Ukrainian army: sprat in tomato, SMS and real colonel

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For the time being, the Ukrainian authorities are celebrating the “well-known peremogu” in the Donbass and resent how Donetsk and Lugansk dared to hold elections without the consent of the star-and-striped host of Ukraine. No, you should not be guided by the illusions that the Ukrainian military, they say, against the military operation in Novorossia. There are, of course, those who are against, but these either are silent “in a rag”, or express their opinions in a narrow circle of like-minded people. The rest of us are worried about much more utilitarian questions, and it is precisely the lack of answers to these questions from the Ukrainian authorities that cause irritation among the Ukrainian soldiers.

One of these questions: why the members of the government and the president, coming to power, argued that the Ukrainian soldier would not only be equipped, fed and well armed, but also receive a “European” allowance in the amount of one thousand hryvnia per day (and one thousand is only for the rank and file, and for people with ribbons and stars on epaulets - and the above), but in the end the army is like a bunch of homeless people.

Such questions are increasingly found not only in the Ukrainian segments of social networks, but also in the Ukrainian media. If yesterday, ukroSMI in one burst of trumpeting about the fact that Poroshenko will come, and the army will turn into the best in the world, then today it does not smell like a single burst. True, Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk have not yet been named as the main culprits of underfunding the army, but time is ticking, and ukroarmia’s everyday problems are not solved.

A few days ago, a material appeared on Facebook in which the user of the social network Laura Artyugin presents a report on his visit to the 90-th separate air-mobile battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, stationed in Zhytomyr. Zhytomyr is not even a zone for Ukrainian troops to carry out the so-called “anti-terrorist operation,” but the diet of Zhytomyr paratroopers literally annoyed the volunteer Artyugin.

Artyugin reports that she, along with other volunteers, brought the 95 airborne brigade to the fighters. This (from the Facebook post) “warm American jackets, bronik, helmets, etc.” At the same time, the volunteer, supplying Ukrainian paratroopers with ammunition, talks about how they feed the paratroopers in the soldiers' canteen.

Menu in the soldier's dining room.

Breakfast: boiled sausage with viscous wheat porridge and sauce; bread, bun, sugar, tea, butter, condensed milk.
Dinner: soup with pasta, canned meat with buckwheat porridge, sauce, bread, compote.
Dinner: canned fish with barley porridge, sauce, bread, butter, sugar, tea.

Ukrainian army: sprat in tomato, SMS and real colonel


For those who served in the Soviet or Russian army (even before the Russian army switched to all kinds of buffets, etc.), this is a quite tolerable diet. Not a restaurant, of course, but you can serve. However, the main reason for dissatisfaction is not so much WHAT “serves”, but rather how HOW “they serve” and WHY the announcements of expenses of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine for food and uniform of soldiers, to put it mildly, do not quite correspond to the real state of things. If we recall the Poroshenko’s thousand a day for a soldier, then somehow canned fish and barley porridge do not fit into this thousand. And if you remember more about the national assembly for ukroarmii via SMS ...

Speaking of canned fish. Ms. Artyugina demonstrates what constitutes a substance, which is designated in the menu as a dinner:



Plastic dishes are especially impressive. Even plates with spoons were taken away?

And this is how it looks in pans in which the cook cooked canned fish and porridge:




The cook told the volunteer that in the saucepan where the brownish slurry is visible - “boiled tinned canned food”, and that “they also cut the onion there”.

After visiting the dining room, Ms. Artyugina writes:
I want to invite the Minister of Defense to dinner. For dinner to the guys in 95-th airmobile to the base near Zhytomyr. I want him, along with his generals, to eat boiled canned sprat. Humiliating. To tears. (...)
I want to know which bastard in the Ministry of Defense is responsible for the menu and the range of products?
Why the funds raised by the Ukrainian people are not used for the normal supply of our military?


One gets the impression that Ms. Artyugina was born only yesterday and, out of her naivety, thinks that the new Ukrainian authorities came into the country only to defeat corruption and make Ukraine strong and strong ...

Tyulka, you see, the volunteers in the pan saw ... Well, really those millions of Ukrainians who sent 5-hryvnia text messages in support of the army really thought that the officials would send the collected funds to the troops? Did they really think that the Geletei-Yatsenyuk-Turchinovs would not be satisfied with this money, either? If they really thought so, then it is doubly strange. After all, the very fact that Ukrainian paratroopers need to buy and bring “warm American jackets, helmets and broniki” for personal funds (as Ms. Artyugin herself writes) should have led the volunteers to think that money has been stolen.

While the volunteers raise funds for the army, Yatsenyuk won the “wall” builds - and this is exactly from the same series as the kilka in the saucepan ... The funds were collected, the budget was drunk, the citizens were hung up, and the forward was to the “peremog”.

And the grumbling of the Ukrainian military themselves is not worth a penny. "Warriors" stand and look at how they brought the next "nishtyakov" women volunteers. Healthy, strong men ... Marines ... They were lined up to look at how they delivered ammunition in the bags of market-place merchants - they say, carry them again, we will protect you.



Such pictures must be very pleasing to the eyes of people responsible in the Square for financing the army ...

The same Mrs. Artyugina a couple of days after visiting the Zhytomyr paratroopers reported that with an inspection in Zhytomyr, Colonel Andrukh left, saying that instead of sprat there would be a sardine ...



I wonder if this colonel has camouflage from volunteers too? Or through SMS-ki "shot" ...
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  1. predator.3
    +36
    6 November 2014 07: 49
    For those who served in the Soviet or Russian army (even before the Russian army switched to all sorts of buffets, etc.), a completely decent diet.

    In the Soviet Army, they fed many times better, but what is shown in our time was not even given to pigs!
    1. +19
      6 November 2014 08: 54
      Quote: predator.3
      For those who served in the Soviet or Russian army (even before the Russian army switched to all sorts of buffets, etc.), a completely decent diet.

      In the Soviet Army, they fed many times better, but what is shown in our time was not even given to pigs!

      I would not argue so categorically. Something, of course, was better, BUT ... From one memory of bigos or fried canned fish, heartburn still begins. And they tried to immediately send the "kirzuhu" to a pig farm, otherwise it had to whether not to pick out a rebound from the boiler.
      1. predator.3
        +10
        6 November 2014 09: 41
        Quote: 26rus
        .. From one memory of bigos or fried canned fish, heartburn still begins. And "kirzuhu"

        Excuse me, what is "bigos"? and we did not fry canned fish, they mostly fried frozen fish, they fed especially well during the exercises.
        1. +7
          6 November 2014 10: 15
          Bigos is stewed sauerkraut. It was quite edible for itself) They just gave it with a fried herring)
        2. Alex_Popovson
          +12
          6 November 2014 10: 15
          Bigus - cabbage acid poison. The idea was to make up for the lack of vitamin C. A couple of times I saw and canned food with it. The abomination is crappy.
          1. +4
            6 November 2014 11: 50
            Here, "bigus", that is how it was called in the layouts of the rear. But "bigos" is completely different, it is a Polish-Belarusian dish, in which half of the volume is cabbage, and half is meat and smoked meats.
            1. +4
              6 November 2014 15: 19
              He served in Poland. Maybe that's why this dish was called "bigos" in the layout. It was a stewed cabbage with the addition of a certain amount of lard and carrots. It smells like silage, tastes like electrolyte.
            2. +1
              6 November 2014 19: 30
              in-in! and what prapora fed you with - it depended on the unit commander! I still remember Bati’s visits to the soldier’s canteen, so our asshole fell on the ass, God forbid what a puncture — it will fly out of the unit and rattle it under trial. Moreover, Dad could come to the dining room and bookmark the products, after which he usually rested in the dining room under arrest for a couple of days.
          2. +7
            6 November 2014 12: 21
            Good health to all.
            What you call bigos and what you were fed with is not bigos at all, but some kind of ... achki (instead of three dots, read the letter "P"). Bigos canned or with fried herring ...? Already for this it is necessary to go to jail! Okay, maybe God will forgive the souls of commanders, warehouse workers and cooks, but you are Citizens! You must not allow embezzlers to mock you!
            What about bigos? Almost divine food. There is cabbage (it can be fresh and pickled, and the mixture can be), there are carrots with onions, and mushrooms, and pieces of beef, and pieces of pork, and greaves, and seasoned lard. Not Muslim food! And in different families, in different ways, different roots are sprinkled, just like girls, according to home tradition, mothers taught, so they feed us. And they choke it all (gradually and intermittently) for 3 (three) days, and on the fourth day they eat. Or just like that or with bread.
            BY THE WAY. Vitamin "C" ceases to be a vitamin at temperatures above 60 degrees Celsius. If you are fed or watered with something that has been boiled or fried, or filled with something at temperatures above 60 degrees Celsius, you will not find vitamin "C" there.
            1. SOB
              0
              6 November 2014 18: 53
              Dear Hrad! About citizens, you have notably wrapped it up, but I wouldn’t spread my fingers like that, otherwise they will put it in the box, the lid will not close. :-)
            2. KZakVO
              0
              6 November 2014 19: 32
              Here you are so smart, but they fed everyone with BIGOS (only in SA)
          3. 0
            6 November 2014 16: 06
            Quote: Alex_Popovson
            Bigus - cabbage acid poison

            And in our coca, the kapustius bigus was very normal. I liked it anyway. Unlike bolts.
        3. +2
          6 November 2014 15: 10
          Quote: predator.3
          Quote: 26rus
          .. From one memory of bigos or fried canned fish, heartburn still begins. And "kirzuhu"

          Excuse me, what is "bigos"? and we did not fry canned fish, they mostly fried frozen fish, they fed especially well during the exercises.

          Have you tried fried canned fish? Ohhhh .... You lost a lot! They were sprats (gobies, flounder, etc.) in a tomato, which were laid out in a large pan and stewed for an hour and a half. To the question - why? - the cooks replied that it was the way to prevent poisoning. Served for dinner.
          1. Alf
            0
            6 November 2014 22: 58
            Quote: 26rus
            chefs replied that this is the way to prevent poisoning

            Was the diarrhea cooks guaranteed?
        4. +1
          6 November 2014 16: 49
          Bigos cabbage with potatoes and whole
        5. KZakVO
          0
          6 November 2014 19: 30
          And if you don’t know the basic things of CA why then you write, maybe you didn’t serve at all?
        6. +1
          6 November 2014 20: 53
          It's just that 26rus served in the Baltics - and there it is a national dish. This is boiled meat with potatoes and sauerkraut - but only boiled cabbage remains in the army menu :))) And also "polar bear meat" - boiled unshaven lard.
          I know for myself - he served in Lithuania.
          But I won’t lie - no one died of hunger, even some intemperate in food, got better smile
        7. 0
          7 November 2014 02: 45
          Bigus is a great thing, cannabis is only for training (meat was constant).
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      3. +9
        6 November 2014 10: 38
        Quote: 26rus
        And they tried to immediately send the "kirzukha" to the pig farm

        It depends on the cooks. There was a case when personnel ate ALL kirzuha. The foreman in the dining room cursed that the pigs would starve. The cooks heard that the mashed potatoes were left in the dishes the next day - for pigs. In this part, for 1,5 years I recovered by 9 kg. And the cadre regiment on the Finnish border, where there were fees for training reserve officers for demobilists with higher education, was remembered by the wild smell of sauerkraut, the general drunkenness of officers and sprat paste with gingerbread cookies - an assortment in a cap. At the party meeting, Polkan complained to the Communists that his ensigns, when drunk, were involved in an accident in Priozersk at the time they were to be in the service. The breakfast room is locked with a padlock - the nach food was washed down, locked on the lip, no keys. They cannot give out money allowance - the nachfin washed down, locked on his lip. A lot, almost everything, depends on the commander.
        1. predator.3
          +2
          6 November 2014 13: 09
          I want to add, it depends not only on the cooks, but also on the command, our officers were basically all after the Afghan, there was a case when the political officer of the regiment at the oil cutter (Azerbaijani) revealed 2-3 kg of "saved" oil, maso - into the boiler with the second, oil cutter, on the lip, and then into the infantry!
          1. +2
            6 November 2014 17: 07
            During his stay in the GSVG as a civilian, he had to eat for some time in the unit where the commander was an officer who passed Afghanistan. I don’t often remember such quality food as there, even from my naval military service.
            Everything related to food, not least of all, depends on the command!
        2. 0
          6 November 2014 19: 13
          And the cadre regiment on the Finnish border, where for demobilization with higher education there were fees for training reserve officers,


          Incidentally, was it not in Kulikovo? belay
      4. +8
        6 November 2014 11: 08
        I remember that for breakfast they also gave semolina porridge, with sprats in a tomato ...
        And fabulous replacement rates when meat turned into pickled cucumbers ...
        1. 0
          7 November 2014 17: 48
          And to us with the meat of a polar bear.
      5. +3
        6 November 2014 13: 26
        I support. In the Soviet Army, the quality of food largely depended on the attitude of the commander of the military unit and the head of the rear to this issue. I was fortunate enough to serve in a unit where the food was good both in quality and quantity. Rotten potatoes - have not been seen. True, there was no white bread, but high-quality gray bread was constantly and practically in unlimited quantities - in broad daylight it was possible to take a loaf of gray from the bread-cutter to "maintain the melting forces" without any problems. The fat was only pork fat, the fat was not used at all. Only once, 3-4 days, the combined fat was used when the pork in the warehouse ran out, and the new one had not yet been delivered. And the "foreman" on this occasion, the staff at the club gathered to explain the situevina. Against the background of a study with sauerkraut cabbage soup and vegetable rygu from the same cabbage - heaven.
        But not everyone was so lucky.

        ps He served first in training, and then in the linear parts. And during training and at the part there was a pigsty, so a significant part of the meat was obtained independently. Pigs were fed with canteen waste - a waste-free production was obtained.
      6. +1
        6 November 2014 15: 04
        26rus
        Colleague, everything depended on the command. In Liepaja, the base had its own pig farm. There was not a lot of meat, but barley porridge with cracklings in unlimited quantities - very much even nothing! And when the ship was on patrol - a separate thrill! All those free from the watch were catching cod "on the hook", and for evening tea fresh fried cod from the belly! And when the bread ran out, they opened cans of breadcrumbs. What delicious crackers were! And at the base in the sailor's cafe: cottage cheese, kefirchik, fresh buns! Song! And it was all worth a penny. In the Baltics, dairy products have always been at their best.
        Around the same time, a little later, at the training ground in Issykkul on the second platform in the canteen, for my money, only some kind of fried fish with sticky pasta. And every day!
        "What we have - we do not store, having lost - we cry!"
      7. +2
        6 November 2014 18: 52
        http://topwar.ru/user/26rus-
        I, too, would categorically say so. I remember Kovrov’s training and delicacy, the yolk from an egg crumbled on butter spread on white bread.
      8. +3
        6 November 2014 20: 36
        Everything depends on the cook. If the hands under the h are sharpened, give at least some products, you can immediately throw them away.
    2. -3
      6 November 2014 11: 02
      Are you really?))
      That's enough to lie and the brains of young people litter bragging :)
      And then I will start to remember and it will become bad.
      1. +3
        6 November 2014 11: 15
        Quote: Alcoholic
        Are you really?))
        That's enough to lie and the brains of young people litter bragging :)
        And then I will start to remember and it will become bad.
        1. +3
          6 November 2014 15: 03
          Of course "dreamer")) Only if I remember about alcoholized (from packages) bread without butter (which was supposed to be), and rotten sauerkraut without everything and so for almost a year and a half, then I think "dill" food is still a fairy tale.
          Or am I wrong?
          Here a lot of people will not be allowed to lie that in the army from 80-87 they fed very badly. I am not talking about the Navy. I was not there.
          1. +1
            6 November 2014 15: 18
            :)) Although the second year of service was already on the drum.
          2. +3
            6 November 2014 16: 11
            Quote: Alcoholic
            Here a lot of people will not be allowed to lie that in the army from 80-87 they fed very badly. I am not talking about the Navy. I was not there.

            Thank God you didn’t fall into the years 97-99. The norms of sailor rations on the wall of the galley were like a mockery. Due to malnutrition, one of the RTPs had a riot worse than Potemkin. And it's on the border!
          3. +1
            6 November 2014 19: 25
            in the army from 80-87 years fed very badly


            I disagree. Where the rear officials stole "according to conscience" winked, fed normally, and where they stole "conscientiously", it was really bad there. At that time I served in the GSVG and I know that they were fed well, in 87m I got to the Leningrad Military District, we were fed well in Sapyorny, fighters came from Kamenka, so they said that they feed us like at home, and in Kamenka there is a circle of fat in soup. for happiness. So we and the divisional commander of rear services tore in full for feeding the soldiers.
          4. +1
            6 November 2014 21: 00
            I do not agree - served 85-87 in Lithuania. Not to say that chocolate, but it was possible to live. Well, on the days when there was polar bear meat and bigos - they sat on gingerbread from the store at the unit (I don’t know how the others did, but we called it a bulldozer).
          5. 0
            7 November 2014 14: 08
            Quote: Alcoholic
            Here a lot of people will not be allowed to lie that in the army from 80-87 they fed very badly.

            I read how everyone complains about poor feeding, and I think that maybe I was just lucky. He served as an urgent in the Far East, the port of Vanino, a working battalion, 1967-69. We didn’t eat at home as well as in the army. Every day in the morning there was coffee, butter, and on a fish day there was chum salmon or pink salmon. Those who went on vacation took fish instead of a hotel. Near the unit there was a fish farm (Orochi lived), and this red fish in our warehouses stood in barrels.
          6. 0
            8 November 2014 15: 06
            Where did you serve? I don’t remember what you are saying here. I served near the city of Vorkuta, fed very well. Years of service 1985-87. He was on a business trip in Andropov, Klimovsk, Krasnoyarsk and Dikson for his service. Somewhere is better, in other places a little worse, but what you describe is sounding. Write where you served, I will find witnesses to your lies.
    3. +3
      6 November 2014 11: 20
      I confirm. I grew up in the military camps of the GSVG and KBVO, and we rummaged with homies, including in the military units, sometimes went into the dining room, where they fed us all without problems, and I did not see such a bandage.
    4. +10
      6 November 2014 11: 33
      Quote: predator.3
      For those who served in the Soviet or Russian army (even before the Russian army switched to all sorts of buffets, etc.), a completely decent diet.

      In the Soviet Army, they fed many times better, but what is shown in our time was not even given to pigs!
    5. +4
      6 November 2014 11: 35
      Quote: predator.3
      The Soviet Army fed many times better


      predator--- a canteen exactly like ours at the training ground (Kapyar, point 5 grater) the same cauldrons with meat and pearl barley (0,8 fraction) only bread is all white, we had 50/50, I was the first sergeant head of the table on the right .... opposite Corporal Fedya-Uzbek (I don’t really know what to call), next to Kalmyk Stepan (land from the Volgograd region))))
      _______________________________________________________________________
      yes, damn remembering ....
    6. +4
      6 November 2014 11: 38
      For many years, as a child, I lived in parts with Dad, what my mother cooked at home and what I was given in the soldier’s canteen (I also had to eat all the time), it’s better not to remember and not to compare at all, there is similarity in nutrition between some village hospital and the army , you’ll eat something strange looking and taste the same only from hunger through I don’t want to ...
    7. Alf
      0
      6 November 2014 22: 54
      Quote: predator.3
      but what is shown, in our time, even pigs were not given!

      Already what my Doberman swallowed, but from this he will turn his face away.
    8. 0
      6 November 2014 23: 57
      Is your time interesting when? 1994 VVA them. Gagarin company guard. At that time, our diet was about the same, but in the morning there were no sausages, they gave us a boiled egg, instead of a box - powdered potatoes .... They say it’s better now.
    9. 0
      7 November 2014 10: 57
      probably you and I served in different Soviet armies!
      Our part was fed mediocre.
  2. +7
    6 November 2014 07: 49
    Volunteers are also real zombies / like their national guard / - do not want to see the plunder of their country by pro-American puppet rulers.
  3. +17
    6 November 2014 07: 54
    And the bunch of unshaven men in the picture, dressed in mismatched jackets and hats - are these "guys from the 95th airmobile brigade"?
    1. +7
      6 November 2014 08: 28
      And in their bags they brought padded jackets so that they would not freeze in the winter !!! laughing
    2. +2
      6 November 2014 09: 09
      Most likely the best part of it is also.
    3. +3
      6 November 2014 10: 11
      Yes, it looks like the bunch of tramps are "the guys from 95 ..."
    4. Alf
      0
      6 November 2014 23: 04
      Quote: TRex
      And the bunch of unshaven men in the picture, dressed in mismatched jackets and hats - are these "guys from the 95th airmobile brigade"?

      They mobile filmed with MTD, and all the junk remained there.
  4. +17
    6 November 2014 08: 02
    I didn’t break into a tear, a lump did not fit my throat ...
  5. +4
    6 November 2014 08: 06
    Goebels propaganda ruins doing their job. Unfortunately, ukro-zombies will not be sober soon, it remains to be hoped that this will someday happen.
    1. +4
      6 November 2014 08: 27
      The klyatykh already have a new missile "Ternopil" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQO96CYMRU
      "Zhmerynka", "Berdichev" and "Kamenets-Podolskiy-1" laughing
  6. +14
    6 November 2014 08: 10
    I felt uneasy, and they got the most "fat" piece from the USSR Army ??? !!!! Giant warehouses with equipment and products for long storage, and I remembered the movie "The Baron of arms" - how everything was sold there. We went through something like this in the 90s, and they rejoiced at our problems, not missing an opportunity to screw up, and now, looking at them, it’s not even funny, the feeling is the same as when we saw a neighbor descending, who used to turn up his nose in front of you, being proud their wealth, now the roles have changed
  7. +10
    6 November 2014 08: 20
    Yes, to hell with them let slops hawala if they do not want to open their eyes to reality.
  8. +5
    6 November 2014 08: 26
    Yes, I say that still the country of "fools" !!!! Well, in the Russian army, the norms are fed, but I had a MINUS IN THAT the midshipman who was the senior on the allowance of the s.//.y. // ... to ... and gave two times less food than was supposed to, since he was a HAHOL from the country "FOOLS" !!! And so everything is exactly the norms of feed in the fleet good !!!
    1. Steel loli
      -4
      6 November 2014 13: 03
      I don’t know about your navy, but our nephew was sent to the army in 2013. He left for the army as a healthy bull 2 ​​meters tall with a "wide bone", and returned half deaf rickets. We were glad that at least we returned alive and we still cannot fatten.
      And so that I die if my son from this crippled army is not otmazyvat.
      1. +3
        6 November 2014 13: 28
        Who fumbles that decides !!! So he set himself up and did not think how to do what for his stomach !!! especially for 1 year of service (TALE, NOT SERVICE) !!! THIS IS NOT FOR YOU 2 and not the first call 1 \ 5 !!!
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  9. Artem1967
    +5
    6 November 2014 08: 28
    Bring more, the "guys" will cough up everything, and the Ministry of Defense will reward you with a diploma.
  10. +5
    6 November 2014 08: 36
    heh, poor lads, not eating bicus) served 2006-07. the last call for two years, but after the university he repaid his current homeland for a year. about feeding. at first unusual, and then it was very normal and satisfying. although the fish were given current fried - steamed cod. it was very tasty)
  11. +4
    6 November 2014 08: 36
    in the Red Army, canned food was given out only in the form of officer rations. Zoldatiks were given canned food in the form of dry rations for the duration of the exercises, and then my company foreman, senior ensign Bobrik took canned food "... they will eat canned food on the march"
    1. +2
      6 November 2014 13: 35
      Sukhpayk soldiers were given not only for the exercises. On business trips too. I got once in the mid-80s on a business trip. Winter. One. There is 1 (One) ruble in your pocket and a requirement to transport a serviceman. To the home part of more than one and a half thousand km. Sukhpayk, issued for 3 days, had to be stretched for 5 days. Canned food (porridge with meat) is a very tasty thing !!! Nothing ... I didn’t swell from hunger and got to the part.

      And the ensign who took food from soldiers is a bastard.
  12. +3
    6 November 2014 08: 37
    The main moral blow to the Ukrainian troops will be not bad food and bad ammunition, but the realization that they are not fighting for a just cause. While they think that the Russian army and the terrorists will be a long war against them (unless of course they suffer a series of serious defeats, but they hope this is not worth it). The question is how to convey the truth to their brainwashed ...
  13. +3
    6 November 2014 08: 37
    I ate like that in '86 and then while I was a "rookie")
  14. +4
    6 November 2014 08: 48
    In our charter it was written "A soldier must steadfastly endure all the hardships and hardships of military service" and in 95, receiving a can of sprat or saury every evening, they had a strategic reserve for exchange for meat.
  15. +3
    6 November 2014 08: 55
    No, you should not be guided by the illusions that the Ukrainian military is allegedly against the military operation in New Russia.
    they will see clearly but it will be too late, the dead, as you know, do not sweat winked
  16. DPZ
    +6
    6 November 2014 09: 05
    instead of tyulka there will be a sardine
    in these words, the whole essence of today's durkaina: instead of one minister, another, instead of one president, another, instead of one composition, welcome another, but the sense is zero !!!
    1. +2
      6 November 2014 10: 14
      Quote: DPZ
      instead of one minister, another, instead of one president, another instead of one composition, another is welcome, but the sense is zero !!!

      from a change in terms the sum does not change (axiom however) ...
    2. +2
      6 November 2014 14: 52
      well, why immediately zero? now, they will indulge the sardine. already abbreviated). if this goes well, then maybe they will give water to the pool
  17. +1
    6 November 2014 09: 29
    Yes, in the USSR, whole FIC worked on a soldier's diet!
  18. +4
    6 November 2014 09: 29
    I was called in 2003 and at the training I was fed the same way, water with lard and a cross section with sprats. And not
    1. +1
      6 November 2014 11: 02
      you were an conscript, I, as I understand it, contract soldiers.
      1. +1
        6 November 2014 13: 08
        and what is the difference between soldiers and he is an African soldier. We have contract soldiers ate with us
  19. +10
    6 November 2014 09: 55
    In the SA, of course, they did not indulge with pickups and the range of products also did not shine with variety, but there everything depended on the unit commander. I served urgently in 1985-1987. and with a very meager assortment of products, our commander diversified the diet with all his might. I must say what he did. Absolutely non-edible meat with the help of interns from the food technical school turned into completely meatballs, a kirzukha was always mixed with something, the famous combi was forbidden for use and exchanged for something more edible, fresh herbs and onion-garlic were grown in each division under control foremen in the order, etc. so there would be a desire and everything can be done. Apparently, the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are absolutely equal in what way the soldiers are fed. There is no other explanation. By the way, the commander of the unit was the sub-command V. Shlyutov.
    1. +5
      6 November 2014 10: 42
      That's right - a lot, if not all, depends on the commanders on the spot. The Minister of Defense cannot check every bowler daily. And products stand out equally in all parts. Well, or almost the same) And about this bombing rally, which some here by inertia continue to call the army, there’s nothing to say - they don’t deserve another - these creatures that kill peaceful people.
    2. 0
      8 November 2014 15: 12
      I agree partially. The food supply was good. Well, what are you so right about in the commander, if you stole then they didn’t really eat. But I note in the whole country the food was at the level. For an urgent visit to several cities, ate with dignity.
  20. +4
    6 November 2014 10: 16
    Artyugina reports that she, along with other volunteers, brought the fighters of the 95th airmobile brigade. This (from a Facebook post) “warm American jackets, a bronik, helmets, etc.”

    and then the brave guys from PS will come and all the nishtyaks will pick ...
  21. +3
    6 November 2014 10: 22
    Quote: predator.3
    For those who served in the Soviet or Russian army (even before the Russian army switched to all sorts of buffets, etc.), a completely decent diet.

    In the Soviet Army, they fed many times better, but what is shown in our time was not even given to pigs!

    He served 1996-1998 in the Murmansk region in a construction battalion, they fed in the same way and it’s still good, otherwise you would come for dinner, turn the plate over and the porridge in the form of a plate lies on the table like jelly, later transferred to another part in Polyarny, so there even for dinner, both the 1st and 2nd dishes were. In general, a lot depends on the unit commander.
  22. +2
    6 November 2014 10: 35
    Article plus. For "caustically and aptly")
  23. +3
    6 November 2014 10: 56
    And what did they want from a state collapsed by their own efforts? And what does not suit their kilka? By and large, the outskirts after a joyful separation from the USSR switched from sausage to sprat and was happy. The mysterious dill soul, was sure that everyone except her lives worse, on the forums a couple of months ago it was possible to meet types who sincerely believe in this. Now they no longer live better than quilted jackets, but the quilted jackets are to blame for this ... the logic ... and the fact that the quilted jackets live better than they are to blame ... quilted jackets.
    So dill already rejoice in the fact that while you still have plates of slime in your plates.
  24. +1
    6 November 2014 11: 02
    “The soldier is guilty of steadily enduring all the hardships and amusement of the service of the Vіy, as well as to hunger and impertinence and amputation of frostbite ...” (Polish Statute of the Army of Ukraine)
  25. Tirpitz
    +6
    6 November 2014 11: 06
    95 brigade is Dnepropetrovsk and not Zhytomyr. She doesn’t even know where the reportage is, clowness.
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 18: 34
      Strange, but they always claimed at VO that Dnepropetrovsk is the 25th, not the 95th. Maybe someone needs to re-verify their data?
  26. +8
    6 November 2014 11: 10
    Quote: 26rus
    or fried canned fish, heartburn still begins. And they tried to immediately send the "kirzukha" to the pig farm, otherwise they had to almost pick it out from the boiler.

    Come on!! Forgot the butter in circles? Sugar lump? Meat, albeit with a venation. but it was in every boiler. So there is no need to say here that they were swollen from hunger.
    And if you remember how we were fed in the same Chernobyl (by the way Ukrainian), then it's worth saying. that the chefs were from the Universal Restaurant. It is in St. Petersburg who does not know.
    I still prefer the stew of a military guest, 338 g.
    Peacocks, you say ... XXX ... Eh!
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 14: 43
      And I didn’t say that someone was hungry. But "kirza" in the part was not eaten by ANYONE, just when translated from. replenishment in the companies young people were immediately informed that for this one could fall under the category of hm. After a month or two, everyone got used to it and the desire to eat it did not even arise. By the way, they didn't eat black bread either. Maybe someone will not like it, but personally I am only grateful to such a "diet", because it saved the stomach from gastritis and other "delights". As an example, I will cite a case when, in a kitchen outfit, a "joker" stuck several plates with "kirzukha" to the wall in the dining room. During the transfer of the outfit, it was possible to tear them off only together with the plaster.
      1. +1
        6 November 2014 21: 07
        So you didn’t do a damn thing in the army! It would be interesting to see how barley and brown bread would not be eaten after 10k in full calculation - such were our sporting holidays on Saturday (or 5k at a time). And three rubles were run every day in the morning - on a charge.
        Airborne. Kaunas 85-87.
        1. 0
          6 November 2014 21: 43
          He did not serve in the Airborne Forces - the guard battalion of the group headquarters. The "feigned" part, so there was some fancy. But what you write about - marches, "sports holidays" on weekends and holidays, cross-country in the mornings - all this was regular. The loads, maybe not like in the Airborne Forces, but they didn't drive a bum. And, naturally, they did not feed the tarpaulin all the time. And nobody canceled the cap. SGV, Poland, 86-88
          1. 0
            6 November 2014 23: 12
            Sorry, "courtyard". The tablet is "clever."
  27. +3
    6 November 2014 11: 33
    Hot resin is not enough for them ... in the throat and in other crevices.
    S.ki Again in Donetsk, children were killed.
  28. Quantum
    +3
    6 November 2014 11: 51
    This Svidomo woman had to be fed, and even spanked by train, so that the brains fell into place! Or is it too late?
    Geeks are killing children! Don't take prisoners of artillery!
  29. +1
    6 November 2014 13: 04
    the army was never a sanatorium ... without ice cream, we could do a lot of things, although it was always good to eat and from the belly
  30. 0
    6 November 2014 13: 07
    And where is the fat menu ?????
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 13: 17
      But there is fat, it is shredded in the Donbass, then it will be returned to dill in zinc
  31. 0
    6 November 2014 13: 18
    Dear, after all, it turns out, like cheese in butter, rolled my service in the SA. On the menu we had fried potatoes and pasta and rice porridge, all regularly and conscientiously flavored with meat. The food was not much different from the officer's restaurant, I was there in dress. It's a shame to say, but for the first time I ate a real "tourist breakfast" during an exercise. But I have never been to hot spots and not from an elite unit, an ordinary infantryman, a junior, then just a sergeant. I also saw officer rations, "my mom is going to go," I won't.
  32. 0
    6 November 2014 13: 28
    Do not confuse real bigos and goulash with the masterpieces that the canteen issued to us in the days of developed socialism! This is a very tasty and very satisfying food, if it is properly cooked. And if you also accompany it with good beer and wine, then there will be no edge to your delight.
  33. +1
    6 November 2014 13: 53
    He served in 1965-1968 years. For dinner, there was a must for mashed potatoes with fish. At first they gave salted herring and there was a concept: how many meters are the herring to the demobilization. Then they replaced it with fried pollock or hake. Spring, when the potatoes ran out, replaced with dried potatoes and the pigs started holiday Eggs and cocoa only for a holiday. Butter 10gr, then added 10. Fat was given in the exercises, but nobody ate it, although they were hungry_on it was yellow and had a smell. Nothing served. For the first year I recovered for 11kg, though later I threw some of it away .
    So, Ukrainians snickered (
  34. +2
    6 November 2014 14: 13
    In the Soviet Army they fed better, but not everywhere and not always! According to the stories of my friends (conscripts) somewhere patties with cutlets, and somewhere bigus and millet. Deputy to the rear. and in Soviet times they stole (especially in later).
  35. Bor
    +1
    6 November 2014 14: 17
    Until Vasilyeva with her former boss pick up what they deserve, there will be no proper incentive for our military leaders to abide by the Law.
  36. 0
    6 November 2014 14: 23
    I don’t understand why the photograph of a plate with obscure food caused such heated discussions.
    In food, the main thing is that you climb into the throat, nutritiousness and so that it does not immediately jump out from behind.
    Seeing photos and worse - the same foie gras or truffles look much less attractive.
    The rest of the photos with dull dill and women who want to send them to where it is hot is a much more interesting reason for conversation.
  37. sega72
    0
    6 November 2014 15: 13
    served in 90 92 in the air force, engineer. This was the feeding, sour cabbage with sprats in that sauce, barley with boiled pollock, and Warning dry potatoes with tomato. I first experienced heartburn in training.
  38. 0
    6 November 2014 16: 16
    We had meat cutlets, cabbage and stewed potatoes with meat, salads from fresh vegetables and so on, and everything was delicious. Tula 106th Airborne Forces.
    1. 0
      6 November 2014 19: 46
      bro! Hello! I served there in 70-72 m. nostalgia ...
  39. 0
    6 November 2014 16: 22
    Quote: Spade
    Here, "bigus", that is how it was called in the layouts of the rear. But "bigos" is completely different, it is a Polish-Belarusian dish, in which half of the volume is cabbage, and half is meat and smoked meats.
  40. 0
    6 November 2014 16: 38
    But why did they change the epaulettes on the chest?
    1. 0
      7 November 2014 17: 48
      It’s also interesting along the way the lump is not native, but maybe Polish
  41. +3
    6 November 2014 17: 49
    About six months ago, on the ITON-TV channel, I met with the statement of a military expert that there is NO such thing as a "Ukrainian army". Then I strongly doubted and considered such a statement too categorical. Six months have passed ... And I see: ITON-TV is right! There is no such thing as "Ukrainian army"! There are a bunch of marauders, bandits of all stripes, deceived boys from ordinary families, who are "led" by experienced embezzlers, scoundrels and mediocrity! This "army" will let the remains of the world're coming out-ruins! Go ahead, dill!
  42. 0
    6 November 2014 18: 07
    From the army "pickles" I especially remember porridge - blue and blue color. And unshaven in black stubble boiled lard in pieces. From what porridge was cooked, it's hard to say. But blue porridge and yellowish unshaven bacon in a plate would look very patriotic for Bandera.
  43. 0
    6 November 2014 19: 03
    Come on, you bicker. They fed the Soviet Army quite tolerably, began serving in 1970, the approximate menu was:
    - breakfast: Buckwheat porridge, rice, goulash with gravy, tea with sugar, butter 20 gr.
    - Lunch: Rassolnik, borsch, pasta soup; barley porridge, pearl barley, millet, stew, fried (if pork), always portioned; salad of fresh or salted vegetables, vinaigrette; compote, jelly.
    - dinner: Mashed potatoes, herring, sometimes there was salted red fish, tea with sugar.
    Everything was cooked neatly, the dining room was clean, well-groomed, 800 people ate. The truth is remembered for one period, for a month at lunch, instead of brown bread, breadcrumbs were given (in all likelihood the shelf life was reached) Bread for 10 people was: for breakfast, dinner, one a loaf of black, two white; at lunchtime, two black, one white. Then, somewhere in 1975, the norms of bread were reduced, due to the fact that it always remained. The calorie content was very high, in almost six months all the soldiers gained from 5 to 10 kg of weight, naturally Vitamins are not enough, but what do you want? Tea did not come to the resort.
  44. SOB
    +2
    6 November 2014 19: 17
    Kirzukha is pearl barley porridge, which periodically force my spouse to cook. Steamed, but with cracklings, and with a fried onion, but under five drops, the Anglo-Saxons will understand horseradish. And the soldier’s dining room of the neighboring military unit instilled in me a love for this dish, where the boys and I ran for lunch. The soldiers and the turn did not drive us, and sometimes we dined with them. Do not drive their own. These are childhood memories.
  45. 0
    6 November 2014 19: 56
    Yes, in Termez, in the sapper battalion, a piece was Voroshilovgrad lived there next to the cambrod. I sold grubs to the Uzbeks and poisoned us with dry potatoes. But today, all of his thieves' deeds come to him.
  46. INF
    0
    6 November 2014 21: 15
    What are you all about the Soviet army, here is the year 2000, this crappy cabbage for dinner with boiled flounder or fried herring. Can be served for lunch in the form of soup. When used, you are overwhelmed with feelings and you imagine yourself a horse who eats sawdust. The only difference is in conscience, who allowed himself to steal as much as he can. Here in the neighboring part they fed so that, by our standards, they would have eaten a squad.
  47. 0
    6 November 2014 21: 35
    On this Andrukh, a military uniform sits like a saddle on a cow. What the hell is he military?
  48. 0
    6 November 2014 22: 01
    In 92, in Nizhny Novgorod, we got to the factory and there was a complex lunch. Well, compared to the soldier’s canteen, it’s heavenly food. And then at a point in the forest, in a small team, they fed me for slaughter. And buns and juice and condensed milk , in sour cream soup, in tea sugar (it was true that I had to buy vodka ourselves). And the fact that in the photo is certainly impossible, but for some reason I have no pity for them.
  49. 0
    6 November 2014 22: 18
    [quote = predator.3] The Soviet Army fed many times better, but what is shown, in our time, even pigs were not allowed!
    [......................... And yet = Ukrainians = again today rushed into battle on a 75% demarcation line, probably decided to get hold of trophy food and at the same time requisition from the population of Donbass = edal = instruments ......... In a word again = Drang nakh = southeast ................
  50. wanderer_032
    0
    6 November 2014 23: 32
    And I will never forget a kirzuha with a type of cracklings from rancid bacon with unsealed stubble, a vermicelli cooked in a monolith with flour beetles for an appetizer, cabbage soup with pieces of cyanotic tasteless beef (I remember stamps of the 40s and 50s on some carcasses) were generously seasoned freaking commissary, who began to harden as soon as cabbage soup slightly cooled. Acidic bigus was also present. And also moisha (capelin) fried randomly (very often).
    They lived on only one tea, and bread with a washer of butter, and they sometimes gave millet porridge in milk powder on weekends. The very chip that so fed in the border troops, in training late 90s. Honestly, it was so insulting then, I came to serve the Motherland, and you’ve got a plateau like that (probably even convicts didn’t treat such crap then) on a plate, eat and get better in your homeland defender. negative
  51. 0
    7 November 2014 00: 24
    So the volunteers brought all sorts of crap, let them eat sprat soup, shoot, fight, and then ask Kiev {if they are smart enough} - how long?
  52. 0
    7 November 2014 00: 25
    I personally remember pea porridge with pieces of lard... so bad!! wassat
    And also salted cod from the “times of the Ochakovskys and the conquest of the Crimea.” You need to soak it for a day, and then - at least fish soup, at least fry it for the second... even tastier laughing
    Quite the Soviet Army
  53. 0
    7 November 2014 02: 03
    Despite all the seeming worthlessness of the Ukrainian army, it has a significant advantage over the Army of Novorossiya (if such a thing exists in principle...) - its mass character. The current level of government can easily compensate for the number of uncombat-ready formations with newly arrived volunteers...
  54. 0
    7 November 2014 08: 49
    This, it turns out, is what Eeyore was talking about: “A heartbreaking sight!” This is about that colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who promised each soldier a sardine, which is in the last photo in the article. Apart from canned sprat, there is not a single shisha yet, and apparently he is allergic to sprat.
  55. hula11
    0
    7 November 2014 12: 37
    Hello, I served in the Airborne Forces in 93-95, bigos every day for dinner. Only after demobilization did I find out that in addition to cabbage and potatoes, there should also be meat.
    1. 0
      8 November 2014 15: 14
      It’s not surprising that during this period of time, even in civilian life, I didn’t have the opportunity to add meat to this dish ((((
  56. 0
    7 November 2014 17: 46
    Quote: 26rus
    He served in Poland. Maybe that's why this dish was called "bigos" in the layout. It was a stewed cabbage with the addition of a certain amount of lard and carrots. It smells like silage, tastes like electrolyte.

    our ensign actually worked miracles, received and unloaded lamb carcasses into warehouses, and besides boiled lard, there was nothing else in the meat diet for all 2 years he served in Taganrog
  57. 0
    7 November 2014 19: 11
    Quote: Alex_Popovson
    Bigus - cabbage acid poison. The idea was to make up for the lack of vitamin C. A couple of times I saw and canned food with it. The abomination is crappy.


    Guys, you shouldn’t anger those who served in the 90s. For us, if there were more than three leaves of cabbage in a bigus, it was already a blessing. And there was no talk at all about canned food, herring, etc.
  58. hold_fast
    0
    9 November 2014 21: 39
    He served in Berdichev in the late 90s. Combined fat pancakes, millet and pea horror, fried herring - I still remember. Service is not sugar, but war is generally a scribe. 5M always said as a toast at any holiday: “The main thing is that there is no war, the rest is all bullshit.” I never thought that people were ZOMBIES, that it was so easy to turn brother against brother. How quickly the Russians forgot the first and second Chechen companies... how blind people are... The most terrible thing is the people in shoulder straps who attach their army, as a result of the needless deaths of the guys. Sorry, it's boiling...
  59. 0
    10 November 2014 16: 37
    As I understand it, this was written by an employee of that same brigade.
    here is a link to the full topic http://alternathistory.org.ua/uroki-i-vyvody-grazhdanskoi-voiny-na-ukraine
    Published by waldemaar08 on Mon, 10/11/2014 - 10:27.
    I understand that I need to unsubscribe from this post...

    Let's go point by point.




    LOGISTICS. I wouldn’t call it a complete failure. In my opinion, failure in logistics is only where the rear people are. Where the deputy in the rear thinks not about his pocket, but about business, there are no problems. I can say from my unit and 95th. We have everything and in quantities exceeding the needs. Therefore, we share products both with the population and with checkpoints. Uniforms, ammunition, etc. are also in perfect order. There are objective isolated cases of interruptions in drinking water (it is impossible to drink tap water in the Donbass (although , perhaps this is our purely personal impression and “picks”, smiley) but this is not critical.
    PERSONNEL. It’s hard to say. At the level I’m at, and also taking into account the specifics, I can say that everything is pretty good. It’s hard to say about the high command. I think I agree with the author.
    FIGHTING SPIRIT. There are some difficulties, but let’s say that l/s are ready to fight against Caucasians with great zeal. That’s why people are often told that they are Chechens in front of them and then problems do not arise. Against the Slavs, naturally, there is no special zeal. Zeal comes from anger in the event of losses But I can assess the general level of morale among the units I encountered as quite high. I did not observe decadence or defeatism.
    POPULATION SUPPORT. This is also ambiguous. As I already noted, support from the population is inversely proportional to the time the militias were present and the brutality of the battles. For example, in Slavyansk they treat us well and support us (although this primarily applies to my unit and 95th. Towards others, I must admit, worse. But they behave accordingly) But in Konstantinovka they looked at us as occupiers. Therefore, I cannot draw an unambiguous conclusion about support or non-support. The only thing I want to note is that how you treat people, so will they to you (in the same Konstantinovka we were able to change the attitude towards ourselves; but again only towards our unit. Those whom we accompanied may have only become a little less hated. But this is their fault and their system of behavior.)
    INFORMATION WAR. In my opinion, it’s a draw. Both of them lie recklessly, which completely undermined their credibility. I think that no one takes the “news” of the media seriously.

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