On the revision of the history of the Second World War and the reanimation of reparation claims

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On the revision of the history of the Second World War and the reanimation of reparation claims


The basic principles and conditions for the payment of reparations by Germany and its allies were defined at the Yalta and Potsdam conferences of the 1945 year. For the USSR, the topic of German reparations was closed in the 1953 year, when Moscow completely abandoned the reparation deliveries of goods from the German Democratic Republic, switching to their payment at CMEA prices.

Due to the division of Germany and for a number of other reasons, even the general accounting of Germany’s coverage of its reparation obligations was not adjusted. Today, the German government does not have accurate information on reparations and operates with only a few expert assessments.

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Some issues of reparation claims and obligations were and continue to be resolved with Germany on a bilateral basis, on the sidelines. Thus, the agreement on reparations between the Federal Republic of Germany and Israel (1952), known as the Luxembourg Agreement, is probably the only case in storieswhen payments of reparations are provided to the state, which did not exist during the war that gave rise to reparations. During the period of the Luxembourg Agreement (1953-1965), punctually executed by Germany, deliveries on account of German reparations ranged from 12 to 20% of annual imports to Israel. Some experts believe that the creation of its economy, Israel is more obliged to the German reparations than to the US aid.

After the end of the Luxembourg Agreement in 1965, Germany continued to pay compensation to various foundations and organizations in Israel, which, in turn, were engaged in raising funds to individuals identified as victims of Nazism.

By 2008, Germany paid Israel in compensation for the victims of the Holocaust reparations totaling in excess of 60 billion euros.

You can read more about this in the book by American political scientist Norman Finkelstein, Holocaust Industry: Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering, published in 2000.

As N.Finkelstein notes, most of the funds did not reach the Jews who were victims of Nazism: the money was stolen by unscrupulous businessmen who turned the “Holocaust industry” into a gold mine. According to our estimates (taking into account changes in the purchasing power of the currency), the amount of reparations received by Israel from Germany for the period 1953-2008. approaching 50% of the total reparations received from Germany by the Soviet Union (1945-1953).

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One of the first topic of "unpaid reparations" raised Poland. After the Second World War, a considerable part of the territory of the former Third Reich passed to Poland. In 1945, millions of Germans were evicted from there. Displaced Germans and their descendants, appealing to the right of restitution, began to file suits in German courts demanding that they return their property (primarily real estate), which remained in their homeland. German courts ruled in favor of the plaintiffs. To represent the interests of such Germans, the Prussian Society for the Return of Property was created. By the beginning of 2000, the cumulative amounts of claims and court decisions on them were already measured in billions of dollars. The former German owners were especially inspired by the fact that Poland in the 1990-ies was one of the first in Eastern Europe to adopt restitution laws for the Poles. More than 12,5 billion dollars were spent on restitution from the Polish treasury, and tens more billions are planned to be spent, since the number of applications has already exceeded 170 thousand. It is important to emphasize that in Poland, the right of restitution applies only to Poles. The Germans do not have any rights under Polish law, they have to seek their rights through the courts.

Perhaps this circumstance prompted the Polish Sejm to raise in September 2004 of the year the question of German reparations, which, allegedly, were not received in full. The special resolution of the Polish Parliament said: "The Seimas declares that Poland has not received sufficient reparations and compensation for the enormous destruction, material and non-material losses caused by German aggression, occupation and genocide." Poland lost six million people during the war years; From 1939 to 1944, the Polish industry was almost completely destroyed, Warsaw and many other Polish cities were completely destroyed. The amounts of reparations received by Poland really could not cover all its damages. It is another matter how much, from the point of view of international law, attempts to reconsider the conditions of reparation payments to Germany after almost seventy years are justified. We are not even talking about the fact that the authors of some publications in Poland bring the reader to the conclusion: if the Poles are to demand additional compensation, it is not from Germany, but from ... Russia. Since, after the war, Poland did not receive direct reparations from Germany: the USSR received reparations from the territories under its control, and listed Poland with some of these reparations.

For the last ten years Poland has not returned to the question of German reparations. Perhaps because in 2006, German Chancellor A. Merkel publicly told Polish Prime Minister J. Kaczynski that the federal government "does not support the Germans' private claims to return their property in Poland." However, there is no guarantee that at some point Warsaw will not again raise the topic of reparations. And if today the Poles return to this issue, they, most likely, will make a complaint not on Germany, but on Russia.

Note that Poland is not alone in its reparation claims. In 2008, Italy filed a lawsuit with the International Court of Justice in The Hague, demanding that WWII be repaired from Germany. This lawsuit was dismissed, the Hague court defended Germany, saying that the Italian demand "violates the sovereignty of Germany."

Another country that revived the theme of reparations was Greece. Despite the unprecedented restructuring of its external debt in 2012, Greece is one of the leaders in terms of sovereign debt. At the end of the third quarter of 2013, the national debt of all countries of the European Union relative to their total gross domestic product was 86,8%. In the Eurozone, this figure was 92,7%. And in Greece it was 171,8%. The situation for Greece is desperate. Things reached the point that rating agencies and international organizations transferred Greece from the category of “economically developed” to the category of “developing” countries.

In search of ways out of the impasse, the Greek government prepared a demand for Germany to pay reparations to it following the Second World War. Greece does not deny that at one time received from Germany a certain amount of reparations. The first tranche of reparations was received at the end of the 40-x - the beginning of the 50-x. Twentieth century. These were mainly deliveries of industrial products (machine tools, equipment) totaling 105 million marks (approximately 25 million dollars), which in current prices is equivalent to 2 billion euros.

The second tranche of reparations occurred in the 60-ies. Twentieth century. In 1960, Greece and the Federal Republic of Germany concluded an agreement according to which 115 of millions of marks was sent to the Greek victims of Nazism. The payments were tied to the refusal of the Greeks from the additional claims of individual compensation.

The National Council for German War Reparations, headed in Greece by war veteran Manolis Glezos (Manolis Glezos), called in 2013, the amount of damage at half a trillion euros. In March 2014 of the year, Greek President Karolos Papoulias again demanded reparations from Germany for the damage caused to the country during the war. The Greek side claims for 108 billion euros in compensation for damage and 54 billion euros for loans issued by the Bank of Greece to Nazi Germany and not returned. The total amount of reparation claims of Greece is 162 billion euros. At the current price level, this is equivalent to 5 - 6 thousands of tons of gold. Stalin, we recall, in Yalta called the amount of reparations to the Soviet Union, equivalent to 10 thousand tons of gold.

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The fate of the Greek initiative in the world is closely watched. This is what Russian publicist Dmitry Verkhoturov writes about the possible demonstration effect of this initiative: “Germany’s claims for reparations are right to put forward, say, Cyprus, occupied by the Germans during the war, or Italy, which was also occupied by the Germans after the fall of the Mussolini regime and fighting took place on its territory. If France does not do well either, then it will have the opportunity to reclaim payments for occupation and destruction from Germany. And Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, Norway, Denmark? And the UK may demand to pay the consequences of the brutal bombardment. For example, it will be difficult for Spain to substantiate its claims to Germany, but something can be invented, for example, to “hang” on the Germans the damage from the civil war (1936 - 1939). If the development of events proceeds according to the “Greek version,” in the course of a few years only memories can remain from the European Union. ”

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There is reason to believe that in the run-up to the 70 anniversary of the victory over fascism, the revision of the history of the Second World War undertaken in the West, the denial of the decisive contribution of the USSR to the victory over Hitler Germany, the admission of the Soviet Union to the main initiators of the war will be crowned by the presentation of the Russian Federation as the successor of the USSR reparation claims: they say, the Red Army did not liberate Europe, but captured, enslaved and destroyed.

In order to prevent this, Russia will need to raise all documents of the Extraordinary State Commission for Damage that worked in the Soviet Union during the war (the full name is the Extraordinary State Commission to establish and investigate the atrocities of the German fascist invaders and their accomplices and the damage they cause to citizens, collective farms, public organizations and state enterprises and institutions of the USSR), materials of the Yalta and Potsdam conferences 1945 of the year, documents of the Council of Ministers of Foreign Affairs of the the USSR’s bilateral agreements on the Paris Peace Treaty of 1947 with the countries that fought on the German side. Reparation payments and deliveries of Germany at best covered only 3-4% of the damage inflicted on the Soviet Union, as determined by the Extraordinary State Commission.
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  1. master 84
    0
    7 November 2014 18: 04
    Germans must present for the past
    1. +11
      7 November 2014 18: 08
      EU chose shame and got economic and political war
    2. +5
      7 November 2014 19: 22
      Quote: master 84
      Germans must present for the past

      The general meaning of the article lies in a very small phrase
      the main initiators of the war will be crowned by the presentation of the Russian Federation as the successor of the USSR reparation claims: they say, the Red Army did not liberate Europe, but captured, enslaved and destroyed

      In view of the new circumstances that have opened up, they are trying or will try to hang on us part of the costs.
    3. +3
      7 November 2014 19: 44
      So Germany needs to roll out a clearly calculated and justified demand to pay compensation in favor of Russia for damage to our economy by the Wehrmacht during the Second World War, let Merkel scratch his head with his sanctions against us.
      1. +4
        7 November 2014 20: 39
        Quote: Thought Giant
        So Germany needs to roll out a clearly calculated and justified demand to pay compensation in favor of Russia for damage to our economy by the Wehrmacht during the Second World War, let Merkel scratch his head with his sanctions against us.

        strong move ...))
      2. 0
        8 November 2014 05: 15
        For the USSR, the topic of German reparations was closed in 1953, when Moscow completely refused reparation supplies of goods from the German Democratic Republic, switching to paying for them at CMEA prices. (from article)


        It is necessary for Russia again, in view of the liquidation of the subject (GDR), to which the "topic of German reparations" was closed, to return to demands for the FRG to pay reparations in favor of Russia.
        Enough to be kind for everyone who destroyed, killed, robbed the territory of Russia!
        It is necessary again to return to the topic of reparations from Germany in favor of Russia destroyed by them, in reimbursement of the 27 million human losses that our people suffered.
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  2. +9
    7 November 2014 18: 05
    Than to pay such reparations, it is easier and cheaper to take Berlin again.
    1. +2
      7 November 2014 18: 58
      One hundred pounds! To Berlin!!!
    2. +1
      7 November 2014 19: 30
      Quote: Barboskin
      Than to pay such reparations, it is easier and cheaper to take Berlin again.

      Why should psheks be on the sidelines? recourse
      1. jjj
        +3
        7 November 2014 21: 02
        The route to Berlin usually passes through Warsaw
  3. +2
    7 November 2014 18: 07
    Hans, chase a favor! am
  4. +7
    7 November 2014 18: 09
    ... Russia will need to raise all the documents of the Extraordinary State Commission on Damages that worked in the Soviet Union during the war (the full name is the Extraordinary State Commission on the identification and investigation of the atrocities of the Nazi invaders and their accomplices and the damage they caused to citizens, collective farms, public organizations and state enterprises and institutions of the USSR), materials of the Yalta and Potsdam conferences of 1945, documents of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the victorious countries, bilateral agreements of the USSR on the Paris Peace Treaty of 1947 with countries that fought on the side of Germany. Reparation payments and deliveries from Germany at best covered only 3-4% of the damage done to the Soviet Union, as the Extraordinary State Commission determined this damage.

    So and only so! To cover at least half of the damage caused to us. So that these overgrown merkels know their place in the outskirts of history and do not dare to hiss at us.
  5. GRF
    0
    7 November 2014 18: 11
    Capitalism is when they live at the expense of others ...
    We are making progress, but I don’t even know ... Is this happy
    1. +2
      7 November 2014 18: 15
      Quote: GRF
      Heh heh ... Civilized vultures.
      In turn ... Germany has one ...

      But Russia has one ... (not censored).
  6. +2
    7 November 2014 18: 12
    So and only so! To cover at least half of the damage caused to us. So that these overgrown merkels know their place in the outskirts of history and do not dare to hiss at us.
  7. +6
    7 November 2014 18: 14
    "Russians always come for their money", maybe it's time ??? Then all this confusion with sanctions is not worth the paper on which they were written
    1. GRF
      +3
      7 November 2014 18: 42
      When the Russians cease to give their money ... Well ... so that later they can go nowhere for them ...
  8. +2
    7 November 2014 18: 14
    Auto RU:
    1. And to recover reparations from Mongolia - weakly?
    And, most importantly, to create at the expense of taxpayers an economic institution of reparation payments. Near-economic scientists will file the dough.
    1. +1
      7 November 2014 18: 22
      What are the reparations from Mongolia? belay Mongolia in World War II on the side of the USSR was wink
      1. GUS
        +2
        7 November 2014 18: 26
        And theirs Batu Kiev took and burned.
        1. 0
          7 November 2014 19: 50
          Quote: GUS
          And theirs Batu Kiev took and burned.

          Look for a fireman in Samarkand. laughing
    2. +8
      7 November 2014 18: 25
      Quote: corn
      Auto RU:
      1. And to recover reparations from Mongolia - weakly?
      And, most importantly, to create at the expense of taxpayers an economic institution of reparation payments. Near-economic scientists will file the dough.

      Since Mongolia helped in the Second World War of the USSR, no one else helped and, unlike Lend-Lease, absolutely free of charge, from the heart.
      In addition, as it turns out, present-day Mongolia with the empire of Genghis Khan is connected practically only by the word "Mongols".
      So, do not get Mongolia dirty.
      1. +2
        7 November 2014 21: 09
        Penzyac
        1. From the soul or not from the soul - for me it does not play a big role. The ruble from the soul and a million not from the soul ??? The ruble will not save, and a million can save.
        2. About "Lend-Lease" - I do not want to prove to you its importance and your ignorance of the terms of delivery and payment.
        You are probably from a cohort of political workers-slogan critics, if you do not understand that not only the Mongols went to Russia, there are many who can remember a lot, but the train has already left and the spoon is way to dinner.
  9. hard
    +8
    7 November 2014 18: 15
    And again, without Poland, well, nothing at all. Pot calls the kettle black. Let the apples be distilled for a worm and calm down. The superpower is one.
    1. +2
      7 November 2014 19: 30
      After the Second World War, quite a large part of the territory of the former Third Reich ceded to Poland.

      Interestingly, the Poles know by the efforts of the army of which state they were so lucky with the territories?
  10. +12
    7 November 2014 18: 15
    The topic of the "Holocaust" is just infuriating. What, the Soviet people, including the same Jews, died less? Thanks to the nation's cunning intelligence, the Germans are still injecting money.
    1. +5
      7 November 2014 18: 34
      Quote: Neighbor
      The topic of the "Holocaust" is just infuriating. What, the Soviet people, including the same Jews, died less? Thanks to the nation's cunning intelligence, the Germans are still injecting money.

      The great Russian people are distinguished by generosity and self-reliance. Begging, blackmail and, in general, grudge are alien to us a priori! ...
      1. +1
        7 November 2014 22: 10
        Quote: PENZYAC
        Quote: Neighbor
        The topic of the "Holocaust" is just infuriating. What, the Soviet people, including the same Jews, died less? Thanks to the nation's cunning intelligence, the Germans are still injecting money.

        The great Russian people are distinguished by generosity and self-reliance. Begging, blackmail and, in general, grudge are alien to us a priori! ...


        Moreover, the question of the salvation of German Jews was not raised. Only the best and necessary for the future state were selected. At the XII Zionist Congress in 1937, Haim Weizmann would say:

        Six million European Jews are ready to emigrate. I ask: Can you move six million to Palestine? I answer: No /.../ I want to save young people from misfortune /.../ (for Palestine). The old ones will remain. They will meet their fate here, or they will not. They are dust, from an economic and moral point of view - only dust in this cruel world. /.../ Only the young must survive. They must accept this.
        Numerous and well-armed Zionist organizations (which were discovered, for example, by the Red Army in eastern Poland) during the entire war did not fire a single shot at the German soldiers and police, did not fire a single leaflet against them (the riot in the Warsaw ghetto was only a protective measure to clean up the Germans ghetto from the bandits and carried out by disparate Jewish groups - mainly criminal smuggling.
        “If we (the Zionists) saw our main task in saving the maximum number of Jews,” said one of the prominent Zionists, Eliezar Livne, “then we would have to work with the partisans. Partisan bases were in Poland, Lithuania, in the Nazi-occupied areas of Russia, in Yugoslavia, and later in Slovakia. If our main goal was to prevent the elimination of (Jews), and if we came into contact with partisan bases, we would save many. ”
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    2. +5
      7 November 2014 20: 07
      Quote: Neighbor
      The topic of the "Holocaust" is just infuriating. What, the Soviet people, including the same Jews, died less? Thanks to the nation's cunning intelligence, the Germans are still injecting money.

      By the way, why Poland does not pay for the Holocaust? Israeli and Zionist Holocaust researchers claim to be the main fighter against falsifications associated with this universal tragedy. At the same time, Zionist historians are no less falsifiers of the Holocaust than their Western counterparts. The fact is that the truth about the Holocaust can expose Zionism and the Jewish oligarchy in a very disadvantageous light for them.

      For example, Zionist scholars diligently hush up the fact that mostly the poor Jews were killed, while their wealthy brothers not only successfully bought off the Nazis, but also successfully made a gesheft with them.
  11. +5
    7 November 2014 18: 18
    ... they say, the Red Army did not liberate Europe, but captured, enslaved and destroyed.
    -a before that, she lured the Nazis to Moscow, so that no one would know about the bloody plans for Europe fool
    1. +2
      7 November 2014 19: 20
      Quote: klavyr
      ... they say, the Red Army did not liberate Europe, but captured, enslaved and destroyed.
      -a before that, she lured the Nazis to Moscow, so that no one would know about the bloody plans for Europe fool

      And as Zadornov once said, "The evil red army attacked peaceful Germans ... at Stalingrad"
  12. +5
    7 November 2014 18: 27
    Amber room, paintings, valuables and b-la, let 27 million lives be returned first !!!!!!
    And then pees about reparations !!
  13. 0
    7 November 2014 18: 31
    Given the precedent of the Hague court’s decision on Yukos’s lawsuit, any meanness — including decisions against Russia — can be expected from the Geyrope courts, which means that it must pay reparations to everyone instead of Germany.
    1. +3
      7 November 2014 18: 37
      Quote: OldWiser
      Given the precedent of the Hague court’s decision on Yukos’s lawsuit, any meanness — including decisions against Russia — can be expected from the Geyrope courts, which means that it must pay reparations to everyone instead of Germany.

      And in response we will present the decision of the Basmanny Court to them (if there is no such decision yet, then it will be) ...
  14. Denis fj
    +1
    7 November 2014 18: 32
    Another country that revived the theme of reparations was Greece.
    The fate of the Greek initiative in the world is closely monitored.
    If France doesn’t do well, either,
    then she will have the opportunity to claim payments from Germany.
    And Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, Norway, Denmark?
    And the UK may demand.
    It will be difficult for Spain to substantiate its claims against Germany.
    If the course of events follows the “Greek version”,
    then in a matter of years only memories may remain from the European Union. ”

    Will we see the battle of crocodiles, tigers, jackals and monkeys in the valley from the mountain?

    There is reason to believe that in the run-up to the 70 anniversary of the victory over fascism, the revision of the history of the Second World War undertaken in the West, the denial of the decisive contribution of the USSR to the victory over Hitler Germany, the admission of the Soviet Union to the main initiators of the war will be crowned by the presentation of the Russian Federation as the successor of the USSR reparation claims: they say, the Red Army did not liberate Europe, but captured, enslaved and destroyed.
  15. +2
    7 November 2014 18: 50
    In order to prevent this, Russia will need to raise all the documents of the Extraordinary State Commission on Damage that worked in the Soviet Union during the war
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    raise the question of royal gold intervention of the antenna and poland
  16. 0
    7 November 2014 19: 04
    Quote: PENZYAC
    Quote: Neighbor
    The topic of the "Holocaust" is just infuriating. What, the Soviet people, including the same Jews, died less? Thanks to the nation's cunning intelligence, the Germans are still injecting money.

    The great Russian people are distinguished by generosity and self-reliance. Begging, blackmail and, in general, grudge are alien to us a priori! ...

    Tea is not gypsies.
  17. Ivanhoe
    +4
    7 November 2014 19: 05
    why Greece does not require reparations from Turkey for centuries-old slavery ??? and England for its capture by France ??? !!! complete nonsense!!! and here is the fact that Russia, when withdrawing troops from Germany, left property there for several tens of billions of dollars and received 6 billion of credit rightly ??? !!! all know this and do not even deny !!!
  18. Ivanhoe
    0
    7 November 2014 19: 07
    sorry I'm recovering 10-13 centuries about England and France
  19. pinecone
    +2
    7 November 2014 19: 25
    Here is what the Russian publicist Dmitry Verkhoturov writes about the possible demonstration effect of this initiative: "Demands for reparations for Germany have the right to put forward, say, Cyprus, occupied by the Germans during the war years ...".

    The journalist Verkhoturov should have known that Cyprus was not occupied by the Germans, and indeed such a state until 1960. did not exist at all. During World War II, the island continued to remain British colonial possession.
  20. 0
    7 November 2014 20: 48
    And we will give the Poles the lands of Galicia
  21. +1
    7 November 2014 21: 16
    children in the basement beat the rabbi, beat the pipe to answer the question - what is this holiday such a Holocaust
  22. 0
    7 November 2014 23: 27
    <<< In 2008, Italy filed a lawsuit with the International Court of Justice in The Hague, demanding to recover reparations from Germany during the Second World War. This claim was dismissed, the Hague court defended Germany, >>>
    Russia should prepare for the next "raid" of the West! In light of the unfolding campaign to revise the results of World War II, claims against Russia, as the successor of the USSR, for the payment of reparations are quite likely, and the Hague Court, already famous for its objectivity in Yugoslavia, is unlikely to be impartial in its decision in relation to it! In general, all these international organizations, judicial, human rights, supposedly acting in the interests of not the Western, but the world community are not biased and solely on the basis of international law, in practice "for some reason" act in the interests of the United States and its allies!
  23. 0
    8 November 2014 03: 20
    In short, the money in our pockets ran out and went to get money from others, recalling old debts and grievances. To be honest, it's time for Germany to send the elect of God. Far and long. But it’s time for Russia to set a budget for everything that it has restored and built around the world.