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Following Sweden's Palestine, Finland is ready to recognize an independent state. Israel's reaction

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On the eve of the Swedish government officially recognized Palestine as an independent state. At the same time, Swedish politicians announced that this could allow Stockholm to put pressure on Israel in order to set the Israeli authorities at the negotiating table with the Palestinian authorities. Separate emphasis was placed on the fact that Sweden can now impose anti-Israeli sanctions if the Israeli military strikes Palestine.

In response to the recognition of the Palestinian state as an independent Israeli government decided to withdraw its ambassador Isaac Bachman from Stockholm. Before that, the Swedish ambassador was called to the Israeli Foreign Ministry to hand him a note of protest against the decision of the government of the Scandinavian country. Reports about it France-Presse.

At the same time, Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman spoke out with bitter irony about Sweden:
The Swedish authorities, apparently, do not realize that the Middle East policy is somewhat more complicated than the assembly of IKEA furniture.


Today, the Finnish authorities are making it clear that they are ready to recognize Palestine as an independent state after the Swedish neighbors.

Following Sweden's Palestine, Finland is ready to recognize an independent state. Israel's reaction


In the Finnish parliament they say that the recognition of Palestine can lead to long-term peace in the Middle East.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 31 October 2014 13: 25
    +18
    The movement of geopolitical plates began, everything is like Valdai ... what
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 31 October 2014 13: 29
      +6
      The Scandinavians in their own way see the path to peace in the Middle East.
      1. tilovaykrisa
        tilovaykrisa 31 October 2014 13: 43
        -2
        Well done Israelis, about ikea trolling is good, but the Swedes had a good smoke if the IDF wants from the northern country there will be no horns or legs, but in general Europe has been fooling recently, then invisible submarines are looking for order to restore order on BV.
        1. jjj
          jjj 31 October 2014 13: 58
          +14
          Friends, these are not Scandinavians who have begun to pursue some kind of their policy. They act on the instructions of Washington, which is so trying to completely subordinate Israel to its will. Add to this the anti-Semitism and the growth of fascist sentiments that suddenly increased in Europe.
          We made friends with such a policy with China, make friends with Iran. So Israel will soon become our friend
          1. insafufa
            insafufa 31 October 2014 14: 04
            +2
            I apologize, but Israel should agree with Abas, although he doesn’t decide anything, but it’s better to negotiate than with Khomas
            1 Kosovo
            2 Falklands
            3 Abkhazia
            4 South Ossetia
            5 Crimea
            6 Palestine
            In line New Russia
            that you don’t want independence of Novorossiys
            1. comprochikos
              comprochikos 31 October 2014 14: 42
              +3
              Right now, Europe will play out that Israel will take and recognize South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea, together with New Russia.
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 31 October 2014 14: 54
                +7
                Quote: comprochikos
                Right now, Europe will play out that Israel will take and recognize South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea, together with New Russia.

                Yeah, keep your pocket wider. They’ll drop everything and admit it. laughing
                Here read what the representative of the Israeli Foreign Ministry says about the elections in the parliament. And it should be remembered that there was no condemnation of the actions of Kolomoisky, for example, by Israel.

                The Israeli Foreign Ministry called the new composition of the Ukrainian parliament benevolent and positive

                Israel positively assesses the composition of the new Verkhovna Rada, Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said, Interfax Ukraine reports. "The general composition of the new Verkhovna Rada is benevolent and positive," Lieberman said. According to him, Israel must "respect the results of elections in a foreign state." "We have good relations with the main parties, and of course with Petro Poroshenko and Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Although, I am not yet personally acquainted with the new party" Samopomich ", which is headed by the mayor of Lviv," the minister said. Lieberman emphasized that he maintains long-standing and constructive ties with a number of new and re-elected deputies of the Verkhovna Rada: "Those who passed through the single-mandate constituencies, Alexander Feldman and others, are familiar people, communicated with them more than once," he said. The minister also said that "key players in Ukrainian politics have been to Israel," and good contact has been established with them.
                Read more here: http://112.ua/politika/izrail-polozhitelno-ocenil-rezultaty-vyborov-v-radu-13728
                3.html

                Apparently they also have a good relationship with Yarosh! wink
              2. Harin Oleg
                Harin Oleg 31 October 2014 22: 39
                0
                Zae .... - with a soft sign? There is a game, and you are like children, the right word.
          2. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 31 October 2014 14: 43
            +3
            Quote: jjj
            So Israel will soon become our friend

            As long as Israel worships an overseas friend and basically runs on his leash, there will be no friendship with Russia. Just a meaningless relationship.
            Are you sure that Russia is ready to provide Israel with material assistance that replaces American? And without this, it makes no sense to think about friendship.
          3. Vadivak
            Vadivak 31 October 2014 16: 06
            +4
            Quote: jjj
            it is not the Scandinavians who began to pursue some kind of their policy. They act on the instructions of Washington


            ??

            Jews in the United States have long been in key positions. And in finance and in politics, therefore, the United States will not give offense to Jews. Therefore, the United States drove into Sweden on October 4 - the US State Department spoke out against the intention of the Swedish government to recognize the "state of Palestine"
            1. jjj
              jjj 31 October 2014 21: 52
              0
              Quote: Vadivak
              Jews in the US have long been in key posts

              There is one caveat. These people are people of money. This definition is not what I came up with. It means that people who manage huge capitals do not have a nationality in their worldview. And a Jew, a Muslim, and a Christian agree among themselves exclusively on a conversation of money. And, remember the classic, there is no such crime that they would not have committed for the sake of money.
              For the Jewish financial tycoons, Israel, as such, is of little interest, as is its population. Of course, if it does not bode well
        2. Sid.74
          Sid.74 31 October 2014 14: 02
          +2
          Yes, at least all 200 countries recognize Palestine, to the point! Essentially, this recognition will not change anything, how many decisions of the UN have already been against Israel and what!
          But the fact of such advances is certainly interesting. Why would it be? The world has entered a protracted phase of the struggle and this is probably the next round of confrontation in the BV.
          But why, do they really want Israel to enter a full-scale war in this way?
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 31 October 2014 14: 13
            +4
            The picture shows the Finnish parliament.
            Interestingly, they are always so "crowded" at parliamentary sessions? Maybe they are in the same composition and want to recognize Palestine? laughing
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 31 October 2014 14: 40
            +9
            Quote: Sid.74
            But the fact of such advances is certainly interesting. Why would it be?


            One of the reasons that does not lie on the surface is that in the United States among the influential world of Jewry, Hasidic positions have strengthened which, in principle, do not recognize the existence of the state of Israel. Conventionally, they can be called Kaganate leaders or Neo-Khazars. This is evident from many indirect signs and from the suddenly open mass protests of rabbis in New York against the service of orthodox Orthodox soldiers in the IDF, and there were more of them than Muslims in Moscow at the Eid al-Adha celebration. This is also evident from the events in Ukraine, where the kaganate leaders seized power and deftly make their own gesheft on split and blood. The alignment there is such that the Neo-Khazars benefit from the genocide of Ukraine when Ukrainians kill each other. Then they will hang Svidomo already who will have no place in the Neo-Khazaria ... This is a growing anti-Israeli demonstrations in Europe.
            Here are the data of the agency Sokhnut about the flight of Jews from prosperous America and Europe. Not from the totalitarian and anti-Semitic Russia about which the Russian-speaking Israeli media of Mr. Gusinsky are chirping, but from the "civilized world."
            Sohnut reports that the number of returnees in 5774 increased by 28% compared to the previous year and reached the maximum figure for 5 years - 24,8 thousand people applied for Israeli citizenship.

            Basically, olim went to Israel from France (6 people) and Ukraine (000 people). Also, about 4 Jews came from North America. Relative to the total Jewish population in these countries, the stated figures are 200%, 3% and 000% of Jews in America, France and Ukraine, respectively.

            The decisive factor that influenced the decision of returnees from France is the growth of anti-Semitism in the country, which reached its peak during the military operation “Indestructible Rock”.
            Ukrainians are leaving their homeland because of the ongoing anti-terrorist operation in the east of the country since March.

            But what drives American Jews? According to Jewish leaders, they are now more worried about issues of increased assimilation.

            link
            Well, the recognition of Palestine by the Scandinavians, the Baltic states were too shy to entrust this mission with any kind of luck in fascist states, it all fits into the geopolitical tasks of the Chabad neophytes to establish a new world capitalist order where their structures will play a dominant role. They need Israel at this stage as a Msionist project, but with such a development of the situation, a final break in relations with the United States or complete submission to the course is not ruled out in the future.
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 31 October 2014 15: 18
              +8
              The first geopolitical task they have already decided. They turned a bipolar world into a unipolar and destroyed the system of socialism.
              Berl Lazar is a Habadnik, he is today the chief rabbi of Russia, in 2005 in New York at the annual meeting of the Chabad sect he said about the collapse of the USSR:
              “Russia knew many revolutions, but the most peaceful, quietest and most effective is the revolution that the envoys of Chabad created”

              The second geopolitical task being solved now, consists in destroying the system of national capitalism and national states, destroying national elites, while the world will be rebuilt into a new single world state. The financial collapse will be followed by all other collapses: economic social, conflicts, collisions, all of which are calculated in order to eventually lead the world to a new world order. All of this we are experiencing with our own eyes. This is globalism - a unipolar world system controlled by supranational elites.
              The third geopolitical task - create a single world state-New Jerusalem. All resources will be in his hands. As well as the system of distribution of public goods between people included in the chosen golden billion and everyone else. Complete spiritual destruction of traditional values ​​and religions will follow. unnecessary human biomass will be destroyed by the rest spiritually decomposed by the ideals of consumption society and will be tightly controlled by a global network of technologies. The inclinations and methods of this new quasi-world state can be observed now.
              Of course, all this is ZOG and anti-Semitism, now they will tell me about it. Of course, But there is a good proverb, the higher the monkey climbs into the village, the more clearly its zaznitsa is visible. That's just Obama is that monkey who is called to solve the second geopolitical problem today. All the facts as they say on the face winked
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 31 October 2014 15: 36
                +5
                Quote: Ascetic
                Of course all this is ZOG and anti-Semitism

                Well, nevertheless! Many people have such thoughts on the site. Especially when you consider that many adherents of the Russian opposition and the oligarchy have very interesting roots. Goizman (the manual dog of Chubais and the one who put an equal sign between the SS and SMERSH) is an adherent of witnesses Gaidar and the economic a liberal miracle, Nemtsov with Israeli citizenship, Roizman (in which a whole network of white-tape and American agents appeared in Yekaterinburg). Here you want, you don't want to think about it.
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 31 October 2014 15: 43
                -5
                I will not tell you anything. It is very interesting to read you when discussing the performance characteristics of various techniques, but your deep conviction in the World Jewish conspiracy leaves no room for discussion.
                1. vsoltan
                  vsoltan 31 October 2014 17: 31
                  +4
                  Aaron Zawi

                  Aron, excuse me, you are ALL - there, in Israel, do you suffer from a persecution mania?
                  And to what extent do you identify with the Jews from mattress?
                  For me - different.
                  Historically, the Jews in our Russia have done, God knows what ... well, they have done, they have done ... and this very hour, at the present moment, they continue to do crap ... about the World Jewish Conspiracy - of course, nonsense ... another question that mutual support among the Jews causes respect and envy ... and on the other hand, each other "eats" no worse than the uneducated Russian peasants .. well, not so?
                  The motive of the message is "the Jews ran" ... I agree, an important prognostic sign ... and the statistics for the previous 20 years at least - where?
                2. shuhartred
                  shuhartred 31 October 2014 18: 29
                  +4
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  but your deep conviction in the World Jewish conspiracy leaves no room for discussion.

                  "If you're paranoid, that doesn't mean you're not being followed." Personally, I'm not sure of anything at all. Everywhere lies similar to the truth and all sorts of opinions of "experts" which only confuse everything more. The main thing all sounds very plausible and reasonable, you have to make a truly titanic effort for a more or less adequate analysis.
                  1. jjj
                    jjj 31 October 2014 22: 05
                    +2
                    Of course, the provisions and conclusions in the comments of the esteemed Ascetic have sufficient ground. We always keep them in mind and try on emerging situations. I just would like to note that the extreme again will be ordinary Jews. It astonishes me how stupid people fall for the same bait over and over again and support criminal and anti-criminal intentions purely at the call of blood. Here are some comments confirm this. And ordinary Jews, it turns out, Russia will again defend
                3. Ascetic
                  Ascetic 31 October 2014 22: 59
                  +2
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  World Jewish conspiracy leaves no room for discussion.



                  This is not a worldwide Jewish conspiracy, but the merger of large financial capital controlled by orthodox Jewish clans with large TNCs and the formation on the basis of this of large financial and industrial groups interested in globalizing the market and resources in order to extract superprofits and control the global economy. Israel will also suffer from their activities just like all other peoples. An example of Nazi Germany was also supported by them in their time.
                  In Israel, a Zionist project was implemented which was initially condemned in America by these groups and orthodox. Now the contradictions have escalated as soon as the leadership of the STATE of Israel began to take timid steps against Chabadniks from the United States. All over the world, the state interests of individual countries conflict with the plans of globalists. I hope you agree that Orthodox Christians should serve in the army and rabbis from the United States should not have privileges when passing customs control. Who tried to deprive them of Israel or what Bibi is called American cowardly Jews and coward? These are facts in general outline ... Even the ideological Zionist Eskin suddenly became such a popular patriot in Russia in the fight against American influence, which also leads to certain conclusions. This is not a Jewish conspiracy, but the intensified struggle of world centers of power for the future world order. And perhaps you as a Jew, on the contrary, should be flattered that your co-religionists play an important role in this struggle. smile
                  1. vsoltan
                    vsoltan 1 November 2014 00: 34
                    +1
                    Ascetic

                    1. Jews, frankly, let's put it this way - I don’t like it .. The state of Israel - I respect it very much .. so somehow
                    2. What money does the State of Israel count on? Can they feed themselves? Or have they cut back on funding? Sure - honor and praise be to them
                    3. The State of Israel, however, like all Jews, are potential allies .. you can negotiate and bargain with them ... except for our liberals, in Russia, arrogant and greyhound "fighters" lol
            2. Harin Oleg
              Harin Oleg 31 October 2014 22: 45
              0
              Quote: Ascetic
              Ascetic SU Today, 14:40 ↑

              Quote: Sid.74
              But the fact of such advances is certainly interesting. Why would it be?


              One of the reasons that does not lie on the surface is that in the United States among the influential world of Jewry, Hasidic positions have strengthened which, in principle, do not recognize the existence of the state of Israel. Conventionally, they can be called Kaganate leaders or Neo-Khazars. This is evident from many indirect signs and from the suddenly open mass protests of rabbis in New York against the service of orthodox Orthodox soldiers in the IDF, and there were more of them than Muslims in Moscow at the Eid al-Adha celebration. This is also seen in the events in Ukraine, where the kaganate leaders seized power and deftly make their own gesheft on split and blood. The layout there is such that the Neo-Khazars benefit from the genocide of Ukraine when the Ukrainians kill each other. Then they will hang Svidomites who will have no place in the Neo-Khazaria ... These are growing anti-Israeli actions in Europe.
              Here are the data of the agency Sokhnut about the flight of Jews from prosperous America and Europe. Not from the totalitarian and anti-Semitic Russia about which the Russian-speaking Israeli media of Mr. Gusinsky are chirping, but from the "civilized world."
              Sohnut reports that the number of returnees in 5774 increased by 28% compared to the previous year and reached the maximum figure for 5 years - 24,8 thousand people applied for Israeli citizenship.

              Basically, olim went to Israel from France (6 people) and Ukraine (000 people). Also, about 4 Jews came from North America. Relative to the total Jewish population in these countries, the stated figures are 200%, 3% and 000% of Jews in America, France and Ukraine, respectively.

              The decisive factor that influenced the decision of repatriates from France is the growth of anti-Semitism in the country, which reached its peak during the military operation “Indestructible Rock”.
              Ukrainians are leaving their homeland because of the ongoing anti-terrorist operation in the east of the country since March.

              But what drives American Jews? According to Jewish leaders, they are now more worried about issues of increased assimilation.

              link
              Well, the recognition of Palestine by the Scandinavians, the Baltic states were too shy to entrust this mission with any kind of luck in fascist states, it all fits into the geopolitical tasks of the Chabad neophytes to establish a new world capitalist order where their structures will play a dominant role. They need Israel at this stage as a Msionist project, but with such a development of the situation, a final break in relations with the United States or complete submission to the course is not ruled out in the future.

              It may be relevant, but without punctuation, it’s easier to shoot than watch how tormented ...
        3. xan
          xan 31 October 2014 14: 08
          +2
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Well done Israelis, about ikea trolling is good, but the Swedes had a smoke if the IDF wants from the northern country there will be no horns or legs

          Rear rat, are you Jewish?
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 31 October 2014 14: 26
            +1
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            The picture shows the Finnish parliament.
            And the shame is what they have in the sculpturesbelay Under the ancient Greeks "mow" wink
        4. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 31 October 2014 14: 35
          +1
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          Well done Israelis, about ikea trolling is good, but the Swedes had a good smoke if the IDF wants from the northern country there will be no horns or legs, but in general Europe has been fooling recently, then invisible submarines are looking for order to restore order on BV.

          What does the CASAL have to do with it? This is the business of diplomats. That Kosovo recognized 60 countries, and Abkhazia alone and what? Never mind. From whether Palestine is recognized in Europe or not, nothing will change.
        5. Vorlon
          Vorlon 31 October 2014 17: 52
          +1
          According to your Israel from Ikea will leave only "horns and legs". Please explain how? Will they get there in tanks? Will they sail on aircraft carriers? or will the submarine saboteurs arrive? Ah, I got it! They will deal a nuclear strike! although they deny that they have atomic weapons. By the way, you minus for This trolling.
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        7. shuhartred
          shuhartred 31 October 2014 18: 19
          0
          Quote: tilovaykrisa
          but the Swedes had a smoke if the IDF wants from a northern country there will be no horns or legs,

          And how, excuse me? Will the kernel be thrown?
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 31 October 2014 14: 34
      +2
      So what? Palestine in fact is. 80% of its territory is under Israeli occupation. Palestine was previously recognized by the BV states. What will change then?
    6. Kostyar
      Kostyar 31 October 2014 15: 11
      +1
      Fussing between "parasites", they no longer know where else to throw out their poison ...
  2. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 October 2014 13: 26
    +4
    Well, in general, 184 countries recognized them in my opinion at the UN, and these are the first countries from Europe. And they are not represented at the UN.
    1. Steel loli
      Steel loli 31 October 2014 14: 19
      +3
      Palestine has the rights of an "observer country" at the UN.
      The United States has already spoken out about this a year ago.
      1. Viktor Kudinov
        Viktor Kudinov 31 October 2014 14: 38
        +2
        This is a personal matter of Israel - it can react as it wishes to the recognition by Sweden and Finland of the Palestinian state. Another thing is more interesting - are they not going to recognize the Islamic state as Makar !? negative
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  3. SAM 5
    SAM 5 31 October 2014 13: 26
    +2
    Pricked up Lieberman about IKEA Swedes.
    1. 23 region
      23 region 31 October 2014 14: 20
      0
      Quote: SAM 5
      Pricked up Lieberman about IKEA Swedes.

      Most likely I meant that the Swedish furniture concern IKEA ordered individual parts in the countries of the then Eastern block - in Poland and the German Democratic Republic. It turned out that from the late sixties until the mid-eighties of the last century, the production of furniture used the free labor of East German prisoners, including “political prisoners”.
      That is to say, "the connection of times", now the "Holocaust" will be unrolled again.
  4. mirag2
    mirag2 31 October 2014 13: 27
    +3
    Yes. Honestly, this fact struck me.
    Obviously, Israel’s reaction will be expressed not only in the recall of diplomats, perhaps a little later there will be accusations of these countries (their governments) of frenzied anti-Semitism.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 31 October 2014 13: 52
      0
      Quote: mirag2
      mirag2 (3) RU Today, 13:27
      Yes. Honestly, this fact struck me.
      Obviously, Israel’s reaction will be expressed not only in the recall of diplomats, perhaps a little later there will be accusations of these countries (their governments) of frenzied anti-Semitism


      Accusations of anti-Semitism belay
      But how will they then beg for handouts from Europe?
      20.10.14 Germany gave Israel a discount of 300 million euros from the upcoming contract for the supply of three missile boats.
      Germany agreed to make a discount of 300 million euros (about 382 million dollars) of the cost of the planned contract for the supply of three missile boats to protect gas fields in offshore areas of Israel.
      Israel requested a contract reduction of 30 percent, as was the case with previous deals on German submarines.
      http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodnie/data/ic_perevodnie/5991/
      Having developed these gas and oil fields, Israel further wants to become the main supplier of these energy carriers to Europe instead of Russia.
      So will he quarrel with Europe?
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 31 October 2014 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: quilted jacket

        Accusations of anti-Semitism belay
        But how will they then beg for handouts from Europe?
        20.10.14 Germany gave Israel a discount of 300 million euros from the upcoming contract for the supply of three missile boats.
        Germany agreed to make a discount of 300 million euros (about 382 million dollars) of the cost of the planned contract for the supply of three missile boats to protect gas fields in offshore areas of Israel.
        Israel requested a contract reduction of 30 percent, as was the case with previous deals on German submarines.
        http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodnie/data/ic_perevodnie/5991/
        Having developed these gas and oil fields, Israel further wants to become the main supplier of these energy carriers to Europe instead of Russia.
        So will he quarrel with Europe?

        Continuous delirium. First, the Germans broke down on the discount after the Israeli Defense Ministry announced an initial tender for the supply of corvettes, which the Italians or Koreans had a chance to win. The Germans preferred the "bird in hand".
        As for the Israeli gas fields, they are great only for Israel, for Europe these are extremely small volumes.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 31 October 2014 14: 57
          -1
          Well, delirium or not delirium, this is not for me, I gave a link to the site. If you have something to argue other than shouting "delirium", "lie", etc. object but for now it will be as it is written.
          Small volumes? I already gave an article where Israel plans to export gas to Europe.
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 31 October 2014 15: 17
            +3
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Well, delirium or not delirium, this is not for me, I gave a link to the site. If you have something to argue other than shouting "delirium", "lie", etc. object but for now it will be as it is written.
            Small volumes? I already gave an article where Israel plans to export gas to Europe.

            There may be gas exports in the future, but our fields can replace a maximum of 5% of the gas supplied by Gazprom. And the nonsense is that you wrote "begs". Israel is bargaining hard and trying to bargain for itself the most favorable terms, so what's wrong here? Don't the buyers of Russian weapons do the same?
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 31 October 2014 18: 02
              -1
              Quote: Aaron Zawi

              There may be gas exports in the future, but our fields can replace a maximum of 5% of the gas supplied by Gazprom. And the nonsense is that you wrote "begs". Israel is bargaining hard and trying to bargain for itself the most favorable terms, so what's wrong here? Don't the buyers of Russian weapons do the same?


              Is there confirmation that you have negotiated favorable conditions for yourself?
              Or is it just words again?
              By gas:
              For many years, Israelis searched for oil and gas on their shelf, but its truly large reserves were discovered by the American company Noble Energy only in 2009-2010. According to preliminary estimates, we are talking about 950 billion cubic meters of gas, the potential value of which exceeds $ 260 billion. The main fields are Tamar (283 billion cubic meters), located 90 km west of Haifa port at a depth of 5 thousand meters , and Leviathan (450 billion cubic meters), located 140 km from the coast, closer to the sea border with Lebanon.
              Israel, especially if the forecast for the expansion of its reserves from 2016 is confirmed, could just become, according to experts of the Institute for Policy and Strategy, such a reliable alternative source of gas supplies to Europe for at least 50 years. According to these estimates, Israel could supply up to 30 billion cubic meters of gas to Europe annually and "reduce its dependence on Russian gas to 23%."
              http://voprosik.net/izrail-stanet-eksporterom-gaza/
  5. Stanislav 1978
    Stanislav 1978 31 October 2014 13: 27
    +5
    Finnish parliament says recognition of Palestine can lead to lasting peace in the Middle East
    In my opinion, even if most of Europe recognizes Palestine, there will still be no peace there until the states put pressure on Israel.
    1. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 31 October 2014 13: 45
      0
      EEEhh something is being handed over by the northern peoples, and they saw mushrooms brought in to Chukhon.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 October 2014 15: 23
      +3
      Quote: Stanislav 1978
      there will still be no peace there until the states put pressure on Israel.

      On the contrary. Peace will come if the United States and Europe cease to put pressure on Israel, and they finally carry out a full-fledged counter-terrorist operation, destroying Hamas. In the West Bank, until recently, these terrojugs were not, and comparative calm was observed there.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 31 October 2014 18: 23
        -1
        Shovels Today, 15: 23 ↑
        On the contrary. Peace will come if the United States and Europe cease to put pressure on Israel, and they finally carry out a full-fledged counter-terrorist operation, destroying Hamas. In the West Bank, until recently, these terrojugs were not, and comparative calm was observed there.


        What is your lexicon "dead", "destroy"?
        You know now on the border with Syria, in your neighbors al-Nusra, and Israel has no conflicts whatsoever.
        Or are they not terrorists for your state? lol
  6. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 31 October 2014 13: 29
    +3
    All this is not without reason, these "independent" countries have been given the go-ahead to stir Israel with such actions.
  7. propolsky
    propolsky 31 October 2014 13: 30
    +3
    Well, they recognized it all right, especially since all people in the world have a right to exist, but let them decide what their state will be called.
  8. arslan23
    arslan23 31 October 2014 13: 33
    +3
    Interestingly, the professor will write something?
  9. Abbra
    Abbra 31 October 2014 13: 34
    +1
    A direct hint to Israel from the US ...
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 October 2014 13: 36
    +2
    In response to the recognition of the Palestinian State as independent, the Israeli authorities decided to withdraw their ambassador Isaac Bachmann from Stockholm

    It is felt that this is not all the measures that Mzrail plans. Interestingly, as soon as the United States, through the fault of the Obama, relations with Israel became strained, the EU countries immediately decided to recognize Palestine.
  11. Alexander
    Alexander 31 October 2014 13: 37
    +2
    But they are not going to recognize Abkhazia, South Ossetia and New Russia wink
    1. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 31 October 2014 13: 38
      -10
      and Chechnya!
  12. Yellow white
    Yellow white 31 October 2014 13: 40
    +3
    Not without reason is all!
    oh not without reason, somewhere now either "zhahnet" or the plane will fall .... pah-pah of course.
    But this is not just recognition, in general everything in the world is being done for a reason ... hi
  13. Appius
    Appius 31 October 2014 13: 40
    +2
    I want to believe that there will someday come peace, through Scandinavia or in another way, but there will be peace.
  14. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 31 October 2014 13: 45
    0
    Well for Palestine drinks ... how much blood was shed there (but I think they will still shed ..) And still glad hi
  15. RusDV
    RusDV 31 October 2014 13: 45
    +3
    Well, it's clear with the Swedes ... they lie tightly under the states and work for them. But the Finns ... pretended to be a kind of "neutral" ... No, I'm not against Palestine. It's about something else. The Palestinian issue is now with HUGE difficulty untwisting mattress toppers ... they now need it too much (why is a separate and big question), but Europe has enough other problems, and you are ... taken care of ... like, yourself ...
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 31 October 2014 14: 10
      0
      The recognition of Palestine is, in principle, beneficial to Syria and Iran, and many more players in the world.
      If there begins a big conflict with the participation of Israel, and radical Muslims from all over the world rush to liberate the territories occupied by them, this will be one of the solutions to the problem of Islamic fanatics (including in Europe).
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 31 October 2014 13: 52
    +2
    For 2000 years there has not been and will not be peace.
  17. prishelec
    prishelec 31 October 2014 13: 54
    +2
    The good news is, the Jews were offended, they called off the ambassador, they see if the Jews can be allowed to create their own state, and the Palestinians cannot be allowed to do this from the point of view of the Jews, well, the Jews are used to mocking these people for decades, taking away lands, Palestinian territory of the Jews, more arrogant and hypocritical people do not exist!
  18. atalef
    atalef 31 October 2014 14: 06
    +2
    Well recognized. and?
    1. IS-80
      IS-80 31 October 2014 14: 12
      +1
      Quote: atalef
      Well recognized. and?


      They also wrote in the article:
      In response to the recognition of the Palestinian State as independent, the Israeli authorities decided to withdraw their ambassador Isaac Bachmann from Stockholm. Prior to this, the Swedish ambassador was called to the Israeli Foreign Ministry to present him with notes of protest against the decision of the government of the Scandinavian country. It is reported by France-Presse.

      At the same time, Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman spoke out with bitter irony about Sweden:
      The Swedish authorities, apparently, do not realize that the Middle East policy is somewhat more complicated than the assembly of IKEA furniture.
      1. Reader
        Reader 31 October 2014 14: 15
        +3
        Now Lieberman will have to joke about Nokia.
        1. atalef
          atalef 31 October 2014 16: 09
          +1
          Quote: Reader
          Now Lieberman will have to joke about Nokia.

          Nokia? Sucks.
          1. Reader
            Reader 31 October 2014 21: 59
            0
            Now, when Lieberman will have to laugh it off about iPhones, then there will be no laughing matter.
          2. Neksel
            Neksel 1 November 2014 02: 47
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Nokia? Sucks.


            And in general, already under Microsoft.
      2. atalef
        atalef 31 October 2014 16: 09
        +3
        Quote: IS-80
        At the same time, Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman spoke out with bitter irony about Sweden:
        The Swedish authorities, apparently, do not realize that the Middle East policy is somewhat more complicated than the assembly of IKEA furniture.

        AND !
        Clear ,
        Swedish Foreign Minister Margot Wallström, commenting on the crisis in relations with Israel, said in an interview with CNN that she was ready to send her Israeli counterpart Avigdor Lieberman a parcel with furniture from IKEA, “so that he would understand that assembling it requires a partner, cooperation and good instruction ".

        Swedes. for more they lack the mind
        Will they send us instructions?
  19. Prager
    Prager 31 October 2014 14: 07
    +1
    Something the Scandinavians have become quite active in foreign policy recently. lol
  20. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 31 October 2014 14: 12
    +2
    Israeli sanctions against Sweden are expected in the form of the refusal of citizens of this country to use the services of buffets in eateries of various types ...))
  21. imugn
    imugn 31 October 2014 14: 16
    -2
    The dwarf state that defeated the fisherman in coastal waters recognized the independence of a certain territory
  22. IAlex
    IAlex 31 October 2014 14: 20
    0
    The Yankees subtly hint to the Talmud supporters trying to play by their own rules through the sixes that they will not tolerate peace in the Middle East, for the market for American weapons and influence will fall if relative equilibrium in the Middle East sets in. T.ch. the massacre in the Middle East is a long time ...

    Since half of the Israeli population are arrogantly stubborn immigrants from the USSR, they don’t really care about all the arrivals, they will have the maximum on arms purchases with China, all the more it will cheaply and calmly cover the US lending program, and since armies are fighting weak Chinese weapons there and its quite enough.

    T.ch. the USA does not have special instruments of influence, and their cheap demarches only make it worse for themselves ...
  23. biglow
    biglow 31 October 2014 14: 20
    +2
    This is some kind of trial balloon, although the purpose of this recognition is most likely to put pressure on Israel .. Perhaps the Americans want something from Israel, but Israel itself does not want to do this ... hi
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 31 October 2014 14: 39
      +4
      Quote: biglow
      Perhaps the Americans want something from Israel, but Israel itself does not want to do this ...

      in this particular case, the United States does not want anything special from Israel. Palestine is a huge curtsey towards Iran. Recognition of Palestine is an advance to Iran. A carrot on a pole ... In return, Iran is expected to return to the dollar zone and the redirection of oil and gas FOR DOLLARS to Europe. As a result, Iran is gradually beginning to lift sanctions and recognize its role as an Islamic leader in the BV. Russia (by design) has huge problems with the sale of its own resources. At stake is the world leadership of mattress toppers. The role of Israel is "stay on the sidelines, boy, don't bother me ... I've already given you candy ..."
  24. pensioner
    pensioner 31 October 2014 14: 24
    +2
    Israel's reaction
    -nervous. laughing
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 31 October 2014 14: 33
      +2
      Quote: retired
      Israel's reaction
      -nervous. laughing

      Nervous, to say the least ... Revenge will be pointy and quiet .. (banks will fill up .. will lower the currency, etc.) We have known this in Russia for a long time .. bully
  25. Wolka
    Wolka 31 October 2014 14: 40
    0
    serious bid, however, but we'll see
  26. kelevra
    kelevra 31 October 2014 14: 52
    0
    We look forward to continuing, it's not just that!
  27. padded jacket
    padded jacket 31 October 2014 14: 59
    +2
    And a film about the occupation of independent Palestine by the Israeli invaders:
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 31 October 2014 15: 26
      -7
      Vatnik, and such videos about the Russian capture of Chechnya or Tatarstan, you can’t post, probably walk on the network. You are clearly in the subject.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 31 October 2014 18: 13
        0
        Aron Zaawi (2) IL Today, 15: 26 ↑
        Vatnik, and such videos about the Russian capture of Chechnya or Tatarstan, you can’t post, probably walk on the network. You are clearly in that


        Firstly, Russians did not capture Tatarstan (maybe you confused Ivan the Terrible’s campaign in Kazan? But it was a very, very long time, long before the birth of our great-grandfathers smile )
        Secondly, in Chechnya, we fought against international terrorism.
        You brutally and meanly occupied independent Palestine (not counting the other territories seized by your regime), killing many of its citizens and driving the rest to the reservation.
        1. atalef
          atalef 31 October 2014 18: 17
          -1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          You brutally and meanly occupied independent Palestine

          independent? belay
          Vata. you burn today. when was she independent?
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 31 October 2014 18: 27
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: quilted jacket
            You brutally and meanly occupied independent Palestine

            independent? belay
            Vata. you burn today. when was she independent?


            Always, read books and watch films that I post, perhaps the Israeli propaganda has not yet "powdered" your brains.
            1. atalef
              atalef 31 October 2014 18: 30
              +2
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: quilted jacket
              You brutally and meanly occupied independent Palestine

              independent? belay
              Vata. you burn today. when was she independent?


              Always, read books and watch films that I post, perhaps the Israeli propaganda has not yet "powdered" your brains.

              Blah blah blah (as always)
              And on the topic, what do you say?
              So when was Palestine independent?
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 31 October 2014 18: 39
                0
                atalef (5) IL Today, 18: 30 ↑
                Blah blah blah (as always)
                And on the topic, what do you say?
                So when was Palestine independent?


                Especially (including) and for people like you posted a movie.
                Look, maybe you can even learn from the films the history of the lands on which your predatory education is now located.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 31 October 2014 18: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Especially (including) and for people like you posted a movie.

                  Hang cartoons for your children
                  I ask again. when the state of Palestine existed and when it was independent
                  Please - Capital, borders. president (or something like that), etc.
                  Attributes of the state.
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Look, maybe you can even learn from the films the history of the lands on which your predatory education is now located.

                  Hollow Breast.
                  Will you answer the question?
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 31 October 2014 18: 54
                    0
                    atalef (5) IL Today, 18: 45 ↑
                    Hang cartoons for your children
                    I ask again. when the state of Palestine existed and when it was independent
                    Please - Capital, borders. president (or something like that), etc.
                    Attributes of the state.


                    Listen, don’t know, read books, if you don’t know how, go back to school.
                    I’m not going to tell you common truths that even a child knows.
                    You are not educated smile
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 31 October 2014 18: 57
                      +2
                      Quote: quilted jacket
                      you don’t know, read books; if you don’t know how, go back to school.
                      I’m not going to tell you common truths that even a child knows.
                      You are not educated

                      Well, okay . as always empty chatter and nothing concrete
                      So maybe a reference dash (you are our educated), to some authoritative source.
                      so when was the independent state of Palestine?

                      AND? Mr. Trololo laughing
                      Sorry, formed by Trololo laughing
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 31 October 2014 19: 21
                        0
                        atalef (5) IL Today, 18: 57 ↑


                        Link, you do not know how to read?
                        The state did not even have time to form because the Israeli invaders seized its territory and began to destroy and expel the Palestinians.
                        Ask someone to read to you for sure there are literate people in your city:
                        62 years of the tragedy of Palestine 1948 - 2010.
                        http://nnm.me/blogs/master222/palestinskiy_holokost_62_goda_tragedii_palestiny_1
                        948_2010 /
                      2. atalef
                        atalef 31 October 2014 19: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        The state did not even have time to form

                        Vata, do not brake
                        you wrote about the INDEPENDENT STATE OF PALESTINE - was it like that or not
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        because the Israeli invaders seized its territory and began to destroy and expel the Palestinians.

                        Again with a finger to the sky.
                        Tell me, did the palms agree to the state?
                        And who attacked whom?

                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Ask someone to read to you for sure there are literate people in your city:

                        No . we do not have
                        The only literate is you.
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        62 years of the tragedy of Palestine 1948 - 2010.

                        I'll pay right now. laughing
                      3. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 31 October 2014 19: 53
                        -1
                        atalef (5) IL Today, 19: 41 ↑
                        No . we do not have


                        There are no literate people, it’s very sad, so I’ll post a film for you. And please do not cry, otherwise I worry about your mental state:

                        And yet, Orthodox Jews do not want to go to kill Palestinians (correctly let the simple and not very well-read Jews die, for overseas rich):
                      4. atalef
                        atalef 31 October 2014 19: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        No literate is very sad, so I will post a movie for you.

                        toon to your children lay out.
                        Please authoritative Old, preferably from authoritative sources.
                        (although you can’t remember this word).
                        Was yapping them and stay.
                        Train on cats.
                        Trololo laughing
                      5. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 31 October 2014 20: 07
                        0
                        atalef (5) IL Today, 19: 59 ↑
                        Please authoritative Old, preferably from authoritative sources.
                        (although you can’t remember this word).
                        Was yapping them and stay.
                        Train on cats.
                        Trololo laughing


                        Yes, you are not able to watch movies, it seems completely disabled laughing
                        And there is enough information from you and anyway you are still not able to recognize it. lol
                      6. atalef
                        atalef 31 October 2014 20: 09
                        0
                        Quote: quilted jacket
                        Yes, you are not able to watch movies, it seems completely disabled
                        And there is enough information from you and anyway you are still not able to recognize it.

                        Well, we talked hi
  28. Vadim237
    Vadim237 31 October 2014 15: 06
    +1
    Soon all the small states will be recognized as independent, we are now officially recognizing the LPR and DPR.
  29. lexx2038
    lexx2038 31 October 2014 15: 15
    +2
    A great world war is beginning and forming, there will be no front as such, everyone will fight against everyone, and each for himself.
  30. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 31 October 2014 15: 50
    +1
    Israel is already beginning to be pushed to the side as if it had won back its material (or as a reserve), and Palestine’s recognition is being rolled out for testing - mind you, deliberately neutral countries (Sweden, Finland). The next should be Switzerland (if there are absolutely fools there), or all sorts of atolls that were told that coconuts are now only theirs, they gave a flag, a stool to the UN and the right to print money and stamps.
  31. s30461
    s30461 31 October 2014 16: 01
    +2
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    I will not tell you anything. It is very interesting to read you when discussing the performance characteristics of various techniques, but your deep conviction in the World Jewish conspiracy leaves no room for discussion.

    So enlighten us, we are not Jews. We do not know your internal currents. As in the rest and an ordinary Israeli ... We judge by the affairs of the representatives of your people, and not by articles in the media.
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    1. Neksel
      Neksel 1 November 2014 02: 53
      +1
      Quote: Kirqiz SSR
      I can’t get the Zionist creatures.

      And the Zionists are creatures. wink
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 1 November 2014 10: 43
        0
        Quote: Neksel
        Quote: Kirqiz SSR
        I can’t get the Zionist creatures.

        And the Zionists are creatures. wink


        Zionists = fascists, and they both proclaimed the creation of the state of one nation, the Nazis are Germans, and the Zionists Jews.
        And their methods are very similar, for example, now the Israelis drove the Palestinians into enclaves and fenced off them with a wall.
        A direct analogy with the Nazis who built concentration camps.
        Therefore, most likely Nazism, this is a continuation of Zionism.
  33. SveTok
    SveTok 31 October 2014 18: 30
    0
    I think so from the recognition of Palestine, peace will not come there, although we all desire it.
  34. Prutkov
    Prutkov 31 October 2014 18: 42
    +1
    Quote: RusDV
    Quote: biglow
    Perhaps the Americans want something from Israel, but Israel itself does not want to do this ...

    in this particular case, the United States does not want anything special from Israel. Palestine is a huge curtsey towards Iran. Recognition of Palestine is an advance to Iran. A carrot on a pole ... In return, Iran is expected to return to the dollar zone and the redirection of oil and gas FOR DOLLARS to Europe. As a result, Iran is gradually beginning to lift sanctions and recognize its role as an Islamic leader in the BV. Russia (by design) has huge problems with the sale of its own resources. At stake is the world leadership of mattress toppers. The role of Israel is "stay on the sidelines, boy, don't bother me ... I've already given you candy ..."

    Not sure. The sanctions were imposed in response to Iran's nuclear program. And they can only be withdrawn if a) Iran abandons its nuclear program (which the Persians are in no hurry to do), b) the United States "allows" the Persians to make their nuclear bomb and "loses face", and also greatly spoil their relations with Israil and, how strangely enough, with the Saudis. We will soon find out which of these two evils the mattress covers will choose. But the question is this. If the United States is going to sell oil and gas to Europe and for this "squeeze" Russia out of there, then why would they let Iran go there? To then displace the Persians from the European market? Not logical.
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 1 November 2014 06: 30
      0
      Quote: Rods
      Not sure. The sanctions were imposed in response to Iran's nuclear program. And they can only be withdrawn if a) Iran abandons its nuclear program (which the Persians are in no hurry to do), b) the United States "allows" the Persians to make their nuclear bomb and "loses face", and also greatly spoil their relations with Israil and, how strangely enough, with the Saudis. We will soon find out which of these two evils the mattress covers will choose. But the question is this. If the United States is going to sell oil and gas to Europe and for this "squeeze" Russia out of there, then why would they let Iran go there? To then displace the Persians from the European market? Not logical.

      Why is it not logical? Economically it is logical. And politics is a concentrated expression of the economy. By the way, the "skeleton" of the US-Iranian policy I have laid out is not entirely mine. Professor Katasonov on this topic enlightened very convincingly
  35. Aasdem
    Aasdem 1 November 2014 08: 12
    +1
    I'm afraid most of the emotions laid out in the form of comments do not answer the question: "What will the process of recognizing Palestine by other countries give Russia?"
    and nuance - neutrals began, and pawns on a world level.
    I'm afraid of a problem - both sides will begin to demand that Russia choose one or the other. and you have to make a choice.
    and here but!
    And whom to recognize then? Palestine does not exist as a country - there is no single territory, there is no economy (subsidies do not count), there is no history of the country, there is no single government.
    But Israel, in its essence, is an artificially created state, yes there is an economy, but everything rests on US subsidies and its support. remove the US from this system, how long will Israel last? (I am not an anti-Semite, but a realist) - all neighboring countries, knowing that Israel does not have the support of either the United States or anyone else, will start a war until they lose their "pulse", just to win.
    and if you dig deeper, then all Middle Eastern countries are simply vestiges of the colonial system, they are weak initially, otherwise there would have been no ISIS, no war in Syria, no war in Lebanon.