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Zakharchenko denies reports of news agencies that published his words that 286 bodies of tortured girls were found near Krasnoarmeysk

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If a few hours ago, the Interfax and MIA "Russia Today" news agencies presented a quote from the Prime Minister of the DPR that 286 bodies of missing girls between the ages of 18 and 25 were found with signs of violence at Krasnoarmeysk, now LifeNews comes out with material that refutes Zakharchenko's quotes presented by the above-mentioned news agencies.

Zakharchenko denies reports of news agencies that published his words that 286 bodies of tortured girls were found near Krasnoarmeysk


This time, the head of the Donetsk People’s Republic claims that the media didn’t say so. In fact, he talked about 300-400 statements from local residents about the disappearance of their young relatives. Zakharchenko (for LifeNews) states that he did not speak about any discovered graves.

History more than strange. Several reputable news agencies that cited the head of the DPR either must confess that they have misinterpreted everything, or Alexander Zakharchenko himself must confess to presenting false information to the media. After all, we are talking about a war crime. If the bodies are found, then why is there no photo and video evidence? If no bodies were found, then who “spawned” data about 286 rape and murder victims?

So far Zakharchenko himself declares only this (about 286 victims):
I did not say that.


In any case, the situation looks ambiguous, because, it turns out that someone went to outright lies to attract the attention of millions of people.
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  1. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 31 October 2014 15: 19
    +5
    Something was wrong in the kingdom of Donetsk. The news was shocking. If there are no confirmations, then it’s calmer.
    1. Pervusha Isaev
      Pervusha Isaev 31 October 2014 15: 24
      +3
      286 tortured girls? just a concentration camp there, or what?
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 31 October 2014 15: 34
        +6
        We have all forgotten the proverb: "Trust but verify!"
        I myself try not to leave comments to such "news".
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 31 October 2014 19: 38
        +1
        Quote: Pervusha Isaev
        286 tortured girls? just a concentration camp there, or what?

        Much worse. Without any remorse and the like, punitive according to the experience of the Second World War destroy the civilian population. As the saying goes, you will not drink experience.
      3. b0bi
        b0bi 1 November 2014 15: 14
        0
        I immediately said that it was a stuffing.
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    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 31 October 2014 15: 33
      +2
      Well, right the kingdom of crooked mirrors.
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 31 October 2014 15: 38
      +1
      But where did the exact figure come from? Moreover, I had a good "walk" on the Internet. Well, how is it possible to make a reservation? Or that they were muddied up before the elections?
      1. Fing
        Fing 31 October 2014 15: 42
        +3
        Why be surprised? Thousands of Ukrainian media outlets are throwing our equipment through the forces of ukrokiborgs in the DPR.
        1. Viktor Kudinov
          Viktor Kudinov 31 October 2014 15: 53
          +3
          Nevertheless, while there is no information that all the missing girls of Krasnoarmeysk are alive and not subjected to violence, it is too early to say that the issue is closed. On the other hand, when Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, the Urainian mass media are lying, it is possible that the Donetsk Republic can use the tactics of enemies in the information war. Even if it's ugly. negative
    7. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 31 October 2014 16: 22
      +1
      Quote: TECHNAR
      Something was wrong in the kingdom of Donetsk. The news was shocking. If there are no confirmations, then it’s calmer.

      The main thing is to live and live long prematurely "buried", if this is so! But it's hard to believe in a "random error". And do not be moved by the "mercy" of the natsgads. Or - little evidence of their perversion and sadism in relation to the civilian population and prisoners of war?
    8. avt
      avt 31 October 2014 16: 39
      +1
      Quote: TECHNAR
      Something was wrong in the kingdom of Donetsk. The news was shocking.

      And again what is not clear? There is a war going on, a war in all directions, including information, which is STUPID to ignore, let alone miss the blows! How many times have our LiberoSMI danced on infa about the crucified boy in Slavyansk? It is necessary to deal specifically with propaganda and counter-propaganda, this is a complex matter and requires serious, painstaking work. And our "fourth estate" in the face of journalists, with rare exceptions, has forgotten how to work and is only running after "fried facts." And with this approach, to piss in misinformation - to piss two fingers, and then you will be tortured to break off - the one who justifies always gives a huge head start, even when he is one hundred percent right.
      1. nvv
        nvv 31 October 2014 16: 53
        +2
        The most disgusting thing is that they hit it from the back. And the enemy is here in VO.
        1. vsoltan
          vsoltan 31 October 2014 17: 08
          0
          techie, 1812 1945

          Allow me to support your statements? It is quite reasonable and non-standard, plus you

          NVV

          Partly agree, everyones are different here periodically ... but if there is a PERMANENT enemy, please, voice ... names, passwords, preferably attendance ...
        2. avt
          avt 31 October 2014 17: 12
          +1
          Quote: nvv
          The nastiest thing is that they hit from the back.

          And propaganda and especially counter-propaganda in general is a circular battle - you must always wait for a blow and prepare to repulse from all 360 degrees. With counter-propaganda it is even more difficult - you need to filter sources, information must be carefully, again, the timing of the presentation of the material ... many factors in a short period time needs to be calculated, and sometimes even coordinated with various departments, otherwise it is possible to break firewood and really put people's lives under serious threat. This is really the specifics of work, not just fun language of revenge. After all - ,, the word is not a sparrow - it will fly out, you will not catch “You have to think very hard about how your heart will respond“ And whoever lied once - who will believe you? ”Again, you have to have a good reaction - you cannot think for a long time. - Zhirinovsky, here he is so fiddling {now really tired, age, and he became a dignitary} not because he was born that way, he trained for a long time. to the end of the building and the speech rolled the hourly minimum towards the market, it was there before the construction of the high-rise building. laughing So, two in one. "In general, we have a C grade with propaganda, just a little bit by 1 in Russia, but it is still very far from full-fledged high-quality work.
  2. Stiletto
    Stiletto 31 October 2014 15: 20
    +6
    Oh, for some reason I don’t have a soul for Mr. Zakharchenko, what do you want to do with me! Strelkov, if he said anything, he was responsible for his words. And Porechenkova, by the way, was set up to the heap ...
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 31 October 2014 15: 37
      +3
      Quote: Stiletto
      Oh, for some reason I don’t have a soul for Mr. Zakharchenko

      This is not the first time that he refuses his words, let alone words, refused to sign a contract, they say he did not have authority ....
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      2. vsoltan
        vsoltan 31 October 2014 17: 11
        0
        Uncle

        I totally agree ... but let's not be so florid, but simpler, like: "fucking foggy"? laughing
    2. Igor_kh
      Igor_kh 31 October 2014 16: 53
      +2
      Shooters storyteller. He promised prisoners of the Poles and where? Not even a European Union passport.
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 31 October 2014 20: 12
        0
        Quote: Igor_kh
        He promised prisoners of the Poles and where?

        Prisoners are not prisoners but dead. Events around 32 APU checkpoints.
    3. Black
      Black 31 October 2014 23: 05
      -1
      Quote: Stiletto
      And Porechenkova, by the way, was set up to the heap ...


      Porechenkov could become an officer ... but he became a clover both by profession and by deeds !!!! Is he a child unreasonable, put on a helmet with the inscription "press" and well, smack with a machine gun?
  3. Hairy Siberian
    Hairy Siberian 31 October 2014 15: 20
    +1
    That damn zhurnalyugi! How can such things be balanced.
    Well, thank God that this is not true - this is the most important thing.
    1. Stanislav 1978
      Stanislav 1978 31 October 2014 15: 22
      +5
      Quote: Hairy Siberian
      That damn zhurnalyugi! How can such things be balanced.

      There are journalists, and there are those who earn ratings on the blood and on the mountain of people.
      1. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 31 October 2014 15: 24
        +1
        Quote: Stanislav 1978
        There are journalists, and there are those who earn ratings on the blood and on the mountain of people.

        Where they have this line, unfortunately, is sometimes not entirely clear.
        After all, I presented how these 286 girls are concentrated in one place, and then tortured to death.
        1. nvv
          nvv 31 October 2014 15: 56
          +3
          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          Quote: Stanislav 1978
          There are journalists, and there are those who earn ratings on the blood and on the mountain of people.

          Where they have this line, unfortunately, is sometimes not entirely clear.
          After all, I presented how these 286 girls are concentrated in one place, and then tortured to death.

          Guys, honestly, how many urops would you like to preserve? Well, doesn’t it reach you that one people want to separate and play off? Here are such articles. Well dumbeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!
          1. Stanislav 1978
            Stanislav 1978 31 October 2014 16: 00
            +1
            Quote: nvv

            Guys, honestly, how many urops would you like to preserve? Well, doesn’t it reach you that one people want to separate and play off? Here are such articles. Well dumbeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!

            I did not comment on the previous article. Commenting on emotions is not a thankful job. And the fact that they want to disconnect and bleed completely agree with you.
            1. nvv
              nvv 31 October 2014 16: 09
              -1
              Stanislav, mean hi this does not apply to you
              1. Hairy Siberian
                Hairy Siberian 31 October 2014 16: 17
                +1
                Quote: nvv
                Guys, honestly, how many urops would you like to preserve? Well, doesn’t it reach you that one people want to separate and play off? Here are such articles. Well dumbeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!

                I don’t understand something. Who is this stupid?
                Apparently only the "smart" could react indifferently to such news:
                The article.
                The head of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, said that about 1 girls aged 400 to 18 disappeared from the Dnepr-25 battalion in Krasnoarmeysk while they were there. The Prime Minister of the DPR reports that 286 female bodies with signs of violence were found by militias and local residents in different territories near Krasnoarmeysk. This information was distributed by RIA Novosti.
    2. Kindof
      Kindof 31 October 2014 16: 21
      0
      These are not journalists, but federal news agencies - from which journalists receive information
      These just do not miss disu
      Questions to the source
      1. nvv
        nvv 1 November 2014 01: 35
        0
        Quote: Kindof
        Questions to the source

        No, probably no, questions for us. When will we begin to think with our own head, and not "source"?
  4. Prager
    Prager 31 October 2014 15: 23
    +3
    in my opinion, Zakharchenko needs to communicate less even with the friendly press and self-PR, and he doesn’t need this, but to deal with the most pressing problems of the DPR. and the day after tomorrow elections.
  5. Hera7
    Hera7 31 October 2014 15: 24
    +2
    I got speechless when I found out about it, but it turned out to be a duck, a journalist who wrote this article on the head should be pounded, they’re not joking with such things.
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  7. Kosta153
    Kosta153 31 October 2014 15: 25
    0
    Is it possible to attract platypuses? If so, then who will attract them?
  8. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 31 October 2014 15: 26
    +2
    You’ll understand their fuck!
  9. Abbra
    Abbra 31 October 2014 15: 27
    +2
    Well, it’s necessary to understand Zakharchenko, who launched this duck ... Something often he began to be misunderstood. However, there is a war and information. This should not be forgotten.
  10. starshina pv
    starshina pv 31 October 2014 15: 30
    0
    something they won there ... or the election soon?
  11. avryz
    avryz 31 October 2014 15: 31
    +1
    We decided to correct the information, but for now cover
  12. Nychego
    Nychego 31 October 2014 15: 33
    +2
    Well, what the hell is going on? Why is there such a massive hit of news from Novorossia that is, to put it mildly, ambiguous?
    My purely personal opinion fits into the quote "it is not for nothing".
  13. Vend
    Vend 31 October 2014 15: 34
    0
    This is for stupid Ukrainian politicians, you can play a lie in relation to them. Mass hysteria against Ukraine is not difficult to do. laughing
  14. Vitalka
    Vitalka 31 October 2014 15: 35
    +3
    The tale is a lie, but a hint in it. Yes, the magazines, as always, crowed. Reports of the disappearance of young women are full. There are more than enough facts of disappearances and gang rape in the zone of the Avakov terrorist operation.
  15. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 31 October 2014 15: 37
    +5
    it’s our provocateurs already work .. someone New Russia like a bone in the throat.
    For such pearls in a decent society they beat with candelabra.
    A corrupt magazine if only to cut money on a hot duck.
  16. Bronik
    Bronik 31 October 2014 15: 37
    -5
    No one is allowed to raise their rating with gossip, especially with such terrible ones. Zakharchenko, as a leader, is a fat "minus".
  17. sever.56
    sever.56 31 October 2014 15: 38
    +5
    It is necessary to think and double-check the information a hundred times before publicizing it. Ugly situation. Let the Avakovs and Lysenko laugh with their bullshit, but it didn’t bother us.
  18. S-17
    S-17 31 October 2014 15: 47
    +2
    It constantly seems to me that this Zakharchenko is no better than the same nonsense Tsarev ...
  19. SAM 5
    SAM 5 31 October 2014 15: 47
    +1
    So who is 3,14? For such a disu (if this is so) it is necessary to attract in full.
  20. Abbra
    Abbra 31 October 2014 15: 48
    +1
    Today is not a good day. Either Zakharchenko (screwed up?) Screwed up, then Porechenkov got excited ...
  21. Not served
    Not served 31 October 2014 15: 48
    +3
    Well, in the first place it was said that they did not find in one place
    286 female bodies with traces of violence were found by militias and local residents in different territories near Krasnoarmeysk.

    The fact that these crimes have become a regular occurrence is a fact. Victims were either thrown away or thrown to relatives. And I’m sure that they will find. There is no smoke without fire.
    An acquaintance who communicated with Zakharchenko spoke very well of him. And the fact that journalists are doing this is simply because there is no serious responsibility for such things, and when they begin to tighten the screws, they yell "Censorship", "37 year", "Freedom of speech".
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 31 October 2014 16: 09
      0
      286 female bodies with traces of violence were found by militias and local residents in different territories near Krasnoarmeysk.

      ... these bodies - what are they? sat, walked, lay, watched the telly at home? how did you feel gave an interview? just given? ...

      Someone squeaked - the others picked up! Roasted! ...
  22. pahom54
    pahom54 31 October 2014 15: 50
    +3
    "In any case, the situation seems ambiguous"...,

    Guys, let's think a little ...
    Is it that someone is trying to make it out that 285 girls are either militias or retirees, they raped, killed and buried in a choir ??? Rave...
    They raped one by one and arranged a special burial, where then they must have taken the victims to bury ??? Rave...
    In general, the news of the burial of about 300 women girls, EXACTLY girls, is nonsense ...

    I can only guess that: judging by the previous ravings and mistakes made by Ukrainians at the highest level, this is all ill-conceived nonsense, ahuney and psaking !!!
  23. Bronik
    Bronik 31 October 2014 15: 59
    +1
    You cannot use unverified information in such a post, this time, this case of "screwing up" with Zakharchenko is far from the first, this is two. For example, at one of his first press conferences, he said that the Russian Armed Forces helped him with equipment and ammunition. said Normul?
  24. malik1971
    malik1971 31 October 2014 16: 03
    0
    Strange ALL THIS! WHERE THEN THESE NUMBERS THERE ???
  25. Victor1
    Victor1 31 October 2014 16: 08
    +2
    Zakharchenko is a muddy type, you can’t believe him, behind him are the traitors of Russia and the Russian People. The sooner the militias overthrew him, the better for the DPR, Donbass and the whole of New Russia.
  26. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 31 October 2014 16: 16
    0
    Listen, they screwed up, that’s all, I made a comment too. Maybe people will be denied or confirmed the info-right, it’s not far from the bickering, and this is probably the main task of the throw-in, plus the descriminization of the elections in the DPR ?!
  27. JonnyT
    JonnyT 31 October 2014 16: 22
    0
    nobly fed hohlyatsky trolls! Banal ignition !!!!
  28. Deadmen
    Deadmen 31 October 2014 16: 34
    0
    were there really people who believed in this misinformation?
  29. Reinhard
    Reinhard 31 October 2014 16: 34
    0
    Yet. There is no smoke without fire. One way or another. but everything else was gone ...
  30. Zymran
    Zymran 31 October 2014 16: 36
    0
    It was clear that it was a duck.
  31. kotev19
    kotev19 31 October 2014 16: 44
    0
    This is not the first case of paraphrasing the media of the statements of the DPR prime minister!

    A little help in clarifying the events taking place in New Russia:
    http://swissdefenceleague.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/novorossia-in-red-color-the-m
    military-mape-29th-october-2014 /
  32. Koronik
    Koronik 31 October 2014 16: 48
    0
    Another nameless duck of the yellow press is the same as information about the removal of the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia or the conversation of the president about the separation of Ukraine. An experienced commander and politician will not be scattered by such unverified facts
  33. Igor_kh
    Igor_kh 31 October 2014 16: 57
    0
    mass graves, most likely a fake. 1) one single video recording with 9 corpses 2) complete silence in the media a week after this event.
  34. hunn
    hunn 31 October 2014 17: 12
    0
    Quote: nvv
    All this is good of course. But what adrenaline !!!!! How many finished on the couch !!! In general, it’s sad. Neither mind nor imagination ...........

    Even one raped and murdered woman is not just sad, but very painful and I want to cut into the belts of everyone who did it
  35. Akulina
    Akulina 31 October 2014 17: 16
    +1
    Quote: TECHNAR
    Something was wrong in the kingdom of Donetsk. The news was shocking. If there are no confirmations, then it’s calmer.

    Yes, and here is Donetsk. There is nothing surprising in the fact that the muddy information flow around New Russia is growing. They will use any excuse to piss in the mud, slander and expose fools, murderers, liars, etc. to choose, everyone who is now in New Russia and in Russia is fighting for a just cause. It did not work out by storm, they will inflate all kinds of scandals and come up with the most incredible and murky stories. And then they will say - well, ask them how to deal with them - all quilted jackets are stupid. So Porechenkov, I wanted to do a good deed - I didn’t look at the helmet, I couldn’t tolerate it - I held on to the machine gun - and the stench had already been spread to the whole world. You just need to be very careful and remember who we are dealing with.
  36. PWG
    PWG 31 October 2014 17: 58
    0
    Zakharchenko does not believe anything at all, especially after Strelkov demanded that he remove the cross handed personally to him by Strelkov!
  37. Akulina
    Akulina 31 October 2014 19: 08
    0
    Quote: PWG
    Zakharchenko does not believe anything at all, especially after Strelkov demanded that he remove the cross handed personally to him by Strelkov!

    It is impossible to form an objective opinion about the situation and the person, if there are so many lies and information bells and whistles around. Maybe he didn’t demand, nothing, but maybe he demanded, but in the case, he had to wait and not chop off his shoulder. The enemy’s task today is to split the ranks of the defenders of New Russia and separate Russia and the Donbas, and at the same time we will quarrel in Russia itself. Drowning yourself, drown another - such is the principle of life.
  38. ringsoul
    ringsoul 31 October 2014 19: 20
    -1
    .... Or maybe .. "played back", so that the people do not kolobrodit, so that the ukrovs all over Russia do not start cutting? .. There are idiots / avengers, inadequate, because there are a lot .. So they were afraid ..
  39. Imandra
    Imandra 31 October 2014 19: 26
    +1
    Initially, the news appeared on the RIA Novosti website. Moreover, the headline read: 286 killed girls were found near Krasnogvardeysk, etc., and under the headline, the very statement of Zakharchenko, and in it only that 300 young women were missing. Probably everyone replicated the title without even looking into the article itself.
  40. cosmos132
    cosmos132 31 October 2014 20: 10
    -2
    This is a new (old) dill business - 286 missing Ukrainian girls found in the Middle East
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 31 October 2014 23: 19
      0
      Quote: cosmos132
      This is a new (old) dill business - 286 missing Ukrainian girls found in the Middle East

      For what minus? This option is not excluded.
  41. Pathfinder_II
    Pathfinder_II 31 October 2014 20: 22
    0
    1.) the number of corpses is clearly insane;
    2.) in a smaller number, obviously it can take place - just surf the Internet, look at porn sites and see the perverted mores of modern men; impunity in the war could have manifested itself in the violence of women, not necessarily in their killing, but in mockery precisely;
    3.) there is no evidence (corpses with traces of violence) - there should be no talk.
  42. Normal ok
    Normal ok 31 October 2014 22: 16
    0
    There is a war. Like any war, it has an informational (propaganda if you like) component. And as in any war there are unsuccessful maneuvers.
  43. Black
    Black 31 October 2014 23: 10
    +1
    Quote: Normal ok
    unsuccessful maneuvers


    Remember the habalka on the "first", with tears knowing about the crucifixion of the child by the ukrofashists ...
    What nafig maneuvers !!! Morons!
  44. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2014 06: 37
    +1
    Last month there were some "misunderstandings" related to Zakharchenko's speeches. He said, then no, he did not say that. It was easier under Strelkov. He said and did. He reported something - so it was in reality. What to expect tomorrow?