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Unprecedented military exercises in Armenia

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Unprecedented military exercises in Armenia


The 2014 Unity exercises held in Armenia have become unprecedented in modern stories of this republic and Nagorno-Karabakh (since 1991 year). In fact, in the shortest possible time 70-80% of the personnel of the Armed Forces of Armenia and the NKR Defense Army were sent to the test sites in full combat readiness (47 thousands of soldiers participate in the exercises, 2-60 thousands of military personnel participate in the exercises).

The amount of military equipment used in the exercises is also surprising. A total of RA Armed Forces and the NKR Defense Army were sent to training battle over 2000 artillery shells (probably recorded and light mortars), 850 armored vehicles, 450 units of various air defense systems (MANPADS, anti-aircraft artillery, air defense missile system), more than 1500 antitank weapons, to 5000 units special and automotive vehicles. So what can you learn and what conclusions to make by analyzing information about the passing exercises?

1) Highest alertness.

Very few countries can afford to take and send 80% personnel and almost all the equipment to the exercises. In this case, the secret lies in the fact that the Armed Forces of Armenia and the NKR Joint Stock Company are always and in full force on alert, without requiring time and additional funds for deployment. In fact, the army is constantly in the same condition as it should be during a large-scale war. An interesting comparison - the largest exercises in the history of the Russian Federation (from 1991 of the year) were held in 2013, 160 thousands of servicemen took part in them - about 20% of the personnel of the Russian Armed Forces. In Azerbaijan, exercises with such a high percentage of involvement of personnel were not conducted either.

2) The discrepancy between the officially declared quantities of military equipment and real numbers.

It has long been known that Armenia and NKR are actively buying military equipment in the Russian Federation at Russian domestic prices, but this is almost not reflected in official reports. And if the number of equipment put up for teaching by Armenia corresponds to the general concepts, then the equipment of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic is much higher than what was previously considered. In fact, it is confirmed that all the “surplus” equipment goes straight to Nagorno-Karabakh.

Based on the data provided by the press service of the NKR Joint-Stock Company, it is possible to draw conclusions about the minimum amount of equipment available in the unrecognized republic:

1550 units of artillery equipment - here probably includes ACS Acacia, Carnation, towed guns D-20, D-30, Hyacinth-B, MLRS Grad, various mortars, anti-tank guns "Rapier".

600 units of armored vehicles - mainly represented tanks T-72B and BMP-1 and 2. Armored personnel carriers in the NKR AO and the Armed Forces of Armenia are rarely used, since tracked infantry fighting vehicles have better cross-country ability, as well as armor.

300 units of air defense systems - represented by S-300PS air defense missile systems (previously “shone” in the photo on the Internet) “Igla” MANPADS, Strela-10 air defense missile system, Cube air defense missile system, Shilka anti-aircraft guns, Shilka and ZN-125 anti-aircraft systems.

1300 units of anti-tank weapons - various anti-tank missile systems (Fagot, Konkurs, Sturm-S, Milan, presumably Cornet) and hand-held anti-tank rocket launchers.

3) The next dispelling of the myth that only Azerbaijan is actively arming.

Of course, Baku spends much more money than Yerevan and Stepanakert and buys, in general, more modern weapons. However, this does not mean that Armenians "sit back" and do nothing - over the years, a huge saturation of the troops in Karabakh with military equipment was created. Some interesting figures on this topic: about 75 military personnel of the JSC NKR approximately one tank. For the Russian Federation, this figure is approximately 266, for the United States approximately 260, for Azerbaijan 155. It is also interesting that the armed forces of Armenia and the NKR joint-stock company have a noticeable advantage over Azerbaijan in operational-tactical missile complexes. Yerevan and Stepanakert have at their disposal 8 minimum of the Tochka-U PTRK launchers (they all participate in the exercises) and 8 PU of the R-17 “Scud-B” ballistic missiles (the range in 300km allows reaching almost any point in Azerbaijan), and Baku has 4 PU Point-U and a small number of Israeli MLRS LYNX, with the ability to use the OTRK Extra.
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  1. 416D
    416D 15 November 2014 06: 44
    0
    Here is one of the MI-24 helicopters that flew too close to the Azerbaijani posts on the front line during these "Unprecedented Military Exercises".

    And yet, all this happened in Agdam, a territory that does not belong to either Armenia or Nagorno-Karabakh.

    1. Isum
      Isum 15 November 2014 10: 10
      +3
      Well flew up, and that, why bring him down ?????
      1. 416D
        416D 15 November 2014 10: 21
        +5
        Quote: IZUM
        Well flew up, and that, why bring him down ?????


        The state of war. Here is an example for you: imagine that a Ukrainian MI-24 flies over a militia post. Kill him or not?
        1. Isum
          Isum 15 November 2014 10: 43
          +2
          if the teachings are officially declared and there is an order not to open fire first, then no they will not bring down.
          1. alone
            alone 15 November 2014 12: 50
            -5
            Quote: IZUM
            if the teachings are officially declared and there is an order not to open fire first, then no they will not bring down.

            The helicopter fell a few meters from the Azerbaijani positions. We have corpses. 100% flight recorders, too. And why do Armenian Air Force helicopters conduct exercises in Nagorno-Karabakh? Is there little space in Armenia to fly?
      2. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 15 November 2014 11: 50
        -4
        Quote: IZUM
        Well flew up, and that, why bring him down

        If a pair of turntables makes a combat approach to your positions - will you have fun waving them with handkerchiefs? is the question stupid? ... And, in general, did our land do the right thing in Karabakh - it got flown!
      3. Yujanin
        Yujanin 15 November 2014 19: 06
        -4
        Well flew up, and that, why bring him down ?????

        In fact, why was it necessary to shoot down? This is not a Korean Boeing attack aircraft flying over the Kuriles, but a harmless MI24.
  2. Sirocco
    Sirocco 15 November 2014 06: 46
    +16
    The Armenians and Azerbaijanis would stop measuring pipiska, there is little pancake for everyone, at the end of life everyone is provided 2 to 1 and 2 in depth. In the light of recent revolutions, they would have united and reconciled over a glass of tea. There is a good Ukrainian proverb, Hurt and dad are easier to beat. Everything was divided into small principalities, and snot was released from the nostrils. Divide and conquer, no one has yet canceled. Ukraine and Korea as an example, which from one state, with the hands of the United States, turned into two opposite camps with one people.
    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 15 November 2014 11: 53
      +1
      Quote: Sirocco
      The Armenians with Azerbaijanis would stop measuring pipes,

      Good day Vladimir. And who is against it? Do not compete with the Japanese - give the Kuril Islands, with the Finns - give Karelia (to St. Petersburg) - the Ukrainians - the Crimea - they demand it back, and even the Chinese open their mouths on the floor of Siberia - also give them - anyway, in the final 2x1 metric to everyone. WELL HOW DO YOU ASK THE QUESTION ???
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 15 November 2014 13: 21
        +4
        San Sanych and you can’t get sick.
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        give the Kuril Islands
        How do you like this situation.
        Before the arrival of Russian and Japanese, the islands were inhabited by Ainu. In their language, “kuru” meant “a man who came out of nowhere”, whence came their second name “smokers”, and then the name of the archipelago.
        So to whom do they belong ??? These disputed islands more than once passed from hand to hand, according to the results of the 2nd World War, they passed to Russia (USSR).
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        with Finns - give Karelia

        Or maybe vice versa with Karello-Finami, before the revolution, the Finns were part of the Russian Empire.
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        Ukrainians - Crimea

        You heard about CrimeaWhat is a city of Russian glory? and how many centuries was that? And also, over the course of more than one century, passed from hand to hand. It seems that after the liberation of Constantinople, the Genoese received both the Crimea, then the Turks and Tatars, all claim. But in fact we control it. So to whom to give it to Sanych?
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        Yes, even the Chinese there

        At the expense of China, can the studio official claims of China?
        You forgot to mention Alaska. With such an uvaz approach, you can reduce the whole Bible to Chlyen. (There is such an anecdote) How do you like this alignment ??? So let the Armenians slaughter each other with the Azerbaijanis, the Ukrainians with the Ukrainians, the Koreans with the Koreans. etc. etc. In general, I propose to remove the axis of evil in the face of the United States, then all these separation measures will stop, not immediately, but people will agree. How do you like this?
      2. dzau
        dzau 16 November 2014 13: 59
        0
        Quote: kotdavin4i
        Do not compete with the Japanese - give the Kuril Islands, with the Finns - give Karelia (to St. Petersburg) - the Ukrainians - the Crimea - they demand it back, and even the Chinese open their mouths on the floor of Siberia - also give them - anyway, in the final 2x1 metric to everyone. WELL HOW DO YOU ASK THE QUESTION ???

        And why should we give de facto our own? Maybe Moscow to the Martians?

        NKAO has not been de facto under the control of Baku for a long time and is not populated by Azerbaijanis.

        As for the adjacent regions occupied by Armenia, I remember that no one immediately "froze" the discussion of the conditions for their return: they just had to choose the right "arbiter".

        The Azerbaijanis chose their own, in the person of the so-called. podpindosnogo "world community", making a stand on the legs and working out in the future exercises with Turkey, various Nabuccs, the elimination of Gabala, etc.

        Not taking into account the realities of who actually dances in the region, the participants in the ball and could help to make a difference.

        Well, they chose - they chose. Why whine about "integrity" now, who is their doctor?

        Crimea, by the way, also didn’t come out of the bay-floundering in the early morning. All such events have prerequisites and background.

        The prerequisites for discussing the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation in terms of the Kurils or Siberia are currently zero. Discussing their affiliation is as silly as discussing the "return of Alaska and California." Those. your whole post is primitive demagoguery.
    2. alone
      alone 15 November 2014 12: 47
      -1
      Quote: Sirocco
      The Armenians and Azerbaijanis would stop measuring pipiska, there is little pancake for everyone, at the end of life everyone is provided 2 to 1 and 2 in depth. In the light of recent revolutions, they would have united and reconciled over a glass of tea. There is a good Ukrainian proverb, Hurt and dad are easier to beat. Everything was divided into small principalities, and snot was released from the nostrils. Divide and conquer, no one has yet canceled. Ukraine and Korea as an example, which from one state, with the hands of the United States, turned into two opposite camps with one people.


      Everyone can advise anyone to do what he considers necessary. But when it comes to his state and people, a person who advised to give one or another piece of territory for 5 minutes becomes an adamant and ardent guardian of the state interests of his country. And about 2x1, this is a very controversial issue Not every dead person gets this 2x1, believe the person who saw and experienced a lot of things in this life.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 15 November 2014 13: 36
        +1
        Quote: lonely
        .And about 2x1, this is a very controversial issue.

        Who cares how many meters there are, or cubes of land ???? Death is a great leveler, not Colt. There, everyone is equal, both rich and poor, the process of rotting is the same, flies and worms eat all the same.
        The Karabakh Khanate is a feudal state in Transcaucasia (ser. XVIII - early XIX centuries), originally under the rule of Persia, and since 1805 - as part of the Russian Empire. It was liquidated in 1822 and transformed into the Russian province. in Soviet times - as part of the Azerbaijan SSR.
        So to whom did he belong, and does he belong? To whom to return it? The whole problem is that Azerbaijan could not or did not want to negotiate with the Armenians, who were the majority there. (As in Ukraine, with the Donbass) So I changed my mind, you beat there at least until the second coming, but not here on the couch and on the net, but there in the trenches. As they say, does not reach through the head, let it reach through the hands (or FOR the bottom). What I wish you. Good luck to you. hi
  3. Bongo
    Bongo 15 November 2014 08: 34
    +7
    The Armenian Armed Forces and NKR JSC have a noticeable advantage over Azerbaijan in operational-tactical missile systems. Yerevan and Stepanakert have at their disposal a minimum of 8 launchers of the OTRK Tochka-U (they all participate in the exercises) and 8 PU ballistic missiles R-17 “Skad-B” (range in 300km allows reaching almost any point in Azerbaijan)

    The use of missiles of the P-17 complex with a QUO of about 500 meters with a conventional warhead can only be effective in large cities. P-17 entered service in the middle of the 60's is now hopelessly outdated.
    1. alone
      alone 15 November 2014 11: 34
      +4
      But how does Nersisyan know that Skud is an outdated technology. That Point -U, despite being inferior to Skud in range, is much more accurate and effective than him. -150 meters. The skad is incapable of such a thing.
      By the way about the helicopter. It was shot down when flying directly over the positions of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces. The Armenian general himself confirmed this. The corpses are in the hands of the Azerbaijani military. The question is, Why did you have to get so close to our positions? Who gave the order to the pilot to do this?
      People in the military will confirm. A pair of helicopters will never arbitrarily do such a thing. If even one of the pilots breaks the order, the pilot of the second will not allow this. This gives two options: Or the pilots ignored their command, which means that everyone in the army messes up Or pilots of combat helicopters carried out someone’s criminal order, which led to what led.
    2. Yujanin
      Yujanin 15 November 2014 18: 46
      -1
      R-17 entered service in the mid-60s is now hopelessly outdated.

      I remember Saddam really counted on these missiles ...
  4. Horst78
    Horst78 15 November 2014 14: 24
    +2
    5 military personnel of NKR JSC accounted for approximately one tank. For the Russian Federation, this figure is approximately 266, for the United States approximately 260
    And how many units of sea and river vessels are there per unit of personnel?
  5. Horst78
    Horst78 15 November 2014 14: 29
    -3
    Aaaaa laughing class. Finally, srach began regarding the Armenians and Azerbaijanis. And then only Kh.O.Kh.L.y and M.O.S.K.A.L.I. wassat good
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 15 November 2014 20: 50
      -3
      Those who threw minus to me. ARGUMENT.
      1. alone
        alone 15 November 2014 23: 08
        +1
        I didn’t minus you, but where did you see srach?
  6. IgorM
    IgorM 15 November 2014 17: 49
    +2
    We protect the borders of Armenia, we are also the guarantor of their independence, therefore their army can be rolled out in any quantity, anywhere and at any kind of exercises, including the pro-NATO ones, where they constantly stick out.

    The Armenians fluffed their tail in vain and showed everything they have or most of it. Firstly, this is politically incorrect, before that, against the background of large contracts with us, Israel, Ukraine and Turkey there was talk about the militarism of Azerbaijan, in fact, as we see, the huge sums and the military budget that Baku boasts are caused only by the fact that they buy weapons from us and over the hill at world prices, while the Armenians receive most of the weapons from us at bargain prices, or even for nothing, with the exception of only a few MLRS purchased by Armenia in China. Secondly, the show of Scuds will only accelerate the acquisition by Azerbaijan of the latest generation of Pakistani OTRKs with higher characteristics. In addition, against the background of Azerbaijan's strengthening of its anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense forces, the chances of the Points and Scuds to inflict damage look more than doubtful. Thirdly, they mentioned the number of tanks by the number of servicemen, but forgot about the quality, in service with Azerbaijan T-72 modernized by Israel, plus our T-90. Despite the fact that they have a qualitative superiority at times T-72 of the Armenian Armed Forces, an unpleasant situation is created, since Armenia has rolled out to the public the fact that it does not comply with the limits on these systems and is significantly exceeded, and earlier it played on accusations of a similar address of Azerbaijan. Fourth, most importantly, with such large-scale exercises, Armenia, trying to exert pressure, perhaps not without a signal from the Kremlin, actually untied Azerbaijan's hands. And I think the episode with the helicopter was not accidental, the parties made it clear to each other what would happen in the development of tension and escalation of the conflict. Fifthly, the mobilization and economic potential of Azerbaijan is higher, it can afford a war, our possibilities in "enforcing peace" in this case are limited, and the Armenians themselves are not better fighters than the Azerbaijanis.
  7. dzau
    dzau 15 November 2014 19: 38
    0
    That’s all that Baku has achieved by shooting down a helicopter for no reason.
  8. xent
    xent 15 November 2014 23: 05
    0
    I absolutely agree with all those who commented despite their nationality ... yes, you’re all right, the Armenians are old, of poor quality, maybe there’s nothing suitable equipment at all ... however, a person wins in wars, which you all forgot about .. No need to count the number of Armenian and Azerbaijani tanks or artillery, aircraft and air defense ... only the war will show who is who.
  9. Lechik2000
    Lechik2000 16 November 2014 01: 50
    0
    I don’t like Azeris from the Soviet Army (and who loved them).
    There were 15 spirits for 20 Russians, 20 guys from Kabarda and the rest of Uzbekistan 70 bodies.
    Azerbaijanis got everyone, even Kabarda ...
    We conspired with the guys from Kabardians and arranged a "dark" for the Azerbaijanis - we attacked at night
    and they pounded the azeri with stools, arches from army beds, I personally figured
    with two hands army belts ...
    Then the Azerbaijanis walked like well-trained, or what?
    Z.Y. Friends (pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation) I have Armenians if ...
    1. Yujanin
      Yujanin 16 November 2014 15: 58
      -1
      I don't like Azeris from the Soviet Army (and who loved them). There were 15 spirits for 20 Russians, 20 guys from Kabarda and the rest of the Uzbeks 70 bodies. the Azerbaijanis got everyone, even Kabarda ... We conspired with the guys with the Kabardians and arranged a "dark" for the Azerbaijanis - we attacked at night

      Given your great life experience and broad horizons, it is not impossible not to agree with your reasonably convincing and justified arguments in characterizing the whole people.
      1. dzau
        dzau 16 November 2014 20: 48
        +1
        Quote: Yujanin
        Given your great life experience and broad horizons, it is not impossible not to agree with your reasonably convincing and justified arguments in characterizing the whole people.

        "No way" together and through "and", "impossible" together, "disagree" through a soft sign.

        Given the cultural and moral level of today's youth among your compatriots moving to the Russian Federation, as well as the most widespread occupation and typical behavior, the unseemly characterization given above is partially justified.

        Don't you think? Excuse me, we don’t seem to hear about robberies and rape by Russians in broad daylight of minor Azerbaijanis right in the Baku markets. There are no crowds of Russian men and women rushing at Azerbaijani police officers while trying to detain someone (with broken heads of employees as a result).

        So do a better log before you raise your voice about someone’s experience and horizons.

        We are all adults and tolerant. But facts are facts.
        1. Yujanin
          Yujanin 16 November 2014 21: 32
          0
          Don't you think? Excuse me, we don’t seem to hear about robberies and rape by Russians in broad daylight of minor Azerbaijanis right in the Baku markets.

          There you have enough more without our (Caucasians) crime. Crime with the participation of an Azerbaijani can take place, except that in a year 1-2 times for the whole of Russia (I often watch Russian media). And then you don’t like it and don’t want to see the Azerbaijanis at home - chase them home and don’t threaten, we’ve been scared ..... 10 years since you can’t send them home ...... And if it’s real, then the Azerbaijanis who sell at you in the markets, because their labor, their bribes are very much in demand by your cops and officials. So all claims to your bureaucrats and cops. And at the expense of grams. mistakes - thanks for fixing - I will know! . We have forums in Baku, not everyone will devote time to such a thing .PS. And is it true that a third of Russians seriously believe that the Sun is a satellite of the Earth?
          1. dzau
            dzau 16 November 2014 22: 23
            0
            Quote: Yujanin
            Crime with the participation of an Azerbaijani can take place, except that in a year 1-2 times for the whole of Russia

            With a million of them in only one MSK?

            Quote: Yujanin
            Azerbaijanis who trade in your markets because their labor and their bribes are very much in demand by your cops and officials. So all claims to your bureaucrats and cops

            Send the script to Hollywood. How Puting personally drives the chained ostarbeiters from occupied democratic Baku. Handcuffs to the shelves of Moscow markets. And then he tortures in the basements of the FSB those who poorly planted his paw.

            Quote: Yujanin
            .And is it true that a third of Russians seriously believe that the Sun is a satellite of the Earth?

            Truth. Actually, the contingent under discussion.
    2. P-15
      P-15 17 November 2014 10: 32
      +1
      Amusing bike
      And what was weak without the Kabardians, once at a time?)
      I had a couple of scribblers in my unit, like, everyone tried the same dark 2 against one. Well, they did it once, though one then he treated his housekeepers for a long time in the hospital in Severomorsk, and from there he was demobilized. The truth turned out to be a man, he didn’t initiate a political appointment. Yes, and how you’ll assume that one spirit managed to send his grandfather to the hospital.
      These are the things that the pilot of 2000 has. I never know who you will run into.
  10. IgorM
    IgorM 16 November 2014 23: 52
    +1
    "... Azerbaijanis who trade in your markets because their labor and their bribes are in great demand by your cops and officials. So all claims to your bureaucrats and cops."
    This is a fact, ethnic groups exist and feel at ease thanks to the corrupt cops and authorities, but this is not only our misfortune, I think it’s also not a secret for you that Karabakh was actually sold by your bureaucrats, and still you can’t return it in any way because they did not steal and the war threatens their business and tranquility.
    It’s clear that you got angry like this:
    "Lechik2000 From the Soviet Army I do not like Azeris (and who loved them).
    .... to Azerbaijanis - attacked at night
    and they pounded the azeri with stools, arches from army beds, I personally figured
    with two hands army belts ...
    Then the Azerbaijanis walked like well-trained, or what?
    Z.Y. Friends (pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation) I have Armenians if ...
    "
    but just don’t pay attention to such people, we have no less freaks than you, it’s not in vain that the family has a freak, but because of one freak write to us about our some problems, living in a country where theft of cops and officials has long been actually legalized, agree pretty funny.