About stupid Hitler and smart generals

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He repeatedly noted that in his memoirs German generals very carefully separated themselves from Hitler, arguing in every way that it was he and he who made stupid strategic and operational decisions, while all generals (especially the next author of the next memoirs) knew how to fight, what directions to attack, when and how. And that they, they say, in every way proved to Hitler and urged him. But he, stupid, did not listen to them, but if he had listened, then everything would have gone completely differently and the victory would have remained with Germany.

About stupid Hitler and smart generals


Naturally, Hitler is to blame for the defeat more than anyone else as the highest military leader, since the last word was always hiss. It had the burden of making a final decision. And if Germany lost the war, then the statement about Hitler’s incompetence in itself does not require proof.

But at the same time, the memoir generals somehow forget that Stalin was not a professional soldier, and in matters of warfare he was no more competent than Hitler, who at least got a gunfighter, but still smelled gunpowder in the First World War. To some extent, it can be assumed that Hitler’s incompetence was compensated by Stalin’s incompetence. And in general, how many are the newest story knows the top state leaders who would be outstanding military experts? French Prime Minister Reynaud was never military. US President T. Roosevelt, too. The head of the English government, Winston Churchill, although he graduated from a military college, did not make a military career, and therefore had no practical knowledge. Interestingly it turns out: the military incompetence of the heads of the United States, Britain, France and the USSR ultimately did not prevent successfully waging the war, but for some reason it prevented the Führer.

However, the assertions of the beaten generals and field marshals that if Hitler had made decisions based on their opinions, the victory would have been certain, it would not be possible to refute only because the battles did not take place according to their scenarios.

Unfortunately, life and real war are not computer games, when you can play a battle, first in one variant, then in another, third and unequivocally say then that the decision of one player was wrong, and the other was right.

And yet there is every reason to believe that the opinions and proposals of the German generals were far from always correct and promised success.

Take Hitler’s first military decision to bring troops into the demilitarized Rhineland in 1936. The generals unanimously argued that this act would cause an immediate military reaction from France and England, that they would instantly invade the Rhineland and throw out weak German units from there. But we now know that Hitler was right, not the generals. The militarization of the Rhineland passed without a hitch without a hitch. Consequently, Hitler was right in this case, because he did not listen to his generals. His decision turned out to be correct, and not the general's concerns.

Anschluss of Austria in 1938. The newly alarmed generals proved to Hitler the unreasonableness of such a decision, predicting major international complications, up to the Allied attack on Germany. Result? The world accepted the accession of Austria to Germany. Hitler was right again, not his outstanding military strategists.

Well, it was less military-political decisions, and more political.

But here is a purely military-political decision on the annexation of the Sudetenland by Czechoslovakia. This country then had a very strong army, plus it was in military alliance with France, England, Poland and even with the USSR. Wehrmacht General Beck even submitted a memorandum in which he argued that this act would trigger an allied war against Germany, in which the Germans could not stand. With the general agreement of the meeting of senior military leaders, this memorandum was officially sent to Hitler. And what? Hitler was again right, not the generals. The world has come to terms with the seizure of a large part of its territory from Czechoslovakia.

Suppose that in this case, too, the decision was more military-political, not military, and that the generals here are not very competent. Although the military strategy itself as a science lies on the border of pure politics and pure war. All strategic decisions are the essence of the military-political.

Next, 15 March, 1939, the Wehrmacht invades Czechoslovakia and occupies it. This is a purely military act. According to the German generals, the decision to invade Czechoslovakia will certainly lead to a big war in Europe, as a result of which Germany will be defeated. After all, Poland clearly stated that it would support Czechoslovakia. Soviet divisions are pulling up to the border in readiness to immediately come to the aid of the Czechs at their first request, as soon as the consent of the Polish government to pass Soviet troops through their territory is obtained (in the 1939, the USSR and Czechoslovakia did not have a common border).

And again it turns out that the opinions and calculations of the German strategists are erroneous and incorrect. The operation ends with great success. Again, the correct solution is Hitler.

War with Poland. Yes, the predictions of the German generals that an attack on Poland would lead to a big war in Europe were finally justified. France and England declared war on Germany. But again, the events in 1939 year did not unfold as the brilliant German field marshals counted, but in the manner that the incompetent Hitler had assumed. Poland was defeated in a matter of weeks, and its allies only marked the war, but in fact did not take any action.

There is no need to describe further the events of 1940 – 1941 until 6 in December of 1941, when every time the generals' fears were in vain, and everything developed in the best way for Germany in accordance with Hitler’s plans.

Another consideration.

Hitler, like any other head of state, did not take decisions and did not give orders, based only on his ideas, thoughts and calculations. He consulted with his ministers, generals, demanded to calculate various options for waging war, battles, asked for initial data, found out what was required for success. Of course, Hitler made the final decision, but on the basis of the data that the generals presented to him.

When the generals in their memoirs write about their disputes with Hitler, they somehow very cleverly bypass the question, and on the basis of what did Hitler take a different way than the solution they proposed? Only from personal stubbornness? Hardly. It is easy to assume that the Führer also had opposite opinions from other equally high-ranking generals, and Hitler’s opponents could not convincingly substantiate their point of view. In other words, in Hitler’s making wrong decisions, a large proportion of the guilt is still the same German generals.

This is confirmed by the German historian A. Filippi, who, in his book Pripyat Problem, describes the process of developing and adopting the military plans of Germany. For example, the development of a plan for an attack on the USSR began with the fact that the Chief of the General Staff of the Wehrmacht Land Forces, General Halder, suggested that several generals should develop a draft outline. As a result, the three most promising plans were born. The first is the development of OKN, the second plan is General Marx and the third is General von Soderstern. Each of them had both positive and negative points. Note that all three plans were proposed by the highest German generals. And you could only choose one. A similar system operated in the development of each military campaign of the Wehrmacht.

It is easy to understand how the thesis about Hitler’s military incompetence was born after the war.

The scheme is as follows: campaign plan number 1 is offered by General X and General Y. Hitler accepts the plan for General X - the campaign is lost. In the post-war memoirs, General Y convincingly explains that if his plan were adopted, the campaign would definitely have been won. Gen. X in his memoirs modestly silent about the fact that the lost campaign was planned by him.

Take now the campaign plan number 2. Everything changes places when Hitler accepts the plan of General Y - the campaign is lost. Now in the post-war memoirs, General X convincingly explains that if his plan were to be adopted, the campaign would definitely have been won. General Y is modestly silent in his memoirs that the lost campaign was planned by him.

And what is the result? And he is like this: two campaigns were lost and two memoirs were born in each of which the authors point out that in both cases the stupid Hitler did not obey his generals. The fact that in two cases one of the generals was potentially right, and the other is a priori wrong, somehow slides out of the reader’s sight.

Concentrating all readers' attention on their discrepancies with Hitler, memoirists in stripes very skillfully ignore those facts and those of their opinions, which fully or partially coincided with Hitler's.

It is said that truth is born in disputes. That's just how to identify it when the mistake is wearing the same clothes. There is no doubt that the erroneous and wrong decisions that led to the catastrophe were made by Hitler on the basis of assumptions and calculations of the same field marshals. So talking about their outstanding talents and the lack of talent of Hitler would not be worth the beaten generals, all the more so after a careful examination of the events of that time, their own tragic mistakes and gross miscalculations become quite noticeable. They cannot be hidden behind the clumsy descriptions of the great successes and victories of 1941 – 1942. Moreover, in the final result, they led to a crushing defeat for the whole country.

Source:
Y. Veremeev "The Red Army at the Beginning of the Second World War", Eksmo Algorithm, 2010
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  1. Old Cat Basilio
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    17 August 2011 11: 07
    Not all provisions of the article can be agreed:
    1. With Hitler’s complete rejection, like any normal person’s rejection, it is worth noting that, unlike the Soviet leaders (from Stalin to Brezhnev), gunpowder (and OM) he sniffed in full - 4 full years in the trenches + 2 Iron Cross (Grades 1 and 2) + Breastplate for wounding speak for themselves.
    2.From September 1939 to May 1940, the Allies only designated the war? It is possible that on the lines of Maginot and Siegfried, he and the enemy played peer-glances, but at sea the scuffle went according to an enhanced program. During this period Kriegsmarine lost the "pocket" battleship "Graf von Spee", TC "Blucher", LC "Karlsruhe" and "Königsberg", the "pickpocket" "Lutzow" was seriously damaged. In turn, the Royal Navy sunk the aircraft carriers Glories and Korejges and the battleship Royal Oak. The battleships Nelson and Barham, TK Suffolk, LK Exeter, Belfast, Achilles and Ajax are seriously damaged. From the actions of the German submarines and raiders, 394 civilian ships were lost. Destroyers and other trifles on both sides should not be taken into account. Nevertheless, the British fleet fulfilled its main tasks - it blocked the German transport navigation in the Atlantic and did not allow its country to be strangled with a blockade. So what kind of "designation" of war can we talk about ?!
    1. svvaulsh
      +2
      17 August 2011 11: 45
      A simple corporal, even with a dozen iron crosses, and a general with a military education, these, as they say in Odessa, are two big differences. Rewards are given for courage, courage, and not for strategic planning of operations, which you can’t learn in the trenches, with all your heroism.
      1. Old Cat Basilio
        -1
        17 August 2011 15: 10
        Once again carefully read the article, dear svvaulsh, its keynote is the idea that after the war the surviving German generals began to blame Hitler for all their mistakes, leaving themselves, beloved, all the successes. But, the decision to start hostilities against another country is still made by the head of state, based on the current political situation and future prospects (not without reason Herr Clausewitz wrote that war is a continuation of politics by other means). Although Adolf, considering himself the greatest commander in the history of mankind, easily intervened in the development of all strategic plans of the German command. And in the 1st half of the second world war it brought success. It is enough to recall that France, the strongest military power in Western Europe, was defeated in 1,5 months, and the British barely took their ass out of Dunkirk. IMHO - Germany could not win the war by definition, the potential of the warring parties was too uneven.
        1. Superduck
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          17 August 2011 15: 35
          Well, here the mid president and the Fuhrer clicked. If Germany were to become allies, at least France or England (not to mention the United States), then they would have won the war like 2 fingers.
          1. Old Cat Basilio
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            17 August 2011 16: 29
            I cannot agree with you, dear SuperDuck. By definition, Adolf could not get France as an allies. Read his opus "Mein Kampf" (you can easily find it by searching the net), especially its second part. For all the post-war troubles of Germany, he blames France as the main creator of the Versailles agreements. And Britain would never have gone to an alliance with Hitler: to conclude such an alliance means to recognize the hegemony of Germany on the continent (he would not agree to less), and, consequently, to tie a hemp "tie" around its neck.
            1. Superduck
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              17 August 2011 16: 55
              Old Cat Basilio, of course, what you said is indisputable facts.
              Well, to get in the allies, this concept is ambiguous. This does not mean that you start kissing your gums. In fact, Germany gained France as an ally, though she had a hand with an idle military machine, the population of France was very loyal to the government of Vichy (Pétain) and De Gaulle considered them a fool. England also in the initial period of the battle and England (40-41 years) was also greatly encouraged by the prospective land confrontation with Germany, this is also known to all. However, to lure England with the idea of ​​destroying communism and Bolshevism i.e. against the USSR on the basis of a kind of alliance was quite within the power. And if the United States did not support England, and such sentiments were also strong, then perhaps England would go for it.
              1. Old Cat Basilio
                +1
                17 August 2011 18: 34
                God be with you, SuperDuck! France is Germany's ally ?! The country is split into two halves (one part is occupied, the other remains formally neutral). The French fleet (the second most powerful in Europe) was diverted to the ports of French North Africa, in July 1940 most of it was destroyed by the British. De Gaulle is sitting in London, whom Britain and its allies have recognized as the official representative of France and who receives moral and material support. In France itself, the Resistance movement is gaining momentum. Damn, good "ally"!
                Now about Britain. Even if a miracle happened and Hitler managed to conclude an alliance with N. Chamberlain's government, this paper still needs to be pushed through parliament. And there, in opposition, sits Adolf's "sworn" friend Sir W. Churchill (by the way, these are his words: "If Hitler had invaded hell, I would have entered into an alliance with the devil"), who is waiting for the slightest puncture from his opponent to come to power (which he did it a couple of weeks after the start of the war) => this option also does not roll.
                And in conclusion about the United States. In March 1941, the States, formally maintaining neutrality in the war, adopted a program of assistance to Britain and its allies in the framework of Lend-Lease. Moreover, in the summer of 1941, US Navy ships began to escort British convoys and launch attacks on German submarines (although Hitler strictly forbade his submariners and raider commanders to sink and seize American ships and ships). I want to remind you that Germany declared war on the United States 11.12.41/XNUMX/XNUMX. Something all this does not fit in with the policy of neutrality and the hypothetical possibility of a union! How do you think?
                1. Superduck
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                  17 August 2011 19: 09
                  In the United States and England, much was decided by public opinion. And in one and another country in the year 40-41 it was not as aggressive towards Hitler as they want to imagine now. People are not that they sympathize with him, they were afraid of him, and not in vain. However, of course, the actual clashes with the Germans and Japanese, as well as the repressions of Jews in Germany did not leave the United States a chance, however, until the middle of the 42nd so as not to lie for a year, only volunteers from the USA and Canada were in England, mostly pilots.
                  However, what I wrote about is only hypothetical possibilities, which in the aspect of history, as you know, do not deserve serious attention. History is facts, not "if only".
                  1. Old Cat Basilio
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                    17 August 2011 19: 31
                    Well, why, now the genre of alternative history is quite popular. Read, for example, the book by S. Anisimov "Option" Bis ", I think you will like it.
                    As for the volunteers from the USA - yes, there were from Canada - no, because at that time the country was the dominance of Britain and, therefore, declared war on Germany at the same time as the mother country. For this reason, regular Canadian units fought on the British side. By the way, it was they who made the famous raid on Dieppe in August 1942, while losing up to 60% of the personnel.
              2. +2
                28 June 2014 17: 11
                You contradict yourself. On the one hand, gaining the allies of England and France guaranteed Germany victory, and on the other, the actual alliance of conquered France (add the rest of Europe here) could not bring him the coveted laurel wreath. Or is it all about the intransigence of England?
                Getting an ally is just that
                means to start kissing your gums.
                Alliance is not only the industry of the occupied territory. This is the full-scale (ideally) participation of the army in its operations. This is access to all (also ideally) natural resources of not only an ally, but also its colonies (England and France at that time were the most important colonialists). This is the absence of the need (in any amount) to keep your troops on secondary theater of operations (such as the Western Front). This is a guarantee of the rear (and not the threat of war on two fronts). This is freedom of movement across the oceans within the framework of the responsibility of the waters of the allies. Need to continue?
                What did Hitler get from France? The loyalty of men in factories and women in bed? Did it make up for the loss of the entire fleet? Has this given operational scope in North Africa? This put under his banner 1,5 million French soldiers and officers?
        2. svvaulsh
          +1
          17 August 2011 15: 45
          Yes, I just stated a remark on the first point (a soldier sitting in a trench, awarded with medals and orders cannot assess the strategic situation at the front).
        3. +2
          28 June 2014 17: 01
          Quote: Old Cat Basilio
          But, the decision to start hostilities against another country is still made by the head of state, based on the political situation at the moment and prospects for the future
          That's it, and since this issue is purely political (and economic too), its solution in almost all modern states is under the jurisdiction of the highest legislative body. As for the specific plans of operations, everything here to a large extent depends on traditions: where is the sole command (which happens not so often), where is a collegiate discussion. But the final decision is always made by the leader - this is his right and duty. So the author is fundamentally right: what alternatives to the decisions were made, beaten strategists often do not even mention them in their memoirs.
      2. +2
        28 June 2014 16: 56
        Quote: svvaulsh
        Rewards are given for courage, courage, and not for strategic planning of operations, which you can’t learn in the trenches, with all your heroism.
        Absolutely correctly, during WWI, Hitler only learned to sit and put on a gas mask in the trenches. He, EMNIP, did not even meet with tanks, it seems that he also saw planes in the sky only. So the commander of him, to put it mildly, was not very. But he was an excellent politician, bastard.
    2. +2
      28 June 2014 16: 53
      Quote: Old Cat Basilio
      So what kind of "designation" of war can we talk about ?!
      Yes, everything is simple. Blocking Germany from the sea with the complete absence of military operations on land (even there was no bombing of the Ruru) clearly showed Hitler the direction in which you could get all the necessary resources to bet that Europe would not interfere. I think you can figure out where the West is and where the East is yourself.
  2. -1
    17 August 2011 15: 39
    Yes, the article does not lie. I read the memoirs of Manstein and Model, indeed they describe that they went to Hitler’s headquarters as from front to front! Particularly zealous was Manstein, who painted their conflict with Hitler about adopting the right plan for attacking France for an entire chapter. Allegedly, a fool, Hitler wanted to hit directly in the forehead through Holland, and he and the generals through the Ardennes. The Führer ordered the offensive more than once, but each time the offensive was frustrated, and only at the last moment the generals plan was accepted. The result is known. In general, the Fuhrer is blamed for all sins))))
    1. LESHA pancake
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      17 August 2011 19: 48
      when VERMAHT won victories, Hitler arranged everyone as a leader, after STALINGRAD all the failures of the German army began to be attributed to him, the usual practice of the vanquished.
      1. Old Cat Basilio
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        17 August 2011 20: 09
        And who made the fool Aloizych climb simultaneously to Stalingrad and the Caucasus? In a fight, they beat with a fist, and not with spread fingers. According to modern historians, if Stalin had struck the Rostov-on-Don region, Hitler would have lost his entire southern grouping of troops. So I would say "thank you", you fool, for getting off with only the loss of the 6th Army.
        1. 0
          17 August 2011 22: 52
          Rostov was then in the rear of the Wehrmacht, but such a plan was being considered. Shallows due to lack of manpower and resources (80000000 in occupation and fear for Moscow). Manstein’s blow was barely stopped, not before Rostov.
    2. +2
      28 June 2014 17: 16
      Quote: spirit
      I read the memoirs of Manstein and Model
      It is interesting when the Model could write memoirs if he shot himself on 21 on April 1945 in the forest near Duisburg (now the Model’s suicide site is in the city of Ratingen).

      As for Manstein, this "genius of maneuver" (as he called his drape) only did not call himself a genius. Obviously out of modesty.
  3. +1
    17 August 2011 18: 45
    victory has many fathers, defeat not one. that's all. it is very convenient for these gentlemen to blame everything on the possessed Führer — good, he is dead. By the way, and in the war with us another bastard prevented them - general frost. such a sublux, otherwise they would have fucked us in two.
  4. Old Cat Basilio
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    17 August 2011 18: 54
    But do not hell to count on a blitzkrieg in the war with Russia - you need to stock up on felt boots!
  5. mitrich
    +2
    17 August 2011 22: 12
    Hitler was a clever man, of course. But an adventurer of the highest mark, such a play in the casino, and not in war.
    I once read:
    Paulus was asked by journalists after the war: "Is it true that you lectured at the Soviet Academy of the General Staff?" To which he replied: "What could I tell them about? How to lose battles?"
    Historical fact.
    1. LESHA pancake
      +2
      17 August 2011 22: 20
      Napoleon was also an adventurer and his army was first-class however his genius and talent were still not enough to defeat RUSSIA.
      1. +4
        17 August 2011 23: 14
        Napoleon was a Genius. "The main thing is to start a battle, and then it will be seen" - attributed to Napoleon, with a 3-fold superiority in the direction of the main attack and planning to the smallest detail. But Suvorov and Kutuzov, in my opinion, is a step higher, because. did not have the resources of the entire country, but were content with what they gave. And they won.
        1. Svyatoslav
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          18 August 2011 00: 09
          Suvorov is the greatest commander of all time.
          1. Old Cat Basilio
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            18 August 2011 00: 47
            They say that Alexander Filippovich was no worse!
            1. Svyatoslav
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              18 August 2011 11: 11
              Alexander was still worse, since Suvorov did not lose a single battle.
              1. Old Cat Basilio
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                18 August 2011 14: 22
                So I’m talking about Alexander the Great (father - the Macedonian king Philip II), who, having gone from Greece to India, also did not lose a single battle! Estimate the distance.
    2. Old Cat Basilio
      +1
      17 August 2011 23: 50
      As for the game, mitrich, the Poles have a good saying: "If you didn't play, my friend, you wouldn't be left without trousers!"
  6. 0
    17 August 2011 22: 42
    Aloizich believed in his genius after the victory over France. After reflection, it was Manstein's plan that accepted, which then doused him with mud. Manstein at that time was a "corps commander" and, accepting his plan, Hitler spat on more eminent generals. After the war, the survivors rushed to write memoirs trying to whitewash themselves and thinking about a possible victory in the war. But pedantic Germans do not understand that war is not only charters and plans for deployment, but also inspiration, courage of the commander, if I may say so. Rommel beat the pedants of the British on the courage, regardless of their superiority in all respects. And in the USSR, they ran into a more inspired enemy and lost, while in the west they continued to beat the Anglo-Saxons with minimal forces.
    1. Old Cat Basilio
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      17 August 2011 23: 33
      What do you answer, dear chechywed? Probably, by the end of 1942, Uncle Rommel’s courage ended because he had to tick the desert Fox from El Alamein in Egypt to Benghazi in Libya. And von Kluge, with courage, probably got a little shitty - not allies got into the Falezsky cauldron in 1944.
      1. +2
        17 August 2011 23: 47
        Well then, tell me when the rest of the African corps and the balance of power capitulated. And having landed in 43 in Italy and in 44 in Normandy, did the Allies achieve much? Compare on a globe the successes of the USSR and the Anglo-Saxons.
        1. Old Cat Basilio
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          18 August 2011 00: 28
          Easy! The surrender of the Italo-German troops took place in March 1943 in Tunisia as a result of the consequences of Operation Torch (the landing of the allies in North Africa - November 1942). The balance of forces - the Anglo-Americans overwhelming (and even managed to win over the French formerly subordinate to the Vichy government). The landing of the allies in Sicily (Operation Husky) was the prologue to the liberation of Italy and its withdrawal from the war on Hitler's side. Landing in Normandy (Operation "Overdord") - liberation of all western Europe + invasion of Germany and meeting with Soviet troops on the Elbe in the Torgau region. Areas of hostilities: USSR - European and northern parts of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltic states, countries of eastern, southeastern, central Europe, approximately 1/3 of Germany, northeastern Asia. The Anglo-Americans - the waters of the Atlantic, Indian and Pacific oceans, western, northern, central and southern Europe, northern Africa, the Mediterranean Sea, almost all of southeast Asia. What?
          1. 0
            18 August 2011 01: 01
            We confine ourselves to Europe, since Germany is the main adversary. Where the front line in the East was on 6 on June 1944 and where it was not necessary to explain at the end of the war. Despite the fact that Germany kept 70% of the forces in the East. During this time, the Allies even Holland was not liberated with 100% air superiority and overwhelming superiority on earth. In Italy, the Germans capitulated after Berlin.
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    1. +3
      18 August 2011 00: 18
      When Rommel went out to Alamein, he had THREE !!!! tanka. There would be a fourth would take Cairo wink
      1. Old Cat Basilio
        0
        18 August 2011 00: 43
        Somewhere I heard this joke. In fact, the aspect ratio before the English offensive was the following: the British - 220 thousand people. at 1100 tanks; Italian-German troops - 115 thousand people. with 559 tanks and self-propelled guns.
    2. Old Cat Basilio
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      18 August 2011 00: 34
      I agree with you, mitrich, PR pure water! But that’s the whole point: they won their El Alamein on foreign territory, and we pulled Stalingrad on our own, and in our depths. It's not funny anymore!
  8. 0
    20 August 2011 15: 30
    Old cat Basiliomy applause.

    mitrich, in fact, the scale of it makes sense to look exactly on the globe. The United States and Britain fought all over the world, in fact, they were the second world war, our ancestors had enough of the Great Patriotic War above the roof.

    But their PR is, of course, cooler. Especially in terms of the fact that the entire 2MB was won in battles in the Pacific.

    I am not a particularly supporter of the alternative, and it’s not like a fool, but at least kill me, I can’t imagine the British infantry or the American marines not on some attole, but somewhere in the area of ​​Volgograd or Kursk. Forgive everyone.
    It is one thing shobla in 100 000 to snatch up an island that was plowed up by planes from 10 aircraft carriers and 20 heavy cruisers and battleships, and another thing is to knock out Germans from the settlement.

    I would not like to compare the Germans and the Japanese, my sympathies are on the side of the former (as far as possible), but the above was true: both the United States and England fought in foreign territories. Well, the maximum in their colonies. So do not particularly stand on ceremony.

    And now they feed the whole world with fairy tales about El Alamein, Okinawa and others. But they do it qualitatively.
    Do not boast about the bombed German cities like Dresden, in which there were no military factories or burned Tokyo, where the people burned no less than in Hiroshima.
    1. Old Cat Basilio
      -3
      20 August 2011 21: 11
      And on horseradish, dear Banshee, a 100 shoble dug to fight for some forgotten islands by God ?! You can post much easier. Remember the story with Truk Atoll. After sinking in the spring of 000, Japanese ships and ships standing there (by the way, the largest simultaneous sinking in history after the self-flooding of the German fleet in Scapa Flow in 1944) with the help of aircraft carrier and cutting all communication lines with the metropolis, the Yankees left the garrison of islands to end of the war, sunbathe on the beaches and eat palm bark. This, I understand, is the way of war!
      1. +2
        28 June 2014 17: 50
        Quote: Old Cat Basilio
        This, I understand, is the way of war!

        Well, I am glad that you find a reason to admire the "military genius" of the Americans against the background of the complete "ignorance" of Soviet generals. These are fools, they could not encircle half of the country and would leave the Germans to eat bark from birches.
  9. +3
    28 June 2014 17: 53
    I agree with the author in almost everything except
    But at the same time, memoirist generals somehow forget that Stalin was not a professional military man, and was no more competent in matters of warfare than Hitler, who at least sniffed gunpowder during World War I.
    Hitler saw the war exclusively from a dirty trench and the professional was very mediocre. And Stalin in Civil did not only receive the experience of state leadership in times of crisis, but also the leadership of the armies and the front, and in conditions of a new, maneuverable war using the rudiments of modern technical means. To whom and how this experience subsequently helped, history showed quite vividly.

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