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500 recruits from Chechnya join the ranks of the Russian army

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The current appeal of recruits in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other power structures is characterized by the fact that it has a “Chechen segment”. Young people from the Chechen Republic are also called up - 500 people, after a long break.

500 recruits from Chechnya join the ranks of the Russian army


Chechen conscripts who find themselves in the Russian army as part of the autumn draft will serve in two federal districts: the North Caucasus and the South. About this with reference to State Duma Deputy Shamsail Saraliyev reported "News".

Saraliyev:
The guys who were called this fall will serve only in the south of Russia - in the Southern and North Caucasus federal districts - this is the decision of the Russian Ministry of Defense at this stage.


At the same time, Saraliev stated that in subsequent appeals, if Chechen recruits recommend themselves well, they will be able to serve in other federal districts of Russia.

Recall that the recruiting campaign in Chechnya was canceled in the 90-s in connection with the military actions in the territory of the republic. The resumption of conscription from the Chechen Republic took place after a personal meeting of the head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, with Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.
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  1. Abbra
    Abbra 1 November 2014 09: 48
    -1
    Well, good luck! And Ramzan will take care of them, so that everything without ponte would be superfluous.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 November 2014 09: 50
      +42
      It was better to scatter them in parts, throughout the country, one or two people.
      1. Abbra
        Abbra 1 November 2014 09: 51
        +3
        This is in the next appeal.
        1. Major_Vortex
          Major_Vortex 1 November 2014 09: 58
          +6
          Just so that it would not happen that one Chechen will serve surrounded by non-Chechens and return from the army with memories that he was oppressed there because of his origin. And then the second, third ...

          In the last years of the Union, many in the army of the diaspora vied among themselves for "supremacy". There is nothing good in this, and everyone saw the consequences after the collapse of the union.
          1. Altona
            Altona 1 November 2014 11: 30
            +7
            Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
            In the last years of the Union, many in the army of the diaspora vied among themselves for "supremacy". There is nothing good in this, and everyone saw the consequences after the collapse of the union.

            ---------------------
            In the Soviet Union, I was serving at that time, they played at the harmful "friendship of peoples", when in fact it was not there ... Especially officers and political officers, according to instructions from the center and the general line of the party ... The main criterion should be tough sergeant education and suppression of any "hey, who are you in the nation?" Okay, we had a normal sergeant, he cut all this "ethnicity" at the root with tough methods ... It was not he who satisfied his imperious ambitions, he brought up a well-coordinated team so that no one would ever let anyone down ...
            1. Weniamin
              Weniamin 1 November 2014 13: 39
              +4
              I served in the late 80s. We had three or four Chechens in our battalion. Normal boys! But there were definitely problems with the Ishers.
      2. coffee
        coffee 1 November 2014 09: 55
        0
        For what reason, now exactly what happened, maybe I do not know.
      3. EDELVEISS
        EDELVEISS 1 November 2014 12: 03
        0
        They will be torn apart like an Acetic warmer.
      4. Cenij150814
        Cenij150814 1 November 2014 13: 48
        +4
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        It was better to scatter them in parts, throughout the country, one or two people.

        When were you in the army (if you were) ?, the thing is that in it (the army) the rift runs between Muslims (+ Armenians, etc.) and Orthodox (Russians), and what we have is two Chechens + two Dagestanis + two Kabardians + two Bashkirs + two Tatars + ours from the criminal world, more often as sixes, etc., etc., = a gang! Purely Muslim "units" could serve as a way out, it would be interesting to watch this laughing By the way, if I am not mistaken, such "practice" was used in tsarist Russia!
        1. Darek
          Darek 1 November 2014 17: 48
          +4
          Quote: Cenij150814
          When were you in the army (if you were) ?, the thing is that in it (the army) a rift runs between Muslims (+ Armenians, etc.) and Orthodox (Russians), and what we have is two Chechens + two Dagestanis + two Kabardians + two Bashkirs + two Tatars + ours from the criminal world, more often as sixes, etc., etc., = a gang! Purely Muslim "units" could serve as some way out, it would be interesting to observe this. By the way, if I am not mistaken, such "practice" was used in tsarist Russia!

          Quote: Cenij150814
          When were you in the army (if you were) ?, the thing is that in it (the army) a rift runs between Muslims (+ Armenians, etc.) and Orthodox (Russians), and what we have is two Chechens + two Dagestanis + two Kabardians + two Bashkirs + two Tatars + ours from the criminal world, more often as sixes, etc., etc., = a gang! Purely Muslim "units" could serve as some way out, it would be interesting to observe this. By the way, if I am not mistaken, such "practice" was used in tsarist Russia!

          You are an absolute plus!
          It is unclear only who is minus7 Not serving? Or dagi?
          1. Cenij150814
            Cenij150814 1 November 2014 18: 01
            0
            Quote: Darek
            Or dagi?

            Not necessarily they, maybe one of the following two Chechens + two Dagestanis + two Kabardians + two Bashkirs + two Tatars + ours from the criminal world I am more inclined to the Tatars!
            1. prishelec
              prishelec 1 November 2014 18: 14
              +3
              / Cenij150814 /

              You have something against the Tatars, tell me what exactly, interesting))? .. such people as you zadolbali vapsche!
              1. Cenij150814
                Cenij150814 1 November 2014 18: 22
                -4
                You have something against the Tatars

                I feel like "Vanga" lol
                Quote: prishelec
                You have something against the Tatars, tell me what exactly, interesting))?

                Nothing special, you just get it Probability theory, Tatars on this resource a dime a dozen in addition they are more often Muslims and I mentioned both one and the other, that's all!
        2. dim242
          dim242 2 November 2014 09: 40
          0
          the wild division was called
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 1 November 2014 09: 53
      +1
      Let us see how army discipline will affect the psyche of free mountain eagles.
      1. Darek
        Darek 1 November 2014 18: 00
        +4
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Let us see how army discipline will affect the psyche of free mountain eagles.

        And who will look? Are you personally I doubt something very much.
        And discipline does not work.
        The army, however, like war, is, above all, work. Often difficult and ungrateful. Where did you see a working Chechen? No, I don’t mean any Chechen hard worker of the Soviet period, but a modern young one?
        Yes, not in the heat! Unfortunately, their mentality, with rare exceptions, is Abrek. That is, the exclusion of physical labor, to obtain food.
        Want to re-educate them? God help you!
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 1 November 2014 10: 04
      +3
      Good commanders and educators! Good luck!
    6. Darek
      Darek 1 November 2014 17: 46
      +3
      Quote: Abbra
      Well, good luck! And Ramzan will take care of them, so that everything without ponte would be superfluous.

      Is everything all right with the brains? Did you serve with the Nokhchi in the army?
  2. coffee
    coffee 1 November 2014 09: 48
    0
    God grant that everything works out, a balanced decision.
  3. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 1 November 2014 09: 51
    0
    let's see what happens
    1. FANTOM-72
      FANTOM-72 1 November 2014 10: 14
      +3
      Quote: Ragnarek
      let's see what happens

      There was already "His Imperial Majesty's Own Convoy" and nothing, how it turned out. The main thing is correct motivation.
  4. 020205
    020205 1 November 2014 09: 53
    +14
    It began, I served with both Ingush and Dagestanis, more than 3 people in the unit are no longer funny, we had a whole company of 150 people in our division, company commander colonel, platoon commanders majors! The case was the commander of the division major general on morning exercises in front of them he was pushing up trying to make them do it by personal example, it was generally funny
    1. Altona
      Altona 1 November 2014 13: 48
      +5
      Quote: 020205
      It began, I served with both Ingush and Dagestanis, more than 3 people in the unit are no longer funny, we had a whole company of 150 people in our division, company commander colonel, platoon commanders majors! The case was the commander of the division major general on morning exercises in front of them he was pushing up trying to make them do it by personal example, it was generally funny

      ----------------------------
      I served in the training regiment of military unit 89598, in the third company, the second company was called the "wild division", representatives of the peoples of the Caucasus and Central Asia served there ... And naturally, these 200 people decided to go in lawlessness and crush the rest, extort money, to take away what personal belongings, beat individual boys ... beat in general, even one of our Moscow Jews.
      The morning in the second company (like the end of July 1988) began enchantingly - with the shout of "company, rise!" our sergeant Yevgeny Kuznetsov and a couple of sergeants of our company entered the location of the second company, I think Klepcha and Simko ... the path leading to the sports ground ... But they did not have a chance to run out to the sports ground ... Their exercises were completely on this asphalt ... All two hours ... led to numerous repetitions ... In the evening, the second company walked in formation before the evening verification for an hour ... In the morning, exercises on the asphalt were repeated in the same volume, as well as evening walking ... On Friday evening, at the evening verification, it was announced that the punitive measures will be regular as long as there are regular violations of discipline ... In general, the lawlessness has come to naught ...
      1. 020205
        020205 1 November 2014 16: 13
        +2
        It’s not like the sergeants (they quickly removed the strings from them) Here their general isn’t just going to go, he couldn’t get them out laughing It was in 2007 in military unit 18939 in which I served from 2006 to 2008. And there was another case, in 1 battalion of our regiment (50 percent consisting of representatives of the Caucasus) there was such a commander with the rank of lieutenant colonel by the name of Retunsky, and so from the lieutenant colonel, there were only stars in it, and the voice was really commander’s. So this comrade beat off his battalion and bed (of course, Caucasians) and washed the floors in the dining room dress.
  5. Hell's Angel
    Hell's Angel 1 November 2014 10: 02
    +18
    I already remember an attempt, of course more PR. But, this does not lead to anything good. Everyone has already heard about conscripts from Dagestan. There is one plus, though. For those guys who believe in the "friendship of peoples" "we are one people" and so on. all at once will pass. Chat with those who served with these mountain eagles, they know exactly who the real enemy is. Where is there ne. ndosam and ho.lam.
    1. Aazmandus
      Aazmandus 1 November 2014 13: 55
      +10
      Man, two hands for! 4 years ago he served in Leninsky, he saw the highlanders. They also talked about neighboring Babstovo, though it was there about Tuvans ... They probably spoken about it? Now, as I see / hear about the friendship of peoples, it is already bashing. Cardinal vaccination.
      Already registered, although I’ve been reading a couple of years already.

      Sorry, I sat down, the training was in Babstovo, and then they threw it to Leninsky.
  6. Prager
    Prager 1 November 2014 10: 04
    +9
    oh, and their future commanders are filled with grief with these mountain eagles!
  7. MAXUZZZ
    MAXUZZZ 1 November 2014 10: 11
    +6
    Well, the first call may have been personally instructed by Kadyrov and will not be very greyhound, but what will be unknown next
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 1 November 2014 10: 15
      -1
      In general, I am inclined to believe that "greyhound" is not a national feature. I have seen various greyhounds in the army, including Russians. In the end, we are not recruiting Chechens into the ranks of the army.
  8. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 1 November 2014 10: 12
    +1
    So let them sit there in the North Caucasus
  9. 020205
    020205 1 November 2014 10: 13
    +11
    Quote: Hell Angel
    Talk to those who served with these mountain eagles, they know exactly who the real enemy is. Where there ne. ndosam and ho.lam.

    Here, 150 people were brought to us in part of them for the draft, on the first night they were quite obedient soldiers, until the morning until they met their fellow countrymen in the dining room, and then, as if, somehow, the toggle switch flashed through the head and there was no fighter! fraternity was Dagestanis, Ossetians, Ingush, Kabardins, etc. by faith they didn’t have any differences. We are all from the Caucasus, we are Zemiks. They did this not because of any hatred of the Russians, but for their convenience, it’s easier to resist commanders and generally live more convenient. They said so, you Russian-deer ! Once you allow yourself to wash the floors, go to dresses, etc.
    1. SkiF_RnD
      SkiF_RnD 1 November 2014 18: 40
      +3
      “They said so, you are Russian-deer! Once you allow yourself to be forced to wash the floors, wear clothes, etc.” - that's why they have nothing to do in the modern army of a civilized country. For such people they need their own "foreign battalion", with corporal punishment and execution for non-observance of the order. The Russians won back their own, civilized for a long time, and the Russian army is provided for more or less civilized people. These only hang as "dead souls", do not do anything, only pinch those who are weaker. Here, I remember, the regimental commander came to the rampage, tried to force the Ingush to do the cleaning together with the whole unit. "I don’t buy a rag, my brother doesn’t allow mine ..." It would be a scarecrow in the disbat to hell with it, but no, they close their eyes, they cherish their prestige ... This is the whole trouble, that such failure is usually not pursued no orders, just all the work is done by others.
  10. Victor1
    Victor1 1 November 2014 10: 25
    +7
    they need to be scattered for 2-3 people to the maximum part, otherwise they will start to greyhound.
    1. Moore
      Moore 1 November 2014 10: 43
      +5
      Well, it has long been known that one Vainakh in a company is an exemplary soldier, two are a risk group, three are an uncontrollable gang ..
  11. diz1975
    diz1975 1 November 2014 10: 27
    +1
    With these mountaineers, one must be careful. Do not rule them out of his mentality. And prevent negative situations. We live with them and we need to direct this situation in a positive direction. So that they return home with a positive and respectful assessment of the Russian Army and Russian soldiers.
    EAST IS A DELICATE MATTER.
    1. Denis 60 rus
      Denis 60 rus 1 November 2014 12: 12
      +5
      just don’t know which east is a delicate matter, but if everyone and everyone (the same Czechs) indulge, they will look at us with contempt and greyhounds, the licentiousness of the diasporas will only multiply, which is the main thing and it’s observed. respected the most.
  12. parafoiler
    parafoiler 1 November 2014 10: 27
    +2
    Nothing like this. I cannot say anything bad about any Chechen soldier with whom I had to serve together. So are the officers. People are words and honor.
  13. diz1975
    diz1975 1 November 2014 10: 33
    +5
    And these abominations cannot be allowed.
    1. alekc73
      alekc73 1 November 2014 17: 44
      +5
      The children of the mountains respect only strength. They will feel the weakness become uncontrollable. The commanders will slurp to the fullest.
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  15. AMEXEMA
    AMEXEMA 1 November 2014 10: 51
    +1
    Quote: parafoiler
    Nothing like this. I cannot say anything bad about any Chechen soldier with whom I had to serve together. So are the officers. People are words and honor.

    War is bringing them back to normal. There they become full members of society, arrogance disappears and show-offs show respect for a country whose IVAN can just like that without an order and without money-pull his two soldiers out of cross-fire (wounded and both). Then in civilian life, this father Kamandir and his two lupus will never hit a Russian girl or poke a guy in the gateway.
    P.S. Chechens are very mountainous (before narcissism) and isolated people, but they are brave and keep their word (at all costs) - they are promising as a piece of titanium ore only if forged from them in the crucible of war and cut off all that is superfluous ....
  16. sv68
    sv68 1 November 2014 10: 54
    +3
    firstly, I served in the glorious Soviet era and I know well that when faced with a well-coordinated team, even a dozen or more Caucasians realize that they will be crushed at least. secondly, they primarily appreciate those who are both physically and mentally strong and will not be offended at first we didn’t have a whole stool in the cockpit - they fought off everything that Caucasians got into the hand. and they realized it’s better not to touch it. Moreover, after the disassembly, a lot of fighters with bruises and bumps, on both sides, but no one I didn’t make them extreme, they were silent in a rag. They love sports — even in the rain or heavy snow they were constantly on the sports ground and we who were engaged in sports were very respected at the right time. So if we wanted and had the proper skill and company of the Caucasians, we had everything Ingush Ossetians Dagestanis Chichen and other nations can be put in place. Everything depends on the desire of the officers and their ability to turn the herd into military subdivision.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 1 November 2014 11: 04
      +1
      From them it is possible to form elite mountain-rifle units, if any ...
      1. Steel loli
        Steel loli 1 November 2014 11: 26
        +5
        Of savages to make the elite?
        Your planning is really bad.
        1. diz1975
          diz1975 1 November 2014 11: 47
          -5
          They fight well, especially in the mountains, in their own element.
          1. Abbra
            Abbra 1 November 2014 12: 08
            +3
            And there are many mountains ahead. At least the Carpathians :)))
          2. Hell's Angel
            Hell's Angel 1 November 2014 18: 54
            +2
            Come on! Who then drove these "good warriors" across the mountains? Do not know? So I will tell you, conscripts who saw the mountains for the first time in the war. Just don’t talk about "Alpha" and "Pennant" the main load was just on the guys from the SPN GRU and VV.
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        3. askort154
          askort154 1 November 2014 12: 27
          0
          Steel Loli .... From the savages to make the elite?
          Your planning is really bad.

          I still don’t understand by what criteria the flag is attached to the account?
          On my requests, the moderator is silent!
          1. Abbra
            Abbra 1 November 2014 12: 43
            0
            Go to your personal account, then to your profile. Go to Editing. There is a residence and other gadgets. Next - to taste and desire. Good luck
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  17. dosyl
    dosyl 1 November 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Quote: parafoiler
    Nothing like this. I cannot say anything bad about any Chechen soldier with whom I had to serve together. So are the officers. People are words and honor.

    I will not argue about "word and honor", it is in their blood. True, in some cases it served as a catalyst for the worse. I do not know when you served, because the time difference matters. I have lived and seen, here is a good example from life.! 1985, tank training in Kazakhstan, the village of Otar, those who served know. I am platoon commander. On the PCB in the tank park I observe a picture: with dusty tears in the eyes of a conscript soldier from the then Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, sweeping a concrete road, next to three sergeant, one of them is "my" castle, the soldier, by the way, is also "mine". The picture is sad. They do not have to do "female" work. But the trick is that in a broom instead of a handle he wanted to work with a crowbar. and honor. The problem with this was to say the least big. Even in my snotty 21 years for an officer, I understood this. And the outfit for the dining room? and how to tidy up the barracks? but how to explain to other 18-year-olds that the Chechen-Ingush could not take his mother or sister into the army to clean up after him. Now it’s different. Thank you, who understood. Health to everyone.
  18. Abbra
    Abbra 1 November 2014 11: 31
    +3
    That's right. If we are proud to be a multinational power, then we cannot cut everyone under one comb. This is even more subtle than the East. However, there is only one oath. Otherwise, this is not the army, but the bazaar station.
  19. arjiev
    arjiev 1 November 2014 11: 32
    +1
    Just let us serve the Army for that and the Army in order to bring everyone to discipline and order if the commander is sensible everything will be in order
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 1 November 2014 13: 29
      +2
      Who is against it?
      1. arjiev
        arjiev 1 November 2014 13: 47
        +2
        Yes there are those who are not friends
    2. Cenij150814
      Cenij150814 1 November 2014 15: 51
      +1
      Quote: arjiev
      if the commander is sensible everything will be alright

      laughing In my memory there was a case, the starley lived in the barracks for almost a week because the "grateful" relatives of the soldier whom he taught discipline were waiting for him at the entrance, in a conversation with the officers it turned out that this was far from an isolated case!
  20. MuadDib
    MuadDib 1 November 2014 12: 46
    +2
    Dear, I read a few comments and, I confess, I am surprised. Some have fear in their sentences! Even sitting thousands of kilometers away from the scene, some are afraid of the terrible Chechens. Are you chasing or what? If you really have a feeling of discomfort when you realize that "chi-chi" will serve in the RF Armed Forces, then leave it to yourself. Don't embarrass the young.
    1. Vlad49
      Vlad49 1 November 2014 12: 53
      -6
      The Chechens who are now being called were children when the Russians destroyed their parents. They are proud people, the threshold of sensitivity is very low.
  21. Vlad49
    Vlad49 1 November 2014 12: 51
    -20
    The son has recently returned from the front. He fought in the National Guard since August 8. The Chechens were not taken prisoner - they were immediately shot. About 200 Chechens were buried in the area of ​​the Donetsk airport. Since Putin said that they are not there, it means no. Since mid-September they have been given a chance. Killed 2 Russian soldiers - free! By the way, a lot of Chechens after that remained to fight against the Russians.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 1 November 2014 13: 04
      +11
      Why 200, not 198 or 203?
      In general, zalepuha must also be able to blind
    2. arjiev
      arjiev 1 November 2014 13: 05
      +5
      What kind of 200 Chechens have you buried there? Do we know who your national ghats are and others are burying peaceful people? If there are 10 thousand Chechens in Ukraine, then your national bastards will immediately be in Poland
    3. Abbra
      Abbra 1 November 2014 13: 31
      +7
      Yes, dad ... So you became the father of the killer.
    4. MuadDib
      MuadDib 1 November 2014 13: 51
      +6
      You tell these tales at home.
    5. Xergey
      Xergey 1 November 2014 23: 16
      0
      Apparently you are a family of freaks who will get what they deserve soon.
  22. 00105042
    00105042 1 November 2014 13: 00
    +1
    It’s completely bad for Sergei Khuzhenekudovich to recruit dugs and Chechens into the army — sheer nonsense, if there are a certain number of them, they begin to dominate the unit, and the question arises, what would be the combat effectiveness of such a unit in combat conditions? Most likely, if they do not shoot each other it’s already run away. It’s already reached a complete insanity — in a compound where there are a lot of dags, they pulled up the mullahs, then the old people from their villages, so that they would carry out educational work, and that’s in the army, not in the kindergarten! strange opinions about the allegedly high moral and combat qualities, that they are people of words and honor. Or, in delirium, that they will look after the cadres and they will be wonderful soldiers, ready to give their lives for Russia. Fuck there, these peoples are traitors by they’re not responsible for life and for words. He served with them in the Soviet Union during the construction battalion, I know what I’m talking about. By the way, they didn’t succeed in choking others — the injuries were too high at construction sites, and they were too intolerant in the commandant’s troops. they returned with glassy eyes and toothless. My opinion is to call them up predictably to decompose military units. And no Kadyrov-Madyrov will help here.
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 1 November 2014 13: 34
      0
      Check your head ... I will not allow the VO pages to speak badly of the Minister of Defense of Russia.
      1. 00105042
        00105042 1 November 2014 14: 09
        -1
        Quote: Abbra
        I will not allow the VO pages to speak badly of the Russian Minister of Defense.
        just one episode, I will not relate to his activities in the Ministry of Emergencies, google his contribution to the events of October 93 and you will want to fit in for him.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 1 November 2014 17: 16
          0
          Quote: 00105042
          Quote: Abbra
          I will not allow the VO pages to speak badly of the Russian Minister of Defense.
          just one episode, I will not relate to his activities in the Ministry of Emergencies, google his contribution to the events of October 93 and you will want to fit in for him.

          I understand that for the United States Serdyukov was the best minister?
  23. tochila
    tochila 1 November 2014 13: 34
    +4
    It’s necessary to call! Scattering in small groups in parts - it is necessary! And to act according to the law! Chechens also happen to be different by the way and some serve well! Everyone came across me! A battalion commander was a Chechen in our brigade! Must serve!
  24. dosyl
    dosyl 1 November 2014 13: 48
    0
    Quote: Vlad49
    fight against Russians

    Another serious confirmation that Ukrohunte does not give a damn about the population of the southeast, to put it mildly, since they are russkie.Eto Svidomo and others are driven into Boska, such as Russia and the Russians occupied part of the territory of Ukraine.NO !!!!! The Russians lived there, live and will live. Ukrosoldat, dying, with emotion has time to think that he fought with the invaders of his homeland, and when he gets to the terrible judgment, he learns that he is a PUNISHER who killed his own people! I feel sorry for them".
  25. Steel loli
    Steel loli 1 November 2014 13: 56
    +4
    Here, hurray-p0tsreotam is unaware that there are regions in Russia where monuments to the soldiers who died in Chechnya have been erected. And in the same regions, for fifteen years in a row, the insolent representatives of the "Chechen diaspora" were given the trouble by local residents.
    So there is no need here la-la about "must serve", "proud people" and other garbage sucked out of the finger. Do you want to serve together with the Chechens? Serve yourself!
    And we, in the Kurgan region, do not need them.
  26. Kimblee
    Kimblee 1 November 2014 13: 58
    0
    One Chechen in the regiment - an exemplary soldier, two or more - a pack of uncontrollable hooligans.
    1. diz1975
      diz1975 1 November 2014 15: 30
      0
      There is some truth in your words. This is a problem, it must be solved by our command. I would like them to respect our armed forces and Russian soldiers.
    2. Weniamin
      Weniamin 1 November 2014 15: 54
      +1
      Based on my experience, your statements Steel Loli RU and Kimblee RU - FALSE.
  27. El_Alma_Herida
    El_Alma_Herida 1 November 2014 17: 09
    +3
    The Chechens themselves will be trained in military art. After a dozen years, you see the third campaign will begin. Of course, in fairness, as citizens of the Russian Federation, they are obliged to serve, but the consequences can be sad.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 1 November 2014 18: 32
      0
      Your thoughts are like party ones in the USSR. Then, too, young people were forbidden to engage in karate and other exotic martial arts so that they would not be rude on the street. But still, this did not stop. The guys took out educational books, built gyms in the basements ... Then it dawned that it was wrong and they allowed to organize sections, including paid. Every man has a passion for weapons in genes, and even more so in Caucasians. Therefore, without an army, they will find weapons and will master. Only without an army can they end up in training camps for terrorists in Syria or other countries, where they will also be thoroughly brainwashed. And the third campaign will begin if you do not attract youth to the army. Still, work is bad there, but there is nowhere to put strength. And in psychology they are still excellent soldiers, not workers at the machine tool or farmers in the field.
    2. Weniamin
      Weniamin 2 November 2014 13: 04
      -1
      Look at the Chechen war more detached. See history from the point of view of the depth of centuries. Caucasus, Asia, East - kamikaze, berserkers - ready to die no matter what. Now transfer your understanding to a purely Russian - love for the Motherland. These concepts are comparable. Both are worthy of respect. Do not forget that Russia is a trans-national nation in history. She has absorbed the best of so many cultures that it is a complete mess to overcome this way. And if we proceed from the fact that we are Orthodox, then watch the film "Fear the enemy of the ninth son."
  28. kelevra
    kelevra 1 November 2014 17: 40
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    I don’t understand why to describe everything in such a way and pay so much attention to such a topic! Chechnya is Russia, and not some separate country or autonomy within Russia. they took it away, it doesn’t mean anything! There are also normal people in Chechnya and there are not few, and there are enough deviators of scum all over Russia!
    1. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 1 November 2014 19: 04
      +1
      You tell the Chechens. That we are one country and one people. Maybe they just neigh, or maybe they cut off the head.
  29. kuz363
    kuz363 1 November 2014 18: 18
    +1
    Caucasians have always been born warriors and this cannot be taken away. And their youth always wanted to join the army, only they were not taken from Chechnya. They moved to other regions of Russia just to be called up. Therefore, you cannot push them away. And how was their Vostok battalion the first to enter South Ossetia and fight in 2008, while the rest of the Russian units were moving out of their positions? Organizing units like the Wild Division would be correct. Then there will be no reason for bullying. But the officers must also be Caucasians. Such units will be no worse than the GRU special forces. And many would have remained to serve on contract. This is what the state wants.
    1. Cenij150814
      Cenij150814 1 November 2014 18: 34
      +2
      Quote: kuz363
      Caucasians have always been born warriors and this cannot be taken away. And their youth always wanted to join the army

      They have such a mentality, two worthy pursuits for men are trade and war!
      Such units will be no worse than the GRU special forces

      Such statements immediately remind the name of Maskhadov, the sayings "who forgets history is doomed to repeat it", "with our own fat and our musals", etc., etc.
    2. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 1 November 2014 19: 07
      -1
      Maybe Vostok also fought with dignity in Osseti. But my comrade, the commander of the explosives reconnaissance group, during the clash, the "Kadyrovtsy" following them, "gutted" the dropped backpacks.
    3. 00105042
      00105042 1 November 2014 20: 34
      +4
      Quote: kuz363
      Caucasians have always been born warriors
      read less of the liberal press, they still write about hardworking migrants and that without jamon it’s not life, but totalitarian hell. Caucasians have never been born warriors, do not confuse a bandit with a warrior. And from what a fright * Vostok * suddenly entered South Ossetia first? Have you heard the echo of Moscow for the night? And the Chechen units are no worse than the GRU special forces, it’s an oxymoron, dear, in special forces you need to have a certain intellect in addition to combat training, and your beloved Caucasians are completely deprived of this. with real, not virtual Dagi and Chechens, your naive tolerance will be taken off your arm (or maybe with your foot or from injury). All the best.
  30. dimasialyt
    dimasialyt 1 November 2014 19: 21
    +4
    [quote = kuz363] "Caucasians have always been born warriors and this cannot be taken away." Have you had any experience with the "born" ?! Looting, banditry, racketeering for centuries .... In your opinion, since the barrel is in your hand, is it a warrior ?! The North Caucasus will repeat the path of the Golden Horde! The earth does not like parasites.
  31. Vladimir-R
    Vladimir-R 1 November 2014 19: 58
    +2
    In the USSR, from childhood they drove the idea of ​​inter-brotherhood and believed a lot .. until they got into our multinational Army .. where they quickly got rid of illusions .. Too different culture and mentality .., together with hazing .., gave an explosive mixture of relations ..Although the garrison didn’t glow with brotherly love / .., but the Chechens, when they were brought in by a man 30 times, surpassed everyone .. And only after a few fierce fights, where they were opposed together, the command came to their senses and scattered them .. Nobody asked us then .., but the impression is that the mixed multi-national composition of the Army, complete .., remains for life ..
  32. Fedor Andreevich
    Fedor Andreevich 1 November 2014 20: 25
    +4
    All these dances around the desire of Chechens to serve in the army pursues only one goal - after the service, prospects for service in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other structures open up. So no sense of duty drives them.
  33. Odinger
    Odinger 1 November 2014 22: 20
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    Chechens are different. In my time, several Chechens served with us (1987.hv6663), so the city is adequate, but the villainous ones (they didn’t like the Russians) were hard on them, but you don’t really care about the team, and the city ones kept them intact. Weak and Russian did not like. That is yes. And in 1999 communicated with locals in Chechnya, so too, very different. But the Russians have for the most part arranged as a neutral people between teips, and in the Dagas as well. Let them serve, but either in purely Chechen units, or 1-2 people with adequate Russians.
  34. EREMA
    EREMA 1 November 2014 22: 45
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    Quote: arjiev
    What kind of 200 Chechens have you buried there? Do we know who your national ghats are and others are burying peaceful people? If there are 10 thousand Chechens in Ukraine, then your national bastards will immediately be in Poland

    there were Chechens in the DPR ... without knowing, do not deny the obvious ... they went into raids from the Russian side ... I don’t know how it was next ... I only say what I know ...
    Quote: Abbra
    Yes, dad ... So you became the father of the killer.

    but I’ll tell you: in a war, all are either killers or potential killers ... that’s why it is a war ...
  35. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 2 November 2014 20: 22
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    Children of "big people" cannot get a job in the future without serving in the civil service. Now they will be called at home, to "their" units, to "their" officers, not the fact that many of them will go to serve at all, or will come only to take the oath. It's just that now there will be an official opportunity to issue military cards with a service mark. Previously, everyone knew that Chechens were not being drafted, but now ten military men will be extradited for one "serving".