Kiev said it was ready to buy coal from the DNI and LC

After unloading the coal that arrived in the Ukrainian ports from the Republic of South Africa, Kiev announced that it was ready to consider the possibility of acquiring coal in those areas of Donbass that are not under its control. Kiev calls these territories "occupied". This was told by Yuri Zyukov - First Deputy Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine.

Zyukova quotes RIA News:

For coal, which we are ready to buy in the occupied territories of Lugansk and Donetsk regions, we have to pay money. This is money that should go under control and go to the miners to pay, so that we understand that this money will be used for wages, first of all - to pay for electricity and to address social issues in mining towns and villages.

Mr. Zyukov counted that about 2,1 mln. Tons of coal are in the warehouses in the territories of the DNR and the LC. And Kiev is ready to purchase all this coal. At the same time, Zyukov made it clear that Kiev cannot buy coal in South Africa on an ongoing basis, since it hits the country's state budget. But a couple of months ago, Kiev was seriously glad that he had signed a contract with the Republic of South Africa on coal supplies. But the light frost and holey treasury contribute to some sobering Kiev authorities in terms of energy programs. The main thing - money forward.

Comments

[GeorgeSev85]

But what about the robotic Grisha? ))) however cold ...

[herruvim]

Kiev said it was ready to buy coal from the DNI and LC

And where do you get away from the submarine, and you will buy coal and recognize independence

[herruvim]

Ukrainian to Russian:
“We will never be brothers again.”
“Have you had a sex change operation?”

[Stalevar]

Kiev cannot buy coal in South Africa on an ongoing basis, as this strikes the state budget of the country.

Is it now that an epiphany has come, or have you bought a calculator somewhere and calculated it? So you can tell at once that it is expensive to haul a coal from South Africa by paraships. But what about Pan Yatsenyuk? He wanted to borrow for free in Poland. What, didn't they? Into the wolves! And Europe is also called! I didn’t screw up my favorite crests with coal. So, guys, don't twist it, but without Donbas, you are like without your mother's tits. And where is your vaunted pride and self-esteem, if you got to the "Coloradas" for coal. Or when the asshole is freezing about the national idea, it is customary for you not to remember? Whores are corrupt!

[T-73]

Who are they without the East, without industry? Jumping - not working. Galicia generally got out of the cattle under the Soviets. They walked barefoot. They didn’t let them into Lviv at all, they came to sell butter and milk - they didn’t let them go to the doorstep - they left to eat and in the morning they came to collect money. It was 1939, the Russian invaders came and ... that's it. The nation perished ... The monuments of Lenin are crumbling ... To whom essentially are obliged. We have more reasons for this. But we are not destroying, we live in memory, we just need to respect what our parents lived

[AnpeL]

Well, if you decide to buy, then this is certainly good, but even though Kuev considers these territories to be his own, the DPR and LPR themselves (and most likely do not wait too long for other regions of Ukraine) consider themselves separate states. AND on the international market, energy trading for bucks only. So there is nothing superfluous, but the hryvnia is not in use, and in the Kuevsky Central Bank they were already printed for this case))

[washi]

Quote: AnpeL

Well, if you decide to buy, then this is certainly good, but even though Kuev considers these territories to be his own, the DPR and LPR themselves (and most likely do not wait too long for other regions of Ukraine) consider themselves separate states. AND on the international market, energy trading for bucks only. So there is nothing superfluous, but the hryvnia is not in use, and in the Kuevsky Central Bank they were already printed for this case))

In New Russia, they agree to the hryvnia, but money ahead + debts on salaries and pensions, because (I don’t understand) taxes are still going to Kiev

[supertiger21]

Here with Kiev you need to be a little more careful, these are still scammers!

[papas-57]

`` and in the Kuevo Central Bank they have already been printed for this case. '' Not many countries can print real money, not candy wrappers. Ukraine is not among them. When they entered the hryvnia, they printed money in mattresses. The whole world laughed at Ukraine - for 6 billion hryvnia, they paid 20 billion dollars (I don't remember the exact numbers, but somewhere like this)

[wanderer987]

And remember their first punch in 1992 in the "Coupon" Russia offered its services for printing coupons (they were later called "Hohlobaks"), but no harm was ordered in Canada, and that on the second day of wearing this bill in a trouser pocket, this promocough torn at the bend!

[papas-57]

`` and in the Kuevo Central Bank they have already been printed for this case. '' Not many countries can print real money, not candy wrappers. Ukraine is not among them. When they entered the hryvnia, they printed money in mattresses. The whole world laughed at Ukraine - for 6 billion hryvnia, they paid 20 billion dollars (I don't remember the exact numbers, but somewhere like this)

[avg]

At the same time, Zyukov made it clear that Kiev could not buy coal in South Africa on an ongoing basis, since it hit the state budget of the country.

And Mr. Zyukov can name a decision of the government that would not hit the country's budget, or at least missed? No, it's all right on target!

This is money that should go under control and reach the miners for payment, so that we understand that this money will be used for wages,

Europe and the IMF note. The money allocated for payment for gas should be immediately transferred to GAZPROM, so that we understand that this money will be used strictly for its intended purpose.

[APASUS]

Quote: Stalevar

Kiev cannot buy coal in South Africa on an ongoing basis, as this strikes the state budget of the country.

Is it now that insight has come, or have you bought and calculated a calculator somewhere? So then you’ll immediately determine the hell that from South Africa to pull a coal with parachutes is expensive. But what about pan Yatsenyuk? He wanted to take it in Poland for free. Che, did not give? Into the wolves! And also Europe is called!

Just in Ukraine, the three-headed government:
One head constantly promises!
The second is constantly looking!
And the third one has a calculator!

[tilovaykrisa]

The main thing is that dill with real money was paid to Donbas, otherwise they, according to old habits, can assume that buying means borrowing money.

[Egoza]

Quote: tilovaykrisa

The main thing is that dill with real money was paid to Donbas, otherwise they, according to old habits, can assume that buying means borrowing money.

“When the shipment of coal to Ukraine was stopped (from the Donbass - approx. Ed.), More than 2 million tons of coal remained there. This coal has already been mined, money has already been spent on its cost. We are going to buy this coal from the same state-owned enterprises, so that the money will go to the miners and be used for wages, to maintain the mines in working condition, to reproduce these mines, and to pay for electricity.
I personally, as one of the leaders in the ministry, negotiate with our general directors, who are located in the ATO zone, and they, in turn, are negotiating with the leaders of the so-called people's republics, ”the Energy Ministry official drew a diagram of interaction.
Zyukov explains this decision, not quite expected in the current conditions, of Kiev’s economic feasibility. According to him, Ukraine is ready to buy coal from the Donbass at a price of 850 hryvnias per ton, while imported coal costs the budget 1100 hryvnias per ton.

[Nicholas C.]

1. Did Stalin and Hitler trade during the war?

2. It is possible to deliver something if Bandera-fascist Kiev concludes internationally legally binding interstate the contract. Otherwise it will be as always - the junta will not pay. They clearly wrote: Ukraine cannot buy - it hits the budget. They want it like the Poles - for nothing, with Bandera’s demagogy and propaganda, so that the Donetsk people will also be to blame, and should.

[Iline]

This is money that should go under control and reach the miners for payment, so that we understand that this money will be used for wages, primarily for electricity and for solving social issues in mining cities and towns.

Here, damn it, the humanists x ... s. First bomb the mines and infrastructure, and now take care of all this. Before you get coal, show me the money, otherwise your friends, the Poles, simply refused to dump a piece of coal for nothing. This is Europe, brother, and the freebie does not roll.

[zennon]

Quote: Stalevar

Is it now that insight has come, or have you bought and calculated a calculator somewhere?

They counted. They were going to buy it at the cost price. For reference: the South African one costs $ 91 per ton in the port. Our, Novokuznetsk, $ 80 per ton in wagons with delivery. How much "at cost" is not reported ... But it doesn't matter! the same Polish free to take gathered!

[Paradoxov]

Buying coal is a good thing!
But first, let them pay for the destroyed mines and infrastructure!

[Stanislav 1978]

This is money that must go under control and reach the miners for payment, so that we understand that this money will be used for wages, primarily for electricity and for solving social issues in mining cities and towns

The main thing is that they would give the money, and how the DPR and LPR authorities will dispose of it will decide for themselves.

[mamont5]

Quote: herruvim

Kiev said it was ready to buy coal from the DNI and LC

And where do you get away from the submarine, and you will buy coal and recognize independence

Let them buy, if there is excess coal left, then why not sell it.

[dr.star75]

And sell only for rubles! Let them jump.

[Finches]

It seems to me that the road to hell is paved with good intentions!
About the fact that the money will go to miners, etc. But here is not the whole message! In a full statement, this official specified that the money will be transferred after coal reaches Kiev, undergoes a laboratory test of suitability, etc.
I think that there will be no money! I would not believe Kiev! In the morning money, in the evening chairs, with the junta the only way!

[Giant thought]

Winter has not begun yet, and the junta is already beginning to forget about its high-profile statements, they are hypocrites as hypocrites.

[Egoza]

Quote: Thought Giant

Winter has not begun yet, and the junta is already beginning to forget about its high-profile statements,

As a result of a military operation in Donbass, where 80% of Ukrainian mines are located, the country lost about 12 million tons of coal, said Yury Zyukov, First Deputy Minister of Energy and Coal Industry.

“We have lost almost 12 million tons of coal in recent months due to hostilities. State-owned enterprises produced 16 million tons, and their losses amounted to 3,7 million tons, ”Zyukov said.

According to the deputy minister, coal production over 10 months of 2014 decreased by 17% compared to the same period last year - to 57 million tons from 68,6 million tons.

Earlier, Zyukov said that Kiev was ready to acquire coal in the regions of Donbass, which are controlled by representatives of the militia of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics.

It should be noted that stopping coal mining in the Donbass threatens Ukraine with an energy disaster.

Source: http://politikus.ru/events/34629-doskakalis-ukraina-iz-za-konflikta-v-donbasse-p
oteryala-12-mln-tonn-uglya.html

[subbtin.725]

. The main thing is money ahead.

FINALLY THAT AND RUSSIA SPEAKED WITH THEM IN THIS UNDERSTANDING LANGUAGE. BUSINESS OF Gentlemen, AND NOTHING PERSONAL.

[Denis fj]

"Ukraine agreed to buy coal in the regions of Donbass controlled by the militias." And Donbass agreed to sell to Kiev? So far, nothing has been heard about the coal negotiations. How long did the gas negotiations with Russia last? Kiev wanted gas for almost nothing? Now he wants coal for free? And how much, apart from mining, will it cost to restore destroyed mines? Water pumping pumps? Mine fans? Electricity supply? Rail tracks? Other infrastructure? We still need to return the workers and engineers to the mines, how many of them left for Russia with their families? And how many simply died? For Kiev, everything should be included in the price of coal. They were there, giving orders to bomb, did not think that they were spitting in the well? That winter will come? America will certainly help ... with consultants. And Europe - God forbid to pay for gas, so as not to freeze.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

in the morning - money, in the evening - coal! otherwise:

[Viktor Kudinov]

The main thing is money ahead.

It must be assumed that Donetsk coal will also rise in price for Kiev. After all, miners must pay a decent salary. And to observe how they get it - it is already necessary to ask their consent.

[yushch]

It seems that the only fact influencing the conclusion of contracts by Kiev is, "The main thing is in spite of mos-kalyam !!!" The rest of the facts reach Svidomo after a while.

[Siberian German]

so let them jump

[Kasym]

And they decided to pay for gas from foreign exchange reserves, and not from IMF loans. According to the head of the National Bank of Ukraine. Looks like no one gave, they said that loans would only be in January and not before. And gas is needed now.
I wonder in what currency will they pay for coal? New Russia need RUBLES (at the rate) to ask. In Kiev authorities will come to a stupor!
Poroshenko still has enough brains not to start a war. But ahead ... frosts. And how he is terbat. and PSov at the front going to keep? Those may soon turn to Kiev. I wonder how cold therapy will affect the position of the front? Quilted jackets (sweatshirts, quilted jackets) will soon become demanded. "The winter is coming". Cool VGTRK teases the Kiev authorities!

[wanderer_032]

Quote: Kasym

"The winter is coming". Cool VGTRK teases the Kiev authorities!

Winter is coming, but ordinary people, mostly old people, will die.
Ukrainians need to solve something with the issue of the national oligarchic junta and decide sooner. And if they pull the rubber, then they will grieve.

[GeorgeSev85]

Quote: herruvim

And where do you get away from the submarine, and you will buy coal and recognize independence

So it's normal, one country buys from another.

[rotmistr60]

First money, then coal. 100% prepayment. We know this Kiev - sheer freeloaders and scammers.

[abrakadabre]

As well as the collateral value of cars. And then it will become from them, the rolling stock cannot be returned. The price also includes all debts to the regions on social programs before the coup and the restoration of destruction and payment of compensation to the population from the beginning of the ATO.
And all is prepaid only. No pre-deliveries, installments and delays in transfers.
Only according to Ilf and Petrov: "In the morning money - chairs in the evening. In the evening money - chairs in the morning ... But money in advance"

[sub307]

That's right - "money in the morning, chairs in the evening", and nothing else.

[Kasym]

Tell me. And what the hell ukrovoyaki railroad destroyed the infrastructure? It is necessary and money for the restoration of railway. ask. Bill, and there you look and the cities will stop shelling, at least they scratch their turnips. Or offer pickup Kamaz!

[svp67]

Kiev said it was ready to buy coal from the DNI and LC

That's when you regret that winter is only once a year ... Or maybe they will start to negotiate, and not fight

[chelovektapok]

Strange "pryntsypy". Yak sho, so immediately "mo.ska.l.sco". And gas and coal nifiga do not get across the Nazi muzzle. Yes, let them take it if there is money .... (although from where? Honor is there instead of money). But first ukrokaratels in huts in zapadenshchina. It will be better for them. Well, the liberation of the Nazi-occupied territories of Novorossiya, of course.

[B.T.V.]

Cold is not aunt, however ???

[T-73]

consider your money, what to worry about the miners! Stop shooting - and the norms, the miners and their families will only be satisfied. But the coal is for money, there is no pipe to the geyropu. Damn, but how are they going to build something by buying coal in South Africa? The answer is simple - they are not going to build anything

[dimdimich71]

Barter weapons, tanks, coal in return!

[wanderer987]

But the idea is not bad exchange of coal for weapons, for example, Kamaz coal = 1 tank, = 1 degree, = 2 bmp, etc. good math will work with all the consequences !!!

[pest]

Donbas needs to sell coal to Kuev at the European market price, no less than South African. Where they go, the coal is noble, high-calorie with low ash content. Even geyropes don’t have such a thing. They won’t be happy with the price, beg the Poles to beg and borrow.

[T-73]

Quote: pest

Where they go, the coal is noble, high-calorie with low ash content. This is not even geyropa

golden words, dill themselves I think did not understand that prosra .... will buy)

[Vyatich]

They don’t want to pay for Russian gas, let them pay for the DNR and LNR coal !!!

[Federal]

A positive start.

"The ice is broken, gentlemen of the jury" O. Bender

[wanderer987]

Change "ice has broken" to "ice has risen" now it will be so much better, but in the spring, when the ice breaks, let's see how many Banderlog will remain after wintering !!!

[GeorgeSev85]

Quote: Vyatich

They don’t want to pay for Russian gas, let them pay for the DNR and LNR coal !!!

And let the DNI sell them with 100% wrap, but they will buy it ... the main thing is not to buy from the Russian Federation. They are strange of course.

[sever.56]

And Novorossia will think again: at what price to sell, and how much. Maybe it’s more profitable for her to sell to Russia!

[Neighbor]

Or maybe more cartridges from the Lugansk plant? And also cheap?

[kot28.ru]

Guys, take a prepayment before April, otherwise it’s ut ! No loan and then a type of geyropa will give only cash and go !

[RUSS]

Well, that’s the beginning of replenishing the budget of New Russia, so quiet glanders and state independence will also grow in economic independence.

[antinon]

What they will buy is good, however, if there is no money in the treasury, then with what Kiev will pay. It would be nice to organize a kind of barter: Coal to Kiev in exchange for water and electricity to the Crimea, and the Russian Federation can transfer money for coal to Donbass.

[yuriy-48]

So check in fact subsidized areas

[sanek0207]

Do not give Ukraine coal, let them learn to reckon with the opinion of the people! And let the fascists burn their own in the furnaces, maybe they will unfreeze !? Although, hardly!

[Bronik]

To begin with, let Kiiv stop prepaying in TNT equivalent.

[erased]

And they left the territories of New Russia? Have you paid compensation for material and moral damage? Have you signed an agreement on recognizing the independence of New Russia? Not? But would they not go to Lyashko?

[Mountain shooter]

2 million tons. - this is just over $ 100 million. Donbass cannot be raised for this money. If you crawl into one mug - this is money, and for so many disadvantaged - a drop in the ocean. I would like to hear what the Urosmi will write about this? Another "peremoga"?

[awersa]

When the ass freezes the show-offs do not roll however ...

[asar]

Well, "arrived" however! First, destroy everything, kill, call it "subhuman", and now "we want" the coal! Ukromarazm in action! To recognize the independence of the DPR and LPR, to withdraw the troops from the real borders of Novorossiya, to pay for the punitive war, then it will be possible to think about coal! Only he will not agree to this, otherwise the Gutroshenko and his pack will not sit in power: “If Petro Poroshenko surrenders at least one kilometer of Ukrainian land in negotiations with the DPR and LPR, he will be overthrown, and the military will take power in the country. TVi said the commander of the assault group of the battalion "Donbass" Taras Konstanchuk.

[Funnels]

I wonder how much "loan from the IMF" Yatsik and the company put in their pockets for the purchase of coal? You don't have to be a Doctor of Economics to calculate where it is cheaper from South Africa, Poland, Donbass, Russia. Well, of course, Russia is understandable, the occupier, Poland didn't get through for free, Donbass somehow got lost from the separatists (at first). South Africa

[silberwolf88]

The cold is not aunt ... and there ... in the civilized world ... where Ukraine wants to go ... there accept to pay for deliveries ... moreover, regularly and mainly according to the prepaid scheme if business sees risks ... And modern Ukraine one big economic risk.
The present Ukrainians especially pleased me ... they made their choice ... now you have to live according to your choice, citizens who are independent ... and all that the authorities will do to you ... this is also your choice ... Enjoy European values ...

[Stoler]

Definitely they are not going to pay for the corner, only I'm afraid they have this old trick will not work. Moreover, coal will be needed by Novorossia this winter. But the trend pleases, from the beginning of gas supply separately from dill, now you look at coal trade and recognize independence.

[Historian]

Do not give anything! .. I think you can find other markets. If it presses, then prepayment in RMB and small bills! ..
All a happy holiday !!!
Winter Is Coming...

[fridge]

we have to pay money. This is money that should go under control and reach the miners for payment, so that we understand that this money will be used for wages, primarily for electricity and for solving social issues in mining cities and towns.

The top of cynicism, on the one hand, everything is ruining, but they are allegedly worried about people. Themselves fanned the topic of occupation, believed in it and how frostbitten proceeded to liberation. Let us recall what Donbass wanted in the spring, after the dill had done, the desire of the inhabitants of Donbass is now completely different. In general, you need to work with dill on a prepaid basis.

[kolobok63]

Apparently, the weather is already making its adjustments to the policy of dill ... And the winter has not begun yet! Money is just ahead! Americans will not plant coal and shale gas, it’s a little expensive from Africa! Sell coal to Kiev one dollar cheaper than they buy from Africa . Everything will fall into place, at least until spring! Goosebumps screaming ran along the back! There will still be roofing felts!

[3vs]

It’s interesting that they will offer Donetsk residents - how can the Poles give them coke for free,
or how, with GAZPROM, give us coal, but will we pay later, somehow?

[Quantum]

Ukropia has no money. This can be seen by the delay in the payment for gas.
Have a merry winter - fascists!

[pinecone]

Quote: pest

Donbas needs to sell coal to Kuev at the European market price, no less than South African. Where they go, the coal is noble, high-calorie with low ash content. Even geyropes don’t have such a thing. They won’t be happy with the price, beg the Poles to beg and borrow.

Poles are cunning, prudent people, for the northern regions of Poland they themselves buy coal mined in the Kaliningrad region, because it is cheaper to get it than to transport from Silesia.

[qQQQ]

Quote: pinecone

Poles are cunning, prudent people, for the northern regions of Poland they themselves buy coal mined in the Kaliningrad region, because it is cheaper to get it than to transport from Silesia.

It's not just the price. In Poland, coal is closer to brown, i.e. not very good quality, I don’t know how in Kaliningrad, but in the Donbass anthracite. Brown coal firing is not always possible due to installed equipment.

[YGV-97219]

Ideal for Kiev, and Donbas will come in handy for transitional wrappers!

[vodolaz]

What, the Poles did not give for free? :)

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Cold is not an aunt however ..

[S_Baykala]

In Belarus, the same joke was 5-6 years ago. They bought a tanker with oil in Venezuela - they are friends, there were some oil graters with Russia back then. Bought, drove, and it turned out that the terminal in the port did not have time to finish ( ), it was necessary to unload in the ruin, then by convoys to Belarus, in short, the gasoline came out as fuel for space rockets. The graters stopped by themselves.
Why am I doing this? He wrote at the beginning of summer or spring - most likely the GDP plan is to let the ruin boil in its own juice, without a freebie. So that through a catastrophic fall in living standards + cold in winter + a fall in all that is possible - from wages to industry, for the 1-2 of the year, they will receive an aversion to Russophobia and hate speech. But then the events accelerated and went into confrontation. They led to the war .... But as I understand it, the plan continues to operate. And we are approaching the main events.

[Coconut Tima]

Quote: vodolaz

What, the Poles did not give for free? :)

. Ukrainian folk wisdom:
- Buli Poles - Buli naked.
Buv Bandera - boules in the blood knee-deep.
Buli - bouv hlib on the table.
Europa came - ass ass again !!!

[saag]

I wonder if they will sell coal to the warring side of them? In the spirit of modern liberal values

[spiriolla-45]

And for what currency will they charge? You can print a lot of your Tugriks and you can do this.

[Denis fj]

Really no one in the current leadership of Ukraine will understand what they have done? Europe took the Baltic states under its wing, because these are small countries and it was strategically important for the states to first cut off Kaliningrad. And why the hell should they feed western Ukraine? They’ll take it, but they won’t feed it. The anger among the citizens of western Ukraine has reached such a level that certain parts of the brain in these people have turned off and ceased to participate in thinking. It seems that they did not, in spite of the pits, go to a normal toilet, began to recover right in the yard at their doorstep.

[dchegrinec]

Maybe at least it will turn out at least a penny to cure the Holodrans to wean from freebies.

[Belarus]

If all this is true, then it turns out to be some kind of black joke. Why black and just it would be all funny if it weren’t so sad. There is a war in the southeast and Kiev says it will buy coal from the southeast.But we all know the value of the words of the Kiev junta - these words are worthless.
And so it turns out ..... first they get into a fight, inflict severe wounds, both physical and moral, and then declare their intentions to buy coal at southeast.Maybe it will be right (if it's all true) to sell coal to the junta if it will buy it.After all, the militias are not fascists, and despite all that fell on them, they remained people, the militias did not start the war.
And the junta and punishers have one piece of advice for the winter: eat more peas and spoil the air, go to the gas bottle.

[wanderer987]

After unloading the coal that arrived in the Ukrainian ports from the Republic of South Africa, Kiev announced that it was ready to consider the possibility of acquiring coal in those areas of Donbass that are not under its control. Kiev calls these territories "occupied". This was told by Yuri Zyukov - First Deputy Minister of Energy and Coal Industry of Ukraine.

Apparently an African ember bites in price, races to Donbass Poroshenko went with his hat off, then let him take off his pants and from Kiev to crawl back to Donbass for coal with cancer!

[sv68]

when kuev promises or offers something, look for a trick. and if they want to buy, do they have purchases for what they want to buy? Resolve to the republics, but my opinion is that a coal car for 100 km of territories is a good price.

[kelevra]

They thereby recognize the DPR and LPR !!! It begins to reach that these republics are too tough for them!

[Lukich]

the Poles did not ride for free, the principles are forgotten, we bowed)))

[Valkh]

They want to buy!?! Where is the money, Zin ... ??? the freebie is over !!! - jump !!!

[gavr002]

in the cold, in general, brains begin to work better!

[Kep 123]

They will still be in December, they will speak in a completely different way.