On the "Severodvinsk" experienced rescue capsule

On the nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk" (project 885, "Ash") experienced a pop-up rescue chamber, transmits TASS with reference to the representative of the North fleet Vadim Sergu.

"According to the commander of the Northern Fleet, Admiral Vladimir Korolev, for the first time in the Russian period stories Russian Navy tested for its intended purpose pop-up rescue chamber of the newest nuclear submarine with a test team on board, "- said Serga.

To test the submarine plunged into the waters of the Bay of the Western Face on 40 meters, stabilized and simulated a fixed position on the ground. At this time, according to the representative of the Federation Council, "the test team of the capsule - five people - was working out evacuation on" Severodvinsk ". “In addition to the test team, the chamber itself also contained ballast, which in its mass equals the total weight of the entire crew,” said Serga.

After the ascent, the camera was towed to the rescue ship, which the testers then climbed on board.

“The test results once again confirmed the reliability and reasonableness of modern ships entering the fleet's armament, and careful preparation of the command of the submarine forces of the Northern Fleet and the crew of the Severodvinsk nuclear submarine to this exercise allowed us to safely carry out this most complicated event,” the fleet commander said.

Serga noted that all modern Russian nuclear submarines are now being equipped with rescue capsules.

Comments

[Nevsky_ZU]

Amusing video

[Eggor]

Another video:

[Anton Gavrilov]

An interesting shot though!

[annodomene]

The most important thing is the freeboard of the camera. Force! On the "loaves" is much less.

[Giant thought]

That's great, our submariners have a greater chance of survival.

[Strezhevsky]

The tragedy with Kursk taught us to think about the life of the crew! Well done.

[Steel loli]

We’ll save ten, and another 50 will drown. Milota.

It would be better if large floating cranes were built to lift boats from the depths.

[78bor1973]

The rescue camera is designed for the entire crew, and if the size of the camera bothers you, do not flatter yourself.

[Proud.]

Quote: Steel Loli

It would be better if large floating cranes were built to lift boats from the depths.

Yeah ... With a cruising speed of 100 knots. And better by teleporting ... But seriously, we are talking about saving the crew. In the shortest possible time. And not about raising the boat to save the crew. Is this how long it will take?

[avt]

Quote: Steel Loli

It would be better if large floating cranes were built to lift boats from the depths.

Well, you need to think sometimes before writing something!

Quote: Be proud.

Yeah ... With a cruising speed of 100 knots. And better by teleporting ... But seriously, we are talking about saving the crew. In the shortest possible time. And not about raising the boat to save the crew. Is this how long it will take?

Quote: pv1005

In Kursk there was the same VSK, just to sense if after the explosion the first three compartments where there was an entrance to the VSK like a cow tongue licked.

Firstly, there was a catastrophe on "Kuska" from which no camera can save, secondly, the accident with the loss of "Komsosmolts" with a part of the crew showed that the technique should be learned to use, and not to stretch the damage control assessment to satisfactory, in order to push the boat out into the ocean even with an unprepared crew. So this test on the lead boat, in the life of an experimental one, with a regular crew is a good thing. In general, a beautiful video report!

[TsUS-Air Force]

in Kursk, the crew was found in saved suits in the cutting room. that is, it was time to get dressed and make a decision

[avt]

Quote: NOC-VVS

in Kursk, the crew was found in saved suits in the cutting room. that is, it was time to get dressed and make a decision

It exploded so that everything that did not tear really distorted. As far as I heard it was because of this that they could not gain a foothold and open the hatch in the compartment in which the survivors of the explosion were. A catastrophe fleeting from the explosion of the BC - here no means of emergency rescue will help in principle. When they got to examine her - unfortunately it was all over; everything was over.

[RONIN-HS]

... The catastrophe fleeting from the explosion of BK -...

... just need to clarify - whose BC pulled? It looks like it was BC "Memphis".

[Homo]

Quote: Steel Loli

We’ll save ten, and another 50 will drown. Milota.

When will people like you learn how to read comments?
“In the chamber itself, in addition to the test team, there was also ballast, equal in mass to the total weight of the entire crew”

[pv1005]

In Kursk there was the same VSK, just to sense if after the explosion the first three compartments where there was an entrance to the VSK like a cow tongue licked.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: pv1005

In Kursk there was the same VSK, just to sense if after the explosion the first three compartments where there was an entrance to the VSK like a cow tongue licked.

Important detail ... hmm .. But this is not a reason not to conduct training and engage in improvement.

[pv1005]

I agree to all 100%

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

But this is not a reason not to conduct training

Be that as it may, in a serious accident, not everyone will be able to get to the rescue chamber. That's the problem. In such cases, as with Kursk, you yourself understand that it is not realistic to save everyone.

[Strezhevsky]

Quote: pv1005

In Kursk there was the same VSK, just to sense if after the explosion the first three compartments where there was an entrance to the VSK like a cow tongue licked.

I hope all this is taken into account and the conclusions are made, they do not sit still in general.

[SPACE59]

Quote: pv1005

In Kursk there was the same VSK, just to sense if after the explosion the first three compartments where there was an entrance to the VSK like a cow tongue licked.

So you need to make two capsules, one in the nose and the other in the feed.

[tchoni]

So you need to make two capsules, one in the nose and the other in the feed.

Better yet, in every compartment. It is a compartment because it is isolated from others. And ideally, operator’s workstations and battle stations (those that are possible) should be placed in these capsules. (as a catapult). I understand, it gives a little fiction, but still ...

[master 84]

They began to think about the carriage, life is priceless, as before, die yourself but save the car

[Viktor Kudinov]

Submarine emergencies are not limited to those that are widely known. And any opportunity to avoid casualties must, in a pinch, be sure to work.

[Deadmen]

And if the number of crews is more than the capsule can accommodate, will they play lots of saving seats by lot?)))

[Sly]

Quote: Deadmen

And if the number of crews is more than the capsule can accommodate, will they play lots of saving seats by lot?)))

this will at least save those who fit into it, as well as quickly determine the location of the emergency ship, which will quickly begin the rescue operation.

[Deadmen]

well, to start the rescue operation, you need to have the appropriate equipment for this, which we unfortunately practically do not have.

[avt]

Quote: Deadmen

well, to start the rescue operation, you need to have the appropriate equipment for this, which we unfortunately practically do not have.

Why don't we have such cunning, clever? That's not something specific, well, just like that - on your fingers, can you tell? At the same time, you won’t tell how many rescuers, sea tugs have gone off the stocks and will still come down, those same, not aircraft carriers, not cruisers, not destroyers "at the sight of which many on the site turn up their nose - not combat. Yes, the Navy has ALWAYS put into operation a new one the project of boats, rescuers were built for them. I was strained with the guided uninhabited, and even then they bought it after Kursk, another thing at the Pacific Fleet, during maneuvers with deep-sea inhabited people, they drowned ... and the upper command staff were called in. No ideal technique and be surprised - it WILL NOT be, you need, as they say, "to master perfectly" what is available, and the current action with "Severodvinsk" is just that.

[Deadmen]

just when Kursk sank we waited until help came from behind a hill.

[avt]

Quote: Deadmen

just when Kursk sank we waited until help came from behind a hill.

Yeah! ?? Or, maybe, take the time to look at the entire chronology of the events of this tragedy from the very beginning, from the moment of the rescue operation by the fleet forces intended to work with the emergency boat, and not from the arrival of the Haliburton platform, when the work on cutting the hull began.

[pv1005]

If the time has come to use the VSK, then the ship is all over, and by this time unfortunately there will be empty seats. Service on a submarine is not sugar, the rules of survival are very strict and, in the opinion of a simple average man, even cruel.

[Shadowcat]

umm ... Sir, let's pose the question differently - what the hell out of the submarine will there be extra people outside its staff?

[Hellraiser]

This is a very necessary and useful thing !!!

[Loner_53]

Only positive emotions after reading the article, in a word good

[Vyacheslav 64]

This is a very useful option, given the fact that a submariner is a "piece thing" for the state. And the morale in the crew increases the possibility of evacuation.

[bmv04636]

here's another photo

[aleks 62]

.... Here I look at its size ..... And they take doubts that the whole crew can fit there, and this is 80-90 people .... Who in the subject, clarify the situation ...

[Alexey RA]

BMPD wrote that due to the height of the chamber, the entire crew is packed in it - in several "floors".

the interior of the VSK was shown in the program "Polygon" "Journey to the Depth" (TV channel Russia 2) in which part I do not remember. In general, the "residential" volume of the VSK, judging by the photographs, is approximately 3,5-4 meters, that is, conventionally two floors for the crew sitting, well, and then like a herring in a barrel, shoulder to shoulder.

You will not want to live like that.

Not for nothing:

In the chamber itself, in addition to the test team, there was also ballast, in mass equal to the total weight of the crew on board.

[Anton Gavrilov]

The crew of Severodvinsk 63-64 people!

Closely, tightly pressed against each other, and having a little patience will fit and not so much.

[KBR109]

Well done for not being stingy. Such a test is expensive and expensive. A similar exercise should have been conducted immediately after the death (destruction) of the KURSK submarine. But better late than never. WELL !

[Magic archer]

It’s better to improve personal protective equipment! If you’re still wearing them, you can already give up. In simple conditions it’s hard to put on, and under stress ...

[Andrey NM]

To do this, and conduct daily training to fight for survivability. The most difficult thing for me was to screw the fitting of the breathing bag to the hydrocombenison mask. There is a three-fingered little hand, and the apparatus is heavy.

[Magic archer]

I saw a video with such training, and then, for the sake of curiosity, I asked a friend of the submariner about this. He told me that we still have 70 protective equipment! In the West, these have not been used for a long time. Everything is much simpler and more convenient there. Capsule capsule but sometimes you still need to get to it, but in conditions of smoke, for example, this is problematic .... I hope the fleet will think it over sooner or later

[ODERVIT]

Great, lessons do not pass without a trace. There is hope that gagging is a thing of the past.
The only thing that I wanted to know, from the explanations of the members of the forum, who own the topic, without conjectures and fantasies - "This capsule can fit the entire crew or is it not alone on the ship"? I will be grateful.

[Steel loli]

The whole crew can fit in this capsule or it is not alone on the ship

There is one capsule, the maximum capacity is 10 "non-heroes" in suits, the crew of the boat is 93 submariners.

[pv1005]

Quote: Steel Loli

The whole crew can fit in this capsule or it is not alone on the ship

There is one capsule, the maximum capacity is 10 "non-heroes" in suits, the crew of the boat is 93 submariners.

You are a nice person, have you seen this with your own eyes, or did you dream about it ???

[Steel loli]

Just read the articles on the development of this capsule.

[pv1005]

Quote: Steel Loli

Just read the articles on the development of this capsule.

On the fences, too, a lot of things are written. Just go at least once to the submarine.

[pv1005]

The whole crew is full. But very crowded.

[Steel loli]

He laughed heartily. At least take a look at the photo first.
You could cram the infantry company into the infantry fighting vehicle with the same makar.

[pv1005]

Quote: Steel Loli

He laughed heartily. At least take a look at the photo first.
You could cram the infantry company into the infantry fighting vehicle with the same makar.

Nobody talks about the company in the BMP. And for VSK that I saw about that and I speak. And poking at strangers here is generally not accepted.

[RONIN-HS]

Steel Loli ... At least take a look at the photo first ...

VSK is calculated by designers for all performance characteristics, and for the capacity of the entire crew (from the book YES. Romanova - "The tragedy of the submarine" Komsomolets ").
So don't drive the blizzard said for the whole crew means ergonomics calculated.
Another question is that the Komsomolets warlords stupidly did not know RBITS (Guides for the combat use of technical means). Additionally, they threw a cable into the lower compartment of the VSK, which did not allow to shut up the hatch in a regular way. The designers believe that VSK Komsomolets vomited from a regular place, after hitting the submarine against the ground (at depth 1553 m !!!) and she surfaced. 5 people were unconscious due to depressurization during ascent, three did not turn on in the IDA, and one of the first ones who regained consciousness opened the upper hatch without relieving the pressure. One was thrown alive (midshipman Slyusarenko).
VSK was sunk by a jet of air, scooped up water and sank. Analysis of the flooding of VSC in the book pp. 124-135.

And further. The book describes in detail the actions of the crew in returning the PSN life rafts. This is a circus, if it weren’t so tragic. In the merchant fleet, general ship alarms are carried out constantly and the team often overrides the standards. It is ordinary and habitual. It was at least once.

[Ascetic]

Here is a video of these tests



I wonder how it differs from the VSK PLA pr. 705? They tested it in the shaggy 1965.

Komsomolets was also equipped with a similar camera and Kursk. The concept of rescuing the entire team only works if the crew is extremely small and is in the same compartment while visiting the rest for a routine inspection. That is, the management of all life cycles on the submarine should be as automated as possible. These boats have a future, which means that the VSC into which the crew can get as quickly as possible from neighboring compartments will be effective.

[pv1005]

Fundamentally nothing.

[Shadowcat]

The main thing is not to make noise while driving. And so purely joyful, it remains to work out the methodology for saving and evacuating the crew that emerged.

[Andrey NM]

As far as I remember, the Komsomolets capsule was also tested in Litsa, so it was back in 1988, if memory serves. The problem is that if we recall the collisions and accidents of our nuclear submarines, then the strikes were either in the wheelhouse, or in the area of ​​the 2nd compartment, just in the area where the VSK was located.

[Igor 069]

Tests were conducted from a boat standing on an even keel? But how is it in reality? It would be interesting to read the analysis of rescue l / s in real emergencies.

[Triarius North]

I hope that in real conditions it will not be useful.

[Babai34rus]

Ah yes well done !!!!!!!!

[Viktor Kudinov]

Quote: Magic Archer

It’s better to improve personal protective equipment! If you’re still wearing them, you can already give up. In simple conditions it’s hard to put on, and under stress ...

This is also a must! And so that both the wounded and the stunned, and in general no one "on the machine" could "pack in protection" .

[archi.sailor]

Damn, I missed such an event while sitting at home !!!!! We need to ask witnesses

[Lyton]

Well, God forbid, that it would work under any conditions and deformations, even when the boat is lying on its side, God forbid, of course.

[chelovektapok]

"Kursk" would be like that! Not all ... at least someone ...

[3vs]

Judging by wikipedia:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CF%EE%E4%E2%EE%E4%ED%FB%E5_%EB%EE%E4%EA%E8_%EF%F0

%EE%E5%EA%F2%E0_885_%AB%DF%F1%E5%ED%FC%BB
Crew 64 man.
There is one rescue chamber on the boat; it can fit the whole crew. The number of crews, according to data from various sources, ranges from 85 to 93 people.
Something I doubt that the entire crew of even 64 people fit in such a small box.
If the whole add-on would pop up, wherever it went.
Can someone correctly explain this incident?

[Nayhas]

I have never met a single case when such a capsule saved at least one person. The USSR in terms of accident rate and the number of dead submarines was ahead of the rest, but rescue capsules did not save anyone. Maybe designers are underdeveloping something?

[Lyton]

I saved it on Komsomolets, only the midshipman doesn’t seem to remember exactly with fright, not evening the pressure, rushed to open it.

[cergey51046]

This is correct, otherwise it will jam in Kursk.

[pv1005]

Do not confuse Kursk and Komsomolets.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: KOSMOS59

Quote: pv1005

In Kursk there was the same VSK, just to sense if after the explosion the first three compartments where there was an entrance to the VSK like a cow tongue licked.

So you need to make two capsules, one in the nose and the other in the feed.

So it seems so. Maybe just not all boats.

[Wolka]

it is gratifying, but still doubtful, that about 80-90 people will fit in this jar, and if there are another 300s then ... so it makes sense to think about placing another similar capsule in the rear of the submarine, or to develop additional alternative ways to save crew, such as through torpedo tubes or missile silos.