taxes from enterprises going to the treasury at the place of registration? Or am I missing something? That is why the Moscow elite buys up everything that is bad for the regions! By the way, Novosibirsk, in comparison with other cities, still holds the "raider" strike quite well. Sorry, if the truth pricked.

[St Petrov]

gastrobayter robbed you of your workplace?

BB14 is undoubtedly a betrayal

Putin is to blame for your skills and your job loss. Clear. thank

Laughing at your logic. When someone is a loser, it’s Putin’s betrayal.

And Putin did not build a great wall like ukrov on the border. And this betrayal is yes. Guest workers crawl and crawl - why didn’t Putin stop them right at the checkpoint?

It's time for Putin to go to work in the FMS so that he does not betray anymore

[KBR109]

Ah, how witty you are, delighted. A guest worker would be preferred not because of qualifications, but because he can be paid 1.5 times less, and he will work 1.5 times more a day and under no circumstances will he complain to the police or the labor inspectorate.

[St Petrov]

so in the end - he took your workplace? What are you doing?

[Alexey M]

Yes, now there are guest workers everywhere, from a janitor to a builder, a furniture maker, a mechanic, etc. And by the way they pay them not much less than Russians. Only they don’t have social programs and they don’t have to pay a tax.

[An60]

As in China, there is no social network there either. And pensions.

[demel2]

My son went to serve, obviously not out of hopelessness, he is pleased, he likes it. Going to a contract.

[St Petrov]

you right here broke this realm of moans and lamentations
You must have been paid for comment from the Kremlin, traitors

Everything is bad in the country, and you write such blasphemy here

[BB14]

Quote: demel2

My son went to serve, obviously not out of hopelessness, he is pleased, he likes it. Going to a contract.

C'mon ... what will he do in civilian life, plow for three cents up to 60 years old? The kid understood all this perfectly and chose a different path. In a prosperous USSR, he removed his overcoat on a demobilization in the very first grocery store, bought a civilian suit and forgot the last couple of years like a dream, because all roads ahead were open.

[St Petrov]

What did you do to ensure that there was no 91-year revolution?

So touches when the older generation is nostalgic for the USSR. The main thing is not to forget that the country was prosrali, and capitalism came precisely with that generation

And about plowing for 3 cents - to whom what is given. Putin here vryatli to blame

And present to businessmen about gastrobayterov, but not Putin. The main thing is sometimes to turn on your head and not take off your guilt for what they did to the country with the connivance of the masses

Although what am I talking about, such insignificant characters would better turn arrows on others and blame anyone but their own troubles

And yes, I would look at your body movements when you have your own business. I would see how you hire only Russians, flailing gastrobayters

Well, I would have looked at you in the place of Putin, although no, it’s impossible to save as in the game, but to entrust the country to such characters who blame everyone except themselves — it’s a bad business

[DRA-88]

Quote: s-t Petrov

What did you do to ensure that there was no 91-year revolution?

I’ll clarify, not a revolution, but a counter-revolutionary coup!

[BB14]

Quote: c-Petrov

What did you do to ensure that there was no 91-year revolution?

So touches when the older generation is nostalgic for the USSR. The main thing is not to forget that the country was prosrali, and capitalism came precisely with that generation

And about plowing for 3 cents - to whom what is given. Putin here vryatli to blame

And present to businessmen about gastrobayterov, but not Putin. The main thing is sometimes to turn on your head and not take off your guilt for what they did to the country with the connivance of the masses

Although what am I talking about, such insignificant characters would better turn arrows on others and blame anyone but their own troubles

Okay, I repent, we ourselves are to blame. Spring has passed, summer has come thanks to Putin for this! Putin is finally out of business and is not responsible for anything. Only on H. he is so beautiful we need then ???

[St Petrov]

uh) Well, judging by what you write, it’s clear why we are talking about 60 kopecks and the fact that gastrobiter has competed with you in the labor market.

Putin is to blame for your failures. Sorry that I doubted it.

[BB14]

If you were kind enough to achieve something in life yourself, you wouldn’t write a similar crap with the avatar of Joseph Vissarionovich. You are either a juvenile jerk, or an ordinary bastard. Putin with Stalin on ava?))) You do not have enough brains to understand even a small fraction of the essence of this stupidity.

[St Petrov]

Go read the constitution, so as not to carry this nonsense anymore, what are you talking about

Looking at you, I understand that it’s not age. You can live for many years, but you can understand a little.

If you had brains - I think you would be ashamed of what you wrote) you would hit yourself on the forehead and you could hear abuse

Anti-Putin * a

Zazyuganovets

[DRA-88]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Putin is to blame for your failures. Sorry that I doubted it.

The President bears full responsibility for the domestic and foreign policy of the Russian Federation. it’s constitutional, if that.

[St Petrov]

[St Petrov]

in the constitution (which was originally in English, then it was translated into Russian by the Kremlin) a lot of water is written and so much concrete. DRA - you're about water right now. The specifics of it are in a different plane. The picture above is given. And Volodya laid his hand on her at one time, vowed to follow all the algorithms and procedures that are prescribed in this book

So everything is simple only with BB14. And when the head turns on and the analysis is carried out, a lot of complex and contradictory pops up. And the situation when everything is smeared with white and black does not work here.

Therefore, when I read the text of an adult husband:

Spring has passed, summer has come thanks to Putin for this! Putin is finally out of business and is not responsible for anything. Only on hen he so beautiful we need then ???

I don’t know, roofing felts are upset, roofing felts smile. but the character is funny. It’s a pity that it’s too old, if there was a child, everything would not be so sad and you could understand all this

[BB14]

Are you really dumb to such an extent ??? When an outspoken fool undertakes to interpret the Constitution from pictures, I don’t know to cry or laugh ... The Constitution of the Russian Federation is interpreted by the Constitutional Court, whose judges are appointed by the Federation Council at the suggestion of the Presidentcontinue to continue ???

[St Petrov]

Continue on the smartest. Say what is wrong in the picture. Where did you lie in the picture?

I may be dumb, but I don’t blame Putin for the amount of his salary and the fact that my guesthouse took my place)

Available? I’m somehow trying to increase my RFP by improving my qualifications, therefore, for the whole of Tajikistan, there are God forbid 1000 people who can do what I do at work)

Although loading pallets in the warehouse - here the competition with Tajikistan will be lost to me

[BB14]

I don’t talk with nerds, enough of them in my life without you)

[St Petrov]

Well then, yes, go compete with guest workers) Putin's blame and talk with smart people)

[BB14]

Quote: c-Petrov

I may be dumb, but I don’t blame Putin for the amount of his salary and the fact that my guesthouse took my place)

Available? I’m somehow trying to increase my RFP by improving my qualifications, therefore, for the whole of Tajikistan, there are God forbid 1000 people who can do what I do at work)

The rarest idiot)))

[St Petrov]

Oil painting "My Struggle against Putin" 2014

From the very first post on this site)

Comrade beggar, no one except you is to blame for your poverty. Do not project your problems throughout the country and do not write for everyone.

Make your own business, hire Russian people to work - make a decent salary. Invest money from your profits in infrastructure. And pay a white salary.

Show your example so to speak

And if you tell me now that this is unrealistic - I will tell you that it is difficult - but real. And I will give examples)

[BB14]

You better show your oil painting aligarh fucking! He is able to judge life only by demotivators and sites from the category "made by us". I bet that I didn’t serve a military service, it’s good if at least it’s fit for non-combatant ...

[St Petrov]

) Better not argue, you will become even poorer.

about the rest - I will never present to anyone that I receive little, except for myself.

To blame Putin for this - my tongue will not turn. And the logic will not let me down to this conclusion) actually it hooked me when I read your smartest posts)

[BB14]

Citizen Trollidze - go to hr! I was never interested in archives of other people's messages, but I could not resist it and it turned out not in vain. Here you are successful which one:

It depends on who I decided to become at one time, and on how I work specifically, and no one is to blame for the fact that I'm still without a car.

I've seen enough to judge the army
lived in a military town all his life conscious
in the barracks, too, I lived quite a few

Such a track record in your achievements does not fit in somehow. From all sides, the successful one couldn’t even get lost on the typewriter, but he darted his fingers fancifully ...

"in the barracks, too, I lived quite a few"worthy in the quotation book.

[St Petrov]

I lived in three barracks for a year in each) Anyone can afford a car now and this is not a sign of success))) The question is what to do with it and where to drive it.

I did not bend my fingers) I did not tell you that I am rich, and you are a beggar)

Calling you a pauper - I just quoted your first post on this forum

All I want - I have. And why not - Putin is not to blame for this - but I myself.

And Putin is your fault. And this is ridiculous)

[BB14]

Quote: c-Petrov

I lived in three barracks, each year)

Likewise in the quotation book !!!))) I'm afraid to even imagine what a picturesque description of your "service" will be in some sort of secret "special forces"))))

[DRA-88]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Available? I’m somehow trying to increase my RFP by improving my qualifications, therefore, for the whole of Tajikistan, there are God forbid 1000 people who can do what I do at work)

[Countermeasure]

Have you respected at least one person in your life led ?, were responsible for his actions? If not, your comments have nothing to do with reality.

[Countermeasure]

Have you respected at least one person in your life led ?, were responsible for his actions? If not, your comments have nothing to do with reality.

[schumrik]

I will answer you.
1st: in 1991 I was 13 years old.
2nd: "to plow for 60 kopecks", everyone gets as much as he wants, and there is no need to talk about the high cost of education, study at work, study. And if you are not interested in studying, well, so you choose, you are free what you want then you get.
3rd: I disagree a bit about Putin, power is given to a person in order to limit the desires of other people / sorry, but you must understand that people’s desires are very interesting, and everyone thinks that you understand / for the good of all people. and, in fact, the president must fight with businessmen, make them comply with the laws of R.F. I have been working in construction for 5 years, but I don’t even know what the contract looks like, zp is about 61000, and I think the increase after the new year is it’s not enough, but now calculate how many taxes my employer didn’t pay? I’m just for, introduce laws, pay taxes. I agree. But decision-making and control of higher people, and Putin appoints and checks them! His job! Yes, the employer will pay taxes, so I would like, well, but no, well, no, anyway.
4th: I agree with you 100%

[roninas]

I served for two years, no longer in a very prosperous USSR (1987-1989) and am satisfied, although I would not call the service honey, I served in the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they literally stopped in my home unit for a month))) to rest, and the rest of the time on business trips. I have never regretted the "lost" years in my life

[Raider]

The army is a mirror of our society. It was a shame before, when the media only "pecked" our army. Not without the help of the West, of course. "Hazing" and "community" it comes from "citizenship". They don't teach this in the army. Our children serve there and it turns out that we sow, then we reap. Judging by the current situation, the situation in the army is changing in a good direction, which means that society is also changing positively. After the arrival of Shoigu, the Ministry of Defense became open, brought back the old traditions of the army and how much new was introduced (shower, cleaning, etc.). There is nothing to say about the replacement of weapons, God forbid, that the process does not stop. The people gained confidence in their army. Look at what contests for military schools? Even among the girls. To be in the military, to defend their homeland among young people is becoming prestigious. When the army is strong, we all walk with our heads held high. The main thing is not to forget that all this is laid in the family from childhood.

[Vita_vko]

Now the main problem is in the development of new types of weapons and military equipment. In particular, the Ministry of Defense plans in 2014 to bring the equipment of the Russian army with modern weapons and equipment to the level of 30%. But what does new mean? At best, this word means a deep modernization of the samples developed during the Soviet Union. And if earlier there was competition in the environment of military research institutes and design bureaus to create promising weapons, and competitions were held to determine the best solution, now the development process has turned into lobbying the interests of certain companies, corporations and even the personal interests of "developers" with connections to the Ministry of Defense ... From here and the result - promising ideas and developments, in which you definitely need to invest money and risk moving into the far corner, and old tried-and-true solutions, from which manufacturers get the maximum profit, are issued as know-how.

[Volvitalij]

So we always had

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Vita_vko

But what does the new mean? At best, this word refers to deep modernization of designs developed even under the Union.

Don’t get excited like that, in the US Army (and this is the most powerful army now, the weapons of which are in many NATO countries and its constituent parts), you can also say all the weapons are deeply modernized old models, released even when the Union was alive: the Abrams tank, Apache, Black Hawk, Cobra, BMD Bradley helicopters, a Hummer jeep, an M4A1 automatic rifle, a shortened M16, an M60 machine gun, all F aircraft, the same F111, not to mention the B52 strategic bombers. Everything that the United States has is all old, but modernized, new, except perhaps Javelin, Aegis, and UAVs.

[St Petrov]

Germany is also backward, like Russia, everything is modernizing its leopards. No, to reinvent something

Eh

Israel, too, has not far gone with its merkava. everything is modernizing and modernizing

Where are the blasters ?????? Where is the death star? Where is new ????

Oath corrupt! Serdyukovschina! Guard!

[Aleksey_K]

Speak accurately. I will only add: Accepted weapons last for several decades and this is a common practice, they are gradually being modernized for major repairs. And the Aegis system, for example, although new, is still tested only on intercepting 3 objects. That is, like F-35, they are trying to implement incompletely tested systems and as soon as possible to replace outdated ones, hoping in the course of operation for a deeper (high-quality) modernization.

[Countermeasure]

The first UAVs were developed by the USSR, and with the function of autonomous flight. The reserve for development is far from exhausted.

[Countermeasure]

The first UAVs were developed by the USSR, and with the function of autonomous flight. The reserve for development is far from exhausted.

[ODERVIT]

Surveys, of course, are encouraging, but for me, their prestige barometer. It is simple - the number of military personnel moving around the city in military uniform. So, for 2-3 years, no one is embarrassed to wear a uniform and does not take it off after the end of official time. Primitive analysis, I agree, but nevertheless it is indicative and reflects the real situation.

[Patriot2012]

Why is Serdyukov not yet under trebunal?

[KBR109]

Because his son-in-law - Zubkov + is protected by those who appointed the MoD: the President and Prime Minister are current. You might think I’m discovering America for you.

[BB14]

Funny little people, huh? I am reading and wondering ... It would seem that there should not be snotty trolls here, but no - through one with his own babble and silly questions that do not require any answer at all.

[Aleksey_K]

In Russia, there is no "demand", and therefore not under the demand. Now, if everyone is demanding a demand, then Putin only makes a helpless gesture: "And we don't have such an organization, how can you imprison or prosecute a non-existent organization?"

[dmb]

"But from taiga to British ...", - further in the text. God grant us to avoid a real test, because it can only be a war. In 1941, too, much was said about "Stalinist blows" and little blood.

[lom]

the army was reduced many times and what remained of the army is well armed and it’s right, only 700 thousand are not enough for Russia if they want to leave for partisan volunteers

[Aleksey_K]

No, they want to leave on the threat of inadequate use of nuclear weapons against the aggressor encroaching on the territory of our country.

[lom]

it is written on paper and in life if you have the courage to use dactrin in our country, then we’ll have to hit nuclear weapons in our own territory --- yeah

[Cat]

And why question ordinary citizens who have nothing to do with the Army at all? What can they say? On the "like-dislike" level. My personal opinion is that you should ask those who have served for more than one year or two. Only those who cooked in this "mess" for a long time can understand all the shortcomings. But their opinion is not asked.

[secondoy]

So, the poll was conducted by the Public Opinion Foundation. Society is not only served.
And again, the article says "As a result, the FOM invited citizens (men) to answer the question, did they serve in the army themselves. The results are as follows: 76% of the respondents said that they did serve, 23% did not."
I do not understand your indignation)

[Cat]

Citizens who answered that they served are brazenly lying. Sofa trolls. Like half of those hanging out on this site.

[Cat]

Mn-uh. I probably got a little excited

[Aleksey_K]

I served, only for a long time.

[Dragon-y]

I would like to properly equip the troops with communication means, so that they do not run with the R-107M (or even the R-159) "on the hump" ... And in the units they replaced the telephones released 40 years ago ...

[wanderer]

The time has come when OUR ARMY was vilified by whoever could, starting with the Murzilka magazine and ending with Ogonyok.
... everyone thought it necessary to write about the Army exclusively it was crap, without thinking about where it would lead, .... Time was like that ... but it has passed.
THE ARMY IS REBORNING, THE NEW SAMPLES OF ARMS ARE COMING (I see it).
============ I BELIEVE IN RUSSIA !!! ====== I BELIEVE IN THE RUSSIAN ARMY !!! ======

[Aydar]

Under the flag you posted, lost the White Movement and lost the RONA and ROA Vlasova. The flag of the winning army should look like this:

[BB14]

Quote: c-Petrov

gastrobayter robbed you of your workplace?

BB14 is undoubtedly a betrayal

Putin is to blame for your skills and your job loss. Clear. thank

Laughing at your logic. When someone is a loser, it’s Putin’s betrayal.

And Putin did not build a great wall like ukrov on the border. And this betrayal is yes. Guest workers crawl and crawl - why didn’t Putin stop them right at the checkpoint?

It's time for Putin to go to work in the FMS so that he does not betray anymore

Is everything all right with your head? Do you understand what you mean? You were given official figures that every year a million migrant workers settle in Russia. It settles !!! You and a few who share your point of view above are probably just the very losers who are sitting either on a freebie or on someone's neck. Any normal person can understand without words that if you have a five-room apartment or a huge house, this does not mean that empty rooms or squares need to be populated by newcomers. Best of all, the scale of the catastrophe reaches even the most stubborn, when I suggest that they simply settle the alien people according to the principle, the room is still empty, immediately the brains fall into place !!!

Quote: tasha

And I would have to agree with you, but I can’t.

For the sake of interest I looked - in the Novosibirsk region there are 285 welder vacancies. Moreover, 4-th category salary 40 thousand offer. Or here is the tiler per square of 600-1000 rubble. beret. You won’t find it ...
Where are the youth?
On the forums, probably, he sits different, but he spanks comments for the pros and titles virtual ..

So go work as a welder for 40 thousand. A lot of things are also written on the fence, but the employment service needs to portray the appearance of vigorous activity.

[tasha]

Quote: BB14

So go work as a welder for 40 thousand. A lot of things are also written on the fence, but the employment service needs to portray the appearance of vigorous activity.

As I understand it, you are losing their quality in the pursuit of the number of comments.

[BB14]

They don’t seem to pay for the amount of money) I’m staying with the night shift, I write as I can, anyway we write in the void ...

[tasha]

Your comment has been read.

[Gardamir]

In order to speak out about the army, you must have. at least some relation to her. Therefore, I judge one episode. The capture of Russian paratroopers by Ukrainians. And then how quickly the paratroopers betrayed. Therefore, to such an army, the symbol of which is a star of Vlasov color, I have a sharply negative.

[KBR109]

Do you believe in comprehensive corruption in Russia? With which they are trying to organize a show-off fight only at the lowest echelons. Apparently our fish rots from the tail ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

I’ll simply say: today the army is better than yesterday, and tomorrow it will be better than today, the process has started, and is gaining momentum. and the army is wretched by traitors and traitors ...

[BB14]

The main thing is that it did not work out in the end, on one with a seokha seven with machine guns ...

[corvin.7]

I do not really believe in polls, because it all depends on how you ask the question. About 37 percent is very likely, only the remaining 63 will most likely answer differently. I’m in the army on 23 calendars, I found 90, if they were wrong. Do you know what scares? Serdyukov left, but the methods are still alive. "It doesn't matter to me why not, it matters to me what you did to make it YES!"

[RoTTor]

All "sotsOPOROSY" - adjustment to the result ordered by us, paid by the customer, like a bad schoolboy, adjusting to the answer
.
In order for the opinion of the army to really improve, you must first plant for life not only Taburetkin-Serdyukov and his military-sexual harem, but also all those who destroyed the army, military schools, military-industrial complex.
Well, ask the military themselves - first of all.

[KBR109]

What is your opinion, dear Marshal Andrei Yurievich, regarding the last two comments from Corvin and ROTTOR? I'm so plus with both hands. You apparently have a different opinion and these opponents of yours are traitors ...

[Password]

I am skeptical about the surveys of all kinds of funds that are content with those in power, for they are often custom-made and predetermined. But I really want, as a citizen of Russia, to be proud of our Army and country.

[Akulina]

Who does not want to feed his army, he will feed someone else's - this is not invented by us. The army should have all the best, and twice as much and better than the potential enemy. The equipment and the military should look so that even looking in their direction was scary. One can only welcome all that is being done now in Russia for the Army - and for all of us, in the final analysis.

[BB14]

Akulina, you just have to decide the army for the people, or the people for the army, and the question can be closed.

[97110]

Several people said that it was difficult to answer this question. Have you really forgotten? ..

My son and my deputy (age difference 35 years) recall their military service. Both graduated from RIIZhT, service - 45 days of training. They excitedly tell each other how it happened in the same place with a difference of 35 years. I nevertheless served 1,5 years of compulsory military service in the positions of privates and sergeants, in 1986 I spent 4 months in the Bragin district of the Gomel region. Giggled, looking approvingly at the "warrior".

[valersvet]

even though I didn’t marshal the plus current of the rotor
but there’s no cow, somehow indiscriminately ...

[Massik]

An interesting article, if you already output data for 2007-2011, since 2006 is the starting point. It gives the impression of juggling facts and thickening colors.

[RSU]

The military made a human salary - that’s the attitude in society has changed.

[pamero]

read Kuprin's "Duel" !!! everything will become clear ...

[Ivan 63]

The answer of the adherents of Serdyukov and the women's battalion is understandable, as well as those who "do not remember" about which category they belong to. I wish the Commander-in-Chief and Shoigu further positives, Russia has two allies ...

[hedgehog in the fog]

the last 2 fighters in the photo, you unmask the squad, correct ... with respect

[hedgehog in the fog]

Quote: Karabanov

Quote: ispaniard

units of the LATEST military equipment delivered to the troops.

I came across a funny article here, not a fake
RUSSIAN PATENTED A TANK FIRING CREW EXTRAMS
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=898097
Here is more detailed:
http://scisne.net/a1440

Go kill the dibil

[Tyler77]

if you want a strong and professional army - remove 30% of the papers. we spend more paper than ammo. reports, reports, reports, photo reports, reports ... each splinter-investigation, colds-investigation. It would be good, but the benefits of this are zero !!! There are people who want to do business. Do not bother them!

[Evgeniy667b]

Quite recently, he very closely touched the life of the military on the farthest borders of Russia, on the Kuril island of Kunashir. Immediately I want to note the presence of a large number of selfish interests, especially among officers. On all grandmothers do, on diesel fuel, material property. What are the interests of the Motherland? Kruzak is more important. And the soldiers are left to their own devices. A couple of years ago, even the riot was firing. The Japanese once conducted a survey of how much our citizens from the Kuril Islands want to accept their citizenship. The answer is easy to guess. But the most malicious poachers and plunderers of biological resources are precisely Russian, homegrown. They are easier to drown in the sea than to appeal to conscience and reason. If the army there were just the army, this would not have happened.

[Brummbar]

Everything is going according to plan ... Trolls perked up, don't like it.

[Dinko]

Quote: ODERVIT

Combat training is not always determined by firing from personal weapons, moreover, in technically difficult types and types of armed forces this element is secondary and of little significance.

If you are not a complete d ... then you should understand that the main work on the modern battlefield is done by the infantry. But in others, as you put it, "technically difficult to equip types and arms of troops" the situation is no better!