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How much does a soul cost?

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I have been a reader of “VO” since about May, but only now I decided to register and post my thoughts about what is happening in Ukraine and in Russia, because I can’t be silent.

I carefully follow the news, both from the Russian and Ukrainian sides. I read various analysts, agree with something, with something - no. Someone considers what is happening from the point of view of the "party of peace" ("plum"), someone from the point of view of the "party of war".

I have my own point of view. I look at everything that is happening in Ukraine and the reflection of this in Russia with the eyes of an Orthodox person.

Everything that happens there, in Ukraine, is a great test not only for Ukrainians, but also for Russians. This is a great "test for lice" for us.

Residents of Ukraine are completely insane, and this is a consequence of not only propaganda, but also targeted real-life zombies. There was an article about psychotronic weapon and how the Russian journalist has changed, having moved to Ukraine. Most users of the portal have chosen to throw mud at it together, accusing of corruption. I did not comment on anything then, but I also think that she is a victim of the impact, and she can only sympathize with her.

Someone made an interesting montage of the chronicles of Ukraine and the frames of the film “Inhabited Island”, created after the work of the brilliant Strugatsky brothers.



But just the other day, an interview was taken, taken from I. I. Strelkov by Marat Musin, where Strelkov personally confirmed that Ukraine has the strongest effect on consciousness: "Ukrainian TV channels, in particular, 5 channel, use the methods of NLP. Long viewing of Ukrainian TV channels made me feel that I oppose the "Ukrainian people" and am a terrorist. For a convinced person like me, this is simply not normal. Used direct impact. I do not know which technology was used - either a specially constructed text, or an 25 frame, but what it was was unequivocal. And not only I felt this impact. Many militiamen, if they watched Ukrainian television for a long time, lost their motivation to fight. "



I think the words of a man who was at the epicenter of events cannot be trusted.

So, let us take for granted that there is such an impact on the consciousness of the people of Ukraine.

Speaking figuratively, Ukraine can be compared with an obstructed family member, who every day behaves more and more inadequately, and now he broke the glass, took a fragment in his hands and pokes this fragment on his body, unkindly glancing at the rest of the family.

The question is, what next?

You can go the hard way, try to twist it, put on a straitjacket, inject a sedative and start long and difficult to treat it. And you can close the room alone with yourself and a piece of glass, hoping that "it will resolve itself somehow."

Today, Ukraine is the greatest test for Russia and the Russians. This is a test for the worst sin - betrayal!

To leave people under the rule of the Nazis, under the continuous zombie influence, is to betray them. These are our people, let them in the craze and forget about it, among them there are a lot of our relatives and friends, who in anger denied us.

Some people, the personification of which is Strelkov, say that it is necessary to reach Kiev and destroy these conventional “towers”. It is a difficult path, it is a path of pain, suffering and deprivation, but it is a righteous path.

Others say that it is necessary to “come to an agreement”, and it is important for Gazprom to keep its gas contracts in Europe.

What can you negotiate with the Nazis? In 1939, they also thought that they had agreed on everything. In 1941, a war began that brought innumerable sacrifices and destruction. Is memory really so short?

About gas contracts. According to open data, gas was exported to 2013 in the far and near foreign countries (excluding Belarus and Kazakhstan) in the amount of $ 67,232 billion.

On the calculator, I divided this amount by 143 million of the population of Russia. It turned out about 47 US dollars for each. This is the price of betrayal.

I have nothing against Gazprom and its business. But still there are things higher than cut paper.

Perhaps, it is necessary not only to think about your stomach, but also to think about your soul? For all sooner or later have to pay.

Obama once said that Russia is on the wrong side stories. In fact, we are on the TOE side, while we are going through a difficult but righteous way. This is the path of Goodness, the path of overcoming the difficulties, sanctions, and other essentially worldly nonsense for the salvation of one’s neighbor (the Ukrainian people) and for the salvation of one’s own soul.

To betray the people of Ukraine, leaving her under the Nazis-is the path of evil. It means switching to NOT THAT side of the story, selling your soul for 47 US dollars.
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  1. Wolka
    Wolka 5 November 2014 08: 52
    +29
    zombie the population of Ukraine by the media is a fact ...
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 5 November 2014 09: 12
      +7
      No wonder that the curators of the Ukrainian junta from across the ocean, and they are great masters in the mass impact on the psyche of people.
      1. GRAMARI111
        GRAMARI111 5 November 2014 09: 39
        +3


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        1. WKS
          WKS 5 November 2014 11: 55
          +1
          Prolonged viewing of Ukrainian TV channels made me feel that I am against the "Ukrainian people" and that I am a terrorist. For a convinced person like me, this is simply not normal. Direct impact was used. I do not know what specific technology was used - either a specially constructed text, or the 25th frame, but what it was is unambiguous. And not only I felt this impact. Many militias, if they watched Ukrainian television for a long time, lost their motivation to fight. "
          The 25th frame is a newspaper duck. 70% of people are susceptible to suggestion and can be easily hypnotized. Maybe the author's "conviction" is explained precisely by the fact that he belongs to these 70%.
          1. Velikoruss
            Velikoruss 5 November 2014 14: 29
            +2
            The newspaper duck about the 25th frame was launched to discredit the effect with this name in the minds of ordinary people. Video zombie technologies work even more efficiently than audio zombies, it's just that they push the "herd" about the 25th frame far from real technology.
            By the way, the fact that Germany became the first country in the world in which regular television broadcasting was organized was due to the efforts of the Minister of Propaganda Dr. Goebbels, who believed that the same phrase in the heads of different people does not necessarily form the same images, and he wished that the given concrete images would be brought to the Germans consciousness. The basis of such a desire is the fact that through the visual channel a person receives about 90% of information about the world around him. Even a simple translation of the video sequence in a given way effectively affects the majority of the population, and even more so if it is processed taking into account the characteristics of human psychophysics. Even on conditionally unsuspected, which among people are also quite a lot. The most effective is LITERALLY disable television transponders (towers) - the brains of zombies self-clean for a period of time from a week to a month.
            1. Ataman
              Ataman 5 November 2014 15: 05
              +2
              It is not necessary to treat the Ukrainian disease, but to eliminate its cause, which lies beyond the Atlantic. This is exactly what Russia is doing. Suppose hegemon, all infected themselves quickly heal.
              1. bda
                bda 5 November 2014 19: 23
                +1
                The reason is not overseas. The author is right - the reason is in us. The Holy Fathers said more than once: "The enemy is not strong, but we are weak." And overseas just jackals wanting to profit from the weak. And the weaker we are, the more active and brazen these creatures will behave. And the reason for our weakness, including in the idea of ​​a recent holiday (or rather in its weak actual implementation), is the lack of unity.
                Even in the case of direct military confrontation of countries of disparate combat potential, history knows almost no examples when a small but internally united state, defending itself, was defeated by a much larger and stronger one. But there are as many reverse examples as you like - from Afghans and Gurks, already at the end of the XNUMXth century, carving armies to the teeth of the British with just knives, to Vietnam and the Sandinista Nicaragua (where, by the way, Daniel Ortega, the leader of the Sandinist partisans, is again in power).

                about $ 47 each. This is the price of betrayal.


                But even these US $ 47 do not reach the majority of our fellow citizens anyway, and, for the most part, these "pieces of silver for betrayal" end up in the pockets of those who order a hysteria on our copper field on the topic: "We must be pragmatic! Conflicting with the West over Ukraine is more expensive! We are obliged (!) to provide Ukraine with gas so as not to create problems in trade with Europe! " etc."
                1. velikoros-xnumx
                  velikoros-xnumx 6 November 2014 18: 28
                  0
                  Quote: bda
                  about $ 47 each. This is the price of betrayal. But even these 47 US $ do not reach the majority of our fellow citizens anyway, and, for the most part, these "silver coins for betrayal" settle in the pockets of those who order a hysteria on our copper field on the topic: " pragmatic! We cannot conflict over Ukraine with the West - we are more expensive! We are obliged (!) to provide Ukraine with gas so as not to create problems in trade with Europe! " etc."


                  To be precise, not $ 47, but $ 470. Although this does not change the essence of the article.
                2. velikoros-xnumx
                  velikoros-xnumx 6 November 2014 18: 28
                  0
                  Quote: bda
                  about $ 47 each. This is the price of betrayal. But even these 47 US $ do not reach the majority of our fellow citizens anyway, and, for the most part, these "silver coins for betrayal" settle in the pockets of those who order a hysteria on our copper field on the topic: " pragmatic! We cannot conflict over Ukraine with the West - we are more expensive! We are obliged (!) to provide Ukraine with gas so as not to create problems in trade with Europe! " etc."


                  To be precise, not $ 47, but $ 470. Although this does not change the essence of the article.
      2. Leviton
        Leviton 5 November 2014 09: 39
        +8
        The main thing is that any path will be bad .... You will not support the east of the country "U" - betrayed the brothers who believed you ... Help the east - for the rest U - you are an imperialist power imposing "your order", you will behave like a humanist and send help needy .... - not decisive, at this time Ukro-media and information fighters will wrap up events to please themselves and against us .... So there is no simple and affordable way. You will not close "this child with glass" in a separate room, the European integrators will whisper to him how to hold the shard correctly. Perhaps it is really better to act according to the Strugatskys ... to slowly and surely introduce "Correct" thoughts into the consciousness. But I know (feel) for sure that this is the only way to return the world. to close the "child" in the room is not an option, he is not a reasonable child, but the windows and "good neighbors" will do what you did not want to do ... so only a dialogue from the cycle: What else bothers you ?, do you want to talk about it ? .....
        1. Leviton
          Leviton 5 November 2014 09: 59
          +2
          And "fencing off" the problem leads to the opposite effect, and this can be seen in the very side of "U" _ the prohibition of Russian films and TV leads to the opposite - people want to watch them, even those who would not watch, Slavs need to understand themselves, but for that they were turned off ...-) well, we are arranged so that we need to figure it out ourselves lol
          1. WKS
            WKS 5 November 2014 12: 15
            +1
            Quote: LevITon
            the ban on Russian films and TV leads to the opposite - people want to watch them

            The forbidden fruit is always sweet. This truth is known from Adam. A classic example, during the Soviet era, a lot of people listened to the enemy voices through the noise of jammers with excitement.
        2. fedok
          fedok 5 November 2014 11: 15
          +1
          The Strugatskys ... hmmm ... OZ or forty years later ... Something tells me that not only the country "U", but also the country "R" - we are all burdened by Evil.
        3. revnagan
          revnagan 5 November 2014 12: 08
          0
          Quote: LevITon
          Help the east - for the rest of you - you are an imperialist power imposing "your own order"

          Dear, you are confusing concepts. The question is HOW to help. Do not do the work FOR the residents of the Southeast, and throughout Ukraine. They need to help themselves. Help needs resources (which Russia does, thanks a lot). Help create the superiority of the self-defense forces over the junta, after which the army of the Southeast will be able to liberate neighboring territories. Believe me, people from these territories will replenish the forces of resistance. Thus, the Ukrainians themselves will fight for freedom from the Nazis, instead of uncle INSTEAD of them, everything will be simple and clear.
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    3. APES
      APES 5 November 2014 09: 23
      +7
      How much does a soul cost?


      A few quotes from the teacher:

      "How much will a man pay for his soul?"
      "What is the use of a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?"

      I look at everything that happens with the look of an Orthodox person.


      what is happening in Ukraine? what kind of forces have come, got power there? what do they destroy? and the most important question: why was this possible?

      In my opinion, many people have forgotten about the most important thing, let "EVIL" into their hearts, and received the embodiment of all antihuman evil in their lives, and this can be attributed in many respects to the Russian Federation, but "the gates of hell will not prevail against it"

      Are these people to blame? - on the one who seduced guilt more. from this the truth is not easier ...

      How to help them? it is impossible to be cute by force, and no one has canceled free will.
      one can help, perhaps only, proceeding from Orthodoxy, however pathetic it may sound - it is LOVE THEM, love in spite of everything, probably this is the salvation of them and us ...

      To betray the people of Ukraine


      what kind of people? What kind of Ukraine? answer these questions.

      my answer is: this is my people, this is my land, and this is a war against me and all that is dear to me ......
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 5 November 2014 09: 49
        +3
        Since we are talking about the soul ... I do not understand why the ROC is silent? Where is the shepherd’s weighty word? Why didn’t we hear a single sermon of the Patriarch to Ukrainians killing each other?
        The patriarch should be there at such an hour. Someone will say that there will be provocations. Yes they will. But does this mean that the Church must silently look at all the atrocities that are happening there? The fact that the souls of people are being killed from her flock.
        1. APES
          APES 5 November 2014 10: 24
          +4
          Quote: sergey32
          Why is the ROC silent?


          Who told you that he was silent?

          Quote: sergey32
          Where is the shepherd’s weighty word?


          have you been in a temple for a long time?

          Quote: sergey32
          The patriarch should be there at such an hour.


          no comment, but ...........

          Quote: sergey32
          silently watch


          where is Strelkov collecting help for the Donbass?


          Dear Sergey32, a question for you: Are you baptized?
        2. Casablanca
          Casablanca 5 November 2014 12: 09
          +2
          no need to blame the Patriarch and the Russian Orthodox Church for inaction. Do you go to church services every Sunday that the Patriarch serves and don’t hear from him sermons aimed at resolving the conflict? Or how do you know that he does not do them? And people cannot be cured by sermons and the situation cannot be changed. Since we are talking about Orthodoxy, we must fight evil (wars, epidemics) as in the good old Orthodox times - fasting, prayer, religious processions, etc. And not only for the Patriarch, but also for the whole people who consider themselves Orthodox.
        3. WKS
          WKS 5 November 2014 12: 40
          +2
          Quote: sergey32
          The patriarch should be there at such an hour.

          Maybe another rifle battalion of Orthodox monks and priests to create?
        4. RV-83
          RV-83 5 November 2014 14: 45
          +4
          Dear Sergei, you simply do not have information, but at the same time you are in a hurry to indiscriminately accuse the Russian Orthodox Church of inaction, without bothering to walk to the nearest church, go there to the Department of Mercy (and there is one in almost any parish) and ask about his work, at the same time bring assistance to refugees, which is collected and distributed there. On the TV channels "Soyuz", "Spas" and "Blagovest", for example, since the beginning of the Ukrainian crisis, you would also find many refutations of your words about how the Church is "silent" The fact that the Church does not have its own platform for direct appeals through the central federal channels (but which sound on Soyuz, Spas, Blagovest, Orthodox sites and forums, regional church television and Internet channels), then This is clearly not the Church's fault, but the information policy of these very channels with continuous bazaar talk shows, the same type of stupid melodramas and entertainment. And the Church will not bring them any profit here, unlike all this.
          This is all about the question of "silence." As for the Patriarch himself, then you, apparently, are not aware that he has already sought a visit several times, but he was told that "they did not guarantee his safety" and made it clear that he was simply Metropolitan Hilarion was recently deployed at the Ukrainian airport, although he arrived on a private visit at the funeral of an archbishop, his longtime friend. And such examples have already accumulated enough from the news of central channels.
          Therefore, one should not blame the Church for silence and inaction, without bothering to find out about the real state of affairs not on the couch, but in the Church itself (in this case, as a public body).
          PSBesides other things, many coordinators of assistance to militias and refugees (including Strelkov) advise to send help through church collection points, because, unfortunately, many scammers appeared.
          Regards R.V.
        5. forester
          forester 5 November 2014 19: 54
          0
          Quote: sergey32
          Since we are talking about the soul ... I do not understand why the ROC is silent? Where is the shepherd’s weighty word? Why didn’t we hear a single sermon of the Patriarch to Ukrainians killing each other?
          The patriarch should be there at such an hour. Someone will say that there will be provocations. Yes they will. But does this mean that the Church must silently look at all the atrocities that are happening there? The fact that the souls of people are being killed from her flock.

          The ROC is not headed by a clergyman, but first of all I watch the merchant on TV in his eyes there is no sanctity in them, only the cunning of the ROC huckster has long turned into a commercial structure with fixed tariffs for free, only water could be dialed like that in the church - he left in fury - infuriated the price list for services local priest (hung on the wall) so that "from each according to his ability" is supposed to be with the device.
          1. battery
            battery 6 November 2014 02: 37
            0
            duty-free vodka with tobacco, let’s remember from behind a hillock, representative-class geldings in Gelendzhik (several dozen lyamas) watch 250000 in conditional raccoons, baptismal services are chargeable and more. For now they’ll yell, you’re baptized, yes you’ll ... NO no I’m baptized. I don’t want to have anything to do with the merchants who have brought the temple and faith in the bazaar. Tell me, did John the Baptist take even a penny for Jesus’s baptism? Remember Jesus driving the merchants out of the temple, about not making an idol and an icon? and for a snack: Come to your house, kneel alone, raise your thoughts to God and may he hear you revelation from John. The conclusion of the modern church has the same relation to Vera as the banana crop in Costa Rica to the penguin population
      2. WKS
        WKS 5 November 2014 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: APES
        my answer is: this is my people, this is my land, and this is a war against me and all that is dear to me ......

        I would add that this is a war of the West, this is his aggression, this is fooled by the money of our people in Ukraine, and in Russia too, it is he who is trying to split the Russian world into hostile parts. The West disguises all these hostile actions as friendly, but in reality it is a war where only Russian people shed blood (so far !!!).
    4. GRAMARI111
      GRAMARI111 5 November 2014 09: 37
      +5


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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 5 November 2014 10: 01
      +23
      The same fact as zombies on Russian TV. Continuous hangouts of zvizduns, jokes below the belt, animated cartoons from there, dubious series, fucking advertisements, illiterate broadcasters, replacement of Russian speech, etc., you will not list all. But there are honest transfers. Therefore, in the heads of porridge.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 5 November 2014 12: 56
        +1
        The same fact as zombies on Russian TV. Continuous hangouts of zvizduns, jokes below the belt, animated cartoons from there, dubious series, fucking advertisements, illiterate broadcasters, replacement of Russian speech, etc., you will not list all. But there are honest transfers. Therefore, in the heads of porridge.


        And you, excuse me, no one forces you to watch "parties of zvizdunov", cartoons from there, etc. blizzard. Watch Soviet films, cartoons "Masha and the Bear" or Smeshariki, switch when the "news series" is on. And then you are not afraid of any zombie.
    7. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 5 November 2014 10: 03
      +4
      A good article, the right thoughts, the right words to express these thoughts ... The author is right: it’s impossible to convince zombies, only by eliminating the cause, you can deal with the consequences of its impact on people.
    8. Mahmut
      Mahmut 5 November 2014 10: 25
      +6
      But it seems to me that the betrayal of ukrov began long before the use of psychotropic weapons to them. Here the author gave an example here from the history of 1939 and 1941 years. It’s not easier to give an example of 1945 year. For the sake of saving the world from the fascist plague, tens of millions of lives have been laid. The Nazis then destroyed. And fascism still lives and thrives. Because it is impossible to destroy ideology by force. Ideology is like a disease. She needs to be ill and develop immunity. Those who have not yet been infected should create an isolation ward for patients. He who does not die will be cured. And sacrifice their people, so that later they hang these hohlopitheks galloping around their necks. And then also listen to the theses about the endless and inexorable guilt of Russia before them. Oh well him in FIG.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 5 November 2014 12: 37
        +2
        Quote: Mahmut
        And then also listen to the theses about the endless and inexorable guilt of Russia before them. Oh well him in FIG.


        ... like the extremely filthy Georgian film "Repentance" ... in front of whom? banderlog?
      2. Constanta
        Constanta 5 November 2014 19: 55
        0
        Here, indeed, an ambiguous opinion is caused by the article.
        Well, to whom only the Soviet Union did not help - and so what ?! We constantly need someone and something. And at what cost we were cured of worship of Western clothes ... At the cost of an entire state - the USSR. No, my soul does not accept this article. And I believe in my soul. After all, she is also from God.
    9. pies
      pies 5 November 2014 10: 57
      0
      Who wanted to become a zombie he became one.
      1. WKS
        WKS 5 November 2014 12: 49
        +2
        Quote: pies
        Who wanted to become a zombie he became one.

        You are mistaken. Zombies become one who is subject to external suggestion.
    10. cyberhanter
      cyberhanter 5 November 2014 11: 37
      0
      I judge not from the position of an Orthodox person, but from the side of a Pan-Slavist ... and I don’t know) I myself am not Russian, but with a Russian mentality) I probably rather favor the unity of the Russian world. Ukraine should be ours, but ours not by capture, but by our minds. it's complicated, but it's monjo. And anyone who talks about victory, if we disconnect the Donbass from Ukraine, does not understand that we will lose the rest of Ukraine completely.
      1. WKS
        WKS 5 November 2014 12: 54
        +3
        Quote: cyberhanter
        if we disconnect Donbass from Ukraine, it doesn’t understand that at the same time we are losing the rest of Ukraine completely.

        Donbass is like a seed for crystal formation. Around which the Russians will begin to gather their lands, and the intoxicated people will come to their senses.
      2. 97110
        97110 5 November 2014 15: 42
        0
        Quote: cyberhanter
        we lose
        Yaroslavl, Kronstadt, Central Asia ... Where else did the Red Army hurt us so much that we lost something forever? It is not a pity to lose such an infection as it is now in Ukraine. In the hope that the "partners" will find. And they will be happy. And Ukraine itself will not go anywhere - not a shovel with dollars, it will not fall out of your pocket.
    11. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 November 2014 13: 42
      -1
      So, let us take for granted that there is such an impact on the consciousness of the people of Ukraine.

      My friend, not all the same, the effect can be explained, or hypnosis, by mass psychosis.
      Here you are - a believer, an Orthodox person, you know that in the next world, when God asks for sins, for bad deeds in life, you will not be able to "pay off" referring to some kind of influence, demons, tempter, you will have to answer for what you have done, in full ...

      Some people, the personification of which is Strelkov, say that it is necessary to reach Kiev and destroy these conventional “towers”. It is a difficult path, it is a path of pain, suffering and deprivation, but it is a righteous path.

      Forgive me, but I don't see anything righteous in this. It is one thing to defend the Motherland, another thing to attack other people's territories, and teach them intelligence. They taught once, in 1941-45, are the Germans really grateful for that? or grateful to those who lived under the wing of the Warsaw Pact? Under the name of Salvation of "sinful" souls, Islam, and the crusades, and reconquest, and communism, and what ISIS is doing now, spread. When they say "the road to hell is paved with good intentions," they mean just that. Before bringing goodness, you need to ask them, do they need it?

      What can you negotiate with the Nazis? In 1939, they also thought that they had agreed on everything. In 1941, a war began that brought innumerable sacrifices and destruction. Is memory really so short?

      the memory is long, they know that there is nothing to negotiate with the Nazis, and therefore they ask all 5 billions, they are tired of lending.

      Perhaps, it is necessary not only to think about your stomach, but also to think about your soul? For all sooner or later have to pay.

      That’s just about this, of course I understand that all the oil belongs to the people of Russia, at one time the oligarchs took their hands on them, as if their grandfather left them for personal use, but now a large share in the hands of the state, and it cares about people (I hope so), but then you have to pay debts ?!
      I don’t know how in Christianity, although there is no steal, but in Islam, the duty to live at someone else’s expense is a terrible sin. When a person dies, the mullah asks the audience: Did the deceased have debts? if they say - Yes, then the relatives are obligated to pay, otherwise, his soul will go straight to hell. Does the people of Ukraine have different views on life? don’t ... fool you will not live? I think not, so they should pay. This is just fair. Both from the side of religion, and from the side of earthly laws prescribed in the constitution, mutual agreements, and other pieces of paper. Therefore, Ukrainians should not think about their stomachs, but it’s better to pay debts and live honestly. Then perhaps the soul will go to heaven. As for sadak (alms), it is usually given to the have-nots, voluntarily, and the oligarchs in power in Kiev, judging by the cheeks, are not very poor. Moreover, we know that the USA and Europe supply them. But with this money they continue the war.
    12. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 November 2014 13: 42
      +2
      To betray the people of Ukraine, leaving her under the Nazis-is the path of evil. It means switching to NOT THAT side of the story, selling your soul for 47 US dollars.

      These words should be said to you right in the Verkhovna Rada, in Kiev, in the person of Poroshenko, Turchinov, Yatsenyuk ?! What do you want from the Russian people?

      You really don’t understand who is moving the levers? Aren't those whom I named? For the sake of money, for the sake of revenge or some other bad purpose, they all this time, all 23 of the year, set the Ukrainian people against the Russians, against their own history and common culture with the Russians, for the sake of the European Union, a good life, and after that you blame what the Russians think about food? about the animal? You are just crazy! Tell me, are you from Ukraine? why I ask, your logic is somewhat different, so you talked about psychotropic weapons, I think you yourself fell under its influence.
      What did the Russian people do all 23 of the year? Survived! after betrayal in the Bialowieza Forest, the people were destitute, beaten up, if the national republics of the former Soviet Union were surrendered to themselves, then big Russia almost broke itself into small republics, and there was such a threat after the victory in the first Chechen bandits In other areas, they began to sow confusion, the crisis of the 98, the fall of the ruble, all the country's resources in the hands of the oligarchs, inflated prices, no social services, the army in collapse, the people in poverty, everything went to this, to the collapse of the country, to its fall into the abyss, with a point of no return. only a firm and powerful hand bestowed from above saved the thousand-year history of Russia from suicide. And now its restoration is taking place, and believe me, Russian people don’t need someone else’s problems, some kind of gains, revanchist sentiments as Americans put it, Putin would still have to master the taiga, and he is right! need to recover, to survive. There are only wolves around ... and the jackal is shallow. Putin does not need us to tell someone else, and he is right again, but he won’t give up his bear, that’s fair. So the Russian people, as there were no affairs for others, are still gone, because they have enough of their own problems, bring the people together into a common idea, and build the future.
      And I wish the Ukrainian people to grow up, and MYSELF to get out of the problem and not look for those responsible for others. They managed to make the Maidan, and I think their freedom will also be recaptured from the villains in power.
      1. 97110
        97110 5 November 2014 15: 48
        +1
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        What did the Russian people do for 23 years? Survived! after betrayal in the Bialowieza Forest, the people were destitute, with a broken trough

        Very correct! Why forget about it? Someone in their youth, and someone in the hope that it will be possible to bring poison of doubt into young souls.
    13. Denis fj
      Denis fj 5 November 2014 19: 59
      0
      Soon an old friend and helper of the Russian Land will come - WINTER! Everything will fall into place, friends and enemies will appear.
  2. fomkin
    fomkin 5 November 2014 08: 52
    +24
    I served in Ukraine for several years — they have always been like that.
    1. RBLip
      RBLip 5 November 2014 09: 08
      +7
      Quote: fomkin
      I served in Ukraine for several years, they have always been like that

      were .... now it’s only gotten worse ...
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 5 November 2014 17: 40
        +1
        Quote: RBLip
        were .... now it’s only gotten worse ...


        Back in 1954 he was in Stryu, Lviv and Mukachevo. Yes, they were exactly like Yarosh, Tyagnibok and Parubiy only stealthily and not in full voice. There is no way to fix such talk - only surgically.
    2. Oleg NSK
      Oleg NSK 5 November 2014 09: 14
      +2
      always been like that

      ... absolutely agree ... they do not need to be zombied ...
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    4. Goodmen
      Goodmen 5 November 2014 10: 17
      +1
      Quote: fomkin
      I served in Ukraine for several years — they have always been like that.


      What are they? If in the western part, I can believe it. They treated the mos ... m coolly, and the center and the southeast were not "like that", not p ... di.
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      2. Oleg NSK
        Oleg NSK 5 November 2014 10: 44
        +1
        Which ones?


        ... with the mentality of a prostitute ... there were and are ... you don't believe, go talk to them ... yes, even on the South Coast (they have not gone anywhere from Crimea) ... their main thought is "That we ... sho Ukrainians, sho Russians ... if only they carried grandmas "(personally heard and more than once)
        ... go talk, you’ll understand ... and if you don’t understand, I'm sorry ... you diagnosed yourself

        P.S. ... in general, an article about the value of the soul ... whoever does not understand, it has no price ... but for whom it has ... read above
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen 5 November 2014 11: 40
          +1
          Quote: Oleg NSK
          yes, even on the South Coast (they have not gone anywhere from the Crimea) ... their main idea is "That to us ... sho Ukrainians, sho Russians ... if only they carried grandmas" (I personally heard it more than once)


          listen, smart guy, so they "hit money" during the season)))) there is nowhere else ...

          And to the phrase "That we sho Ukrainians, sho Russians" need to be philosophical and understanding)))))
          they, unlike you, do not make a difference)))))

          Well, what is your diagnosis if you yourself do not understand what you are writing? )))))))
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      4. 97110
        97110 5 November 2014 15: 53
        +1
        Quote: Goodmen
        southeast - was not "like that", not p ... di.

        Where then the phrase "Mos-kali usyo zyily" will not prompt? This is Donetsk, the traders told us damned people. When we went to Ukraine, which fed the whole of Russia, we came to buy food. From Rostov.
        1. Goodmen
          Goodmen 6 November 2014 10: 38
          +1
          Quote: 97110
          Where then the phrase "Mos-kali usyo zyily" will not prompt?


          Egegey ... please don't be confused !!! but as throughout the RSFSR, and then Russia on the Muscovites who "truncated zyly" looked? Have you forgotten the "sausage" trains to Moscow?

          So, it is not the "Donetsk hucksters" who are to blame, but our authorities.
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    6. Petrix
      Petrix 5 November 2014 12: 49
      0
      Quote: fomkin
      I served in Ukraine for several years — they have always been like that.

      The question is what to do about it? How to make them better?
      It is easy to say "they are to blame". But this disease will not stop and will come deeper into Russia until people learn to recognize the shortcomings in themselves and improve themselves.
      If people in Russia cannot understand how to cure Ukraine, Russia can be crushed in the same way.
      1. Constanta
        Constanta 5 November 2014 20: 08
        0
        How to make them better?

        You cannot make another person better. Only life itself teaches everyone - sweat, blood, mistakes ... There is no other way.
  3. ILYA M
    ILYA M 5 November 2014 08: 56
    +4
    According to the article: If Everything Was So Simple ...
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 5 November 2014 08: 57
    +22
    The author got a little lost. On the one hand, gas, on the other Novorossiya. What to do ??? Block the gas and start a full-scale invasion, or something else ???
    And about the 25 frame, this bullshit has long been dispelled. If you watch news on TV every day, then a person will perceive reality as it is shown on TV. And without any frames.
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 5 November 2014 09: 35
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And about frame 25, this bullshit has long been dispelled.
      I have other information. Why then is its use prohibited by the laws of a number of countries? They dispelled the myth that if a quickly flashing picture is inserted into a random information context, then its content has an inspiring effect on the viewer. But techniques for optimizing the context through such pictures, I think, are being developed. In other words: who proved that the "25th frame" is bullshit, regardless of where in the video stream it is inserted and how the information of the "25th frame" relates to the information of the video stream? The 25th frame is put in quotation marks, since today digital technologies make it easy to vary this parameter too.
      1. Spnsr
        Spnsr 5 November 2014 11: 48
        0
        Quote: Stanislav
        25th frame p

        makes a psychopath, he doesn’t inspire anything, but prevents him from concentrating, which unbalances, causes anxiety ... attempts to concentrate, even after turning off the video, look aggressive, but without a certain focus ...
        there is only the possibility to assume that after removing a person from balance, regardless of the material viewed, give direction to aggression ...
        only the degree of impact of the frame can cause doubts, one thing is disturbing, but to break the personality, I don’t think that it is capable, although zombies take place in schools, where they are doing nothing, and in the company, and on TV, and at home ...
        here 25 frames are not necessary ...
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 5 November 2014 12: 37
          0
          "25th frame" is like the blinking of a light bulb for Pavlov's dog in order to control its physiological processes. I.P. Pavlov was awarded the Nobel Prize in the physiology of digestion, but not because, I believe, that it is important for the digestion of dogs, but because the sitmul changes the behavior of the dog and gives hope that human behavior can be controlled like the behavior of a trained dog. Look at what various large awards are given to psychologists, everything belongs to the field of little-recognized processes and unconscious factors when making a decision. But in order not to drive a wave of brainwashing, it is awarded not in psychology, but mainly in economics. The 1978 Nobel Prize in Economics was awarded to the American sociologist and educator G. Simon "for his innovative research of decision-making in economic organizations." In 2002, the Nobel Prize in Economics was awarded to the Israeli-American psychologist D. Kahneman - "for the application of psychological methods in economics, especially in the study of the formation of judgments and decision-making under conditions of uncertainty." You might ask, psychology is becoming a "science" of how to imperceptibly influence a person's decision, and in fact - the art of deception.
      2. gridasov
        gridasov 5 November 2014 14: 15
        0
        If you know, the Germans in the camps practiced a completely different methodology for changing consciousness. And it is fundamentally different from Smirnov's methodology. Moreover, Smirnov returned to German. I think this topic should not be developed. But one thing can be said that the "herd" is easier to manage than separate free-thinking individuals. Frame 25 has an effect, and this is without a doubt, but its effect extends to completely weak psyches. And there are more and more of them.
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 5 November 2014 08: 57
    +4
    But still there are things higher than cut paper.
    This would be understood by everyone, otherwise loot is more important for many who call themselves Russians than conscience, justice ...
  6. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 5 November 2014 08: 57
    +6
    "Is the memory so short?"

    Judging by what is happening in the world, the memory really turned out to be short.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 November 2014 09: 04
      +2
      Quote: B.T.W.
      "Is the memory so short?"

      Judging by what is happening in the world, the memory really turned out to be short.

      the memory is not short! they are selective, here we play, we don’t play here, here we’re slammed with fish, we’ll skip it ... request
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 5 November 2014 09: 23
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        they are selective, here we play, we don’t play here, here we’re slammed with fish, we miss it.


        It may be that the Americans are selective, because they did not feel all the "charms" of fascism on their own skin. And Japan, that "selectively" forgot who bombed its cities with atomic bombs, or did it have enough memory for exactly the number of generations who were participants and witnesses of those events ???
        "Those who do not remember their past are doomed to repeat it over and over again."
        Right now we are observing this.
  7. Loner_53
    Loner_53 5 November 2014 08: 59
    +3
    Dear author of you +
    At the expense of zombies, there is also our omission. They spoiled the way, or didn’t want to see what was going on there. hi
    our Russian maybe?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 5 November 2014 09: 05
      +2
      Quote: Loner_53
      Dear author of you +
      At the expense of zombies, there is also our omission. They spoiled the way, or didn’t want to see what was going on there. hi
      our Russian maybe?

      By the way, yes! otherwise they didn’t see what was being cooked there? Waited for when it will be ready? well done! am
  8. shishakova
    shishakova 5 November 2014 08: 59
    +4
    Thanks, Author! Of course, you are right, but how can Russia invade Ukraine?
    I think that the Russian Soul will win, but how - the next generation will know it))
  9. Siberian
    Siberian 5 November 2014 09: 00
    +7
    The recent elections in Ukraine show that most of the population is not zombied, but intimidated. To organize such a number of people is simply impossible (by definition): try to assemble a meeting of residents in your own entrance from 50-60 apartments. Any Maidan needs organizers, leaders and support. This does not happen at once, it is a tedious and painstaking work. Now even the mass sabotage of everything in a row that is being undertaken by the authorities will not help (so far they have in their hands punitive opportunities). We, with our help, are aggressors with imperial manners, so our help is to those who ask for it themselves. In reality, only the volunteer army of NOVorossia can now intervene, taking advantage of an unclear position - and the people there are local - Ukrainian and are no longer subordinate to the government of this very outskirts. And we - to help this army in every way.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 November 2014 09: 01
    0
    Perhaps, it is necessary not only to think about your stomach, but also to think about your soul? For all sooner or later have to pay.

    In this part, I agree with the author. Sooner or later, but you have to pay for what you have done. And you must always think about the soul.
  11. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 5 November 2014 09: 01
    +7
    did not understand from the article: what does the author suggest? what he stated is a simple statement of the facts that we already know. what does it mean to betray the Ukrainians-to send troops and clean up everything to hell from the border-to the border? or "cure" these distraught people remotely, through the media? but then you must first destroy all Nazi mass media in Ukraine ... which again brings us back to the first option! request In general, the cry of the soul and no specific proposals. what
  12. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 5 November 2014 09: 03
    +3
    "This is a test for the worst sin - betrayal!"
    Betrayal, in my opinion, is an ambiguous concept ... And who actually was the first to embark on the path of betrayal ?! And, what is Russia supposed to do during this test so as not to be convicted of betrayal ?!
    1. Owl27
      Owl27 5 November 2014 11: 13
      +1
      Well, yes, they are poor zombie, sick, unhappy, do not understand anything ----- and we are traitors in Russia !!?
  13. chinararem
    chinararem 5 November 2014 09: 04
    +2
    Zombies are being carried out in them, and in other countries. "Mass media" are means of influencing the masses. If you want to have objective information, do not dwell on one source: looked at Russian sites, switched to Ukrainian ones, then looked at Anglo-Saxon ones. There is a sea of ​​news channels. It is necessary not to boil over and calmly analyze the information. And in what the author is right - it is a sin to sell the soul of the people for gas money. This is not why the guys died near Slavyansk and Kramatorsk, and now they are not dying for hydrocarbons at the Donetsk airport.
  14. Moore
    Moore 5 November 2014 09: 05
    +2
    You can go the hard way, try to twist it, put on a straitjacket, inject a sedative and start long and difficult to treat it. And you can close the room alone with yourself and a piece of glass, hoping that "it will resolve itself somehow."

    Everything seems to be correct, but here's the trouble: the "family member" who had gone completely crazy yesterday had persistently argued to the "family" twenty years earlier that he was not a relative of her, that he hated and despised this very "family".
    And the "family" endured, fed, helped. But now the "psycho" has become really dangerous. Therefore, from the point of view of the present moment, the option "leave in the room" does not seem so wrong.
    And the "family" also read about Taras Bulba and his sons at one time. And he knows one more way how to deal with a "family member" who has gone crazy ...
  15. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 5 November 2014 09: 08
    0
    To betray the people of Ukraine, leaving her under the Nazis-is the path of evil. It means switching to NOT THAT side of the story, selling your soul for 47 US dollars.

    The author of the article ascertains the facts that the people of Ukraine are zombied and opposed to the Russian People, that they cannot be abandoned, betrayed, but dear author, where are your specific suggestions on how to save the people who hate you to the point of insanity, it seems to me that such a people can not be saved but if a respected author wishes to try to bring light, good in the hearts of dill, he and the flag in his hands.
  16. domokl
    domokl 5 November 2014 09: 12
    +10
    I carefully read the article. Usually, plus or minus does not cause any particular problems. And here ... Everything seems to be right, everything seems to be on the case and the movie is well-built. I looked with pleasure (to the author a separate plus), but ...
    If everything is so simple, if people are not to blame, if these towers are to blame, then what about the partisans? What about those who live in Ukraine but don’t skip? How to deal with Ukrainians and not dill?
    We really are now checking for lice ... Someone, like Banshee, for example, tears his veins to help militias. Someone, having left a peaceful life in his hometown, makes his way to New Russia, takes a machine gun and stands at the forefront. It is even then when there is only one left ... And someone who was considered an idol, who urged not to bend under a changing world, someone who swore love for the Motherland from TV screens, who fed in Russia, showed their petty soul as a traitor ...
    I set it minus. I do not believe that Karbyshev, Musa Jalil and hundreds of thousands of Soviet people died in the Second World War just because they were not offered to be a bastard ... I do not believe that the militants die because the Colorado are stupid ... No, Dear author, you can zombie a person, but you can not zombify a people.
    1. saag
      saag 5 November 2014 10: 26
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      but you can’t zombify the people.

      It works with a TV, and not only with it, if there is a single source of information, then you can submit any information
      1. Petrix
        Petrix 5 November 2014 13: 25
        0
        Quote: saag
        if there is a single source of information, you can submit any information

        The fact of the matter is that there are always many sources of information, but we, because of laziness, prefer readily available ones. Although it is clear that the information excavated and cleared independently is much more truthful and valuable, but too lazy to move your brains.
        When there is a contradiction (it’s like a signal) you need not to be lazy and dig deeper.

        Here, the zombies of Ukrainians can be seen in full view. But what percentage of us began to think that, in essence, on a different level, we are also being zombified? And how many of us started digging information not on the topic of the latest TV news, but conducting our own investigation on any other topic? With the expansion of the possibility of zombies, the possibilities of independent growth also expand.
  17. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 5 November 2014 09: 13
    +7
    Eh heh, Orthodox :))
    Zombies are a consequence.
    The soul belongs to man, only no one knows the price of man.
    A nation not capable of a bright idea will always absorb all shit.
    It didn’t happen now.
    Remember, the Orthodox proverb: "I will not eat so much" ("When the crest was born, the Jew began to cry."
    Remember Shevchenko, his attempt to somehow reason with his fellow tribesmen.
    So everything is predictable.
    And just now, only the beginning is happening.
  18. Diter
    Diter 5 November 2014 09: 14
    +1
    The fact that the vast majority of the population of Ukraine has blown away is obvious. A lot of examples of how they began to hate their relatives living in Russia with fierce hatred. The behavior of rabid dogs - flowers in comparison with the behavior of punishers, far superior in their cruelty to the Nazis. Mercy should be shown to the victims, and not to the executioners, who kill not only the body, but also the soul.
  19. raid14
    raid14 5 November 2014 09: 14
    +2
    Even in the days of the Soviet Union, Ukrainians said that they were feeding the whole country, they ate all the fat. It may very well be that the so-called binaural stereo waves are used on Ukrainian TV and radio, which affect the brain activity of the population. The fact that the Ukrainian media process their population only with certain information, banning Russian channels, is not a secret for anyone, "water wears away a stone."
  20. MIV999
    MIV999 5 November 2014 09: 16
    +3
    According to open data, in 2013 gas was exported to countries of the far and near abroad (excluding Belarus and Kazakhstan) in the amount of $ 67,232 billion.

    On a calculator, I divided this amount into 143 million people in Russia. It turned out about 47 US dollars for each.

    Sorry, but I ended the mehmat ... The author made a mistake by an order of magnitude - that is, 10 times ... When dividing, it turns out 470 ... It is easy to check by multiplication ...
    But this is perhaps the only thing I disagree with in this article drinks
    PS. And for the video - a special gratitude ... Alas, it looks like it is
  21. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 5 November 2014 09: 17
    0
    In Ukraine, as something else with the Poles, they allowed a church schism. It turned out a ruin, i.e. The troubles that ended after the inhabitants of Little Russia returned to Orthodoxy. Now, too, a split, Filaret, Uniates and Prezik babtist
    ... And about. True, yes, what's the difference analogy.
  22. Grbear
    Grbear 5 November 2014 09: 18
    +1
    Yeah recourse ... Cutting from the film and the chronicle is not broken. This is one movie. I don’t presume to judge about the 25th frame, but the work of "fooling" has been done enormous. As Avicenna said, a disease is treated with medicine for the same amount of time as a person was sick. Or "surgery" ... Through the "dark room", hunger and cold. But there is a real danger of getting Russia to blame, because the mentality of the "farmer", and all of Ukraine - a farm with industrial enclaves, will not allow themselves to be considered guilty.

    And with Gazprom, the author is rather right. Business compromise against the background of Russia's tasks is like a betrayal. After all, Gazprom is a national treasure, and it should work for Russia, and only then for the "shareholders". hi
  23. DPZ
    DPZ 5 November 2014 09: 18
    0
    And you can close in a room alone with yourself and a piece of glass, hoping that "itself will be resolved somehow."
    the author calls for treatment, and I would prefer the second option: let himself cut himself with glass and die from blood loss. the more so the wait is not long left.
  24. Vancha
    Vancha 5 November 2014 09: 21
    +2
    There is a third option - do not watch TV;)
    1. MIV999
      MIV999 5 November 2014 09: 46
      +4
      There is a joke on this subject:
      Odessa. Bringing.
      Kipeshny, politically "advanced" old man wassat eagerly explains to the impressive seed seller that everything is gone, that Russia has attacked Ukraine am and that bloodthirsty Russians angry tomorrow will be in Odessa belay ...
      “What to do ?!” the old man wringes his hands in horror. request ...
      To which the merchant, quietly spitting husk, advises yes :
      - But didn’t you try to turn off the TV and radio ?!
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      2. 97110
        97110 5 November 2014 16: 05
        0
        Quote: MIV999
        - But didn’t you try to turn off the TV and radio ?!

        If you will, more ancient ...
        - Why are the trousers wrinkled?
        - I turned on the TV - there they show it! I turned on the radio - they say that! I'm already afraid to turn on the iron!
  25. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 5 November 2014 09: 27
    0
    Dear author, how are you personally going to help that territory? Given that they themselves do not want this. And how are you going to poison them with their hatred for us, soaked in mother’s milk?
  26. Manul
    Manul 5 November 2014 09: 28
    +1

    OUN UPA ACTIVITIES

    FROM DOCUMENTS OF THE NKVD-MGB OF THE USSR
    DECLARED IN 2008
    Writing graphics transferred unchanged

    HISTORY
    (from the message of the head of the 4th Directorate of the NKVD of the USSR Sudoplatov to the deputy head of the 3rd directorate of the NKVD of the USSR Ilyushin.
    December 5, 1942 No. 7 / s / 97)

    “The activity of Ukrainian nationalists in the Dnipropetrovsk and Poltava regions, which I had to deal with while still in the RSDLP / b during my work in the pre-revolutionary time, then during the struggle against Petliurism during the Civil War, and finally now, during the Great Patriotic War during my work on the instructions of the NKVD, I studied quite thoroughly, both as a result of personal contact with them, and on the basis of collected data from people close to Ukrainian nationalists.
    Their current traitorous activity has its historical past.
    Even before the October Revolution, in Dnepropetrovsk and in the villages of the Dnepropetrovsk region ... there were "enlightenments" who were the guides of nationalist ideas and around whom Ukrainian youth grouped, who fell under the "ideological" leadership of ardent nationalists ...
    During the civil war, these villages were the centers of the Petliura movement; Petliura units were formed there; in the city of Dnepropetrovsk a corps was formed and in the village of Kozelshchina 2 divisions were formed.
    After the defeat of Petliurism ... active Petliurists went deep underground and only in 1921 were legalized, entered the UKP and used legal opportunities to intensify nationalist work ...
    These persons with the advent of the German occupiers in Ukraine were in the service of the Germans. " TSA FSB of Russia. f. 100, op.11, d.7, l. 60-66

    (from the Protocol of interrogation of Kutkovets Ivan Tikhonovich. February 1, 1944)

    And then what exactly zombie technologies were used? No.
  27. lom
    lom 5 November 2014 09: 30
    +1
    good day to everyone --- May the opinion about Ukraine and Novorossiya ---- Ukraine lay down under the states became a friend of our enemy - brothers brothers - for me this is a snot the main safety of my country of Russia the Yankees started to move piles of biza to our border and slave Slavic half of the plan they succeeded ---- vital for Russia is vitally important Russia is the buffer area of ​​Russia's security - I know the West will not stop the dollar already 43-45 rubles and not only speculators are profiting and there is an undermining of the Russian economy from behind the hill ---- - the war is on the verge of getting ready for food I keep a constant set of products; cereal sugar storage for a month I will buy medical supplies
  28. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 5 November 2014 09: 31
    +1
    The technology is well-known .. Here is tsezor.net (brains))) There the main headline is catchy like "Russia invaded Ukraine, they rape and kill peaceful damned ..." briefly under the article someone heard somewhere ... hundreds of comments of the same short and again the article "The USA and the EU are allocating a huge loan to fight Russia ..." and again hundreds of short comments ... I read for a week and also began to write "Glory to Ukraine" (jokingly) ... bully And also on TV channels hundreds of corpses (they burn and bomb themselves) ... This is how they lived for 23 years ... Russia suffered, but now we will have to pay the bills, including with blood .. hi
  29. wild
    wild 5 November 2014 09: 31
    +3
    Crap all about zombie 25 overs. Due to being directly in the broadcast zone, every day I have the opportunity to watch their channels. When viewing nothing but laughter and perhaps spitting it does not cause. Total lie times Russophobia. At the same time, a war of wars, and I want to eat, and here comes the contradiction. The neighbor should not have to give, and if he doesn’t give, then the damned occupant and Moskva.l. and the people simply died because of mass propaganda. Moreover, the films are in Russian. In general, not everything is so simple. But the fact that there is no 25 frame for sure.
    1. lichide
      lichide 5 November 2014 10: 36
      +2
      I don’t want to offend you "Wild", but when analyzing your text, I identified the signs to which Stirlitz drew our attention. "The last phrase is remembered" You started your story with 25 frames and ended with 25 frames. Didactics damn it! In addition, 9 of your 4 sentences begin with the letter "P". (peace, really, believe me). Here it is zombie! And without any 25 frames! Good luck
      1. 23 region
        23 region 5 November 2014 22: 34
        0
        Quote: Lahideus
        I don’t want to offend you "Wild", but when analyzing your text, I identified the signs to which Stirlitz drew our attention. "The last phrase is remembered" You started your story with 25 frames and ended with 25 frames. Didactics damn it! In addition, 9 of your 4 sentences begin with the letter "P". (peace, really, believe me). Here it is zombie! And without any 25 frames! Good luck

        Thank you for your service! For "Wild" have already left.
  30. Andrea
    Andrea 5 November 2014 09: 40
    +1
    To betray, not to betray, not a question. Is our help needed? Until now, in response to Ukraine’s help, only spit came and gas demands for a freebie. And as for zombies: the tip is not very zombified, its interests are clearly seen, the population of older, too, can not be called zombie.
    here is youth, another conversation. What is Ukrainian, what is ours,
    In different forums on the Internet you can’t distinguish Russians from Ukrainians (if you remove words like; Raska-Ukrashka). The slop bark and pour the same way, the same intolerance to other views.
    Is it not better for us to first cure our souls, and only then, after a little hesitation, go to teach others.
  31. lichide
    lichide 5 November 2014 09: 42
    0
    Well, immediately betrayal! And this is not a betrayal at all, just such a nature! We bears live in a beautifully beautiful forest. We have everything - and the forest is rich, and the rivers are clean with fish and, raspberry rolls! We ourselves do not touch anyone, so sometimes we mutter for fear. We love to lie on the couch on the couch, raspberry is a clear thing to indulge in, but in order to go to the neighboring forests, we don’t have such a habit. But then they often run to us. A flock of foxes, then wolves, then jackals. Of course, we’re tearing them, letting them go, but they don’t get smarter. And ours are not all with the king in his head. There is, there is one teddy bear in the family! Oh, and loves to devour for free! And no matter what, the main thing is a little more schaub. Well, ento is excusable, with whom it does not happen. But here is another. With the baby's head is not very at odds. As the wolves or jackals rush, so every time he runs to them and runs across, yeah! It rushes there with wolves, fights, and as we pile on it, we drive the wolves away with jackals, then the bear as if nothing had happened again to us and immediately to the feeding trough. The elder was already bobbing him, and he’d starved him without eating, and then he killed us all, but didn’t do anything. And so we live in our forest. One piece of news - a lot of rats have bred in the forest and are dragging whatever they get, and they are incredibly dirty. We told the elder that they say it’s not hygienic, it became dirty in the forest, we need rats, that! Huh? The elder thinks for now! Okay, Pokedova! I’ll go look like jackals pave a dam on a river, they want to block the water for us, well, like children, honestly! The river will freeze so soon, and in spring this dam will flood into the flood, with water, then Thomas will wash it off ...
  32. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado 5 November 2014 09: 53
    +3
    The author is not at all in the subject. And he does not understand what is happening. If the Russian army enters Kiev, the "liberated" will shoot in the back for many years to come. Zombified, not zombified, everyone has their own head on their shoulders. And most of the territory is completely empty. We don't need such creatures.
    1. lichide
      lichide 5 November 2014 10: 24
      0
      Many of us do not understand what is happening. When in the bazaar crowd they push you, shout in your ear, step on your feet, you may not understand whether they’re crawling into your pocket or you’re in someone else’s!
  33. Cat man null
    Cat man null 5 November 2014 09: 55
    +2
    The article is an extremely cheap attempt at that very zombie about which the author writes so much.

    "To betray the people of Ukraine, leaving it under the Nazis is the path of Evil." - well, yes, well, yes .. and so they are all white and fluffy, and just waiting for all of us to come to their aid ..

    They came to the rescue. "Refugees" (and among them there are healthy men, incidentally ..). They pay "minimum" (hey .. I would live on 800 rubles a day - yes, easy .. in the absence of the need to pay a communal apartment and despite the fact that after all - but still provide you with grub). So, according to verified rumors, there are many of those who still have "Russia to blame."

    And this is a diagnosis, gentlemen, comrades.

    Article minus, the author - to kill against the wall.
  34. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 10: 03
    0
    Quote: kompotnenado
    The author is not at all in the subject. And he does not understand what is happening. If the Russian army enters Kiev, the "liberated" will shoot in the back for many years to come. Zombified, not zombified, everyone has their own head on their shoulders. And most of the territory is completely empty. We don't need such creatures.


    the army of Novorossia can enter Kiev with some implicit support from the northerners
  35. maestro123
    maestro123 5 November 2014 10: 05
    0
    Looks like the Russians have developed immunity for "psychotropic weapons" long ago.
  36. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 10: 13
    +1
    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    To betray the people of Ukraine, leaving her under the Nazis-is the path of evil. It means switching to NOT THAT side of the story, selling your soul for 47 US dollars.

    The author of the article ascertains the facts that the people of Ukraine are zombied and opposed to the Russian People, that they cannot be abandoned, betrayed, but dear author, where are your specific suggestions on how to save the people who hate you to the point of insanity, it seems to me that such a people can not be saved but if a respected author wishes to try to bring light, good in the hearts of dill, he and the flag in his hands.


    04.11.14. Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

    “The only option is before it's too late (until NATO is ready to send its troops to“ partner Pete ”to help) to crush the Ruin completely by military means, with the creation of“ Great Novorossia. ”This will require considerable hardships and, probably, mobilization. the power of many “old St. Petersburg liberal friends.” But it is better to endure hardships and achieve a decisive victory than to get all the same and end up “at the bottom of the trough” and with the prospect of repeating the path of Milosevic-Hussein-Gaddafi.
    Liberation and reunification. The restoration of what was taken away from us 23 years ago under the guise of completely false cries about "freedom" and "democracy."
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 5 November 2014 10: 26
      0
      Quote: divangeneral
      04.11.14. Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

      “The only option is before it's too late (until NATO is ready to send its troops to“ partner Pete ”to help) to crush the Ruin completely by military means, with the creation of“ Great Novorossia. ”This will require considerable hardships and, probably, mobilization. the power of many “old St. Petersburg liberal friends.” But it is better to endure hardships and achieve a decisive victory than to get all the same and end up “at the bottom of the trough” and with the prospect of repeating the path of Milosevic-Hussein-Gaddafi.
      Liberation and reunification. The restoration of what was taken away from us 23 years ago under the guise of completely false cries about "freedom" and "democracy."


      You know, always when someone offers quick fix for a long-standing problem - it personally causes me .. doubts stop

      Strelkov (with all due respect to him) is still not a politician, not a strategist. He speaks of a decision that he sees and understands. Only.

      Ukraine now is such a tangle of problems, so many different interests of completely different forces are tied to it that a quick solution (a la "saber and horse and into the line of fire") it does not have.

      Now in Ukraine there is real dual power, elections in Kiev vs elections in Novorosia - by value .. are equivalent winked

      With the correct continuation of this chess game, the transition to the side of Novorossia of those (forces, territories ..) in Ukraine who still retained the ability to think will begin (may begin). Cold winter, budget cuts and other delights - this will inevitably help.

      And, it would seem, what does Putin have to do with it?

      That's something like that, IMHO
    2. Constanta
      Constanta 5 November 2014 20: 31
      0
      Whether from Strelkova this message ... Question, however.
  37. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 5 November 2014 10: 27
    0
    "Creatures with weak brains are easy to control ..." "Star Wars" e.4.
  38. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 10: 31
    -1
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: divangeneral
    04.11.14. Message from Strelkov Igor Ivanovich.

    “The only option is before it's too late (until NATO is ready to send its troops to“ partner Pete ”to help) to crush the Ruin completely by military means, with the creation of“ Great Novorossia. ”This will require considerable hardships and, probably, mobilization. the power of many “old St. Petersburg liberal friends.” But it is better to endure hardships and achieve a decisive victory than to get all the same and end up “at the bottom of the trough” and with the prospect of repeating the path of Milosevic-Hussein-Gaddafi.
    Liberation and reunification. The restoration of what was taken away from us 23 years ago under the guise of completely false cries about "freedom" and "democracy."


    You know, always when someone offers quick fix for a long-standing problem - it personally causes me .. doubts stop

    Strelkov (with all due respect to him) is still not a politician, not a strategist. He speaks of a decision that he sees and understands. Only.

    Ukraine now is such a tangle of problems, so many different interests of completely different forces are tied to it that a quick solution (a la "saber and horse and into the line of fire") it does not have.

    Now in Ukraine there is real dual power, elections in Kiev vs elections in Novorosia - by value .. are equivalent winked

    With the correct continuation of this chess game, the transition to the side of Novorossia of those (forces, territories ..) in Ukraine who still retained the ability to think will begin (may begin). Cold winter, budget cuts and other delights - this will inevitably help.

    And, it would seem, what does Putin have to do with it?

    That's something like that, IMHO


    it is fashionable now to say that the situation in Ukraine has no military solution. this is said by journalists and "experts".
    I personally support Strelka: unfortunately, the solution is only a military one.
    this is bad, but the rest of the options are even worse.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 5 November 2014 11: 00
      +2
      Quote: divangeneral
      this is said by journalists and "experts".


      And themselves - to whom, excuse me, are you ranked?

      Quote: divangeneral
      unfortunately only a military solution


      These are emotions .. read a little more about the problem - and this will go away from you, maybe lol Do not forget the following:

      - disloyal (at least) attitude of the majority in Ukraine to the "military solution" with the participation of Russia
      - NATO. No one has canceled it. They themselves will not climb, most likely, but they will try to spoil, as far as possible,
      - in Russia there are quite a lot of problems now .. to list? Gas exports to Europe are one of them. You can troll as much as you like on this topic, but this is an essential piece of the country's budget .. social programs, roads, well, hereinafter.

      To get involved in the war now is not to solve any of these problems. To aggravate - yes, lehko ..

      And, it would seem - for what? For the sake of saving proto-cucumbers? From ourselves, in fact ???

      IMHO nonsense.
  39. 3vs
    3vs 5 November 2014 10: 31
    +3
    Orthodox author proposes to move Russian troops to Kiev?
    Are they waiting for us with flowers?
    God made man free.
    And all zombies are powerless if God is in the soul of man.
    Everyone will answer for himself and his actions can not be blamed on others.
    Well, there is no God - everything is permitted!
    The Orthodox person is supposed to say a prayer for the admonition of the lost.
    But we are "Orthodox" - lazy, who are too lazy for five minutes in prayer to God
    ask for peace in New Russia and Little Russia.

    Of course, the easiest way out suggests itself - to send troops, take
    Kiev, introduce martial law on the territory of Little Russia, kill the odious "politicians"
    and "oligarchs" and hold a referendum in each region with whom they want to live further
    and run away.
    The question is how much blood will be shed ?!
  40. jurassic61
    jurassic61 5 November 2014 10: 37
    0
    In my opinion, it makes sense to let a little blood, for the entire 23-year history of independence, haven't we turned a shoulder to our brothers, we substituted, the fact is that a narrow circle used this help, a person in my opinion should appreciate the difference between the old Ukraine and the new.
    The economic problems of Ukraine devastation put everything in its place.
    Fascism that exists in Ukraine did not originate last year in November, but much earlier, it was necessary to think about 20 years ago, by the way, this movement also exists in Russia and we cannot deny it.
  41. Oldwiser
    Oldwiser 5 November 2014 10: 45
    0
    An old question about the relationship between romanticism and realism. Romanticism requires the expulsion of demons from Ukraine, and realism is forced to count grandmothers (including Gazprom ones). Lost in 23 years of total non-interference and inaction will now have to be returned with blood, sweat and deprivation. New Russia - to be, Ukraine - death and oblivion.
  42. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 5 November 2014 11: 02
    +3
    Quote: siberalt
    The same fact as zombies on Russian TV. Continuous hangouts of zvizduns, jokes below the belt, animated cartoons from there, dubious series, fucking advertisements, illiterate broadcasters, replacement of Russian speech, etc., you will not list all. But there are honest transfers. Therefore, in the heads of porridge.

    Plus! But! In Ukraine, everything is a bit wrong. NLP or other psychotechnologies are really applied there, I draw a conclusion by communicating with my relatives living in this unfortunate country.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 5 November 2014 13: 08
      +1
      Most likely complex: media, NLP, something like the 25th frame (adjusted for television), chemistry, maybe wave effects ...
  43. iner
    iner 5 November 2014 11: 05
    +1

    Today, Ukraine is the greatest test for Russia and the Russians. This is a test for the worst sin - betrayal!


    Good article, I share many of your views. But you will forgive me, but it seems to me hard to betray the one who has already knowingly betrayed you.
    I am sure of only one thing, not all citizens of Ukraine, the Nazis and Bandera. And for them it is possible and necessary to fight. To extend a helping hand is a meaning only to those who reach for this hand. And if you hold out your hand and they are pouring into it. That is not help, but only food for hate.
    If I'm wrong about something, then correct me.
  44. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 11: 22
    +1
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: divangeneral
    this is said by journalists and "experts".


    And themselves - to whom, excuse me, are you ranked?
    PERSONALLY I PERSONALIZE MYSELF TO CREATIVE INTELLIGENCE.
    DO YOU SEE ME FROM KENGURYAN

    Quote: divangeneral
    unfortunately only a military solution


    These are emotions .. read a little more about the problem - and this will go away from you, maybe lol Do not forget the following:

    - disloyal (at least) attitude of the majority in Ukraine to the "military solution" with the participation of Russia
    - NATO. No one has canceled it. They themselves will not climb, most likely, but they will try to spoil, as far as possible,
    - in Russia there are quite a lot of problems now .. to list? Gas exports to Europe are one of them. You can troll as much as you like on this topic, but this is an essential piece of the country's budget .. social programs, roads, well, hereinafter.
    PERSONALLY I AM EXTREMELY ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR THE SITUATION AND OWNER Surely not worse than YOU.
    ON MY PERSONAL LOOK, TO SOLVE A STRONG QUESTION IN UKRAINE SHOULD NOT NOT RUSSIA, AND NOVOROSSIA.
    ABOUT GAS EXPORT: A PROBLEM THAT IN UKRAINE AND ITS OWNER - USA. If Novorossia solves the problem with the Nazis and takes out the Amer from Kiev, then there will be no problem. And EUROPE WILL NOT REFUSE GAS.
    SO DON'T NEED THE DEMAGOGY OF YOUR KENGURYAN

    To get involved in the war now is not to solve any of these problems. To aggravate - yes, lehko ..

    IT IS POSSIBLE TO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS OF RUSSIA, NOVOROSSIA AND UKRAINE BY THE HANDS OF NEW RUSSIA: STRENGTHLY RELEASE THE BIG NOVOROSSIA AND EVEN KIEV, PERFORM A CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM FOR CONVERSION TO CONFEDERATION. REQUEST RECOGNITION OF THE CRIMINAL RESIDENT'S RIGHT FOR SELF-DETERMINATION = MEAN LEGALIZING IT AND REMOVING THE SANCTIONS REASON.
    IN CONFEDERATION FORM, EACH OF THE PARTICIPANT COUNTRIES HAS THE RIGHT TO EXIT. Either NOVOROSSIA MAY EXIT UKRAINE, LEGALLY. OR YOU CAN PUT OUT THE DOOR OF GALICHNY TOGETHER WITH THE NATIONS.
    THAT'S ALL.


    And, it would seem - for what? For the sake of saving proto-cucumbers? From ourselves, in fact ???

    IMHO nonsense.

    YES, FOR RESCUE FROM YOURSELF.
    And ABOUT THE ARTICLE, LIKE ON THE CASE YOU UNDERSTAND, WHY YOUR SOUL.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 5 November 2014 11: 41
      +1
      I repeat, I guess: you have emotions of that .. scale .. and the caps fuse for some reason.

      In fact :
      Quote: divangeneral
      IT IS POSSIBLE TO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS OF RUSSIA, NEW RUSSIA AND UKRAINE BY THE HANDS OF NEW RUSSIA: STRENGTH TO RELEASE THE GREAT NEW RUSSIA AND EVEN KIEV,

      -You know, my friends in Zaporozhye and Kharkov will be very unhappy if they are домой someone will come to fight (while they are not Nazis and not dill, believe me, please) .. well, try on the situation for yourself, in the end - they came to "liberate" your city .. no food, water, heat. But there is a mess and it is not clear who has a lot of weapons - do you need it ??

      Quote: divangeneral
      PERSONALLY I PERSONALIZE MYSELF TO CREATIVE INTELLIGENCE.
      DO YOU SEE ME FROM KENGURYAN

      - creative intelligentsia - it’s so different winked
      - when it seems - we are baptized .. I didn’t call you names

      Something like that, yes.
  45. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 11: 45
    0
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    I repeat, I guess: you have emotions of that .. scale .. and the caps fuse for some reason.

    In fact :
    Quote: divangeneral
    IT IS POSSIBLE TO SOLVE ALL PROBLEMS OF RUSSIA, NEW RUSSIA AND UKRAINE BY THE HANDS OF NEW RUSSIA: STRENGTH TO RELEASE THE GREAT NEW RUSSIA AND EVEN KIEV,

    -You know, my friends in Zaporozhye and Kharkov will be very unhappy if they are домой someone will come to fight (while they are not Nazis and not dill, believe me, please) .. well, try on the situation for yourself, in the end - they came to "liberate" your city .. no food, water, heat. But there is a mess and it is not clear who has a lot of weapons - do you need it ??

    Quote: divangeneral
    PERSONALLY I PERSONALIZE MYSELF TO CREATIVE INTELLIGENCE.
    DO YOU SEE ME FROM KENGURYAN

    - creative intelligentsia - it’s so different winked
    - when it seems - we are baptized .. I didn’t call you names

    Something like that, yes.


    if in essence: about your "friends". if their hut is on the edge, like the majority of the population of Ukraine, let them sit and do not act. will still accept the order that the winners will establish.
    about the mess and weapons, hunger and cold: if everything is done correctly, then the APU can be rolled out in the Donbas and there will be no one to destroy these cities in Zaporozhye and Kharkov.
    about the irony over the intelligentsia: as I understand it, you do not rank yourself among it? :-)
    I understand that you are a professional demagogue from the Surkov's nest. well, or not professional, and so, "amateur"
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 5 November 2014 12: 06
      0
      Quote: divangeneral
      if their hut is on the edge, like the majority of the population of Ukraine

      - gold words! Exactly. Only acquaintances also have children in their arms and pets wink And that war about which you crucify here threatens them, and not you. And I understand them. Better than you. lol

      Quote: divangeneral
      if everything is done correctly, then the APU can be rolled out in the Donbass and there will be no one to destroy these cities in Zaporozhye and Kharkov

      - nonsense, sorry. I will not even comment. From the "sofa general"

      Quote: divangeneral
      about the irony over the intelligentsia: as I understand it, you do not rank yourself among it? :-)

      - and where is the irony? Statement of fact, no more. If you are so interested - I do not belong to the creative intelligentsia .. we techies, somehow)

      Quote: divangeneral
      I understand that you are a professional demagogue from the Surkov's nest. well, or not professional, and so, "amateur"

      - you don’t see the drummer? Do not be sad, everything is still ahead))))
  46. father nikon
    father nikon 5 November 2014 11: 46
    0
    Today, Ukraine is the greatest test for Russia and the Russians. This is a test for the worst sin - betrayal!

    It's right! Do not add good
  47. IAlex
    IAlex 5 November 2014 11: 53
    0
    How much does a soul cost?

    I answer - it costs exactly as much as they are willing to pay for it after all its activities. The Western soul is not worth a penny, for no one is going to pay for it in any form, and for 6 months it has proved.
  48. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 11: 59
    +1
    Quote: IAlex
    How much does a soul cost?

    I answer - it costs exactly as much as they are willing to pay for it after all its activities. The Western soul is not worth a penny, for no one is going to pay for it in any form, and for 6 months it has proved.


    the soul costs exactly as much as it is ready to sell for.
    or not to sell, and then it is not for sale. like Strelkova and other volunteers.
    1. IAlex
      IAlex 5 November 2014 12: 11
      +2
      If you are ready to sell it, then it’s not worth the damn thing because for you it has no value, because you don’t need it, and others don’t particularly need it because you still have it ...
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  49. vovan50
    vovan50 5 November 2014 12: 07
    +2
    About Ukrainians we can say this:
    - It’s easy to zombie me, I’m glad to be zombied myself.
  50. divangeneral
    divangeneral 5 November 2014 12: 07
    -2
    Quote: wks
    Prolonged viewing of Ukrainian TV channels made me feel that I am against the "Ukrainian people" and that I am a terrorist. For a convinced person like me, this is simply not normal. Direct impact was used. I do not know what specific technology was used - either a specially constructed text, or the 25th frame, but what it was is unambiguous. And not only I felt this impact. Many militias, if they watched Ukrainian television for a long time, lost their motivation to fight. "
    The 25th frame is a newspaper duck. 70% of people are susceptible to suggestion and can be easily hypnotized. Maybe the author's "conviction" is explained precisely by the fact that he belongs to these 70%.


    are you Strelkova attributed to these 70% percent?
    well ..