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Ukrainian paratroopers, surrounded at the 31-th post, put an ultimatum

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Fighters of the army of Novorossiya declare that in the area of ​​the Frunze settlement (Slavyanoserbsky district) at the 31-th checkpoint are blocked to 70 Ukrainian paratroopers. Representatives of the militia say that the paratroopers were given an ultimatum: they were asked to surrender or leave the encirclement to other Ukrainian units without weaponsotherwise, for the constant attacks on the village "they will be punished."

Ukrainian paratroopers, surrounded at the 31-th post, put an ultimatum


On the eve of ukrosiloviki opened mortar shelling, which killed three civilians. The fire activity of the 31 block was suppressed, after which the Ukrainian paratroopers were offered either a "green" corridor or surrender.

It should be recalled that a few days ago, ukrosiloviki, who were at the 32-th roadblock, accepted the conditions of the army of Novorossia and left the encirclement, leaving many weapons and ammunition in place. At the same time, the National Security Council of Ukraine issued the exit of the Ukrainian military and the National Guard under the "successful breakthrough with the support of armored vehicles", which was very far from reality.

The headquarters of the army of Novorossia is talking about getting intelligence that the active attack of the Ukrainian units on Donetsk can begin on the night of November 2. Head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Armed Forces Muzhenko left for the zone of the so-called "ATO".
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  1. psychologist
    psychologist 1 November 2014 10: 25
    +141
    again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !! and they came to kill! knew where they were going !! I doubt that they would have done the same !!
    1. Stanislav 1978
      Stanislav 1978 1 November 2014 10: 27
      +61
      Quote: psychologist
      again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !! and they came to kill! knew where they were going !! I doubt that they would have done the same !!

      I agree with you - to finish, but not to let go.
      1. Iline
        Iline 1 November 2014 10: 29
        +35
        It looks like the actions of "polite little green men". Same tactic, you don’t find. Gradually squeeze, and as a result, Crimea is in Russia.
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 1 November 2014 10: 44
          +19
          Quote: Iline
          It looks like the actions of "polite little green men". Same tactic, you don’t find. Gradually squeeze, and as a result, Crimea is in Russia.

          New Russia is unlikely to be part of Russia. We would raise the Crimea. And Novorossia only as an independent state. The help, naturally, will not be frail, but to fasten to the Russian budget what dill has done there is unacceptable.
          1. Reader
            Reader 1 November 2014 11: 01
            +119
            Not at all. If desired, we have enough funds to raise the whole of the former Ukraine.

            Moreover, the population of Novorossia is several million people. If the ruble becomes the official currency, this strengthens its position, because demand will increase.

            The next element is the restoration and development of infrastructure. To accomplish this task, all the capacities of our construction industry + plus the internal resources of Donbass will be loaded.

            That is, the accession of New Russia is not only a cost to Russia. With smart work and suppressing the activity of corruption elements (the most difficult task) there will be a big return.

            Plus, the moral aspect is that Russia cannot leave Russian people. Not the 90s in the yard.
            1. Alex_Popovson
              Alex_Popovson 1 November 2014 11: 03
              +22
              Support!
            2. atalef
              atalef 1 November 2014 11: 08
              -103
              Quote: Reader
              Moreover, the population of Novorossia is several million people. If the ruble becomes the official currency, this strengthens its position, because demand will increase.

              No, this means that Novorossia will completely sit on the neck of Russia --- state employees and pensions how will you pay?
              Quote: Reader
              The next element is the restoration and development of infrastructure. To accomplish this task, all the capacities of our construction industry + plus the internal resources of Donbass will be loaded.

              OK - and who will pay for it? (Well, for recovery?)
              Quote: Reader
              That is, the accession of New Russia is not only a cost to Russia. With smart work and suppressing the activity of corruption elements (the most difficult task) there will be a big return.

              Well. Yes . not a return, but an answer. in the form of tougher sanctions, etc.
              Quote: Reader
              Plus, the moral aspect is that Russia cannot leave Russian people. Not the 90s in the yard.

              And where did you get it. that in Donetsk and Lugansk reg. only Russians live?
              Donetsk region 58% - Ukrainians. 26% Russian
              Lugansk region - 57% Ukrainians, 37% - Russians.
              1. Reader
                Reader 1 November 2014 11: 19
                +64
                I answer briefly on the points:
                1) Your burden does not pull
                2) At the initial stage, we (see paragraph 1) then the Donbass with a high probability will itself become the region as a donor for the budget
                3) reorientation from the west to other parts of the world will go faster
                4) the Ukrainization of Russian lands was quite successful, but it is reversible
                1. atalef
                  atalef 1 November 2014 11: 41
                  -107
                  Quote: Reader
                  Your burden does not pull

                  good
                  Quote: Reader
                  At the initial stage, we (see p. 1) then the Donbass with a high probability will itself become a region as a donor for the budget

                  laughed, it's like the Crimea) only worse)

                  Quote: Reader
                  ) faster reorientation from the west to other parts of the world

                  I.e ?
                  Quote: Reader
                  Ukrainization of Russian lands was quite successful, but it is reversible

                  Do you call for ethnic cleansing?
                  1. Reader
                    Reader 1 November 2014 11: 50
                    +44
                    1) Great
                    2) Chuckled, also not bad. Laughing prolongs life.
                    3) That is.
                    4) What are your immediately aggressive associations.
                  2. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 1 November 2014 12: 10
                    +61
                    Quote: atalef
                    You call for ethnic cleansing

                    What for? No ethnic Ukrainians exist in nature - this is an invention of the Austrians, which Lenin supported. Is there russians in here.
                    1. a lex loci
                      a lex loci 1 November 2014 17: 15
                      +11
                      There are ethnic u-kra, which came from a completely different branch of ancient people - dill, in contrast to other cattle, which came from ordinary Australopithecus ...
                    2. viruvalge412ee
                      viruvalge412ee 3 November 2014 14: 14
                      0
                      ... however, Russians are not Ukrainians! or not!?
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 3 November 2014 16: 41
                        +4
                        The so-called Ukrainians-this is part of the Russian people, who are convinced that they are not Russian.
                      2. Setrac
                        Setrac 4 November 2014 00: 44
                        +2
                        Quote: viruvalge412ee
                        ... however, Russians are not Ukrainians! or not!?

                        Surprisingly, Ukrainians living in Russia are Russians, and Ukrainians in Ukraine.
                  3. 73bor
                    73bor 1 November 2014 12: 16
                    +18
                    By the way, for the budget Crimea practically does not make any weather, after the war Ukraine was restored and 10 years have not passed, and there were more abrupt destruction!
                  4. Weniamin
                    Weniamin 1 November 2014 13: 34
                    +47
                    And you giggle in vain. Donetsk region the size of my district. But if we have a dark cockroach, then Donetsk is a territory with a developed infrastructure. By the way, the infrastructure base can be destroyed only by total nuclear bombing. These are the realities of Soviet design! And while Donetsk, with its mineral deposits, is a self-sufficient region. And restore HKH - let people work and they will restore everything themselves. It is only necessary to create conditions.

                    And in general - today is the international day of MEN. With which I am YOU ALL and congratulations.
                    drinks I'm already good. But still in the mind.
                  5. sscha
                    sscha 1 November 2014 14: 22
                    +34
                    atalef, is it you again?
                    I haven’t seen you for a long time.
                    Do you still think that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"?
                    Incidentally, such standards on the part of England and France brought the world to the Second World War.
                    More recent examples are being created in the Middle East.
                    Therefore - do not teach us! We are Russians and you don’t understand us.
                    Therefore, probably on the promised land and live ...
                    To polemicize with you is time to lose ... hi
                  6. ymNIK1970
                    ymNIK1970 2 November 2014 16: 55
                    +9
                    Judge by Zionist Israel? hi We are Russians, we are liberators! Killers are Zionists and Nazis. Butte are healthy to me.
                    1. Reason
                      Reason 4 November 2014 09: 22
                      0
                      Zionism is a political movement for the reconstruction and construction of a Jewish state on its historical land. More this term does not mean anything. You can look at Wikipedia's biographies of David Ben-Gurion and Vladimir Zhabotinsky to understand who the Zionists are.
                  7. aleks 62
                    aleks 62 3 November 2014 10: 40
                    +2
                    laughed, it's like the Crimea) only worse)

                    ..... For a very clever .... Crimea is not financed from the state budget. And from the Reserve Fund, so that on the implementation of social services. programs for Russians will not be reflected in any way (like a nest egg) ..... How much money is in the reserve fund - google it yourself, there the amounts are almost astronomical .... Enough is not only in Crimea .....
                2. Silkway0026
                  Silkway0026 1 November 2014 12: 20
                  +34
                  No, this means that Novorossia will completely sit on the neck of Russia --- state employees and pensions how will you pay?


                  What is it to you? The eternally singing people teach Russia how to live. At home, in your historical homeland, figure it out. And do not meddle in other people's affairs, otherwise they will slap in the face, and you will again scream to the whole world: "Holokoct, give compensation, but more, more!"
                  1. quote
                    quote 2 November 2014 16: 24
                    -25
                    What do you want? Ever sung teach Russia life.
                    You, is it all of Russia ??? Go down to earth! And before you insult someone, put your hand in it and check if it’s justified .... Are you wounded (you simply are not appropriate) !!! (this concerns you personally) And oh Forget eternity. Smerd. (It is written in Russian?) If you haven’t taught it in your childhood, take it for granted, you will be taught all your life, and everyone is not too lazy. This is meant as connivance. Breaking is hardly a science for the weak-willed!
                    1. Alexkorzun
                      Alexkorzun 2 November 2014 17: 16
                      +10
                      And what kind of xren from the hillock are you? singing along with the judiks? Or the yudik itself? Then - a suitcase - station - a historical homeland.
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                4. O_RUS
                  O_RUS 1 November 2014 17: 45
                  +12
                  Quote: Reader
                  Ukrainization of Russian lands was quite successful, but it is reversible


                  I am for sending a nation rejoining fascism into oblivion!

                  And about the block of the post - stop making peace with the killers of civilians ... a court of martial law.
                  1. DShB
                    DShB 2 November 2014 15: 50
                    +5
                    ))))) Ukrainian paratroopers surrounded by (((((this is not paratroopers, but ub-ki - “They have no bottom or tire”) there should be no mercy for anyone !!! With what they came, they found ((((( Betrayed your people, get !!!
              2. mamont5
                mamont5 1 November 2014 11: 38
                +22
                Quote: atalef
                And where did you get it. that in Donetsk and Lugansk reg. only Russians live?
                Donetsk region 58% - Ukrainians. 26% Russian
                Lugansk region - 57% Ukrainians, 37% - Russians.


                In Ukraine, Ukrainians wrote down everyone who agreed and who did not.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 1 November 2014 11: 46
                  -61
                  Quote: mamont5
                  In Ukraine, Ukrainians wrote down everyone who agreed and who did not.

                  Well then do not tell tales.
                  These are the results of the census (that is, as the person indicated himself in the questionnaire, I hope you agree with me that the census tellers did not break their hands)
                  In the Ukrainian passport, nationality is not indicated.
                  1. Reader
                    Reader 1 November 2014 11: 57
                    +33
                    And so it was. I live on the border with Ukraine. When asked by nationality, people answered that they were Russians. Then there was a clarification - Little Russian or Great Russian. Who chose the first one was recorded as a Ukrainian.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 1 November 2014 12: 18
                      -45
                      Quote: Reader
                      . When asked by nationality, people answered that they were Russians. Then there was a clarification - Little Russian or Great Russian. Who chose the first one was recorded as a Ukrainian.

                      Storyteller laughing
                      1. Reader
                        Reader 1 November 2014 12: 26
                        +15
                        Very nice. Reader.
                      2. Starley from the south
                        Starley from the south 4 November 2014 03: 20
                        +1
                        You have a good sense of humor! Just like Cyrano de Bergerac! hi
                      3. Albus
                        Albus 3 November 2014 12: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: atalef
                        Storyteller

                        You’re a little storyteller ...
                    2. Normal ok
                      Normal ok 1 November 2014 13: 31
                      0
                      Rave. This is to say the least.
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                  2. 73bor
                    73bor 1 November 2014 12: 11
                    +23
                    In Soviet times, they began to call Ukrainians those who lived on the territory of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, the nation as a Ukrainian, there’s still not been a hundred years!
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 1 November 2014 12: 24
                      -49
                      Quote: 73bor
                      In Soviet times, they began to call Ukrainians those who lived on the territory of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, the nation as a Ukrainian, there’s still not been a hundred years!

                      The Palestinians have never had such a * nation * for less than 40 years, nevertheless, the people are simply being killed for its rights. laughing
                      1. fif21
                        fif21 1 November 2014 15: 11
                        +15
                        Quote: atalef
                        The Palestinians have never had such a * nation * for less than 40 years, nevertheless, the people are simply being killed for its rights.
                        A naive Jewish youth, your verbal nose has already pretty much got everyone. Go to the forest and lie to your master, the black monkey.
                      2. quote
                        quote 2 November 2014 16: 44
                        -14
                        A naive Jewish youth, your verbal nose has already pretty much got everyone. Go to the forest and lie to your master, the black monkey.
                        Do you also have a conversation with your relatives? And do not write for everyone, diarrhea is worthy!
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                      4. serezhasoldatow
                        serezhasoldatow 1 November 2014 17: 16
                        +4
                        You, too, are not millennial-a Jew as a nation, in my opinion, less than 100 years old
                      5. atalef
                        atalef 1 November 2014 20: 35
                        -20
                        Quote: serezhasoldatow
                        You, too, are not millennial-a Jew as a nation, in my opinion, less than 100 years old

                        Tell jesus and the apostles laughing
                      6. Starik72
                        Starik72 2 November 2014 13: 42
                        +14
                        Atalef open the bible, the land of PALESTINE but not ISRAEL is indicated there. It was you Jews who were not Jews.
                      7. Amakc
                        Amakc 3 November 2014 01: 53
                        +6
                        The Jews have a homeland, its Joseph identified, in the Far East, the capital of Birobidzhan ... Stopudovo guys in Africa without a compass ...
                      8. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 08: 46
                        0
                        Since when did the half-educated seminarian of Georgian origin decide for the Jewish people: where should the people’s homeland be?
                      9. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 08: 44
                        +1
                        Palestine is the name of a geographic region. Something like: the Sahara Desert, or the Central Russian Upland. The "State of Palestine" has never existed in history.
                        Israel is a restored, after a break of two thousand years, state of the Jewish people, on its ancestral land.
                        So simple.
                      10. Victor Demchenko
                        Victor Demchenko 2 November 2014 15: 22
                        +5
                        but for me it’s Arab and in Africa, Arab! in 71 I dealt with them, worse than zapadentsy, stupid, arrogant, and ... wild! Well, no way to agree with them! fool
                    2. 29261
                      29261 2 November 2014 08: 23
                      +6
                      Yes, there is no such nation, and never has been! There were people who lived on the outskirts of the Russian Empire and called them the outskirts, but what appeared in the end was just rabble.
                      1. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 08: 47
                        +1
                        This "rabble" created "Voevoda", "Well done" and "Mriya" (on which Buran was transported).
                        So, a reminder of historical facts.
                    3. Setrac
                      Setrac 3 November 2014 12: 57
                      +3
                      Quote: 73bor
                      nation as a Ukrainian, and even a hundred years gone!

                      Even now they do not exist as a nation, the "Ukrainian" nation has not yet taken shape.
                  3. extreme
                    extreme 1 November 2014 13: 15
                    +28
                    The Ukrainian as a nationality is a term of the Soviet system of governing a vast territory. No more. The fact that people called themselves Ukrainians during the census is normal, they did not even think about the difference with the Russian - for the bottom of this difference (for the majority, not all of course) was not. But if you now conduct a survey asking the question - are you Russian or Ukrainian? then the answer will again not be about nationality, but about the civilizational choice. Which you, too, by the way, judging by the statements made. And he's wrong. I think so. But with such a checkbox, how do you get used to "change clothes" in a second?
                    1. andrew42
                      andrew42 3 November 2014 19: 07
                      +2
                      About "change in a second" amused. But it’s true. Atalef is killed for the record by nationality that he will not be killed. In my school class in Soviet times, there were at least half of the Jews. But only my friend Igor was honestly written "Jew", so his father insisted that he inspires respect. All the rest were "Russian", and did not miss the opportunity, as they say now, to troll my friend. It looked disgusting. But nevertheless, it is more decent than the current "Ukrainian" antics. You never know who is recorded by whom? - The main thing is who you are with, and in the name of what.
                  4. hohryakov066
                    hohryakov066 2 November 2014 10: 09
                    +3
                    In Soviet it was indicated what? My wife, born in Kyrgyzstan and living in the Urals, had a "Ukrainian" in her passport. Another relative calls his nationality "Turksib" in general. the devil himself will not understand how much and who is mixed there!
                  5. Sergey Medvedev
                    Sergey Medvedev 2 November 2014 12: 48
                    +3
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well then do not tell tales.


                    I had a colleague, a Crimean Tatar, was born in the Ukrainian SSR, according to documents - a Ukrainian. Another was an Avar, a resident of Azerbaijan, according to documents - an Azerbaijani. Such miracles happened in Soviet times.
                    1. Starley from the south
                      Starley from the south 4 November 2014 03: 32
                      +1
                      What a long way to go, Gennady Khazanov had a nationality in his passport in the column, do not believe it, Ossetians!
              3. Aleksander
                Aleksander 1 November 2014 11: 39
                +30
                And how does Israel receive thousands and thousands of immigrants? And yet she is still and is calling. And these pensions, lifting, housing for them, construction on occupation. territories (tougher. sanctions) - such expenses, such expenses ...
                1. atalef
                  atalef 1 November 2014 11: 52
                  -53
                  Quote: Aleksander
                  And how does Israel receive thousands and thousands of immigrants? And yet she is still and is calling. And these pensions, lifting, housing for them, construction on occupation. territories (tougher. sanctions) - such expenses, such expenses ...

                  Well, actually there is a difference.
                  We drive to yourself and only your .
                  You feel the difference.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 1 November 2014 12: 11
                    +32
                    Quote: atalef
                    Feel the difference

                    We, too.
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                  3. Aleksander
                    Aleksander 1 November 2014 13: 39
                    +17
                    Quote: atalef
                    Well, actually there is a difference. We drive to ourselves and only ours. You feel the difference.


                    Made fun of only their- among my friends and acquaintances who have left for "their"своихless than half. And in Novorossia, indeed, almost all have their own, from time immemorial.

                    "To itself" -Novorossiysk region has its own, from the moment of its development and settlement.

                    Israel is well aware that the main wealth of any country is people, despite all the costs.
                    Russia must also remember this ...
                  4. IOwTZ
                    IOwTZ 1 November 2014 13: 57
                    +12
                    "well, actually that is the difference" - ahahahahahahahahahahahahah;
                    "we are taking to ourselves and only our own" - azahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha;
                    "You feel the difference" - ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

                    Further I won’t even waste time commenting on you. Go salty to the sea.
                  5. serezhasoldatow
                    serezhasoldatow 1 November 2014 17: 19
                    +18
                    Crawl around the world. If you carry your own, then Kolomyisky, Yaytsenyuk, Turchinov, Tymoshenko, etc. etc. why not pick up
                  6. Gomunkul
                    Gomunkul 1 November 2014 21: 28
                    +10
                    Well, actually there is a difference.
                    We drive to ourselves and only ours.
                    You feel the difference.
                    It seems that statistics are lying that the most numerous people on Earth are Chinese. wink laughing
                  7. Rostov
                    Rostov 1 November 2014 23: 22
                    +2
                    Quote: atalef
                    We drive to ourselves and only ours


                    Well, that’s what you think, but some of your compatriots think differently

                    And Us Rat (5) IL August 26, 2014 13:11 ↑

                    This is where your main fallacy lies, all MY compatriots live in MY country.
                    And I don't really care about the Jews living "somewhere out there," they are a product of that place and the culture in which they chose to continue living.
                  8. hohryakov066
                    hohryakov066 2 November 2014 10: 12
                    0
                    Aha! Luarsab Giguashvili or Ngomo Darishu well, right "their" painfully! Or they have been hiding all this time (since birth).
                  9. Starik72
                    Starik72 2 November 2014 13: 48
                    0
                    You Jews do not exist as such, read the Bible.
                    1. peter mechkaev
                      peter mechkaev 3 November 2014 12: 09
                      +1
                      But why? I did the circumcision ... put on the paisas ... and now you are already chosen by God.
                  10. battery
                    battery 2 November 2014 14: 45
                    +6
                    Quote: atalef
                    We drive to ourselves and only ours
                    its means? it turns out that the rest are not their own, it means not people, it means subhuman (undermarshi), you know 1933 in one then European country, too, it began that way, although you already hell knows how long you live with the ideology of fascism and call it torah and with the principle of what " sho you are God's chosen people and the rest are -goi "in the translation of universal humanity, this is called the theory of racial superiority. That is also why books of almost all religions are present in bookstores (in almost any major city in the world, if you find a good bookstore there) you can buy the Koran, the Bible and many others, depending on the host country, but the Torah cannot? Doesn't it mean that a simple man in the street will read it and not only find out your principles of life and attitude towards other peoples, all the world's Jewish pogroms written in the Torah will seem to you "God's chosen" harmless joke
                    1. Reason
                      Reason 4 November 2014 08: 49
                      0
                      The Torah is the Pentateuch of Moses, i.e. the first five parts of the Old Testament. Buy a Bible and read on health.
                      "Nesvoi" are those who do not fall under the Law of Return (in the wiki you can read).
                  11. Michael_59
                    Michael_59 3 November 2014 07: 55
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    We drive to ourselves and only ours.

                    Lies
                  12. EDELVEISS
                    EDELVEISS 3 November 2014 09: 27
                    +4
                    And when, finally, will you take them all away? Tired of everyone, no strength !!!
                  13. aleks 62
                    aleks 62 3 November 2014 10: 48
                    0
                    ....... We saw these "friends" in the 90s ..... Masha, Petit, Vanya ..... When the zhituha became shitty (90s), all the crooks rushed to look for Jewish roots in themselves in the family ... And they ran ... You have almost no real Jews there, only opportunists ... Sorry - crooks ...
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              5. VadimSt
                VadimSt 1 November 2014 12: 00
                +6
                Did you have a census with us?
              6. abdrah
                abdrah 1 November 2014 12: 11
                +29
                Quote: atalef
                Donetsk region 58% - Ukrainians. 26% Russians Lugansk region - 57% Ukrainians, 37% Russians.

                but maybe still like that ?? ...
                1. Horst78
                  Horst78 1 November 2014 14: 21
                  +10
                  Quote: abdrah
                  abdrah (2) BY Today, 12: 11 ↑

                  Quote: atalef
                  Donetsk region 58% - Ukrainians. 26% Russians Lugansk region - 57% Ukrainians, 37% Russians.

                  but maybe still like that ?? ...


                  Ukrainians? And who is this?
                  1. aleks 62
                    aleks 62 3 November 2014 10: 52
                    +3
                    ..... Ukrainians? Who's that?...

                    ..... It's like I ...... The surname ends in "O", but I dream in Russian, I think and I speak it too .... hi
                    1. abdrah
                      abdrah 4 November 2014 01: 21
                      +1
                      Hello. My surname also ends with "O", I live in Belarus (Belarus until the moment of the "segregation" of the fraternal republics), I speak and think in Russian, although I can speak, read, write and understand as a great multitude of the population of Brest and Belarus ( albeit with grammatical errors) in Belarusian, Ukrainian, Polish.My ancestors are Poles and Ukrainians, Catholics and Orthodox, relatives are still primly looking one branch at another. I consider myself and my children Russian, that is, born in the USSR. I sincerely don’t understand those who want to live "like in Europe" but I haven’t seen anything in my life except TV. I believe that the day is not far off when we will gather in one great country, different peoples and nationalities, but with one goal - to free ourselves from the dominance and oppression of world capital and build a truly bright future and a dream state!
                2. Reason
                  Reason 4 November 2014 08: 50
                  0
                  No not like this. The separation does not take place according to the linguistic principle, but according to the principle of loyalty to one's own country - Ukraine.
              7. Gronsky
                Gronsky 1 November 2014 12: 57
                +12
                Quote: atalef
                And where did you get it. that in Donetsk and Lugansk reg. only Russians live?
                Donetsk region 58% - Ukrainians. 26% Russian
                Lugansk region - 57% Ukrainians, 37% - Russians.

                The main thing is that yours there and a quarter of a percent is not typed. So, let’s go back to your homeland, to your own, there and practice the miner-miners. Or is it not interesting there? Well, yes, there’s nobody ... there are only EuropeEs around. S ... ka
              8. milann
                milann 1 November 2014 13: 24
                +11
                Until recently, as far as I know, in New Russia, 80% of the population who became Ukrainians according to their passport considered the Russian as their native language, according to the census of the 20 of the last century, when nationality was recorded at the person’s place of residence. Therefore, our native people are there and you can’t abandon them under any circumstances and you do not need to look for immediate benefits, but think about the future of Russia.
                1. Reason
                  Reason 4 November 2014 08: 52
                  0
                  Your "Novorossiya" is a piece of territory that was stuck in the 70s. Pensioners came to the polling stations; and the youth, obviously, will gradually eat away.
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 4 November 2014 09: 23
                    0
                    Wait and see. Pensioners go to liberate Kiev from the Nazis and the truth is far away.
                    1. Reason
                      Reason 4 November 2014 09: 32
                      0
                      You can see the figures of emigration from Russia for this year. It is not pensioners who leave, as you know, but young people and middle-aged people, professionals. The same will happen with Novorossiya. There will remain a desert area where civilization once was.
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 November 2014 10: 38
                        0
                        Well show your numbers. And at the same time, a trend over the past 20 years - how many have left before, how many now, how many have returned, how many foreigners have arrived.
                      2. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 10: 48
                        0
                        The figure for the past year is about 300 thousand people (in my opinion, I saw this recently at the maxpark - there was a whole article on this topic). Your question about the trend is clear: you want to compare with the 90s, when oil was five to ten times cheaper.
                        You don't understand the main reason for leaving. She is political. People do not like that instead of a real parliament, where legislators argue with each other, building each letter in the laws, there are some people who have never bothered to meet with their voters. Four parties voting the same for the most absurd decisions. The press that glorifies the Russian-Ukrainian war (Prokhanov was read in Komsomolskaya Pravda a couple of days ago?), Etc. etc.
                        A separate topic is economic. The ruble is getting cheaper, but the Russian man, as you know, is ready to bear the hardships and hardships, if he knows what he suffers for. What is the national goal? Where is the country going? What are the ideals preached and professed? There are no answers. It would seem that the Russian Orthodox Church had to exert all its authority in order to stop the war in which the Orthodox kill the Orthodox - but no, the Patriarch disappeared from sight. People feel falsehood, people do not see prospects and goals - because people are leaving, and this flow will increase.
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 November 2014 12: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Reason
                        About the trend, your question is clear: you want to compare with the 90s

                        That is, the trend is positive. For Russians, I mean.
                        Quote: Reason
                        You do not understand the main reason for leaving. She is political.

                        When people were starving, he was only interested in politics. Original.
                        Quote: Reason
                        What is the national goal? Where is the country going? What are the ideals preached and professed?

                        The revival of the Great Power, which the traitors tried to destroy.
                        Quote: Reason
                        The Russian Orthodox Church had to exert all its authority to stop the war in which the Orthodox kill the Orthodox

                        Orthodox? You do not know, but dill has its own church - they are not Orthodox.
                        Quote: Reason
                        and this flow will increase.

                        To dream is not harmful.
                      4. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 12: 58
                        0
                        "Great Power Rebirth" is combined with things like fully automatic flight and landing of Buran; or the successful landing of the descent vehicle on Venus (the USSR did this three times, and no one has done it yet).
                        Squeezing the territories of neighboring countries with the help of local criminals does not in any way fall under the concept of "revival".
                        --
                        I don't know who the "dill" are. My father was Ukrainian from Poltava, my mother was Russian from Vologda. What is happening now seems to me a massive madness, which is fueled by hardened crooks like Prokhanov and others like him.
                        Ukraine has its own Orthodox Church, and it now also stands in the defense of its country. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are not only Galicians; Dnipropetrovsk, Nikolaev, Melitopol, etc. are fighting against Donbass terrorists. They defend their country from the criminal rabble called "people's republics". Did you hear the news? Zakharchenko and Plotnitsky have already demanded that the Ukrainian authorities provide pensioners. What place did pensioners think when they voted to leave Ukraine? A referendum is a double-edged weapon.
                        ---
                        I do not dream; these are just facts.
                      5. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 November 2014 14: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Reason
                        combined with such things

                        On October 29, 2014, at 10 hours 09 Moscow time, from the launch site of platform 31 of the Baikonur Cosmodrome, the Soyuz 2.1a launch vehicle with the Progress M-25M cargo cargo vehicle was launched. At 10:18 Moscow time, "Progress M-25M" routinely separated from the third stage of the launch vehicle in orbit of an artificial Earth satellite.
                        In October, they successfully began regular work in orbit as part of a spacecraft developed by Academician M.F. Reshetnev "correction blocks based on Hall-type plasma engines of a new generation, which were developed, tested and manufactured by specialists of the State Research Center FSUE" Keldysh Center ".
                        November 1 leadership GKNPTs them. Khrunicheva reported that the new Angara A5 heavy launch vehicle, the world's first rocket, made according to the modular principle (formed as a designer), underwent a comprehensive diagnosis and is fully ready to launch from the Plesetsk cosmodrome.
                        Quote: Reason
                        Squeezing the territories of neighboring countries with the help of local criminals does not in any way fall under the concept of "revival"

                        Exactly so - therefore, if we talk about the separation of some "independent", then within the boundaries in which it entered (that is, begged to be saved from the Turks), and these are a couple of districts, even without Kiev.
                        Quote: Reason
                        scorched crooks such as Prokhanov and others like him.

                        Type Obama and others like him.
                        Quote: Reason
                        Ukraine has its own Orthodox church

                        The Orthodox Church in Russia, which I don’t know, but I already wrote about the attitude towards apostates.
                        Quote: Reason
                        I do not dream; these are just facts.

                        Quote: Reason
                        APU - it is not only Galicians; Dnepropetrovsk, nikolayevets, Melitopolites, etc. are fighting against Donbass terrorists

                        You forgot the Polish PMCs and others like them.
                        Quote: Reason
                        I do not dream; these are just facts

                        There are a lot of facts, by the way Can you find out how many people have left "Nezalezhnaya" during its existence?
                      6. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 14: 21
                        0
                        About rockets it is known; I mean deep space ... Americans have already circled all the planets of the solar system; Cassini is working around Saturn; Huygens has landed on Titan; next year, New Horizons will reach Pluto. This is so for comparison.
                        ---
                        Your other "arguments" are off-topic; usual trollism, "turn of the arrows".
                        Success.
                      7. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 November 2014 15: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Reason
                        I mean deep space ... Americans have already circled all the planets of the solar system

                        Did the Americans have their own Gorbachev? Work is going to do everything.
                        Quote: Reason
                        Your other "arguments" are off-topic; usual trollism, "turn of the arrows"

                        True? That is, this is a card of another "Nezalezhnaya"? After the defeat of the punishers, did they find those killed with foreign documents? All who can not flee from Ukraine, and the further the more?
                        Your "arguments" are initially off-topic; usual trollism, "turn of the arrows".
              9. persei
                persei 1 November 2014 13: 49
                +3
                not in the passport, the nationality column is in the brain!
              10. serezhasoldatow
                serezhasoldatow 1 November 2014 17: 13
                +3
                Probably not Russian, you don’t understand our SOUL !!!
              11. Fantazer911
                Fantazer911 1 November 2014 20: 52
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Reader
                Your burden does not pull

                good
                Quote: Reader
                At the initial stage, we (see p. 1) then the Donbass with a high probability will itself become a region as a donor for the budget

                laughed, it's like the Crimea) only worse)

                Quote: Reader
                ) faster reorientation from the west to other parts of the world

                I.e ?
                Quote: Reader
                Ukrainization of Russian lands was quite successful, but it is reversible

                Do you call for ethnic cleansing?



                Interesting. and Transnistria very much around the neck of Russia?
              12. Starik72
                Starik72 2 November 2014 13: 33
                +4
                Atalef! Well, stop getting dirty here please! Do not you think the thinker doesn’t work at all. It’s a pity to even put down cons. As we say: EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD CAN BE SUITABLE TO BUILD EVERYTHING, and do not forget the Russian proverb: You can fuck an elephant with a scop.
              13. Minsk
                Minsk 2 November 2014 19: 42
                +5
                A Jew cannot understand that Russian is not a nationality. And not everything can be measured in money. hi
                1. Reason
                  Reason 4 November 2014 08: 55
                  0
                  And the Russian (you) can understand that the Jews were the backbone of the Soviet military-industrial complex?
                  Again, in what money will you measure the fact that in the ranks of the Soviet army about half a million Jews fought against German Nazism, of which two hundred thousand died?
                  Do not be shy, measure in any currency, since you are an expert on a national issue.
              14. Zaus
                Zaus 2 November 2014 22: 38
                +2
                "And where did you get the idea that only Russians live in Donetsk and Lugansk regions?"
                Donetsk region 58% - Ukrainians. 26% Russian
                Luhansk region - 57% Ukrainians, 37% - Russians. "

                This is where such data come from? homeless people, etc ... And more ... It was 50 years ago near Donetsk. Basically, an adequate Russian-speaking population, who consider themselves Russians. The only division is visitors from Lviv, zapadentsy. And about the nationality "Ukrainian" is like with nationality "American", on a territorial basis. After all, there is no nation "Russian" ......
              15. peter mechkaev
                peter mechkaev 3 November 2014 12: 00
                0
                There were times and much worse ... And we will accept, and we will restore, and we will give out a pension. We are not used to it.
              16. takto.onotak
                takto.onotak 3 November 2014 22: 38
                0
                Sorry minus is accidental! Important issues have been raised and cannot be resolved simply by yelling "hurray"!
              17. takto.onotak
                takto.onotak 3 November 2014 22: 38
                0
                Sorry minus is accidental! Important issues have been raised and cannot be resolved simply by yelling "hurray"!
            3. Nikxnumx
              Nikxnumx 1 November 2014 23: 53
              0
              Golden words, everything is correct.
            4. Starik72
              Starik72 2 November 2014 13: 26
              0
              I agree with you READER !!! If we recall how we were recovering after the war of 45, and this will be a powerful blow to capitalism-fascism.
            5. kuz363
              kuz363 2 November 2014 18: 18
              0
              Look at the draft budget of Russia for 2015. You will see that Russia itself does not have enough money, not like for the former Ukraine. Articles on health care, education, social benefits and more were cut.
            6. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 4 November 2014 03: 14
              0
              Quote: Reader
              Not at all. If desired, we have enough funds to raise the whole of the former Ukraine ...

              .

              Incorrect formulation of the question. All dill that will survive should, as a gratuitous labor force, like Wehrmacht soldiers after the Second World War, restore New Russia. The only way!
          2. Aleksander
            Aleksander 1 November 2014 11: 18
            +9
            Quote: Koshak
            And Novorossia only as an independent state. The help, naturally, will not be frail, but to fasten to the Russian budget what dill has done there is unacceptable.


            And how Russia used to contain the Novorossiysk Territory! Such a burden on the budget was ....
            1. jjj
              jjj 1 November 2014 11: 30
              +9
              In any case, Novorossia will be restored by the joint efforts of the region and Russia. So better let it be outside of Ukraine
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            3. atalef
              atalef 1 November 2014 11: 54
              -35
              Quote: Aleksander
              And how Russia used to contain the Novorossiysk Territory! Such a burden on the budget was ....

              comment about anything.
              1. Aleksander
                Aleksander 1 November 2014 13: 46
                +13
                Quote: atalef
                comment about anything.


                Comment about anything .....
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              3. Starik72
                Starik72 2 November 2014 13: 58
                +2
                Atalef. Please write who are OLIMA, SABRA, VITIMA. How do they differ from each other and how they relate to each other. And then I will say who YOU ​​are.
                1. Reason
                  Reason 4 November 2014 08: 57
                  0
                  Olim - these are immigrants (more precisely, repatriates) in the first generation.
                  Sabra are the indigenous people of Israel.
                  In general, Israel is a mixture of the most diverse Jewish people (and not only)
                  Origin: Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Falashi, Druze, Circassians, Slavs, Armenians, etc. International, in general.
              4. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 2 November 2014 15: 32
                +2
                just och! about the fact that under Soviet power, Ukraine was abruptly subsidized, to the detriment of Russia, I say this and declare specifically. an example - yes please! in Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and other regions of Ukraine, there were no problems with the gasification of villages and villages, but in Russia and still 65% of villages are not gasified !!! interesting, and for what babosy gasification of Hohland was carried out? request
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 4 November 2014 09: 26
                  0
                  Quote: Viktor Demchenko
                  Ukraine was abruptly subsidized, to the detriment of Russia

                  Western Ukraine-the very Svidomo. Under the USSR, they were kept by Russia, and after the partition of the country, New Russia.
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          4. Ursidae
            Ursidae 1 November 2014 12: 38
            +5
            And you would have to get ready for anything ...
            So that the rivers of milk flow between the jelly banks, and on the cheese steeps - marble palaces!
            No, gentlemen are good! This will not work!
            And it’s not scary. Look at what open spaces are being developed from scratch, neither roads, nor population, but here is a densely populated territory in favorable climatic conditions ...
            It is necessary to look wide!
          5. Wad
            Wad 1 November 2014 15: 52
            +8
            And why not, raise the price of gas for dill and this difference in the restoration of New Russia.
          6. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 1 November 2014 17: 12
            -4
            Crimea will rise with our help, people there are not so brainwashed as in Russia.
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas 1 November 2014 20: 02
              +5
              Quote: serezhasoldatow
              Crimea will rise with our help, people there are not so brainwashed as in Russia.

              What is it more brainwashed in Russia? Or write more carefully if you mean something else.
          7. al-kazaz
            al-kazaz 3 November 2014 01: 30
            +1
            If you introduce an article in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation with confiscation (including children and so on) and really put it into practice, reduce the number of managers - (for example, I just wonder how much the region is, then its government is obligatory, it will soon begin to coin its coin) well and other things that have long been known to everyone, you can raise the Crimea and the budget will be pulled not only by the Olympus Games, the World Cup, but also the Republic
          8. boozer
            boozer 3 November 2014 17: 50
            0
            And still you have to restore everything, help, they will be part of Russia or as independent states ...
        2. mihasik
          mihasik 1 November 2014 11: 50
          +5
          Quote: Iline
          It looks like the actions of "polite little green men". Same tactic, you don’t find. Gradually squeeze, and as a result, Crimea is in Russia.

          Yes. Only in the Crimea 2 people died, one at the hands of a sniper, the second in the crowd was crushed in Simferopol, and in Novorossia thousands and mostly peaceful ...
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 1 November 2014 12: 13
            +9
            Quote: mihasik
            one at the hands of a sniper

            A sniper shot dead two - a serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and a Cossack militia. This was an attempt to provoke riots. And how many of these snipers were intercepted by "polite people" we are unlikely to know.
            1. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 4 November 2014 03: 57
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Quote: mihasik
              one at the hands of a sniper

              A sniper shot dead two - a serviceman of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and a Cossack militia. This was an attempt to provoke riots. And how many of these snipers were intercepted by "polite people" we are unlikely to know.

              Why so? We learn, years through 10 or 20.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 4 November 2014 10: 44
                0
                Quote: Starley from the South
                We learn, so in 10 or 20 years.

                Maybe.
        3. Lukich
          Lukich 1 November 2014 17: 12
          +4
          Quote: Iline
          It looks like the actions of "polite little green men". Same tactic, you don’t find. Gradually squeeze, and as a result, Crimea is in Russia.

          this is not the case in the Crimea did not shoot and did not kill
        4. aleks 62
          aleks 62 3 November 2014 10: 34
          0
          ...... In Crimea, no one "squeezed" them ... Played the factor of surprise .... And do not forget that in Crimea there are a lot, if not the vast majority of servicemen were local or from the South East ...
      2. sanja.grw
        sanja.grw 1 November 2014 10: 38
        +2
        I agree with you - to finish, but not to let go.

        Yes, the campaign is already tired of mowing this dill, I mean the game with one goal
      3. DRA-88
        DRA-88 1 November 2014 10: 48
        +18
        Quote: Stanislav 1978
        I agree with you - to finish, but not to let go.

        What a bloodthirsty you are! Avoiding casualties in war is a special art, and re-agitating an enemy to your side is aerobatics!
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        2. mazhnikof.Niko
          mazhnikof.Niko 1 November 2014 11: 07
          +8
          Quote: DRA-88
          What a bloodthirsty you are! Avoiding casualties in war is a special art, and re-agitating an enemy to your side is aerobatics!


          Exactly! In the civilian (first) 50% of the "tsarist" officers accepted the revolution and became "military specialists", which determined the victory of the Red Army.

          That is what proper propaganda is. Especially in the CIVIL WAR!
      4. Finches
        Finches 1 November 2014 10: 49
        +21
        Comrades, if these are not Natsiks and not Guardsmen, who are truly illegal, but soldiers of the regular army, then we must act within the framework of the rules of the war, with respect to combatants! If there are proven crimes of these military personnel, then they must be tried by a court of the military tribunal! If they refuse to surrender, then, naturally, they need to be destroyed!
        The proposal to withdraw and surrender weapons, this firstly emphasizes the nobility and strength of the militia, and realizing the strength, these soldiers next time, if they arrive by order, then with other thoughts in their heads, will instantly go over to the side of the militia!
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 1 November 2014 11: 09
          +6
          Quote: Finches
          ...
          The proposal to withdraw and surrender weapons, this firstly emphasizes the nobility and strength of the militia, and realizing the strength, these soldiers next time, if they arrive by order, then with other thoughts in their heads, will instantly go over to the side of the militia!

          Or desert - also an option.
          1. Finches
            Finches 1 November 2014 11: 17
            +7
            I completely agree with you! In the end, peaceful surrender is not only the salvation of the lives of soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the lives of soldiers of New Russia!
        2. Simple
          Simple 1 November 2014 11: 33
          +3
          Quote: Finches
          .... if they arrive by order, then with other thoughts in their head, in an instant they will go over to the side of the militia!



          Do not forget, many families, as well as their parents in the rest of Ukraine.

          When exiting through the "green corridor" fighters should be photographed.

          And immediately check with the file cabinet.
          1. Finches
            Finches 1 November 2014 11: 39
            +2
            The presence of an idiotic craving for Facebook popularity, even a nasty one for the majority of ukrovoyak, suggests that they themselves took photos of themselves for a long time and put them on the network laughing
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      6. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 1 November 2014 10: 59
        +15
        Quote: Stanislav 1978
        I agree with you - to finish, but not to let go

        An exact, powerful shelling, and then the offer will be given, if it is refused, then repeated, and when they are exchanged after captivity, the SBU will start to sew, and if not, then they will definitely go to war after such a mess ...



        Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
        1. Reason
          Reason 4 November 2014 08: 58
          0
          And the fact that a Russian who raised his hand against a Ukrainian loses the right to be called Russian did not occur to him?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 4 November 2014 09: 29
            0
            Did the Russians start shooting? Maidan was started by dill, which was funded from the United States, and Russia was forced to defend its compatriots.
            1. Reason
              Reason 4 November 2014 09: 40
              0
              A compatriot is a person who has the same citizenship. You attacked another country, i.e. people who have different citizenship.
              Maidan was a popular uprising against the feudal regime that established Yanukovych. In general, the Maidan managed to almost disperse, but Yanukovych ordered the students to be beaten (although they already had return train tickets). An action of intimidation led to the fact that the next day about 700 thousand people went to the Maidan. Can you imagine what a bunch of 700 thousand cookies would look like? So it's not about the Americans. You have relied on a hijacker felon. It is strange that he lasted so long.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 4 November 2014 10: 43
                0
                Quote: Reason
                somewhere on the Maidan went somewhere 700 thousand people

                They used the magic of coiled space? 700000 - this is a rather sickly crowd, I can’t even imagine how they fit in there.
                Quote: Reason
                A compatriot is a person who has the same citizenship

                The so-called Ukraine is a part of Russia, illegally torn away from it, half (minimum) of the population of which has never considered itself do not understand who.
                Quote: Reason
                You attacked another country

                They did not attack, but provided assistance. If they attacked, it would be like in 2008 - a couple of days and the "president" with a tie in his mouth.
                1. Reason
                  Reason 4 November 2014 10: 57
                  0
                  1) Watch video recordings of events; I can’t help you anymore.
                  2) You do not know the history of your own country. The Ukrainian SSR (of which Ukraine is the legal successor) is one of the founding states of the UN, with clearly defined borders at that time.
                  3) Initially, yes. But after that, the deployment of the resistance movement to foreign occupation would begin. If you do not believe it, remember that even Stalin was not able to cope with Bandera; Khrushchev eventually concluded with them something like a non-aggression pact. Have you ever had to fight against the partisan movement in a country where more than 40 million people and 80% hate you for invading their home?
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 4 November 2014 12: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Reason
                    Watch videos of events; I can’t help anything else

                    Are these the ones from games, or with toys?
                    Quote: Reason
                    The Ukrainian SSR (of which Ukraine is the legal successor) is one of the founding states of the UN

                    What a hoary antiquity. For centuries, these territories have been part of Russia and no one thought about any borders.
                    Quote: Reason
                    But after that, the deployment of the resistance movement to foreign occupation would begin

                    Already funny.
                    Quote: Reason
                    even Stalin failed to cope with Bandera; Khrushchev eventually concluded with them something like a non-aggression pact

                    Khrushchev was the forerunner of Gorbachev and one of the killers of Stalin. if not for him, then this shusher would be outweighed in a couple of years.
                    Quote: Reason
                    80% hate you for invading their house?

                    Are you talking about those who are running away from conscription in the ATO with all their might?
                    1. Reason
                      Reason 4 November 2014 13: 04
                      0
                      Stalin was stopped by the nomenclature - she realized that he was going to conduct another rotation of the 1937 type. The ruling class, of course, did not tolerate this.
                      ---
                      I mean that in Ukraine the army was completely destroyed; but even in the conditions of foreign aggression, she managed to recover to a combat-ready state, and by August 25 th clamped Donbass gopnik into two cauldrons.
                      ---
                      Useless conversation; We speak different languages.
                      1. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 November 2014 14: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Reason
                        Stalin stopped nomenclature

                        That is, you do not deny the killing.
                        Quote: Reason
                        but even in conditions of foreign aggression

                        So after all, what kind of aggression - how many units of the RF Armed Forces are on the territory of New Russia? Three lost paratroopers?
                        Quote: Reason
                        and by August 25th she clamped the Donbass Gopnik into two cauldrons

                        Which ones? I once heard about how the militia of Novorossia several times surrounded and smashed enemy units, and there were cases when Russia hosted these fighter-soldiers. So where were the defenders of New Russia surrounded?
                        Quote: Reason
                        Useless conversation; We speak different languages

                        I don’t know which one you are in, but I am in Russian.
                      2. Reason
                        Reason 4 November 2014 14: 25
                        0
                        1) I don't know; most likely Beria tried. It was he who then said to the guards "Comrade Stalin is sleeping, do not wake him up" when Stalin lay passed out after Kondraty.
                        2) Why do we need to play misunderstanding here? All YouTube is packed with videos about troops and equipment, including Grads in the capitals of the "people's republics".
                        3) Once again: see the map of hostilities on August 25th, i.e. at the time of the invasion of your army.
                        The conversation is meaningless - your posts are not a discussion, but propaganda.
                      3. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 4 November 2014 15: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Reason
                        I do not know; most likely Beria tried

                        But it was Khrushchev who got out, and so friskly that it seemed as though he was preparing in advance.
                        Quote: Reason
                        including Grads in the capitals of the "people's republics".

                        In fact, there are enough "Gradov" without Russia - where are the numerous units of the RF Armed Forces fighting in Novorossiya?
                        Quote: Reason
                        look at the map of the fighting on August 25th, i.e. at the time of the invasion of your army

                        So where is our army? Militiamen punished punishers, mercenaries and fascists around the neck - it was like that. But where are the parts of the RF Armed Forces?
      7. Koresh
        Koresh 1 November 2014 12: 21
        +13
        How I do not like such comments, the site turns into a censor! And call fooled and drugged people (dill, dill) is outright racism! I just can no longer read such comments from the fraternal (I think the Russians are fraternal people) people, even if I was born in western Ukraine. Start writing adequate comments and to the point.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 1 November 2014 22: 01
          +6
          And who is stopping the fooled and intoxicated people from opening their eyes (not to the TV), turning on the brain and starting to think, analyze, compare!
          1. Koresh
            Koresh 1 November 2014 23: 19
            +4
            Propaganda gets in the way .... very strong propaganda comes from niche TVs. I’m both our and your news, I have a connection with those who are fighting on the side of the Armed Forces and volunteer units. I compare news from TV and from first persons, and what is shown on TV is an absolute lie. Until conscripts (namely conscripts) begin to return home (alive) people will not know anything. Therefore, please show at least mercy in comments. People on the front lines (both from the side of the Armed Forces and the militia) know better what is happening in our country, because after all there is a civil war going on.
        2. Kahlan amnell
          Kahlan amnell 1 November 2014 23: 24
          +6
          Yura, the comments you complain about are a reflection of the fatigue from that crazy hatredthat rules the ball in Ukraine. Even my husband, a very calm and reasonable person, is already distorting from a combination of yellow and blue colors.
          1. Reason
            Reason 4 November 2014 08: 59
            0
            Any normal person does not like when a foreign state invades the territory of his country.
        3. Rostov
          Rostov 1 November 2014 23: 31
          +2
          Quote: Koresh
          the site turns into a censor! Start writing adequate comments and essentially


          I also drew attention to this fact. Personally, I have not seen here many respected old-timers for a long time.
        4. Madnesz
          Madnesz 2 November 2014 08: 40
          +1
          Everything is very simple: not every Ukrainian is dill, and not every dill is Ukrainian. Only for some reason the majority. But. Avakov - dill. Where is he Ukrainian?
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      9. Romass
        Romass 1 November 2014 16: 25
        0
        It is also necessary to omit. They will make up a competition for Lyashka and will be worth it.
      10. EDELVEISS
        EDELVEISS 3 November 2014 09: 34
        0
        P / S to the above: ALL THE EGGS TO BE PAINTED WITH RED PAINT !!!
      11. Naum
        Naum 4 November 2014 09: 39
        0
        When the enemy surrenders, he is spared. That is what normal soldiers differ from fascists.
    2. Denis
      Denis 1 November 2014 10: 31
      +6
      Quote: psychologist
      again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !! and they came to kill! knew where they were going !! I doubt that they would have done the same !!

      Today we will let go, and tomorrow where they were based they will again find the burial places of civilians ... Since these acupants are hitting the villages, we must finish off these dogs.
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      2. gunya
        gunya 1 November 2014 11: 12
        +6
        "Denis (3)
        Today we will release, and tomorrow, where they were based, they will again find the burials of civilians ... Since these acupants are hitting the villages, then we must finish off these dogs. "

        Do not forget about the psychological factor: releasing the enemy, the militias make it clear that they are not fighting "for destruction", but defending their homeland, those who have come out of the encirclement, whether they want it or not, will create an appropriate image of the militia with their stories. In addition, it is a civil war, which means that an appropriate opinion will be created among the opposing side and the population, contrary to the official one.
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 1 November 2014 10: 39
      +7
      Or let them surrender, or all must be destroyed, no mercy for the Nazis.
      1. Denis
        Denis 1 November 2014 10: 43
        +1
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Or let them surrender, or all must be destroyed, no mercy for the Nazis.

        Well surrender and What, feed them drink, treat? They still kill peaceful people, if they are released they will return, be sure.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 1 November 2014 11: 16
          +4
          Quote: Denis
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Or let them surrender, or all must be destroyed, no mercy for the Nazis.

          Well surrender and What, feed them drink, treat? ...

          They will work "at the construction sites of the national economy."
          Many of them went to earn money from Beni, now let them restore what they destroyed, but only for soldering and overnight under guard can forgiveness be earned.
          1. pest
            pest 1 November 2014 17: 57
            +1
            PENZYAK, and you remember about very good institutions called LTP, just in this topic. Here is a treatment for you, here is a job. And in such institutions, security has always been implied. Those being cured have always been employed in the industry, where healthy citizens did not go to work voluntarily. So it is necessary to revive the practice of these institutions in Novorossia, and there will be many who want to be treated there from among the ukrovoyak.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 1 November 2014 13: 52
          +1
          Quote: Denis
          Well surrender and What, feed them drink, treat? They still kill peaceful people, if they are released they will return, be sure.


          We must act strictly according to international laws, otherwise we will not be any different from the Nazis and UPA militants. stop
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    5. avt
      avt 1 November 2014 10: 39
      +29
      Quote: psychologist
      again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !!

      If you are talking about the 32nd block, then the propaganda effect there turned out to be excellent! Moreover, everything was done by ukrosmi by interviewing their fighters who left the bloc, such actions are NECESSARY, just listen to how they compare their command with the separatists - from their lips it costs a lot, much more than a hundredfold mention of ykrop, of course with war criminals talking If the civilians of the surrounding villages were not shot at, why not let them go under a camera with appropriate informational support. You must definitely engage in such propaganda! Understand that the war is going on for the minds of the citizens of ALL UKRAINE. the following should be released without weapons and really punished for crimes against civilians, here I agree with you.
    6. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 1 November 2014 10: 56
      +1
      I don’t know. Yesterday I watched a report from ukrov. They say that with 32 they left with banners and all weapons, even grabbing trophies.
      1. Panikovsky
        Panikovsky 1 November 2014 11: 04
        +6
        Quote: KUOLEMA
        I don’t know. Yesterday I watched a report from ukrov. They say that with 32 they left with banners and all weapons, even grabbing trophies.

        under the trophies you need to understand the grub and vodka from the ragged roadside shop.
        1. jjj
          jjj 1 November 2014 11: 34
          +3
          Quote: Panikovsky
          under the trophies you need to understand the grub and vodka from the ragged roadside shop.

          No, the militia brought them food and water. It's true. There is a clean field
      2. avt
        avt 1 November 2014 11: 08
        +9
        Quote: KUOLEMA
        I don’t know. Yesterday I watched a report from ukrov. They say that with 32 they left with banners and all weapons, even grabbing trophies.

        One - yes, he was crucified so that it was funny to him himself, so as not to get into the tribunal. But he is the only one for all the posted reports, and of the UKRAINIAN correspondents! I repeat - from such a propaganda effect sometimes there is more benefit than from a couple of armored personnel carriers and hundreds of machine guns - it will help to squeeze 10 armored personnel carriers in another place, it is necessary, very necessary to practice such things. So this action from 32m should be credited to the militia in terms of propaganda and flatten ykrov further giving them, so as not to run into a corner, the alternative is to die, or to go home alive. Here, already in Spring, an interview on the next block - so there it was very interesting that one soldier slipped through it - we will stand there until winter, and there - home. ” laughing , especially against the background of the militia.
    7. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 11: 06
      +2
      Quote: psychologist
      again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !! and they came to kill! knew where they were going !! I doubt that they would have done the same !!

      But what doubt can there be? Ukro-fascists have never suffered humanism anywhere.
    8. Siberian German
      Siberian German 1 November 2014 11: 37
      +1
      but we can’t do it like we need according to the Bible - first they will give us one, then the second one, then maybe we will stir - if only ours will not be killed by this time
    9. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 1 November 2014 12: 33
      0
      Quote: psychologist
      again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !! and they came to kill! knew where they were going !! I doubt that they would have done the same !!


      They must be finished locally ...
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    11. Stalker
      Stalker 1 November 2014 13: 04
      +31
      again, out of kindness of soul they will let everyone go !! and they came to kill! knew where they were going !! I doubt that they would have done the same !!

      I looked at the photo .... WEST to the murderers of children to stand under the Margelovsky flag !!!!!
      1. lentai2264
        lentai2264 1 November 2014 14: 23
        +2
        totally and completely agree !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      2. Starik72
        Starik72 2 November 2014 14: 12
        0
        Stalker! I agree with you all 100!
    12. fridge
      fridge 1 November 2014 13: 44
      +3
      Izzy, what is going on in your Ukraine?
      Moysha is still a madhouse. The Russians surrounded the military unit of the Ukrainians and demand surrender, while the Ukrainians shout the Russians do not give up
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    14. Horst78
      Horst78 1 November 2014 14: 19
      +2
      Quote: psychologist
      I doubt they would do the same

      This is the difference between the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the army of New Russia
    15. Belarus
      Belarus 1 November 2014 18: 17
      +3
      Not only should these warriors surrender their weapons, it’s necessary that these bastards also take off the vest.Such creatures that fire at civilians do not have the right to wear a vest. Plus everything Margelov was Russian.
    16. gunter_laux
      gunter_laux 1 November 2014 19: 08
      +2
      You're right! And what is the point of feeding and drinking these creatures in order to meet in the same place in a week? Maybe it treats them like they are to militias?
    17. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 2 November 2014 14: 09
      0
      These creatures kill your wives and children, and you tell them, go guys with God to yours. You should only send them to yours from where they don’t come back, as Kadyrov said.
    18. EDELVEISS
      EDELVEISS 3 November 2014 09: 32
      0
      It is necessary to let go with a reservation (weapons and equipment, of course, leave it): NEVER DRESS A CABLE AND TAKE IT (enter it in a military ID with a black marker), REMOVE ANY EMBLEM AND REMOVE THE AIRBORN BANNERS !!!
    19. Vladimir K.
      Vladimir K. 3 November 2014 10: 41
      +1
      This time at least without weapons. And one more thing: Novorossia has no goal of destroying all Ukrainian people - it will be preferable that the most sane of Ukrainian people, having seen what is really happening in New Russia, and not junta from the blue screens of the media, simply deserting - the rest will have to be cleaned up.
  2. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 1 November 2014 10: 27
    +4
    For them, as with the 32nd freebie, alas, there will be no.
    1. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 1 November 2014 17: 35
      +1
      Well, they won’t come out - that’s not fate. They will die for nothing, for their fascist oligarchic regime.
  3. Abbra
    Abbra 1 November 2014 10: 27
    +15
    Oh, and the night will be today, and tomorrow will be. Fortitude and courage to you, fighters of New Russia! This is for the Natsiks not June 22, 1941 will be ...
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 1 November 2014 11: 31
      +3
      Here, here, NIGHT STAY and DAY KEEP ON !!!! HELLO TO BOYS AND GOOD LUCK !!!
  4. captain
    captain 1 November 2014 10: 30
    +16
    They do the right thing, that they let go, there will be contingency agitators against Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk. All the same, they will tell everyone they know how they survived in the war and how Kiev fed and watered, dressed and treated them.
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 1 November 2014 10: 40
      +8
      I think the same thing correctly. Why breed hatred. The benefits of kindness are not so obvious and more time-delayed. And destroying everyone in a row, it’s all impossible to destroy everyone. On their part, there will still be someone who will kill. Here you need a vigorous bomb. But this is not our method.
      1. quote
        quote 1 November 2014 10: 58
        +1
        And after six months of the war, they did not know what they would do in the ATO? Or why were they going to war?! Yes, it’s a pity for conscripts.
        Why breed hatred.But war because of what? Because of love for one's neighbor?
  5. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 1 November 2014 10: 32
    +5
    They are also with our Flag of the Airborne Forces. Specific suckers. Good they can not be taught already. Only destroy.
    1. Maxchell
      Maxchell 2 November 2014 15: 42
      0
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Uq8Pl3rnDg
  6. INF
    INF 1 November 2014 10: 36
    +6
    The corridor is a couple of meters deep .....
  7. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 1 November 2014 10: 36
    +4
    accepted the conditions of the army of New Russia and left the encirclement, leaving in place many weapons and ammunition

    But aren’t mistakes made here when the enemies are set free, weapons can be obtained and killed in a new way, especially elite units, paratroopers, are the complete destruction better, the Ukrainians do not understand their good attitude and remain enemies, continuing to fight.
  8. deadj
    deadj 1 November 2014 10: 37
    +5
    they need to be "extinguished" only because they disgraced the flag of the Airborne Forces. don't call these SS paratroopers.
  9. echomenkov
    echomenkov 1 November 2014 10: 41
    +7
    KEEP YOUR GUYS! PRAY FOR YOU! GLORY TO NEW RUSSIA!
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 1 November 2014 23: 35
      +1
      If prayers helped, the world would have long been clean, bright and holy, and there would be no evil in it.
  10. Navy7981
    Navy7981 1 November 2014 10: 45
    +2
    I just do not understand why they continue to be called paratroopers? Airborne forces? They are just punitive. The enemy can and should be hated, but also respected, in my opinion this is correct, otherwise every chance of losing! But if your enemy is those who arrange or are trying to arrange Babi Yar, then it must be destroyed.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 11: 52
      +9
      Quote: Navy7981
      I just do not understand why they continue to be called paratroopers? Airborne? ...

      General Shamanov ordered to call them aerial burial grounds, they are not worthy to be called paratroopers.
  11. anatolis14
    anatolis14 1 November 2014 10: 47
    +1
    In vain they will let go. Experience shows what needs to be eliminated.
  12. Kep 123
    Kep 123 1 November 2014 10: 50
    +4
    It seems to me that you don’t need to let them go, a lot of work. what was destroyed before. They don’t have any faith, they will let them go, but they will take up arms again.
  13. Quantum
    Quantum 1 November 2014 10: 50
    +4
    What paratroopers are they? Attributes licked from the Russian airborne forces, so ordinary
    ukrofashisty.Pryzhat them if they will be pulled with the surrender.
    a dozen grave diggers, let them load their corpses and get into Dill!
  14. Drunya
    Drunya 1 November 2014 10: 52
    +8
    Ten thousand Ukrainian security officials have already been treated by a psychiatrist
    ===========
    The information that the Ukrainian military, who were involved in the so-called anti-terrorist operation zone, received more than serious psychological injuries that pose a danger to their mental health and pose a threat to citizens around them in a peaceful life, is receiving more and more confirmation.

    Nearly 10 thousand Ukrainian troops who participated in the battles in the Donbass and returned from there received specialized psychiatric care. This was neat and streamlined, but nevertheless, Olga Bogomolets, adviser to the president of Ukraine, said on the air of one of the Ukrainian TV channels.

    “To date, 10 thousand fighters who have returned from the anti-terrorist operation zone have already received psychiatric and psychosomatic care. Almost 10 thousand. This is not about injury, but about psychological combat trauma. These are statistics for all regions of Ukraine, ”said Bogomolets.

    It is known that during the war against the East of the country, the Ukrainian army suffered monstrous losses, and especially monstrous for conflicts of the XXI century. Absolutely incompetent and incompetent command, and as a result of it numerous deaths, boilers and captivity - all this naturally affected not only the fighting spirit of the punishers, but also their mental state. We will remind, earlier the expert of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declared that about 80% of the fighters who passed "anti-terrorist operation" or are now on the front line need serious psychological help.

    According to the experts of the research center for humanitarian problems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 40% of Ukrainian soldiers and militants received irreversible mental disorders. The returning security forces are not able to control themselves in the usual home environment and continue to follow the aggressive behavior model typical of the combat zone in relations with relatives.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 11: 59
      +4
      Quote: Dryuya
      Ten thousand Ukrainian security officials have already been treated by a psychiatrist
      ===========
      ...

      After a massive defeat by the influence of ukro-media, the entire population of Ukraine needs intensive psychiatric care.
    2. Starik72
      Starik72 2 November 2014 14: 18
      0
      For what we fought for it and ran into it. Something like this.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2014 10: 54
    +3
    otherwise for constant attacks in the village "they will be punished."

    You can kill civilians, but let the murderers go to their own. Of those who are released - "agitators" for the end of the war, maybe a few. They do more harm to the civilian population. And the militia has to suffer losses.
  16. Abbra
    Abbra 1 November 2014 10: 56
    +16
    This is a fresh shot of the Los Angeles Times correspondent. Natsik put the remains of his comrades in boxes of ammunition.
    1. avt
      avt 1 November 2014 11: 11
      +5
      Quote: Abbra
      This is a fresh shot of the Los Angeles Times correspondent. Natsik put the remains of his comrades in boxes of ammunition.

      good It’s also good - it’s terribly catching up, that would be a haaaroshy comment on such a photo! It’s not for nothing that it was said that sometimes “evil tongues are worse than pistols”.
      1. WS
        WS 1 November 2014 11: 59
        +7
        Yesterday morning, this same correspondent spoke on the Echo of Moscow radio (in the recording) as he spoke without accent, spoke of how the DPR conducts shelling of its groups, how valiant Ukrainian volunteers keep the Donetsk airport, not allowing the salag from the right sector to climb into shelling areas, evacuate wounded and corpses from under fire without allowing the dogs to eat the remains. He also said that there were no heavy weapons on the territory of the Donetsk airport, that they could not shell Donetsk. Of course, I did not expect another, but I was very upset when listening to this program.
        1. Abbra
          Abbra 1 November 2014 12: 13
          +3
          What can I say? There are always two truths in any war. And when one side wins, the truth turns into one.
  17. Andrea
    Andrea 1 November 2014 10: 58
    +6
    The hour "X" is approaching. Poroshenko will try to disrupt the elections. We wish the militias to survive, and, it is better to spread this infection.
  18. gameover_65
    gameover_65 1 November 2014 10: 59
    +3
    what nafik green corridor? either captive or death.
    what's the point of releasing without a weapon? Well, they left, immediately took up a new weapon in their hands, only now they are more or less experienced and fired.
  19. KUOLEMA
    KUOLEMA 1 November 2014 11: 00
    +3
    Quote: Finches
    Comrades, if these are not Natsiks and not Guardsmen, who are really outside the law, but soldiers of the regular army, then we must act within the framework of the rules of the war, with respect to combatants! If there are proven crimes of these military personnel, then they must be tried by a court of the military tribunal! If they refuse to surrender, then, naturally, they need to be destroyed!
    The proposal to withdraw and surrender weapons, this firstly emphasizes the nobility and strength of the militia, and realizing the strength, these soldiers next time, if they arrive by order, then with other thoughts in their heads, will instantly go over to the side of the militia!

    Ek, my friend sausages that nobility in a modern war, well, these same Ukrainians who came out of their encirclement and we captured them, they kick us cool and these are the most noble paratroopers from the Armed Forces and the guard will cut leather belts as well)))
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 1 November 2014 11: 01
    +5
    They must be destroyed until the pack of mercy is not requested. They will not spare the militias and civilians. There is only one conversation with them, their destruction.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 3 November 2014 19: 19
      0
      Only surrender without any conditions, or destruction. These unarmed vacation games will only provoke these "paratroopers" to fight further. What? - Like a computer toy, - I shot, started up, restarted the level. Maybe 1 out of 10 will think about it, but 9 will definitely continue to fight. But if they were held captive during construction work, then they would all be exposed as “accomplices of the separatists” before the junta, and then one would think about how to exchange them. Otherwise, go out without a weapon! They would have given them a drum. True, it was possible to offer the third option - flight, whoever has time - will be saved if the god deflects the bullet.
  21. sanek0207
    sanek0207 1 November 2014 11: 01
    +5
    Dill must not be released! Only in consumption! Did you know where they were going? Did you know what you were doing? They knew !!! Into their pit!
  22. Rigla
    Rigla 1 November 2014 11: 01
    +3
    Beauty! Kill the peaceful people and the militias, and just about something goes wrong, they will release !!! Why not fight then?
  23. cidr777
    cidr777 1 November 2014 11: 02
    +3
    In their pit is not landing, they shoot at civilians. Shame and death !!!
  24. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 November 2014 11: 02
    +4
    Let them go. From the block of posts it is necessary to squeeze them quietly, "politely".
    IMHO, the attack on New Russia will be tonight, or not at all. This refers to a massive offensive.
    Reason - it is clear what. Break the election. I do not really believe that dill has anything from such an attack.
  25. sv68
    sv68 1 November 2014 11: 14
    +2
    as they say, it’s more visible on the spot, but it’s time to stop this unnecessary enemy patience — if they put forward an ultimatum and the enemy didn’t fulfill it, then they destroy him — such is the harsh truth of war.
  26. suworowiwan
    suworowiwan 1 November 2014 11: 22
    +4
    Judging by the photos, the first and second ukrosiloviks look like that for 35 years. And their brains are not so slagged with Bandera propaganda, as, for example, the same 20-year-old youths who still do not fully understand that life is given once. It is in the "toys" there are many of them, but here there is always one. So if they don't agree right away, then the time is long over to "lisp" with such people. There is simply no other. Although the militias are there, on the spot, they know better which option to choose. But it is necessary to "break" all this "guard" and the rest of Pan Poroshenko's warriors as much as possible. Another will be a case in point!
  27. zinander
    zinander 1 November 2014 11: 24
    +4
    Pinocchio would have them, for civilians.
    1. EDELVEISS
      EDELVEISS 1 November 2014 12: 08
      +4
      Pinocchio ??? Yes!!!!!! good
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 2 November 2014 15: 51
        0
        better than Solntsepekom, it’s very cool to get fried sausage!
        1. Reason
          Reason 4 November 2014 09: 02
          0
          And the Tornado? The APU is in service. The "militias" may be upset.
  28. kind
    kind 1 November 2014 11: 27
    +1
    You need to let go, but before that you can take a promise from them on camera that they will no longer go to war. If all the same they go, then after the second detention they should act with them according to the laws of the war as war criminals.
    1. Krsk
      Krsk 1 November 2014 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: Good
      with this on camera to take a promise from them,


      Are you seriously?
  29. mira. 36
    mira. 36 1 November 2014 11: 34
    +4
    The humane attitude towards the captured dill in this war by the militias is respectable. It’s another matter that the junta will not appreciate it, they don’t give a damn about their army - consumables and no more. We don’t need to release weapons, it’s not humanism anymore, tomorrow these weapons will shoot at the liberators. Listen to the comments of former prisoners of war, everyone is at war with Russia, the militia for them bandits and not any remorse. Captives are perceived as a misunderstanding, they will lick their wounds and, with a clear conscience, will go on killing further. They destroyed a lot of things, let them work out for a cup of baland, maybe then it comes to what they are doing.
  30. Bassoon
    Bassoon 1 November 2014 11: 44
    +3
    Nope in the dill paratroopers. Paratroopers do not fight with the people.
    1. Reason
      Reason 4 November 2014 09: 02
      0
      So they do not fight with the people.
      The "militia" is the local criminals to whom Akhmetov gave weapons.
  31. Altona
    Altona 1 November 2014 11: 45
    +3
    This is not paratroopers, but airborne troops ...
  32. propolsky
    propolsky 1 November 2014 11: 52
    +2
    Why would I release them if they are rude to the local residents from mortars? All right, we would have sat quietly, otherwise there is enough courage to shoot. Captured only and to restore the destroyed. All "volunteers" should work in the rear on the opposite side of the front, and preferably only for soldering!
  33. MAXUZZZ
    MAXUZZZ 1 November 2014 11: 53
    +2
    Apparently they will sit until the last in anticipation of the junta
  34. PWG
    PWG 1 November 2014 12: 08
    +2
    Why are they being released? These creatures all the same then come with weapons again! And they are not needed as prisoners: to feed them even when the inhabitants themselves are holding on to humanitarian aid. So you need to hammer all the surrounded fascists to the last reptile!
  35. pvv113
    pvv113 1 November 2014 12: 21
    +5
    On the eve of the Ukrosiloviks opened mortar shelling, which killed three civilians.

    For such "feats" you cannot speak the language of diplomacy with dill. Only lead can cure them of Nazi habits.
  36. provincial
    provincial 1 November 2014 12: 27
    +2
    What the fuck assault, they are punishers and the point.
  37. Mercenary
    Mercenary 1 November 2014 12: 29
    +8
    90 people argue with one Jew who does not give a damn about Novorosia and Russia with Crimea. But they did not notice the main thing. Tomorrow in Novorossia, elections and Ukrainians will do everything to disrupt them. Hold on, guys, and you need to strangle the dill landings just in case. Then show mercy. angry
  38. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 1 November 2014 12: 32
    +3
    To the militias. Guys, these ukro-marines have come to kill you! And they kill! Maybe it's time to stop persuading them? They came to you "with a sword," so let them "perish by the sword." Serves it right! Don't poke your nose into someone else's garden!
  39. Alexander NK
    Alexander NK 1 November 2014 12: 40
    +2
    No need to spare them! What the hell ultimatum! Destroy everyone!
  40. Altona
    Altona 1 November 2014 12: 43
    +4
    APU in battles for the airport ... the poor choir, the crowd of thieves ...
  41. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 1 November 2014 13: 00
    +2
    Quote: Koshak
    New Russia only as an independent state. The help, naturally, will not be frail, but to fasten to the Russian budget what dill has done there is unacceptable.

    Budget word foreign. And ... with him.
    In PEOPLE in distress or danger, you can’t leave it.
    Only joining Russia will make life in the Novorossiysk Federal District safe.
    And the whole world is collecting money.
    Or are we like the gay people, not people, but calculators?
  42. Karabas
    Karabas 1 November 2014 13: 06
    +4
    Brothers, what kind of landing? This is a direct disgrace to our legendary troops! You look at the picture, I didn’t see such things even in our dear infantry, creatures, nothing more to say.
  43. pahom54
    pahom54 1 November 2014 13: 25
    +2
    As far as I understand, the way out was offered to them not so much out of mercy, but out of unwillingness to endanger the lives of civilians.

    Shoot, kill? Do not want to go out? Here the reason is not a stupid ideology, but the fact that they have a snout in the fluff, and their hands are in blood ...
    So give an answer: do not want to leave - stay !!! But only forever ...
  44. Partisan Kramaha
    Partisan Kramaha 1 November 2014 14: 26
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: mamont5
    In Ukraine, Ukrainians wrote down everyone who agreed and who did not.

    Well then do not tell tales.
    These are the results of the census (that is, as the person indicated himself in the questionnaire, I hope you agree with me that the census tellers did not break their hands)
    In the Ukrainian passport, nationality is not indicated.

    And sho? I had a lot in my class with Russian surnames, but the certificate was Ukrainian.
  45. combat36
    combat36 1 November 2014 14: 33
    +2
    I don’t want to be like “couch generals”, but I think that it will be enough to be alarmed with them once during the Armistice period there were shots from their checkpoint, then only one thing comes to mind To level the ground ... soldier
  46. cergey51046
    cergey51046 1 November 2014 14: 41
    +2
    Destroy the Nazis with preemptive strikes, preferably by the Sunshine.
  47. Prager
    Prager 1 November 2014 14: 57
    +2
    Why are they ticking with them? destroy everyone to the last! am
  48. Straight
    Straight 1 November 2014 15: 47
    +3
    Have you ever thought that the oligarchs and nouveau racers of all stripes are more expensive for us, but different crooks? The Russian people must live in one state, period!
  49. Estray_
    Estray_ 1 November 2014 16: 04
    0
    A detachment of Chechens, a detachment of Cossacks, a detachment of Russian military "vacationers", a detachment of Luhansk mercenaries. The number of enemy troops is up to 1 thousand fighters, about 20 tanks, 50 units of light armored vehicles, 2 BM-21 Grad batteries, 1 battery of D-30 howitzers, 2-3 mortar batteries “Vasilek”. A large number of anti-tank systems, sapper units are equipped with anti-personnel and anti-tank mines. Directorate - the Russian command, military operations are accompanied by radio intelligence and electronic warfare units.
    http://newsoboz.org/proisshestviya/31-y-blokpost-popal-v-kleshchi-situatsiya-kri

    ticheskaya-01112014120706 Where without Chechens)))
  50. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 1 November 2014 16: 31
    +4
    Click to kill, you have to answer