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Once again about the Sakhalin incident. Part two

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Once again about the Sakhalin incident. Part two


Most unusual in stories The Sakhalin incident is that out of almost 300 people flying on the Boeing, NO ONE body was found! But they should have been there, fastened to the seats as anchors, or should have surfaced if they had time to put on life jackets. For all the time of the search, a tuft of hair was taken and a supposedly severed hand in the sleeve and glove. Everything! And where are the passengers? After all, the fact that they died is for sure, but where are their bodies?

The bottom in the area of ​​the alleged fall of the Boeing is as flat as a table, and the depths do not exceed 120 m, which implies the normal operation of divers and even more rescue underwater vehicles. Through 2, exactly the same Boeing-10 Indian airline exploded in the sky over the Atlantic at an altitude of 747 km. On the first day of the search, the bodies of the 123 passengers were found, the next day another 8 and after a month of deep sea exploration, 4 - another one strapped to the wheelchair.

The democratic press, which supported the version of the treachery of the Soviet Union, claims that the bodies were eaten by sea crayfish. However, according to William Newmann, a professor of marine biology at one of the major universities in California, "even if it was assumed that crustaceans or sharks or anyone else had attacked the flesh, skeletons should have remained. There are many examples when the bottom was able to detect skeletons that had lain there for many years and even decades. Besides, the crustaceans will not touch the bones. " James Oberg, author of the book "Investigate Soviet Disasters", also excludes the likelihood that the matter is in crustaceans. "The water is cold there, sea creatures are therefore much less active than, say, in tropical waters. And, therefore, the possibility of preserving the remains is higher than if the plane fell in one of the warm seas."

No less unusual than the absence of bodies, the strange nature of the wreckage seems. Divers did not find any burnt things. And according to the composition of the finds, it seemed that the plane was loaded by someone with random, already unnecessary things.

One of the divers told reporters of the newspaper "Izvestia": "I have a very clear impression: the plane was stuffed with garbage, and people most likely were not there. Why? Well, if a plane crashes, even a small one, as a rule, there should be suitcases, handbags, at least handles from suitcases ... And there was such that, I think, normal people should not carry in the plane ... All clothes are like from the landfill — pieces are torn from it. Or as if shot through - pierced in many places. I personally have not met any remains. We almost worked a month! And practically nothing. It was not enough and wearing things - jackets there, raincoats, shoes - very little. And the fact that they found - some sort of torn! Here we found, say, a scattering of powders. They remained intact, opened up. But, strangely, everyone has a broken mirror inside. Plastic cases are completely intact, and the mirrors are all broken. Or umbrellas: everything is in covers, in whole covers - not even torn. What kind of blow was supposed to be ?! ”

No less curious is the story of Vladimir Zakharchenko, the chief of the diving service of the Arktikmorneftegazrazvedka production association: “The depth there was 174 meters. The soil is even, dense - sand and small shell. Without any differences in depth. And literally on the third day we found the plane. I had an idea that he would be whole. Well, maybe a little crumpled. Divers will go inside this aircraft and everyone will see what is there ... "The special ship" Sprut "worked on an even more interesting object. Unfortunately, civilian divers understand little about airplanes. All they understood was that there was a lot of equipment and magnetic recording devices on board. The divers were struck by three main points: firstly, the abundance of electronic devices that was completely unreasonable for the liner — a whole truck, which clearly exceeds the amount of electronics on a passenger plane; secondly, kilometers of magnetic film on reels and “bulk” that enveloped everything around; thirdly, there is an abundance of paper, not newspapers or bright magazines, which a passenger takes on flight, namely А4 sheets with some official documentation. Found a large number of “black boxes”: “It was a bright red ball the size of a volleyball”; "They looked like big donuts"; “They were horseshoe-shaped”; "They were 7." The head of the search, Admiral Sidorov, said: "They were 9." It was clearly not from one aircraft, and, of course, not from KAL 007. (Reference: Black Boxes of the Boeing 747 are two orange waterproof shockproof blocks of 20x5X8 and 13x5X8 inches with a transmitter to search for them; they record the last 30 minutes of pilots talk and the last 24 hours of flight data; search them; , the safest place in a disaster.) And, again, the lack of bodies. The bodies of the crew of this aircraft had already been lifted out of the water by someone who arrived at the scene first. There is evidence that it was a guard-guard patrol boat.



We will not know, of course, that Americans have been raised from the bottom. But - about the Japanese finds.

These were parts of US combat aircraft: the American-made McDonnell-Douglas ACES II ejection seat, shot from the F-15 fighter; aileron aircraft electronic warfare EF-111; a fragment of the wing is again the American strategic intelligence officer SR-71. As they say, no words. Moreover, errors in the identification of fragments can not be. The ailerons of the EF-111 have a unique, inherent configuration, and the only combat aircraft with a titanium skin in 1983 was the SR-71. A famous French specialist - a man whose profession is to investigate air crashes - the Frenchman Michel Brun, relying on his many years of experience and diverse professional training, conducted his own investigation. Based on the available data, he claims that that night a real air battle took place in the skies over Sakhalin, not launching a rocket from Osipovich’s plane on an unintentionally lost Korean liner, namely a fierce clash between Soviet and American military aircraft, with downed and casualties at least American side. In the course of this battle, which lasted several hours, a group of a dozen American aircraft: reconnaissance aircraft of various types, directors of electronic jamming, escort fighters that intentionally invaded Soviet airspace, was destroyed by Soviet air defense pilots who defended the inviolability of the country's borders with honor.

EF-111 Raven

SR-71

But we will continue. So, in the place of the alleged fall of the liner debris confirming his fall was not found. But, after 8 days after the tragedy, pieces of plating, debris, remnants of luggage were dumped in large quantities on the Japanese coast of Honshu Island, they were found in Hokkaido. The explanation was given as follows: “material evidence” from the deceased Boeing drifted with the flow and thus “sailed” to the Japanese coast from the north, from the place where the fallen plane fell. It seems to be all logical. With the exception of one very significant circumstance, at the end of August and in September there is not a single current in the region of Moneron Island and Sakhalin, which would drive waves from north to south. Only from south to north! And add to this, according to the weather reports, while a steady wind was blowing toward the continent. And then how could pieces of Boeing and material evidence reach Japan against the wind and against the current? Nature does not play political secrets, so there can be only one explanation: fragments of the passenger Boeing brought to the Japanese coast and Sakhalin really over, but not invented - from north to south, and now - from south to north. Consequently, the liner broke into the sea far south of Moneron.



Until now, the mystery of another find that sailed to Wakkanai in Hokkaido, along with fragments of the South Korean Boeing, remains unanswered - the remnants of a military missile empennage with a marking is by no means Soviet. An official press release was also compiled regarding this find, but it was never published, and the physical evidence itself is kept under seven stamps at the maritime security department in Wakkanai. For some reason, such an unprecedented fact, as the direction of the special US Navy plane, which is far from Moneron square of the Sea of ​​Japan, does not cause any questions, is usually used in rescue operations. This flight, recorded by Japanese radars, took place at the same time and in the very same place where the South Korean Boeing really lies, near the Japanese island of Kyurokushima, not far from Sado Island. The US military did not appear there either before or after the fateful day, but two weeks later after the Boeing crash - 13 of September 1983 of the year - for some reason it was here that the Soviet reconnaissance planes, which the Japanese fighters sent to intercept, violated Japanese airspace ... Thus, over Sakhalin with the KAL 007 flight liner nothing happened. And further.

In addition, which is quite natural, not only the CIA recorded negotiations in the air. The recording was carried out in a completely routine order by the flight control service in Tokyo and Niigata, however, at other frequencies allocated by the civilian aviationdue to which, apparently, the CIA’s hands did not reach her. So, it turned out that KAL 007, supposedly shot down at 03.38 Tokyo time, calmly went on the air 50 minutes after its “death”, and it went out not in emergency mode, as it would in case of damage, but in routine mode.

He was at the time of going on the air at the last control point on the way to Seoul, located on the abeam of Niigata near Sado Island, that is, almost over the Korean Strait, and it took him no more than an hour to fly before landing. And then his mark disappeared from the Niigata radar screen. In Seoul KAL 007 has not arrived. Now it is as clear as day that Colonel Osipovich did not hit the Korean airliner. If we return directly to the KAL 007 flight, then there is no doubt that the crew of Captain Chun Ben-Ina was apparently recruited by the CIA or the US military intelligence to participate in a major intelligence operation. They had to “mess up” in the sky over Kamchatka with the reconnaissance aircraft RC-135 — after all, their configuration is so similar that the most experienced eye at night does not distinguish them from each other. After that, Chun tossed aside and left the Soviet airspace, rounding Sakhalin from the east and entering the Japanese over the La Peruz Strait. In turn, RC-135, “pretending” to be a peaceful airliner, crossed the cherished goal - Sakhalin, not without reason believing that the Russians would not shoot at him! At the same time, in view of the disorganization of the Soviet air defense, several more American cars, including the EF-111 and SR-71, should have been crammed into their espionage cases. These also had a “seat belt” —high speed and flight ceiling. But the Soviet air defense is clearly underestimated. As you can see, our soldiers and officers quickly figured out who is who. And what about the KAL007 Boeing? But after this carnage, he simply had no right to survive, which was clearly not told to Captain Chun and his crew. On such an account, it was simply necessary to make secure with the help of an on-line interceptor. And when the failure of the operation became apparent, the Americans literally hid all the ends in the water.

And this is no longer a version. In 1997, a former high-ranking employee of the Japanese military intelligence said that the South Korean Boeing 747 was performing the task of the American special services. The details of this event are set out in the book “The Truth about the KAL-007 flight”, which was written by retired officer Yoshiro Tanaka, who led before listening to retirement electronic listening of the Soviet military facilities from the tracking station in Wakkanai, in the very north of Hokkaido. This object, by the way, recorded the negotiations of the Soviet pilots who were chasing the South Korean plane on the night of August 31 on September 1 of 1983.

Tanaka based his statements on the analysis of data on the extremely strange route of the liner, as well as on the information provided by Russia at the 1991 to Russia about the Soviet radio communications in connection with this incident. As a result of his own research, a former Japanese intelligence officer came to the conclusion that the American intelligence services deliberately sent a South Korean passenger plane to Soviet airspace to cause a stir in the USSR air defense system and to reveal its secret and usually silent objects. According to Tanaka, the United States at that time made every effort to gather information about the Soviet air defense system in the Far East, which in 1982 was modernized and significantly strengthened. American reconnaissance aircraft had previously regularly violated the airspace of the USSR in the area of ​​the death of the South Korean Boeing-747, but they could fly there only for a very short time. That is why, the Japanese expert believed, the passenger liner was chosen for the operation, which, according to the US intelligence, could fly over Soviet air defense facilities for a long time with impunity.

To be continued ...

The final part will be a restored chronology of events and a separate version from the former deputy representative of ICAO in Montreal.

Material used:
Michel Brun. Sakhalin incident.
Mukhin Yu.I. The Third World over Sakhalin, or Who shot down the Korean liner?
Korean "Boeing-747" shot down over Sakhalin // http://www.100velikih.com.
Mazur Wolf. "Black Birds" over Sakhalin: who hit the Korean "Boeing"? // Airport.
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  1. Baloo
    Baloo 14 November 2014 08: 24
    +11
    On our TV there was a program with a fragment of the burial found by our rescuers. It coincides with the above. I remember a thick bundle of passports.
  2. Almatinets
    Almatinets 14 November 2014 08: 55
    +3
    KAL eat feces
  3. 0255
    0255 14 November 2014 09: 15
    +8
    When will Russia declassify various documents and reports of Soviet air defense officers about the incident with the Korean Boeing? So far, we are obediently repeating the official American version.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 14 November 2014 09: 57
      +14
      Quote: 0255
      So far, we are obediently repeating the official American version.
      On the sinking of the Kursk, in fact, is also the "official American version." I well remember the words of Admiral Popov on TV, about his desire to look into the eyes of the one who sank our boat. It looks like he did it.
      Then, in August 2000, the commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, from the TV screen throughout the country expressed his condolences to the families of the dead submariners, apologized to them and promised to look in the eyes of the one who was guilty of the Kursk tragedy ... Two years ago, in the Severomorsk administration, Speaking to the families of the deceased submarine nuclear submarines, Vyacheslav Alekseevich recalled: “I kept my promise, looked into his eyes. But I can’t name this person yet ... "
      1. saag
        saag 14 November 2014 11: 46
        +7
        Quote: Per se.
        “I kept my promise, looked into his eyes. But I can’t name this person yet ... "

        Is his surname too famous to be called out loud?
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 14 November 2014 13: 41
          +2
          Quote: saag
          Is his surname too famous to be called out loud?

          Most likely, the point is not in the name of the commander of the American submarine, but in the past agreements with the United States, to suppress the true causes of the tragedy, of course, not for nothing, the Yankees then bought off, and hushed up the incident. There are many different versions, from the official one to the fact that our own rocket hit the Kursk that had drifted off. Obviously, we will not find out soon, if at all. Here is one of the links for the irides, but there is a lot more information on the topic for anyone interested in looking: http://nvdaily.ru/info/31286.html.
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 14 November 2014 13: 57
        +4
        Quote: Per se.
        the death of the Kursk is, in fact, also the "official American version." I well remember the words of Admiral Popov on TV, about his desire to look into the eyes of the one who sank our boat. It looks like he did it.

        Do you remember the mark on the ship's hull, punched into the hull, and then the question what happened to Kursk? the answer "He drowned" Intersno to whom and how much they paid for the torpedo attack of the nuclear-powered ship.
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 14 November 2014 20: 12
          0
          Quote: valokordin
          Intersno to whom and how much they paid for the torpedo attack of the nuclear submarine.
          If we assume that the Americans sank our boat, then it is unlikely that they paid the "cowboy" who sank the Kursk out of fright (he was too "friendly" then to the United States), just as he personally was proud of the murder of our sailors, well, he really should to be a scum ...
        2. mervino2007
          mervino2007 16 November 2014 00: 34
          0
          valokordin (2) RU  "to whom and how much they paid for the torpedo attack of the nuclear-powered ship".

          http://www.thewalls.ru/parshev/submarine.htm - тут подробности СТОЛКНОВЕНИЯ "Курска" и американской ПЛ. Причём американцы ударили носом в бок Курска, часть следа этого удара и осталась на боку корпуса Курска.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 14 November 2014 20: 12
      +3
      This incident was the reason to call the USSR an evil empire. Then why wasn't the truth put in on our part, and all the events were covered as Washington presented them? The only difference is whether the passenger plane "got lost" by accident.
      1. almost demobil
        almost demobil 15 November 2014 04: 34
        +2
        There is an excellent documentary called "Kursk in troubled waters". Who is interested - look.
      2. stels_07
        stels_07 23 February 2021 14: 19
        0
        Reagan could say that he would be pressured for 6-9 lost planes and he would need to do something about the Union, but he had to tell the whole truth
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  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 November 2014 09: 24
    +2
    When you probably find out the truth. But I'm afraid it will not be soon.
  5. Gray 43
    Gray 43 14 November 2014 09: 27
    +9
    Thanks to the author for the article, very interesting !!!!! Very reminiscent of a provocation with a Malaysian airliner in the Donbass
    1. Kapitan Oleg
      Kapitan Oleg 14 November 2014 13: 35
      +6
      It’s not just reminiscent, but it cries outright!
  6. qwert
    14 November 2014 09: 28
    +6
    Quote: 0255
    declassify various documents and reports of Soviet air defense officers about the incident with the Korean Boeing?
    In the last years of the USSR and the first decade after its collapse, there was an active cleaning of archives. Some documents were destroyed, while others were falsified. Will be declassified after the death of eyewitnesses of those events. And there will most likely be pure Hollywood.
  7. Codename49
    Codename49 14 November 2014 09: 28
    +2
    Yes, we are waiting for the continuation !!!
  8. alleksSalut4507
    alleksSalut4507 14 November 2014 09: 45
    +1
    if everything is as in the article, obviously it is necessary to give more information to the "world community" in order to put the squeeze on before the trial of the Provocateur. Apparently that guy has been in his service for a long time, judging by similar incidents in the sky.
  9. Denis
    Denis 14 November 2014 09: 48
    +8
    The most unusual in the history of the Sakhalin incident is that out of almost 300 people flying on a Boeing, NOT ONE body was found!
    But the bodies were transmitted, again 3,14 ... children?
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 14 November 2014 21: 38
      +3
      Quote: Denis
      But the bodies were transmitted, again 3,14 ... children?

      In my opinion, everything looms beautifully on a downed Boeing over the Donbass, today they showed it as much as a zombie
      1. Denis
        Denis 14 November 2014 23: 31
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        In my opinion, everything looms beautifully on a downed Boeing over the Donbass, today they showed it as much as a zombie

        It’s difficult to somehow connect one with the other and the video isn’t new enough. The only thing I heard before was about the Su-25, and now the MiG-29.
        It seems only that both were shot down by a fighter. Otherwise,
        For two days, representatives of the Soviet Union did not give any comments. Then TASS issued a statement regarding the "unidentified aircraft", which "grossly violated the state border and invaded to a great depth into the airspace of the Soviet Union." It was alleged that fighter-interceptors fired only warning shots with tracer shells. The statement also hinted that the flight was carried out under the leadership of the Americans for espionage purposes.

        Passion in the international arena was heating up. Protests against the actions of the USSR took place around the world. “Civilized countries do not recognize deviation from the route as a crime for which the death penalty relies,” raged Gene Kirkpatrick, the US representative to the UN. The delegates listened to the tape recording of the radio conversations of the Soviet pilot. The film received from the Japan National Defense Department proved that the plane was shot down. USSR Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko said: “Soviet territory, the borders of the Soviet Union are sacred. Regardless of who resorts to provocations of this kind, he must know that he will bear the brunt of responsibility for such actions. ”
        Two days did not give comments, two days. However, then there was an official statement
        Policy with
        And how much time has passed since the day of the events over Donbas, and what clever did Kiev say?
        However, these idiots are not the first time
        The Tu-154 crash over the Black Sea is a heavy plane crash that occurred on October 4 on October 2001. The Tu-154M of Siberia Airlines crashed over the Black Sea
        But only being facts locked to the wall * but stupid obstinacy is known)
        At a conference in Kiev, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine apologized to the families of those killed in the crash of the Russian Tu-154 plane: “We know that we are involved in the tragedy, although its reasons have not yet been fully established”
        How long did the snot chew?
        Yes, and now it’s impossible to calm down:
        In 2008, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine initiated an examination. The expert commission included six specialists from the Kiev Scientific Research Institute of Forensic Expertise (KNIISE) and three employees from the Kozhedub Kharkiv Institute of Air Force. According to the conclusion of the examination, which was reported in January 2011 of the year, the aircraft was not hit by a Ukrainian missile
        What comparisons can there be?
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 15 November 2014 16: 26
          +1
          Quote: Denis
          It seems only that both were shot down by a fighter. Otherwise,

          This whole wave in the media was raised with only one purpose - to confuse the tracks. Because after being hit by a missile from the Buk complex, the plane immediately disintegrates, and here a lot of eyewitnesses tell that he had been planning for several seconds. The damage to the plane did not initially have such serious consequences. that the plane continued to plan, only finishing it off with an aircraft cannon led to its disintegration.
          Everyone in the West has long known everything!
          They have the bodies of passengers full of striking elements! That’s why the act of examination of the passengers wasn’t published at all - there is direct evidence !!
          1. Denis
            Denis 16 November 2014 00: 29
            0
            Quote: APASUS
            They have the bodies of passengers full of striking elements! That’s why the act of examination of the passengers wasn’t published at all - there is direct evidence !!

            It is not clear about the striking elements, they speak for Buk’s shot? Then how did they miss such a chance to raise the stench to heaven?
            Or are these elements of an aircraft rocket?
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 16 November 2014 17: 22
              0
              Quote: Denis
              It is not clear about the striking elements, they speak for Buk’s shot? Then how did they miss such a chance to raise the stench to heaven? Or are these elements of an aircraft missile?

              Read in more detail
              http://vybor.ua/article/Silovye_struktury/porajenie-boing-777-raketoy-vozduh-voz
              duh-pochti-dokazano.html
      2. doxtop
        doxtop 17 November 2014 14: 23
        0
        Again computer games! :(
        Guys! You can minus, however ... do not be like Ukrop zombies! Not all that glitters is gold. Well, draw up a similar picture and wishful thinking ... even I can!
        From myself: The presented photo is bullshit! And I won't even explain "why"! No.
  10. Silhouette
    Silhouette 14 November 2014 09: 51
    +3
    I would like to add about the notorious Boeing black boxes. We all knew that they were raised and sent to Moscow. There was no limit to our exultation. We were sure (and these are thousands of people participating in the search operation) that soon everything will become clear to everyone. But they were greatly surprised and disappointed when nothing appeared in print either a month or two or a year later. And we were unofficially told that the black boxes were empty, that is, they were simply turned off during the flight.
  11. Performance
    Performance 14 November 2014 10: 02
    +3
    Once upon a time in the Far East, the airfield and the air defense unit located near the town were raised by alarm, to intercept "targets" (!!!), it was very restless for a long time after that, the father, being at that time the squadron commander did not spread, after that, he regularly grumbled at the MiG-23 ... Yes, and a fact - decent bonuses were paid to the duty unit.
  12. Raider
    Raider 14 November 2014 10: 35
    +5
    The article is very interesting. Over time, many historical events "blur", and then this story is forgotten when it loses its relevance. An example would be the story of the Malaysian "Boyng", everything that can be used against Russia will be sucked out of it, and then the world will forget about it. Information wars, where peaceful losses are not counted, putting political and economic victories over the enemy at the head. The most interesting thing is that the United States, using such methods, never endangers its citizens. The main thing for them is the absence of threats to the United States.
    1. Storyteller
      Storyteller 14 November 2014 11: 29
      +5
      Quote: Raider
      The most interesting thing is that the United States, using such methods, never jeopardizes its citizens. The main thing for them is the absence of threats to the United States.


      Well yes! And what about the provocation in Cuba with the cruiser Maine, and Pearl Harbor, where they dumped their old vessels with a bunch of people in addition, to justify joining the war? They take care of their citizens when they need to invade a country in which, for some reason, the local police have detained an Ovsky rowdy tourist.
  13. Velizariy
    Velizariy 14 November 2014 11: 11
    +2
    And if there was a battle, they did the right thing to keep this fact secret! Ato to be a big war already then ... So with Kursk ... And to many others we don’t know ... The war is already going on ... and many do not even guess!
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 14 November 2014 12: 20
      +3
      No government now needs a war involving all the armed forces. It is expensive now and dangerous with the current weapons. At least with developed countries.
      So they embark on all sorts of provocations to accuse and denigrate the "inconvenient" country, to expose it to the whole world "for money"!
      And if it doesn’t work, then they begin to hide the ends and naturally remove all the witnesses!
      So it turns out.
    2. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 14 November 2014 13: 01
      +1
      The world must know true heroesotherwise they, heroes, begin to become impudent !!! hi
  14. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 November 2014 13: 22
    +8
    The coast of Sakhalin (southwest) was then dotted with scraps of foam from the seats and pieces of cellular skin from the Boeing. And my acquaintances divers said about the shmurdyak as from a garbage dump and about the absence of corpses. About aerial combat and a downed Boeing near Japan is far-fetched. Filled him over the village. True, he collapsed near Fr. Moneron.
    1. Technical engineer
      Technical engineer 15 November 2014 15: 50
      +1
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      The Sakhalin coast (south-west) was then littered with scraps of foam rubber from the seats and pieces of cellular trim from Boeing.

      Quote: Uncle Lee
      About air combat and downed Boeing under Japan are far-fetched.

      I then lived on Sakhalin, the graduating class was. Father went to sea. There was nothing about the foam rubber from the chairs and the cell trim. The shore was clean, I remember it myself, they ran with the boys hoping to throw out something interesting. And if that far away, I would have heard. Then everyone talked about it. So, to me as a resident of those places, the author’s version seems quite true
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 16 November 2014 15: 32
        +6
        Did your father tell you how the entire trawl fleet was driven out to sea, trawls were set up, the signal "I am going with a trawl" was raised and the impudent Americans were driven away from the point of the plane's fall?
    2. mervino2007
      mervino2007 16 November 2014 00: 56
      0
      Uncle Lee SU "About air combat and the downed Boeing near Japan far-fetched. Filled it over the village of Pravda."

      In the village of Pravda, Sakhalin Region the American RS-135 aircraft fired upon by our pilot Osipovich fell, resembling a Boeing.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 16 November 2014 15: 26
        +6
        And the divers were talking about Boeing. On mx "Mikhail Mirchik", where a group of divers worked, my friend worked as a radio operator, he talked about vol-climbing work.
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  15. vezdehodov
    vezdehodov 14 November 2014 13: 59
    +1
    Ours allowed the Americans to save face in front of their allies, which happened thanks to the propaganda and default of Moscow. But we got satisfaction from the work of our air defense and from the fact that we kicked in the star-striped opera. What else bargained ours remains a mystery.
  16. MAX2014
    MAX2014 14 November 2014 15: 49
    0
    I still take a neutral position.
  17. miv110
    miv110 14 November 2014 16: 09
    +1
    If you pay attention to the Boeing’s flight mode - a sharp change in flight altitude and high-speed mode, it becomes obvious that there were no ordinary passengers on board, only a specialized reconnaissance aircraft could behave like this.
  18. Fox
    Fox 14 November 2014 19: 09
    +1
    Abbot, etc. id. lesson end chen.ny, catch feed:
    http://www.1tv.ru/news/leontiev/271824
  19. Throw
    Throw 14 November 2014 19: 37
    +2
    A purely reconnaissance and provocative story. Air defense officers who served in the Far East in the 80's, said that the intruder (Boeing or the RS-135 reconnaissance, inexplicably) passed over two secret objects, presumably the radar. From the first he was overcome by fighters and the command to destroy was canceled, and then he went to the second. By mistake, they don’t fly like that, on its board 100% intelligence was recorded. After that, the final decision was made to bring him down.
    1. Locksmith
      Locksmith 15 November 2014 17: 50
      +1
      Quote: Lance
      Air defense officers who served in the Far East in the 80s told

      I then served too, we sat at the station, even got target designation, we couldn’t shoot the paravda — the division was only relocated and was not ready.
      The next day, rumors reached that a division was firing and shot down by ROCKET, then they did not hear about the plane.
      They already knew what the air defense was opening up and knew about the satellite, but apparently there is something more important than the secret deployment of a specific air defense system.
  20. TOR2
    TOR2 14 November 2014 22: 58
    +4
    in fact, this incident should have taught a lot. Firstly, conducting information warfare. A lost plane is pure disinfection. At how many points did he have to "check in"? If the memory does not change at least at 7. And if the point is missed, the corresponding signaling on the panel will light up with zeros. I'm not talking about ground services. Then it was not announced.
    In addition, after the first incident, our pilots should have had instructions on where to shoot so that the bird would become more accommodating. If Boeing had been planted, the scandal would not have been frail. For whom then would the chief Washington clown of the time cry.
  21. ROMANO
    ROMANO 15 November 2014 00: 11
    0
    Quote: Velizariy
    The war is already going on ... and many do not even guess!

    Uh-huh, the Super Empire was destroyed, its fragments are finishing it off, and we "neither sleep nor spirit"
  22. Technical engineer
    Technical engineer 15 November 2014 15: 50
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    The Sakhalin coast (south-west) was then littered with scraps of foam rubber from the seats and pieces of cellular trim from Boeing.

    Quote: Uncle Lee
    About air combat and downed Boeing under Japan are far-fetched.

    I then lived on Sakhalin, the graduating class was. Father went to sea. There was nothing about the foam rubber from the chairs and the cell trim. The shore was clean, I remember it myself, they ran with the boys hoping to throw out something interesting. And if that far away, I would have heard. Then everyone talked about it. So, to me as a resident of those places, the author’s version seems quite true
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 16 November 2014 15: 22
      +6
      My partner was at that time on a business trip to the village of Yasnomorskoye at the outpost. Was declared "Reinforced Combat" and the outfits turned over every pebble on the shore and dragged pieces of foam rubber and casing to the outpost. So, I myself saw a piece of casing from him, my partner.
  23. Cat man null
    Cat man null 16 November 2014 10: 43
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    Here, on the topic: Michelle Brune, "The Sakhalin incident". Quite informative for yourself ..

    http://www.airforce.ru/history/kal007/

    In the article, by the way, in the list of sources - this book is the first wink
  24. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 23 November 2014 05: 56
    0
    But just digging around in the internet? No secrets. The board was empty. Only the crew. What we got from the bottom of the sea is not a secret. With the exception of some details. No need to blow the blizzard.
  25. Timofey Astakhov
    Timofey Astakhov 17 September 2021 19: 52
    0
    "out of nearly 300 people who flew on the Boeing, NOT a single body has been found."
    Yes Yes Yes. They're not there. Koreans won't let you lie
    http://www.rescue007.org/passengers.htm
  26. Timofey Astakhov
    Timofey Astakhov 17 September 2021 19: 53
    -1
    Quote: ROMANO
    The super empire was destroyed

    Your beloved super-empire died, perching from strain 30 years ago .. But of course, you continue to her