Integration barometer

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Integration barometerThe third wave of public opinion research, the EDB Integration Barometer, conducted by the Integration Research Center of the Eurasian Development Bank (EDB) and the Eurasian Monitor agency, revealed a number of new trends in the perception of Eurasian integration by the population of the former USSR.

The Integration Barometer survey series was conducted in April-May of 2014 in the territory of 10 of the Commonwealth countries (excluding Turkmenistan) and Georgia, which left the CIS after the five-day war of 2008. In each country, not less than 1 of thousands of people were interviewed. and the total number of survey participants exceeded 13 thousand. Attitude of residents of the former Soviet republics to integration processes was studied in political, economic and cultural aspects, which allowed covering all the main points of perception of Eurasian integration. As an analysis tool, the notion of attraction was used, which included kinship and business ties, the presence of interest and sympathy for a particular country, as well as readiness to interact with it at different levels.

The key research question is the attitude of the population of the CIS countries to the main integration projects of the post-Soviet space - the Customs Union (CU) and the Common Economic Space (CES), on the basis of which the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU) will be created from 1 in January 2015. The positions of the population of Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus, which are already members of these associations, and the rest of the CIS states in this regard are noticeably different. In the countries of the integration, the troika of the CU and the EP approve of the population from 2 / 3 to 3 / 4, which indicates their wide public support. The highest approval level for Eurasian integration was recorded in Kazakhstan (84%), followed by Russia (79%) and Belarus (68%). Moreover, in Kazakhstan, the number of endorsing vehicles increased by 11% compared to last year, in Russia - by 12%, and in Belarus - only by 3%. The level of public support for Eurasian integration in Belarus - the smallest economy of the union, strongly dependent on Russia, remains at the lowest level since 2012.

Among those countries that are not members of the CU, the highest level of its public support was recorded in Tajikistan (72%) and Uzbekistan (68%), which are the leaders of Central Asia in terms of the number of labor migrants working in Russia. Meanwhile, both countries distance themselves from participation in Eurasian integration.
Particularly striking differences between the policies of the ruling elites, who consistently refuse to participate in any integration projects, and the position of the population, whose 2 / 3 are focused on the CU, look like in Uzbekistan. The level of support for Eurasian integration in Armenia (64%), which from 1 in January 2015 will become a member of the CU, is lower than in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, but significantly higher than in the other candidate country for joining the union - Kyrgyzstan (50%) .

The situation in Kyrgyzstan looks increasingly alarming. Despite the fact that the leadership of the republic announced its desire to join the Customs Union as far back as 2011, Bishkek is noticeably behind Yerevan on the path to Eurasian integration. Moreover, the level of support for the CU by residents of the country compared to 2013 was reduced from 67 to 50%. The economy of Kyrgyzstan after the collapse of the USSR was based on the re-export of Chinese goods, as well as the import of fabrics and accessories from China to the local clothing industry. These industries were focused on the markets of Russia and Kazakhstan, access to which after the formation of the Customs Union was difficult. This situation did not add to the popularity of the idea of ​​Eurasian integration. The Kyrgyz authorities themselves are not paying enough attention to working with public opinion. After the CU summit held in Astana in May of 29, which was signed by the road map for Kyrgyzstan’s accession to the union, a mass of publications appeared in the republic promoting the Eurasian integration project. However, then their number decreased again, which did not slow down affecting the mood of the population. As the authors of the report note, “in Kyrgyzstan there is a decline in interest in the CIS region in almost all indicators of the population’s integration orientations, as well as an increase in the indicators of autonomy.”

If in the member countries of the Customs Union 77% of the population expressed an average attitude towards him, in Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, who are candidates for joining the CU, they treat him with sympathy - 63%, and in Georgia, Moldova , Azerbaijan and Ukraine, oriented to the West - only 39%.
In general, the division of the republics of the CIS into supporters and opponents of Eurasian integration was formed at the turn of the 1990 and 2000, when the intergovernmental associations of GUUAM, on the one hand, and the CSTO and EurAsEC, on the other, were formed. Membership in these associations was changed only by Uzbekistan, which from 1999 to 2005 was a member of GUUAM, after which it left and joined the CSTO, again leaving its ranks in 2012. However, the membership of the CIS countries among the pro or anti-Russian is determined not so much attitude to Russia of the population, how much the position of the West-oriented political and economic elites. Controlling the media, they formed public opinion in the right direction for themselves. So, the level of vehicle support in Ukraine and Moldova, until recently, was higher than 50%, and only after the start of an active PR campaign for European integration, it began to decline.

It is noteworthy that joining the CU still supports more than half of the population of Georgia (53%), which, after the “five-day” war of 2008 and the final loss of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, seems to have no particular sympathy for Russia. However, over the past year, the level of approval of Eurasian integration in Georgia has decreased by 6%. About half of the Moldovan population, whose number (49%) is more than twice the share of opponents of Eurasian integration (23%), is positive towards the Customs Union. In Azerbaijan, the main focus of which is Turkey, the already lowest level of support in the CIS in the CIS has decreased from 37 to 22%, and the negative attitude towards it, on the contrary, increased from 53 to 64%.

In terms of its negative attitude towards Eurasian integration, Azerbaijan is two and a half times ahead of Georgia, although it did not have military conflicts with the Russian Federation. One of the main reasons for this, apparently, was the beginning of the process of joining Armenia, which, because of the Karabakh conflict, regards Baku as the main enemy.
The negative image of Armenia is projected on its main military and political ally, Russia.

The sharpest decline in pro-Russian and Eurasian sentiment was in Ukraine, which at the time of the survey (April-May) was in a state of acute confrontation with Russia because of the loss of the Crimea. The support of the idea of ​​joining the CU by residents of the republic for the year decreased from 50 to 31%, and its negative perception increased from 28 to 50%. Such strong shifts in public attitudes are explained by a deep military-political crisis and a massive information campaign aimed at discrediting Eurasian integration. Its main goal is mental-psychological recoding of Ukrainians, whose main national idea is to make Russophobia. The information war against Russia in the Ukrainian media is conducted with the active assistance of the United States and NATO, whose representatives, in conversations with Russian politicians, promised to start it immediately after the annexation of the Crimea.

In economic terms, the people of Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia, who signed the agreement on Euro-Association, are oriented towards the EU. Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are oriented both to the CIS countries and to the outside world, while Russia, Belarus, Armenia and Uzbekistan do not have a clearly defined external orientation. As an object of labor migration, the Russian Federation is of the greatest interest to the citizens of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Armenia. Residents of the "Slavic" CIS countries are more interested in temporary work outside of its borders - in the EU countries.

The most attractive country of origin of goods within the former USSR was Russia, which was mentioned from 18 to 55% of respondents. The countries of Central Asia are focused on it most of all, where this indicator ranges from 49 to 55%.

Nevertheless, today Russia is not perceived as an unequivocal economic and scientific-technical leader of the CIS, which has not completed the modernization of its national economic complex.
In political and military-political terms, most of the CIS countries are guided by the neighboring post-Soviet states. The exception is Georgia, focused on the US and the EU, as well as Azerbaijan, which considers Turkey its main ally. A sharp decline in the level of perception of the CIS countries as friendly was recorded in Ukraine, where the positive assessment of the European Union sharply increased (from 36 to 48%). For all this, more than half (53%) of Ukrainians are considered as friendly CIS countries. In general, the population of the former USSR considers the most friendly country to be Russia, which put in the first place 87% of the population of Armenia, 83% from Belarus and 81-86% from the Central Asian republics. In Ukraine, the number of those who consider Russia to be a friendly country has more than doubled over the year (from 54 to 24%), with the result that Belarus has come to the first place. In addition, the share of those who consider the RF a friendly country fell in Moldova (from 72 to 56%) and Kyrgyzstan (from 93 to 81%), which is a member of the CSTO and a candidate to join the Customs Union.

The situation is even more complicated in the cultural and humanitarian sphere, which, unlike politics and macroeconomics, directly affects ordinary people. Over the past two decades, Russia has clearly lost the position of a leading scientific and educational center in the former Soviet Union. Russian education is perceived as competitive only by residents of Central Asian countries, and the dynamics here are also rather negative.

And since Russia is the natural political and geographical center of the CIS, reducing its cultural and humanitarian role can have a disintegrating effect not only on the post-Soviet space, but also on the Customs and Eurasian unions.
It is precisely the various educational projects that are one of the key elements of the policy of “soft power”, which allowed the USA to organize a series of color revolutions in the CIS countries. In the current situation, Russia is forced to urgently seek a vaccine for this virus.

The overall picture drawn by the third wave of the “Integration Barometer” seems contradictory. By the population of most of the CIS countries, Russia is still perceived as a military and political leader of the Commonwealth. However, its economic and cultural positions are assessed far less clearly. In terms of integration, the greatest interest for each other, as shown by survey results, are Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan. However, Ukraine is increasingly oriented towards the West, and Kazakhstan is becoming increasingly integrated into Eurasian structures. At the same time, the projects of the Customs and Eurasian Economic Unions have an integrating effect on the post-Soviet space, and the Ukrainian crisis has a disintegrating effect. Leaving behind the civil war in Ukraine, the medium and long-term consequences of which are still not completely clear, we can state the further differentiation of the countries of the post-Soviet space. In time, it will most likely lead to the formation of a Eurasian core headed by Russia and a group of "non-aligned" states that will be oriented towards the United States, the European Union, or, like Azerbaijan, major states of the Middle and Near East.
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  1. 0
    9 November 2014 14: 42
    "Non-aligned" states that will focus on the US, EU,


    Focus on the USA and the EU, only full nerds can, it’s clear that the EU and the USA are already dying entities
    1. +20
      9 November 2014 14: 56
      Optimist you my friend winked are you familiar with the budget of these dying people? Especially the military?
      1. +3
        9 November 2014 15: 03
        are you familiar with the budget of these dying people? Especially the military?


        The Roman Empire was also an indestructible power until the so-called barbarians came
        1. +8
          9 November 2014 15: 14
          And how many years did she lament? Yes, and not in the barbarians basically it was a problem.
          1. 0
            9 November 2014 20: 55
            Quote: MooH
            And how many years did she lament? Yes, and not in the barbarians basically it was a problem.

            What difference does it make? It is important that the death of the Roman Empire was not avoided.
            PS: If I could, there would be a completely different story, in every sense.
            1. +2
              9 November 2014 21: 44
              It is important that the death of the Roman Empire was not avoided.


              No one has yet escaped death.
        2. +13
          9 November 2014 15: 57
          Quote: herruvim
          The Roman Empire was also an indestructible power until the so-called barbarians came

          The Roman Empire was defeated more because it was mired in luxury and debauchery, it rotted from the inside, the barbarians simply put the final chord.
          The modern US empire also follows this path, but unlike the Romans, the US empire keeps the world on the dollar.
          1. +6
            9 November 2014 16: 17
            Quote: APASUS
            The modern US empire also follows this path, but unlike the Romans, the US empire keeps the world on the dollar.


            Rather, the EU follows this path, especially its members from the countries of the so-called "old Europe".
          2. +2
            9 November 2014 21: 24
            Quote: APASUS
            Quote: herruvim
            The Roman Empire was also an indestructible power until the so-called barbarians came

            The Roman Empire was defeated more because it was mired in luxury and debauchery, it rotted from the inside, the barbarians simply put the final chord.
            The modern US empire also follows this path, but unlike the Romans, the US empire keeps the world on the dollar.

            Yes, the difference is actually not so great.
            By the way, AIDS patients, in general, are not killed by the HIV virus itself, it only destroys the immune system, and everything else is killed by secondary infections.
            Likewise, once the Roman Empire and now the United States and the West as a whole are ruined by greed, and they are finishing off all kinds of tolerance, multiculturalism and the substitution of propaganda for freedom of speech. An aggressive attitude towards everything that, in their opinion, hinders them (the ruling "elites" of the United States and the West as a whole), only aggravates the course of the disease and contributes to its spread and aggravation. The patient will either begin to fight the root cause (though this is how to whip himself), or he will die, spreading a stinking stench with the risk of killing the rest of the world along with him.
        3. +6
          9 November 2014 16: 02
          Barbarians- where are you?
          Awww ...
          Urgently ruin the USA!
          1. +1
            9 November 2014 16: 19
            Quote: UralChel
            Barbarians- where are you?
            Awww ...
            Urgently ruin the USA!


            So far, the Americans themselves are more like barbarians.
            1. +2
              9 November 2014 17: 16
              Quote: RUSS
              Quote: UralChel
              Barbarians- where are you?
              Awww ...
              Urgently ruin the USA!


              So far, the Americans themselves are more like barbarians.

              Correctly! They themselves are already beginning to break up. The legalization of marijuana alone is already talking about the decomposition that has begun. Holland, which has taken this path, poses no threat to anyone in the world except itself. But the United States ... Imagine for a second what the inadequate American president can do. Although, on the other hand, after the Second Roosevelt, there seemed to be no adequate among them.
              1. +1
                9 November 2014 21: 34
                Quote: ksv1973
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: UralChel
                Barbarians- where are you?
                Awww ...
                Urgently ruin the USA!


                So far, the Americans themselves are more like barbarians.

                Correctly! They themselves are already beginning to break up. The legalization of marijuana alone is already talking about the decomposition that has begun ...

                They forgot the example of China, which had once sat down, not without their participation, on opium ...
            2. +2
              9 November 2014 21: 31
              Quote: RUSS
              Quote: UralChel
              Barbarians- where are you?
              Awww ...
              Urgently ruin the USA!


              So far, the Americans themselves are more like barbarians.

              No more than the corrupted patricians of ancient Rome.
              "Plebeians" and "barbarians" also want to be patricians ... They are already knocking on their ("patrician") doors ... One even managed to become the President of the United States ...
          2. +1
            9 November 2014 21: 26
            Quote: UralChel
            Barbarians- where are you?
            Awww ...
            Urgently ruin the USA!

            They are already everywhere: in the Middle East, in Europe, in Africa and within the United States itself. Don't you see them yourself?
        4. 0
          9 November 2014 20: 52
          Quote: herruvim
          are you familiar with the budget of these dying people? Especially the military?


          The Roman Empire was also an indestructible power until the so-called barbarians came

          Good example.
      2. 0
        9 November 2014 17: 02
        The thought is true. It is necessary to tighten India, China, Vietnam, Israel, Turkey in the Customs Union, but there are quite a few questions to Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.
        1. 0
          9 November 2014 18: 06
          They don't need it
        2. +2
          9 November 2014 18: 36
          Quote: Bob0859
          The thought is true. It is necessary to tighten India, China, Vietnam, Israel, Turkey in the Customs Union, but there are quite a few questions to Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan.

          Collective farm, voluntary.
      3. +1
        9 November 2014 20: 50
        Quote: MooH
        Optimist you my friend winked are you familiar with the budget of these dying people? Especially the military?

        About such people (like the eternally dying West) they say: "A healthy tree immediately falls, and a rotten one creaks for a hundred years."
        It is true that the West is dying so slowly and for a long time that many people have already begun to doubt it, does not cancel the very fact of its approaching death (maybe he and we, and everyone else will be dragged along with him) if he (the West) does not radically change. Until now, he practically managed to delay his death by almost cosmetic changes alone, but the poultices no longer help, more powerful and effective means are urgently needed. Is the West ready for this? I don’t know, so far it seems to me that no.
    2. +1
      9 November 2014 15: 06
      Among the countries that are not participants in the CU, the highest level of public support was recorded in Tajikistan (72%) and Uzbekistan (68%), which are the leaders of Central Asia in the number of labor migrants working in Russia.

      The rest means they want to go to Turks and China ..? Maybe they really let go ... (we’ll better strengthen the border with this money ..) There’s no support anyway ..! Only if we wet it immediately without warning .. (we don’t make excuses they themselves knew they passed and seized power ..)) How did the men get it all .. this is extortion)))) am
      1. +2
        9 November 2014 16: 21
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The rest means they want to Turks and China ..?


        If this is so, then one can soon forget about the "Kirghiz" nation, but as an Azeri, there may indeed be more along the way with the Turks, after all, almost one nation.
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    4. +1
      9 November 2014 16: 27
      We don’t drag anyone into our unions, as they say, the collective farm is voluntary, each state must determine its own development vector, we are glad to everyone who wants to cooperate with us.
      1. +8
        9 November 2014 17: 38
        We want more allies and candidates, then there is only one way - TO INCREASE THE SUBJECT LEVEL OF PEOPLE'S LIFE, THEIR WELL-BEING. And that’s all. If we live well and richly, then the neighbors will stretch.
        Clinton did not in vain say that the US goal is to prevent the creation of the EAEU. Ukraine is their actions to achieve this goal. hi
        1. 0
          11 November 2014 13: 38
          Quote: Kasym
          We want more allies and candidates, then there is only one way - TO INCREASE THE SUBJECT LEVEL OF PEOPLE'S LIFE, THEIR WELL-BEING. And that’s all. If we live well and richly, then the neighbors will stretch.


          Very funny. Especially against today's radiant statements.
    5. 0
      9 November 2014 20: 38
      Quote: herruvim
      "Non-aligned" states that will focus on the US, EU,


      Focus on the USA and the EU, only full nerds can, it’s clear that the EU and the USA are already dying entities

      There is a good Russian saying: "An old friend is better than two new ones." Popular wisdom has been tested for centuries.
      Mankurts of happiness cannot be seen no matter how puffed up and swagger.
      1. +1
        9 November 2014 20: 49
        Quote: PENZYAC
        Mankurts of happiness cannot be seen no matter how puffed up and swagger.


        Well, as if for Azerbaijanis, for example, old friends are Turkey and Iran.
        1. +1
          9 November 2014 21: 08
          Quote: Zymran
          old friends are Turkey and Iran.

          As for Iran, you are of course joking)))))
          1. 0
            9 November 2014 21: 55
            But what about the very strong positions of ethnic Azerbaijanis in the clergy of Iran?
          2. +2
            9 November 2014 21: 57
            Quote: lonely
            As for Iran, you are of course joking)))))


            Well, I had in mind the huge Azerbaijani irredent in Iran, plus the Kyzylbashi are Azeri Turks.
            1. 0
              9 November 2014 23: 37
              Quote: Zymran
              Well, I had in mind the huge Azerbaijani irredent in Iran, plus the Kyzylbashi are Azeri Turks.

              Well, yes, our people are from 25 to 35% of the total population. But it doesn’t matter. Iran’s state policy towards us is difficult to say friendly. Yes, and to be honest, we keep our distance. As for Kyzylbash, you They are right. It was Kyzylbashi who ruled Iran for several centuries. Until 1925, the Shahs of Iran were Azerbaijanis.
        2. 0
          9 November 2014 21: 43
          Quote: Zymran
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Mankurts of happiness cannot be seen no matter how puffed up and swagger.


          Well, as if for Azerbaijanis, for example, old friends are Turkey and Iran.

          "Friends" in quotes?
          1. +1
            10 November 2014 13: 22
            Quote: PENZYAC
            "Friends" in quotes?

            Iran yes. But Turkey no. The only Erdogan would be thrown there, then the Turkic beginning would be the first. And with the people there is unity.
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        4. +1
          9 November 2014 22: 04
          Quote: Zymran
          Well, as if for Azerbaijanis, for example, old friends are Turkey and Iran.

          More likely Turkey. By the way, she was the first to recognize Azerbaijan, and in 18 and 91. Plus support for Karabakh, up to an open input of troops (threatened). True, although both belong to the Turks, but some Shiites are other Sunnis (mostly)
          And just put a finger in Iran’s mouth, right there they’ll take their co-religionists under their wing, so to speak, Azerbaijan, insidiously separated by unfaithful Russians (there are 30 million of them, that is, Azerbaijanis in Iran). And all the khan of a secular state-woo.
          1. 0
            9 November 2014 23: 39
            Quote: Region 23
            And just put a finger in Iran’s mouth, right there they’ll take their co-religionists under their wing, so to speak, Azerbaijan, insidiously separated by unfaithful Russians (there are 30 million of them, that is, Azerbaijanis in Iran). And all the khan of a secular state-woo.

            That’s why we don’t want to go to Iran. We keep a distance from them, as it were. A secular state is still better than religious tyranny. Although, to be honest, this is all religious management of a screen. They drink and prick like everywhere else, only secretly))) )
            1. 0
              10 November 2014 07: 52
              Quote: lonely
              That’s why we don’t want to go to Iran. We keep as if to say a distance from them. A secular state is still better,

              "Not gut" when there are too many people who want to become "big brothers"? You decide with whom, how and when. I, from my bell tower, for the Russian Federation, save the state, Turkey and Iran will swallow you up and not choke. And the problems with Armenia will be resolved over time (for 70 years we lived normally). All all the best.
              1. 0
                10 November 2014 07: 55
                eh! There was a time! But again, the collective farm is voluntary.
          2. +1
            10 November 2014 13: 23
            Quote: Region 23
            but some Shiites are other Sunnis (mostly)

            You will not meet this issue between Azerbaijanis and Turks. This is for Arabs))
  2. Denis fj
    -10
    9 November 2014 14: 51
    Everything that happens in this world is often completely unpredictable, until 2008, too, everything and everything collapsed, the country was almost on the verge of yet another default, the enormous tension of the prerequisites for all kinds of riots is enormous, the fifth column endlessly threatens with its revolutions, the people are dying catastrophically, Ukraine is dominated by the Oranges, full out. And suddenly, the events of 2008 are clearly changing for the better, there is a noticeable increase in Russia's authority in the world, the attention of Europeans, the country is developing rapidly, ships, planes, submarines are being built, the army is being strengthened, the country is being mass-built, developing, everything is on the rise; problems are being solved birth rate, the main ideologist of reforms, Gaidar, is probably feeling that his work and life's actions are in vain. There is a rapprochement with Ukraine.
    Russia of the year 2013 is a completely different matter. The country has clearly gained strength, has become one of the leading world powers in the economy, having regained the status that it always had and should have, actually being among the largest economies in the world, we are talking about the fact that it again She became a superpower on an equal footing able to contradict America, regaining her sovereignty, yesterday she was essentially buried forever, and here it’s again a smile on the faces of people, joy, happiness that they have long forgotten since they were 91 years old. Who could have thought that there could be life after death.
    The tragic events of 2014, again a national catastrophe that raises the question of the existence of Russia in general, not only in the near term, but in general in history, in the future with its people, we can even say again that the country's situation was not as deplorable as at present . Death and life go alongside people like happiness, joy, brotherhood and tragedy, civil war. Everything is nearby, yesterday happy people are again plunging into the prison cold, and in the coming cold of life he has no other than devils, but he will die out again and he will no longer need anything, not a submarine, not a ship, not a rocket.
    The impending darkness with the devil can again throw people into the chaos that they have forgotten, disaster, the tragedy of the 90s, hopelessness, powerlessness, slavery, poverty, extinction, the collapse of everything and everything. Wickedness triumphs, but the people and the country again lose.
    1. +11
      9 November 2014 15: 00
      Quote: denis fj
      The tragic events of 2014, again a national catastrophe that raises the question of the existence of Russia in general, not only in the near term, but in general in history, in the future with its people, we can even say again that the country's situation was not as deplorable as at present . Death and life go alongside people like happiness, joy, brotherhood and tragedy, civil war. Everything is nearby, yesterday happy people are again plunging into the prison cold, and in the coming cold of life he has no other than devils, but he will die out again and he will no longer need anything, not a submarine, not a ship, not a rocket.
      The impending darkness with the devil can again throw people into the chaos that they have forgotten, disaster, the tragedy of the 90s, hopelessness, powerlessness, slavery, poverty, extinction, the collapse of everything and everything. Wickedness triumphs, but the people and the country again lose.
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      what kind of "doe r.m.o. ??? with" echo "licked off? what prison cold? what tragedy? what slavery? smoked or something ??? collapse in the author's brain ... fool
  3. +6
    9 November 2014 15: 35
    I was pleased with the photo of the President of Russia Putin and the Azerbaijan flag.
    1. +3
      9 November 2014 16: 23
      Quote: TURKISH
      I was pleased with the photo of the President of Russia Putin and the Azerbaijan flag.


      In fairness, the photo shows not only the Azerbaijani flag, but also the Kazakh one and, it seems, the Kyrgyz one.
    2. +6
      9 November 2014 22: 00
      By the way, I congratulate all Azerbaijanis on the holiday - National Flag Day of the republic.
      1. +2
        9 November 2014 23: 40
        Thank you. Thank you for your congratulations.
  4. +2
    9 November 2014 15: 55
    As long as Russia is strong, they will all be with us. And China will even be friends and sing "Russian and Chinese - brothers for the century!" (C). The East understands only the Strong, the Lucky and the Booty. At least explain to them that we are not going to win anyone, we are going our own way. They will line up in the wake that we don't want to conquer anyone either, so, we only go to see the Friend. Genghis Khan was not at all a savage from the Mongol steppes. Economically, a nomadic Steppe would not have fed and armed such a crowd. Russia was also based on the war of dynasties. There are many rulers, their heirs are 5 (10) more. Everyone wants to be the first. The first experience of the Vertical of Power and One-Man Management has led to what. Until now, children are frightened by Russians ...
    1. 0
      9 November 2014 16: 28
      Quote: chelovektapok
      As long as Russia is strong, they will all be with us. And China will even be friends and sing "Russian and Chinese - brothers for the century!" (C). The East understands only the Strong, the Lucky and the Booty.


      RF and PRC sign a memorandum on gas supplies via the “western route”
      Russia and China have signed 17 documents that relate, inter alia, to cooperation in the gas sector.

      In particular, in the presence of the President of the Russian Federation and the President of the PRC, a memorandum was signed in the field of gas supplies from Russia to China along the “western route”, a framework agreement between Gazprom and the China National Oil and Gas Corporation on the supply of natural gas from Russia to China, a memorandum of understanding between Gazprom and China National Offshore Oil Corporation.

      In addition, framework agreements were signed between Rosneft and the China National Oil and Gas Corporation regarding the acquisition by China National Oil and Gas Exploration and Development of a 10% interest in Vankorneft, on cooperation between Sberbank and the Chinese export credit insurance company. , as well as between the territorial generating company No. 2 and the Huadian company on the implementation of investment energy projects in the Arkhangelsk region.

      The parties also signed a technical agreement on the temporary change of the delivery point for the period 2015-2017 under the long-term crude oil purchase and sale contract of June 21, 2013 on a prepayment basis under an agreement between the governments of the two countries, an agreement between RusHydro and the corporation Sansya ”on co-financing, construction and operation of hydroelectric power stations in the Far East, an agreement between RusHydro and Power China on cooperation in the field of construction of hydroaccumulators with Antium, a framework agreement on credit lines between the RF Savings Bank and Export-Import Bank of China, as well as the buyer credit agreement between the institutions.

      In addition, financing conditions were signed for a loan agreement with a buyer to credit customer transactions between Sberbank and the Export-Import Bank of China, three contracts between Eurocementgroup and Sinoma International CDRI for the supply of equipment, a cooperation agreement between VTB Bank and Huawei Technologies ”, as well as a memorandum of understanding between Vnesheconombank, VEB Asia, the housing mortgage lending agency and the state development bank of China.
  5. 0
    9 November 2014 16: 04
    What is this article ?! It seems that this is the term paper of the next fifth-year student of the "Political-Social-Humanitarian-International University" named after Novodvorskaya ?! A lot of numbers, names, unfounded conclusions, but pathos, pathos! A man thinks about Russia ... Let him "think", others should not be kept for idiots ..!
  6. +4
    9 November 2014 16: 25
    The level of public support for Eurasian integration in Belarus, the smallest union economy that is heavily dependent on Russia, remains at its lowest level since 2012.



    because onions, jumping like a louse, today he goes to Europe, tomorrow he’s licking Russia, the day after tomorrow he’s worrying about the Ukrainian fascists, they say how do you know, the old man said that Ukraine is indivisible, it’s true. from all this, brains begin to swell.
    and still all these rags, yes news portals "nezalezhnaya", they add oil to the fire. Russia is an enemy, they want to deprive us of "nezalezhnasti"
    1. raf
      0
      10 November 2014 06: 43
      because onions, jumping like lice
      I agree with you, she’s still a louse! negative Dangles like a weather vane in the wind, I would have decided already, I got nafig!
  7. +5
    9 November 2014 16: 41
    Well, in principle, what was to be expected. Quite a realistic result of the survey.
  8. +4
    9 November 2014 16: 42
    Blown figures for Kazakhstan are some.


    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    because onions, jumping like a louse, today he goes to Europe, tomorrow he’s licking Russia, the day after tomorrow he’s worrying about the Ukrainian fascists, they say how do you know, the old man said that Ukraine is indivisible, it’s true. from all this, brains begin to swell.


    Lukashenka is highly respected in Kazakhstan precisely for the fact that he knocks out the maximum benefit for his country, in contrast to our "leader of the nation."
    1. -5
      9 November 2014 17: 05
      Quote: Zymran
      Lukashenka is highly respected in Kazakhstan precisely for the fact that he knocks out the maximum benefit for his country, in contrast to our "leader of the nation."

      As you spoke well ..... BENEFITS! I’ll tell you a secret (there will be a major blow in Belarus as usual ..) In Kazakhstan, if it does, it will reach the Russia on the steppes and off-road .. the remains and surrender .. they’ll shoot as if on target ..))) you want to have something with us ... It's a shame tries! Soon we will have it (don’t be offended there ..) Everything will be modest and lawful .. BUSINESS and NOTHING PERSONAL .. hi
      1. +3
        9 November 2014 19: 59
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In Kazakhstan, if it does, it will reach the Russia on the steppes and off-road .. the remnants and surrender .. they’ll shoot as if on targets ..))) Oh, you all want to have something from us ... It's a shame!
        Mikhan, come on to Kazakh vodka. We have it even the most cheap - in quality.good And then I look, from your fawn, you have absolutely ... fellow
        Quote: MIKHAN
        All of us want to fuck something ..
        We have, as in that joke - "there is not enough mayonnaise for you"
        Vitsin, Nikulin and Morgunov agreed with three ladies to meet on the beach. how
        discover?
        - We will be in polka dot swimsuits. Come to the beach. Watching:
        - Ours! - says Morgunov.
        - Ours! - says Nikulin. Vitsin got scared and asks:
        “Let's go from here guys, otherwise we don’t have enough mayonnaise on their peas.”
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      1. +1
        9 November 2014 17: 08
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Oh, ex, you all want to fuck us with something ...


        It depends on who. Kazakhstan, or rather Nazarbayev, is ready to give you everything in return without demanding. Apparently Putin is holding him tightly for something.
        1. +1
          9 November 2014 17: 22
          Quote: Zymran
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Oh, ex, you all want to fuck us with something ...


          It depends on who. Kazakhstan, or rather Nazarbayev, is ready to give you everything in return without demanding. Apparently Putin is holding him tightly for something.

          Why keep you there? You don’t have any army for a long time already distributed (oil gas and other resources _) .. The vast northern territories have long been launched .. I checked! hi
          1. 0
            9 November 2014 17: 33
            Well, so would lag behind us ?! hi
            1. -4
              9 November 2014 17: 48
              Quote: Zymran
              Well, so would lag behind us ?! hi

              If the territory was small .. Yes, for God's sake! They sat there for rent .... from gas and oil (in a small nook ... And who will protect the rest? ... Again Russia?
            2. +7
              9 November 2014 18: 13
              In my opinion, the economic heritage of the USSR holds us together. Half of the Urals on Kazakh coal. All exports to the West for Kazakhstan go through the Russian Federation (transport routes). Etc. etc .. So why should this legacy be thrown out-it must be used wisely and further, for the common good ?! Moreover, there are opportunities to expand our trade.
              FOR MICHAN. Example. One of the three largest hydrocarbon fields in the Republic of Kazakhstan is Karachaganak. Kazakhstan, having 10% (and this is a "gift" from 4 other participants in the project) in it and not investing a penny, receives 80% of the profit from this deposit (my wife is related to the operation of this deposit). And you call this a sale of our wealth? I WISH THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION OF SUCH DISTRIBUTIONS OF OWN NATURAL WEALTHS!
              The sanctions imposed on the Russian Federation led to the fact that the Republic of Kazakhstan has additional orders from the Russian Federation for 6,7 mln. dollars. Out of 190 points critical for Russia, the Republic of Kazakhstan took over 39. What you agree is important for both countries. And I don’t think that now someone will be able to move us here.
              Well, and more personally for MIKHAN. KAZAKHSTAN'S GDP GROWTH FOR THE FIRST HALF-YEAR 5,9%. But in Russia? Well, about the northern RK. But aren't the Russians all agricultural there. exported products - in our season prices rose !!! on the village. products ?! According to statistics, 10-15%! In season! Watermelons as they cost 40 tenge at the beginning of the season remained the whole season! And usually they fell 2-3 times - especially wholesale. Even Japanese journalists noted that the melons of the Russian Federation were replaced by Kazakhstani ones.
              And about the army. According to conversations, the budget of the Moscow Region will be increased by 3 times. At least, contentment will grow. And most importantly. Everything you do with army reform is copied from us. It may seem strange to you. But for Kazakhstanis this is not a secret. On this site, in PM, I received a letter asking HELP to get a job! Your conscripts are fleeing the service, and our are ready to give bribes! What time!
              Agree, not all states have aerobatic teams, especially on heavy. fighters (there are generally units). And this is our pilot. column Leopards Zhetysu.
              1. +1
                9 November 2014 18: 18
                Quote: Kasym
                In my opinion, the economic heritage of the USSR holds us together.


                Rather, the NAS cares about its family. ;)
                1. +3
                  9 November 2014 18: 55
                  Our villagers are satisfied - this cannot but rejoice.
                  I already have zero attention to the family. Well these oligarchs.
                  Our MiG-29. What a paintwork!
                  1. +2
                    9 November 2014 19: 01
                    Or MiG-23. I saw these at work at the training ground.
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    3. +1
      9 November 2014 18: 35
      dear, I understood your position, but you don’t need to judge by our leader from your news. So come to us, live a year and try to feed your family 450 yu per month, and then express your opinion with coca onion
      actually
      1. 0
        9 November 2014 18: 50
        I do not idealize Luke, I just pointed out what impressed me in it. hi
    4. 0
      9 November 2014 21: 50
      Quote: Zymran
      Blown figures for Kazakhstan are some.


      Quote: hedgehog in the fog
      because onions, jumping like a louse, today he goes to Europe, tomorrow he’s licking Russia, the day after tomorrow he’s worrying about the Ukrainian fascists, they say how do you know, the old man said that Ukraine is indivisible, it’s true. from all this, brains begin to swell.


      Lukashenka is highly respected in Kazakhstan precisely for the fact that he knocks out the maximum benefit for his country, in contrast to our "leader of the nation."

      In Russia, he, too, may, of course, be disliked, like any cunningly made blackmailer, but at the same time, they respect him for the same thing.
  9. -6
    9 November 2014 17: 03
    The sharpest decline in pro-Russian and Eurasian sentiment was in Ukraine, which at the time of the survey (April-May) was in a state of acute confrontation with Russia because of the loss of the Crimea. The support of the idea of ​​joining the CU by residents of the republic for the year decreased from 50 to 31%, and its negative perception increased from 28 to 50%. Such strong shifts in public attitudes are explained by a deep military-political crisis and a massive information campaign aimed at discrediting Eurasian integration. Its main goal is mental-psychological recoding of Ukrainians, whose main national idea is to make Russophobia. The information war against Russia in the Ukrainian media is conducted with the active assistance of the United States and NATO, whose representatives, in conversations with Russian politicians, promised to start it immediately after the annexation of the Crimea.

    I think this thesis is wrong.
    If in May April you can still believe that it has halved. Now even the most pro-Russian people don’t want a vehicle.
    Yes, it’s true that until February it was 50 or higher per vehicle.
    After the Crimea, it became well maybe 2-10% and then optimistic if.
    The problem cannot be attributed to the United States and Russophobia - it is convenient for the media (they say it’s not our fault, it’s all the United States crap), since the Russian Federation did not think about how it would explain Crimea to every Ukrainian and prove the need for a TS ... Therefore, the ideas of the TS collapsed after Crimea. You can't take away and try to order the need to be together at the same time. It's a pity - it was possible to return Crimea and completely maintain loyalty. The Russian Federation is to blame for not doing this. More precisely, the beginning, but then the material part of the "Crimea's win" played a role. In vain, the Russian Federation destroyed all the treaties and immediately actually declared "war" (in that, without explaining the position, it immediately began to demand reparations and take away the property of Ukrainians in Crimea)
    You can argue for a long time that this is right or wrong. But this step was reckless. Since it provided opponents of integration with the Russian Federation with new forces. And soon, the whole country simply ceased to see in Russia not only an economic partner, but just a neighbor ...
    And there were ways to logically solve the transition of Crimea and preserve the position of the population of Ukraine .. The trouble is that the Russian Federation probably had an advisor (at the beginning of these processes), but the loot won out evil. And everything happened according to the banal scheme of "spinning the business"
    TS crashed in Ukraine.
    1. +2
      9 November 2014 17: 10
      You had to stop in the Crimea and not start a fire in the east.

      Quote: Cristall
      And the ways of a logical solution to the transition of Crimea and maintaining the position of the population of Ukraine were ..


      How so?
      1. +5
        9 November 2014 17: 27
        So what? When the raguli came to the south-east of Ukraine and started killing locals who simply sat unarmed at the entrances to villages and towns, what did they think they would get in return from the locals? And the thugs raids on collector armored cars with the abduction of the dissatisfied. Is it all up to the Russian Federation? Ukrainians themselves poured gasoline onto the smoldering bonfire of federalism, and he burned the last ties between East and West. I perfectly remember the videos of April 2014 from those places. So do not shift from sore to healthy.
    2. Demon0n
      +1
      9 November 2014 21: 11
      Quote: Cristall

      ...
      The problem cannot be attributed to the United States and Russophobia - it is convenient for the media (they say it’s not our fault, it’s all the United States crap), since the Russian Federation did not think about how it would explain Crimea to every Ukrainian and prove the need for a TS ... Therefore, the ideas of the TS collapsed after Crimea. You can't take away and try to order the need to be together at the same time. It's a pity - it was possible to return Crimea and completely maintain loyalty. The Russian Federation is to blame for not doing this. More precisely, the beginning, but then the material part of the "Crimea's win" played a role. In vain, the Russian Federation destroyed all the treaties and immediately actually declared "war" (in that, without explaining the position, it immediately began to demand reparations and take away the property of Ukrainians in Crimea)
      You can argue for a long time that this is right or wrong. But this step was reckless. Since it provided opponents of integration with the Russian Federation with new forces. And soon, the whole country simply ceased to see in Russia not only an economic partner, but just a neighbor ...
      And there were ways to logically solve the transition of Crimea and preserve the position of the population of Ukraine .. The trouble is that the Russian Federation probably had an advisor (at the beginning of these processes), but the loot won out evil. And everything happened according to the banal scheme of "spinning the business"
      TS crashed in Ukraine.


      And it is true that states cannot be blamed for all sins (this is so ... information for consideration, in the opposite direction) ... But, it is useful to remember and continue not to forget that everything has its own price. Do you seriously think that for the policy that they were preparing to pursue, even before the Crimean incident (the direction that was, remained the same), gingerbread had to be fed? Does it seem that there are some contradictions with reality in this assumption? Maybe a strong and long whip fits more? Does it not seem that Crimea has become a logical consequence of something (about the historical context, so be it - I will not say anything, but the voting results are quite indicative can provide food for thought)? Events cannot be taken out of context.
      Maybe all this was a consequence of the fact that people do not want to admit their mistakes in conjunction with some claims (perhaps not substantiated?)?
      As for Russia, we will pay the appropriate price for the steps that we take. Obviously, others will pay, even against their will (this is how the world works). The only question is awareness: what to pay for.
  10. -1
    9 November 2014 17: 36
    And so we live in Russia! All of us want to fuck something ..! It's a shame .. Well oh well .. Then we’ll come off to the fullest .. bully We will return everything ..
  11. 0
    9 November 2014 18: 33
    Quote: Kasym
    Well, and more personally for MIKHAN. KAZAKHSTAN'S GDP GROWTH FOR THE FIRST HALF-YEAR 5,9%. But in Russia?

    We have less. We are in sanctions ...! ... This is where you have oil and gas .. renting .... But the northern territories are one cop per 100 km ... And basically they are sitting on lakes in ambushes .. . bully The cap is usually visible far from the reeds ... bully Password "Bakshish"? ..If shouts "yakshi" is normal and so "kilmanda kudak surazu .." and the hunt rushed off .. the palba goes between "well, shudder for us and for gas .. and special forces" drinks The cap is usually retired ...)))
    1. +5
      9 November 2014 19: 14
      Thanks, laughed! Well, what to take from these traffic cops? Our (and yours and ours) traffic cops they are traffic cops in Africa! And 100 km is still not enough! You didn’t see our fines - not the correct parking 27 000 tenge ($ 150) - here it’s better to give 5 000 tenge! Or here is an example. Father-in-law drove to the supermarket for a ride. And in the parking lot the kid is fined for putting the car under the sign for the disabled - 92 tenge ($ 000)! He is upset, and traffic cops poke him a table of fines under his nose.
      Oil software. If we now jointly master deep drilling, then we will not need foreigners in many respects - the joint project "EURASIA" in the Caspian Sea with the RF and RK.
      Meehan, our government now relies on investment in processing, rather than in the primary sectors. Now I won’t, but there are many of these factors. drinks hi
  12. 0
    9 November 2014 19: 32
    Quote: Kasym
    Thanks, laughed! Well, what to take from these traffic cops? Our (and yours and ours) traffic cops they are traffic cops in Africa! And 100 km is still not enough! You didn’t see our fines - not the correct parking 27 000 tenge ($ 150) - here it’s better to give 5 000 tenge! Or here is an example. Father-in-law drove to the supermarket for a ride. And in the parking lot the kid is fined for putting the car under the sign for the disabled - 92 tenge ($ 000)! He is upset, and traffic cops poke him a table of fines under his nose.
    Oil software. If we now jointly master deep drilling, then we will not need foreigners in many respects - the joint project "EURASIA" in the Caspian Sea with the RF and RK.
    Meehan, our government now relies on investment in processing, rather than in the primary sectors. Now I won’t, but there are many of these factors. drinks hi

    In short, it’s better not to squander yours ... But seriously ... well done! Here are just let’s pull up the Army .. Not serious you have it .. (no offense) hi
    1. +5
      9 November 2014 21: 21
      By God, sometimes I even think that Vitaly is absorbing apiece))) Maybe I can pass the prescription, I also want to try it)))

      Know Vitaly, no offense, illogical reasoning. everything about new territories is dreaming. Yes, in Russia, so at least 2 times more territories of all (Canada), not counting others. Have you ever seen in what condition the hinterland is? What is hindering the development of the country? USA? maybe former from the USSR? EU? Or maybe your rotten bureaucratic elite with the oligarchy? Is it really impossible to do in Russia so that the country can provide 100% with everything necessary. We then achieved something in our country in this regard. For some products, 100%, and for some 80- 85-90%. Maybe all the same the problem is in YOU and not in others? Sometimes you didn’t think about it? Why does Israel occupy a significant place in the world in exporting agricultural products, having a territory of one or two and costed itself, and you even completely provide yourself with chicken Can you? What's the problem?
      1. +2
        9 November 2014 21: 35
        Meehan, I showed the planes. Pay attention to armored personnel carriers - all with art. installations, clearly repaired and modernized.
        1. +3
          9 November 2014 21: 40
          Last year, at the tank biathlon of the Republic of Kazakhstan, 2nd place, this 4th place. That is, there is preparation (although it's hard for me to talk about it).
          1. +2
            9 November 2014 21: 45
            A lot from the USSR, but they are trying to maintain and modernize.
      2. Demon0n
        +1
        9 November 2014 21: 42
        Quote: lonely
        By God, sometimes I even think that Vitaly is absorbing apiece))) Maybe I can pass the prescription, I also want to try it)))

        Know Vitaly, no offense, illogical reasoning. everything about new territories is dreaming. Yes, in Russia, so at least 2 times more territories of all (Canada), not counting others. Have you ever seen in what condition the hinterland is? What is hindering the development of the country? USA? maybe former from the USSR? EU? Or maybe your rotten bureaucratic elite with the oligarchy? Is it really impossible to do in Russia so that the country can provide 100% with everything necessary. We then achieved something in our country in this regard. For some products, 100%, and for some 80- 85-90%. Maybe all the same the problem is in YOU and not in others? Sometimes you didn’t think about it? Why does Israel occupy a significant place in the world in exporting agricultural products, having a territory of one or two and costed itself, and you even completely provide yourself with chicken Can you? What's the problem?


        If you could agree more than completely ...
        It has long been written that the attempt of any association (economic, cultural or any other, up to territorial ...; full, partial, conditional ...) should rely on many objective factors, most of which relate to the internal sphere.
        Until urgent internal acute problems are resolved, no one will feel much zeal. And this is understandable: if you can’t cope with the little things, then you can’t cope with larger scales - the standard simplified logic based on analogies. I do not try to offend anyone, but even interpersonal relations should be based on mutual benefits (tangible and not tangible), what to speak of interstate ... There are no benefits, there is no banquet.
        1. +1
          9 November 2014 23: 56
          Quote: Demon0n
          If you could agree more than completely ...
          It has long been written that the attempt of any association (economic, cultural or any other, up to territorial ...; full, partial, conditional ...) should rely on many objective factors, most of which relate to the internal sphere.
          Until urgent internal acute problems are resolved, no one will feel much zeal. And this is understandable: if you can’t cope with the little things, then you can’t cope with larger scales - the standard simplified logic based on analogies. I do not try to offend anyone, but even interpersonal relations should be based on mutual benefits (tangible and not tangible), what to speak of interstate ... There are no benefits, there is no banquet.

          Well, to unite, you must first prove that unification will benefit those who are going to do it. Let us think realistically and productively, discarding cheers and patriotic moods and thoughts (This does not concern you, I carefully read your comment hi In essence, what is proposed in the CU can also be drawn up in a bilateral format between states. For some issues, this is already being done. Secondly, the desire to create the USSR-2 in the form of a CU or the EAEU forces the creators to attract some countries that even in the days of the USSR, they were a burden for the Union Budget, that is, subsidized. And after the collapse, frankly, they became paupers. Here we ask ourselves the question: How can these countries be useful in the CU or the EAEU? They do nothing, factories and factories are in ruins, the budget formed by tranches from Ros and those that are unknown will be returned or not. Moreover, despite the fact that they are completely dependent, they also behave impudently and defiantly. Why do we need such poor allies? And there are enough questions about Russia. Little has been done about the economy in 20 years, the main thing is that the country remained dependent on the sale of natural resources. And the government did not take obvious steps to cut off this unfavorable trend. Moreover, all these industries are gathered in the hands of the oligarchs. We have almost the same thing. And again the question arises: Why should I still the neck of the Russian oligarchs, to when they already got theirs)))) laughing
          1. +1
            10 November 2014 11: 26
            Curious fact. After creating the vehicle. RK invested in Russia: in the first year 1,7 mln, in the next $ 3,9 mln. The Russian Federation invested in RK respectively 1 and 2 mln. It turns out that while ours are more interested (I mean for money).
  13. +2
    9 November 2014 19: 36
    Quote: Zymran
    I do not idealize Luke, I just pointed out what impressed me in it. hi


    do you like it so much that it’s on two fronts ?? this and with his people like that.
    Last year, my pay in the hands of 1100 ye. at the end of summer, this mug said a lot of builders get, now 650 ye. that’s all arithmetic, and the profit of our construction holding has grown by 25% for half a year.
    1. 0
      9 November 2014 20: 24
      Quote: hedgehog in the fog
      Last year, my pay in the hands of 1100 ye. at the end of summer, this mug said a lot of builders get, now 650 ye. that’s all arithmetic, and the profit of our construction holding has grown by 25% for half a year.


      Awful. Sorry.
  14. +1
    9 November 2014 22: 20
    Quote: Zymran
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    Last year, my pay in the hands of 1100 ye. at the end of summer, this mug said a lot of builders get, now 650 ye. that’s all arithmetic, and the profit of our construction holding has grown by 25% for half a year.


    Awful. Sorry.


    it’s not worth it, even though we live in Belarus, we have a Russian thinker, although not everyone understands this, we can get out in any situation. An intelligent electrician will never be lost))

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