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Egor Kholmogorov: Blue suet

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Egor Kholmogorov: Blue suet


I congratulate Ukraine on its first major achievement on the path of European integration. For the first time, Ukraine successfully managed to accomplish, in association with the EU, the trick of a scandalous hysterical blackmailer who, dozens, hundreds, if not thousands of times, worked in relations with Russia.

Gas agreements between Russia, Ukraine and the EU are signed.

I believe that, based on logic, the EU actually agrees to pay Ukraine’s debts for gas in full - 5 billion dollars, of which 3 billion will come by the end of the year, and one billion in the coming days.

Further gas purchases by Ukraine will be made on a prepaid basis with the same symbolic discount in 100 dollars, which Russia offered from the very beginning. Price on the basis of discounts will be 385 dollars.

In other words, Ukraine and the EU completely capitulated to Russia.

If this agreement is really fulfilled, then I sincerely congratulate Ukraine on its first serious foreign policy achievement on the path to European integration.

For the first time, Ukraine successfully managed to accomplish, in association with the EU, the trick of a scandalous hysterical blackmailer who, dozens, hundreds, if not thousands of times, worked in relations with Russia.

This is an unreal big achievement. Here are no fools.

For the last year and a half, warning Ukraine against European integration, the experts unanimously said something like: “What are you, all these things and the misbehavior with Brussels will not pass, only Moscow will tolerate this, you tear yourself away from the breastfeeding breast.”

And mighty experts were wrong. Faced with Ukrainian methods of arm-twisting and begging, the EU eventually capitulated to them.

Peremoga? Peremoga

Residents of the city of Kiev and the townships adjacent to it can also be congratulated for the fact that their preparation for the land will proceed a little slower, and they will be able to ride not from the cold, but for their own pleasure.

And also I express the hope that now they will not burn down their city together with its cultural values ​​in vain attempts to warm themselves with stoves and kerosene.

I congratulate Russia on the fact that Ukraine has disintegrated with Russia and now it’s not ours that bangs money. On the contrary, we kick money from its new owners.

Russian gas diplomacy has shown firm-stone firmness over these six months and, despite numerous skeptical forecasts, has not retreated from its position one iota: "In the morning money is gas in the evening."

Russia did not allow this time to solve the problem at its expense, it spoke in the language of ultimatums and achieved it. The European Union had to assimilate the sexist mores of our plains: whoever dances a girl, he eats her.

If we consider that the main problem of Russian politics - whether it is imperial, Soviet friendship of nations or cooperation within the framework of the CMEA, Russian suffering with the CIS and various economic unions - was the constant ability to breed a poorhouse of hundreds of freeloaders, today's agreements can be considered a very major strategic achievement.

Perhaps the largest after the reunification of the Crimea and the support of the uprising of New Russia.

However, the gas agreement should by no means lead to any weakening of our resolve to resolve territorial issues. I hope that no one even thought of the idea that Novorossia could be a tool for knocking out debts, a substantial amount of which, in fact, our state corporations for one peck.

Friendly lands with a friendly population are incomparably more valuable collateral than money. I hope that the leaders of our policy understand this.

Americans also have something to congratulate. I congratulate the United States on the fact that the new-born pug very famously began to bite the Europeans by the thighs and control their movements no worse than the most popular camp sheepdog.

The Americans once again succeeded in reminding the Europeans with the teeth of Ukraine that in this big game they were puppets, only puppets and nobody else but puppets.

And only the EU has absolutely nothing to congratulate me on.

In addition, in the near future they will have another humiliation associated with the court and the sanctions for the non-return of "Mistral".

I would venture only to remind the European Union that the rules for communicating with blackmailers everywhere and at all times are simple. Having paid the blackmailer once, he will not get rid of him.
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  1. Denis
    Denis 1 November 2014 07: 02
    +22

    This time Russia did not give a solution to the problem at its expense, spoke the language of ultimatums and achieved its goal
    Enough is enough
    For nefig, and you’re used to
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 1 November 2014 07: 11
      +12
      By the way, about Mistral! Here a new deliberation is pecking. laughing

      The employee of the French company responsible for the supply of Mistral was fired because of a letter to Moscow
      The management of the shipbuilding company DCNS suspended Yves Destefanis, who was responsible for the Russian Federation’s supply of Mistral-type helicopter carriers, from duty. The alleged reason for the dismissal was a letter to Moscow. The message on behalf of the corporation contained an invitation to the ceremony of transferring the first of the two Mistrals, which France should deliver to Russia.
      Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/57321#ixzz3HmaanFLr
      Frenchmen are more and more immersed in insanity! fool
      1. raketnik
        raketnik 1 November 2014 07: 18
        +14
        but notice how a man bent everyone in the Champs Elysees !!!!! that's a shame then ????
        1. Stalevar
          Stalevar 1 November 2014 07: 29
          +14
          remind the Europeans that they are puppets in this big game, only puppets and no one except puppets.

          Exactly. They are puppets. And the suicide puppets! The iron logic of a sane person dictates that the dependence of gas supplies on insane Ukraine should be reduced and the South Stream should be built. But the puppeteer is against and Europe pays for itself and for Hohland and will continue to pay. The poor French are well aware that the refusal to supply the Mistrals will hurt the French economy and even more hurt its prestige. They understand that this contract must be fulfilled and the ships must be handed over to Russia. But the puppeteer is against and the French become clowns of the "mattress" circus for the amusement of the whole world and for the joy of the owner. Pragmatic Germans are losing huge "loot" from the sanctions against Russia and logic demands that these same sanctions be taken and canceled. But the puppeteer is against and Germany, with zombie stubbornness, insists on the need to tighten the punishment. Do you need more proof?
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 1 November 2014 07: 46
            +12
            Quote: Stalevar
            The poor French are well aware that the refusal to supply the Mistrals will hurt the French economy and even more hurt its prestige.

            And to the black master everything is exactly! laughing

            Well, and as a result! Add more sanctions! laughing
          2. solkhat
            solkhat 1 November 2014 09: 21
            +3
            It is interesting to look at all this European democracy after the elections in the DPR and LPR, when we recognize the elections and their results.
            1. papas-57
              papas-57 1 November 2014 14: 40
              +3
              “Russian gas diplomacy has shown a rock-solid firmness over these six months.” Don't tell stories. If Russian gas diplomacy had shown steadfastness over these six months, Ukraine would not have had such debts for gas. For half a year, Ukrainians begged to pay debts, continuing gas supplies, and they turned on the fool and ... Ardent greetings to effective managers from Gazprom from residents of Russia, to whom gas is turned off at the slightest debt without warning.
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        2. 12423 student
          12423 student 1 November 2014 08: 36
          +3
          the sexist customs of our plains: whoever dances a girl eats her.

          What cannibalistic manners!
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    2. a52333
      a52333 1 November 2014 07: 49
      +8
      What can be said Europe?
      "There was no trouble for the woman, so I bought piglet."
      wink
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 1 November 2014 10: 05
      +1
      The EU is stuck in a story with Ukraine, simply put, bursting to the fullest.
    4. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 1 November 2014 10: 30
      +5
      Quote: Denis
      Hoholpososuti

      And Ukrainians for the same essence.
    5. mihasik
      mihasik 1 November 2014 10: 40
      +5
      Quote: Denis
      Enough is enough
      For nefig, and you’re used to

      And here is not a fact))
      Miller what did he say? That after the first tranche, in 48 hours they will give gas.
      Now comes the fun part. The first tranche, what's this? The first part of paying the debt? If so, giving gas in 48 hours, Gazprom again sponsors (credits) Ukraine without prepayment under the EU guarantee, which publicly refused to give this same guarantor, and Gazprom is not even going to wait for the full payment of the cut debt. I have not heard about prepayment this year from any "talking head", but only about prepayment for the next one! So that? Have you already paid for the period November-December?)))
      So where, as the author said, is the rock hardness of the Russian Federation? But just the EU and Ukraine have a peremog!))) Not only have they washed out the supplies without prepayment and full payment of the debt for this year, they also knocked out a discount of $ 100 and knocked down the price at a low oil rate!)) Peremoga! Not for us! Congratulate everyone! "Defeated", their mother!
      1. ROD VDVshny
        ROD VDVshny 1 November 2014 12: 37
        +3
        Quote: mihasik
        Now comes the fun part. The first tranche, what's this? The first part of paying the debt? If so, giving gas in 48 hours, Gazprom again sponsors (credits) Ukraine without prepayment under the EU guarantee, which publicly refused to give this same guarantor, and Gazprom is not even going to wait for the full payment of the cut debt. I haven't heard about prepayment this year from any "talking head", but only about prepayment for the next one!

        As far as I understand from all the countless meetings, disputes and statements, it turns out so ...
        - The stumbling block was the lack of guarantees from Ukraine that the available funds, as well as the promised EU 760 million, would be spent on partial payment of the debt and prepayment.
        -confirmation of this was the statement of Angelka in Slovakia that the Kaklams themselves need to establish relations with Gazprom and make more efforts to pay their bills from domestic revenues.
        Analyzing the reluctance of Sold (read-Iitsinyukha) to give such guarantees, it can be assumed that raking out of their pockets in all available cash makes them impossible to:
        - the implementation of plans for a war against Novorossiya - even from the statements of volunteers it follows that the army is not ready for winter. There are no uniforms, no opportunities to winter on the "front line", there are statements about an acute shortage of batteries for BTT, winter fuel, antifreeze. Deals with food supply and food supplies, extremely low funding for military medicine are unsatisfactory.
        - Prevention of a catastrophic situation in the electricity sector - coal at most TPPs is available for 5-7 days. A whole meeting with categorical conclusions and directions was devoted to this. But no money was allocated.
        - there are very large debts on salaries and social programs
        - There is a need to service gigantic external debts.
        The situation is TRISHKIN KAFTAN. Now Kaklov was obliged to give guarantees that the money would be spent on paying debts. Failure to fulfill obligations to pay all amounts and prepayments for the New Year will lead to the fact that on January 01 there will be no gas again. In the midst of winter.

        I do not pretend that my opinion is completely correct. I will listen to all points of view with pleasure.
        1. mihasik
          mihasik 1 November 2014 13: 42
          0
          Quote: CONNECTING ROD VDVshny
          The situation is TRISHKIN KAFTAN. Now Kaklov was obliged to give guarantees that the money would be spent on paying debts. Failure to fulfill obligations to pay all amounts and prepayments for the New Year will lead to the fact that on January 01 there will be no gas again. In the midst of winter.

          Yes, I agree that they will be deprived of the financing of the war, but this despite the fact that Gazprom will squeeze out debt and prepayment from Ukraine. Prepayment is delayed until January 1, and gas will be supplied now. That is what? Again they will lend. Money (although not all) will remain for war. Peremoga?)) And the obligation of payments and guarantees of the EU and the new US-Ukrainian authorities we saw on February 21, when Yanukovych signed the agreement.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 1 November 2014 13: 47
        0
        And here is not a fact))


        Damn, well, it is clearly said that "on prepayment, after debt repayment." As far as I understand, gas will go after NG, since the Europeans will give the second part of the money at the end of the year. Although there are no guarantees, so it may still remain on paper in general.
        1. mihasik
          mihasik 1 November 2014 13: 59
          -1
          Quote: alicante11
          And here is not a fact))


          Damn, well, it is clearly said that "on prepayment, after debt repayment." As far as I understand, gas will go after NG, since the Europeans will give the second part of the money at the end of the year. Although there are no guarantees, so it may still remain on paper in general.

          Listen carefully to Miller. I will repeat myself. He said that gas will be delivered to Ukraine after the transfer of the first tranche in 48 hours. 2 billion. " Where is there even a hint of prepayment !!!!? The above is the payment of the cut debt.
          Cool down guys with prepaid. There will probably be a victory, but not with Gazprom.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 2 November 2014 08: 59
            0
            Further gas purchases by Ukraine will be made on a prepaid basis with the same symbolic discount in 100 dollars, which Russia offered from the very beginning. Price on the basis of discounts will be 385 dollars.


            Everyone pulls out of context what is beneficial to him?
    6. Altona
      Altona 1 November 2014 12: 16
      +2
      Quote: Denis
      Enough is enough
      For nefig, and you’re used to

      ----------------------------
      Let the EU take Kuev to feed itself ... For Nekuyu ... And for the gas of the treba, pennies are spent ... laughing
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 1 November 2014 13: 47
        -1
        Quote: Altona
        Quote: Denis
        Enough is enough
        For nefig, and you’re used to

        ----------------------------
        Let the EU take Kuev to feed itself ... For Nekuyu ... And for the gas of the treba, pennies are spent ... laughing

        Well no! Judging from the latest agreements of Gazprom, at least until the New Year, we will feed .... So with Gazprom "peremog" for the Russian Federation is not expected.
        Listen carefully not what they say in our media, but what they DO NOT SPEAK !!!
    7. Denis fj
      Denis fj 1 November 2014 14: 11
      +3
      No, Putin is a very competent coach. Leads the team to success where there is a serious struggle for the prize, leaves its own forces under hard pressure and superior forces and how an experienced fighter uses the enemy’s energy to neutralize his attacks and immediately counterattack.
      Do you think what is the reason for his luck and skill? Of course, in us, so reluctant to get used to living RIGHT, but ready to turn this crazy world upside down, singing "Varyag" in chorus.
      Eh, we were lucky with the people, mother klyanus, uh!
  2. Kovlad
    Kovlad 1 November 2014 07: 02
    +7
    But how will Ukraine live? People more precisely. Debts will be asked sooner or later.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 1 November 2014 07: 09
      +7
      Quote: Kovlad
      Debts will be asked sooner or later.

      And for that there is a formula "To all whom I owe, I forgive."lol
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 1 November 2014 09: 42
        +2
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: Kovlad
        Debts will be asked sooner or later.

        And for that there is a formula "To all whom I owe, I forgive."lol

        What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull.
        Do not confuse the USA with Ukraine.
        Ukraine’s desire to write off its debts does not interest anyone.
        Although, if they overthrow the Maidan, they will go over to the side of Russia and denounce everything that was accepted after the overthrow of Yanukovych, then the West will be forced to wipe themselves, but they were not forced to give money to imposters.
        The one who ultimately turns out to be the loser of the current global geopolitical crisis will pay for everything.
      2. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 1 November 2014 10: 12
        +1
        I would not be so categorical. Europe is tolerant of any vices, it’s not a matter of freezing. The Anglo-Saxons will still take their own, one way or another. The question is who will pay what.
    2. Denis
      Denis 1 November 2014 07: 19
      +8
      Quote: Kovlad
      But how will Ukraine live?

      In the EU, you always need to take out the streets of revenge and pots. Maybe they see a way out, a civilized way out in the Baltic

      Although it’s more correct
    3. sazhka4
      sazhka4 1 November 2014 08: 34
      +11
      Alexander Zhilin
      I am often asked why, at the request of the Ukrainian delegation, gas negotiations always begin late in the evening and take place at night?
      The answer is simple. The Ukrainian side sits at the negotiating table when the American masters come to work. Look at the time difference between Brussels and Washington and everything will become clear to you.
      Such a specific independence.
      http://vz.ru/news/2014/10/31/713360.html
      I don’t think that the geyropa is any different.
    4. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 09: 35
      +5
      Quote: Kovlad
      But how will Ukraine live? People more precisely. Debts will be asked sooner or later.

      To feel sorry for Ukrainians now is the same as to feel sorry for a drug addict - they will not understand.
      While they themselves will not take up the mind (not to be confused with cunning), any pity will only harm them and themselves.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 1 November 2014 10: 31
        +1
        Quote: PENZYAC
        (not to be confused with cunning)

        At the expense of cunning, I recalled such a saying. Crest was born, a Jew cried. It seems the state of Israel is not where we know. So to dissolve the EU, probably even the Jews are weak.
    5. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 1 November 2014 10: 51
      0
      And still have to give.
      And if there is no denyuzhek?
      What problems? They will give either services (what?), Or territory (which?).
    6. RV-83
      RV-83 1 November 2014 12: 03
      +1
      Well, what does the bank do in such cases? Correctly - the taking of property and living space ... recourse
  3. Vladislav
    Vladislav 1 November 2014 07: 02
    +9
    In other words, Ukraine and the EU are fully
    capitulated to Russia.
    It’s too early to talk about surrender! Not everything is so simple (s).
  4. dimdimich71
    dimdimich71 1 November 2014 07: 04
    +2
    In the future, Europe will be in the black, cheap rabsila, a bunch of girls on the panels. Europe has its own, and someone in the literal sense .....
    1. mamont5
      mamont5 1 November 2014 08: 11
      +3
      Quote: dimdimich71
      In the future, Europe will be in the black, cheap rabsila, a bunch of girls on the panels. Europe has its own, and someone in the literal sense .....


      And then the EU does not have enough cheap labor? And the presence of girls on the panels only corrupts.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 1 November 2014 12: 10
        +1
        Quote: mamont5
        And then the EU does not have enough cheap labor? And the presence of girls on the panels only corrupts.

        The girls there are no longer needed!) There are more parubkov, the LGBT community has been waiting.
    2. solkhat
      solkhat 1 November 2014 09: 26
      +1
      Europe has no idea how many Ukrainians will pour in to them. There is a good saying: when a crest was born, a Jew burst into tears. They are also slaughtered with Ukrainian labor.
  5. saag
    saag 1 November 2014 07: 04
    +6
    The EU twisted its own hands, they were building South Stream, and if it weren't for the EU's quirks, there would be none of this
    1. quote
      quote 1 November 2014 07: 15
      +4
      they were building South Stream, and if it weren't for the EU quirks, there would be none of this
      So the State Department also steers these kookies! And the Pugs stupidly execute. They break their legs against their own free will, and this is already understood by everyone in Geyropa. But the chief ordered.
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 15
        +2
        Quote: devis
        they were building South Stream, and if it weren't for the EU quirks, there would be none of this
        So the State Department also steers these kookies! And the Pugs stupidly execute. They break their legs against their own free will, and this is already understood by everyone in Geyropa. But the chief ordered.

        And what, does the "main" make them fear of death?
        Let their power-holders less sin, less and there will be compromising. Everything is in their hands, after all.
  6. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 1 November 2014 07: 05
    +10
    from the Don.
    You will have to pay the population for the sick EURO COMMISSARS (goof-commissioners). But for how long will the patience and the Eureks be enough, the question is interesting. The Czechs, Hungarians, Anglo-Saxons will be the first to pop! What do you think?
    1. s.melioxin
      s.melioxin 1 November 2014 07: 15
      +7
      and we think so. It's one thing to hang over, but damn it, not every day reveling in a freebie. Although Ukrainians, they are also in Africa Ukrainians.
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    3. Sid.74
      Sid.74 1 November 2014 07: 23
      +9
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      !And what do you think?

      Nope! The first Germans bucked, to pay it to a greater extent to them. In general, already half of the EU openly sends Ukraine to such a mother. And the Poles are shocked by the bandera and coal for free, and the Slovaks are not a cubic meter gas for nothing, Czechs, Hungarians, Romanians, Austrians, Serbs, in general, are also not enthusiastic, and the Balts shut up. It’s one thing for the Europeans to tear their throats and ride on the Maidan, and it’s quite another to pay for it. This is where the clear realization of the fact begins, and it’s a fig in general it was necessary to!
      1. solkhat
        solkhat 1 November 2014 09: 30
        +4
        Ukraine lives by the principle: first we will eat yours. And then each our own. Let's see how much money the Europeans have to keep self-sufficient and non-stop.
    4. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 16
      +3
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      from the Don.
      You will have to pay the population for the sick EURO COMMISSARS (goof-commissioners). But for how long will the patience and the Eureks be enough, the question is interesting. The Czechs, Hungarians, Anglo-Saxons will be the first to pop! What do you think?

      So the Hungarians are already "bucking up", they even threaten to leave the EU.
  7. CARLSON
    CARLSON 1 November 2014 07: 16
    +7
    The main thing is to create difficulties for yourself, then to overcome them heroically. Here, Mr. Evropa created them for herself in February and now she is trying to overcome them at her own expense, and not for ours, as they wanted, I am silent about Kh.Okhlov, now they also had a freebie on the other side and now they’ll disperse completely, so that they know how to beg, for 23 years mastered this perfectly.
    1. pticas
      pticas 1 November 2014 08: 08
      +5
      It seems to me that the Ukrainians got a slip!
      Capitalists know how to count a denyuzhku and now they’ll start to bend Ukraine, forcing the population to raise gas tariffs, and the rest of the housing and communal services.
      Porshenko and Yatsenyuk, if they do not feel how this will turn out, will be incredibly surprised by the news from Maidanov.
      I accept bets on the term of the government!
  8. pensioner
    pensioner 1 November 2014 07: 19
    +11
    I agree with all the provisions of the article. Thanks to the author. hi As Chuvakin noted yesterday: the solemn transplantation of Ukraine from our shoulders to the shoulders of the EU has taken place.
    1. SHILO
      1 November 2014 07: 50
      +4
      Good morning yura hi
      How is your health? wink
      And by the way! How do you like the picture? I picked up the article myself. lol
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 1 November 2014 08: 00
        +5
        Thanks Kostya. Today is much better. The picture is super! good
        Hi dear! hi If you refine it a little, it will become a universal congratulatory address. And there are worthy of him at any enterprise yes .
    2. askort154
      askort154 1 November 2014 09: 35
      +1
      pensioner ..... Ukraine from our shoulders to the shoulders of the EU took place.

      "Don't say gop until you've jumped over the hole." Because, as events develop, and they are not predictable, then Ukraine will still "drink Russian blood", and the longer we pretend to be a "good knight", the more problems there will be.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2014 07: 25
    +5
    For the first time, Ukraine successfully managed to accomplish, in association with the EU, the trick of a scandalous hysterical blackmailer who, dozens, hundreds, if not thousands of times, worked in relations with Russia.

    In the near future, the gamerope will have to experience something else. Today, evil "maydanutye" are already standing at your doorstep with an outstretched hand. Tomorrow they will be already in the house and will take everything clean, while they will lament how difficult it is for them to fight "Russian aggression" alone and defend Europe with their bosom.
  10. sv68
    sv68 1 November 2014 07: 25
    +3
    when these $ 1,4 billion are transferred to us, then you can claim someone’s victory. Now, let’s put gas on and don’t see horseradish, Europe won’t find any money and ukrodiniya that is on the accounts will spend on the war, you don’t think can happen? Europe has repeatedly shown that they are with Ukrodiniya-one gang will lie and promise-and then-include the back, or even in the bushes, ours were not here. as long as only the sixth column wins, we were forced to bend under the power, but how will it go with the dough? and I’ll not open the ventil millar and close it back ut-intolerant you know whether to miserable wretched.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 26
      +3
      Quote: sv68
      when these $ 1,4 billion are transferred to us, then you can claim someone’s victory. Now, let’s put gas on and don’t see horseradish, Europe won’t find any money and ukrodiniya that is on the accounts will spend on the war, you don’t think can happen? ...

      And where did you get the idea that gas will go before money?
      All agreements were signed on the terms: "money in the morning, chairs in the evening, but money in advance."
  11. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 1 November 2014 07: 34
    +4
    Surprisingly, Europe’s cunning asshole was scampering for Ukrainians, now uk ... they won’t get off the Europeans, these Ukrainians will be cleaner than the Greeks, Europe will howl but it won’t go anywhere, the overseas owner will pay money, especially ordered, and even the old woman does not want to freeze in winter.
  12. AlNick
    AlNick 1 November 2014 07: 40
    +2
    Everything is paid, and the Fed p.pin.do.sov how many pieces of paper are needed, so much and print ... am
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 34
      0
      Quote: AlNick
      Everything is paid, and the Fed p.pin.do.sov how many pieces of paper are needed, so much and print ... am

      And where does the Fed? The EU Central Bank and Germany will have to pay for everything. America itself is not going to pay for anything, even with drawn candy wrappers. For this they have a "big brother" (NSA, CIA and other special services) and the subsequent blackmailing of the Euro-bosses is available.
  13. SAM 5
    SAM 5 1 November 2014 07: 42
    +7
    Russian gas diplomacy has shown solid stone hardness over the past six months

    Finally learned to defend their interests
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 1 November 2014 15: 56
      0
      Quote: SAM 5
      Russian gas diplomacy has shown solid stone hardness over the past six months

      Finally learned to defend their interests

      And where did you get this? Have we seen enough of our media?
      I translate in plain text: GAS WILL BE DELIVERED WITHOUT ADVANCE PAYMENT TO UKRAINE BY NEW YEAR! THOSE. ON CREDIT! Here is the real result of the signed agreements!
      At least no one has stuttered about prepayment this year! Do not wishful thinking!
      They pump up so much in two months that enough for the whole winter, and from the New Year they will again refuse to pay debts and even more so talk about some kind of virtual prepayment there!
      What are you so naive!
  14. asiat_61
    asiat_61 1 November 2014 07: 51
    +6
    By the way, about Mistral! Here a new peremoga pecks And why do we need these floating sheds? I have nothing to do with the fleet, but they (in the sheds) have a terrible look
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 36
      0
      Quote: asiat_61
      By the way, about Mistral! Here a new peremoga pecks And why do we need these floating sheds? I have nothing to do with the fleet, but they (in the sheds) have a terrible look

      That which is not beautiful cannot be perfect!
      Everything perfect is beautiful!
    2. RV-83
      RV-83 1 November 2014 12: 38
      0
      Generally speaking, it’s a mixture of a floating base for helicopters with a landing barge with ridiculous armaments. With regard to the tasks of our fleet, the usefulness of these ships is dubious, and in the course of this whole story it turned out that we could build one ourselves.
  15. Loner_53
    Loner_53 1 November 2014 07: 52
    +4
    I would venture only to remind the European Union that the rules for communicating with blackmailers everywhere and at all times are simple. Having paid the blackmailer once, he will not get rid of him.
    congratulations to the geyropu with this, so to speak wassat
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 1 November 2014 07: 54
    +6
    Yeah. Sold all in sweat, struggled like a lion with mosquitoes and almost convinced the EU that they could not find a better partner for integration. True, there is a small nuance. The EU representative’s eyes went a little out of their sockets and the kondraty almost ran out of reinforced concrete arguments from the glorious dill Minister. But you can understand it. The experience of the gas princess strongly encouraged the convolutions of the mysterious soul of dill. He revealed his talent. I sincerely want to congratulate the EU.
  17. Quantum
    Quantum 1 November 2014 07: 57
    +3
    The EU refused to guarantee the payment of gas by Ukraine. Consequently, again
    another kid! In Dill, money was cut long ago or spent on the army
    and the Great Ukrainian Wall. On Monday-Tuesday, we will see this.
    The next chubber with gas is brewing. It is profitable for Ukraine to steal it and create a crisis with supplies to the EU.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 42
      +1
      Quote: Quantum
      ... Another rip-off with gas is brewing. It is profitable for Ukraine to steal it and create a crisis with supplies to the EU.

      This is how to look ... Rather, it is beneficial to the American owners of dill. And dill is any freebie - a balm for a baptized soul.
      And in my opinion, dill are not capable of thinking about the future. Everyone hopes for Russian "maybe". By the way, it is not clear how ideologically correct it is for dill to hope for "maybe"He’s all the same Russian a-priory?
  18. askort154
    askort154 1 November 2014 07: 58
    +1
    There’s some media confusion over the signing of the gas agreement. As I understood from yesterday’s news,
    that the EU did not agree to pay for Ukraine. Ukraine claims that it has the money to pay off the debt of 1,6 billion, instead of 5 in fact, to which GAZPROM agreed, but the prepayment was left in force, but not for 385 dollars, but 378 dollars and only until April. what? All over again ?! So we again followed the lead, and so it will be endlessly. We are constantly divorced, because in this matter we have "seven Fridays for weeks", instead of a firm one - NO! Ukrainians have learned this long ago and chew at the expense of blackmailing Russia and the EU. As I already got this endless gas-soap serial.
  19. 00105042
    00105042 1 November 2014 08: 06
    +4
    when real money comes to the budget of Russia for past and present gas supplies, then it will be possible to write victorious reports, but it’s too early. Yesterday, commentators tried to figure out the intricacies of the gas agreement, and no one really got to the truth, so everything is confused. sing hallelujah
  20. Evilcat
    Evilcat 1 November 2014 08: 29
    +4
    I believe that, based on logic, the EU actually agrees to pay Ukraine’s debts for gas in full - 5 billion dollars, of which 3 billion will come by the end of the year, and one billion in the coming days.

    Correctly believe. It’s easier to pay off your debts than to sit without gas yourself.
  21. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 1 November 2014 08: 49
    0
    Ukrainians in their repertoire, but Europe surprised. But still I’m sure that zealous Germans will not allow themselves to ride
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 1 November 2014 10: 53
      +1
      Quote: FC SKIF
      Ukrainians in their repertoire, but Europe surprised. But still I’m sure that zealous Germans will not allow themselves to ride

      Already allowed, at least the Americans not only ride, but their playful legs dangled ...
  22. deadj
    deadj 1 November 2014 09: 07
    +3
    finally we Ukrainians shoved these fools from Europe, let them fumble.
  23. Prager
    Prager 1 November 2014 10: 14
    +1
    I will never believe that Ukrainians will not steal our gas this winter. Ukrainians and theft are two twin brothers. am
  24. 5775EC5
    5775EC5 1 November 2014 10: 19
    +1
    The West will not pay anything for Ukraine. They clearly said "we gave you 3 billion - pay." Only this money has long been gone. Therefore, they will continue to steal gas. That's all. And our elite, fearing to spoil their personal relations with the West, will pump gas. But all the same to this country-thief a skiff. It is Europe that will kill them. They don't know pity there. There will be a lack of a sales market and the collapse of production.
  25. sazhka4
    sazhka4 1 November 2014 10: 49
    0
    It’s strange that the slogan “Ukraine is above all” does not bother the geyrope .. Oh, and they will take a grief .. They just haven’t faced directly yet. After all, they also fall into this category.
    "Words, words, where is your joy.
    The words are gone, the muck remains ... "
  26. captain
    captain 1 November 2014 10: 58
    0
    And what is there to be surprised? The president is a Jew (Poroshenko-Waltzman), the prime Jew (Yatsenyuk), and where is it seen that Jews would be deceived?
  27. MarKon
    MarKon 1 November 2014 12: 01
    0
    As far as I remember, as a result of the negotiations of 5,3 billion 2, it hung somewhere (arithmetic, however). And where is our victory here?
  28. siberalt
    siberalt 1 November 2014 12: 58
    0
    Quote: Solhat
    It is interesting to look at all this European democracy after the elections in the DPR and LPR, when we recognize the elections and their results.

    Watch the reaction. This one of them laughing There will be no others.
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  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 November 2014 14: 51
    0
    In fact, the ruin was given to Europe to eat. Or do you think that Europe will pay for urine for this. As I see it. soon we will see how the ruin is drained to dryness, compensating for gas payments and other loans. Again for payment. If urine does not pay in the coming days, gas will sit further without gas. If you pay, this is for her no more than a delay until the end of the year. Then the next payment. You can’t rest on our laurels now. Now the constant war is on. It is necessary to squeeze Europe in the UP, to conduct active negotiations on the partial deployment of the European heavyweight in our territory.
  31. Straight
    Straight 1 November 2014 15: 58
    0
    And what could not be pulled with negotiations at least until the New Year, which would completely disrupt their ATO?
  32. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 1 November 2014 21: 39
    0
    I enjoyed it ... reading the article. It is written .. beautifully. Like a man .... with a strong word, but to the point .... I join all .... congratulations to the author.

    "For the first time, Ukraine has successfully carried out in association with the EU that scandalous hysterical blackmailer's trick, which has worked dozens, hundreds, if not thousands of times in relations with Russia."

    The United States succeeded in imposing Ukraine on the EU ... but this is only the beginning of an early EU-Ukraine showdown, in which the United States will support Ukraine to weaken the EU. Europe will soon face difficult times ...