The Northern Fleet will receive the latest transport floating dock "Sviyaga"

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The representative of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the Navy, captain 1st rank Igor Dygalo said that “Zelenodolsk plant named after A.M. Gorky "plans to launch the latest transport floating dock" Sviyaga "for the North fleet.



Representatives of ministries and departments of the Republic of Tatarstan, the Ak Bars Holding Company, the authorities of the Zelenodolsk municipal district, contractors and project organizations will arrive at the solemn ceremony of the descent.

“According to the plans of the Main Command of the Navy, the mission of the Sviyagi will be the repair and maintenance of the ships of the Northern Fleet. The floating dock will provide for the transportation of ships and vessels along inland waterways from north to south, as well as docking inspections of ships and repairs by means of ship repair facilities, ”Dygalo says. TASS.

This special-purpose vessel was designed by the specialists of St. Petersburg-based Almazb Almaz OJSC. It began to build in November 2012 year. This is the first floating dock for the Russian Navy over the past 12 years.

The length of the 22570 transport floating dock of the project is 134 meters, the width is 14 meters, the draft is 2.67 meters, and its capacity is 3300 tons.
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  1. +31
    6 November 2014 10: 54
    Surprisingly reminds a fluorescent lamp. smile
    1. +4
      6 November 2014 11: 04
      It looks impressive and modern!
      1. +9
        6 November 2014 11: 10
        ShturmKGB
        It looks impressive and modern!

        The dock itself - yes, the picture - "Look, I've mastered Photoshop!"
        1. +3
          6 November 2014 11: 22
          Yes, and they have something wrong with the numbers. 3300 tons is very small.
          1. +4
            6 November 2014 11: 28
            This is a transport dock and it is a lightweight class.
            1. -5
              6 November 2014 12: 12
              Quote: donavi49
              This is a transport dock and it is a lightweight class.

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              And then what for do we need the Mistral? He's also a dock ship ... And to this garbage it is enough to attach a stem and place a weapon ... I mean that we ourselves can compose and build an analogue of the Mistral ...
              1. +1
                6 November 2014 12: 27
                And the disadvantages were set by those who apparently had nothing to say and who had not been taught anything at the time ...
                I’m just as a technologist discussing how to design a frame for this vessel so that it is light and rigid and gives the board a good mirror, how to make the underwater part of the vessel so that it has sufficient seaworthiness according to the statement of work (when there are so many points), which should be the power plant, so that it is economical and dragging this box ...
                1. +3
                  6 November 2014 13: 17
                  He has minimal requirements for excitement, because he will carry along the channels (Volga-Balt) and further along the water areas of the plants.

                  A tugboat is hauling him, not he.
                  1. +1
                    6 November 2014 13: 26
                    Quote: donavi49
                    A tugboat is hauling him, not he.

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                    I understood ... I wrote in the second comment what I was thinking about ... Or they mold a minus without reading, especially "dashing maremans" ...
                  2. 0
                    6 November 2014 14: 09
                    river sea or volga-don
              2. +3
                6 November 2014 13: 07
                Quote: Altona
                And then what for do we need the Mistral? He's also a dock ship ... And to this garbage it is enough to attach a stem and place a weapon ... I mean that we ourselves can compose and build an analogue of the Mistral ...

                Uh-huh ... put the engines, cut the docking chamber to accommodate the power plant, electronics, combat posts, crew cabins, landing troops and decks for equipment (plus tanks for fuel and ammunition storage), arrange all this so that the equipment would have travel to the dock , the shafts of the propellers would not go through the dock (if there were azipods, it would be even better: the entire set would need to be altered at the points of their attachment), the cabins would not be inside the tanks, and the ammunition cellar would not be heated from the power plant or auxiliary. boiler. And then attach the hangar and flight deck on top. And watch the picture "Swedish battleship" Vaza "- the first and last exit". smile

                In the USSR already tried little blood - a mighty blow make a DVKD from a ro-ro serial ship. Complete garbage turned out.
                1. +1
                  6 November 2014 13: 13
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Uh-huh ... put the engines, cut the docking chamber to accommodate the power plant, electronics, combat posts, crew cabins, landing troops and decks for equipment (plus tanks for fuel and ammunition storage), arrange all this so that the equipment would have travel to the dock , the cabins would not be inside the tanks, and the ammunition cellar would not be heated by the power plant or auxiliary. boiler. And then attach the hangar and flight deck on top. And watch the picture "The Swedish battleship Vasa - the first and last exit."

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                  Why not? There are other layout options ... Form a dock between two buildings, and put together everything you need in the buildings ... Or then let's not worry at all, but buy everything for dollars that we no longer have ... The point is that we can already cook large-format boxes, we roll sheets for large-format boards, as the abundance of welding weakens the structure ... But neigh and jumble any structure and I can ...
                  1. 0
                    6 November 2014 13: 26
                    Quote: Altona
                    Why not? There are other layout options ... Form a dock between two buildings, and put together everything you need in the buildings ..

                    That is, we are doing a project from scratch. Inventing once again new and unparalleled in the world. But in fact - a bicycle. Because DVKD-UDC all other countries have been building for 45 years.
                    Quote: Altona
                    .Or then let’s not suffer at all, but buy everything for dollars, which we no longer have ...

                    For some reason, the Bolsheviks were not ashamed to buy projects of almost all large ships abroad, and then creatively process them. And to complete the lead ships with imported systems. And the tower leader was so ordered from the Nazis as a whole - for familiarization and development of his on the base.
                    If the condition for the transfer of documentation for serial and spent DVKD is the construction of the first two ships in France, then this is a small fee for turning virtual pieces of paper into real iron. Moreover, this is iron, on which the marines can finally practice in practice what the same Yankees have been doing since the 50s of the last century.

                    Do you want to order the domestic industry? "Gren" will help you. Since the times of the Empire, the main advantage of foreign orders was that after the signing of the contract, the playful pens of MTK could no longer make changes to the project with such freedom as they did with domestic projects.
                    1. +1
                      6 November 2014 13: 30
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      For some reason, the Bolsheviks were not ashamed to buy projects of almost all large ships abroad, and then creatively process them. And to complete the lead ships with imported systems. And the tower leader was so ordered from the Nazis as a whole - for familiarization and development of their own on the basis.
                      If the condition for the transfer of documentation for a serial and used DVD is the construction of the first two ships in France, then this is a small price to pay for converting virtual pieces of paper (which at any moment can disappear or "freeze" by directive decision) into real hardware. Moreover, this is the iron on which the Marines will finally be able to practice in practice what the same Yankees have been doing since the 50s of the last century.

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                      oh, okay, at least you "enlightened", otherwise you don't know them at all ... And now we have so many dollars that pants on the thighs are torn ... And Putin, in your opinion, is the last stupid person who guessed technological equipment buy, and "virtual drawings" are now available from any server, which the Chinese are fine-tuning without paying anyone ...
                      1. 0
                        6 November 2014 14: 33
                        Quote: Altona
                        And now we have so many dollars that already pants on thighs are torn ...

                        When the Mistral was ordered, there was money.
                        And now we need ships, not money for them. You can't go out to sea on dollars. Look, the Navy is already looking closely at the Sevmorput. And when the large landing craft of the "Syrian Express", which have been running in circles for 2 years with a period of about a month, begin to pour in, then it will be absolutely bad.
                        Quote: Altona
                        and "virtual drawings" are now available from any server, which the Chinese do well without paying anyone ...

                        On servers you can find anti-gravitator blueprints. And who will be responsible for these drawings if something goes wrong? Collective Chinese Anonymous? Or "SuperGoldenKB Hao and Xiao", which will suddenly disappear by the time the first jambs appear?
                    2. 0
                      6 November 2014 13: 32
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      Do you want to order the domestic industry? "Gren" will help you. Since the times of the Empire, the main advantage of foreign orders was that after the signing of the contract, the playful pens of MTK could no longer make changes to the project with such freedom as they did with domestic projects.

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                      Playful hands at the stage of the contract hack a kickback from a "foreign partner" to a personal offshore company since the time of the Empire ... You see, you don't know about this ...
                      1. 0
                        6 November 2014 14: 37
                        Quote: Altona
                        Playful hands at the stage of the contract hack a kickback from a "foreign partner" to a personal offshore company since the time of the Empire ... You see, you don't know about this ...

                        ... at the same time, the fleet will receive a new boat at a price lower than at the domestic plant, without construction overload, and even faster than from the domestic shipyard. Again - known since the time of the Empire.
                      2. +1
                        6 November 2014 15: 08
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        ... at the same time, the fleet will receive a new boat at a price lower than at the domestic plant, without construction overload, and even faster than from the domestic shipyard. Again - known since the time of the Empire.

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                        So disperse domestic factories, herali here to argue with me? Go and buy at the western factory, which has been standing since the 90s, since all the ships have been sculpting in China for a long time ... And with regards to the PRICE, the PRICE is made up of COST AND PROFIT ... And there are many points on which you can save ... And do not forget about the availability of long cheap loans and the cost of electricity ... All the same, welding ...
                        And about the price, it’s far from the fact that it’s cheaper ... It has been known since the time of the Empire, how much ammunition cost to the tsar-priest and shells ... Yes, and footcloths with utilities were also in price ....
                      3. +1
                        6 November 2014 16: 17
                        Quote: Altona
                        So disperse domestic factories, herali here to argue with me? Go and swim at the western factory, which has been standing since the 90s, since all the ships have long been sculpted in China ...

                        Excuse me, I do not bother you to argue with the voices in your head? smile

                        Where did it say to me that domestic factories should be dispersed? Ordering ships abroad with all the documentation will allow domestic factories to jump through several stages, having the opportunity to build their designs not from pictures from the exhibition and advertising performance characteristics, but from a real-life ship with all its subtle aspects of construction and operation. How the "Borodintsev" and "Bayanichs" were built in the Empire. How project 26bis was designed and built in the USSR and further project 68.
                        Moreover, half of the Mistrals were built here.
                      4. 0
                        6 November 2014 19: 24
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        Where did it say to me that domestic factories should be dispersed? Ordering ships abroad with all the documentation will allow domestic factories to jump through several stages, having the opportunity to build their designs not from pictures from the exhibition and advertising performance characteristics, but from a real-life ship with all its subtle aspects of construction and operation. How the "Borodintsev" and "Bayanichs" were built in the Empire. How project 26bis was designed and built in the USSR and further project 68.
                        Moreover, half of the Mistrals were built here.

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                        What do you want from me then? You yourself agreed with me, although you argued before diarrhea ... If Mistral’s ass was cooked with us, and it’s rather complicated, because you need to notice two half-hulls in tight contract tolerances and make that fucking dock itself ... You’d even open Mistral’s layout was looked at as an engineer and technologist, and not as a connoisseur who memorized miscarriages of various design schools, classified and included in reference books ...
                      5. 0
                        6 November 2014 19: 40
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        Excuse me, I do not bother you to argue with the voices in your head?

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                        It is you who are arguing with your hair, because speaking about the Soviet Union, you somehow forget about the Ukrainian Nikolaev, who spanked large-format surface ships in large batches, popularly in bundles ... And the point is not in magical "Western" knowledge and our homely ignorance, and in the loss of design and financial opportunities for the development of domestic shipbuilding, and production with the loss of the Nikolaev shipyards ... People will not work for free, we already have half of the engineers working for 12-15 thousand and still lose their jobs, but we also need to improve their qualifications how to do something, because the requirements are growing ... And if they worked normally for 23 years, and they did not build a "dash bazaar", then they would have mastered Mistraluga entirely ...
                    3. 0
                      6 November 2014 14: 27
                      Quote: Alexey RA
                      That is, we are doing a project from scratch. We invent once again a new and unparalleled in the world

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                      They somehow managed to release the Tu-144 a little earlier than the Concorde, make the Buran more than the Shuttle, and teach it to fly unmanned in 256 kilobytes of memory ... And if specialists were taken to exhibitions, not "sales managers" , then at the exit in a notebook the engineer would have long ago noted the dimensions of the product, the thickness of the sections, the characteristics of the metal, the welding places, the "technological" places, the layout solutions, the weight distribution of the product ... Well, people like you will certainly buy everything, and the most advanced and expensive ...
                      1. -1
                        6 November 2014 14: 52
                        Quote: Altona
                        Tu-144 somehow managed to release a little earlier than "Concorde", "Buran" to make more "Shuttle" and to teach it to fly unmanned in 256 kilobytes of memory ..

                        It was in single powerful Soviet Union.
                        By the way, about the Tu-144 and Concord - you remember it well. I remember the developers and manufacturers of these two machines have collaborated already since 1965.
                      2. 0
                        6 November 2014 15: 03
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        By the way, about the Tu-144 and Concord - you remember it well. I remember the developers and manufacturers of these two machines have collaborated already since 1965.

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                        And what? We collaborated with both Robert Bosch and Karl Zeiss before the war ... So before the war, Robert Bosch began to rip off supplies and supply un-drilled injectors ... And Karl Zeiss made us periscopes for submarines, and also of "amazing" quality before the war .. . Can still remind of something? Or is there no phone better than an iPhone?
                      3. 0
                        6 November 2014 16: 08
                        Quote: Altona
                        And what? We collaborated with both Robert Bosch and Karl Zeiss before the war ... So before the war, Robert Bosch began to rip off supplies and supply un-drilled nozzles ... And Karl Zeiss made us periscopes for submarines, and also of "amazing" quality before the war .. ...

                        That's right - we cooperated. And we collaborated with Sperry. And we bought a whole batch of tanks from Vickers with all the documentation - in the presence of our own serial MS.
                        And you could just send specialists to exhibitions - at the exit, the engineer would have noted the dimensions of the product, the thickness of the sections, the characteristics of the metal, the welding places, the "technological" places, the layout solutions, the weight distribution of the product ...
                      4. 0
                        6 November 2014 19: 26
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        That's right - we cooperated. And we collaborated with Sperry. And we bought a whole batch of tanks from Vickers with all the documentation - in the presence of our own serial MS.

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                        The point is that they still developed their own concept ... Even though there were T-26 and BT-7 as "cubs" of Christie's wedges ...
                2. 0
                  6 November 2014 13: 15
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  In the USSR they already tried with little blood - with a mighty blow, to make a DVKD from a ro-ro serial ship. Complete garbage turned out.

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                  If the construct is ahead of technological capabilities, then no ingenious plan will work ...
                  Are you a great craftsman by the way? I almost described the construction of Mistral to you, there are two half-hulls ... The rest is a tier-deck construction ...
              3. 0
                6 November 2014 13: 21
                This is fundamentally different, that is, in general, like a scooter and a jeep.

                Mistral is a UDC, with the base of a baht of the marine corps, unlimited seaworthiness, a cycle of 200 days in a campaign for a year, helicopters, various reserves, etc. In it, the Doc takes about 15%.

                Sviyaga is a transport dock that is needed in order to drag various products along the Volgobalt and Belomorkanal that will not pass through the sediment in any other way. It will also be used for repair work, factory work and work with various devices of the GUGI, which ordered it. But the general concept is canal transportation.
                1. 0
                  6 November 2014 13: 36
                  Quote: donavi49
                  This is fundamentally different, that is, in general, like a scooter and a jeep.

                  Mistral is a UDC, with the base of a baht of the marine corps, unlimited seaworthiness, a cycle of 200 days in a campaign for a year, helicopters, various reserves, etc. In it, the Doc takes about 15%.

                  Sviyaga is a transport dock that is needed in order to drag various products along the Volgobalt and Belomorkanal that will not pass through the sediment in any other way. It will also be used for repair work, factory work and work with various devices of the GUGI, which ordered it. But the general concept is canal transportation.

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                  I understand ... You don’t need to devote me to "exploitation", for a technologist it is ideal to weld a box, for a designer - to design a case with a light frame ... Or do you think that one designer designs everything? There are "corpusmen", there are "minders", there are "gunsmiths" and so on ...
                2. 0
                  6 November 2014 13: 44
                  Quote: donavi49
                  This is fundamentally different, that is, in general, like a scooter and a jeep.

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                  I mean, a scooter and a jeep? All frame structures are very similar in many respects ... A van, a modular building, a ship's hull ... They all have similar requirements for loads and manufacturing, with their own nuances of course ... For a van there are requirements for weight, transportability and placement on the chassis, environmental influences and vibrations ... To a modular building - wind, snow, rain and other influences ... To a ship, the same external environment ... And all this should be quite light and technological ...
          2. +1
            6 November 2014 11: 30
            Quote: sufix
            3300 tons is very small.

            Come on. This is almost "Admiral Grigorovich", and "Guarding" is generally easy.
            1. +1
              6 November 2014 11: 39
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Yes, and they have something wrong with the numbers. 3300 tons is very small.

              You do not confuse with displacement?
              1. +1
                6 November 2014 11: 46
                Quote: Hairy Siberian
                You do not confuse with displacement?

                And how much do you think the ship weighs? As much as displaces water. Is not it so? If he weighed more, he would lie at the bottom.
                1. 0
                  6 November 2014 11: 53
                  Quote: Vladimirets
                  And how much do you think the ship weighs? As much as displaces water. Is not it so?

                  There are different definitions of displacement. But, what would be clear in this case:
                  Displacement is the dock weight of the vessel + variable weights (supply, ballast, people, etc.) + cargo weight (load capacity).
                  That is, lifting capacity is only one of the components of displacement.
                  1. 0
                    6 November 2014 12: 04
                    Quote: Hairy Siberian
                    There are different definitions of displacement.

                    Naturally.
                    Quote: Hairy Siberian
                    Displacement is the dock weight of the vessel + variable weights (supply, ballast, people, etc.) + cargo weight (load capacity).

                    This is a full displacement.
                    Quote: Hairy Siberian
                    That is, lifting capacity is only one of the components of displacement.

                    So what? Full displacement of "Guarding" 2220t. But you don't think that in this dock he will be transported with all the crew, water, fuel and weapons?
                    1. +1
                      6 November 2014 12: 19
                      Quote: Vladimirets
                      So what? Full displacement of "Guarding" 2220t. But you don't think that in this dock he will be transported with all the crew, water, fuel and weapons?

                      No, I do not think so.
                      My question: "Do not you confuse it with displacement" was addressed sufix-with a comment: "3300 tons is very little." Because it is not small, but enough for its class.
                      1. +2
                        6 November 2014 12: 21
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian
                        My question: "Do not you confuse it with the displacement" was addressed to sufix with a comment: "3300 tons is very little".

                        Ahhh, otherwise the link was to my comment:
                        Quote: Hairy Siberian
                        Quote: Vladimirets
                        Yes, and they have something wrong with the numbers. 3300 tons is very small.
                        You do not confuse with displacement?

                        And they argued about nothing. smile hi drinks
                      2. +1
                        6 November 2014 12: 29
                        Quote: Vladimirets
                        Ahhh, otherwise the link was to my comment:

                        I don’t know why it’s like that. To avoid getting in the middle of the dialogue, I press “ANSWER” the last comment, and “QUOTE” on the one I need, and the confusion turns out.
                        Quote: Vladimirets
                        And they argued about nothing.

                        In in! hi drinks
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    2. +1
      6 November 2014 13: 07
      This is a good copy of our shipbuilders, a very necessary and timely gift for northerners shipbuilders and ship repairers.
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  2. +6
    6 November 2014 10: 56
    We are waiting for more different ships to our fleet!
  3. +2
    6 November 2014 10: 57
    The auxiliary fleet comes to life! Interestingly, a self-propelled dock or a tug must be pulled?
    1. +2
      6 November 2014 12: 23
      They are pulled by tugs, but as a rule he is standing at the same shipyard near the mooring wall.
      1. 0
        6 November 2014 12: 42
        Quote: kote119
        They are pulled by tugs, but as a rule he is standing at the same shipyard near the mooring wall.

        Probably yes. But for transportation on internal routes (most likely rivers) only with axle boxes. The necessary piece, in some cases cheaper and easier to slip + is necessary for upgrades, repairs involving nodes below the waterline - screws, steering wheels, dampers, etc. Plus it can raise some submarines. For the north, a very necessary ship.
  4. +6
    6 November 2014 10: 57
    Either the frigate is lowered into the water, the tug is laid, now the floating dock is lowered. Well done shipbuilders ..
  5. +3
    6 November 2014 10: 58
    Afiget, almost every day news about the launching of a new ship. This is certainly all good, but it bothers - where do the engines get it? How is import substitution going in this direction? Who is in the know?
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 11: 04
      According to import substitution, hr .. I think that at work we simply rewrote documents and reports that they say everything is ours, otherwise everything would have risen !!! (try to tear the state order)
      1. 0
        6 November 2014 15: 24
        Well, what do you stick in if you don’t want to sell? After all, they have a black hole in their heads!
  6. +3
    6 November 2014 10: 59
    Without such "lamps" the combat effectiveness of the fleet is questionable. So very good.
  7. 0
    6 November 2014 11: 00
    Finally, I am proud of our GREAT country!
  8. +21
    6 November 2014 11: 01
    Quote: Private stock
    Without such "lamps" the combat effectiveness of the fleet is questionable. So very good.

    Without a doubt.
    There would be more of these "lamps" and "fuses" in them:
    1. pahom54
      +2
      6 November 2014 11: 19
      Quote: Hairy Siberian
      There would be more such "lamps" and "fuses" in them :


      I disagree with one thing: let the "fuses" no longer be at the docks, but in the Atlantic next to the Americans on alert duty ...
      1. +4
        6 November 2014 11: 25
        You won’t get into an autonomy just like that ... you need a whole set of preparations ..... and it just includes, among other things, dock examinations, inter-passage examinations, and other, other
    2. +4
      6 November 2014 11: 22
      Yes ...... who understands that this thing in the fleet will be more important than a lot ....... in the queue for a dock inspection for months it is necessary to register, or even more
      1. 0
        6 November 2014 12: 47
        Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
        in the queue for a dock inspection for months, it is necessary to register, or even more

        And then there's mobility, though with axle boxes, but that's it. The current of one such thing is not enough for the entire SF. And in terms of carrying capacity, it is not possible for it to raise Volgoneft with Volgo-Balts.
        1. 0
          6 November 2014 13: 48
          Not ... well, this is not the only dock .... is in Polyarny, Snezhnogorsk, Roslyakovo .......
  9. +1
    6 November 2014 11: 03
    ... Dygalo said that "Zelenodolsk plant named after A.M. Gorky "plans to launch ...

    The timing of the launch in the studio!
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 12: 10
      State order delivery to the fleet - 2015. So it seems to go ahead of schedule ....
    2. 0
      6 November 2014 13: 11
      Today, it seems, they wanted to - November 06.11.2014, XNUMX.
  10. ktylxy
    +1
    6 November 2014 11: 05
    I remember the refrigerator of the same name, older than me and still alive
  11. +3
    6 November 2014 11: 11
    Of course, I'm glad that combat and auxiliary ships are coming to the fleet, but (!) For 7 years now there has been a PD-92 dock in Roslyakovo (at a price of almost a billion + almost the same amount for redeployment + I don't know how much for maintenance all these years !!! ), bought for some reason in Kherson in a state not ready for work. The place for it has not been found yet! Someone put a robust one in his pocket, and the dock is still there. The prosecutor's office, the FSB - they all followed, no sense. So, m. is our long-suffering PD-92 better to bring to mind? And do not waste our (!) Money on the next, it is not clear why the necessary docks! "Pallada" from Snezhnogorsk is still in service, by the way.
    1. avt
      +1
      6 November 2014 11: 24
      Quote: mike_z
      And do not spend our (!) Money on the next it is not clear why the necessary docks!

      ,, "According to the plans of the High Command of the Navy, the mission of Sviyaga will be the repair and maintenance of ships of the Northern Fleet. The floating dock will provide transportation of ships and vessels on inland waterways from north to south, as well as carrying out dock inspections of ships and repairs by means of ship repair enterprises, ”Dygalo TASS quotes.

      This special-purpose vessel was designed by specialists of the St. Petersburg Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau. Construction began in November 2012. This is the first floating dock for the Russian Navy in the last 12 years. "
      Quote: mike_z
      ) For 7 years, the PD-92 dock has been standing in Roslyakovo (at a price of almost a billion + almost the same for redeployment + I don’t know how much to maintain all these years !!!), purchased for some reason in Kherson in a state not ready for work. A place under it has not been found so far!

      But this is a topic for another conversation. I am not a dock specialist and just do not know the performance characteristics of the ones you mentioned, but I think if you conduct a comparative analysis of their performance characteristics, and even if you know their current technical condition, then you will definitely get an answer to your question. And the good news is that the dock is on the way, we are waiting for it to go to work.
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      2. +1
        6 November 2014 11: 32
        I agree! Just pent. PD-92 is a floating, but not a transport dock, this is true.
  12. +2
    6 November 2014 11: 11
    The Northern Fleet is now a priority! There, the sea power of Russia is gaining momentum!
  13. 0
    6 November 2014 11: 23
    just great... good
  14. 0
    6 November 2014 11: 28
    goof etozh probably incredibly complex colossus!)
  15. Leonidych
    0
    6 November 2014 11: 47
    Vivat Russia!
  16. 0
    6 November 2014 11: 56
    We live by promises alone. When they will rejoice like-passed the sea trial entered in the register of the existing fleet.
  17. 0
    6 November 2014 12: 01
    A very useful "contraption" in the naval economy.
  18. +2
    6 November 2014 12: 13
    Have acquired " fellow Apartment " good
    "Project 22570 (code" Apartment ")".
  19. 0
    6 November 2014 12: 22
    Apparently he specializes in transporting submarines. 3300 tons, is it up to which project ?. Varshavyanka definitely fit. So they will be transported from the Baltic to the Black Sea as they become available.
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 13: 17
      Quote: man in the street
      Apparently he specializes in transporting submarines.

      Not only for submarines. The same Zelenodolsk is building "pocket frigates" - SKR pr. 11661 with a standard displacement of 1930 tons and a draft of 4,5 m. They can only be dragged along the Volgo-Balt and the BBK in the dock - there are depths from 4 m.
  20. 0
    6 November 2014 12: 29
    Two IL-76s are being taken to Taganrog for alteration in the A-50EI
    November 2nd, 0:03 AM
    The Russian company SV Trans LLC, specializing in the transportation of oversized, heavy and oversized cargo, has been carrying out transportation from the Tashkent Mechanical Plant JSC (Uzbekistan, the former V.P. Chkalov Tashkent Aviation Production Association, TAPOiCh) since the beginning of October 2014 Russian OJSC "Taganrog Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex named after G.M.Beriev" (TANTK) in Taganrog of the gliders of two unfinished IL-76TD transport aircraft intended for completion at the TANTK as AWACS aircraft and control A-50EI ("EI") for Indian Air Force.
    Sorry, a little off topic, but interesting ....

    The delivery of both unfinished gliders (serial numbers 94-05 and 94-09) is carried out by SV Trans by road train, which includes 14 trailer vehicles, two of which carry directly assembled fuselages. On October 23, a convoy of a road train arrived from Tashkent through the territory of Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan to the Kazakh port of Aktau (formerly Shevchenko) located on the Caspian Sea coast, where both gliders will be loaded onto a cargo ship for subsequent transportation by water to Russian territory (as of October 31, loading has not yet been produced).
  21. +5
    6 November 2014 15: 02
    Today, a champagne bottle was broken well against him.
  22. 0
    6 November 2014 15: 44
    The fact that they hand over the ship is certainly good. But the carrying capacity is needed at least 5000-8000 tons, and at least 5 pieces, but also modern with powerful crane equipment, etc.
  23. +1
    6 November 2014 15: 51
    Quote: Hairy Siberian
    Surprisingly reminds a fluorescent lamp. smile

    So this is the lamp in Photoshop! wassat